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The Debate Over Critical Race Theory

2021-07-02 | 🔗

In Loudoun County, Va., a fierce debate has been raging for months inside normally sleepy school board meetings.

At the heart of this anger is critical race theory, a once obscure academic framework for understanding racism in the United States.

How, exactly, did critical race theory enter American public life, and what does this debate look like on the ground?

Guest: Trip Gabriel, a national correspondent for The New York Times. 

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From the New York Times. I'm likeable bar is today the intensifying national battle over We are always hearing. I spoke with my colleague trip Gabriel about how or once obscure academic concept became a pull cool rallying cry and is now at the heart of a man workers. We shoulda, plus the indictment of the Trump Organization, it's Friday July. Second, trip tell me about these school board meetings that you ve, been watching shore
more board meetings tend to be very sleepy hours, long affairs and most Americans school districts in a loud and county which, in the suburbs of Northern Virginia the score, it means in the last few months have been fiery and incendiary affairs. Our campaign against anyone in everyone who attempts to indoctrinate my children into the most racist of racist ideas and the words they thrown out of men. Accusing the school district of practicing racism and accusing the school district of realising their children for being white. They will do everything I possibly can to fight to the bitter end. It till you proved to me that you are not teaching my children that they are racist just because there why accusing the school district of being woke now teaching trimming our children to be social justice warrior and our country and our history held captive too far left and even communist and marxist ideas
This is indeed an american version of the Chinese Cultural Revolution. The critical raise theory has its roots in culture boxes. It should have no place now school and watch driven. This Michael is the issue of critical race theory, which has injected into this school district in the suburbs and in a very impassioned way. Lately Each of what exactly is. Critical ways: theory, it seems to have arrived with tremendous force and our national discourse, but without much of definition or an origin story. How simply put critical Aris theory is a lens framework for examining how systemic racism is. What went into american law and institutions and how those systems perpetuate an uneven playing field for people
Color and weird, is the theory come from what its backstory it originated in the nineties, and he's in the nineteen eighties in law, schools and was associated originally with Derek bail professor at Harvard LAW school. When I went the law, school resistance was that well with discrimination based in not being condemned by the Supreme Court it was all of all. We end veils thinking behind what eventually became identified as critical race theory came out of the civil rights movement. He and other academics we're looking at cases like Brown, verses, board of Education and the historic laws that passed in the sixties, about voting rights, about fair housing, about civil rights in general, and they were asking themselves. Why had that not instantly created a fair and equal society of United States and will now we see that that was wrong, that that was far far too optimistic, and it seems to me that that
Tourism is a permanent part of emergency and the concept was put forth that racism is not just an individual prejudice. The black Americans may experience on a daily basis, but that racism can be baked into institutions that can be structural. Systemic. And so how does this pretty high level theory trip leap out of the academic world, and into the national vocabulary. It was pretty obscure in graduate school for decades. But one of the earliest moment when it surfaced in public life, was in the early nineties, nineties, I am raising this is today with ride gumbo, Catherine Courage
Good Morning. Welcome today on a busy Friday morning, you note, our top story is wanting, but here is nor washed. Newsroom will be talking with when President Bill Clinton nominated law- professor name Lenny one year to the Department of Justice and she had been associated with the ideas behind critical race theory. Fairness requires that we identify the racial cleavage. Is that exist in our society in order to remedy them so begins vigorously attacked, and many Democrats felt that our views on how racism affects our democracy would actually make very politically risky candidate claiming veneer writings lend themselves to views that he could not embrace the president cut her loose rather than fighting device of Babylon Capitol Hill and President Clinton actually ended up withdrawing her nomination, so pretty early on theirs a sense among the political class and especially the
on the right that this is a taboo concept. Scene is kind of out of balance out of mainstream password, and when does it next large. So, as we all know, last year the country underwent a profound racial reckoning after the murder of George Floyd by police, and is part of that reckoning. Some companies in government agencies increased there efforts to raise awareness of implicit bias, they sent employees to diversity, trainings box like white fragility and how to be an anti racist became best sellers, but these anti biased, trainings and books and efforts to have more frank discussions about races
in America also provoked a degree of anger and a backlash among conservatives and at this point that critical race fury became a rallying cry which traces really to a single conservative activists named Chris Rueful, who was given a megaphone by Fox NEWS. and who is Chris Revolt. Rueful who lives in Seattle area is a former filmmaker who became an activist writing for fairly obscure conservative publications and last room again publishing reports about diversity, trainings in workplaces, in schools, for example. He reported that the city of Seattle had enough and White, the city employees, to a training programme that urged white workers to examine their quote complicity in the system of white supremacy. He went
to report on diversity seminars in the: U S, Treasury, department and other federal agencies in recent years and at a certain point in early September. It's only vast Chris roof. A walk is through some of what is happening here. You should know the details. Tucker Karlsson invited Chris Truffaut to appear on. It is Fox Lucia. She noted Tucker this there's something I've been investigating for the last six months and it's absolutely astonishing how critical race theory has pervaded every institution in the federal air, refill, claim that these diversity trains were driven by critical re security of millions of euros of tougher crossing show that may have been a very
This time made actually heard the term conservatives need the wake up, that this is an existential threat to the United States and a beer. What is Chris Rueful Saying is the problem with these trainings and with this concept of critical race theory, I broke the story on the Treasury department, which held a seminar earlier this year from a man named Howard Ross, and he told Treasury employees essentially that America was a fundamentally a white supremacist country, and I keep saying that the intent of critical Aris theory is to inculcate a collective guilt among white people that they are responsible for the unequal outcomes and american society and asking white employees to accept their white privilege except their white racial superiority and accept essentially, all of the baggage that comes with this reducible essence of whiteness and the way people are being pressured.
Two only in this field, through these trains in corporate settings and in some cases in school settings. So in his telling critical race theory is something that is inflicted upon White America in a way that could shame, guilt, discomfort and that's his problem with a correct and beyond those complaining about Category Syria on Fox Rueful came prepared to the interview with Tucker Karlsson, to make a direct appeal to President Trump, the president at the White House, it's within their authority and power to immediately issue an executive order. Abolishing critic race theory training from the federal government. He called on president trunk to issue an executive order that it's something that he's denounced this kind of black lives matter, a NEO marxist rhetoric, but it's time to take action and destroy it within his own administration and to what happens it turned out. Donald Trump did see episode on Fox NEWS
critical race theory and the crusade against american history is toxic propaganda, ideological poison that if not removed will dissolve the civic Banstead tyres together. and a few weeks after that date, Why I recently banned trainings in this prejudice ideology from the federal government and demanded in the strongest manner possible present trumped, find an executive order, curtailing diversity, training in the government executive order? trains. There was suggests that an individual by virtue of his or her race or sex, bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race for sex
But I am also pleased to announce that I was soon sign and executive orders from also announced by the commission, which was to create a curriculum of so called patriotic education for american schools. One that we reject the idea of systemic racism. And U S history, it will be called the seventeen. Seventy six coming a Michael? This was pointedly a response to the one thousand six hundred and nineteen project that colleagues of ours of the New York Times it published in twenty nineteen. on the four hundredth anniversary of the arrival of the first enslaved people to America right, and that was an effort to re. Imagine the sweep of american history through the lens of anti black discrimination, and it became overnight controversy.
Or with conservatives, and so what is the result of these efforts that Trump put forth to curtail critical race we at the federal level, almost nothing, I'm an unpleasant binds first day and office. He resented the executive order and he cancelled these seventeen? Seventy six commission, but at that point the cat was out of the bag critical raised theoretical raced. They were critical race theory says every white It is a race that are being used as a way of re, examining a pass critics who argued is being used as a tool to accentuate a cultural divide with several states and localities. Moving to ban grace through from curriculums categories. Theory had escaped into the concern the media and Fox NEWS has aired in the last several months, literally hundreds of segments, critical of critical race theory. It's been picked up by Republicans in state legislatures around the country we have introduced.
or to limit our ban critical race theories, influenced primarily in schools, and Interestingly alive, a language in those bills echoes the language. it was in Donald Trump, original executive order about credit, grace theory, chip is everything did you're describing here, but Chris Roofer is saying on fire but the Fox holster saying what President Trump is articulating in his executive order and what these stay lawmakers are putting in these bills is what they are all talking about, actual the critical race theory. Are they representing this in an accurate way, not in any sense that the academics who initiated and studied critic grocery would likely recognised? But that's beside the point, critical race theory has been turned into a political cudgel,
by the right and the first person to admit that is Chris Roof. Oh, this is a tweet that he wrote in March. He said we have successfully frozen their brand critical erase theory into the public conversation and are steadily driving a negative perceptions. We will eventually turn it toxic, as we put all of the various cultural insanities under that brand category end quote, and more and more people across the country, particularly pair I have been speaking out to denounce it in a kind of reminds me of the tea party a decade ago. These grass roots The reins of conservatives furious about the federal government and were seen that at the local level, in a place like Loudon County were school board meetings have, become venues for enormous hangar. It's not a big government but it's a critical raced Eric
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Some are baseless and mean, but some of maybe think differently or helped me understand other both points of view that, with the argument is about each week on the show you'll hear people who disagree with each other respects all civil debate that gets Hind. The big news stories and beyond party lives like powder reform, policing in America. Whether wish the student Dan raise the minimum wage or kill the fella buster. You might not agree with everything you here and that's the point, you might even walk away some Europeans of your out. You can listen in Europe. That's the argument every Wednesday, wherever you're listening to the spot guest, much of what do we need to know about Loudon County Virginia to understand why this ban all the battle over a critical race he is playing out there who I'm county was just prime for this kind of confrontation, overcoat raise theory is a county,
Northern Virginia. That has experience enormous demographic change in the last decade or so tat but he's like Amazon's of come in and have attracted more college. Educated residents have attracted a much more diverse group of residents. Many work immigrants from abroad that has shifted the politics from county. They used to vote consistently for Republicans one that now votes consistently for Democrats that is shifted. The demographics of the school district from a majority white does school population to a population. That is
no longer majority white and as the school district has tried to reckon with some problems are came up as its population diversified, a backlash was generated by primarily white parents who perceived critical race theory as influencing and in changing the way school did business in in ways that they disapproved of and what was the trigger and latin county for that backlash. So in two thousand and nineteen, the School District Commission reports, which showed some real discrepancies in how students of color and white students were ferrying in the school district students of color discipline that a higher rate and why students, for example, black and brown students graduated with advanced diplomas, at a lower rate than white students and a consulting group,
amen and and held a series of focus groups and reported that minority students complained about the pervasive use of racial slurs and insults directed to students of color. So the school district looked at these issues and episodes not as isolated events but as systemic as they were part of a pattern caused by differences in how black and white students were treated and what is their response to that
illustrators adopted what they call they plan to combat systemic racism and calls for things like banning the wearing of confederate flag on students. Close the school just agreed to apologize for a history of having run in segregated schools, but the biggest change there was introduced is really training of teachers and how to be sensitive to students of different backgrounds and calls for things like mandatory teacher training, in quote systemic oppression and implicit bias. They called for teachers to develop quote a racial literacy, so as the school district roles out, these efforts to address racial issues in the district, a large group of parents, rejects it and says not having as the snow we want in our school district, ten, they form of groups on Facebook to push back against it. They attend rallies. He teacher in the end, the district speaks out and conservative media denouncing
mandatory trains as the kind of reverse racism? Ultimately, you know the school board meetings become extremely contentious with scores of parents showing up to voice their disapproval, and unhappiness today is to say June, twenty second, twenty twenty one, I'm calling to order the fourth Tuesday School Board meeting, my meaning for all those anger culminated in the last school. More me, of the year, they have said, shut up or get out to those who objects, their equity and inclusion. Efforts to utter and fifty people signed up to speak out about what they view is the influence of critical race theory belongs some other issues that have come up in the district and would have a critical parents saying at this meeting. their angry at what they perceive that their students are being pod. Why is active? Greening of our students allowed to take place that, under your watch, wise indoctrination allowed to take place under your wife,
While we talk about students been indoctrinated into a view of America and which white supremacy was built into the constitution and that american institutions perpetuate quality and racism. It average outcomes are different, racial routes are not equal does Elsie. Basically, this is the result of racial description it's. So your implementing the marks of the earthy ideology. Will you answer the question? The lot of you connected to Marxism or communism. The idea that we don't have a society of equal opportunity and that the solution to it has to be an equality of of outcome. This board has a dark history of suppressing freeze page. One man gave a very impassioned comments: your teaching children to hate others because of their skin color. I am disgusted by your bigotry
It also unruly there right after he spoke to the board, voted to curtail the public comments said to end them early. Madame chair, I moved hand public comment. Thank you. The motion carries nine zero public comment is now ended. We'll move to our next agenda item, but please spectators fuse to clear the room and one man was arrested for disorderly contact. Another was cited for trespassing, while the discord has become so angry that there's been an ongoing effort in the county to recall the majority of the school board members. And from what has been the response from the school board too.
is angry meetings to all this rancor. Do they talk at all about backing away from these plans to address social problems they found in the school system or they sticking with this plan? What's happening there stick into their guns. I do not believe I can let the disruption that occurred in our barn room. This evening go unanswered, said the last of school board. Meeting the board chair, Brenda Sheridan pushed back, but opponents of the school board, who are pushing false stories about critical race theory, has severely hurt our ability to do the jobs we were elected to do she described how frustrating and scary it was for board members who had received death threats. We recently saw K, K, K, fires in Fairfax are in school board. Members are receiving graphic threats, vague email and voice mail, and parents who support our work are afraid to speak up. She described critical race theory is complete distortion. What was
in place in the curriculum, men and administration of the school districts, and despite what the fearmongering media tells you know. Critical race theory is not being taught in our schools period, aiming to make our schools a political battleground will not silence the work for our students. We will not back down from fighting for the rights of our students and continuing our focus on equity, interbank, At this point is what's happening in Loudon Representative. happening around the rest of the country. Is it an outlier this point as it afore runner, but we expect to happen elsewhere in the coming months, so loud county is the most extreme are dramatic couple of how cooperation theory has become a flashpoint than a school board, but it's working
other examples of it around the country in school, born elections and in school board. Meetings, attacks and cooperates theory have become the pretty common. It's also filtered up into politics. More broadly, there's a Virginia governors raised this year in which critical race theory has become an issue of candidates, mean for United States Senate on republican side have introduced critical, raced areas as a key motivator to win primary races. It is a cultural war issue that the right has discovered a powerful motivator of its base electorate and I fully expect this is that will play a role in the in the mid term elections next year in all kinds of races, drivers they think about the history of this theory. but you have just told us and how this is all playing out right now. I am struck in away by just how much the critics of this theory
Or what they understand this theory to be our current, putting their cards on table and saying openly this concept and what it represents. Some us. It makes us uncomfortable. We Your what it means to be thinking about this in teaching in how it makes us feel how make our children feel, because a crew Cory's theory, whether it's been accurately portray here or not, they seem to be saying it's asking us to do something and that something is to give up certain visions of the United States and of themselves ups, that they have been taught for a really long time right. The United States is equal and fair and meritocratic, and they seem to be saying that is hard and we all want to do it Michael there's he genuine conflict
our country on. How do you understand the ideas? Systemic racism? Very few Americans would deny that slavery in the century of segregation and Jim Crow were shameful trappers in? U S history, but things get sticky when the concept of ethnic racism is introduced, and people feel that they are being asked to accept that America is raises two, the route and its institutions. So I think that's what's at the bottom of this is the sense that yes, do recognise that America has many dark chapters in its past, but we're not on board with the conclusion that America is inherently systematically racist, and that is people within that system. We all bear some collective responsibility for how it continues to create an unequal playing field for people of color so at its core. This is about whether a large group of Americans, a group, it is mostly weapon not just wait
can or should accept the idea that racism is not merely historical, not a relic, but something very presence. and systemic and something that everybody needs to take responsibility for. Yes, I think that's right. And they seem to be saying in this critique of categories theory seniority The answer is no that's right, but Europe as a country. And you document it is in the description of how loud and county changed more more Americans are accepting. That idea. And understanding that America's long held image of itself as fair as meritocratic as present day not systematically racist, is incomplete.
Or flawed, and that's what we solve this last year of protests and racial reckoning, so it feels like that discomfort and that backlash from somewhere Gains will presumably be a fact of life for quite some time so like President Biden recently went to Tulsa Oklahoma. Please have a seat sit down to mark the hundredth year after the tall
grace massacre in nineteen twenty one for much too long. History of what took place here was told in silence cloaked in darkness and in his speech there he talked about systemic racism, for what happened in Greece would was inactive hate domestic tears with the through lie that exists today still described the massacre of African Americans and tall sir as having been driven by a hatred, and that hate became embedded systematically systemically our laws and our culture, which the then said had influenced and continued to influence american institutions. We can't just choose to learn what we want to know, I'm not sure
and so to hear. The present United States express that idea and knowing he increasing number of Americans likely do all the same way about american history. If this concept makes another large group of Americans uncomfortable discomfort is not going to be fading away. That discomfort is going to be a defining element. Our social and political life for a very long time chip. Thank you very much repression. Thank you. Michael yeah
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