Hello, how are you buddy Yanks? Well, I wouldn't be reason. We just reported Lisbon. One is dropping out the presidential race, we're here in Boston outside of her house, not in Boston, actually, Cambridge waiting for her to speak a word of media, both local and national. I was here You got the job economy from the New York Times. This is the field, I must add, Herndon Massachusetts around one thirty on those their dinner Elizabeth warned

out of a side door of her house with her husband and her golden Retriever and addressed the media, I announced warning. I am my campaign for president. I stayed with a deep sense of gratitude. It's been two days and Super Tuesday, where Lisbeth warns best Finnish was in third place, including in their home state of Massachusetts, that put her behind her campaigns already lower expectations and made a gathering like today, though, almost inevitable for everything she thinks her supporters and her staff and takes question will be making an angel hanging out with those providing not today, not today, s based around the women

So why he has to drop out. I was told at the beginning of this undertaking that there are two like a progressive way that Bernie Sanders does the incumbent or ending moderate way that job argues the combat, for there is no room for anyone else in this I thought that was right, but evidently I was wrong and on the question of gender balance would be that the women and girls like white man, I know one of the hardest. Part of this is all those little girls. We're gonna have to wait for more, that's gonna, be she gets emotional. There are clearly things but she's left unsaid, but when you ask her supporters who have come to that

to watch this speech. They go there. So sad is serious. A sad I couldn't I couldn't move. I'm frustrated am disappointed and sad heart broken that the very clearly most qualified candidates. Is out of the race. Sadly, to many people in this country are ready for what president, which is an unfortunate thing, very disappointed, but I guess there's never gonna be a time for a woman, she's, my generation and I'm going to see it. This was our it's not gonna happen, maybe her generation are we gotta go look at this little girl, looking at the dark

Today, millions of voters across six states forecasts their ballot for the two viable democratic candidates left Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders. What began as a contest, but historic diversity, along ratio and gender lines has now come down to two men. DE plus both. Why and as someone who covered silver calmly Harris and Elizabeth Morn and with worn, especially who once led and National Poli, I'm left to wonder how do we get here? How did it end up this back

Fancy drew a rose, really look at it with your firm highways is that of all the good work Let me, then, what did you say your name? Instead s dead? Yes, so the next day me and producers asked the Mitchell and Jessica Charm go to North Andover. Massachusetts you don't have to meet with a pretty typical war and supporter Lynn, which were Adela only have one thought, One of her husbands is there to tell me where you were the water? We evolve regional and her cousin Kathleen. Let me take your clothes and we all sit down. Leaving her, but he did. I am a nervous, but I teach exercise now would do well to exercise

so I will, as usual class that's about the first office. Go back and then this and stretching and strength training. It's about an hour class at the seniors, enter and Lawrence. Also, how long have you been in Malta and over since nineteen forty nine, and when did you first notice sender, war. I noticed Senator Warren years ago. I think it was around twenty twelve. I happen to be reading the paper one morning, I noticed that a congressmen named Todd Aching head said a horrible thing about women and pregnancy. I'm saying that if a woman were to get pregnant as a result of rape, then her body has a way of getting rid of that. It seems to me first of all, from what I understand from doktor

that's really rare. If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down and my eyes just flew open, and I said, oh, my god, this man is in Congress. I was flabbergasted- and am I said to my husband, who is that woman there's there was only at the same time. I was not happy with Scott Brown, who was Alice editor at the time he D stand up for women's reproductive rights and economic security. He co sponsored legislation to let employers deny women coverage for birth control or even mammograms. He had too, and I said the woman that neuron against got Brown. I heard that a woman is gonna, I'm Elizabeth Warren, I'm running for the United States Senate and before you hear a bunch of ridiculous attack ads, I wanted HU. I am like a lot of you. I came up the hardware and I said I have to do something to help her get elected Washington's

oh really for the big eyes and that's gonna, I'm Elizabeth Warren- and I approve this message because I want Massachusetts families to have a level playing. The and so Lynn, becomes a volunteer for the warrants in Senate campaign. I was always on bored with Elizabeth right after that, why do you think you felt so drawn to those with whom they can? In many ways, shoes me she's p. She, as this feeling that I have she's actually very close to my age? She has a wonderful way of kind of looking into her. Heart and mind she's interested in you, she's interested in in the but why are you don't really nice

We always we're here for the Turkey will have one boy: don't you see like clearly answer Elizabeth has their heart and she's brilliant and despair? the odds you will work to the first woman senator to feel I mean she wins the race. Obviously, how did I feel? Oh, my god, it was so exciting. I still can't say that without trying It was so exciting, so then, and twenty sixteen I was for Hilary Dealers I was very invested in having Hilary be president. She had all the qualifications she had. She was more qualified than anybody was evident. President in my

billion, but because she was a woman, I knew it would be difficult, but I still thought she could win. Did you know people, or did you hear people say I will vote for Clinton because he's not like that, but here's what I did hear was talking to a woman who is kind of us, a stranger, but we were chatting and we were talking about politics and about how how we feel about certain things. So I guess it was like immigration, climate change and things like that in this woman was on board with all of the devil. Ideals- and then I mentioned, Hillary Clinton ensures that all I hate her and I said really because she's the one who stands for all of these things that we're talking about. No, no, I can't stand or I said well why? Why don't you like her up? I have no idea, I said: is it because she's an aggressive woman? Is she too aggressive?

She too loud issue express yourself too much and her reply was no. I don't know why. So like a minute. Later I mentioned Elizabeth warrants our constant her either the supper up. It's like she agrees with you about everything, all the things that you're saying you believe in she is promoting know. Well, Gus gender? So I know I mean I've. I've been woman, my whole life, so I know very well that that is the reason

even women will vote against women because they are women. There are people out there who have this idea that you're not trustworthy that IRAN, like you for some reason. What is that about, in your opinion, in a joy? Obviously I find a lot about it because some, I don't like to hear it, so I need to figure out what's behind it here, I am perhaps a more serious person. A more reserved person then is kind of in the public arena. These days is, I think, people then say. Well. She serious she's really Can I really like her, but what is the point at which it was sent to me? I don't understand. I mean I'd, understand that, because I've been pretty much the same person, my entire life, better or worse right. Clinton.

Losing made a difference? Clinton losing did make it harder for me to think that a woman could win so this year, when Elizabeth Worn announces that she's ready. When has mixed. I love that people were getting to know her all across the country. I I mean it's real in Highbury when I was wondering if there was ever a time in your life where somebody you really looked up to, maybe except you as much and how you down here on my mother and I very different views on how to build a future. She wanted me to marry well,

I would really tried ride, reaches didn't work. But I also know it was the right thing to do, and sometimes you just got to do what's right and it's fine, because I take care of you, First, it is giving a hug- and it was a pleasure for me to see that although I was a little bit worried in the wake of her third place finish an eye. One fourth place finish in New Hampshire Warren said my job is to persist, but persisting and winning are two very different. Things said Elizabeth worn. She came in fifth place in South Carolina. Senator Elizabeth Warren trailing enforced place, in Nevada. I think the biggest question that Elizabeth Warrant has to answer is: where does she win? Lynn voted earlier Massachusetts for Senator WAR, but in the day

leading up to super, choose their she's questioning her rope and wondering if she just the right thing. But I didn't feel. My didn't feel bad that I had already voted for her at all, because that Lena, like she said, vote with your heart and she was my heart Did you know, I know anyone personally in your life who were for worn and jumped ship? Yes, my cousin Kathleen Radio, yes, actually as soon as big a judge. Closure, backed Biden, and I was gonna, wait and see how it all kind of shook out a little bit. I voted for by and because we have to stop sanders in my opinion, but I would

Voted for war and because I voted for Hilary Ass Kathleen, thus talking Tom nods and raises its head there, you actually see solve all like I'm a room. I too did vote for by now. I love Elizabeth Worn and she would have made an extra. Airily, wonderful president, by the time ass uses those voting. If she looked more electable ass, she was a front runner you all with a stuck with it. Yeah you Basle recently did you see when she arrived she comes out and talks at our house. Did you see that I I was here in the living room? I was in my own living room listening to it watching and am I cried through the whole thing is heartbreaking? Do you ever someday? She said that

that stuck with you or may be caused you to like feel that emotion, we think was that you know how she talked about the pinkies, where that she does with the little kids The first time I met her words was way back when before she was elected senator for the first time. She was doing that with little girls that were there. What is the pinkies languishing? She's in the girls can be president. She gets right down to the level she gets right down to their eye level and talks to the girls like that, the races thou down to two guys after starting with such diverse. Your gender racial, although that, how does it feel for it to be down to two men when you had four in at the start, all of whom you liked. I know it's. Sick, isn't it

You know it was almost inevitable. I think people are paying not panicked, but I think that people are very very concerned that we have to be drunk, but why does the feeling need to be tromp then translate to map. So you're saying, I think a lot of people are scared. Adding a lot of people just wanna, be tramp, and that's why I came down here man? What is necessarily mail about those qualities because there is so

many people in the country now just would not vote for a woman like that woman that I was talking about before, and we really feel the need to prevail this time, especially so. The idea that a woman candidate is a risk because of other peoples or the country sexism. Yes, that's how I feel is a terrible thing to have to feel, but I do feel that way right now. I don't think it's always going to be like that, but I think it's the way it is right now Thank you. You can dusky now it's too bad where you're going why in Vermont, very because we are ski place right next to our daughter- and in law, in war in Vermont, and

his son. In law s parents live in Warren, Rhode, island, now it's my mother. View that sexism as well consumed Elizabeth Warring campaign, and certainly that's one- that's popular among her most die hard supporters, but I'm wondering is this the view inside her own campaign? Do they think that the barriers that gender placed on them were too big to overcome the distance between Washington in Wall Street,

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Do they tell us what's happening on the ground wherever they are, but they also give us the context that we need to understand it. If you like hearing from these, orders every day, which I know I do the work one thing that you can do to support them and the daily is to subscribe to the New York Times if you'd like to do that, go to and why times dot com slash subscribe the same day we met with land. We headed the Charlestown Neighbourhood of Boston to Elizabeth Warrens Campaign headquarters. It's kind of a go warehouse e building, nondescript

very on bran. There is a donkey doughnuts right across the street to meet with someone whose work for the warring campaign from the start, unchristian earthmen the communications director, fruitless between as communications director of Christians in charge of trying to best translate the candidate to the rest of the country, particularly through the media, and over the course of this campaign. We get to know each other pretty well. Now, there's a guy pain has ended. I'm wondering whether Christian will speak more candidly about what went wrong and about what role gender specifically played in the campaigns demise. Is there something different

about planning, communications and media for women partisans. Yes, I think that there can be more caution when you're working for a woman, because you're doing things through the lens of much more of how will

this be perceived, and I think I've been appreciation for the challenges of the Clinton presidential campaign. Probably now, then I did when I first started the lower. Ah, I think that the fact that there were stories when Elizabeth First ran there is an infamous one like the day she announced this December thirty first, two thousand eighteen would warn first announce her intentions to seek the presidency. Talking about, like, I think, was the like ability factor her verse, Hilary because there were two women who ran for president who on two white women who ran for president that had blonde hair. I mean I don't. I guess I am not quite sure what else warranted, necessarily the So when it becomes clear, is running for president, how how forefront of mind was gender- and,

need to define our on her own outside of Clinton or whenever term. I think, when you're running for president male female, you have to be yourself. So I would. I was always in what our team and her always wanted. Make sure is you are showing what you would hope is the truest version of yourself. One of the critique of the Clinton campaign fair enough was that many voters felt like they never really knew her authentic south, but there was a barrier between today in voter built up over all those years in the public eye. So Kristen entertain try to go in the opposite direction. To distinguish war. Both from Clinton, but also from everyone else

She runs out on stage she dances. She stays four hours per photos, so we just finished. God knows she is just like

compassionate and joyful person that I know behind the scenes was the person that was on a town hall stage or the like fighter that I've also seen behind the scenes. In that many people saw whether in the hearing, Roma, otherwise was the first moment debate stage. There is a vulnerability that comes with fat being a female candidate. First, being a male candidate, I always was thinking through the risks in because I just knew that the mistakes that using quotes because at on always think they were, but they were perceived isthmus. Eggs that female candidates make it's like a higher bar, but to her these risks were necessary components of running inauthentic campaign. Let's do the things that have now become like signatures of how were signatures of the campaign. It's like will.

She's running for president to say something in? Do something so start doing that twenty twenty demo Product presidential candidate lists with worn is leading the pack when it comes to policy proposals. So I've got point two million new housing units in America. That's all I've got a plan to put eight hundred billion new federal dollars kin to our public signals, so didn't learn down. I've got a plan for that and corrupt. She became known as the I have a plan for that candidate that I have a plan for the just kind of helping organically Time magazine put on the cover and that's kind of when it became more of a thing. I think it happened like Grassroots level before that people start talking about eggs were doing like Like all mean section of wise, I mean eleven exactly exactly and, by the end of last far it was horn, has crossed into front runner status

he's leading in some national poles, but this is also about the time. Then I noticed a shift in the race that the primary changed from a contest to ideas to one of just of obsession about, and when do you think that's true? I think the primary campaign has always been about who couldn't win. How does that impact the whip specifically, who are running. I do think I like sort of need, distanced in order to fully formulate, but I dont think there is any question that elect ability was viewed through a wines that probably heard the women candidates, because there was a pause section that after twenty sixteen, even though the female candidate got three million, more votes, is a woman, not electable n

She has said before publicly that she would hear that from people in the in the early states like I'm worried about who can be tromp, but I dont think all the sudden in October, it was like, let's make this primary about who's. Gonna be Donald Trump, lay back, that's what it's that's, what it's been, I would likely agree- certainly elect ability- has never been far from mind for most democratic values as more and more people tuned into the race, particularly around this time. I'm in the weight far it shifted. Its Tom policy ideas took a back seat to that elect ability, question

candidates who at most clearly articulated their path to victory, started to rise by Elisabeth WAR and started to follow. This coincided with rival candidates like people, the judge, enable club which are increasingly casting warns campaign. As out of touch with the mainstream Democratic Party and a real general election risk, and so to respond to that scrutiny. The worn campaign tries to reposition itself as a unity, today, someone who can actually bring our size together, there's some time during the kind of like unity. Candidate phase by did feel like it was different from the fight we at her

before. How do you square those two versions that we did see justice here I mean I think you can. Both unity doesn't mean not fighting. I never didn't think she was herself. Take us into like debate Pratt. For instance, like are you sitting there thinking? We have two package a candidate and they are concerned about how their she'll be proceed. If she attacks too much or attacks too little like how much is gender a concern ass? You are thinking about the big national combative moment. You know, I don't want to make a big statement saying it's easier for men to attack and my man. I do think that there are probably greater consequences

two of failed attack by a female minute failed attack by a male, because obviously she had a to b performance a couple to debates ago, where she, you know she was doing some level of contrasts with mere Bloomberg and others I'd like to talk about who were running against? billion era who calls women, fat, Broad's and horse lesbians. No, I'm not talking about Donald Trump. I'm talking about male Bloomberg. Democrats are not. She was really strong. She was tough in. She was dynamic. Democrats. Take a huge risk If we just substitute one arrogant billionaire for another, this country has worked. They were

on trusting with each other and I think over all it was agreed upon it. She did well in that exchange, but this came in the valor after two straight disappointing finishes and I were New Hampshire, then just I mean if we're just gonna take the vat I feel like. That is a reason to ask Why, then, and not previously, was it were you all in room saying, but we can't attack yet you know. One of these I remember from the second. This campaign started was the way that supporters were so eager to see her. You know cut down the violence in the burning and everyone else formulating get that pay off until the matter. Why? So? I am, I like kind, reject the premise of your question because I think fat

you can be both advocating for yourself and creating contrast in ways that are not all that don't always need to be how it happened in Nevada, Senator Warren. What did you think when Senator Sandra Centres told you a woman could not when the elections are just agreed? Bernie is my friend- and I am not here to try to fight with burning, but

As someone say in this, is what I heard frequently from reporters. Oh, you guys are doing subtle. Contrast, people don't get that people don't know that, like I don't. I don't necessarily agree with that. I think that you're always looking at the bar of how do we balance advocating for yourself in your ideas, verse, contrast staying with other people, you characterize worn as contrasting with the Bloomberg others might characterized that as she was attacking Limburger going after Bloomberg, and I wonder yeah I wonder if like in

Raw you're you're, choosing your words carefully, because you know that mail politicians are treated differently or characterize differently than female politicians. I very specifically used the word contrast, so you are correct that I was specifically choosing those words. That was your question. Yet, there is a prevailing view from war and supporters that gender was the foremost reason that she wasn't success. One this rice. Do you share that? You think that's a prevailing here that I just think I probably need more time to think about it, and I am not trying telling I answer your question, I think

tat. There were what she said yesterday around like there are basically two ideological. I think she called them poles. We could call them lanes, that's not necessarily gender Ized VAT is like an ideological reason and then I think elect ability. The idea of Elect ability was the other reason. Now the idea of Elect ability through the eyes of can a woman. When certainly that's gender, and I would add, bed, it wasn't just kennel woman when it was, can a non white or non male cattle.

When it seems that, for that last point it seems as if then, this kind of place to weave ended with a kind of two people were ninety logical poles. Both of them being you know, white males was that inevitable hymning? Maybe I don't know so hard to get people I think this is true. I mean being a malware reporter asking women about sexism like need people to you like, or were you thinking about this? Then

That's not really how Pisces work right like like does she say, contrast and not attack, because a sexism, maybe but it's so deeply pervasive, suddenly actively think about as you're doing it, and I think that makes sometimes the reporting challenge difficult, because you're asking these candidates like wasn't that success was not racist. Wasn't though, and this like- maybe I think

lot of challenges in the race and ideology was my name working useless. One fund raising his mind and sexism and gender pervades all of those things, and does it define all of those things forms all of those things is motorway to put it by like having done gender in this race. You know that is a trap question for everyone. I, if you stay young therewith sexism in this race, everyone says Weiner and say: no. There was no sexism about a brazilian women. Think Do you live on? I promise you,

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