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if you're vaccinated wit, need where mass inside or outside what do you make of it you know, there's something just please embarrassing about cdc and its response throughout this pandemic. Right, up until yesterday, right from me, the first document they issued took as its first concern american racism against Asians as the primary firstly, to danger corona virus to this two days ago, Rochelle whence he was on tv, getting emotional, explaining that she wasn't going to send her vaccinated teenagers to summer camp, because there were dangers and that you know we had to follow

guidance on outdoor masking and then two days later, she announced, as with a smile on her face Laker end an almost like him, attaboy, like that he's finally here guidance to put away the mask if you're vaccinated and it it was just And I think for many people we are seeing A lot of people who kind of have wrapped their personal and political identity. Ground. Colonel irish restrictions- seemed bewildered by this, We see you know people saying that, like let go somehow of judging other people that they see in public who aren't wearing masks has previously they judged the mess.

selfish or dangerous or a threat so I just thought it was bad, and frankly I mean. I don't know about anyone else. where I am most be, who, when they even where mask their wearing, a single layer, Jersey, cotton in a reasonable. We wash my mask, which I mean. haven't found a study that says that that's effective against and aerosol born virus site. I wonder to if I have a sneaking suspicion met, in a way this announcement and tying it to vaccine, take up is a little bit of a way of backing away from masks altogether and winning everyone offer them ethic. What one thing that, with the fullness of time, has been proven

someone who is involved very early in the trumpet deliberations about what to do about this coming pandemic? No one really knew was here yet this was at the time of the China Travel Ban, which is a little older, was quite what was, but this guy said just everyone in a white lab metaphorically everyone for the public health establishment was just terrible. Is there just terrible on this question of whether you try to stop people from coming over China and, as we discussed on this package last year. The populace sceptics of the experts have always cover themselves and in glory, but but the the experts either, and many awesome surprised, fearsome, anecdotal evidence that Charlie has do is compelled by the sacred consists for the sake of consistency, fine compelling, but my wife was outside were this morning and somewhere aware

Yesterday, the day before most people wearing masks and suddenly almost no one wearing mass. So us kind of surprise by that goes by theory. It always been peoples but to make their individual risk calculations. It doesn't matter quite what the rules are. The public pronouncements are but simulators pronouncement landed with people. Yeah it's interesting. I thought it was interesting that by then said that the choice is you wear masks if you ve not been vaccinated, but you don't need to hear one if you having vice, then he also follow this up with over. You must became to people who are wearing mask because you don't know reason that there, where you mascot do you have any reason that they have not been vaccinated, or at least that's how I took that and it just this idea of moral judgment gets very confusing very quickly. I've I've seen it happen both ways I've been in through through the pandemic. I've been in her and I can read bubble knotted to some five

two crudely in political terms, but where people wearing masks and satisfying the hands of a few minutes that there's a hit, Judgment with the group by men. Were there like wicked those cowards over there lay. Why can't I just love like normal you and then also that the opposite, which is people who art? Where must it too, to have a judgment that their selfish and irresponsible it make said and really that The reality is you just you just don't really know what's goin, unless people literally way a mask that says on it. I've been vaccinated, which our colleague fell, Clayton was was telling us this morning, he'd seen which we talk about choose signalling. This is no vaccine, signalling back Don't worry, I'm not one of those crazy people who doesn't want to get vaccinated, I'm just where you mask to be extremely exciting. It say

it's all, but might really. I think that it did. They were at a point where this is. This is the best we could have hoped for it. We ve got an effective vaccination rule out. An effective vaccine is as far as we do on this point. We don't really needs government restrictions. Am we're, maybe not quite yet heard immunity yet, but we're we're certainly on track for Andy. It's is a personal choice, but but people are responding to Today, the incentives into to the campaign to to get as many people via state is possible saw em. Yet I do not really sure what what clarification the CDC actually offers it. I don't I don't know how many people looked to the CDC. Is there their moral leader in all this are there or their science leader in a whisper, am yeah joy.

I think, is completely horizon. It reflects the terrific leadership from President Rhonda Santas Biden is catching up with the rest of the country's catching up with Florida is catching up. Taxes is catching up with most places. I daresay your anecdote makes sense when you are, but in most of the country the announcement last night was met with Sir Alan saw laughter. People went thrilled by it because it had no effect on their lives. they weren't following the cdc anyway. If they had trusted the CDC at all, which, broadly speaking, for a while now they should not have What we saw yesterday was the the fall out from a bad political, weak,

president a week in which people were worried about inflation in which they were temporary Ass lines and spikes in prices are weak, in which the unemployment numbers started to raise serious questions about enhanced unemployment, insurance and the wisdom of sending in numbers of checks to people, and so the CDC changed its guidelines. There is no scientific change is no change in the data. Is a change in the infection rates or transmission race or severity of correct the virus is no meaningful change in the number of people who had been vaccinated. This is clearly a bullet. call decision, I want can tell it was a political decision, because at the same time round Wine gardens criminal enterprise decided that it would drop it

actions to teachers in the United States, doing their jobs. Why? Because it to can see the writing on the wall and all of a sudden we have real political questions and real political pressure we have pending election in Virginia seems possible that that well tat on how many schools are open and we have a democratic party this reaching and in full. In point in its power at some point, good times, will be the primary focus and we have public, to me that shifted not only on mosques but on teachers in schools, to the point at which The CDC and the F tease position was untenable, and so Joe Biden Come around to the position held by Governor Abbot, governor dissenters and

as I see this, as, among other things, an indictment of the hall fairy of progressive government, which is that we should leave, are intrinsically political. since two experts and they will be able to divorce those intrinsically political questions from the detail. I've been, to examine? That is impossible? There is no way of doing that. There is a reason that representative government works and that supposedly disinterested government by experts does not an although there has been a role throughout this pandemic for experts cause and although ultimately, experts have solved our problem by creating this miracle vaccine be fundamental questions. Of resources, allocation and individual Liberty will have to be and have been resolved by good old fashioned political considerations and whether there

method or not. What you saw last night was the politics catching up, so anybody. What do you make that Randy Weingarten statements people point out their escape clauses in it various condition. And for this for reopening us, happen in the fall conveniently this comes as squares, beginning to the end most places, but sad thing. conditions around distant, saying and other things that some people worry war will be used once again to try to forestall of for reopening and in various places it. What do I think I mean before even think in others what I feel right like rain widen garden, a child hostage taker. So the first thing I feel like I want to reach into a holster we're metaphorically, obviously,

a podcast here not become an essential due to range, but I mean This is the teachers. Unions have been an absolute disgrace. I mean if you ve, seen Teachers, unions in Chicago send out communiques to their members, basically telling them you know you have. More just so you know you have options on the table. If you aren't vaccinated You know, in other words, a word advising you but kind of advising you not to tell the school districts you're vaccination status, because it gives you more leverage leverage for what leverage from out doing your job. Lots of people are return. To work returning to offices Two people never left work. I mean what were a year in lots of people, never left work

We have all the data on school, reopen around the world with what we find them robust studies is that schools do not transmit their. There may be a slight uptake and transmission. in an area when schools reopen, but their transmission isn't happening in the schools. It's happening among the adults who are free or to interact and to do their jobs into work when their children are in school. covered is no more dangerous for its less. interest for children than the flu then it really is less than the flu as a threat and yet until yesterday, members of teachers, unions, we're talking about homer room like it was the some of it is any, is ridiculous, but of course like this,

in a way this all had to happen for exactly that reason. Charlie points out, which is that at some point Joe Biden has to be able to declare victory ate like this was his promise was to take care of the pandemic and taking care the pandemic mean schools are open, taking care pandemic means restriction. Our normal life are being lifted rapidly, and we saw this week that This is starting to happen. Belatedly, injustice is either teetering position is totally eroded in the face of of not just what's best practice across pure nations, but in this whole districts that are open and that have been operating normally you're fighting

the kids are getting ahead of their peers, who are stuck on remote learning or who are, you know, basically have been abandoned by their school districts in other there not showing up even to remote learning or distance learning. So yeah, I mean really Weingarten is going to go to him- is one of the great villains of this pandemic and deservedly so somebody there has been a lot of mistakes made during the course of this pandemic, So, which made a most which undermined given the circumstances how little we knew, but schools thing just very early on it was clear. This is a massive overreaction and then very quickly. It was just a scandal and a travesty, and that that this is some sort of victory that to have this statement from renewal

Weingarten after a year of bad educational, social site, psychological outcomes for kids that were totally unnecessary is truly infuriating. Yeah meeting the view victims in this are, of course, the children and especially children who come from less well off backgrounds are don't have really strong only support in family structure and visit. You know this is something that a mistake that has been repeated in many countries. I was chatting recently to teacher in Scotland to the government has been set thirdly, all over the place, they are similarly can of overreacting and putting politics before the interests of and there she was saying that that the gap between the attainment gap between the two children, who are your put from pursed backgrounds versus those it private schools, investment, has just become even

either, because doing this online learning is really not easy to do. If you dont have access to technology, which the state does very bad job of of pervading, where it says it when it recognizes it, that's the problem, and also, if you don't have mom and dad over your shoulder thing. Do your homework. Do this. Do that you can't expect a child to understand the immensity of the importance of their education and to do v self sufficient and that that is the rule over teacher anarchy, when they are in control of that dynamic and control of that environment. They can. They can see, what's going on yours at joke, that teachers are supposed to have like eyes on the back there, but but actually at the top briefly bear before we had struggles, and they there is. There is something very physical about your colleagues are moving around. You guess ends of the children who are struggling you're able to over

and those are those are things that cannot be replicated? That cannot be substituted for and in an online context. The I'd there's also, since I feel that certain jobs are so important that an end vocational that the they should they should it. People should expect that if there is a crisis or something that you need to Kenneth Rice, the occasion we ve seen this in the medical profession, people were picking themselves at risk in order to respond to two covered to treat covert patients. Being very brave and courageous. But of course, and should be applauded for that. But, of course, that's part of what what you take on when you, when you say not to be healthcare, workers sate up to be a doctor nurse or whatever, and the same thing goes when you say up to be a teacher that is incredibly important. Job on

yes they're there. Maybe that's the rest, but if you are able to give our stated, am I don't see why you would you be so reluctant and of course, that this, where the union's coming in in fulfilling that absolutely vital source RO, especially at a time where children are really struggling and so Anyways I mean this is not just about skill is not just about education over, so that's very important is also about that structure that reaching that enter peer contact, which is crucial to child's development, so he, I think that the whole thing really is Travesty exquisite new Charlie Cook read the performance of the CDC during the course of this pandemic, beginning with its marched tat.

out of the game to yesterday's announcement from zero to ten zero bismarck. Ten, most Exxon and a three Fold: Urban, some good moments, but right from the beginning, is focused on the wrong. Things has been unable to present a coherent line and has been obviously cowed by political pressure. Emily mean I think, city seas,. What what are the grades. We do what's the range here, the tenth, zero being terrible. You really weren't listening. It always remain some two all to ten most excellent. I think so she's been link up three. I guess that's what I said.

Sorry for interrupting whatever you do, my person doing a pod cashmere make making something you're, making a drink or ever caught her by going. This reminds me of the old days when, when I'd run their and our own editorial meetings and we'd be around accomplish report, say I'll write about the CDC lifting its mass mandy and try would say this. Is there no one had thought, no one invention, hardly anyone right about the safety of sea lifting his master in the new. This will come back to by adding Many keeping at San and one so far said three. This is actually taking me back to my desert in the classroom, where you were a child on the spot and legislate at that point asbestos to be honest, I wasn't listing. I was the signal and I'm going to see a six just because I think that I don't know why. But I still think it is an important role and that

If there wasn't the cdc, we may be kind of worse off it in some ways. It essentially in terms of the assets of panic. I think we have a role in making people feel that camera, like the situation under control. Hence the word control, so I would even the six check up one one point from try and Michael just to Turkey. For difficult circumstances, but otherwise it's been. It's been pretty busy. So without let pause here from our first sponsored, this episode a see tee. It's time, stop running blank cheques, your alma mater and start giving wisely. The american Council trusty isn't alumni or a city. It shows how intelligent targeted, giving can bring a much needed course. Correction to campus clear. Their nations colleges and universities are adrift, to say the least, cancer cultures, rapid,

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now includes people who live in Israel on on the far end, and they are and have been bring down in reinforced rooms and in fear of rockets being fired into them and they have been also insanely, proud of it, response, and particularly of the the proof. You know that the very good but not perfect performance, of their iron dome defence system, which everyone can Kennedy. Look at them amazing pictures on line and videos of these missiles just intercepting rockets. It's the future work, It's a little bit like watching a cavalry charge into a machine gun like that, the level of river the advancement- and you know, there's

there's an intractable each this conflict. In that I. I fully understand and basic as support IRAN's right to defend itself, but I I M dubious of the argument that Israel can we in the Palestine, in living. In the Gaza Strip away from. Hamas. In these we know what these fantastic shows of force and resolve. You know it's just very deep to do that. My ma in some ways Hamas halls these people captive and you know Palestinians don't have a functioning,

system system really even a functioning society in Gaza that can provide other mature political options. So I expect a pretty bloody, an awful conflict and you know, of course you have naturally wonder if This is not just that the flare up of this conflict isn't just the result of the pandemic, starting to really a beat in Israel. oh, but also changeover in american administrations and the kind of test of how much support Abiden administration, give an israeli government that is taking harsh action The rest of the world, the rest of the world it is condemned. Israel unreservedly and in an odd arms to because

personally as someone who's, mostly disgusted by Warfare- I never see these combinations of Turkey or Saudi Arabia when, engage in harsh action against the Kurds or the humanities, and much harsher action. Were there. Starving or gassing people, but Israel is held to this very exalted standard. So anybody I haven't, had a lie about Israel. An on the spot cast over last couple years are other than have been much more pressing, so you haven't gotten their taste, failure of Where are you are on this? So you you're generally Pelion an app pelikan in six, specially foreign policy, but I do not share the Pelikan Tennessee to believe, though, that our policy is way too overweighted towards Israel and away that's harmful torture,

So I hope you know have actually been a little bit on a journey on this issue is not just, of course, in a changing family. competition at the edge, but basically I still, I am somewhat sky. the goal of the effect of America's full throated support, particularly conservative governments in Israel? and what that costs us much more liberal, though, like I'm in the sense of Israel, should do what they it is in their own best interests and they should take proportional. Action to achieve their ends, and they may be doing that right now, but my sympathy, change the little bit in.

in over the years watching one. The Sharon government take the drastic and ugly and difficult action of evacuating israeli settlers from Gaza, which was paid for them to do and politically treacherous and it led to nothing and then also years later, in twenty fourteen as their when there was other missile attacks, from Gaza into Israel. I just and, at that time, in my life, to be listening to a lot of news rate. from Europe, and Asia was utterly scandalised by what I've I proceed is basically open. Anti Semitic, some and realise that this debate about Israel was complex. That innocence Europe has decided that the lesson of World WAR two was that nationalism is evil,

and having a state that protects the interests that is strong enough to protect the interests of a nation, a national group and F. nationalist group is the evil that kind of began the war whereas Jews anxiety, ass. They concluded from the nineteenth century and beforehand that The nation state was exactly what they needed, exactly the thing that they had lacked and had made them vulnerable to people that want to exterminate them. and I realize in that debate. I am wholly on the side of Israel that the nation state is still a proper good

and it's a legitimate way of organizing a society- and I M so that that did kind of move me a little bit on this issue. Many yet so. I think this ticket to go back to that particular manifestation of this conflict right now. My understanding is that this is part of the writing is primarily about the possible eviction of I've, positive families living alone that had been taken from jewish families em in the in the late nineteenth fortys- and this is this- was a case brought to the judicial system by private citizens and Ben Educators, and an independent court did take for more than fifty years to let a gate so too. To put the whole way of this very old.

tents, conflict on this one situation is unfortunate and I think that's inevitable in terms of Israel versus Hamas, but it's not necessarily now inevitable here in Erika and I was really struck with the way that the squad, especially especially outside your Cassio Critias, take issue with binding statement that Israel has a right to defend itself against. This just seems to be to be the most moderate basic statement you could make with regard to what is obviously a very tense situation and conflict, and again I think we see on the progressive left, this inability to distinguish between saying, on the one hand, that the Israel has a right to exist and the right to defend itself and not not seeing that its is unacceptable.

To precise Netanyahu or the israeli government's policies, or or or even ruling out the two state solution or opposing expansion of jewish settlements in the West Bank. All of that is perfectly legitimate and doesn't necessarily make you an anti semite, but to just see that to have this hostility to even a simple statement such as Israel has a right to defend itself suggest something brute, perhaps more pernicious, and this is something we ve seen. Obviously from others and the Democratic Party, for example, even or are saying, we feel this moral equivalence in saying that the air strikes her an act of terrorism on day. She has previously said for that. Israel has hypnotized. The world is very unfortunate language, please, into a very old and nasty conspiracy theory of of as I was always persuaded by the argument made by Billy Jonathan sacks added the former,

british rabbi, who he basically heedlessly said. You know with what you ve got to understand about Anti Semitism. Is that a constantly hates right. So in the middle ages, Jews were hated for their religion. In the nineteenth and twentyth century they were heated for the race, and today there heated for their nation states. So when, when you encounter this belief, as is as very common among progress, is now this idea that Jews have no right success collectively as Jews with the same rights as other people the focus is primarily on the jewish. I didn't see, even though hides behind words, Lake Zionist and arrested, and it's it's quite simple from the sacks explains it that it'll Judea was their first and then had the serene empire, Babylonians Persians, ruins contains. I'm gonna message people but holy roman crusader is all the way up to the US,

friends, and then the british and the already indigenous inhabitants- and they have they- have got this identity for the rain that, and even if you just consider the fact that there is like nearly a hundred sixty christian majority countries islanders like nearly sixty muslim ones, and you have one jewish state you. And understand why they feel so strongly about it. So I just think that this type of rhetoric, this very, very aggressive rhetoric that you do get from progressive and needs to be resisted, although I also with would qualify all this with what makes us

which is that- and this is very complicated- and I am by no means the in house experts on this stuff so as perfect circulated, Charlie hoop prior to a starting to record this package on earth chewing everywhere. Topics we discuss Charlie promised us extremely simplistic views. Israeli Hammas Catholics are Charlie, please don't just point doubt that our disappointment? I am not an expert on foreign policy. I do I believe that if you are attacked, you have a right to defend yourself and that, as far as I can see is what has happened. Hey have people, discriminatory lobbying rockets into Israel. Is railways permitted not only to try to stop those rocks

It says it is doing where it come of this extraordinarily impressive, I'm down technology, but to try to stop more rockets being locked in And if this were happening in Texas from Mexico, the historical dispute there in California from Mexico as a historical dispute there, it would be clear what the United States had to do in response. I don't understand why it is not here

this, I suppose. In the same way ass I see the British responds to the argentinean invasion of the Falklands. I don't particularly care if there is a historical dispute over the land. The falcons in nineteen eighties were british territory as they are now. It's no difference between Argentina invading the Falcons and invading Kent. The british government had a responsibility to protect the citizens living in the falcons much ass. It would have been in vain and had taken place in London or Manchester Clause guy. The israeli government has a responsibility to protect its citizens from people who are trying to kill them. I'm interested to learn more about the region, the history, the geopolitics or what you well, but it seems

May that has to be the first position and again as somebody who doesn't have a nuanced view of this or particularly educated view of this, I am surprised that that not itself, is seen as a controversial statement. Anybody, exquisite Jew who will win this flare up in this long running struggle, Israel, Hamas, neither I think I'll go I'll, go more specific, I think be net who and Hamas both wind from I'm an open fight. I think Hamas getting a few, markets to land will reassure its sponsors, and, I think, maybe Netanyahu. and I ve been hanging on by a thread,

is really political. Life has other crisis and which will help and if it from a rallying effect. So those are, I think they both when Mary I'm gonna, see neither try Israel's going to win. They have a remarkable defence system and much more impressive technology offensive as well as he is clearly gonna. Be Israel that Hamas strategy of popping up with his rocket attacks, attacks, which are largely ineffectual, actually making Israel shop, and a lot of Israelis. Shelter in place achieves some some destruction A lot of these missiles are intercepted and then the the huge amount of the Hamas infrastructure is wrecked by it is

really military strikes. The only strategic sense here is if somehow all this could be a public relations tobacco for Israel or drive a wedge between it and the eyes hidden and other allies, but I don't see that happening in this interests an instance, so it Israel will win, but obviously this is a along ongoing struggle, so that was pause in here from our second sponsor this week. babble for most of us learning a second language in high school college wasn't exactly a high point in our academic careers. That was certainly true of me. I took two years of German in high school two semesters, I believe or two years. I can't you remember of German in college, and I wasn't that great and I'd know

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I was mostly confused by the federal government's response, I'm still confused by the federal government's response. You have here an attack on a piece of infrastructure that is, by any definition, interstate calm, ass that is important to the national economy, that effects intrinsically federal cans, and airports, for example, I believe it's the primary fuelling for the airport in Atlanta, which is the nations busiest, and there are national security implications.

as well, and yet the White House seemed primarily to consider this ass, a private matter. It did respond, loosen some rules surrounding the transportation of fuel. It assembled a team to look into the question, but when asked the core Inquiry, which is what about the ransom it said. Well, that's a private concerned. Now I am a citizen is now The Terran minded sort of person. I don't think federal government should do much. This is why we have one and this would have been, God, it is a matter for the federal government by James Madison by by George Mason, maybe,

the attack seems to have originated in another country, whether the russian government did. It is irrelevant. one in Russia outside the United States, seems to have perpetrated this that it became the federal government. The pipeline runs through twelve thirteen states that implicates the federal government, the consequences on national that implicates the federal government and yet the language, rough body in rats. Private concern- and I dont know what are the second since that would have been the case when a train is hijacked.

the federal government steps in and takes over, it doesn't say what the train companies private it's up to it when a child is kidnapped, the federal government of its national hunt or the state government of its. In one place, steps in doesn't say: well, families or private. I guess it's up to the parents, whether they pay the ransom and yet The administration seem uninterested in this question, and we now learn that the pipeline did pay the ransom, which presumably It will encourage further. And some web attack, so I've been a little bit perplexed, the watch a president who seems to believe that everything is infrastructure. Everything who wants to take over huge swayed if the economy early subsidized them

who seems to have absolutely no conception of private life in a way that a conservative would understand it, and yet when we had a genuine infrastructure challenge- and this was one and that president was apparently deeply worried about the likely political ramifications of that challenge, he demurred- I was mostly confused. this, and I'm curious as to whether this sort of attack, and presumably they will increase in frequency fits in to President binds conception of his

so anybody have you thought about what the solution is to these kind of tax would seem seem likely we're gonna suffer more than going forward rather than less, and if we don't know for sure, but indications are that this is the case with the German saying that these were private actors operating in an eastern Europe and Russia, but that there are indications of a russian government connection but surely hostile. foreign governments are looking at this. We ve seen intrusions from from Russia and in many ways a prior to this and has has potential be really damaging to our country. Also, two ways. you're always noticing come, you know, maybe the ministration, what I've rouse itself. Action if this hacker group and placed an

Flattering meme about Hillary Clinton on Facebook, rather than shut the gas across happy eastern Seaboard, have you tweet. No, but I'd be commands is this week. This was written dick, you Louis I it for other Charlie outlined so calmly and authority natively, as is his want I would say the same hysterically and angrily raw data, but not necessarily coughs. It was common market without that was that was in the United States. Some of our essential infrastructure is held by private hands. Someone in new burger who is in charge of the white houses cyber response team comes out and just says these are private sector decisions as Flake extortion were just a kind of international extortion over

energy supply were just the kind of private contract why, other than a national security threat I couldn't believe what I was hearing and down. That was embarrassing. I mean this is gonna, be solved. It basically is solved, and in a few days the supply of gas in the South EAST, the United States and prices will be in adjusting back to where they would be normally so like right. It's not gonna be quite like the nineteen seventies, but I was just more shocked by the kind of shambolic in Lee

see sounding response. I mean I just felt unbearably third world of us to kind of sea the White House just wash its hands of a potential crisis like this, and you know Do I even believe that state actors involved I'm not even sure. I believe that it would be more embarrassing for the fine White House, if their if this was state directed in some way I just I just thought it was an embarrassing testimony whose it is there an adult in charge anywhere in the White House. I don't think there is make arms exports to you? How worried are you about cyber attacks? Against? U S infrastructure going forward,

da mildly. Moderately were keep you awake at night. Sake keeps me awake at night and day. It's is interesting. Swift. We talk. What law on this point cast about infrastructure and tightens approach, unwise approaches wronged, fixer his infrastructure bill puts everything but the kitchen sink in there, we have actually said before and not review editorials, that there are genuine areas of reform and targeted reform, and I think this would definitely be one of them. I mean this is a serious worry that there's this vulnerability he too cyber attacks on Dame. If it you said, you know this, this could harks back to the to the seventies. Or are you know that this kind of intrusion

and so this is obviously an area where you could find by Parson sport for doing something about it. I do have in front of me from the White House there's a dead. The Biden horse menstruation has launched an all out government effort to redress the colonial pipeline and sin, and if you school right down to the section on infrastructure, it's not at all clear what that effort involves em, but it is clear that there needs to be a serious effort to not at all mildly moderately. Keep you awake moderately. I think that we will react

to these attacks. We will learn from them. It was a little bit amusing, see colonial immediately put out an advertisement for cyber security experts. Honey. I didn't have one, I don't think it another cup, like it will make that mistake again, and our technology will end up superior to the technology that is used by hackers so I would say, I'm moderately alarmed the reason it's moderately is. I don't expect to see the sort of thing happen every day, but there is always the risk of a one off event that is spectacularly destructive out. It's gonna take down the grid someplace for significant pressure time here for their money as my latent fair NBA, journeyed repeater. No none- and I got this one. I moderately worry.

about cyber attacks on our infrastructure. Sure, but I would hasten to add, I'm kept up at night by general state of american infrastructure, where we are first room country and yet power is not reliable in one of the richest states. California, and one of our other richest states, Texas, had major power outages last year, there were hugely disruptive because we have an inability to invest wisely in this field, it's been a problem for years and in some ways and our inability to invest wisely is why were somewhat in vulnerable to too many attacks, because few systems are modernized enough to be attacked by a cyber intruder,

yet there are some me with the EAST Coast blackout from whatever was seventeen years ago. I said for days it was hugely disruptive and you know our political class and our Congress is out here, arguing whether you know diversity, equity collusion. Training for toddlers is infrastructure, while Brigitte is in power grids are in disrepair. It's embarrassing. Yes, am I under serious serious part of the spectrum on that? The moderate answer so moderately, but this is this- is a vulnerability is ever seen and we want to be sure that we have the they were hard during our instruction have the ability to to hit hit back against his kind of cyber pirates and and especially,

Malines foreign actors, Sir, without they paused, is really quickly have their and our plus plug in a little while and our plus course, the digital subscription service at National review, dot com, your ticket, pastor, metered, pay all your ticket to, and almost entirely ad free experience on, NASH, review, dot com and your way to comment on blog posts and articles that floats your boat will cost you much. We have great first time introductory offers running at any given moment may because you five dollars a month or something like that as much as a cup coffee at Starbucks and is a way to get deeper into the national community and to support our journalism. So if you have signed up already, please join ten,

thousands of your fellow NASH Review readers and do it today, so let's hit a few other things before we go marry. You bring more news of your famous uncle Frank. I do, as I said before, referred recording the his life just a lot more interesting than men, so hence hence all the stories, but as for, as the remainder Uncle Frank, is at ninety seven he's my great uncle right, but Canada Honorary Grund grandfather as I lost my Gobrias courtyard and he's retired, nay, but before he retired he was an american diplomats in various places during the cold war, one of those places wars- Moscow in nineteen, fifty nine- and I was right reminded of this story because he recently was contacted by, school history teacher in Scotland, where he's no retired, who asked him to

I share some of his experiences and one of the stories you told was about being stay. and in Moscow in nineteen fifty nine at the embassy there and colleagues of his was discussing what to do. They were trying to figure it out Stu about a young American who hide showed up asking to revoke his american citizenship and become a russian, and they face Washington at the time was that you were supposed to council, people. Tat really consider whether this was in their best interests at the back government wanted Americans back in America not in the Soviet Union, and so my uncle Frank told his colleagues that this would be the best advice. So he he did that and this young man came back later and said that he changed his mind and he would like to return to America. So here

EL obeys background he'd been in the Marines and had been going without a russian growth and marriage. Russian grow maybe had a child sweating uncle Frank thought. That was good, because that was device Washington solely because his passport sorted and he whispered in America and that young, was Lee Harvey Oswald who went on to shoot President Kennedy so sad, pretty studying brush with with history there. What? If what, if many fascinating Great stories are certainly more interesting than anything I've been up to recently so thought. I refer here that I am a little bit confused by this story cause. I don't understand why TAT Cruises Father fits into. Yes, he doesn't

I'm afraid I certainly do try to tap that with by telling us I been listening to David Byrne, so David Byrne is recording on its most popularly known as the front end. Over talking, heads can elite seventies, early eighties, new wave and funk outfit and I've been a big fan of his views, and I just saw twitter today the teams his birthday. So all the morning I had just been playing my favorite David Byrne records. I got into a man as a teenager and he was a solo artist but over a record feelings and down I'll. Just guess gets me up in moving, and so were. I just, I think, as we recording a post of mine when upon the corner, with a few of my favorite videoed performances that he's put on, and he just left him yet

week- I'm hoping to see his show american utopia. When it comes back to the Hudson Theatre in New York. It was the one thing I was planning to do in March of last year before everything shut down, and I think the September it's coming back and Charlie, you had been grilling outside absolutely such a great pleasure to drill outside. But should we take a glass of wine with you take it time leave the top of the corral opens smokers. Everyone oversee it's possible most of the air to grow here any even when it rains. I have this little umbrella that I take up. Look like an english eccentric grilling in the pouring rain, but Michael.

I have spoken about this before that's when you really move in to your house is when you start grilling at it and although I'm not new, have I did it for the first time in a while last night and felt more at home, then I usually do sir. Sometimes just receiving a book is no that and just the other day. See this new bookstores war by Sean Meekin, which Emily Africa, whether you're talking about her honor author, that you're your fan of of this book and adjust the worst

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measured and thoughtful individual when he declared something to be said. I broadly speaking, assumed to be true and my instinct had been tending in the direction his peace tens, but for him to say, I felt represents a real demarcation line, so no offense to aid the pieces that he aspect, but clearly there question the pick of the weakest Charlie's is raising piece on Rebecca jobs, which I would have forgiven. You, Charlie firm Making all the rules and the other they are bent wants, but Mary Caritas convey oil and unsigned until she had suffered Nobody may do you know about that. Red valet do better. I forgive you picking your own piece of this. Just there, the ordinary job. This woman has spread conspiracy, theories about rod, disasters covered numbers and in Florida that

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