This episode includes disturbing language including racial slurs.
They came together to protest the killing of George Floyd — and because what happened to him had echoes in their own experiences. Today, we speak with five protesters about the moments in their lives that brought them onto the streets.
Guests: Donfard Hubbard, 44, from Minneapolis; Rashaad Dinkins, 18, from Minneapolis; Joe Morris, 32, from Tallahassee, Fla.; Azalea Hernandez, 12, from Minneapolis; and Joyce Ladner, 76, from Washington. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily
This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
Sunday morning, I'm sorry you, our cinema House, I was contemplating n. I gotta. I got my car and I just drove
I to North Minneapolis
draw to many, I was in a landed at
the area where Mr Floyd IQ
and when I got out a lotta
and I feel comfortable like ours,
in a surrounded of my old people. There
we are here, we go
we going to try to make the best of a bad situation so we have to chair
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I feel good in this is one of those things like there was so beautiful. You see people come together,
try to have their voices heard
Yeah.
From the New York Times. I'm likeable borrow. This is the daily. Today they came to protest, the death of George Floyd and because his experience spoke to me
oh five protesters on the moments that brought them into the streets it's Friday June. Fifth,
Why
it is downright. However, I am forty four years old. I grew up in
Please I been in Minneapolis since nineteen seventy eight sobered out,
ten years ago I was up at the park is
like eight nine blocks away
Like nine of my friends, we was have this noble
why his nose in Minnesota it was.
Early evening, so it wasn't really dark.
Say you in a car roller someone occurs. Roll up, we scattered
Nobody would have interaction with the police is just one
there is no by ever wanted to have interaction with the police, as everybody scattered and took off
two blocks. I remember well two blocks. I could dwell here.
The Minnesota. We got having enough
can't do where these capsule, by backed up in
done alley economy. As I was trying to go to your so I stopped, and I came back
in each in front of me and asked me always doing out there.
A total lose lose out.
Snowball fight, and it was I
yeah that was noble, firmly gazing,
was getting late. You need to take your black s home and they were any.
Yeah you're me Nigger and was exemplary saddened. He took off his figure that confrontation was over, which is.
So I just get bored and noticing the Mercosur went on.
Juno by a body just
by my dinner.
It was. What was is one of those things that it is sticks? Would you because you
Why did you talk to me like the way he could? You knows any
it was nothing to him to talk to me like that at the time it didn't bother me,
I was the kids I is. I didn't. I didn't know,
the tools were when he said it.
Or so of relief that I can't even get brought home by the police
It in I work for had it been counting now, but I use
work for the city of Minneapolis. At the time
I was on his Conakry, crew
it was early in the morning, so we have taken our morning break and we would
What to a store on our way to the next job site is love. He was driving
so I told him you know, I want to run up in the store and grab me something to drink, and probably some consider some. I don't remember.
I went in a store and grandma,
And I came out, it was a cop out here, you know is not taken of it somewhere,
go back towards the truck. I was right now with my co worker and he stopped me. He stopped means like
What are you doing over my? What I'm doing it came at the store? Is I I need to ask you some questions. You look like some
There was a gun to dismiss the dispute as they are.
Didn't know, bet domestic disputes at work, and I pointed out the truck. Well, I'm a truck.
Coworker. He sees this interaction. You don't get out the truck
come over there, you don't do nothing so mean a copper going back and forth a revised as well
it is the year I e the mighty we're going back a form of. Finally, you guess
All in the rate or whatever he proceeds
you say: you're, not eating those. My id on the ground like here go fish. You know, I'm saying so. I get back in the truck and do asked me what happened. That is the most ignorant thing. A person can ask you, you sat there and watched. So you know what happened.
Basically, as said were, it is. I was somebody else, but why did you get out and confirming his eye?
I don't know, I just thought you guys were talkin. Why would I be talking to the police just randomly coming out of the store? I just think I just think it was a coward for just sitting there and not intercede and when he could have been, anyone want to do that, but it looked up. White people don't want to get involved. He looked. He looked dead at me and this cop sitting there for at least a five
conversation, he looked and then turned away. He didn't want to get involved. I'm not like. I said, I'm not asking you to go over there and we go fight. The car you could have just simply walked out got out. The truck walked over there. What's going on.
But even so I get it back into Turkey. You want was known
I mean, if you want to know, is gonna. You should get out next
name, is Russia Jenkins, I am afraid, Minneapolis Minnesota and I am AIDS
He is old and I may actor director and accosted it
So I work at Mov America.
And the amusement park and side at a ride called fight over America. Five America is a virtual fight. Experience will your feet and all over you experience. Wind missed an assent,
make you feel like you're flurry okay. So this was about twenty eighteen.
Had the working in the mall for about a year is asylum.
The same I like listen to music. If I go to work, if colleagues might be kind of guy
into it so I'd take the bus there can't drive and unhappy on my bumping. I'm ready to go to work, I figure over the fun of it at the time. I think it was double about confidence. Does I think her out? I just came out a thousand: what's bow with day with greed
Cause I was wearing a red shirt that data is five America.
Have a bad that says
my name, and it says the date that I started. So that's how you skin in how you do all that. So there have these back hallways that you can enter through kind of like a secret tunnel. If you will
and a lot of markup stared, either guard or stay inside of it. But at this moment a guard was sitting in front of the door to me getting into the entrance to the tunnel. Ok,
all right, wisely standing here, it's area, no one ever really is here, and he had a white mark actually have white, but
shirts with their badge and learn how stir it he was bound. One is a six feet. He had blue eyes
skin and he was very kind of muscular very built ere. He saw me
and I said hi. How are you-
where you going, I M going to work, I have to conquer, and he says where you work.
And I said five America show in my bag? He said why figure?
call your manager out to escort you to your job
said. I know where my job is. I know I'm going, he said well, I just think for your safety, for
who you are. I think it will be best for your manager to come out, for you
I call my manager and she said she was unable to come out because she has opened a store. I said: ok, what she's currently busy so
she kept come out here. He said. Well, I really would like your manager to be here, and I said I just told you that she can
Call Regina put on speaker, so you can hear her say it yourself, but I have to get to work like my shift starts in about ten fifteen minutes I have to. I have to go
said: ok, I just don't believe you, and so
had to go around the other entrance. The main entrance, that's actually locked, so I had to wait for her.
Managing to see me through the glass and kind of just coming enter an escort me in
and that was what happened. I felt ass. If it,
I suppose it is take every thought about like things that are here
myself with me, was I what was I wearing? What were they acting? I was acting like that to make him
that I was this or
I wrong, but I'm not smiling. I need to do something else that I try to be.
To hear more comfort hammer offer him a fleeting.
Right. But who knows about heaps? It do to make here, ok with me, and I think that one
realised that there is nothing that I really could have done to make him
hey with me. He just kind of has to be ok.
Yeah.
My name's Joe Moors. I am thirty. Two
years old I live in colors Florida. They will tell me
day. Those who know that boy, just
like your daddy,
It's gonna. We're talking about a big issues,
I don't even know how you learn today
He was a man who stand in the church a day. The Bessie could now to be a great that in
The love everybody here you know
love, smile and draining and chewing gum with his favorite thing. The dual use in charge with us on Sundays.
As I grew up at the age of twelve
it was a sad day of my life when I was at charge
I remember
I believe I was on the front row. I was pretty
for grown out so that they wanted to keep me from being ban and travels. I was on the front row of charge and
never forget this.
And ever
man who yeah we get a call to the
charge phone and call on the other line was that
my father had been shot by
by the police in my home town.
And at that point,
we don't know basically was he
alive or dead end
upon our arrival was when, as is as is, is when we saw
Then he was gone,
and it was.
Oh man,
He was lying there.
The way back
He died in the way that the police hand at the situation in
a bullet ahead is, as
his Purty party state and so
Ah,
I don't know what happened
I know that they, I guess the cops.
There was a call. I guess someone called again
going through a time.
He was Razumihin
You know I don't know those drug abuse, alcohol abuse.
And the that that's
The information I have ever done
even to this day with their houses situation so mean that was his last time at home.
Oh man.
My aim is area as in twelve years old- I was
less than a soda.
I was in sixth grade. I
I think I was either ten or eleven and by the way it like, when I say ten or eleven, it kind of sounds like it was just like last year. I am about to be thirteen, so it kind of seems like a long time ago for me
I think it was the woman's march we were marching.
With our signs, and we had pens on and
with any like adults or like our parents, but I was with people and there is a couple older, white men and kind of just walking next to us.
I creeping up next. Worse, I remember spike trying to speed up with are walking, but they came up to me and the people tat was worth and started, calling us the inward they're alive
view and words don't belong here this man, I I think I was curse, scared that they would like that they would like hurt me or my friend or something if I tried to say something back.
I didn't say anything, but one of I don't know exactly remember what one of my friends said, but they did say something. I think they just told the guys to go away. They didn't they kept saying lake
you whatever don't belong here in and we kept walking because it can't really defend ourselves against, like old. They were like tall kind of bigger people. We don't really have the strength, like the body strength to do that, but but that's just one
that I remember well. I think it's because I had a long conversation of my mom. After just things,
happen? He pulled back into my head and that those
so many things that happened in my life until I die and I I just have to move forward. I guess I understood what she was trying to say. I understood that that there's going to be people who don't like me for the wrong reasons
and that as long as I'm not dead, things are gonna, keep happening.
I'm dying to join manner.
Seven six years old and I live in Washington DC. I grew up in segregated, Mississippi,
I don't remember the precise time, but I knew about images launching
You have to understand also that the media was very much sensory, so I bought the had his bird american each day because Nook Lara DIME and read what I could find and about immature
murdered now going on. Twelve years allows eleven soon,
it well, whenever till was matched everyone
was discussing it in it were talking about it.
When I heard about it filled it just a profound sense of fear, just washed over me
This is the first time we knew that the child had been murdered and therefore it could happen to us. Don't it could happen in me. I specially felt that it could happen to my brother. I expected that
Once the rest, his murderers and my young men they will
send them to jail, because I knew
Why do you didn't get arrested for killing people? Butter
I don't know. Maybe it was because I thought this is the boy and then
kill him there.
This is to them dragging him from his home and so much to my young sense of hope that people will be punished for what they did. I weren't
and so what I do is take a lot of that anger about
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to exonerate. Was there on a larger scale,.
I see a parallel between what the young kids are seeing and feeling about this, and I think.
They understand as much as I did. That George Glory is an adult form, but it too.
Babies murdered, I believe the reason some initial,
who protesting against this, is that.
The images of the world you know, have gone mad.
Gone unpunished, and this was the straw that broke the camel's back.
I'll, be right back
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I've made a sign that says black lives matter. I've made another sign, has the power, fist and different shades of skin colors to show that everybody is equal? I like the outlet everything in black cuz. I feel like it makes everything pop more, but I
Been doing skin color, psych tear in Brown and a bunch of other shades?
I was looking at the mood and looking at the news unloaded at the news in and then
on Saturday got even worse and worse, and I used to tell me what I see you can't tell me nothing. I know what I see as seen there may he resisted arrest. People do nothing
and didn't know people out there told you the move
didn't move in
Three sector- and they too have that's wise different outcomes.
Today voted a rally, but did I thought to myself back a bit me
that the out of the house with my friend the re, sent a tax to the group
protests that was going on. I may well, oh, my God
busy I gotta to get back out there.
When was first. I think I just want to the corner and had my sign.
Am I sign up like ours is my mom and her friends
That I wouldn't actually there is, there is a march, but I didn't go,
the way down over a lay down those like it's like five miles, and I do not have the right to choose and cause. I don't know that I was gonna, be marching
I was wearing bands with no socks on watch
I would rather to be wearing tennis shoes? I still did walk like like four miles
on the other, there are close, but I didn't get blisters have fat feet as I got blisters like for you up.
Aside. Let us alone
I'm shy, but we we're leaving a margin of over a thousand people per the.
Tallahassee has
as everyone like this is this is this is like they hear protests in Ferguson. When my brown to the protests in Baltimore-
Freddie Gregg got their protests in New York, where air gardener got kids
who's been like this orders otherwise
you could add a little bit onto the story. Where's that clear cut UK clear cut this book. You Kate, clear, cut this one
we are going through neighborhoods. It was such a unique demonstration.
Of unity. We had people come
I join in the march. They was labour restaurants
join in the march, the other.
We did over twelve miles as if we were going on. I am part of I'm I'm I'm excited too.
The margin to play my role in history and until today
even though I thought rubber bullets for like Little BB gun thing so huge they like their ginormous, so like a BB gun or just a little balls, but these things it looks like it's like the shape of like a bullet.
But it's a rubber on most of it and then in the end, its plastic. I don't want to compare to it. It was like maybe like half of a phone. I saw one in person. It was
ST yeah and I know someone who got hit in the lip and their work was dry. So, like half the face, I can't do anything but be black. I can wash off. I can't take it away
So let me why out of the house and walking into work, if you feel threatened by that exists, since that is not my problem is not mine
place to try to change you and try to color
or if you a depressing that I'm gonna be. You can have to do that for yourselves and if you're willing to do that for yourself- and I applaud you measure that will I hope you get to a place where you can was giving help these people she protest. I love it. I turn already dish. Listen, I got others tobacco. We watch. I come home every day, I'll be watching this stuff.
Morning noon and night. On a wicked, I watched a come off work and wasn't right now, I'm talking to you. What do you desire? I got devices on those is not what was important is alert seen all these people come together in a protest, and now I am proud of the people when they lose no. Do I care? No, that's part of this part of the protests. You're not gonna, get people's attention. If you do really poachers is like you know, you ve been people's attention when you start destroy stuff, ok, ordinary destroy! So now we ve got our attention. Now. How do we started from distortions that ok, we got you take
This feels different because there are people out there demonstrating that we ve never seen before the old man and marches protests before I do think this was
What does moment that caused things to be different.
When I'm protests- and I am now also protests and for my father's death at the hands of of law enforcement
make sure that our future is much brighter. We don't
Have to be fearful of traffic starts will have to be fearful because we see a car
That's what I'm margin for so that
Other young men in this world can see their father and is so unfortunate
the daughter of of George Floor.
She saw my shoes, you know you grow up to live in it. I was gonna. Take
go to the
and daughter, large and my father dowered dancing with same Whitman.
Of my dad actually used to come to the parent large
what I had large out our papa
see here man he what surprised me you weren't they
nothing of it. You know I my bears is gonna to come, but time
You know he's out out at the time
but before you I mean it was such a great experience. You know that address
more people to understand that is. Is it
hey, you must have lower pay, killed him
that was, it
Forty six love forty four I've been no rats, possibly several times
like mail in America, and it is one of these things tat I can. I can relate to where it is. Mass family got two boys, my youngest son, starting out his son is twenty four. Now the conversation I have my keys is about. Is you always gotta be careful when you?
Interactive Zweifel. Why do I got to keep having this conversation? Do I wish I didn't have to have that conversation yeah, but that's not the world. So that's why I keep having this conversation with my kid.
Because I don't want nothing didn't happen to him. I think that it is about to get justice for George Void
to try to make one.
Thing in the world there, like the people, have been trying for years,
I don't think it's fun any better, so I feel like right now we're we're trying to draw a line thoughtlessness.
I'm going back to the causes
about me. No more, that's why I want people to know it's not about me. No more. My son he's going to he's thirteen he's going to be an adult one day.
Do we gotta live like this is all I know you shouldn't have to
WWW Keys will excuse happened there like this, it they're all life. No, they should have to
we got to go ahead March everyday or go downtown and send it for the Seahawks. Are they change these laws on the books? Hey, I'm with it. I got time I got time
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You need to nerdy on Thursday George
Lloyd was honoured at a memorial service in Minneapolis that was attended by hundreds of grieving friends, family law makers and community members. I want us to not sit here and act like we had a funeral on Skid George fly should not be among the deceased. He did not die of common health condition. He died of a common approach.
Can criminal justice malfunction speakers, including Reverend AL sharply, said that Floyd staff at the hands of many apple S, police officers would not be forgotten in this amazing every word you go and see people hardy cling to him. They wanted to be around him ill George. He was like.
General everyday. He walks outside it be alot of people wanting to greet him. I wanted to help fight with him. During the surface fleets brother following
remembered sharing banana and many sandwiches with him as a child and described him as a cherished a figure in the community when he spoke the George they feel like they would the president, because that I made to feel everybody won't just as we want justice, the George he's gonna get it he's, gonna get it
Yeah
That's
for the daily. I might come about see you on Monday.
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