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I said anything so Jim Geraghty were according on Tuesday afternoon here, and this house leadership, though, is gonna, go down a yes tomorrow, and everyone expects a last chance to
lose em, probably to lose by a lopsided margin and Elise Stefanik from New York to slip into her slot and leadership, what you make it-
So, rich last time I was on the spot cast iron lamented that, like look of Europe
look in the house. You want to leave the TWAIN
the election in your rearview mirror. You want to move on from Trump. You may not necessarily be anti trump, but you are getting ready to be post trump, as our colleague Kevin Williamson put it and some schmuck out their interpreted this as me, being pro tromp, aunt, Islas, Cheney and
I was trying to cancel this Cheney for anyone out there. Who's got listening issues or has some sort of way. Now listening, comprehension, issues out there I'd be very happy.
To live in a world where two hundred Twel House Republican, said you know what the twenty two,
election was fairly decided, there's no
prince of venezuelan hackers. There is no need.
These lunatics down in Arizona to start looking for bamboo traces in the paper on the ballots as evidence that China
had somehow shipped over ballots provide, nor any other nonsense. Conspiracy theory like that it would be best for the country of the present United States,
insisting that he had really one the race and, in all honesty I really love alternate well House Republicans to do that. That's not gonna happen.
short of that. I would like the hundred forty five house Republicans, who voted for at least Cheney, to keep her position as House conference cheer earlier this year to come out and say that, but that's not gonna happen either.
I got to deal with the reality ass. It is. I got to deal with what is a realistic scenario, and the answer is clearly most there there that you can count the number Republicans who are willing to publicly criticised Donald Trump. On one hand, there are a lot of people who look at this issue in a kind of begins and ends with this attitude of the republican grass roots should not be so Loyalty Donald Trump, but they are.
republican. Grassroots should not believe that the twenty twenty election was stolen. While the problem is a bunch of them. Do there's a little bit a sign of progress. There is at NBC News pull. It showed fifty percent of Republican see themselves as
primarily loyal to the party not to trump. But forty six percent said here. They consider themselves loyal to Trump, not the party. If you force this fight now, you're gonna end up with a big ugly civil war within the Republican Party, you're gonna botch. What should be a very winnable cycle for twenty twenty two and you know it's not like the democrats- don't have enough advantages in life right now. Why should Republicans make their jobs and easier? That said, I
do you think the upshot of all this? If, as that everyone expects lose, China gets replaced that almost everybody involved is gonna? Come out of this damaged? I know there are some people who see this is a win win win. I see report
in Party House caucus. It's got all of the open free thinking. We come to associate with the branch of idiots that there is a you know, just absolute caught cold like lockstep. You cannot criticise dear leader, and I think this is driven primarily by fear and its, because Donald Trump has no no problem with with actually torturing the party, and I think at some point when it's when Donald Trump reaches an issue were his obsession with twenty twenty election. His observable absolute adamant, belief in these nutty conspiracy theories reaches the point. Words could damage the twenty twenty midterms Republicans should do very well in then. At that point, in the future of the band aid cannot be very clear for all these House republican Centre. Republicans to say you know what we cannot completely tie ourselves into, not like a pretzel in order to placate the ego
the former president, such I have been mixed on this. Obviously, the Chinese actually write about the election she's right about trumps raw sheets. My dear little little harder on trumped four January slickson, then I would be- and on some kind of detailed questions about responsibility, no question. She'd broadly,
about January sixth as well. I just heard a wish at someone who's really rooting for her that the first time around when her ladyship was challenged. You know she won the victory against the forces that wanted aperture in a really important one, and I just wish you'd been a little more prudent to try
keep this from from happening, because one, where the other, at the other side in and the parties, getting an enormous victory at her expense. I
in this story exists on two planes. I think one of those plans is the one on which we all live: ass, widow, political,
excessive, to spend our time writing about current affairs and the other is
the one on which everyone else lives. My view.
What happened on January, Sixes
Well known and clear. I think it was an a
Not disgrace. Trump spent two months lying before it and he has been lying since it. The people who tried to change the outcome of the election were attempting to stage a coup. The idea that might pants should unilaterally over rule,
election ass conducted by the states and certified by, although not in any meaningful way ratified by Congress was a disgraceful one ends.
insofar as this is a debate between the people who think they elect
and was stolen and the people who think that it was not. I am firmly on the side of the people who think that it was not
and so I agree
staunchly with most of what less Cheney
has said- and I reject most of the characterisation of her words- is being in some way, disrespectful to the voters or us exhibiting contempt for conservatives Republicans or what you well. I also think that, while it is
portance that the people who have been following this and engaging with its stand up for the truth and why it is necessary for us to be bothered by the implications of this route, which other thereupon
working party is, in a sense, ratifying a lie. I think that the practical consequences of this change will be almost nil and I am a little less upset about it than others. As a result, I dont think in particularly mattresses in that job. I dont think anyone outside of a handful of people who follow politics, care about it, whether they should honour,
I don't think, become twenty twenty two, this all the consequences that will flow. This are going to make much of a difference,
see that more narrow debate over whether List Cheney should be
the role both ways. On the one hand, it is true
that the reason the Republican Party in Congress wants to get rid of
Paris because she saying things that they would rob ass. She did
say, and she is unwilling to spread falsehoods, that they would prefer either to ignore or to indulge
It also true that this is the Republican Party as it currently exists, and it is probably not a good match to have her in that position. Given that the issue
you should know, Republican Party has decided to ignore
or indulge those lines
and it certain point in, Inter
only a moral blunt democracy which the republican caucus in the house is your going to run up into trouble
Oh, if you say what the majority of your members, I don't want you to say so
On the one hand, I think it says terrible things about the republican Party. This word
is. On the other hand, this is where the Republican Party is, and so this is probably the most likely consequence and
take away from. It is broadly that it's sad that this is where the Republican Party is not that I had any.
Relations too to the country, but that the
idea, as has been suggested by many commentators, and figures such as meant Romney, warlike that this is going to have severe consequences come next year's midterms, I just think, is wrong. I don't think that anyone particularly CAS Mary, so I think that everything I agree with the just the point that realism, which is this- is where the Republican Party is right now, but with tears of Mccarthy. Turning on tee, I do
he's making primarily a puts who calculation he's made a calculation that Donald Trump having Donald Trump points. Aid is more important than having less cheerios aid and, of course, that's a fairly obvious calculation and corrective and purely political sense, an that's before his own interests in terms of your winning this speakership, but there is also the ways packaged it is as our resolution of internal conflicts and I'm just not entirely, can
since that it's a resolution of internal conflict to remove tidier is in the immediate sense that I think changes a person of limited national significance and starting points are not. Many. People are following this that closely outside of the political and Pandit world, but at the same time there is a sort of symbolic signal, an indication and this I think in the sense that Donald Trump still has this
Incredible power within the party- and I don't see how this is going away. I think this is the first shot fired off of of a messy road, a fight to come and reproached going to see that interest rates to reproduce you that also in twenty twenty four. So I I just know, I am not convinced that this is as as limited in terms of damage
I then, as has been suggested, the generous thing about the other day. If you look at trumps influence, so he uses a presidential election that he has our side, roar and and losing the Georgia special elections he drives. A party through is ridiculous. Wheeler geishas in and political context,
being of the election. That goes no war where he no longer has any former political form of political power, can't sign, executive borders or anything he doesn't have the megaphone. He used to account step outside of the White House on his work on the way to marine life
and have a bunch of like funds in his face that are better played. It assumes they can fully.
cable news he's not on social media is in fact a little bit not much
has this kind of old school blog now called from the Tesco doll. J Trump
still has this incredible grip on the party. Now, it's not entirely clear you just how tight that grip is. I think it is possible to exaggerate, but it is an extraordinary given that all these things at you, you would have
identified, as means of him having influence for reasons that we have had in enforcing the party have
gone away and he still has its extraordinary influence here
think probably one of the more intriguing wrinkles of trumps posts. Presidential persona he Desdemona coverage when he spoke at sea pack,
what he does appear in front of. Can we called it? A Maria barter Romo generates a big deal, money called
to Lord Ingram and said that the required to characterize the capital is that there is no threat at all at the Capitol Hill Riots. It was a love. Fest people were hugging, others. This bizarre alternate reality view of things. Each army does that he generates a decent amount of attention and I think when we discuss in this part, gas
times there is a giant tromp shape a vacuum in the news environment right now and every time like it
related to see how much attention a trumps in our states
on his blog gets from, say, review or a whole bunch of other conservative publications.
Much attention comes from mainstream, more or liberal publications, a hey look! What trumpeted today, you know! There's this relentless need to get that. You know that that adrenalin rush of outrage and shock and omega go right. Now, big truck the mainstream media.
Methadone attics, who just your black, they need more stimulation from that the trunk to provide for a substitute for
Tucker Karlsson, oh look! What do you know just how they did today washing poses a big star in him to let you know there's this need to create the new trump figure, and it's not really filling itself. So as long as that hunger is there, he will have that platform if he wants it and interested Easy hasn't use it very much enough. I look if he's enjoying post presidential life and
got on the golf course and then you know distressing from what I imagined was a pretty stressful for your presence. He terrific good for him go out and enjoy your life Donald Trump. I do kind of think, though, that the until it becomes clear that he doesn't have the pole that he wants, and I don't like that other
really rely on the Texas House. Primary we're gonna need to see one good primary fight where the Trump endorsed candidate doesn't beat the non Trump endorsed candidate, and at that point more Republicans will start saying. Ok, maybe I can start
I'll, be more openly about in disagreement with the surf former president. Maybe it won't kill me in the primary or maybe
see, Republicans being much more outspoken about this after the twenty twenty two cycle, primers fast or that that door Psmith Point to make his wide trappist, actually giving wrote to the careful about these endorsements cousin proceed. He now you know, he'll tell you his record and endorsement. As you know, a hundred fifteen and one or something a bay knows winning is winning, as is important,
keeping his employees. The perception of the ex questioning you, Charlie Cook, how confident argue that Donald Trump won't run again in TWAIN
twenty four, very somewhat, not at all, not at all. I think may decide it's not worth it all. He may be worried about losing, may just be tired or maybe dead,
But he is material and absolutely could decide to run, and if he does decide to run, he would be the presumptive front. Runner netiquette not tell generic Sixty percent chance.
Does run meaning that it is even more likely than not, but I think the idea that the he would really hate to lose this twenty twenty four election, whether it's against bite and our common Harris, Sir, who knows what happens then democratic?
but the want of losing turn around with you now is an answer to that Jim. It didn't lose their yes,
I would hate to have the election stolen from advancing articles in her. Oh yeah
answers not at all in and out of an think about this also last couple days, it probably his decision at twenty twenty three, the most consequential decision for the future, their public and party made by any one person since I dont want Eisenhower, maybe Eisenhower thinking inside he's, gonna run run for President s answer as Republic
just going to be a huge deal, so we're all DOM trumps hands. Guys, don't worry, it'll be fun.
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quite the clip they were at the the peak. I think maybe a p for doing what Jim, like four million a day now for more than two million today, but more and more Americans are getting vaccinated and if you add up the percentage of Americans who have had at least one shot and what you presume is the percentage of Americans that have had covid, even even if they didn't have a
positive of test, really began to get too high number and and now you're you're, having even Anthony found on tv.
Sunday saying you know I don't know about this- worry mask indoors anywhere. You ve had Scott godly bioethics than a pretty good authority responsible throughout this pandemic, but certainly at the taken fire from from people who thought he is overly prescriptive. Sang get vaccinated, there's really there's not much more risk here than that. Just from from the flu any given flew season. When we make the issue, I've even noticed just on it closely,
can arrange New York City that at the beginning of the pandemic, in and certainly in the winter months, people were still very, very
keen on wearing their masks and if you have years was even slightly down past the news. They be very quick to tell you this. I know I'm seeing lots
late. Readying. Invoking things relate masks on. I think there is a general relaxation. People are starting to feel a lot better waited. There was a person folks, the general bashing, before before we start, if, according to the experts saying that you can know, relax after you, ve got your got your vaccine, so I think it is
progressing quite encouragingly and is probably going as well as it could be going in the sense that you are always going to have people who didn't want to take the vaccine, for whatever reason I was, I was of the view that was, it is counterproductive to tell these people their supervision and seafaring, ultimately is achieved as very personal decision to take a vaccine or not take a vaccine wade
year. Risk to the second question might not be the same as other people's risk hinders always different things, and we will consider so, but it is, it is good to see that most people are are garrigues yet and we could probably live with the numbers, as they are currently progressing in the sense that the robes of people whose gestures
You're back sees it, as is their right, I think and day, but there's enough that it is making good progress and I'm a pretty happy without going.
try it. When I was chairing shouting about this, especially of law,
You gotta well argued. I live in a free state and what guys are talking about the first with all these restrictions, because you do you have been dealing with them,
serious way, and while I keep reading journalists,
in Washington, D C in the surrounding area. Talk
if they were the alarm strong on the moon describe,
being what it's like to leave. The capture will, for the first time. Maybe they went for brunch from others day day
made their way into a restaurant went into a part
for half an hour before receiving themselves
in the home, and I just don't recognize it
I have to go that far. I just I don't recognize the description
of everyday life that I hear from my colleagues
national review. I don't recognize how you
living rich in how Jim is living in how matters
is living and how Phil client is living its its peculiar.
And yet I seem to be justice, angry passages them, even though its not particularly affecting me, because I think
that is so unnecessary now when we create,
did this
believable vaccine this miracle
magic, this innovation in a short period of time, relative to the normal production times. We ve got it into as many people as wanted, and the problem now is that, where out,
stripping demands with supply was so spoiled as a nation. He rhythm
Times every morning about
what's going on in India, I'm assuming
embarrassing, you read:
New York Times every morning about what's happening in Europe, but what's up
in Canada. Even and that's all
people here who said
maybe I'll get it. Maybe you- and I may not agree with me that is their right, but our problem is one of success. It it's one of wealth and surf it once
again- and I just don't understand why I'm talking to friends and
parts of the country and there still explaining how lockdown there
Businesses are their explain, my kids
in school and their explaining that they are still subject to masking rules.
and social distancing rules that we all know are necessary
there. I have come to the conclusion that we are now living through a period of collective madness,
and I say that as somebody who was quite happy to make some sacrifices,
in the early days who didn't oppose overspending, who has got both shots in fact today, I suppose unfairly vaccinated is too weak. Since I got my second shop who, as a mask when asked you by private businesses and by
local laws, but I now don't see the point I think, we're being ruled by mad men who simply cannot give up power. I would, of course, in cars
to get the vaccine. I did myself. I thought that was a good risk assessment, but if they don't while ass fine, that's their choice.
there is a free country, and they really is no excuse now to keep the rest of us are not me, thankfully, locked inside in order to block hate them the jam. It just seems
The view that the CDC is exceedingly cautious has begun to catch on much wider than that. The typical conservative critics of the CDC had a new tax
peace, David Leonhard today, shooting at the CDC because it it came out with some sort of guides- are statement saying that less than ten percent of transmissions outdoors and pointed out yeah. But that's like saying your sharks attack fewer than twenty thousand people year when one sharks attack
Build a hundred fifty people a year and as a summer camp guidance that full time pointed out that even Anti Anthea found she was gonna chuckling about on it on a tv
yeah so simple, maybe the worms turning here about here
was an interesting headline in box, dot, com of all places say
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ok, then you really don't need to worry too much about your risk. Covered deadline has got the vaccine expert
say you can relax about your covert nineteen risk now really and
listener should now managing this too rich red. Before we started. Taping pointed out that for box this is uplift lock
that they were originally challenging, but I'll bet Corbett, nineteen northern back, then we will get all the walk. Flew adds nothing to worry about,
you should be much more worried about the regular, flew it's only your xenophobia, the nascent worry about this, then you know by marching
they're, always know never mind go. This is really really serious and be very worried about this, and other back does not need to worry about it. I do think, but everything if you wanna get kind of depressed Tiggle the comments on the David Leonhard article over there, the New York Times, someone is pointing out that your work,
yes, but you let still greater than your chances of winning the lottery. Yeah
it was our anybody who is saying your chances of winning of catching orbit. Nineteen out
where's were less than your chances of winning a lottery they're, both prettier do it's one in Britain be roughly one in a thousand verses warning. A couple million I can live at the one in a thousand risk, in particular, from vaccinated meat is going to affect me all by knowledge. Might get some symptoms might be sick for a few days, but it's not gonna put me in the hospital and it's not gonna, kill me and that's it, that's really where we needed to get with this week.
Been of a German, does bank, the British National Lottery Slogan seem a little bit more sinister over that big hand comes in and they add and says it could be. I gotta get steered yet it could indeed be. You look brought for a long time to spend them. We ve been in this struggle between. I dont know whether, like pessimists, an optimist is the right way of thinking about this, but I will talk about this with great cumbersome through martini lunch earlier today, and they did this psychological study of people who were clinically depressed or who had serious psychological issues heading into this pandemic before the pandemic started and their their concern was like an old gobbled up like everybody. If these people had anxiety issues and all kinds of problems before imagine what they're doing like when we're in this pandemic and everybody's got a social distance, nobody's gonna, stay at home and stay in quarantine and only circumstances, and they found a significant chunk of the people were actually do it I'll guy doing better and they were kind of baffled by this result. They realise that a certain number of people who were
walking around with anxiety issues and fears that something terrible what's gonna happen and fears that the world is out to get them. Men- and just you know full of this, this constant sensation simply another. She was gonna drop at something bad gonna happen when it. Finally,
says in March twenty twenty some people feel better. Ok, it happened
Now, I'm done with their now. I do. The other thing is, I kind of wonder how many people walked around with these aims.
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cleaning everything and all it can to stop. I wonder how many people who walked around with this constant sense are probably neurosis or or constant sense of anxiety. The pandemic happens at appeals binned. If using oh, I was right,
I was right to feel this anxiety. I was not being paranoid, I was not being unrealistic. Ah, I was not scared,
my own shadow ice,
Something was coming this way and in fact I am wise, and now, thanks to the vaccines, we are finally emerging from this more than a year long ordeal, and there are some people, I think who aren't ready, let go, they were right, they felt right and they ve been able to exhibit just how good they are and how wise they
are now smart. They are- and yes, I'm very specifically thinking of the old lady who yelled at my wife, amid which we walking single file and not side by side right. There are people who clearly get a sense,
thrilled at you. I won't use the term Karen Carcinogenic, nice Karen's in my life, but just a set of business. This anxiety of this people were busily such project, their constant fear onto the road
To us into Wagner fingered, all of us to say reacting some ridicules, I have a feeling if you go to work for the CDC, your much more likely to have that kind of mentality than to save me. The kind of person who joy skydiving other weakens. I don't think I think the risk averse usually end up working for the CDC. I've always been agenda, but I've never felt morleys superior.
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Jacob was sending an official heavily
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the only then he interaction. I have with not normal is watching sports, for example, for custom states with very strict rules. I am going for heavily
I have to say the partial: why fans? It is just even if it's really partial, extremely spaced out it adds an energy. That's just was totally lacking in the empty stadiums.
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chronically understaffed, and she said she'd been there for three weeks
a day off, she was harem. What was supposed to be? They often she would be working for the next week without a day off too, because they just can't find people- and you could tell I couldn't find people because
of our food and drink so brought out by the manager, and some of it was borne out by the front of house
staff, and some of it was brought out by someone from the kitchen, but on the door there were ten jobs being advertised, and it's just true absolutely everywhere. Have you drive
up the coast, you'll get twenty miles of help, wanted and hiring signs, and this is
anecdotal joking about my preference for anecdotes to one
I, the beer of Labour statistics, says that there are seven point,
million open jobs. The National Federation of Independent businesses says that
There are millions and millions and millions of jobs. There are more jobs
the Wall Street Journal Open now than they were before the pandemic hit? But do we really think,
but we have rewired human nature. Do we really think we ve changed the boy
rules and laws of economics. This is not a republican talk.
Point is not a free market. Talking point is on a conservative talking point before that jobs report came out last week,
consensus among everyone. Economists left right
York Times was Post Bloomberg
the street journal was a million jobs added, and we got a quarter of that at best. It is the worst miss in the history of the jobs report and, of course, its because we are doing exactly the opposite.
of what we should be doing. We are sending out cash to people with which private
this is cannot compete, and it will be
one thing if we had a really tight labour market and people struggled to find work is because there
so many good options for those workers that they couldn't afford to attract them out, be one thing: if Jos Crap Shack can't find work is concerned,
these crab Shack will pay more. Ok, that's a great problem to have. It is something completely different when Jos Crapshoot Car hire people, because the
federal government will pay those people more not to work, but I think we need to do two things. I think
on! We need to end this now, whether that
Governance. Saying thanks for the
but we're not handing this money out or changing the way that is spent or the federal gum,
we're just cutting the money off it doesnt matter, but he's got to go and the second,
thing we need to do is create. As this
idle and cultural expectation that if you are able to work, you have to know you can't force people to do that, but you can look down on them.
and you can tell them that their deadbeats for choosing
This is a time I'm not talking about people who can't work most people can there
I think it is time for Americans to survive. We ve been through this difficult time. You know what go get a job.
Because he's helping nobody but we're subsidizing slot,
and no it is not the case, as Joe Biden has started, to say that the reason
but I'm going back to work is because we have an adopted this or that from his laundry list. Our federal priority
We are: disincentive, rising deliberately
I'm working, and then we shocked by the results. Well, we shouldn't be, I think enough is enough said Jim might. My fear is that the job number actually helps by because another strong argument against what he is doing is look the kind.
your. Currently, we don't need Europe to pump six trillion dollars entered to bolster a growing economy
facts economy- that's gonna, take off into the stratosphere bud
There was a sign that this criticism on the enhanced unemployment benefits is hitting home. That Biden felt compelled to come out yesterday and pushed back against it there. I was really wouldn't be weirder statements you ve seen for a present
recent memory where it comes out as others- absolutely no evidence that this is the case, but just to be sure, we're gonna make sure every state is making all these people back to work
Charlie now we're talking earlier today in the sense that I had figured that the reopening of
the car, the vaccination of folks and and the degree to which people would feel comfortable going.
about their lives going into restaurants, do and all the stuff they usually did before the pandemic was going to create huge managed economic activity,
and hiring would would take off and unemployment rate would drop in the GDP would skyrocket and everybody would feel really good.
This would provide a lot of cover for forbidden to enact a bunch of stuff that he wanted to do, because your,
You buy the one had richer right. On the other hand, this Ezida depict the conservatives. Do a pretty good argument. Look government screwed
open on the alleged around a table, the problems we have in spend money. It never crosses they're mine, the possibility that you're spending too much money and there's like three big indicators coming out.
The first was a jobs report came at last Friday and really shocked. People will see on that first Friday.
in June, with the main numbers are looks upon. You get one weird month
Maybe this is something pandemic related, maybe with just one month where hiring slowed.
But if you get two consecutive months, then all of a sudden it say well, ok alone. We really look at this
I believe, maybe at the time we finish this park. Yes, I know the uptake come from because customs and border protection, or the number of
southwest border encounters they bad. You may remember that
you know I had the most did more than a decade. It last month will see what the numbers for April were. If those numbers come
well, it's indicates okay. This is not a one month blip. This is not a seasonal issue. Binding
assessment of different policies for enforcement really did create this new giant incentive in lots of folks are fluttered the border and, I believe
tomorrow is when the consumer price index to come out that too, at the highest jump in about a decade and that'll be enough.
indicator of ok was just a weird month or we now seeing a real trend, and if you get two months of other consumer price index jumping and pointing to inflation, then all
the argument from the folks and the rights, and what are you doing? Stop spending all this money? You're gonna create inflation too much money chasing
few goods. You already starting to see this
Yeah, increasing gas prices, increasing lumber prices semiconductors you all these prices are stepping up and sending out.
stimulus. Doesn't do anybody any good if inflation just eats up their purchasing power, and I think that we
could be seeing Republicans and conservatives in general. In a
much stronger position to say hey instead of make things better buttons policies are making things work in about a month or two Emilio. Give you get several consecutive months of bad numbers on all these fronts. All
that, bind looks like he's in a much more trouble and already the bloom is off the rows of this in a fairly new presidency, so that speaking
unnecessary, counterproductive spending. We have buttons childcare and pre K proposals. Two hundred and twenty five billion on child care, two hundred billion on universal prick, hey this really tilt supplying feel towards an arrangement that surveys show
most parents dont favour when it comes to young children. Most parents want to have some sort of arrangement where there's one spouse working and another taking care of these very young, chill
and the evidence also is the pre on Pre K. There's some prepay programme set of had extraordinary success, but then
they tell me very small- they tend to be very expensive and they tend to be very hard to replicate and size up
and there's really disturbing research from kind of mass rushed Pre K, programmes of the sort that bind is clearly contemplating here. I wrote a call about this today and just that the research out of call back in the late nineties when, when they they they offered, I think us five dollars a day, precarious, something like that, but something that may come back the leader in kids and and these pre K programmes across.
Canada and the results were. A debacle is bad for children on every sort of metric. How long lasting damaging effects on most kids, and also so
I only had had the bad outcomes for parents Emmy. I fully agree that this is no appropriate of the federal government to intervene in this way. I mean where you're, essentially talking about is state sponsored, we're hastening of very small children.
I think as it as a conservative. I just haven't. I serve natural revulsion to that idea. Given the is fundamentally you fat, family life is, has got to be its own thing in a healthy society, though, of course, as you mentioned, at all sorts of situations, especially no where different at both parents will be working and they have to come up with some sort of flexible arrangements. But, as you also mentioned, the servies do seem to show fairly decisively that more
Married women prepare to have arrangement where there's one full time earlier in one state whom parent is at least when the when the children are very young, whose also an interesting way that this plays a across different socio economic classes. In some work is this: as some people work to Levin, others live to work and first for somebody who's is. We ve got
university or or trained in something vocational and drives a great deal of satisfaction from that they thought of going back to work is something that they want to do and, and
And then for other people, s, workers is something that peace, the bells, and they would be quite happy to to give it up if they could give up in order to to look after
they are children attend to their family and what we're doing here is very counterproductive in terms of interfering with, with those served natural choices that people left to their own devices make, as you mentioned, that there does not inspire confidence that Quebec family policy has worked well and there's no reason to think that the state can do a better job of raising your chosen than you can of course, again understands that childcare arrangements are things that every family has worked out or express for them, but this is just a one. Size fits all, and it's really just very unwise, the others
Some appear to me to this and forgetting his name. It smoke this Nobel Prize winning economists at the inverse ashikaga. I guess evident it seems like every economists universally coca, the eight you have to get a Nobel Prize at some point, but he wrote it
study that the long lasting positive effects of one of these as more pro
rams and he didn't interview with medium. A couple
ago, and he has asked about this. He's like I've. Never just don't make it
never been an advocate of universal Pre K. I think and hope that the most disadvantaged kids clearly
but no one's ever been able to quantify what the positive effects are of engaged in
negation, loving to parent family and the idea that you gonna fashion any government programme that is gonna, replace the hat or exceed that unity.
Saying is just the basically crazy, but
exquisite. You were
every. Your number was not what it was for for how much of this four trillion dollars and propose new spending. Joe Biden was events of last week or to make you believe that that the number will,
higher than what you thought lower than what you thought the same as what you thought lower than what I had thought because Democrats skittish about tax cuts, Washington Post, confirm this this morning Mitch because apparently been telling his Caucasus is a weakness for them. That will have a knock on effect of reducing how much spending the party is willing to bear, given that they would have to
borrow to sustain it, and the economic news has taken some of the wind out of the south, as has the risk
inflation which hasn't just increased but has come to the forefront of the poor,
but Imagination CNN, about all segments of the other morning. So I think we should open a seed design
spending. Some of it will be permanent, but I think that the four trillion dollar number is now
the table Jimmy anywhere. You hire lower the same.
lower and in fact, I think, really cares about having shake out at the next month, or so many parents whittlesey lorries,
I guess a lower, I don't think it's necessarily the job number, but I think it should be cutting become clear at the discomfort with spending and the taxing is much wider and a democratic party is in than just the one or two usual suspects with that. Let's hear from our third sponsor
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we've already gone on fairly long and this app. So I can hit the last topic here. Exit question style feel free to explain your answer a little bit more than usual, but we have seen push backs various places, Idaho, some school board, races against critical race theory curricula in the school's. How heartened are you by this development on a scale from zero to one thousand and nine particularly hard, and still very depressed about the strand? Ten, totally psyched medicaments
I want to see a seven, and I think that through this kind of hesitancy is, is fairly you find on the left as well as the right. So I think that's that's for encouraging. I was also encourage last year when California voted to reject proposition. Sixteen, which was the attempt to like by progressive to remove the provision in the state constitution, which stopped discrimination on the basis of race or gender and in employment and so on, and actually that was kind of an acknowledgement of the people pushing for that that this stuff is actually raises didn't discovered.
to hear so the air the people covered rejected that which was which is ever encouraging, and I M very encouraging that these very Cisco worker or doing the same thing you guarding the I put her on a sex. I don't think
It is part of a continuing process in which whoever wins a presidential election believes that they have won a mandate,
for a sweeping revolution of all aspects of american life. That is not the case. We ve just been through this big long, painful ordeal of a process or the pandemic. Any images once like to get back to
formal. If you have a role in government, it is not your job overdue, which are completely of sweep over everything from top to bottom. Just let people glutton live their lives, teach the kids, reading, writing and arithmetic Jacob come a ten, I'm totally site. I looked into the polling
came up yesterday and it's an absolute disaster for the advocates of critical race, their design.
There's nothing in America, on which eighty four
and the great nothing that is the number it's eighty twenty and as mighty says, it's not just conservative, the staunchest Republicans. There is a broad based opposition to this. There is a broad based support for the idea that the United States should seek to judge people based on the content of their character
the color of their skin. I think that if the left pushes is too hard, they will pair a real price for it and not just among those who already disposed against them so totally site that every single instance of push backing it says by I'd. Put my number at about four
I just I'm not sure if cultural phenomena like is it just how much of matters you know. There's this. Eighty, twenty and readable rigour
tat, students and in Idaho and ends some some other places, but it just get a seat in lakes.
how many other places
This is a really small thing, but my wife is buying a present for a bit David present or something for for a friend from the sacks
website mistake I'll, go! Look! I gotta get kids book to and was look and not not that most people, obviously UNICEF
isn't going to overcome Amazon is an online books are but she's just looking these books in their they're, all race obsession all equity upset,
and there's somebody institutions that God, you know we have elected school boards and you can throw the bastards out.
and he had senses. But there are so many other aspects of of elite life and institutions to adjust our art subject to those those kind of grassroots controls, so up top I'm wrong and- and maybe should be harboured, put it out of four and with that, let's hit a few other things before we go Jim Gary, you watch the Mitchell's versus the machine, Mysteries
means. Yes, plural arms is on Netflix, it's made by the guys who made the Lego movie Lord and Miller,
observe, Lego movie was brilliant and then each successive Lego themed movie with a little less entertaining. This is just a return to form for these guys. Just basically, your tip
All you know: conflicted family, the oldest daughters, can radio after college logic,
mention in the house, and that there be no as as one Hap has tabled at the worst- can happen to any of us on any given day. Are there
massive robot uprising by an artificial intelligence. So it's just like a happy cheerful, Pixar, the Terminator and they the family, learns to come together.
We watch this late on mother's day when things had not quite gone according to plan for much of the day, and it was perfect exactly what the Gary family needed. If your family's looking for a good fun time from the tv, I recommend that an mattie of rediscovered the treaty and delicately yes, I so Benny
it is from Glasgow Scotland, as my Andy, I was having a hard day. I just did it to laugh, and so I thought who is funny Billy Congolese, whenever I shall come across him out. So I ended up on this same youtube. Rabbit whole just watching his.
it touches on flying and as one an opera is just who areas, and it is amazing that bit the comic gift is an amazing thing to watch, because it's not just what he says so funny, even though it is, is all these wild.
I do think receive that just come out, and this really bizarre it I'll expect we at it. Just everything he said is funny you can't you could read out of the back this year, a box, and it would just be so funny and that's it that's a rearguard, so it says cables watch so m. Get anyone. Can it's love? I recommend bellicose. You may have trouble with the accent badly. Then it gets a big, fairly easy
No, I subtitles ray you're. Actually some of them do have some table so that having some titles made
this comedy added luxuries about the time it is, is the timing I he also. He swears a lot, but he's one of the few people who swears about he can make this charming, so am yeah, but I highly recommend and Charlie. You ve been reading the children's buckles of ruled Roald Dahl. I have my favorite offers a kid remember. I was such a firm when he died
in nineteen. Ninety my parents took me out for dinner to tell me, then you that I would be devastated. I now have the chance to share the books with my.
Kids, I'm starting with the smaller ones, so we ve done the giraffe, the Pelee and me, and were currently on Georgia's marvellous medicine, but it's as much a trade for me to reread these and dual their voices as it is for the kids. I really can't let a reference children's. Let us forget, without hearing the authoritative take on this author from surgery.
I was asked about this before before you started. Recording am, I do enjoy certain books overall dolls and I have some other thoughts that are too long. They will go into here, but I approve of a couple of his books. If I'm lobbies that phrase I will
now say: recommend of them are very dark. What was it?
raise, you're not allowed to use approve from all of them approve again affect families have little tyrannical by yes, some of them made a flop, Jameson the don't teaches, isn't it
but one situation seen those extraordinary? That's the the capsules living in here, the mechanical door that had been hermetically sealed.
for a year slowly lifted and I entered the atmosphere and went to a local restaurant and sat in doors and ate a meal unmasked. Of course,
and it was those really nice got just see. A friend had had hadn't seen in more than a year and there's just no substitute for being around people in Algiers.
The closest to us, but there are other larger parties and there was a pause in the end, the place and it those real nice to get that taste of
or malady fine lay now time in the park? Casper utters picks massacre, and what's your pick, my pick is peace by Cameron held its called how critical race?
They re works. Ah you view that was my
Well, maybe we can both pic? I don't know what the rules are this typical wisely
privacy right so yeah.
Its issues very typically thoughtful where research, peace.
exactly what it says. The headline explains how this works in white so pernicious and have its basically wait, supremacy, so just inverted but justice, odious and in many respects, so highly recommend that disability what's your book, so I could pick covered williamsons writing pretty much every day and every week, Bertha isn't it
of the Tuesday. For my money, the second best newsletter national view puts out infrastructures. Infrastructure is really good to talks about the gas pipeline issues with colonial power
wineholics. Forty five percent of suitably supply to the EAST Coast has been cut off. Any lot of folks are saying: hey. You know. This is why you might want to build some redundancy
the system. This is why ears infrastructure, the Republicans, would probably be perfectly fine with, but he also ties it back to the storms that shut down Texas earlier this year. That he's points out containers disappear,
for the new cycle and he had represents. Look. We have a choice. Do we want to pay the price in Vienna in expanding our energy systems now or do we or do we accept? The risk of one of these systems goes down in these last people, without heat or without oil, without energy for a long stretch, and if that is the question that none of them before the country in a lot people
Dont want to confront this question so just yet typical cabin Williamson wit and wisdom, and everybody should read it. Tell me: what's your pic Molly was
going to become a hell, because it is very probable in the last three minutes searching the web site, something now I'm going to go,
the Daniel Tenor errors, capital and bowed to the product. The capital matters vertical puts out.
Daniel, this extremely funny, as well as being knowledgeable about economic matters in his written the script,
in all this cyber attack on the pipeline that runs up these cursed and its tongue in cheek extremely dry. He does
I the hackers, spinning being socially responsible because they keep it
at the strange, keep putting out these
these strange missives, but he does it in such a way
as to barely conceal the tongue in cheek and its,
amusing, an informative at the same time, thereby take
is David mammoth column and, let's print issue.
NASH, Review and I'm just mentioning cuz. I don't think we brag enough about the fact that one of the foremost playwrights in America Rice a regular column for national review of all things
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