From the New York Times are Michael Barbara. This today, the Trump Administration has signed an executive order and the separation of parents and children. Is everything just going back. To the way it was it's Thursday June twenty first If I might, I just wanted to make a brief statement on immigration and what's happening. And I'll, say very honestly and I'll say it very straight: From the very beginning of this controversy over separating parents and children at the border, President Trump has placed the blame on Democrats. Immigration is the fault

and all of the problems that we're having, because we cannot get them too sign legislation. We can not get them even to the negotiating table, and I say it very strongly the Democrats fault. There obstruct there really obstructionist and they are obstructing, and why By that I mean the notion that Democrats would be responsible for a practice that seems like pretty much democratic nightmare when it comes to immigration policy, doesn't at all intuitive is your case to be made here. What's what's the basis on which the president is saying that the Democrats cost us, there really is an occasion made here and it's pretty disingenuous on its face, because the law, the president, was Invoking in order to force these separations is the most basic one on the books. It's that you can't enter the country with permission. Everybody agrees on the law doesn't exist because of the Democrats.

Linda. Christen covers immigration for the times, but it is true that a lot of Republicans and the President believe that larger issues, but the immigration system are the fault of the Democrats. He believes they came into office within immigration system that was bodily and disrepair people requesting asylum in droves, even though the vast number who do aren't eligible for it, a mass of undocumented population that wasn't getting any smaller, the courts are backlog, detentions and Therefore, borders are overwhelming. You could make it arguments and I think the president's sorted is that in a very general way, but he came in to a system that was totally broken, that that was the Democrats fault, and so he had to do something really extreme and that extreme move becomes the zero tolerance policy and which everybody who crossed the border as prosecuted- and that means everybody who comes with kids, is separated from them

so the President saying that Democrats cause this by allowing the immigration system to get so bad in the first place, that's right and he's, also blaming Democrats for the fact that legislative change hasn't coming under his administration. He's pending that on Democrats as well, ultimately. Congress is going to change the low turnout at the same time, Mr President, people say: look you you rip these family support, even though it is the law, its heartless, that's the law and that's what the Democrats gave us and were willing to change it today if they want to get in and negotiate, but they just don't want to negotiate they're, afraid of they're afraid of security. For us, drink, they're afraid of a wall, and is he right and making that argument? Was it the action or the inaction of Democrats that led the Trump administration to implement this family separation right

I don't think that you can argue it it thummim when it comes to the legislative frustration and the lack of action under this administration. Both sides have really held that debate hostage with various sort of extreme policies that they have been unwilling to yield on that or deal breakers for the other side. It was a week, filled with possibility, the? U S? Senate debating a fix for young immigrants brought to the U S illegally, as children by their parents and taking up immigration reform. We have a chance this week to get it right. In the end, the Senate, rejected both by partisan plan and one proposed by the President a thought, our French, across the our job, this opportunity to fulfil what I say is their top priority, but they just couldn't. I guess your answer when it comes to this bigger question: about family separations and whether Trump had to resort to those as a result of debt,

Craddock, action or inaction. I think was true is that for several administrations passed this question of how to lower the number of border crossing borders has been unanswerable. Nobody has been able to figure it out, including President Obama, and so this action that Trump takes the start separating families in the most extreme move that we ve seen yet and its to try to answer a question that true President Obama couldn't figure out how to answer but no previous administration was able to before it. The dilemma is that if you are weak, if your weak, If some people would like you to be really really pathetically weak there, He's gonna be overrun with millions of people, strong then you don't have any harm tough dilemma. Perhaps the strong and the beginning of the trumpet ministration, the border numbers kind dropped.

On their own Billy dramatically. Even publicans thought that this problem would solve itself just from the president's tough talk but sure enough. They came back to the pre election levels than for the pressure has been even higher on the president to figure out that power. Recently, so the implementation of the same problem as passive administrations, including the Obama administration, but with greater stakes from their perspective because of the Trump platform and rhetoric and the differences that none of these previous administrations have been willing to resort to this particular practice? That's right has the commission been trying to blame Democrats for this practice from the moment that the practice began there and they actually, they win a step further and the very beginning and four months actually denied that they were separating families that all until we got access to data that show they were and so back, and it gives you an indication, my

of the level of smoke and mirrors that we ve seen from the beginnings of the man text than opposition. In this conversation about family separation. I think we made it abundantly clear that the daylight exists between Democrats in Congress and their ability to change this law. The president himself said that he doesn't he hates these images. He hates this process, and that's why he's asked for it to be fixed in once, the administration was essentially busted and the country figured out they worst separating families. Then came this argument and the Democrats fault because they weren't willing to change exists. Immigration law, and so this administration had no choice but to enforce that. I feel like we keep ignoring the fact that the president isn't the one that creates the law but its congresses, job, to create the law in the presidency. Eddie laid out and glad Lease stated. Number of times publicly that he would sign legislation that fixes these loopholes and fix it.

Immigration system and that's where this argument totally falls apart, because where's doesn't have anything to do with the decision to separate parents and children. Congress didn't play the role and the decision to separate families and then the decision on Wednesday to change that practice, I think that people should be begging and bringing down the doors of Congress and asking them to join with the president. Instead of fighting him instead of constantly criticised, why aren't they offering solutions you have? like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck shimmer who come out and complain and attack because they have no message. They have no solutions. Laid out a solution and we'd like to see them work with us to put it in place and how is Congress responding to the president's attempts to blame it for the separation policy? So both Republicans and Democrats in Congress have had just stop separating parents

children that involves wearily within the abilities of the White House to stop doing it and they really called the White House out sneaking. But it's been trying to make in the last few weeks, where both the press, and the whole insecurity secretary have insisted publicly and really loudly that there is no family separation policy. Are you intending, to play out as it is playing. Are you intending for parents to be separated from their children pretending to send a message. I find that the offensive Because what live when I ever create a policy that purposely does that no, they kept repeating line. There's a lot of misinformation about what d just isn't is not doing as it relates to families at the border, and I want to correct the record here: are the facts. First, this administration did not create a policy of separating families at the border. It doesnt matter, if there's a family, abrasion policy or not because parents, and

were being separated, and I think both the public and Congress called the White House out and said: look. We see what you're trying to do, but at the end of the day, you're still separating people from one another. I support The members are republican conference support plan families together, while their immigration status determine Congress that I'm just stop it. Let's go back to the meant that we were having before let's go back to trying to come up with legislative fix this, but in the meantime, let's keep parents and kids together. Mr President, you alone can fix it. In fact, the president alone can fix it with this flick of a pen by signing a presidential order. The end, the agonizing screams of small children who have been separated their parents, the president, a lend you my pen, any pan,

you can fix it yourself for signing a thicket of order. I consider to be a very important executive order, is about keeping families together while at the same time ensure that we have a very powerful, very strong water and water security would be equal if that greater than previously- and it seems like Congress has prevailed in that argument on Wednesday it that, because I don't jump now executive order and which parents and kids aren't going to be together. Strong, very strong borders, but we're going to keep the families together like the site, with a feeling of families being separated. Doing so did Congress show?

that the president's arguments were pretty hollow because it was in fact the president, using as executive authority who acted to end. This and Congress did I think you could say that, yes, ultimately, the president had to act to change, and that puts this policy squarely back on him and began to write. Congress was right in saying, You can fix this on your own. Your argument This is a legislative matter. Clearly is wrong because you just fixed him exactly so after days of insisting that he can't fix that it's really up to Congress. Why do you think that Trump caved on this and acted on his on the administration has in the last couple of me a level of. A and criticism from the media from the media. From Republicans from Democrats Congress. That is really, I think, unmasked under

the ministries- and I mean it's as if the entire country was looking at the White House and saying why are you doing? As you know, the entire country is looking at borders and videos and hearing audio of children being separated from their parents than it was. It was just a red line, so many people that I think the presidency felling hundreds So how exactly does he and this thing so he introduced then executive order. That says we're still going to prosecute everybody with zero tolerance, we're going to make sure the parents and children are kept together. So that means we're going to sort of reinvigorate the family, detention facilities that already exist and were also going to call on the military to try to very quickly construct more and any other federal agencies that can help to contribute to make sure there's enough room to hold people in custody, while also keeping them

but was down even the issue: isn't the entire premise of zero tolerance that Everyone crossing the border will face criminal prosecution and because of that we have to be separated from their parents his minors can be included in that process. So how possible to simultaneously nineteen, zero tolerance but keep families together. That was the argument, and a lot of this comes down to looking at it is on the books and then realizing that administrations have incredible power in terms of how they want to interpret them. Though, in the past, when somebody was prosecuted criminally, they were automatically separated from their child because you don't send a cat, the jail but President Obama, very, very few people work fast ok and now that we are in a position where far more people are going to be prosecuted. We come up against the court settlement from ninety ninety seven. It's called the floor as settling

and that has limited the ability of administration is the whole soldier and increased for more than twenty days, so in the past than you would see, parents and children held in costs, David gather they could only stay on for twenty days and then they would have to be released for that stock in a work for president front, because we know he hates this idea of catching release, and so too is the porters. So figured out a way to keep parents and children together but make sure they stay in custody until their case. The third indicated an LSD hopes that almost about afford it. By eliminating this ninety ninety seven rule that said, children can't beheld for longer than twenty days. That's what he's trying to do by trying to supersede that rolling with coming up with an executive order that really contradicts what it says that the ruling says you can't keep people in custody for more than twenty days, but executive order says you can keep people in custody indefinitely, and why didn't President Obama just do the same thing? Them try to soup

seed this ninety ninety seven rolling all because you can't just supersede court rulings and that's why this is very likely going to result in a very big legal battle, because floor as has been caught up in the courts and ninety ninety, seven and worse still seeing appeals and decisions come down on that case today so sort of come out of nowhere and introduce an executive order that contradicts it is, is an approach that with a company ministration is trying to do, but you can expect that lawyers are gonna. Challenges? So this is active order, eliminating separation practice, but maintaining zero tolerance is unlikely to hold up in court. You could vary easily see a scenario where a policy falls apart in court and where we end up exactly where we were a for family separation, witches parents and children who cross the border together, detained for twenty days and then the released until their cases are adjudicated So this is exactly why other administrations have found themselves in

the impossible situation that the trumpet ministration finds itself in exactly I mean is incredibly difficult to come up with a policy that effectively discouraged just people from coming to the? U s that lower than a meaningful way, the number of people who are coming here, but that doesn't violate their rights and that's why no administration after administration containing to throw spaghetti against the wall and nothing step. So immense sense is the president in effect right that only Congress can really solve the immigration problems you. Look at it. That way, I mean you could again say that you have to release stepped back and you have to release dart over from the view beginning to come up with a change. You know it's really hard to speculate about. What's going to change that numbers of people crossing a border in a meaningful way, but but you could our you that YAP administrations have tried just about everything at this point, and now it should follow in Congress. So in the meantime, in all likelihood,

Are we going right back to where we started before the Trump administration begin separating children from their parents at the border? A few months ago, Yes, or no I mean we are going back to where we were earlier in the sense that parents and children are going to be held together in custody. The difference is that until this executive order has challenged, they'll be held in custody, and definitely- and on top of that we still have thousands of children in custody. Right now,

have been separated from their parents and have to figure out what we're going to do with them. I mean, as we ve reported, these agencies have really struggled to bring people back together and that the result of the fact that this separation started happening so quickly and also that it wasn't announced, are referred to as a policy not means that a lot of the planning and ground work that comes with a legitimate policy change didn't happen. Here, though, we ve seen both the Department of Homeland Security that holding onto the parents and then the health and Human Services Department, that's holding onto the children relief bumbled to try to connect the two with one another, and so we still have these two thousand at least kids in custody, just from recent months, have been separated from parents in, and we have to figure out how to reunite them through its true that this wasn't really. Policy and the impact of that on these children is a very real one. That's right, I mean sort of regardless of whether a document was ever signed by the president. That said, the United States is,

from now on going to separate parents and children, the reality Is that had happened to a lot of people and that is going to continue to effect these kids for a very long time. There's a problem, that's going on for many years. As you know, many administrations and where you're very hard on immigration in left out in the hall Killin, I was that even in announcing this executive order on Wednesday, the present system to deal with this on his own president. Trump still blames the Democrats it. It seems as if he's trying to frame this even now, as Democrats caused this terrible problem, and I'm just fixing exactly even in finally can eating on Wednesday and a president is still placing the blame for this practice, and for these broader issues

the immigration system right on the democratic people having dealt with it and we are dealing with it so step by step. Just like we dealt with, North Korea, we dealt with the ran, we dealt with an economy that is heading in the wrong direction. You dealt with a lot of different problems Is one that has been going on for many decades so working been families together, and this will solve that problem at this time, we are keeping it powerful water and it continues to be a zero tolerance. We have z tolerance for people enter our country illegally. Without ask my mass. Thank you very much. Thanks, Michael president trumps executive order is titled cooled off.

Wording Congress and opportunity to address family separation suggests I think that it is still up to Congress to end the practice of separating children from their parents. It is unfortunate the order, says The Congress is failure to act and court orders have put administration in the position of separating alien families to effectively enforced the law. The house, is expected to vote on a bill that would end fail: These operations later today will be right back unable to get to the salon these past few months, you may have for the fate of your hair into the hen an amateur or worse, your own pay changes, and always pretty especially in the markets, but I shares eat. He asked can help you embrace it back when you do more for your portfolio, indifferent markets, so you can see

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