Standing next to President Vladimir V. Putin at the close of their summit meeting, President Trump challenged the conclusion of his own intelligence agencies: that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election. “They think it’s Russia,” Mr. Trump said. “I don’t see any reason why it would be.” Guest: Julie Hirschfeld Davis, a New York Times correspondent who reported on the meeting from Helsinki, Finland. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.
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From the New York Times are Michael Barbara. This he's dead.
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their historic summit. President tromp standing
Next to President Putin challenged the conclusion of his own government that Russia,
interfered in the? U S, elections, they think it's! Russia Trump said I
see any reason why it would be
it's Tuesday July, summoned Joy Davis. What's the main question watch your main question going into this
But on Monday, while the main question is really, you know what is Trump Gonna try to get out of this, and is he in this opportunity has to sit down with Putin? Gonna have actually bring up some of the
issues in the relationship, primarily the fact that Russia interfered in the presidential election, but also Russia's illegal annexation of Crimea. Poisonings of people in Britain that mean a Russia has been accused of carrying out is the press.
Can actually pressed him on these things are going to be all about in a friendliness and reaching out, which is how the president basically seem to be approaching this in the days leading up to the meeting where, in all, this is coming just three days after these latest indictments from the special council robber Mothers investigation indictments.
Of russian government officials, which left it essentially undeniable that Russia meddled in the twenty six in election and then it was orchestrated by
and his government right. I mean this was always going to be a topic of conversation at this meeting. He said that he was gonna, ask her about it
even before we knew that these environments are gonna happen, but certainly once they came down on Friday, it completely serve changed the cast of the summit, and was this gonna change the president's tack on this, his approach to Putin on the issue, or was he going to do what he has done in the past, resist essentially to ask the question
but when Putin has denied it, you know he's basically moved on from it and the fact that the indictments came down on Friday made let's just move on just really impossible right. So what happens as this day begins in Helsinki? That gives us some idea of what the answer will be this time
oh, for his part, the president's started the day was a series of fiery tweets. President Trump as he is lost to do, starts tweeting.
Quote. Our relationship with Russia has never been worse thanks to many years of U S, foolishness adds to pity and now the rigged which which of course, is way of referring to the mother investigation. So
right off. The bat is essentially parroting or projecting the Putin narrative, the russian narrative, which is that it's the United States, that is responsible for the difficulties in the relationship with the United States. That's been at fault right that we haven't pursued a better and warmer relationship with Russia in its time to check
and that was the going in posture and very quickly
within an hour, I think the russian Foreign Ministry retweeted the President of United,
states. Instead, we agree. We agree with the president. United States sentiment that the poor
bloom here, even though we have meddled in the U S election,
problem here is the United States right and that we and the russian agreement with it that now kind of feels like a harbinger for the rest of the day. Absolutely
and good morning to you a bit of drama this morning, as this summit is already an hour behind schedule so
for a while. After President Trump has treated and he's met with the finnish president he's waiting for put to arrive. He was scheduled to arrive
about an hour ago, but as President Putin likes to do, he likes to keep
other world leaders waiting and fluttering Putin likes to arrive late to meetings like this. Why and of a power plant?
The present I states now walking in to meet with vitamins
there. You see that handshake and warm words between President Trump and President Putin as President, and you know the reporters filed out, and it was time for them to meet alone with just their translators nuts, just what they did. President
is now meeting behind closed doors with russian President Vladimir Putin and Finland's presidential palace. Let's and then they were supposed to spend ninety minutes together. Instead, they spent more than two hours together, just the two of them and their interpreters with now advisers present. Now, president from who Brad,
about his ability to make a deal is sitting down with one of the most experienced play,
on the world stage, which is a prospect that had really alarmed alot of people going in during Putin's time in power he's met with every: U S, presidency:
bill Clinton, because it's kind of a big deal when then, president of the United States and Russia
together and for there to be no historical record at all of that is pretty extraordinary Serbia to present
We expect to come out any moment were watching the door we ve seen. Tat was alive
this way, and there is a lot of anticipation because nobody really knew what we were gonna hear
when they gonna come out with some big announcement, where they gonna make nice, where they gonna, be very costly
each other, and we want to have some sense of what happened and we noted the Renault agenda is just kind of his lack by president, though
That's where we were when that you presents walk.
So the two of them come out of the side door and they take their place that their lectern pursue issue. Thank you. So much President Putin spoke first distinguished. Mr President, ladies and gentlemen, he essentially started out by saying you know less than we ve had this tension and there's no reason for
the cold war is a thing of the past. The situation in the world changed dramatically. You don T really, I think, was trying to stop
The tone of you know were world leaders than we should be on an equal plain to business
She Asians reflected our joint wish. Our joint with wish, with present trump to redress this now,
situation in the bilateral relationship and, of course this is part of pollutants. Objective here is to be seen, as
not a pariah, not as someone who invades countries and murders people, but as someone who is the big player on the world stage and worthy of a summit with the
CAN president once again, prison Trump mentioned the issue of the so called interference of Russia. When the american elections, he did mention what he called the so called interference of Russia. The russian state has never interfered and is not going to interfere into internal american
Ferris, including election process, and he kind of ended it. On a positive note, he said in general, we are left with the outcome of our first full scale meeting. We had a good conversation with present tramp and I hope that we start to understand each other better, and I am grateful to Donald for that for it, and it was pretty clear he was happy with the way things went, but he wasn't. You know gloating. He was just being very matter of fact and laying out what he thought that they had got enough.
Talk and then thank you. I have just concluded a meeting with President Putin
I'd range of critical issues for both of our countries. We had direct open, deeply productive dialogue went very well and it comes
A productive dialogue is not only good for the United States and good for russian, but it is good for the world and the kind of her traded,
the political risk for him, I would rather take a political risk in pursuit of peace than to risk peace in pursuit of politics.
As president, I will always put what is best for America and what is best for the american people that you know he was willing to take this big rat
as you know, there is a historic opportunity here in a like repair, the relationship with Russia, and he made this comment. Would our relationship has
ever been worse
than it is now, however, that changed as
about four hours ago. I really believe that meaning, like he Donald Trump by having this meaning that essentially just kind of change the relationship and that this was the dawn of
Something much better during today's meeting I addressed directly with President Putin the issue of russian interference in our elections and during her
his opening statement. The president said that he had addressed directly with Putin the issue of russian interference in the. U S:
action, and he said I felt this was a message burst, delivered in person, our ears, all kind of packed up, and we thought oh maybe this is that condemning this spent a great deal of time talking about it,
and President Putin may very well want to address it.
Very strongly, because he feels very strongly about it and he is an interesting idea
and that was it. This is the moment that you,
been waiting for, since all of us have been waiting for, not just since these indictments on Friday
but maybe even since the meddling occurred, that standing together in front of the public, the president, would
speak candidly and confrontational e about this interference. This historic interference in our election and he does that instead, yet it was striking because the way he phrased it that it was a message best delivered and per
Then you could imagine him going on to say you know in the message: is you ve attacked our democracy, you better not do it again, here's the price you're gonna pay for, but there
None of that- and you know here he is on the stage with Putin standing right next to him
whether or not he had brought it up privately. This would have been the moment on the world stage to say to people I'm taking this guy to task. I am holding him to account and he just was not gonna. Go there
very constructive day. This was a very constructive few hours that we spent together. It's
the interest of both of our countries to continue
conversation and we have agreed to do so.
I will be meeting again in the future. Often.
And hopefully we will solve every one of the problems that we discussed today. So again, President Putin, thank you very much
then you know they finish their statement than it was time to take questions from the press. Mr,
You treated this morning that it's? U S.
Business, stupidity and the smaller prove that is responsible,
for the decline in. U S, relations with Russia. President Trump is ass by Jeff Mason, the report for riders
Do you hold Russia at all accountable for anything, in particular
what would you do? What would you consider them that they are responsible for
Yes, I do I older both countries responsible and the present essentially tat. Now I think that
United States has been foolish. I think we ve all been foolish
but I had this dialogue a long time ago, long time, frankly, before I got to office
I think we're all to blame. It doesn't take the opportunity again to take we couldn t task or anything. I think that the the probe is a disaster for a country. Then he kind of it from the general to the specific and starts talking about Mahler. Proud
I think it's kept us support its kept us separated. There was no collusion at all. Everybody knows it. People are being brought to the fore.
So far that I know virtually none of it related to the campaign and they can have
try really hard to find somebody that did relate to the campaign. That was a clean campaign. I beat Hillary Clinton easily and frankly, we beat her.
And I'm not even saying from the standpoint. We won that race and it's a shame that
can even be a little bit of a cloud over it. People know that
will understand it, but the main thing and we discussed, is also zero.
Collusion
It has had a negative impact upon the
relationship of the two largest nuclear powers in the world.
We have ninety percent of nuclear power between the two countries. It's ridiculous, it's ridiculous! What's going on with the pro you know, that was pretty
striking moment where you know he's for weeks and months, his advisers have been saying in a we are holding Russia accountable, friends, malign activities, and here is a direct question about. Do you hold Russia accountable for anything and the president doesn't mention anything,
and he's, instead blaming the Mahler probe for President could blow up as well and then, who is ass by the same report or the american rapporteur for minor
Why should Americans, and why should President Trump believe your statement that Russia did not intervene in the twenty sixteen election give?
the evidence that, U S, intelligence agencies have provided and what
consider extraditing the twelve russian officials that we're indicted last.
Week by U S grand jury. Well, I wouldn't
the president answer. The second part of your question and trump jumps out before Putin has a chance.
But, as you know, the whole concept of that came up, perhaps a little.
Before, but it came out as a reason why the Democrats lost an election which, frankly
They should have been able to win, because the electoral college is much more advantageous for Democrats, as you know that it is too Republicans
We want the electoral college by a lot three or six to twenty three. I believe- and
That was a well for that was a well for it
We did a great job and essentially is very clear that he thinks this question about the second twelve russian officers, who are again accused of attacking the american electoral system. That the whole issue is meant to undercut him. He is completely focused on the fact that these people were
failure with his campaign and has nothing to do with him just to save one time again- and I say it all the time
no collusion. I didn't know the president. There was,
nobody to collude with, so he views that through the prism
his own campaign and his election, not the democratic system and the electoral process that was undermined.
We ran a brilliant campaign and that's why I'm president, then you now it's cool
and turned to answer, and at this point he basically doesn't
say anything anymore. Trump has already made his case as the who is to be believed who's not to be believed.
You can trust, no one, if you, if you take this, where did you get this idea that praise?
tromp trusts me or I trust him. He defends the interests of the United States
America, and I do defend the interests of the russian Federation. Any essentially says you know, there's no proof. We should be guided by facts. Could you name a single fact that would definitively
of the collusion? This is utter nonsense, just like the present recently mentioned, like just listen to your own president. He just denied that we have that. So you now don't take my word for it. Yeah take your own president's worked for
that was really striking, because you know a lot of these encounters are about message and what said in public and what is seen in public and the spectacle of the two of them up. They're, both defending Russia,
an essentially rolling their eyes and calling ridiculous the basis of a federal investigation. That's been legitimized by the entire intelligence community of United States was something right
The final question for the United States will go to Jonathan wellmere from the AP, the second America.
Question. The final american question was from the Associated press reporter, and he basically just put it said President Trumpery directly. Who do you believe just now?
President Putin denied having anything to do with the election. Your parents are twenty. Sixteen! Every! U S! Intelligence agency has concluded that Russia did. What who my first question for you, Sir, is who do you believe? My second question is: would you now, with the whole world, watching tell President Putin, would you denounce what happened between sixteen and which warn him to never do it again? This is kind of a final chance for tromp, say something judgmental at all
Bout, the russian Interference in the US action in front of you, the man who directed that's right. So let me just say that we have two thoughts. You have groups,
that are wondering why the F B, I never took the server any sort of pivots to this idea.
Hillary Clinton's emails. What happened to the survivors of the pakistani gentlemen?
worked on the day and see where the servers them missing. Where are they want?
happened to Hillary Clinton, emails. Thirty three thousand emails gone just gone, I think,
in Russia? They wouldn't begun so easily, and why didn't the F b? I can't access to their servers at the dead sea that were packed into
Why was the f b I told to leave the office of the democratic
your committee. I've been wondering that I've been asking that for
months and months and I've been tweeting it out and calling it out on social media, where
is the server and where he essentially says I ought to know what to believe, and he kind of indicates the he leaned toward put it. I have
President Putin? He just said it's, not Russia
I will say this- I don't see any reason why it would be, but I read
We do want to see the server, but I have. I have
confidence in both parties anything I have confidence in both parties with both parties of Vladimir Putin and finding his intelligence,
officials, and so I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but
I will tell you that President Putin was
extremely strong and powerful,
Denial today emanate its essentially as if he's making excuses for Putin, whose sitting there smoking in looks like feeling very good about himself during what is the reaction in the room at this moment and me? What is it like to be in that room as the President of United States rejects? His own country's version of events
in favour of Russia's this country that we are accusing of having done this. I think that it took everyone's breath away. I mean some of these things are things that we have heard the president's say snippets of before, but it's a very different thing for him to be on foreign soil with the President of Russia and undercutting his head.
Illustration, his whole government. So I think you know there was a lot of looking around at each other like as this is really happening, and what does this actually mean? And at a certain point after that last question was asked Anne. He did not take the side of the United States. It was almost like. The oxygen had been sucked out of the room. It was just very hushed,
do the whole time, I'm watching this honestly undressed wondering why but genuinely. Why would the prisoner to what is to be gained for him and for their needs
aids in seeming to side with Russia over his own country and his own government. At such a sensitive, more
when Russia's role in attacking our free elections is becoming
more and more undeniable. Who gains from that? I think it's really hard to say. I dont believe that this was a well thought out.
I'll planned out reaction that he had to these questions. What we saw was the president being defensive about something that he considers to be an affront to his legitimacy and he could not see pastor
and it was not. I dont think to him at that moment about national security or the standing
United States in the world. It was about him and feeling like he.
Being undermine and under cut and that he could never be as powerful as you wanted to be? He could never have this kind of relationship that he wants to have with Russia. As long as this was hanging over him,
and I think that he feels on some level that any acknowledgement of what has happened, but it somehow means that he is not a legitimate president and so he's not willing to do it. Do you think that many of us are sort of misunderstanding dismal, because I think most of us saw these twelve indictments coming three days before
someone as basically work wiring tromp to finally condemn Russia's meddling in the election, but is what actually happening that the timing of these indictments is causing trumped to be more inclined to defend Putin and less willing to criticise and because of the questions that it raises about his election and twice extend and about his legitimacy. I think that possible. I mean, I think, that part of the message from the indictment on Friday, part of the expectation was almost will. This gives the president a much stronger hand going into these meetings
to basically, you know, throw the document down in front of Putin and say: look, we know this happened. What are we gonna do about it, and then it went some way ease the conversation for him to say were holding you accountable. This is what we ve got. How are we gonna make sure this doesn't happen again, but I think instead, as you say, it almost feels to him like the vices-
getting tighter and be narrative that he doesn't like that. Russia helped him to win. The election is gaining ground, because these indictments are so clear and detailed about how it happened. Then, instead of kind of strengthening his hand, which it would have done for any other american president in this position, I think he felt that it under kind of even further and so he's even less willing to acknowledge that there's anything
We need to hold Russia accountable for a question for president for President, whom thank you I saw. How does this summit we would finally and Jolly well cells. President Putin is
Do you? Does the russian government have any compromise and material on President Trump or his family? He cannot pauses while the translation goes through and laugh
rolled his eyes. Anything I've heard those rumours distinguished colleagues. Let me tell you this: when prison tromp visit
Let's go back, then I didn't even know that he was in Moscow. Nothing oil is difficult to imagine an utter nonsense of a bigger scale in his wealth. Please just disregard these issues and don't think about this anymore again. So at that point, chump jumps back in and the last thing he says is
it couldn't have anything on me. It would have without long ago, and if
anybody watched Peter struck tested.
Over the last couple of days- and I was in Brussels watching it, it was discussed.
To the FBI. It was a disgrace.
To our country, and you would say that was a total witch hunt. Thank you very much.
Everybody. Thank you and I,
I feel, and he walked out
so present, trumps. Final words on this historic day at the end
This summit is that the Mahler investigation, which just indicted twelve of prudence, official
four hacking. The United States election was a total which one
Guess
joy. Thank you very much. Thank you.
We'll be right back
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We mentioned. There is considerable consternation on Capitol Hill about the President's comments. Today, many law makers from both parties were stunned and even angered by what they heard at the Helsinki summit. With some say,
jesting. President Tromp was outfoxed.
Hours after the summit on Monday, both democratic and republican, lawmakers expressed shock over trumps from our own.
They do not have a statement Justin from Senator John Mccain. I want to read it to you in its entirety, because it is a powerful statement and it said her Mccain says today's press conference in
He was one of the most disgraceful performances by an american president. In memory, Cinema came
I want to say no prior present, has ever a based himself more abjectly before a tyrant. Not only did president tromp fail to speak the truth about an adversary, but speaking for America to the world, our present and fail to defend all that makes us, for we are Republic, a free people
dedicated to the cause of liberty at home and abroad, Senate Minority leader, Chuck humor demand.
Congressional hearings about the summit imploring his republican colleagues to join it
for the President of the United States to side with President Putin against american law enforcement. American defence officials. American intelligence agencies is thoughtless. It's dangerous, its weak president, putting himself.
Over our country, but republican leaders refrain from criticising the president directly. Instead, they said they trusted the. U S: government over poor,
Senate Majority Leader Mitch, Mcconnell told reporters that quote
the Russians are not our friends and I have complete confidence in our intelligence community and the findings that they have announced and
in its latest prosecution against a russian national. The FBI has child
a twenty nine year old woman, with carrying out a secret russian effort to influence american politics, including
attempts to broker a meeting between President Trump and President put during the twenty sixteen campaign. The FBI alleges that
at the behest of a senior russian officials, the woman, Maria Outina, made connections.
Groups like the National Rifle Association, to try to us
dear the republican Party toward more problems,
and policy
That's the deal I Michael by sea
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