Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine the Dutch colony of New Orange.
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Your listening till the dollar preserved by american history, podcast orange weak. I David Anthony, restoring for american history to my friend, Gareth Reynolds, who has no idea what the topic is going to be about here now took off her well about the fact that you you ve cut, you ve tried
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Don't worry about it. It's early. We welcome the trees, early, english sea captain and explore Henry hudson was hired by the dutch east. India company to finding north east passes
to asia, still still sort of looking for the passages he was turning back by ice turbines and the atlantic arctic remain like he was that there are things like ours
This is far too much ice, there's no way so eternal,
look at all the bloody eyes. Here we go on a second attempt. He sailed west to sergei northwest passage. Ok,
He was soon exploring the is that in lieu of waiting for it to melt, I don't think we should wait for it to melt. Ok, he was soon exploring the waters off the east coast of north America. Ok
his first landfall was at newfoundland
under these. Second at cape cod lovelock, where they keep the cod yeah, the super cod. They have cakes double those over they ve capes. Hudson thought. The passage to the pacific ocean was between these saint Luke saint lawrence, river and chesapeake bay, which has of course completely insane
right. Ok, I just wanted to be up. He sailed to the bay and then went northward. He discovered delaware bay and went up river. Sure, but there was no pacific ocean
they're. Well, you may even the delaware river is boring itself. He then entered the narrows into the upper new york bay. Ok, he had
no idea version o had already discovered the narrows and fifteen twenty four, so he rediscovered them mean that feels good
anticipation award yeah. You, like, I found it look at
ivory, discovered it itself up river, which would become the hudson river named after him. Ok grant accrues up sure, so we did
something he made it to where troy new york is today and then had to turn around it got to show clearly no passivity. Ok said when he got back to the netherlands. He said he found a cool place with cool people who would trade stuff? Is that ok, my description of a man? Ok, sure, ok, that's nothing else, lays with cool people who dredged sure so
The dutch were funding expeditions to america. Ok, surveys, we're done and there was trading with the native peeps. Ok again, I feel like that's here, be wrangling out. No, that's the roots actually says he advised that they were saying. Peeps is peeps. Sixteen hundred common vernacular attack different dutch trading companies started fighting over different areas:
dutch government had to begin regulating the area. Ok, let it coming to be like a hey: you can go there, you go there you that years, parcelling it up; sworder, ok, but
there's just different areas to trade with a category four, the trapper whenever he got roquat trap trade, mostly neither trading sure, but some trapping scientist wrangling.
Leaving aside driving legacy of you always need aside trap this. If Europe, if europe well, you see a beaver, you like I gotta make
Well, obviously, I also trap and I'll trade.
At any rate as well. The dutch depended on native americans to capture skin and deliver pelts to them. Ok, so maybe not chemistry church!
I think right. So there really again I mean it's just another case of people come here being like you, do it and then being like, I did a bunch of static. Well then, they're, like he's taking my job, yeah yeah.
This led to be built along this lead to fighting between tribes over who would trade with the dutch.
Since these are the tribes are now fighting over who ok, so we ve got a real, then
diagram going on in sixteen fifty eight, the mohawks conquered the the mohicans.
and their, and then they had a monopoly on the fur trade through much in the ark the who did the bow homo a cat. They basically kicked the share them mohicans to to,
get monopoly well, but did they have one of theirs
and under a waterfall promising to find someone that I dont think. Ok, that's fair! You made a good. I will find you
company. I will find you know. I got their per he's really going crazy, stop
days off in your feet, he's eating my pants he's eating your pants.
He also be party or feed. This is why
on the rascally and alive seal. No, it's gotten over their own country
policy. What was the land had to be purchased from indigenous peoples of the dutch east india company? Their policy was that you actually had to buy their while. I love was fair as much as there are like. We just don't want to deal with a bunch of bullshit. Just by it. We got the cash and then we'll have the rights to it. It sort of like how
there was they set back in like the 80s, robin williams like after you to set the runway as manager would come up to you and hand you a check for fifty dollars and sake.
Thanks ravages, but a joke off you that, but the two different cultures at such different idea
as of ownership and land, that they basically didn't understand what the other group was talking about. Eight good, the native americans, would sell it and then show up as part of their seasonal migration, and you know pitch their tents again, a k immediately back
I like that that you give money to go. The earliest dutch settlement was built around sixteen thirteen. It was a few small huts along the hudson for a hut, so the
nasa was built. Another fort was built in one thousand six hundred and seventeen where albany is now and in one thousand six hundred and twenty four.
The netherlands became a province of the dutch republic, ok as as it is still today, new netherlands, yet it remains to new netherlands. I don't know if I just
There are other things I would is sound. You know our main is in the belief. Tat is new new. Never never let her ok,
More colonies have suffered there. Yes, I have someone not yet little
yes, yes, icicles yeahs
hard derive cause us shells tulips taco tools.
yeah. He lives taco tulips. Yes, more colonists arrive in sixteen twenty five. Forty five colonists came on three ships named horse cow and sheep, so on those ships or a hundred three horse on cowed pigs on each one of the authors
wait like split up. They had like a pig boat, a horse boat, nikobob, very literal shirt, so they
literally wherever they named, as I'm not sure if they put all the horses on the horse boat or if we pull they better, what they had better.
Fiji sheer laziness having it. They don't have a pig boat boy,
Cows- really don't like these horses
the pigs don't know. What to do
rapturous backed a mean that there are very, very, very direct, the dutch sure, yeah
What do you recall the ship averting laws on the horse, but about the ship with brilliant,
cows to cows. How about the sheep boat party yacht.
That's gotta, cheap! Ok, I rode away the capital of the many accidents there. Even why'd. You know it's great. As I don't know, I don't I'm not sure I approached to listen but mother, but can think he told no
We'll do irish yeah, I'm just trying to think of what my friends and new netherlands sound like right, right, berry and Larry yeah, the brothers yeah, the capital of the province, was moved in sixteen twenty six, because the current location had a mosquito infant infestation in the summer of fun. He moved it to what is today known as man at this led to the well known purchase of manhattan from native americans by the dutch
that's like a famous story where there are like whatever twelve bucks and they a gap. We all share the land began by land than hilarious thing right. I killed well, I think what
matters as they learned a lesson. Thank you. Welcome the commerce betcha fort Amsterdam was built at these southern tip and they colony grew there, which was called the man had toes.
Ok, a sort of like the marks brother ring of the city
there's a man had out. I wish it was still call manhattoes manhattoes, its men had and then toes
and then the word toes out. That's all one, but manhattan hat and toes manhattoes show
so. This became known as the port city of new amsterdam and it was a major port for trade K and then things turn to shit between the dutch in some
It's all honest was murdered, which was revenge for him. Killing
indians years before increasing there's a much going on up. Otherwise, when I'm shocked that it's taken, this turn leah. I thought this would be the
These are the people who work at yeah. I thought this is gonna, be informational ports to think we find another happy story. Yeah the american indians
all. This is going on, the english were arriving and they were common in droves. The reason somebody English came was because of religion and that's what drove their quest to find new land. The dutch were there for cash, which meant fewer them, we're coming
Why? What is? How does it get coming here? Make you closer to god? It was generally wherever another fleeing relatively little. Ok! That's! So they were.
and do their own thing and said that means they. Billing I'd rather die than live with. You come on get on the cow get on cow boys where's. The dutch were like hey, you wanna work in america and maybe gather beaver pelts from
the americans, who might want to kill you in there. I don't want to do right. Ok, that's less!
It's I'm not sell in it. I think as well. Maybe some dutch guys would now my guess is they sold and harder? They. You started
ring and settling across the river from new amsterdam a package. What would
jesse, so they were in jersey, the dutch we're getting
hurried and built a defence a wall and what will become known as wall street
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Dutch settlers didn't have much contact, but as more and more english came, they had more and more diplomatic contacts to deal with territorial disputes.
Territorial disputes between them and think that dutch yeah, because the fuckin english interim targets they like to get their tells by the pull early one.
The the english formed the new england confederation in sixteen forty three, which was a military and political alliance of english colonies. Mass Jesus Plymouth
get a new haven, every horrible being the dutch watching
More and more, and then I think, they're starting to form some kind of alliance, yeah, there's a thing going on with
fidget elevators uniforms. They now have you know so many that they have uniforms. No one has no. We don't want any way, regardless of where they agree. I can't
just go away now, don't don't show.
He's not making a noise. The connecticut had originally been dutch rights was settled by the dutch sure
But it was busily assimilated because somebody English moved in dutch does have have connecticut spot great. They both continue to acquire land from native americans, either by purchase, killing or just smallpox surest and everybody. Those three. That's that's! Actually the three major raise people's homes in america funded smallpox.
Good! Let's fun! In sixty fifty two cornelius dont, you wish their name would come back. I hid still around
the little, but it should have more cornelius van work over maximilian to let's get going. Let's get caught
on these names, so work of and talk to enact chiefs into selling him part of long island k about a thousand acres for quote six shirts, two pairs of shoes, six pair of socks, six axes, six hatchets six knives to Caesar.
and two comes? It's a lot of accessories. Fer, a thousand acres
not enough accessories, I mean becomes a pretty sweet becomes a great the hat. There had hatchets andy acts, and that's why you got new shirts. You got new. Sixty shirts could have gotten a comb,
she shoes its I'm picturing, like you know, you d just hear saturday night fever playing. Why picturing a native
walking around with buckle shoes right, which is tremendous right. How did you get that
was. I gave away everything of eyes now
they later, the niagara realised that the dutch wanted them to
Leave the area they just sold, so they reopen negotiations. Ok again, they were like yeah, you can have. You can have this fur and then you give us stuff because they didn't. They didn't really think you can
on lambs there, like I gimme a step for the land, the native americans here didn't brought. You can actually oh right land right, which is actually a very reasonable thing:
a great way to handle it. I would agree so they reopen negotiations and got more stuff: six coats,
six kettles authority is not a good. Less. Six acts is bigger than the hatchet
six, more hatchets, six small, looking glasses, twelve knives and twelve combs boom. Let's fourteen
comes there. They can't get the calm technology down. I'll. Tell you what right now you you roll went to america this time. First, I've ever been, there see come from Portugal and you see a bunch of niagara with some sweet ass hair.
a super wealth. Is there a veto sassoon around here, you guys like unbelievable
what is your secret?
We are the first native american salon, so the niagara commonly teepees moved staten island, ok language, so they got the wrong with you.
But that that mega coming back after that negotiation, let me just like is where they still
just one wagon, it still just the one. Its tremendous three have anymore combs
Hooray three
later there were eleven houses on the land rights on this land. They built eleven houses. The dutch would
they were by land and they tried to build up a little place. That could be a village, ok, but
all the people in those Levin houses were fighting with each other. Over quote: allegations of fence stealing and disputes over meadows. Put us
still like. Actually stealing it fell sailing each other's friends.
so funny that a small area like you're gonna get caught. It's called then stealing yeah, I understood, but I
Maybe that was sort of like, like you know,
changing the amount of land you have overnight or something like moving offence or something like that. I will be stealing offensive. You move offence, stealing offences moving offence, but still stealing the view move over to your property. It still an offence. Can I can I gang so clearly settling is high.
Was. The point is that the english keep coming by the early sixties, sixties, thirteen english towns wrong island compared to just five dutch town k? That's not good right was more in times more functions.
Well, I mean it's getting along sitting little close to home, let it really was, and then word of the duchess troubles with native americans had spread and that affected the west india company stock. Ok, it plummeted. It was now at an all time, low,
and marched sixty sixty trousers second was put on the throne of england. He's your favorite ease
but my favorite, but he loved having sex with lots of women having lavish parties, and there are tons of
candles his cribs as an unbelievable, all, my god, the best cribs ever just so
That's why I put things in this
my party this
while the tory I'm just because you know you gotta have a so. The problem is that of mysticism parties and scandals, cost tons of money.
Kay and soon english was pushing to drive the dutch out of the colonial american colonial trade too, makes an extra fuckin scratch the weight who
who is doing that english? Ok, we're doing that, the dutch, the right charlie.
Is no longer just about religion? No trials seconds younger brother, the duke of york, sure set up a bunch of companies to directly compete with the dutch west, india company and the duke gathered info about the dutch english tensions along the border of new netherlands.
so your favorite vacations about love it there in graves summers I spent so great, just the best mosquitos
best giving eaten alive, but we do know is that it was about ever ye d is about friends near simpler types. Here you know just having a little fun with your buddies province.
Smallpox and some native americans have in a hot dog on the grill, simple dives in graves and new amsterdam, a group of magistrates raised the english flag over the town and declared it would be quote henceforth
be subject only to the laws of our nation and the republic of england. That's tough than their open jail that style. That's tough, where they live
our core. On that let right away like our ilo effect. By now I gotta be backed by staff. We will now
english hair out, but we put the flag up so
so the governor of connecticut began pushing for english towns on long island to be brought under the authority of connecticut, ok you're. Here they know it's amazing. He set connecticut agents to stir up support of the idea and graves and where they quote
caused a great hubbub wow, so hubbub was around back on what is a hubbub assist like it? I know what it is, but what the hell is it with a customer, jewish they went. The hub was bobbing o literally yeah. I mean I'm sure you look at our budget. Now is not a good time. No, it's not.
the english downs, then banded, together with an adventure named John scott as their president. Ok, he then tried to. He was just like is an adventure, that's all it's out of what is now the president just an adventure. I was
president of a bunch of english towns. On long share. You then tried to force the dutch towns on long island to also be under control, but they were not down with that idea. The dutch west any accompanied told their man and control to hold the line and stop the english.
cover ok, but he knew the leader there. The governor knew he had no chance and instead signed a one year, truce with Scott. The alternative was quote an inevitable surprise and capture of all the dutch villages on long island. Ok,
so they soldiers I can come and strong right, but for a year for a year there, the others treat this truth for a year for a year and then, who knows best, they knew nothing. Netherlands disintegrating charles. The second took advantage of the situation on august, twenty seventh for english ships entered new amsterdam's harbour.
with two thousand men aboard and demanded to surrender, and everyone was like a school weaken the surrendered that quickly
the people there are, but having so many problems with native americans, the english and getting zero from the
such and also new. Amsterdam was pretty much totally defenceless that I just saw the party boats that are like mrs Alvarez as Charles. The second was just coming up an event like
people to people got here. Clubs do
they can shut off, there's living. I hadn't fifty dutch soldiers and there's two thousand english soldiers. So there too just got there. There are like tunafish debt sellers who could find
there were so tired or from the coverlet frazier. Now what are we who are zero russia fisher and having new netherlands under the duke of york,
trawl was going to make him some bank. Ok, here's account or what was called back. Then I am sure his money man, estimated he could bring in between
ten and thirty thousand pounds a year in rents in customs duties, cakes and second green yeah in getting pretty sweet. Tesla. The dutch governor stuff
ascent was sent a note by the english in which they guaranteed quote every man in his estate life in liberty. If new,
surrendered, so a saint everybody gets hidden in, kicked back in their own shit, we're not going to cause any trouble
They get a gun to retain what they have as long as they are right. Of course, of course, that's fair and true stuyvesant took the letter and ripped it up, but where do the letter was out and a group of angry workmen and magistrates marched to his office and made him pick up the pieces out of the trash assent
but back together and re read it out and why? What is the eight years old currency, humiliating? It's like an
you're older lost retainer at a birthday party nights, effective, dig in the garbage, get it until you have the garbage and put it together like a lot of time in charge, either got are sometimes stuyvesant was pretty much now come,
it was our any negotiated for with english for religious freedom under english rule, and then he turned over new amsterdam, sadly flag us down new flags up new flag them,
english taxis command the little black ones to away from night
around here, you precise and football games, there's a problem with guys. Fighting,
kebab shops open everywhere, shifty they just come up, and there, like your teeth. All
that shooters rock there were now you're alive.
to stay
so almost the minute that stuyvesant turned over new amsterdam
English said afford. Amsterdam was now named for James and fort orange was now Albany millions.
Damn and new netherlands were now both called at new york here. So that is that, when that happened quickly after like almost instantly, I get so different,
You bet you guys, maybe pick it up out of the trash to remember that the chair,
We welcome the new york- that's not gonna! Stick up! If I can make it here,
The transit you can make it. Why? That's all I have
Well, that's a useless saying! No! If I can make it here, you can work
nothing, it's useless. You know what now
I work at it and if you ve ever gonna bring it back. I listen to me if I can
may get here and then it's like a pregnant parts like if, like a fill it in, I think it makes quite clear derivative sense caught him open oak, dr guys,
no glamour. The transition was fairly com and new amsterdam and the hudson river valleys, not so much along the delaware river there, the english
a tear, pillaging looting and burning houses, many of them
He's dead sailors were then sold into slavery, amnesia god. Every action
They are dead, settler and the next day, your slave and Virginia, that we sign that.
She read the letter better. The dutch struck back, sending a fleet up the teams river and burned three british ships and then toad away, the royal charles, which was the pride of his men.
these navy. That's why prejudicial that's? Why several toy of all of them? Charles? The second then settled for a peace treaty with the dutch and the hand, job
a handy in sixteen sixty seven, a treaty was signed, ending the second anglo dutch war. The dutch gave away any rights to new
other lynn, in exchange for a nice piece of dutch guinea. Now the duke of york, pretty much total control of new york. His charter gave him personal title to all of its quotes: lands, islands, soils, rivers, harbours, minds, minerals, quarries, woods, marshes, waters, legs, fishings, hogging, hunting and following while there is definitely some cross over. There is just covering a lot a basis.
The end quote: full and absolute power and authority to correct, punish, pardon, govern and rule its inhabitants. So he is a superpower. That's a fucking, crazy shit right dilemma.
That's what every villain in a movie super beer movies after yet he got it. He has all that he's fucking disguise what we this with this, the first bawler.
Ok land holders were now considered his tenants and had to pay em seduce. You were like ireland. This land now is like and rent. No, it's a marsh and there's filings mine
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is, but there are also the articles of capitulation. These basically gave the dutch the right to live as duchess. They wanted k not having to choose
so some of the dutch living there seemed to be okay with it, but Julie. The very wealthy dutch people in new york began to do pretty well. Colonel lovelace took over so now he's running the show for the english K trade increased,
He started the verse postal service during the colonies and started merkin mercantile exchange. You built a tavern which he connected with a doorway directly into the
municipal court, woe right! That's a fun backstage
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every says there should be a think.
Were lay said to have one
the weird, so the rich dutch guys we're getting richer?
and one even became mare, but the common dutch guy in the city was not is down with what was happening with English. Ok nor worth
people outside of new amsterdam in villages to the north and east manhattan. Their people were angry at the new taxes and other bullshit. They fought with tax collectors. They fought with english troops, who the so their dutch colonists and the english would force them
Two to have soldiers live with them that we want to build a barrack, so fear a dutch guy and now like a foreign exe,
ain't student also takes up the soldier. Jimmy
living with you all right? I'm excited to be our houseguest. How is everyone fuck you? What's virginia, then you fuckin shit backwards. My bed.
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thereby alive get out of here by lave lave boy. So that's a lot where there was almost exact reenactment what it was like gloom of the dutch soldier. Oh, they wouldn't touch soldiers. I'm sorry, english! Thank the dutch house right. So this led to a lot attention and then writing between troops and said
but the people. The dutch were most man. It's like riot, the home game. Yet, where you writing, your house can imagine going
on the streets in writing with the soldier and that coming on me like.
where you and I was just going to have a little more milk- I don't wanna put you guys feared it was with no, no, no you through,
my mother. I know- and I am again
is that, first of all macro. First of all for the again to be clear and bring the brick, and I was not aiming for
Ok, you know I'd, I well, but you also have a new picture. You put your boo right on my throat,
it is my earnest spit spirit my face so that we do the timescale smell catch, a dutch tradition, yeah skype smells good god, I'm through
but I got a bad turn and you can't this my own image, you manage the brick in the night, the people a day.
really mad at where the other dutch, the rich ones, who are collaborating with english manhattan and getting very, very rich. Meanwhile, Charles the second was getting ready for another war, digital trance and together they were gonna fight. The dutch they
is needed, a reason for the fighting start and soon to ships english in dutch clashed and the english channel, and within days they were war again and
A heavily armed dutch squadron was headed for america to raid english and french holdings kay the dutch recaptured new york
in august? Sixteen seventy three with a fleet of twenty one ships, new amsterdam, again led by vice admiral cornelius, evertsen known as keys the devil, it sure shakespeare shared known his gaze, the devil here well keep going a captain, anthony cove, landed in manhattan with six hundred men and marched down broadway taking possession
of the fort k? He was cheered on by the dutch colonists. No one, not one shot was fired. The english
and in charge said they had no chance, because quote the enemy is in
Our bowels proof is that, can we too? Can they take that back
he's in my shit part, I think you say actually dutch are in
My inner shift cavern, no, no, don't keep defining locked up
defining play god with words? Yes right, we understand the dutch are imposing upon us greatly.
my shit, pops up, saying your shit part or your shit. Bribes, relating about your shit, I never said pipe.
Well, that would have been a good one to use as well. I father taught me it's not a pipe theirs.
where to go along with that. What did your father do? I did have to go to a doctor right, I'm moving on this to say
you can't water, you alone with bowels, is correct.
I should have gone what I said as moving on. I should vote whether staggered.
Anyway. There's lots of dutch here know that, despite the invasions very quick and painless success, captain cove ordered one of his men executed for her report.
performance LAO, that's how you do it the rest step. Up
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renamed the city new orange back, which reflected the installation of william of orange as lord lieutenant of holland. In sixteen seventy two I was gonna guess his favorite
The I and the entire colony was once again renamed new netherlands k for james was now fort. William
Hendrick also legitimately really enjoyed share. Captain call was made governor general.
and then evertsen sailed off to attack newfoundland anthony coal was now the highest authority in the city. A k calls a thirty year old career military man of noble dutch ancestry, there's no portraits of coal that exists, so we have no idea what they look like. They hated the pop rats. He hated the pops
the population of the orange at that time was about twenty five hundred people about seventy percent of who were dutch and wanted to go back to life under dutch rule, so called confiscated property of leading english officials and merchants
Lovelace had been away at the time, so he came back and he was like an and then an for, of course he's a moron right. They just
jack sparrow returned from out, and the regions click the motive
Lot of wooden shoes and what not.
I now come to jail
This way, that's where
that's why I shouldn't comeback: put issues on our agenda at first, but on the shoes, the duke, but on the clubs,
closer at seven, my walk to the initial. I lost my access, the seven my walk to jail. Ok, that since we have just heard the clause on for the hawaiian, I see it as huge walk backwards. Ok,.
This is of our terrible's in my bottles. Guys were bad at an earlier, this so called thrown in jail and then and then shipped him back to england and the duke of york, or moved him from service and then charles, the second through lovelace into present. Ok, he p p that do not
great for him right. The city council, which were council, which was a hold over from the original dutch control, still exists
as a civilian government like english, never got K so called quickly made them submit to his work
using intimidation and threat of expulsion called turn
the council into men, who would do his bidding and began to rule as a dictator. Ok, interesting, easy to actually various acre but because called add not been legitimately appointed by the government of the netherlands. He avoided discussing his authority in despatches home so need timey right leaving home. He wouldn t
a sign it like. I am governor acting governor. What he would have goes to is all right. That's all he bade me told me in steady hit is requests for additional men supply
and funds by having everything come from the city council. So he's up just head, like a p o box
So you guys that were riding it asking for staff and he be legato, I'm just a guy here, but they they want stuff
right, so he is just putting off like it's them, but it's actually him the right regulatory one of calls biggest actions was to bring ngos residents of the city. Under his total control, many were expelled from the city.
all the ones who remained were suspected of espionage, interrogated and then torture cut. What stuff called brought back math
of torture that had not been scenes now vanish. Inquisition. Oh now, who now add
I think we're turn bad. It's weird we're in fifteen minutes ago,
trading scheme.
shake position so urgent technique to use things like the wooden horse, which involves seeding victims on
triangular saw horses and weighing them down in weighing down each of their legs. Wait, wait
where you put him on a sawhorse than you wait on their legs, so basically a basically you're just slowly cutting that I mean, I think, you're by figure splitting splitting them. We are definitely not doing well. Your wish boning yeah you're kind of wishbone in a brow. Okay- and this is torture- wasn't just-
The english dutch citizens of new orange, who associated with the quote english spies, were also tortured good. He would also tortures own soldiers
as a loose cannon. We will see a jerk like how could you ever call this person your best friend, and I could not. He would drill them relentlessly march them through the city at each sunrise and each sunset call that a unique idea of justice. Ok, when one man chance another man to a dual, the second guy refused, because dueling was illegal K. Well, so called sense. The guy who made the challenge.
To run the gauntlet which was done by soldiers. I assume a gala wisdom by soldiers, but doesn't even mean the way you know you running you fucking, oh just like the the beaten, what they call it. The flogging yeah mean, I think, there's ways to get just hit or you could get your options. Maybe stand
The gun, other guy who turned down the dual because it was illegal, was sentence
to the wooden horse. For refusing, oh, my god,
Well, that's illegal too.
The one on the wooden horse get on the wooden horse through the guys. I thought, you'd think your voices I now get on the wooden horse. There we make a wish tie called had all the buildings.
the street next to fort William hundred demolished clear space for a fire rage for cannons.
This is evidence that deny cover to any possible english invaders, which so that's all just touch. It lit a fuckin buildings right. This city's rise wiped out a whole street raised here,
all. The forty kit vacation surrounding city, most of which were made out of earth and would reinforce, was stone. Should this all made says because the dutch were still at war with england, but the city cannot affording any of this any quickly banker.
New orange, oh good. Neither in the new red,
the city is Adam money, but he continued, but who can tell us?
by finding this. Is America brow what we print? He searched financing his construction with quote forced loans,
Forest alone sound like whenever bowering it
I want to give it to you know it's already happening, ok
This is why I have no we're just borrowing it now. I will pay back at another time when we get about we get whatever stockings roland envelope. Boccaccio check you I'll, never see again right,
no they're, just so they're, just taking money from rich people right
So why are you take a? U cologne us a little bit more though I don't have a year think you can.
Beat the shit out of him. Why? Let's take all, is nice and protect them money? Take the money, not we're. Gonna beat the shit out of good we're good will. Now we like to do it. Stop saying we're good, stop, saying anything.
The city also rely on regional and trans atlantic trade. It was a port city, so security measures-
like closing the city gates after dark and forcing people have passports to enter an exit. Basically strangled new oranges account. What did a passport look like that? You know I just go.
just not a leaf or a piece of work. Leah, fuckin, crazy, looks like you
Ah, you are in australia this year. I edges thing always met
Gas guy just day quite a traveller, archer
baxter dirty tricks.
satchel nobody pact,
zat euphoria. He also wanted neighbouring communities to be a part of new,
berlin and settlements in new jersey, brooklyn long island, harlem the bronx and has
river all had to pledge allegiance to prince William, the third lord, most it a not when english vague villages ears
the air? Is my guy allegiance or iguana dagger yards
areas of us, zoos, dutch, I've, gotta
football game paused upstairs this dutch yeah I've azure tulips tool at sea. Talking about, I get actor combine to whatever his name is
best he's. My guy so an english villages,
An oyster bay among island refused call sent armed soldiers to harass them.
And when they persisted instead
why not? He launched a fleet to attack them good, but the
fleet was met by an alliance of colonial forces from plymouth, connecticut, rhode, island and massachusetts bay.
and the english colonists we're not going to let him attack their people in the villages. He had met his match and cold lost the battle of long island sound that, despite the horror there are living under called subjects, never moved against him than ever tried to stop him. They had not antithesis.
It martial law when they saw their dutch soldiers coming to retake the city, and they now seem paralyzed by what was happening. Basically, there being ruled by a fuckin lunatic and anyone who picked spoke against and was tortured or banished
but the soldier weird time we're not being paid.
And they were being overworked and defiance and killed grow amongst the troops. Ok,
Instead of paying them or easing their workload called attempted to create a secret police to stamp out in support of that month,
yeah, like what you like secrets on secrets, are right. Well, I'm worried about you.
I may not liking me and it and others,
Secret, could you know more about the secret?
for some of those guys, seem to be drifting away from me a little. But I think I need a secret force for the secret force. God would do her
you know you gave their information up a little too easily danger. My bow was taken when another force.
gentlemen. This is the first meeting of the secret force to discuss the secret force its watching the secret force that, after the secret force, that knows about the first secret force that,
Watching that secret force, that is, of course, a secret force. Yes, in the back at that, we want you to.
it is now for the last time that I was there's two rooms in these buildings that there is talk you, yes, that now that there is a room upstairs that is showing please,
Ben embedded. Fuckin lie of the forest, the watches the force, the launch of the forest, the watches, the forced the watches the force. I've always wanted to be a part of that group you're under arrest, but among the horse, like it, the script. Third, anglo dutch work.
ended in early sixteen. Seventy four. With the treaty of west minister, a messenger
Let's vote is on dogs. A messenger arrived to inform call that the war
was ever call of hay.
You heard you: can you a very just, kill the ice
so cover? So you? So you had some good eyes yet
What are you going? What's up? Larry watch stop by
some buyers right since you re this week. Is europe
this week's, suddenly a daisy. What message messenger? What is it.
The war is over. I gotta go, I want to know,
And I'm cutting off your toe
my manhatto, so as you suspected cove refused to accept the worms, are some more messengers were sent
at all with the same message, the war is over prepared a turn new orange over to the english and calls response was the same
several messengers. The singing on several messengers inform cold of the fact,
what another messenger came from Boston.
Official letter. Recognising the end of the war cove had had it ass. The letter was said
The letter said the city on the south side of manhattan was to be returned to the english and call was to step down so called. Had the messenger strung up on a pole and the main public square decide that would become known as bowling green, they tore off the messenger shirt and, across his chest, wrote the word opera magyar witch
in dutch means troublemaker. Oh my god. The messenger was hung there for three day: oh my god, the locals and soldiers baby ever
ok, you're also generates destroying them up, don't shoot
there's, no doubt strangle mom, there's something. I heard the message
sure. I know that I didn't mean shoot them as a jerk showed them
since every three days. Look
soldiers. The whole time is up
Pelted and with tomatoes, onions apples beats the whole to ever. My mouth, piles of rotted vegetables, lay beneath him, so
It is even though the dutch were happy with the english returning there. Just some of the dutch were mad that the war was
right and they and they wanted a chance to fight. To quote what is it
period to wear like if a guy was strung up and others were throwing made us Adam you just autocratic made as any doubt then you're suspicion. I add that it would be like weird and you'd have to have a reason. Some of the dutch manages to fight and quote vowed to slay the english dogs. Other vowed quote to fire the town pluck down the fortifications and tear out the governors throats who had compel them to slave contrary to their privileges.
There there not they're, not enjoying what's happening with dead sounds like they're, not happy did they want more war right after three days
Messenger was cut down still alive.
I have no vestige anyway, I'm gonna go new job
new message. Doan P,
as for three days stray put it back up.
I will pay my parents for three days,
It's the dutch then do
called, ordered him released and
banished from new orange for ten years,
of lebanese varies job in at the bid to combat it
pretty positive thinking
You're gonna be read in this place for ten years. Also I mean you have turned it. I mean you also know that you can sneak in. You just need to make new passport out a piece of paper by drawing a different picture yourself. So if the guy return during the ten years, he would be sentenced to death called continued to rule new orange.
But when a fleet of ships arrived from the netherlands, the gig was that he still try to exert its authority.
And he went on to a ship
go to negotiate is terms,
of surrender while he was on a boat off the coast of staff.
let's just cows. His lawyer would take a dingy back and forth from the boat,
negotiation, so we go from
a dingy, paddles and ores,
I I really like you offer nearby terrific calls rain, and
officially on november in november. Sixteen seventy four, but he wasn't done.
Next post for the dutch was in dutch and guinea as we talked about earlier.
where some english people were living in a dutch colony. So we don't how things for them, but observing that create prying now well after he was sent back to europe just in time to take part in the glory
revolution would size hero prince when the third become the king of england called never set foot in the ark again. The city would never be under control of the dutch again. It was under english control until the american revolution.
so what's interesting, I wouldn't know
He knows about this one guy in the netherlands, whose researching it and
no just act like it didn't happen, but there is like this crazy torture madman running what is now.
York froggy year and it's just totally erased from the history books, it's crazy to think there
It's crazy to imagine the the amount of fighting that went went before seventeen seventy six, because when you think about america, that sort of where it starts, but the idea
What proceeds that is dutch colonies in
fighting french colony, frightening colonies issue there is reddish. Come let's get this all kinds of shit, the glad we got rid of all those that was a good move in the long run of islam, get that that out of our system, but also fierce loyalty theirs
Thing you're sniffing around there too. Obviously, here the idea that sometimes people
jumped ship until your underwater and even then they ll hang on how interesting somebody round there. Some people.
Then he is
We signed things and cars, we ve proven it.
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