From your times? I'm like all of this is a daily over the past few days. The deadliest violence in years has erupt it between Israel and Palestinians, intense brother, far from Gaza answer by what he s, rights, showing no sign of easing and how she waited by hundreds of missiles, streaking back and forth between Gaza and cities across Israel. Increasingly large numbers of casualties, including children,.

the israeli air strikes in Gaza and now on the streets of Israel by shocking scenes of MAR pilots against both Arabs and Jews. Today I spoke with my colleagues in Jerusalem, Isabel Kirshner, about why it's all happening and just how much worse it may get it's Thursday made thirtieth. Isn't it I knew there may not be a simple answer to this question, but what was the trigger

for this are russian of violence injurious on over the past few weeks, while one of the triggers for sure is actually a case of six palestinian families who are facing looming eviction by jewish landlords from their houses that they ve been living in. Since the nineteen fifties in a very small quiet, leafy neighbourhood of EAST Jerusalem, not far from the old city, the neighbourhood of czech agenda attentions been growing for weeks. Several palestinian families face eviction from their homes as habitat

we are in the right. We are still resisting we're staying here, even if they don't want us. This is a case, that's being babbling. On for years and years, don't understand why Arabs yeah, I don't want any problems that this land is jewish, belongs to us. We don't believe anyone, not the courts or anyone else the israeli government has cast. It is a small private, real estate disputes, but it's far from that so you're talking about families who were displaced and made refugees dream nineteen, forty eight they wore surrounding the creation of Israel and they lost their homes in what became Israel and they moved to that area of EAST Jerusalem when the Jordanians were in control and the

Your Damien governments actually offered them an option in conjunction with the United Nations Refugee agency. At the time they said, will build some houses in this neighbourhood, a few dozen houses and you can come live in them, We will register them for you and in return, you should give up your refugee status and the fat is actually agreed that moved into the houses, but at the end of the day, if somehow there the chinese government, never actually. Finally, the registered in their names. So then in nineteen DE seven, the Middle EAST War breaks out and Jordan losing control of the land of EAST Jerusalem and Israel takes control of it, Israel, after the sixty seven war, annex that territory, but that move was never internationally recognised and most of the world still come

it is it occupied territory, and although there was an agreement between the Jordanians in these palestinian families over these homes, the land they sit on now gets to be controlled by it. Rail? An unsolved that, although this is now a palestinian populated area, predominantly the land was bored by a jewish trust in the nineteenth century three and then in the meantime, religious trusts have sold the rights to a real estate agency people who want to move juice back into that neighbourhood. and there is nothing more in the palestinian mindset, nothing more upsetting than the refugee issue. So I just took a much bigger proportions.

It's not just about sir renting and eviction order or a few houses is suddenly becomes a national issue, so this is pretty complicated but a size. These refugee palestinian families were given these homes in the nineteen fifties and told that it would be their home for good, but that didn't happen. It's still the case that legally these homes belong to jewish landlords and now those which landlords are saying she's passed in families, we are you out and impart they want them out because they want jewish people to control these properties in EAST Jerusalem ask the ridge and their able to do that, based on a nineteen seventeen law which allows jewish property owners to reclaim property in the east side of the sea,

tea. But you know, then, on the other side, the Palestinians do not have the same recourse to reclaim properties day left on the west side of the city or elsewhere in Israel. So this has created a huge imbalance and the dispute has gone from the district court, all the way up to the Supreme Court, and we were waiting for a final verdict in the case of whether the evictions would go ahead or not on Monday trees. But how does this legal conflict over these elections spiral into what we are seeing now. How does it happen? Ok, good question, because there are many many other strands to this story, and I think one thing we have to look at is the calendar. we have been in a month, has been extraordinary in many ways. So, on the one hand we ve had the months of Ramadan, In these limit lunar calendar and

Madame the lunar calendar, it moves, so this year, Ramadan fell from MID April to now, so they also coincided with a month in the hebrew calendar when you also have quieter so the emotive dates you have heard the memorial day for fallen soldiers. You have heard the independence day you get towards the end of the month and you get Jerusalem Day, which is the day when some Israelis not all, is celebrating what they call the reunification of Jerusalem in the nineteen sixty seven war. I mean that this is a day where these railways and marking conquering the eastern part of city, placing the Palestinians in the city generally on the other side of the line in what became occupied. East Jerusalem got it and that can be a very provocative day as well, because a central feature of it is

they call the flags parade, which is usually thousands, of young right wing most the jewish youths who march traditionally on a very contentious rout right through the muslim quarter of the old city, to get to the wailing wall. And of course that was supposed to happen. Also on. Yes, you guessed it Monday. So Monday of this past week becomes through the eviction case and to the calendar, a kind of swirling collision of palestinian grief

and is really celebration and just a kind of powder keg rise like, and we also had a lot else going on in the city. Building up to this day, Ramadan is a time when the city is very much on edge. It's the time of the inner religious and nationalist fervour for many people, and it started with several other potential points of ignition. So you had the police, for example, barring Palestinians from gathering at Damascus gate. Damascus gate is one of the most beautiful and historic entrances to the old

see from the east side- and it has these steps and going down to a plaza a bit like a kind of amphitheatre and every night during Ramadan traditionally, every year Palestinians come, they gather there, they break their fast. There are cultural events and its general kind of party, a festival atmosphere, but for some reason this year the police band. Anyone from gathering and sitting on the steps they could have barricades and said it was for public order to allow people to safely enter an exit,

old city, and this creates a huge tension, so it actually turned into a battlefield every night you would have the police trying to disperse the crowds, their young Palestinians Woods protest and it would end in clashes. We also had what became known as the tick tock attacks One of us said there were a couple of palestinian seventeen year old youths who killed themselves for a tick tock video slapping an ultra, also job Stu. While he was sitting on the light rail training and a car went viral and there were one or two other similar attacks and people just took great from attended up with hundreds of young israeli Jews

choosing to Damascus Gate chanting. with things, including deaf to Arabs, the end you had the police acting as a buffer between them and the palestinian protesters at Damascus, gate, and you know pitch battles on both sides. The police, so that was one other strands of greater Building up towards this Monday

so a very unstable situation is very much ignited by actions taken by multiple groups of people on the ground in Jerusalem, including the israeli place right. So we come to Monday morning. After all, this build up of all these different tensions in the city in this very tense month, and we get to the point where we ve had little culture, which is a very wholly day for Muslims at the end of Ramadan when thousands of worshippers spend the night traditionally in the compound of the act, some ask, which is the third holiest, citing Islam and its also probably one of the most hotly contested sites

the world, because it is also the holiest place for Jews. They know it is Temple Mount and is the location of two ancient temples. So on Monday morning, which is Jerusalem day as well, there were jewish groups who were planning as they traditionally due to go up to the Temple Mount on a visit and the muslim worshippers, many of whom, as they say, had been there overnight, were expecting them ready, for you know what they would see as a kind of invasion on their holy territory. On a very wholly time of year, the police stopped the jewish groups

from going up. But what we did see was the police in large numbers raid. The compound there are many different takes on whether they when seen just to disperse crowds, or they went in to stop stone. Throwing I protested at the side this authority started or whether the stones only started after the police arrived at. Whatever the exact circumstances, you ended up with a large police raids,

on the acts are most compounds and it ended in stone, throwing clashes with police, responding with tear gas, rabbit bullets, stun grenades and, by the end of the main parts. In this confrontation, you have on the one side. Three hundred and thirteen Palestinians have been injured.

two hundred and fifty who are actually treated in hospitals and on the other side, twenty one police officers injured so is about what happens after this police raid on the mosque. How do Palestinians respond so by the afternoon we get an ultimatum from her mass thing. Islamic group, it holds sway in Gaza, saying if these really do not remove all their forces from the man.

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You know there's a feeling that Jerusalem is under attack, so once this deadline passes hamas- sends missiles over into Jerusalem AIR there aiming towards Jerusalem, one was intercepted by Israel's. I underline the Anti missile defence system. Others actually fell in communities and empty ground in the hills, West, Jerusalem and nobody was killed or hurt. But there was some property damage

and this was highly unusual and clearly was not going to go without an israeli response and what is that response, while Israel has clearly been anticipating some kind of action from Gaza and voice has what he calls a bank of targets that is built up and Israel immediately began with air strikes in Gaza and now Gaza is a very small and crowding territory. So, even if Israel says it's targeting military targets with very precise weapons and taking all the precautions it can to avoid civilian casualties

Inevitably, there are civilian casualties as well. So from the beginning, the air strikes with deadly. There were two children killed very early on that night and each side just kept stepping up Israel taking down tower blocks in Gaza, multistory buildings that housed Emma S, offices or headquarters of various types of Mass and Hamas ass again is used. Another ultimatum and said to his rough you hit, any more. A civilian buildings we going to hit TEL Aviv and a huge, huge salvo back, Oh Jesus rockets began streaming acid, Gaza and, coming into suburbs around ten of Aviv, you know things have just been, escalating. All the way so by Wednesday

afternoon two days into the conflict. We have at least fifty three Palestinians killed according to the Gaza health officials, fourteen of them children and more than three hundred wounded and on the israeli side you have at least six people who have been killed and in our schools, injured. Is about it is often fell in moments like this, that Hamas is missile attacks as terrifying. they are too, is really is often fail to inflict so we can damage on Israel based on the technology that Hamas is using and that the israeli counter attacks tend to be much better targeted and more destructive, and the death toll seems to suggest that that has been the case so far here. A kind of disproportionate impact.

It looked disproportionate is a term that sir, you know is often used. I think they certainly the circumstances that Israel has total as superiority in terms of its air force. The Hamas Rockets are rather inaccurate. Israel just have the iron dome system which manages to intercept the authorities say about ninety percent of Rockets, the tower headed to population census in Israel, but the Gaza Strip is just first of all, very crowded a densely populated the Israelis, will tell you that Hamas operates from civilian areas within Gaza, making it very very, very difficult to avoid collateral damage at this point is it

to describe what's happening here as a war as war like what what is this, it feels pretty warlike. If we end up with a ground campaign on these rainy forces side, it will definitely be a war and is there talk of a ground operation? Well, no confirmation of one by some preparation seems to be being made. There are some cool ups of reserves. There is. Some man troops in vehicles moving down towards the border. So it's not being rolled out, but it's hard to tell, I think, he's railway rush into a grounds invasion because they are usually very costly, but sometimes you know it, Sir parted the tactical war to signal that you're ready for one, which could also be what's going on. What are the leaders on all sides of this sang about

this moment and how it might come to an end. I really is that's a tricky question, because both the israeli and palestinian leadership is very much in flux, but what are they sang about it? So. we heard on Wednesday night, a very strong statement from President Mahmoud Abbas. He leads the Palestinian Authority in the West can is a main rival of her mass, and he was basically telling Israel end your occupation and we ve been hearing more from her mass. So

smile honey are a senior Hamas political leader sensor recorded addressed to a hammer civilly eighty television station mobile, I'm so happy tat dream on coffee muscle, whatever lick, what nothing pop up. When I remembered TAT either he spoke about being contacted by Egypt. Hats, our United Nations, with some kind of talk of may be working towards a ceasefire, daddy than to put you on a par with that that enable us to learn at least eighty. He said since, in his view Israel had started this. It was Israel's responsibility to be the ones to begin to end. It do me out of my reports and will follow majorities on the Israelis

I'd were hearing that sir we're not done yet. The defence minister said on Wednesday is no end date and the night before the Prime Minister also said you know this could take some time. So it sounds like from leadership. There's not an eagerness to quickly bring this to end right. It does seem that on both sides, there not rushing to end this and it might actually be helping them herself. On the palestinian side, you have her mass operating really in a vacuum with palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, whose aging and weak and hammer

pretty trying to reinstates itself using its currency of leading the resistance and defending Jerusalem, which is you know, who ways of running cry on the palestinian side and on these ready side that you have a very confused situation, because prime instant in Yahoo is currently standing trial on corruption charges. He has been unable to form a government after four elections in two years, and his arrivals were working on trying to form an alternative coalition which would have seen him removed from office for the first time, twelve years, and I think you know we're not sure how this is going to play out, but somehow he might well be able to capitalize on this tying as being not the right time to have a change in government.

Is about we started this conversation by talking about the eviction case in EAST Jerusalem, that in many people's eyes lit the fuse that has now turned into this warlike conflict. What has happened without willing, so the ruling was supposed to come on Monday on Sunday after the government had spent. You know weak saying this is just a private real estate dispute. The attorney general finally stepped in and asked for a delay in the case so that he could study the materials, get involved, state an opinion and the judges gave him a month suspending the verdict for at least thirty days,

is one case where the Israelis stepped in to try and defuse the situation. But of course it was too little too late, so this ruling has been delayed, but not for all that long and eventually, when it comes out, it will no doubt influence the course of this conflict that has erupted over the past few weeks. But it strikes me as is odd, and maybe a bit ironic, that the israeli government, Has called this eviction case of real estate dispute when you could argue that the entire history of the israeli palestinian conflict is ultimately, I just screwed over real estate overland and over the idea of home he sent me could see it. That way, I mean you know we sold a security and national and religious aspects to this. Conflict has been going on for the past century. At the end of the day. It's about who rules territory where.

And who gets to call a play. So here is about as always. Thank you very much. Thank you the times, reports that, as the conflict expand rival mobs of Jews and Arabs are carrying out violent attacks in several israeli cities and towns. One occurred in a suburb of TEL Aviv, where dozens of jewish extremists took turns beating and kicking, and arab motorcycle driver, even as his body lay motionless on the ground. Another occur

in northern Israel, where an arab mob beat a jewish man with sticks and rocks, leaving him in critical condition. On Wednesday night, the United Nations warned that the conflict could soon intensify into quote all out war and the Biden administration, dispatched a senior american diplomats to the Middle EAST to meet with israeli and palestinian leaders and to urge both sides to de escalate we'll be right back.

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