In the upcoming final season of the good fight, chicago attorney and women's rights champion diane, lock heart is battling disorienting case of political deja vu as tensions Diana team, must fight to maintain peace in the centre of a brewing civil war happening in and out of the office dogmas. christine Baranski and Audra Mcdonald and the final season streaming september, eighth exclusively on paramount plus had a paramount stockholm to try it free, hey, it's michael This morning on the daily I mentioned that our guest poet, The porter stead herndon is watching a show dedicated to the mid term elections that shit, the one up on it. Splore. Both the forces at play in this election how it is that we ve arrived at such a fraught moment in our politics And listen to the first episode. Hmm.

Hello hi. My name's instead Herndon I'm a politics reporter in new york times and hosting a new politics podcast from the times I'm looking for Belinda. Is this her? It is Thank you for picking up, and we are hoping You had maybe five ten minutes today for us to ask a few questions about how europe about. Politics are now endeavour court. That is that something you think we could do. Duenna How can it be better reported the new york times twenty eighteen. I worked at the boston well before that, What what area are you in? I write about politics, so I was on the election trail last cycle covering the presidential election Okay and recorded for what purpose would be real Wade later are what general problem we are talking to a lot of different types of voters.

That some of our listeners get a sense of how people across the country are feeling Ok, we can try it. I dont raid the times its way to low profile. For me, I'm not expect in a whole lot from this conversation, but give it a shot. Ok we are everyday. I won't we're atrocity after china when ordinary well. How does it has passed through that a cardinal as been preparing to cover the twenty twenty two meters thinking back to yours, I'm walking up to this house,

when I was out in the field covering the presidential election, we see some trump signs. It was donald, trump's, america, more trump side and Joe Biden's whole campaign was built around getting trump out of office and unifying the country. He said he wanted to restore the soul of the nation. Do you think that fighting becoming president will lead to more the you can't force people into orbit about all this talk about healing and stuff? But the question you know we're not as unifying decide was whether that was even possible when I hear like that costs by them, Were you I'm thinking like okay, but whether this damn spurn justice? That data.

before we can get there in the past will consequently horrid things that have happened here or whether Biden was trying to go back to a time that no longer exists in orbit and says that he'll be a present for you than to listen to you that it was to bring people together when you hear that what do you think about living? Oh yeah, let's all come together. You have not learned it. I pledge to be a president who seeks not to divide, unify who doesn't see states lose dates, always sees the united states still Biden, one, the white house, I saw this office to restore the sole america. you double down on that promise? The worker making that vision is real.

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but, let's be honest, the sixty five percent of americans say they are concerned about how things are going in the? U S, the soul of the nation is far from restore the seventy two percent of respondents believe america is headed in the wrong direction. He had the devil in them and they're all going to burn in hell by the stand between the shooter, our kids, the eighty five percent of americans say they are dissatisfied with how things are going regardless of political party. The.

Hello? Is this bishop myers? This is then stat from the new york times. Hello. Are you I'm doing well. How are you well? Thank you. it's good to hear you too, it's been a couple of years now in the to this year's election wants to ban them. Is change in the way that you view politics, if any from two years ago, to now I get the one thing that perhaps bothered me is the third gardening up at relevant lost faith in that and in a lot of the political. Ah, about last then the people, but I'm finding. When I talk to people all across the country going homeless and politics is, do you know it seemed like a is in place for anybody to be? I know that there is a new level of pollution.

Will disconnect the political homelessness. That's exactly how I feel a lot of people feel like everything is getting too extreme, but it's like the land of no more moderate and at this time stands well beyond political party, I definitely do not think that the election was stolen by understand why the writers, on January six were upset beyond even Joe Biden and donald trump can understand the prestige in and the help with this and the need to involve just because the system is not working for them. It's about the political system as a whole. The voting system is now secure and I'm having doubts as to whether or not it will make a difference above, but it all people don't feel divided have very low hope for the future of the country there, A deep sense of anxiety is nothing in it here really gives me hope in Austria,

hard to have hope in politics when the news is go bad council formations like that which I can go to another country back again and the thing is there's a reason: people feel this way. it has been a relentlessly disorienting time with demographic shifts that are increasingly changing the countries make up so movements that have cultural norms, overnight the explosion of new technology and misinformation. That's amplified our divisions ad you that a global pandemic widespread. Inequality and rampage inflation. And through all of this The political system, has struggled to keep up. to the point where we now have a congress that drifting further apart on

most urgent issues very few swing districts, even up for grabs Because of how election maps have been redrawn, state houses, and become far more extreme than public opinion. On issues like abortion and guns, I think a third of them because they re now is very shaky, and so much change happening in the supreme court outside the voters control, I'm worried, Democracy is being eroded. Our democratic system is under direct threat by nationalist and authoritarian group for Britain, democracy more fragile than I will so I can see why some people feel like the point of an election williams- I er democratic experiment, just my crumble, and was not. He was not elected if it has already poor man he's just three was not a lot.

Did. This is wrong. I feel like I'm, lebanon, a banana republic. If you can look ahead, the kind of to politics and where the country is headed the direction of the country? What do you think you're guesses word understood? I mean Whatever this country is supposed to mean. It never represented it don't represent. this country. The idea about the people, but here's what I think all. These things that are making people feel so disconnected they actually may amid terms more important than ever. We I guess Seventy six days away from the mid term elections that will determine which party controls congress next year, because if republicans take back,

the house I have internet is articles. I'm impeachment page job and political divisions in washington will only escalate and I'll say this if The prosecution of donald trump mishandling classified information, they'll, be riots in the streets and with the supreme courts in the issues back to the states. Twenty twenty two fall election will now be a referendum on abortion right candidate who ran on the false claim that the What did twenty election was stolen, one primaries up and down the ballot huge decisions about bullshit in voting rights. Our key,

it literally on the ballot tonight concerns and frustrations over the integrity of our local elections. Republicans have a slight two point edge when it comes to which party voters want to control congress. A new polling shows a swing back toward democratic candidates, ahead of november's midterm elections in places like pennsylvania, doug, moss triano, who did marched to the capitol on january sixth, is going to be the projected winner of that republican primary for governor in Michigan. It's going to be an epic battle between a conservative business, woman, a mother and a far left burning parent and career politician in arizona, and finally, this is the first big test after january. Sixth, in the trump presidency,

of where americans want the country to go. Seventy five percent of Democrats say they want someone besides President Biden to be the democratic nominee and twenty twenty four and who they trust to lead them there and a former president donald trump, still the most favoured person for a potential. Twenty twenty for president governor RON Desantis continues to raise his profile as the possible glp front runner for two thousand and twenty. So what I'm trying to figure out when I'm talking to voters political power players, nadeau carbon high, congressman cliburn? Thank you so much kellyanne conway! Thank you. So much for your time. I gave me a lot of it cannot be too snarky and barking, and my colleagues at the time I'm maggie haberman and I cover politics, I'm lisa lair and I cover campaigns, alarm, shane, goldmacher, ama, national political porcelain, I'm jenny Medina and I'm in national politics for primary to Epstein, and I cover campaigns. I might king and I cover se politics with the gurney and I have been covering national politics on and off since the one that gets them more than just who's going to win in november. I want to ask some uncomfortable questions like how did we get here? How deep do these fractures go and then the? How strong is our commitment to democracy really from the new york times? I must that herndon welcome to the run up.

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