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anything so envy day. It feels like
A year ago we had an article marched over from
the house to the Senate an initial vote just before we see
recording here Tuesday afternoon, where you amazingly had forty five cent Republicans voting to dismiss this trial out of the gate, suggesting that you'll get five votes to conduct
Couple weeks when the trial actually gets under way, what he make it will, I think, weak if I may say so, I think we become known for
perspicacity in forecasting. Something like five
it's for conviction. I think
you're. All close today are saying that if some
we could get Mcconnell you could get for,
Five more maybe, but it looks like it's five.
None of the names are a surprise as far as the
substance of the argument, I'm going back and forth since this came up at first. I thought, of course, its its legitimate to impeach president after
he's left office, it doesnt it's not an expiration date
and then I kind of God.
Into this textual argument about, you know that the text convent
why's that the chief justice preside.
it's over the trial of the president, implying that it's the current present
but now I'm back to tactless face textual as phase not now.
I'm back, I'm back where you know just the constitution. Argument that innocents that this is
To send it to decide and what the Senate decides will be legal because the Senate decided it, but that doesn't mean I'm I'm for Calvin Ball by just that this. This power resides in the Senate
and it's not like they're gonna. Do anything crazy with it so
I mean it's a kind of defeat
Some of the drama of impeachment but
the house. Impeachment manager still have time to make their case, even though this is a very strong indicator of where the Republicans are gonna. Land.
such early where you on this question of whether a post office impeachment trial is legitimate or not. This is the process are get on with their lot. Republicans are hanging. There had sign and really started with Tom Cot was first alligator sang heap. He condemned what happened on January sex, but was.
Out of the gate saying? I don't believe this is a constitutional, endorsing and argument made by a judge, Michael looting, actually serious guy.
The first thing to say is now, as in the past,
This has been discussed the opinions
as to the constitutionality of post office impeachment.
falling down parties outlines.
I believe I am right in saying that whenever this has been discussed in the past, the party that.
the impeach e comes from has said. I think this is legal, whereas the other party has been enthusiastic.
And that's what's happening, hair. I think Trump should be impeached unconvicted, so I don't come at it from a perspective
The scepticism, but I am not sure what the law is, I'm not sure what the constitution
You think it's interesting that it makes reference in the constitution to the president, not a president.
Ultimately, there I think this is probably one of those.
Non just as the about all borderline non justifiable cases. I dont think the courts
Should all well decide this question, I think the Senate has to the impeachment power.
is a power invested in the legislature and the legislature is the most powerful, an important part of our system and that
presents a problem for Republicans who want to avoid coming to the conclusion that President trumpeted something terrible which he did, but it
their presence and with an opportunity it presents.
With a problem, because there is no obvious original list answer and the six three major,
Turkey is not going to save them from the political ramifications of their vote here equally, because it is
To the Senate than they are entitled, in fact, it is their duty.
to say. I don't think this is how we should proceed
and to mask as much of the politics of this as they can, with procedural objections,
so are not particularly surprised by this unjust
pointed in that I think it would have been good for the legislature
You have stood up and pushed back for once against the executive branch and in this case, extremely reckless behaviour from the
executive, but when we talked about this last time I pointed out that this is ultimately a political process, and I continue to think that
average person reading about this will consider it odd.
there is an impeachment process going on for a politician who has left office,
and that is whether it should honour going to weigh on how many politician.
To have been freed from the clutches of Trump continue going forward.
but I will make the argument Damagon had a extensive
peace on saying well that the founders a model, the impeachment power. On the british example,
and while the writing this, you have the famous impeachment trial,
Hastings going on Hastings was not currently in office.
in the text of the constitution, you have removal an disqualification suggesting rules, not
The only penalty and just common sense would suggest that if disqualification is one of the penalties, contemplating the concept,
given that you should just be elder resign and free yourself that potential heavily, I think, is persuasive damages
an excellent lawyer and an excellent historian, and I am certainly not going to say that he is wrong,
I am not convinced enough by his argument to be solid in my support,
But in those circumstances, in our system, where
It is unclear what a provision means. Then we defer
and in this case we defer to the Senate and the Senate
Cannon will proceed as it sees fit so Michael
What do you make of the arguments put forward, like Charlie other of our colleague,
Are you into this required in response from Congress? And I think that's obviously true.
It's just that, I'm not sure what the fuck.
The difference is between a trial where you get acquittal with five republican
That would be five times and the number of a presence party that's ever voted conduct
before your privacy there's only one
the earlier Trump impeachment Mitt Romney, who voted to connect. The first member of the press,
its own party. You ever voted, take convex that that's something
but I'm not sure myself how much weight fibres to
convict and a trial, ultimately acquits acquits pretty comfortably. What
What what did you mean that Anna a censure
I don't know what how many votes it would get now. I think I think things become very polarized again around tromp, but if you done it relatively quickly, you could have had eighty votes for for censure and the Senate
Yeah, I I don't know how much weight it carries. I mean
It does carry some weight. It carries we for the reasons
I think we ve said last time, like its historic, that he was impeached twice at all, and I mean it's a historic,
a distinction that he bears, that he wears the burden of for the rest of his life in furthering
the memory of his country,
that matters it matters a five Republicans vote. I think how
one of the reasons Republicans are so hesitant to vote. Is
because they think it matters more to them than to trump right that, in effect
leading to convict.
puts a target on their back, invites pray,
Harry challenges invites try,
intervention into their into primary races in the future.
In a way that they find unwelcome
and so they are backing away
like I said previously, applied
ass. They were person
coming from a baseline of he won't we'll never get enough votes to convict and bar from office.
So, given that, if you play it out by
game theory, what's best for me and for
stir them. It's ducking the question: that's why they
Our gloaming onto this argument that maybe it's just not appropriate to impeach.
President, whose out of office- or maybe we just said
Oh the voters had their say. So that's enough! I'm sorry! I I don't know how much
Wait it has for Trump in a weird way. Trump is a mystery box right now, because he's off twitter,
and he's being silent, and I know that
legal strategy for the impeachment.
Something beyond or or whatever. But it's like us
It's like a very dark cloud over the republican horizon, but it hasn't issued any thunder lightning. Yet no one knows what to make of it. This
first time by the way that there's a story, I think yesterday saying the trunk was to take a break, was like the first inflation.
you didn't enjoy like every single day and minute of every aspect of his prey.
See no matter what was happening? You no matter what the controversy was, but Charlie
What are you were, and I ask you have parties lama to but is: where are you on the question of how appropriate it essential it is to this offence or would be to dispense? Why don't you
an answer that question. Without referring to the timing in that, had
thin six months left, maybe two months left impeachment would have been quite obviously the correct path,
I think it should be impeached and convicted.
that question really only arises because we are now in this odd post presidential twilight Zone
And the issue is muddied: it's it's muddy politically, because.
I imagine the public is probably
less interested than it would be if he were still in office. Its.
Muddy constitutionally. I don't think it's entirely clear that this is
corrects reading or that I'm not sure I am.
and on his mighty culturally, because, as Michael says, for the first time in five years, chumps disappear. So yes,
you're chasing off the shadows. Suddenly we would never have thought we'd be doing with charm, and in that context I would have been
Much happier to have seen a broad based censure than acquittal, could you can't have both and if, if
Between January sixteen January twentieth, if both
thousands of Congress had passed a censure of the press.
Didn't have the United States for what happened on January sex. It would have killed impeachment. Similarly, the moment that impeachment was
raised the moment. It was obvious that it was going to happen.
again the chance of getting eighty votes for essential
there. I believe there was some negotiation. There were some wrangling between the two parties. Some figures were,
saying have you let us censure him instead of Impeach were on board, so
I dont think I censure in a vacuum really is enough, but I
get may have in retrospect. Been preference,
to what looks as if it's going to be a fairly straightforward, a credible and you have five people
on the republic inside today who signal that they might say yes to conviction,
and Rob Portman insists that he is still weighing the constitutional question and the merits and that he wanted
continued debate on the constitutional treaty of this measure.
because he's unsure so maybe six, it seems unlikely that
Any more than it go for it.
And so, once again we are going to enter into a trial. The outcome
which is already known and
Too many many people it's going to look as if Trump was in some cosmic sense innocent.
So I think you have to weigh weight in the context of the timing, but should I
in an ideal world, the president would have been swiftly impeached, convicted removed and barred from office for what he did. It deserved that response.
The remedy turn the public centre left and we had a Monmouth Paw yesterday that show fifty six percent in favour of impeachment,
and then it might have been a little less than that, but over fifty on conviction, but clearly republican sentiment has swung
strongly against this kind of feel. It
You can also see it and the reaction of politicians, Nicky Hayley, who was quite hard,
in her condemnation of what prompted aunt Jane your six at her
and see what your meeting or see speech a couple days later was on Fox last night
Saying why wasn't Ghraib what he said, but there's no reason to impeach Young was just letting go, get give poor man a break
a Rubio who is important
Hearing the coal mine here last week was was quite dismissive of this effort and then
was tweeting out and out this morning or yesterday really horse things about it, and so clearly that the party is against it, and you have
politicians who are thinking about running in twenty twenty, four really sensitive. That fact.
Yeah I mean, like you said. I think I think
at times in politics, people you know
based on the baseline and once Republicans figured out he's never gonna be. Can
did and removed under these circles,
this. Then you bargain
the highly intervention was kind of funny. Could she literally said give him a break?
And you know it was like, while this is the
first band of moderate rebels that Mickey Healy couldn't endorse, throwing over regime but classic
all right, let's just say it just just putting it out there in the zone attendant regime change in we saw some people back away from it. It's notable.
And I M, but yeah I.
republican, suppress it in, and you know it's it's kind of funny, those pulling numbers.
precisely the Senate balance right. Fifty five percent support impeachment. We
fifty five senators who look like there
proceed. I mean, I think you know what I've felt
what I ve noticed is a lot of. It
So this among Republicans, like you, know what about them,
rights last summer. You know: why aren't you using the same video technology to go after them as you're going after these capital rioters?
and you are also seeing like the subject change to Joe Biden right
Joe Biden had a very active first week of executive orders. It pretends things for the future
governance in America and in others
the Republicans her like one again
settled into opposition,
and in a literally just
Want to relegate the Trump era because they feel like they have something to lose from it. They probably do.
cook. Joy question to you. The second trapping impeachment would be remembered as a grievous mistake
a mistake, a worthy, a forlorn effort or an absolute necessity.
A worthy if forlorn effort, Emily
it all depends on what terms does in the future. It mistake moderate mistake, moderate mistake.
I'm trying to say worthy
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The organization of fifty fifty set to try to get a commitment from trucks, humour that Democrats wouldn't move against filibuster and
congress. He didn't get such a commitment, but we did
have to Democrats Joe Mansion and Christian Cinema coming,
And say they absolutely guarantee that they will oppose any effort to and fro buster what to make of it.
I'm thrilled. I think Mcconnell played a weekend well.
I'm not sure he ever expected to get his written assurance
likely knew that if he carried on too long, he would lose the Roma.
Members of his own
he and embolden precisely the radicals on the democratic side that he is,
trying to inoculate the Senate against. It is a big deal
That German can once again confirmed that he is opposed to a ball
Should the filibustered and not just in time,
general, but in any circumstances whatsoever there was and deeply satisfying
Peace by Gregg sergeant at the Washington Post yesterday, in which sergeant expresses frustration with
engine for saying that under no circumstances will he wrote to abolish all. What's the euphemism reform, the filibuster.
Not even a little things, that is good news. I think once we start to reform, the filibuster will be,
Sally hidden away and then
Kristen Cinema adds a lot to the achievement.
She too said that she is not interested in abolishing the
the best I am she's not going to change your mind, she's, not open to them.
in her mind- and this in turn prompted Joe Biden Press secretary to suggest that the president is also opposed to killing.
The filibuster, which is great news. It's not just great news for Mitch. Mcconnell sought is great news for Republican.
In the Senate, saunters great news for conservative
What is great news for America? The filibuster is one of the most important parts of our system and
I am pleased that at the moment at least it looks as if it's going to be staying.
I've seen some people suggesting the moroccan- all didn't
achieve too much because he just got three people to say something that down the line. They could.
Changed their minds on that
not sure whether
a letter from checks, Cuba would be much more valuable.
I'm not even sure that writing an agreement into the power sharing contract in the Senate would be much more useful, given the simple majority could alter them
two of the filibuster were removed, but
it's not that he met privately with cinema and Mansion and Joe Biden, pressing
she came out saying they have come to an arrangement, Joe
she now has said over and over and over again the same thing:
including on television emphatically.
Kristen Cinema likewise, is she could not have been clearer yesterday
And it is a big deal that Biden.
Seems equally skeptical
What Mcconnell is done here is played
we can't, while.
And he stopped in its tracks. What was a fairly obvious and well reported on plan to set up a sequence of votes in the next few months? The would give Democrats an excuse if they wish to take it to abolish the filibuster that seems to be off the table.
is have been bought at least good news, and they are you as much of an enthusiast. Further fell, buster, Asturias,
Yeah I mean I'm pretty much an enthusiast just because I think you know
Obviously the filibuster is part of the constitution,
can it emerged very.
early in our republics. History has been altered
slightly. It's been cut down
eyes more recently in in certain.
send it procedures, but the Senate is the proper place
upper chamber of a bi camera legislation legislature is the proper place for
minority rights to impede
the majority, and so I am glad to see it. I think it was a huge
stake in a huge contributor to
polarization for the judicial Philip?
To be trashed overtime,
and abused over time. Anyway, it was, I think, it's I mean it's tremendously, contributed to polarization, so I
think. I think it's good than it survives. I am a little bit troubled, though, in that
two people endorsing it and I actually, I was a little bit surprised by Christian Cinema because she's,
is a progressive and the areas.
Major european looks like a circular firing squad and it looks like no particular danger to her anytime soon.
Well, I'm glad she indoors state, but I had this feeling I had after California
proposition aid in two thousand. He, where was I.
one by fifty two to forty seven and was like
If this is a an important matter
the definition of marriage. If this is like an eternal thing,
really hanging on by a thread and you know better
king, about buying just two more years of the filibuster. I mean it's just starting to feel. Like its doomed bet, Democrats,
but the democrat position against the filibuster is heartening to a point of no return.
and so that just means it's a matter of time until they have
a majority large enough to get rid of it for
However, that would be a shame to
I'm a little next cares. We think of this on on the phone
still, on the one hand, it had to filibuster forever, but certainly did the Senate has not been entirely democratic institution from the beginning and was was meant to be a break as with so many other things are ass. Our customs system are on rapid action and I think that's all
I think it should should be your heart hard to get things done. On the other hand, I think, as contributed
to the the
The executive branch from sucking power away from Congress because it is just easier to do
things through executive. Already, we see this with Biden is Erector pace of exactly
Borders are not sure whether any of them have any obvious glaring constitutional or are legal problems, but
just it's it's a violation of the spirit of our system to have this kind of ping pong back and forth. Now, between chief,
ghettos or have y know unilaterally does a lot of stuff and then another line does it another two
I read, does it, but on the
On the other hand, I think Congress, the sources of Congress not being defensive, of its powers and prerogatives goes much deeper than the fell, buster and even filibusters, eventually eliminated.
This will still be pathetic in this regard. There are many points of balance and
fusion in the american system and other
I dont disagree with you that I have
the feeling that it is impossible to get anything done, legislatively
one reason why the executive branches taken so much power in recent years,
It is also the case that the balance between these
Federal government per se and the states needs addressing, and I think that to get rid of the filibuster would be to weaken
the states to weaken federalism, to empower the federal government even further and to lead to a proof
in balance, in our constitutional order. If you,
like me believe that
Federal government is currently far larger and more intrusive than it was supposed to be. Then
You will end up seeing the filibuster in the Senate in General Ass a year
four counterbalance against the encroachment of Washington into this.
TIM in general, we no longer have an operating commerce clause that the commerce clause
has become an enabling act.
We no longer have an operator,
being enumerated, powers, doctrine where one
sweet pass. Constitutional amendments to, for example, prohibit this
of alcohol above a certain potency.
Now we add new prescriptions without
the body debating their legality. The drug war is a good example of that but says a great deal of red
elation. What we do have, though, still within the system, is a
Body that is drawn from the states not elected more directly and
a provision within that bodies, rules that require a super
majority for it.
Extension, the House of Representatives and the presidency to do anything considerable.
We hear from progressives that the Senate and the filibuster are undemocratic, then ass. They are local list. What they do is they put
The emphasis on the states, California, is permit
said to do whatever at once, with its state government there
very few restrictions on what the state of California
may do if California, with
to institute single Pair, it can do so
If California wishes to raise taxes to eighty percent, it can do so. California concern
all of the workplace, rules that it once it can set all of the business world that it
it can set all the zoning and education and healthcare rose,
That's it wants. What it can do is fine
pass them on Wyoming, or at least it can do that. But thanks to the Senate and the filibuster it,
to convince not just fifty percent of the country.
but a majority of the states that
It is the right idea- and I think, that's really important- to Continental Republic that is intellectually and religiously and geographically diverse, ass
is ours. I think it is a good thing that perforce
keeping change is possible. You have to convince
a super majority of representatives from the states the state
some cells can do what they like. But if it's going to be a national rule, if it's going to be imposed, if it's going to be one
this fits all. Then you need serious buying and I am
I am cognisant of the criticisms you make and others have made, and George Well and David Brooks recently about the Philippines
your empowering the executive branch, but I think that the consequences of its abolition would be much worse,
for the overall balance of em
I can government and as such, I hope that it sticks around us all. Well said to that point. Anybody
they filibuster is ultimately doomed. Whatever happens this Congress, yes or no, yes, troika! No, I don't think so
it may go, but I dont think that its guaranteed, because.
you have a lot of senators from purple states that
continue to be the case. Even if the ballot shifts even further in the democratic direction
you have a lot of senators, some small states there are.
and people who make it to the United States Senate, and they just rank ideologues didn't care whether from the not interested in the traditions of the Senate and said they don't care about anything I just spoke about, but
There are others who are aware that it would be bad, for this
state and bad for them ass. Nearly
did senators to give away a great deal of their power and influence and turn the Senate into a more exclusive version of the house.
And I'm just not convinced that at the moment the Democratic Party has
Boats are I'd, I dont mean, because
dimension and justice.
I came out and said that they are going for it
I mean beyond not. I think there are probably two three, maybe for more senators.
On the democratic side who have pushed came to shove would would bulk would form again
fourteen and come up with a compromise, would perverted
whittle away would never around the edges. I am not convinced that the numbers other
Ultimately it is doomed ethnic them.
Turning hard against it
and eventually will have. The numbers are too
a big and slammed republican majority, their institutional, slight Mitch, Mcconnell really care deeply about it, but I think their influence in the party will probably dwindle.
over time. So I said, I think, they're probably end up going at one point. One way
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Arizona, GEO, key censured, sending became Jeff flag and
juicy. The successful conservative.
Governor of Arizona now in his second term supposed.
the censure, was over his lockdown measures and sprang during the first wave of the poor
dammit. Obviously, a lot of us had to do with do see not doing trumps bidding and doing something to block.
Overturn the election
Arizona related Lee do see
for the moment is saying: has zero interest and running for the Senate seat in two years in Arizona and given us, you know why woody way.
Yeah well, it definitely looks like Arizona is likely to you know
comes rampant, turned a to nominate for the Senate,
Looks like it's gonna nominee like you know, no hope
Lou wannabes losers. That emerges. We had a lot of these at the beginning of the tea party era in the jail,
P, where established
Tyrians got taken by surprise by the populists.
And ran I mean, I think, gum in her tongue.
Massey once said that he thought that
Republicans wanted to return to be
the principles and vote for people like him,
and then he realized they wanted to vote
the craziest person in the room- and he was it at the time- and you know my own-
view, though the Arizona GEO Peace that this is a
belle, whether in a warning for the rest of the party,
is, I think, a few
major figures in the Arizona Republican Party in including John Mccain,
system. We got on the wrong side of the base camp.
Let me staked out positions that
two unpopular with the party and then fuel.
a populist insurgency that is also unpopular
parties in a civil war in that state.
That is ultimately self destructive.
I mean I wrote about it in the magazine it
populists, have to learn something from the establishment and take up their responsibilities to govern, not just to make a spectacle of themselves in protest
which is what's happening in Arizona now with these censures, but then
leaders of the party people like Jeff, Flake and John Mccain. They
they have to stop going to the New York Times and base
the key whispering. I hate my voters, you know that's not helpful either so yeah I mean I am. I think it's a big story, though, because this is the fate the National Party would would do well to avoid ass, a child, its change. You think state parties in these to be established in a terrier in institutions
but instead we have these kind of state parties. Now are all over the map that scene begone a little crazy and and what one possible Marv what's happening is Arizona is what happened in Virginia where he had us we're just connect with it.
very same time, that Virginia was becoming more suburban and a tougher lift for republicans requiring adjustments in in various ways. The party went in the opposite direction and double down on a completely thought.
Less populism that was guaranteed to be repellent to Cicero
voter say, have Kelly Wards, Arizona, GEO P at the tank
same time, Arizona's changing like you know a lot of states. Georgia high on that list completely going in a direction where it's going to make it impossible for the party to compete. Republicans have to decide.
Whether they want to win elections in changing states, it suddenly possible
to do so. Ass.
Party is shown in Florida and in Texas, but is not guaranteed.
There is something that happens to people when they begin to feel power slipping away or when they can't
and holding it, they become more crazy.
and the? U tradition, they see this in state such as Wyoming, where the democratic,
runs, for the Senate is an absolute lunatic. They believe that,
they are a rock war. I wear
which his hat to the debate,
outside is look at it and they say will. Obviously, this is the sort of person that runs for the Senate from Wyoming, because they're just not going to win the sea
but can I should not have that effect in places such as Virginia or Arizona or, let's hope, not Georgia,
And yet, if they're not careful,
they. Well, we ve already seen.
a number of high profile retirements from people
I just don't want to be involved in politics anymore, people who can
n in toss up states in Iraq,
man is retiring.
Hi, I was rather than it was not guaranteed to stay that way, and it hasn't done sheriff Brown in yet.
to me in Pennsylvania. It's gonna be tough to win. That Sea
even if, as a mid term backlash against the Democratic Party.
what were one.
Case against the idea that Arizona is about to become Virginia, is that, although now has to democratic senators,.
do you see one in twenty eighteen, which was a bad idea for Republicans biting fifteen points? Sixteen points.
But if he says no, and if the pie
He has taken over by Kelly WAR type
whether that means the Kelly WAR type
stay home so that the delicate
that loses all the caddy war types become the candidates themselves. Well, then, maybe Arizona could become more like Virginia.
I think Republicans needs to decide what they want to do when he retired from the Senate in South Carolina.
went to Heritage Jim DE meant said that he'd rather
forty really solid sentences. Then
sixty squishy ones.
I disagree with that.
I would rather have sixty really solid senators, but having forty
And it is, does not work out very well for conservatism ass. We learnt
two thousand nine it takes
long time to clear up the damage if it is possible to clarify the damage.
Which, given the way that the american system of government works it
Sir, I'm I'm bothered by those who have have opted out
it is early. Perhaps we will see some high quality candidates, but at the moment it looks as if the chances
every taking the legislature and twenty twenty two ah limited, because the people that you would need to do it will seem to be run
away. So immediately. Try mention rapporteur when we got word of his retirement here this week. Couple different interpretations: wine, that's how he knows:
How can we back and majority anytime soon to just like that, general nude new tone has been taken in Congress last shovel years and where three attic I'd say could be it all this that that can be tough slots, letting for Portman type Republicans in their Publican party for the duration
I think I need I know another man's mind. It could be a mix of all those things. All those things are true. It's probably not good studying for.
Hartman's types. I do think some people, some political figures, get bored in the Senate like it's, not their thing,
I'd rather be
active somewhere or they'd, rather be an
executives, and even just mean governors, but I mean like literally going being board members of major companies and other things that they could do with their time so
It's it's hard to know exactly that, but.
they're already rumours about whom I run in that in that,
see. One of them is only a friend but an acquaintance. Jd Vance, who beat me too, the punch in
weird childhood memoir game
oh, he hillbilly elegy fame
the position for that state, as he's a conservative, but he has
Heresies on trade and industrial policy that have tended to boost Canada,
in Ohio in both parties. You know, like shared Brown,
so that might be a good,
It may be a better fit, then rob Portman in
in the new term, we dont, but we don't know but
the Republican Party does have to. It does have to take care
way of avoiding the civil war scenario, is keeping in recruiting your best talent right. An agenda Portman doesn't doesn't lacked.
when an town isn't just.
Being on a cable news hit for thirty seconds, talent is also fund, raising
Helen is also winning elections. Write me a fake,
One fear you have right is that register.
Back to the very heart of it, yet
you know, one fear going back to the Arizona example right is, you know, Kelly Ward,
Who is chairman of the Arizona Republican Party?
she just loses elections, that's what she does and they are taking out people who win elections.
That is not helping them.
Either. So yeah I mean
I still think this is too early to know if this is going to be a big trend, but it's definitely something to worry about giants.
couldn't you Republicans, we'll take back the Senate and twenty twenty two, yes or no. No,
I'm going to say that a lot accomplished and they say yes, I think.
emanation battles. What will be caught him next, but
environment will be very favourable to the party and in ways that is difficult to predict, but it's it's. It's gonna. I believe it's it's gonna happen.
And there will be some more unifying going on that. Is it possible to envision right at this moment with that when they do quick at our plus plug Arab
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finally caught up and watched the midnight in Paris. I have I kept hearing about this,
We don't know why I waited so long to watch it, but the other night. We were so
we're looking for a movie, and this came up and I thought I would we'll do that enjoyed it a great deal, I'm I'm. If ye
Woody Allen movies, although recently I have enjoyed it a couple of his. I enjoyed cafe society. This I thought was better. I dont aspect
It is because I'm a writer myself and I enjoyed all of those
seems all because I also harbour love of the nineteen twin
is an especially of Paris. But I just thought this. This movie worked.
ready. While I can see why I'm always being told to watch it and began
You ve been obsessed posted about.
The other day with the game, stop squeeze
yeah, leaves her. So the games.
so game stop is retail.
Store that sells video games and last
I got a new ceo who kind of invested
some money in an retail investors liked him in and started buying up the stock and then be
egg institutional investors on Wall Street, particularly
Melvin CAP. It all right.
we started? Shorting, the stock down
four dollars and basically what they are doing, is that the kind of borrowing,
stock to sell it back at this lower price and what happens
is, if you get over your skis and opposition, and basically there were more stock there
more stocks game stop.
being shorter than there were available even on the market.
you are vulnerable to what happened, which is a bunch of
people on red it that are-
crazy traders took up games
as a kind of crusade.
and they are able to buy stock, which forces the short short position to buy stocked to cover
Their potential losses and you get what's called a melt up.
And so game. Stop went from being a
we're dollars, stock and dying industry too. I mean I
today, they almost touched two hundred in their price
and the estimated
Is that a couple of
Institutional investors have now basically forfeited
millions of dollars to these pitchfork we'll do
day, traders online. It is a really.
stunning populists story of a just war?
the chambers of finance and getting more than
a jackpot from it and smart people looking really stupid. I love
it's like this,
the fairy tale for me.
I just finished last night, a book by Ganem Russell widely called the american way of war and I've had to say and myself I know literally for ten years,
I have the little stamp on it here from the strand, bookstore n.
lower Manhattan where I bought it for six dollars. It says, and I thought
This is one of the many books at which just sinner myself, and I occasionally think why should read that one day I don't know why, but a month or so ago actually picked it up in its
a fascinating work. A brilliant work, anyone who is interested an american military history should read: read this buckets
was written a nineteenth century three so towards the end, goes in all weapon
in our view, a little dated, but most of it
they stands up, and one of the major themes is how I what why would cause a strategy
of annihilation began to become part of the american strategic norm,
and this is a tradition associated with ulysses-
scratch whose approach and Annie
Civil war was obviously just fix, the Confederate Army and two utterly,
destroy so with that envy at that time and the podcast for editors picks. What's your pic?
Kevin, williamsons, peace, America, first or Biden first in which he annexed
things how, by MS taking on some of trumps, protectionist measures,
hers and rhetoric, which he D,
like at all, but thereby
is making them worse by making them more like direct cronyism corporate welfare than they were before ass, a check it out check up. What's your pic
I liked both Jim Garrulity and Isaac sure on the thoroughly predictable, but nevertheless emetic display. We ve seen in the press over the last week towards the new press secretary,
Jen Saki, who, I am sure, is a nice person.
maybe even a virtuous person, but absolutely just not this. Her too
He believed at face value, and yet that's it
what far too many journalists, and indeed some media analysed celebrations Delta have announced that that going to do. I have said
Finally, an honest person in the press briefing room now
gone vacation for another four years so much,
is an azure. You editorial occasionally don't take too
boy seeming to choose
of serving. I do right. Some
some, but not all of them. I didn't write this one called hankering, Loki, baseball, urgent and soft spoken brave, such a wonderful, send off to anchor and one of the great athlete
an american history, I saw a lot of admission before a lot of old baseball team.
our accounts, some of which she edges, tweet out photos and
Hank Aaron, the young Hank Aaron such an incredibly good. Looking ball player, he looks like someone who's just meant to pay baseball course. He was and you're dealt with the obviously of of incredible prejudice within credit
grace unbelievable pressure on him ass. He approached Babe Ruth
I've home run record and if I'm not mistaken, there was actually a guy with a gun at Fullerton County Stadium, the night he broke the record with the charge that, if someone attempted to assassinate, I guarantee that he is supposed to take that person a down and you just
Look at his lifetime numbers just astonishing. Obviously, some hundred fifty five home runs, but you
Track the home runs
still had more than three thousand hits
twenty one seasons, as now
three hundred and seventy seventy one, three hundred seven three thousand
Excuse me, seven hundred seventy one, all time, heads to that
two hundred, ninety seven army and on and on so that this editorial was a wonderful farewell to an absolutely tremendous
ballplayer and that's it for us. You been listening to a national view. Podcasting you re broadcast, retransmission cow, this game without the express written permission, NASH from you magazine is strictly prohibit
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