For the remainder of this week, “The Daily” is revisiting episodes with people we met in the early weeks of the pandemic to hear what’s happened to them since our original conversations were first aired.
Climbing on the roof to look at stars in the middle of summer. Making French toast and popcorn. Kind eyes. These are some of the memories Tilly Breimhorst has of her grandfather, Craig. We spoke with Tilly in May about losing her grandfather to coronavirus. Today, we check back in with her.
Guest: Matilda Breimhorst, a 12-year-old who recently lost her grandfather to the coronavirus. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily
Background reading:
- In personal and profound ways, the coronavirus crisis has created a sense of collective loss. Here are some ways to grieve.
This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
Hey there. It's Michael this week were revisiting people. We met in the early weeks of the pandemic. Listening back and hearing what's happened,
since our original conversations today, Tilly Prime Horst, it's Friday July,
Contain
I am we coordinate and it is working hate, Tilly, hey. How are you
I'm doing. Ok till he. What is that, in your hand, looks like our blanket or a stuffed animal? It's a blanket
What does it say on it? It says Paradise.
And is it look like it? Has an image of pepperoni pizza is our glimpsing, the bologna? That's pretty great.
Or until I really want to thank you for getting on the phone with us. Our this google hang out with us, and I want
You could tell me your full name and how old Matilda rose brain first and then I am
and I just wanna start with a very simple question: how have you been feeling this? Past week
I'm coming in and out of blue. Additionally, the two words that I mostly in our sad and angry, and why do you think that you're, a sad and angry about now
we feel like were sad and angry, because I think angry more that it's not fair. That he's gone and I feel excited
Billy were circuit, he's gone and said that were being set,
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Thousands of America's have died from the corona virus.
One of them, whose Craig Prime Horst
today, his granddaughter remembers him.
It's Friday may first, I want, if you could tell me a little bit.
Your grandfather, how would you describe your grandfather physically Woody
look like go anywhere, those guns things he flew Pastor
was he a pastor? Yes, he was a pastor
he used to be a male man, and then it will like that job and careful right here and then the mustache, because right into the bay
And when I was little, I placed his beard because it despite some interesting touching it with my hands, what they fell on profit spree, be but like not to scraping
you bet glasses. Hence some time is stored with wealth will be wiped out and back and like whenever walked into the house. He just
like how do you know him from but just Hebrew? It's always something he said wholly home, but it's more interesting than about here. Did he have any kind of nickname for you to be? My won t be yeah curse, the bright worse than just called me till he be in tenders, rhymes, wait report which part rhymes Tilly and then be it's just kind of like it. Just goes together till you ve told me here, and then he had always make me happy,
bake really get upset around him. Almost. I was hurried unless you were hurt. You said here. Of course we did our first, a crazy things. We now need to understand some of the crazy things you did with them
We take me out on the roof, affords repressed sleeping bags on the roof
enough of your hat of your house?
We in this house, but we didn't tell my dad about it until afterwards. Wow
It sounds like he has a slightly mischievous quality to him yeah. Can you tell me about that? What was
Well, it would usually we like the middle summer and with grab the step ladder and
open the window, pull up the screen climb upon the edge of the roof after a special spot, just laid their real, reaches the stars and talked for a while. What kinds of things would your grandfather saying here till he lets for the big day per? Maybe the milky way for lucky and Mars: maybe a weight but isn't Martha Planet another star. He would just be it, but we can see it as a red star Kinder. The stars were really bride.
And it was really warm outside Network- is beautiful. How often would you see your grandfather? You didn't see and like every single weekend, but like the Tampa, why did they counted my school need sit in the lunchroom with me, wow.
He would just show up. Did he announced himself was an unexpected. You never told me that he was coming and interesting waiting for me right next to lunch. You know
just waiting for me and then I look around for him every time it sit right. Next,
to me- and I have a lunch box and it kind of just pick out things from it and see, take my chips and I feel like he talks to my friends. We talked about like all these fun things, like all the stories about like going to Tanzania
in answer to things, and what would you think when you saw him, do you think I'd be proud? I'd be proud that my grandpa
to this, to my school awarded to just eat, went with me and my friends of stories he's just there right when I needed it,
We feel really nice
yeah. I don't know a lot of grandpas grandma's who due do its really special,
so I want you to tell me if you're willing, the story of the last few weeks and what happened when you're,
father there, and then I wonder and unaware you think we should start. I think we should take start from the beginning, so my grandma went typically limbs. He wanted to take his church group there, so they went to the Middle EAST here where baby gives us like board like their stir the place, and then they got like this morning. There an outbreak has started here of the crowd of Arabs,
and so, when they come back, there were certain to quarantine but brave when they came back pepper start getting like really high fever really high fever
In my mind at rest, your whose home I was like. Oh, he is buying he'll get through this strong, but then he got worse and worse, smells like what's gonna happen most as Canada, worried state
but like not like her. Oh, my gosh really really sad that until a couple weeks later, he just couldn't do it and he got lift into the hospital here.
Until we were you talking to him during this time. No, I didn't get to talk to middle men like debtors, but I dont know if even to read those,
I remember so, when I heard about that, he was putting hospital has got worse mammals like do you, wanna stay with one of his shirt burst like here is so she brought me the shirt
It is the a greenish brown t shirt. Were you re wearing Inner was just beside you
was wearing it it, but they
Do you really think that we can then I called, but it really soothing to wear it, though I wanted to feel like those close to most giving him a hug. Didn't I thought about him the whole night, I print the cue to make it so tat. He wouldn't have to call my prayer relation true, because Ceuta struck during the night from heart disease that he had and supervision, even if we take it
that he would actually like boy would be there, but he wouldn't be there. He can do anything like that. Talk into the things made him him and how to draw from the news, not gonna call, and when I looked at her lips were worries. Why can't just
stuff? Then they told me what happened and what did she tell you
We the living world, my grandma,
I do have my uncles red, read it. What the doctor will to them that it said that if something happened,
two to go, he didn't want like have to suffer in this state, so your gun
other heads written a will that made clear that if he got very sick- and
he reached a condition where things weren't working out
wanted to be allowed to die here. Only just wanted to go to Heaven be good
He says he wanted a fall in the arms of cloud. That's what he was here. He was the phone arms current is, I think, a trust fund. Billy, and I like him, I can hinder like going that Ngos are becoming capability, was mainly war. That was hard to know
how you holding up over there. Ok, it's talking about it, but it also makes me happy to talk about how great was
It happened in I've lost my grandparents to its
another kind of sad, inevitable things that it me
to be alive. Is that the people before you die in it? It's it's just really hard. It is really hurt,
and why are you being very brave in
telling the story. I know how difficult it must be taken of all the way back.
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Can I ask you to describe sadness to me what it feels like a word,
said Missus Roby, like a hard won through me happiness EC do easily, but like TAT, Missus kinda hard.
Why is happiness easy and why a sad is hard to think.
I don't know they mean Sadness- is an emotion that is kind of like more like deeper and kind of like a big big emotion and happiness can be big, but not as much as Batman
Does a death to it that makes it hard to describe yeah. I can feel like sadness, this lake, just an ocean, filled with nothing
Have you noticed that the people around you, your parents, that they are said to be it so,
My dad will go said a lot. You can tell it he's getting angry and he's really short tempered at that point. Mom. Will Canada stay for dinner?
It's not really doing anything
sit around we're getting mom, try to keep crying to herself dad too, but I can see it
mean tried out there trying to shielded from you you, when I can still feel it
do you wish that they would just do it in front of you?
We do, and why do you think they should do it
more out in the open sea like I can
me understand, my motions does well Lake. Had they feel too, I feel bad.
The kind of gives you permission to feel the way you feel here like when. Certainly my dad about proper
try none. I start crying and just heard you didn't you slice, you know a lot of
kids are going through what you're going to right now because of this virus, and a lot of adults are going through this. How? I wonder how that makes you feel it makes me feel
They are not alone, and they also makes me feel angry about how this issue
had the sturdy I wanna know, so I could figure out like how it will happen again. I was the cause.
Were human today was hard.
The animal was a cannibal
it turns out. This is just something that nature and the universe gave us, and it wasn't somebody who did something. How would you feel about that may be met the universe,
I know that a lot of people when someone they care about love passes away. They end up looking for that purpose.
In the world, or they end up thinking about that person. Unexpectedly yeah,
looking maybe they're there stand by you less thing. Yeah, I feel like Papa was thick by me, but I feel like he's out there like that of the people and of helping them, since they are bad moments
have a very specific sense of my grandmother whenever they saw
comes on, because when I was
around your age, she died and a song
playing on the radio, and it was a song that made me feel sad, even though it was a love song, and if you have heard the song its by Richard Boxing
goes wherever you go whenever you do, I will be right there waiting for you, and it always makes me think of
my grandmother and her death. Whenever it comes on
if you're having moments like that, yet
yeah. I do have this type of four minutes, but by candid different than does the song.
When I saw my grandma inner backyard because we went over just to the back. There were about to get close to anyone know I felt like he felt like sad, but they also felt pain. The ten will be used that he is is in place. Now he didn't have to deal with this and virus doesnt have to feel pain or sadness. To me, have you cannot side and looked up at the sky?
is tat. Your grandfather died or new will pick that not much better at this same without being at my guy mishaps, do you think that you
you will do that. You think will be a point when you
want to do that. Yeah we sent one, we're gonna go overtook them. This house
My daddy in a big sister and I go to the room and you sit down- starts
well tell me. I'm really want to thank you for spending time with us,
and I want to tell you I'm sorry. I
but alas, at your grandfather in here he was really got to talk to you. If you ve got to talk to someone about it, it's good to talk
after this episode, air too.
Begin receiving letters from people across the country. Some new, her grandfather,
and wanted to shear stories of their time with others wanted to tell her about there
treasured relationship with our grandparents one listener? Legal wrote quote for those lucky people like you and me
We were blessed with enough time to know our grandparents and further
to have an impact on us that will now
go away.
Till he says it's been a while, since her grandfather has appeared in her dreams and this,
he's recently start wearing his shirt when she goes to bed.
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