Some here at George Floyd Square, which is the intersection and South Minneapolis, where George Point was killed by their children and when the verdict was read, you know people, but there are, in the air they they celebrated data. Yell days, many people cried I was just kind of a scene of humanity. People are sending George for his name now. It is just really a feeling of in one way jubilation out here and then another stands out flatteringly from people from new times unworkable borrow. This is a daily,

Today there are children, is found guilty of murder in the death of George Floyd. My colleague John Elegant covered the trial, the verdict and The action in Minneapolis It's Wednesday April, twenty first John describe what happened on Tuesday at this warehouse in downtown Minneapolis set the scene there so Tuesday morning, it's the first full day that the jury's liberating and theirs

western and undisclosed location. So no one knows where they are, but the court officials and so we are just left to wait in also gets a news. Do you have any questions? Is there in our deliberations going like we're just kind of waiting right and then Out of nowhere it to twenty eight p m. I get an email in my inbox and it says, quotes a verdict has been reached. And will be read in open court between three thirty and four p m Tuesday April twentieth, and at that moment it's like all systems. Go right, you know we ve been through three weeks of testimony. Three rethink dirty selection before that and now we ve got to tell

hours of deliberations- and here we were like about eleven months after joyfully- died whereabouts. Here, the fate of their children and at four p m, the judge walks in everyone is told, arise or over the jury and assist Kendra QUIET in the courtroom. we visited the jury, I understand you every now and then he sat Threed stated Minnesota County of Helpin does as he's reading the cat These are in close and our children's eyes he's wearing a mast, so you can really seas are his eyes and we can see them shifting waken from left to right. It's like he was shifting them from looking up at the door. So looking over the jury enormously over the judge. Looking over the jury wasn't movies, had it all just his eyes and that same shifting kept on happening as the judge red each fervent so count

We the jury in the above entitle matter as count one unintentional. gonna be murder while committing a felony bind the defendant guilty guilty agreed to this twenty January, count to to We, the the above Intel Matter as count too third degree murderer perpetrating an eminently dangers. Act find the defendant guilty is guilty. Do this twentieth count three anyone same caption verdict com three. We the during the above, entail matter. It count. Three secondary, manslaughter culpable negligence, creating an unreasonable risk, find the defendant guilty verdict. Galaxy to this twentieth day of April to adapt ministers were there is really no expression. I shoulda space that you could see four person. It's us his eyes, still show Members of the jury, I'm not going to ask you individually if these are to your true cried verdicts, respond, yes or no, and at that point the judgment does are all call for Easter asking each stir if that was indeed their verdict during number two. Are these your true incorrect verdicts?

Geronimo Niner these you're drunk drivers, yet journal Nineteen are these. Your true incorrect verdicts number? Twenty seven? Are these your drawing correct verdicts all twelve of them agree? Then he asked them all one file, together. The leaders of the EU also that you all, and at that point the judge thanks them and then we're back looking at their children, is completely expression, ass bills, revolt, bond is discharged and the definitive remanded in custody they happen. County sheriff did the judge instructs the deputies to taken into custody. Children just gets apparent. Not so the judge like ok, puts his hands behind his back gets hand. asked, ordered exchange. The brief word with his lawyer and then he's taken away through the back and the door was closed.

You dont for those who may not know exactly what the three charges Bitch Oven was found guilty of mean. Can you translate them secondary, murder, third degree, murder and second degree manslaughter essentially, the second degree murder, which is the most serious charge he faced? That was alleging that in the commission of a felony crime, Derek Chauvelin caused the death of George Floyd, and in this case the felony crime was assaults and whether or not he intended to that assault resulted in George for its death now. The second account that he was facing with third degree murder, and basically, what that says is again. It was not that he intended to kill George Floyd, but that he acted with reckless disregard for human life.

And in those actions of reckless disregard he caused the death of George Floyd and the final charge was manslaughter. That was the least serious charge. What that charge says is that their children created an unreasonable risk and consciously took a chance of causing death or great bodily harm to George Floyd and the waves written in Minnesota lie the caller culpable negligence and again. That is not that he had to intend to kill George Floyd, but that he took out Their ordinary unreasonably prudent person would see, could cause death or injury to George Floyd, So now we have a verdict. I want to talk about the arguments during the time But in retrospect appeared, have led the estuary to a unanimous declaration of guilt on three counts, and I wonder if we should start with the prosecution which prosecution argument and which prosecution witness seemed to land the hardest.

In all my life. I wouldn't say that there is any one single witness who landed artist. I think the strength of the prosecutions case is it really had this cumulative effect. Where love here was that no force should use police officer ass, a policeman sir. I saw no reason why the officers felt they were in danger, including the police chief, to continue to apply that level. Force and said this is not what we do is policing that in no way she perform as anything that tab is by policy is not part of our training and it is certainly not part of our ethics are values. There was medical experts from medical experts. Mr Floyd die from a low level of oxygen poem and arduous cardiologist, medical examiner, Mister Lloyd, died from position asphyxia, which is a fan

way of saying he died because he had no oxygen left in his body. All of whom said that Shoguns actions deprived George Void of oxygen right, and then you had the emotional witnesses. Those people who provide a really the conscience of the world, really rights. They stood there and they describe how traumatized heartbreaking desperately. They want to stop Derek shoulder from doing what he did with one minute I mean it. I can't help but remember Charles Macmillan was a sixty one year old man who was it passing by the area that day and stop, because he saw the police arresting someone you just being nosey. He said I can feel helpless,

I'll, have a mobile either pledges that sort of emotion. I think, with something that the defence had no answer for. When speaking of the defence, how should we think about its art? when and why. Ultimately, they fell shore, what arguments and what witnesses seem to typify its failure The defence clear we had an appeal battle here, given all the outrage around this case, but I think when you look at the witnesses they brought forth and the arguments they try to lay down It was just a very hard against the cumulative weight of all that the prosecution presented. I mean since they had a policing expert. Mr Brok, very broad in terms of the use of force. What relevance this possible drug influence have has

quite a large impact, in my opinion, also well, because people leaflets drugs may not be hearing what you're trying to ask him to do. They may not understand they may have. total NATO feel pain. He tried to suggest that it not we did George for not really feel pain, person led to have their lace controlled and this situation they do, but he also said that their actual reaction- could have used or should have used more force than he did, that what a situation where they were justified in the maximum restraint and chose not to. No in, and then these were things that I think to the ordinary listener. Seen just preposterous right. Thank you, your honor. The difference calls Doktor David, follow

and then they also brought on a medical examiner, dot flower. So in this case, can you just going to describe the layers of factors that led you to your conclusion that this was a sudden cardiac? Yes, and he tried to kind of throw them to think in terms of the causes of death of George. For so we have hardly vulnerable, because it's too big and it was there was an- is his heart problems. There are certain drugs that are present any system. It was the drugs in a system. There is another drug fictional which slows down reading. It was all these things. step four Derek shoving kneeling on how many yet she said he would rule the death undetermined. An even better One thing we then we ve got a carbon monoxide which has the potential to rob some of that additional oxygen carrying capacity. Maybe because George points face was right by the tail pipe. ass of a police car that he may have been poisoned by the carbon monoxide coming out of their. How do you know that

was even then the prosecution got up and very effectively kind of just shot down his testimony It is a question I specifically asked and then made an observation of water dripping from what appears to be a tale, but he had no answer that he didn't know if the car was ass. Yet he had no test. Results show that there was any sort of carbon monoxide you didn't see any information that data from anybody who says I either turned the car on or I'm the one who turned it off. You didn't see the one did Kurt. What the defence really had to do was create some sort of doubt in the jurors Fines that Derek Chauvelin with significant cause of George fully death, and they were not able to get there at all. They were not able to chip away or poles in the very robust prosecution case that said that their children was at fault for joyfully death. Would talking about arguments and strategies here, but on some level it feels like the entire trial seem to be

hand in the nine minute video that everyone in the world watched back in May of twenty twenty, and is it fair we say that that video, as ever since in this trial was we insurmountable for the defense. I would say that in, in a very real way that, yes, I mean they're offence kept trying to make the point later. It's about the nine minutes and twenty nine seconds, the Derek chauvinist Android Floyd's neck. It was about the sixteen minutes in fifty nine seconds that way You did that from the time Derek children arrived on the scene for a time he took towards full downs of payments. They were saying you know you to tell you that that was the main theme of the defence. But, let's very unlikely tat was a horrific video like police officers, police chiefs and other departments. When this happened were saying that that's not policing so that

radio, that there was really no overcoming that, and there was really no explanation as to why he felt the need to stay on your neck even after he went completely limp and completely She was right. I mean in the closing arguments the prosecution said to the jury believe your eyes believe. What you're seeing in this video- and it sounds like the defence just couldn't get jurists to look. from that video and couldn't were, but what they were seeing in that video. Precisely it's a hard thing: Tansy, once you ve seen it

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My colleagues to New York Times reporters to get their expertise on the news but we also want to explore the human side of the news and so another part of my job is talking to people about how they are experiencing what's happening in the world that can mean walking to people on the street, making cold cause its many months making sure we represent all sides of restoring whether it's about what shapes What of identity is or how a copy, with crises. We always like there's something to learn from these conversations. We did you ever listeners that these types of stories are what makes the daily special and we want it. he bringing them to you. We can't that without subscriber support, if you haven't I have to the New York Times you can do that at an Mai times, dot com, Slash subscribed and thanks. John with the trial over and with Chauvelin found guilty, I want to explore the reaction to this, you were in the public square that has been named after toward Floyd in Minneapolis as the verdict

was red. Can you describe the converse? that you had with people there. You know the first thing I did when I got there. Even before going out into the crowd, I went into cop foods, which was the store where George Floyd was shopping, she's right before he was killed since the place where he was alleged to have spent a faint twenty are built. I got the police call back right and I ran into the sky Billy. Who is one of the cornerstones it with his brothers, he's kind like this burly guy, with a single big beard and and is his fingers clasp, and he keeps the toiling his thumbs. You know he's he's ITALY's very nervously. we're closing hand like we're getting out of here. It's not safe, and he was just very worried about being around because, as we were in a store at first, there was maybe couple dozen people outside of that. Most report is a first and then, as you know, a pink closer and closer to four o clock when the verdict was supposed to be read

ruins like hundreds of people and Billy just words and get out you aren't. They had nothing to do with that. So that to me was just really a sign of how anxious people were, and then the verdicts ran. I see people start sharing and people are pumping their fists awaiting black eyes matter flies. Some people are hugging and we're going up to one woman? Jenny Henry and she does had tears coming off falling onto her her black face mass that she was wearing I can a very full agenda because I live obviously. I therefore believe that this problem will be.

That's right: it's been our eleven months and years Then there was a man named dj and I I kind of caught sight of him because he had one fixed in the air in these kind of just pumping the fist head down kind of shaking in tears coming out of his eyes again, more woman was fanny behind and rubbing his back, and he said it's a new day The right way everybody saw was still said about taking. You know, turn around me two days everybody sought to those half done I was I was really worried. I was worried about my city. They must city will Wilma.

now. This is this. Is a new day is something beautiful. This is this is some. This is finally some little peace justice, and so it was. It was this moment where I think he saw the fabric of America just shift that very tiny bit America's tolerance for dead black people. Has usually been pretty high Hopefully it all? It it'll actually start to resume more now than we are actually people. Thank you, someone vision and then Michael actually saw familiar face this young woman in Incubi for White Metz last year, when I was doing some reporting and She'd been out. A joint square, continuous almost every take over the past. Eleven are so much

those of us who have been both underground day in and day out here on thirty eight in Chicago within here, almost three hundred and sixty five days in order to give Us- and this had been the culmination of a long activist struggle to hold specifically Derek children, but more broadly, the system accountable, and so I really since not only a sense of lake happiness in her voice, but a sense of like resolve like this is the beginning of something better. I mean you got people that are actually stepped up, proper briefing that I like. No, this is improper. This isn't right and they need to be held accountable.

we have community members, black white asian round, yellow green, whatever holding people accountable in ways that you ve never seen them do before. This is about accountability. This is about everybody. Stepping up at you see, recording that is the biggest weapon we have right now. Is our phones pull them out and speak on? It speak up for that person s land on about speed up and a person is the oppression. That's happened to speak up, for the partners means land across to the front of the vehicles. That's your job as that's bystander as us, immunity member. She talked about everyone having a cell phones, Alan, more people, stepping up and in making sure that they use those tools that they have. to ensure that police cannot get away with these types of things again we're not asking anymore were demanding what we deserve. What we owe all, I can say, Eagle

Monarchy in now, and we will continue to say everything what our whole tat. We have to have two John from the start that key text of this trial was years and years and years of police killings of black Americans, and so even the jury. In this case- and we ve talked about this with you- was instructed to render a verdict on Derek Chauvelin right and not anybody else, not a whole world of policing disk he's was always going to be seen. It feels like by the rest of the country as a verdict on policing and accountability for policing, It sounds like the people you are talking to were seeing it that way.

And that their relief, resolve their hope. It was in the context of that broader question of policing. Absolutely because think about the scenario. If he was not found guilty, then what does that say about what police are allowed to do so for many people? Yes, there are children, should be the council as a measure of justice for George Floyd, that was all the sea on a lot of people's minds. But beyond that, what's gonna happen. The next time a police officer encounters a black, man for some sort of minor violation right? What's gonna, be those actions next, so I think there's a legacy here that is very important. many Americans and is a precedent that needs to be said that police officers cannot just act with impunity and especially in a case like this, where you had almost

ten minutes of an officer just completely ignoring the life of someone beneath his knee. having from many Americans ally has to be drawn somewhere. And accountability needs to be had so that in the future, things can actually be different, Jumpy Sonia reporting. Do you think that this case actually does have any bearing on the next trial of a police officer who kills a black american animals. Cannot because there were several aspects about this case that feel unique right there was no split second decision making here it wasn't a case of a copying afraid of being shot that just wasn't actor here, so all the familiar police offences fell away, but that might not be. case in the next trial of a police officer. He, I think it's really hard.

Honestly, because, on the one hand, as you mentioned, this case is particularly in Greek straight, so I think tat egregious of this man, This situation, where it might be easier to find people who are willing to convict, were willing to say no what the police, or should it was wrong. But on the other hand, I think the fact that was sold reaches. Somebody's opened the world's eyes to the fact that police officers sometimes can act in a very depraved, an egregious way right for those who may have doubted that communities that is affected by that time whom I doubt it. This was a their chance to see it in a very stark way. So in that sense, I think in the future may be juries. Maybe people who come from me that are not over police like that, that are not police in that way,

maybe they'll think twice before, just believing that the cop I did intentions right away or just believing that the victim was someone who is doing wrong and then undeserved what they thought using. building police accountable and never will these two holding, perhaps more police again exactly this cases, all about accounting with you, I'm curious how you yourself as somebody who covered the aftermath of George White South, their protest movement, it created the trial and now the verdict, our thing, being about the meaning of this case, what it means and what it doesn't mean. I think that this case. Really in many ways opens the eyes of a lot of people. To a reality, the police are all too often killing black and brown people in America. I mean we can't even get through the three weeks of the chosen trial with

a police officer, killing someone somewhere in America every single day, every single day. Every day, someone in America died at the hands of police.

I think it in a very stark way. This case hopes underscore the sometimes egregious manner in which police interacts with the communities that they are meant to serve and that sometimes police officers will look at people who are accused of very minor things who come from particular communities who look a certain way. They will treat them without the same respects and humanity that you would think would be afforded to any human being, and then I guess the other take away for me is that when people speak up like it can really have an impact when WMD teams and envy teams decide not to play.

That gets people in power to listen and to try to effect change. We ve seen how government officials now talk about these issues. We ve seen the governor here Minnesota talk about systemic racism. Talk about the of humanity that is often shown the black people. We see police departments in cities having to dress how their policing is done. and how much funding they need to do that. These are all changes that happen, because in this case people saw something that horrified them and they spoke up and they push for change. So I think this case really helps to show the power that people can have when they see something wrong and they demand and push for something to change.

Thank you, John knew pursue time. Thank you. shortly after the verdict, members of George Floyd's family held a news conference in Minneapolis,

I would like to thank the jury mean every bad, thank God as they got a mighty. Thank you and you know what people we not done yet I'm a political fight every day, because I'm not just by four George anymore, I'm fine everybody around the world we know will never get charged and this at a time when we are fighting and we're going to continue to fight, because we all individually and together family had a conversation that if we could have been Why? George, on that day, there probably would have been more than one day how many jobs as great a brief outta my grandmother, Mama stage you got to see this is to remain we have a great I'm grateful my brothers. I am place one product

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