From the New York Times. I'm Michael Barbara. This the day today, the prey didn't sign a music produce, a lawyer from Moscow the Miss diverse passion and now the poor, Miss of help from the russian gum connecting the dots Donald Trump Juniors Communications last summer in the longest war in the Americans is coming to an end. What happens when thousands of rebel fighters try to reinforce the society as civilians, it's Tuesday July. I'm here pay more carry you! Hey good marquisette youve been repealed

with our colleagues on this meeting between Donald Trump Junior and a russian lawyer. What's the latest that we know about meeting the latest is there There's an email exchange with Donald Trump Junior that is setting up this meeting, which happened in June two thousand and sixteen and in the evening There's one email that indicates that the meeting was set up on the promise that the russian government had damaging information about Hillary Clinton. We ve known before, which Donald Trump Junior admitted to Sunday was that the meeting was to get some kind of damaging information about content? The significance here is that they seemed to be willing to do this meeting because there seem to be in a russian government promise of information which raises the state. So let me just make sure I understand this as Donald Trump Junior prepared for this meeting with a russian. Lawyer. His understanding of this

most of the information that she might be bearing about Hillary Clinton, was that it was from the russian government. Yes, russian officials, Russian, the russian government, that it was not private information that had been obtain by this individual or other Russians and mark what Evidence do we have of this? What's in the emails. You have spoken to a number of people who know the contents of the email or have been described. The emails been described them, and so we feel very comfortable about reporting what the gist of the email, wise and again, the significance is that it was certainly conveyed to the Trump campaign that there was russian government material here. But when ass, your question that you may or may not be lonely allowed to answer who sent the email what are the email was sent by Rob Goldstone, who is

in the music industry his client is someone named Emmon Aguilar of who is a pop singer in Russia? I'm in a glass father, Houris is real estate industry in Russia and knows Donald Trump from the twenty thirteen Miss Universe pageant that Donald Trump held him, ask him so we're we're we're talking about maybe somewhat characteristics with our trump real estate, beauty, pageant and money, correct and trump. And in an article of the sun, appeared in a music video together several years ago, promoting the other Emily. Let's get with your always late, you just another pretty face, I'm really tired of you you're fired, so there is obviously a pass tie, their between the Trump family and the art Lara family, and so the conduit here Rob Goldstone, who we believe, Donald Trump Junior. No,

from that period of time, Goldstone becomes the conduit for the TWAIN, sixteen million and one more dot to connect here. How does this music producer know this russian lawyer? That still a little with unclear took. This lawyer is certainly someone who is well known, Moscow. She is connected to at least the Kremlin and in her the interest she advances in Lahti. In an lawsuits in the United States or in with those of the Kremlin she is a certainly well known individual to the US government, but also back in Moscow as well. This in these emails. Goldstone is arranging for Donald Trump. Junior to meet with his russian lawyer and sing lasting. She has information on Hillary Clinton that comes from the russian government, just to be clear, that's correct! Ok! Now, let's talk about the timing of all. Which you mention its June of twenty. Sixteen at that point, what did we know about Russia's involvement

the election. We certainly now know that the russian government had already been involved in a hack that stole a great deal of Dnc emails. Those emails would become public just weeks later the eve of the democratic convention, we, I should say, do not have any evidence that this damaging information is being discussed in meeting, had anything to do with the hacked emails or the russian government hack that we now know no well about. So is this clearly untoward or is there a world in which this is perfectly all right. Well, assured certainly should be said that campaigns are always interested in research that might damage their important. It's didn't sort of bloodstream of american politics that this is part of the game. You stepped back and think about it. You're talking about potentially accepting information from a foreign government,

whose interests have been not anywhere aligned with the United States in recent years, and so this is not considered a friendly government, certainly to the? U S: government, what's collusion though, ignoring motivations. What would actually amount in this exchange to calling it? Well, that's a good question and it's not something were true the answer at the moment. I I think we'd have to know a lot more about what became of this meeting what information was actually offered, whether anything was done with it. We want to be really careful. Do you take it step by step and not so jumped at any conclusions beyond what we in? Oh, certainly, as I said, some kind of interest on the part of the trunk campaign to get damaging information from Russians. Thanks Mark, ok, thanks guys by On Monday night, a response from Donald Trump Juniors lawyer did not directly address the reporting that here

told the information was coming from the russian government. In my view, the lawyer set of the times reporting it's much ado about nothing but demo Craddock Republican members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, which is investigating the president's ties to Russia now, say they want to hear from Donald Trump Junior about what happened during the meeting with the russian lawyer in tweet, the president's son said he was quote be to work with the committee to pass on what I know we'll be right back. Support for the daily comes from tee in tee presenting the alien is angel of darkness, the all season of the acclaimed Emmy award. Winning television series at the turn of the twentieth century, uncover a dark

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the guerrilla groups before it's very last camps, vanished from the jungles of Colombia and came back. With a message saying that they were interested so that point we basically got the names of two towns one week find on a map and another We couldn't displays, listened the sweetest means place, which is really far way, of course, that the first question people We're asking is why do you, go there. We eventually did find some friendly motor taxi driver, girls who were interested in taking us and we basically we're on the back of the motorcycles for about five hours, starting at dawn, part of the problem. Is that so much of the Columbia countryside, because it's been at war for all these years they ve never been able to pay, governments never been able to go in and just like what he asked bogged down in a lot of these places. So

cars regular taxi just wouldn't be able to get through the mud and the dirt, we got to the ideas and we down, and you could call it a coffee shop it if it was basically somebody's home that was serving some food and we got some breakfast. Blue tired. So like she started to not off and fell asleep and I dont know how long it was after that, but Federico started to deny me and I remembered sort of waking up, and and having a look out the door, and you could see these men and women in military fatigues an Kalashnikov Rifle wandering outside looking for where we were and w those were. Those web hosts greeting you assholes. Do, I guess, with caution Susan fatigues it also, big smiles, they were. They were very interested, not just as much as we were in them, because they don't see allowed outside is outsiders. You don't see a lot of fun

nurse when you're you're, fighting a gorilla battle, so Nick to step back. Why were you visiting this camp when, Did why was this a significant moment for the FARC? It was a huge moment for the FARC and also for the entire country, because for the last fifty two years, this group had been fighting an insurgent battle within Colombia, so this bit not just the end of a war which has gone on for generations here in Colombia, but also it meant that what we were about to see was the end of one of the very last guerrilla groups. In the jungle in Latin America have a tradition which went back to the cuban revolution and shake of our era. Honest when the while Moderns Cuba's Fidel Castro remarks triumphant, adapt

Guerrilla warfare against the Batista regime and one of the things they restoring to see in Latin America during those times Regional even serve other countries too. Was that marks slimness ideology restoring starting to take root political groups, communist parties, even at the level of Students unions were beginning to talk about we apply some of these ideas to our country, and in the case of colombia- You did have a small group of fighters that took up arms and decided. This might be the way to change Colombia not through entering the political system, but come in from the outside, using weapons Joe take pieces of territory and eventually seeing if one day there would be a way to take over the entire country, Why, This

The end of latin american guerrilla movement? The FARC was sort of like one of these like living fast They had somehow managed to escape all that mass extinctions of of the guerrilla movement all throughout Latin America over the years and this place that we were going to go to was one of the last living in camps. It was sort of like a time capsule that we're about to see no game that bomb, although that to you into this can and there was about two hundred fighters who were there living in tents in here Ex were here's CHE Guevara posters on the wall, the kind of thing that you might seen a college dorm room, but indeed earnestness people sitting around reading books of key miss theory reading works and went in classes on these philosophers

No, you see a guy whose sitting round with a guitar singing cave folk songs about the revolution. And now their observe circled around him. What often looks like could have been a summer camp somewhere else for all the military fatigues in the grenades, Guy What the fuck is suitable for some, some extraordinarily gruesome, serious acts of terror and and crime yeah. This was an ideological battle like, I think, very soon into it. It just sort of spread beyond ideology and just into kind of fear and terror for a lot of people. Here in the countryside, the massacres people would be carted off. And then years later there broke

may may not be found in in mass graves, and I think if you ask Colombians what they remember most about this conflict, it's often the kidnappings, because so many people, either themselves were kidnapped or know someone who was kidnapped and I think, really just affected the psyche of of anyone who is here, especially during the Eightys and Ninetys, when for luck was hardest to walk the streets of Bogota, because you didn't know of someone's going to snatch you and what are some examples of that. There's this example. Everywhere and you see actually a lot of examples of some of the worst things that happened within the FARC, from people who were FARC fighters, there's one young woman who I know his name is- is maybe there

When we last Wednesday, I bid you a warm welcome to our mental area, among which has hers. They meet the who used to be a fork brighter aber profile of her for, for the times to kind of show, this path that former foreign fighters are going to have to take now, going back into regular life and she showed me her life story they decades who can t she was kidnapped when she was nine years old by foreign fighters. Basically, she was sitting on the floor of her grandparents house. When two fighters came in to her house, it said that they had some stew for her in their canoe and she joined them in the canoe, Five hours later, when they had produced any one, she knew that she wasn't coming back. They took her deep into the forest where she was brought to a small camp where they had brought a number of other children who they were bring into be child soldiers

these, but I'm gonna. Let model is with elements as she was tired of it before she was twelve how to make landmines. How to hide in trenches and then once she got to sixteen and went through purity, one of the commanders started to take an interest in her. And forced her into a relationship raped her repeatedly until she was actually able to get out of the FARC when she went to visit her father one day back in her home and her father called the police, canals Taku NICE high up when for someone like her, whose

bent basically her whole life and the FARC. I wonder what this transition from guerrilla life to civilian life has been like. Yeah I've been spending a lot of time in the DE mobilization. Cantons were the FARC are now they ve. They left their their camps in the jungle where they ve been fighting and have all gone into places where their their disarming, that are not the jungle but close. Towns and cities and in many cases their car kind experimenting and what it's like to be a civilian they're, getting rid of their own military fatigues, putting on regular clothes slowly, there were handing over their weapons to you and experts doctors and the government also provided them with construction materials to build little homes for themselves, so they could. Can I try out what it was like to live? Not an hammock in it and not in a tent. This was kind of like a stepping stone to getting to what their life of richly was going to these. There wouldn't be quite so much of a culture shock, but fundamentally the idea.

Going and sleeping on a bed being in a town trying to find a job where would be someone's employee. It's like owing to Mars for them or something we ve been talking about the transition of of FARC members, but I wonder what it's like for the wider community of upstanding. The ones who have to absorb these because in some ways it feels like a jail has been opened and people have walked out from behind the bars and they're just entering the community again on mass, and I wonder if regular Colombians are alarmed and and and unhappy about that, Michael. It's like the exact question, which I think everybody is asking here in Colombia. The peace deal has been pretty controversial. The final result goes against all poles and expectations of the peace agreement between the government

last year they had a referendum on it, which actually fail was rejected by colombian voters by law. Than one percentage point Santos, the president brought it to the people, for a yes or a no vote, something he expected was going to pass by small margin. It failed and the reason was for a lot of people. They felt the FARC risk getting off. We too easily in there they are not willing to forgive a terrorist group as they call the part that has killed people that has raped women. And I think there is a sense. If you ask a lot of Colombians of nervousness in sometimes have a sense that peace was being traded for for justice, that people didn't get justice here, but they did get in into the war. The leader of the FARC wants to form a political party, and I think many of the commander's want to get involved. Are they going to have success? I'm not sure

I I've talked to a lot of people in the countryside and I'm not sure how much they ever actually believed in the park as much as they had to believe in the people that have the weapons. The big question is: if you don't have rifles, are people still going to support you and are they going to vote for you? The idea for many Colombians of seeing FARC commanders potentially in their Congress from any is just something they can't imagine it's it's part of what is seen as the reconciliation process. Here you will begin to see fart fighters, people who used to be in military, fatigues and planting mines near near villages going in to try to be the butcher there or the band survivor,

set the garage to fix cars at end. That's going to be a hard sight for a lot of Colombians and there's going to be a lot of FARC fighters, probably won't even say that they were involved in the gorillas fighting and won't talk a lot about their past. But fundamentally, I think that's part of what happens in post civil war societies when they're just trying to get past those years and trying to reconcile everything that happened. People have to be able to kind of live as neighbors together. It's not an easy process. After five decades of fighting. Why would this rebel group ever lay down arms? Did it achieve its goals in the end? Is clearly didn't achieve any other goals. This is not a. Communist society right now they will have a small political organization, but not much chance of actually running this country. I think in a lot of ways the FARC was getting too

I think that there was an understanding among everyone that this war at done a lot of damage to this country, but I think, most importantly, a lot of leadership of the FARC, who is clear, the baby our generation. People born in the nineteen fortys and early nineteenth fifties we're still. To get old. They were living in the jungle every day and I dont think this lifestyle was passing, wanted to live forever n and many were looking for way to retire in some ways. This was in a way easy out. They had a present of Colombia who is really interested in ending this war and was actually willing to offer them a deal were almost everybody from rank and file fighters to most of the leadership was knocking two hundred face in jail time so I think within the FARC, other they wouldn't quite admit this. There was an understanding that they weren't gonna win, but they needed to look for an off ramp

This war Thank you very much. Really, the right things longer and longer That's it for the daily Michael, Barbara Seymour do you avoid

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