Rich, Reihan, Ian, and Charlie discuss Trump’s firing of James Comey.
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put it on the merits. Or would you supported if it had been a different president taking it on different grounds? I dont think any president could have fire. James call me without provoking a firestorm
Hillary Clinton had fired James CO me the arguments which have been similar from the right that he'd got too close to her server truth that she was taking her revenge against him for what he almost did to her in the election
this hypothetical. If Barack Obama had via James came last year, we would have had similar things from the right to. I think they would have said. While this is revenge, he's angry that his party might because the election so and so forth, and I think that you can see the conspiracy theories concocting theories for not firing combing. He needs to keep them
you he want. Somebody is compromised, cetera cetera. So there was always going to be some level of anger
some level of conspiracy theorizing. If James combing was fire. That said Donald Trump, having done it has made it a great deal worse for tourism,
firstly, the reason that Trump gave simply does not stand up. His upset. That co me was too harsh on Hillary Clinton that doesnt past the smell testicles. It doesn't
correspond to things that trump and those around him said and then
the timing- and I am sceptical about the timing. I think it is worth our being vexed by the possibility that Donald Trump fired the person who is investigating his campaign, not not him but his campaign,
I am sceptical rather than hysterical, because I think there are a whole host of reasonable and explanations that don't involved that being a huge looming, Russia, conspiracy, I think one can see Donald trump us, an amateur one can see him as a troll. One can see him as being capricious of indicative
He may indeed be all of those things that said and will come onto this in a moment what happens next? I think will be key. I wouldn't have fired him at this point and I wouldn T fight him on the pretext that
our trump presented here we are came out for his firing in January, but we said it's gonna appear
that your quashing a russian investigation- and this was before that the russian thing really took on it.
it has now that's to wait awhile. So it seems to me
time Eliza wouldn't better, either to do this right away or to wait till the Russia
calm down at the pretty zooming is gonna come down which I actually dukes I'd I'd think ought to. My private will be much there there. But what are you thinking.
you're in the timing. Certainly
certainly was wrong and if the reporting ever seeing, if the report endeavours,
is reliable, then it makes some
sense and in a very logical way, but it has just a lot to do with with has truly said, trumps capriciousness looking at the caprice repeal the right. If we're looking at the the facts,
part of this was a structural problem. The chain of command wasn't filled, so I think it's it's Byron York who pointed this out
the FBI director reports to the deputy attorney general reports to the age of course, reports to the president
Jeff sessions was not in place until early February,
rod, Rosen Steam, the deputy attorney general, was just confirmed as of April twenty sixth, the process from therefore earth for the early part of those confirm positions, as is looking over
all of the people under their umbrella. So as far as the chain of com,
Ngos, there is some theirs.
reason to believe that they really couldn't have acted until at least the deputy Agee was in place. That said, Trump is now saying. Basically, he had resolved all along the fire commie. Regardless of of the reasons for the memory,
I want to talk at the moment about the memo, because it brings up the question of the the political prudence
after this termination robber,
steam wrote a memo purporting to give an account for
determination, and I think if you read the memo, it's fair
it presents a good good.
you made in the abstract for firing call me he basically takes the line that
we ve been taken here in an hour for several months, which is that again,
and again and again, James
we decided to appoint himself. You please top policeman
a prosecutor, jury, judge, executioner,
a variety of issues where he didn't have appropriate jurisdiction, starting with the infamous press conference.
saying that he wasn't going to recommend prosecution for Hillary Clinton decision that I wasn't his. He did that over and over and over again
seeing talks to agencies and deputy ages from several previous administration,
Democratic Republican, and they all agree that this was a breach of long Standing Department of Justice, justice precedent and that president was in place to handle at high pressure situations exactly like the one that comes in, and he effectively thought that are, he seems of effectively to have thought that the independence that he had
as the director of the F B, I meant that he was accountable to no one and that's not a tenable situation, and so
In that sense, there is a strong case. I think for firing. Call me, as you point out, richness, Charlie points out. The timing now is the problem, because Russia has died down and it presents this. This obvious question of history cover up. I think
I forgot to speculate about sort of immediate effective causes. The Yeats hearing probably has as much to do with it. As anything else fact. The trumpets tired of hearing about Russia episode in the news and Sally Yeats testimony earlier this week made it front page news again, even though nothing substantive came out of it now here right now, are you tired of hearing about Russia.
I'm tired of bees in unbelievably impetuous decisions being made an distracting us from moving forward and actual substantive policy agenda.
While all the stuff has been going on this whole combing mess Bob Light Heizer President Trump,
nominee for you us trade representative, has been held up. You now have two republican senator.
John Mccain Advance Ass, saying that they oppose light, Heizer, nomination and again
Is the Eu S trade represented acquiesced? Breaking news confirmed oh
asked how about an hour ago, gosh. Ok, he get Democrats or was it fifty lifespans? Well, here too Republicans against him. So not sure
what was it pants listeners in I broke it back to the final vote will get back to us.
Our important, ok, well everything's, all right, it's ok, you're fired and Light Heizer was conferred. That's about that. But what do you think
much focus on Russia to think trumps right to be annoyed, ordered? What's your take, I think that what we need
an independent commission that has,
meaningful resources and then, as credible people who are a part of it who can pursue this, and I think that if you know that
I don't think so. This is going to go away without doing
Being serious like that, I think he's dreaming
I think that yeah yeah I'm in do. I think that I think that the american people there are many
Eric unviable. They should say who want this to be addressed.
Did it and I dont disagree with them and I think that it ought to be, and I actually think that by not doing something clean and clear
We're gonna have a commission or something along those lines. It's just that.
Stay there. Others
I think this one didn't. The irony is again I'd I'd doubt there some hugely cost
until smoking gun lurking in the whole Russia business. But
legitimate for the other side to be highly suspicious tromp, because he acts highly suspiciously and my theory about
It is not that he has a cognisance of guilt and really wants to shut the the whole thing down, because he he realizes he was a tool,
and you know anyone keep sniffing around on this.
We found out it's just.
he's annoyed
considers that an attack on him and his legitimacy and standing in his honour that people keep talking about this. So it's not
More like a character scandal, then some
actual unimpeachable scandal at its edge of a function of the of the prickly innocent defensiveness built into his character and personality. I think that's right. That's why I'm a sceptic! That's! Why I'm com
but want more information, and I was trying to work out why people I respect hysterical and indeed why they ve become irritated, if not angry, with me,
the saying let's calm down and look into this, and I think I worked it out. I think it's because if you believe that very
without a shadow of a doubt, a looming russian scandal. If you believe that President Trump got to where he is because he cheated because he liaised with a foreign power.
If you believe that we are just an investigation away from finding unimpeachable offence,
you will work backwards from that point and see what he did ass being. Obviously, an obstruction of justice. If you don't believe that or have you Aunt Shaw, schizophrenic
the diamond, then you will be very interested in deed and what happens next Vienna
do that I would drawers with a trial. I mean if you, if you are convinced that somebody who is on trial is guilty and
and they plead the fifth. You are going to see that acts as being assigned
their guilt. If you want shore- or you just want to watch the trial proceed, then you would be willing to accept that there are other reasons that people plead the fifth. Now I think what happens next is key. I will become a great deal more suspicious if President Trump try
to nominate lucky. If, for example, he were to choose Rudy, Giuliani or Chris Christie, or somebody very close to, I think I would
into worry. If he doesn't do that, while again as a sceptic, I will be willing to wait and see what happens with the investigation. Now I rarely praise Bernie Sanders. I think this may be the first time I praise Bernie Sanders on this protocol, but he was half right yesterday when he said that any replacement for James Coma should get sixty Senate votes. He is wrong in the sense that the nuclear option was already taken. Democrats are just going to have to deal with the fact that Harry Red has taken away
their capacity to stop any body. The Republicans want to put in collectively to office, but he's right in the sense that a sixty vote nominee or seventy five
vote normally or a hundred vote nominee would be much better for America than a fifty plus one or fifty to a vote nominee,
If President Trump can find somebody who will be praised by Ben SAS and John Mccain and programmes
that is an Diane Feinstein. Well, that's good
be good, for America is going to make it much easier to move on its own
even though I don't think he recognises that this, it would be better for Donald Trump, unless of course he is guilty assent, in which case that's going to come out anyway. It be much better for Donald Trump, because Donald
we'll be able to say, listen, I've been exonerated by a person who is widely respected and who was put into place by Democrats and Republicans alike,
being exonerated by Rudy Giuliani after at fifty plus my pants Senate confirmation fight, that's just not going to do it, so I think what happens next is the key. At the moment. You can interpret what had happened and ask me in a number of different ways. If we start to see some some cronyism, if we start to see games
played. I will get a lot more, would vote for Bernie Sanders if he promised every man, woman and child in this country, a government funded assault rifle.
I would not, but I must say in some ways I am a fan of Bernie Sanders, as I do think during the last election cycle he began to pander, but as a politician, he he is less likely to sell out his soul
than most dear he's, I think, in the tradition of left wing. Politicians at national use had a soft spot for because their principal than they care about ideas, even if they're wrong, just about almost anything. Jean Mccarthy Paul well Stone kind of in this in this category. But let's wrap up this portion of
a discussion so in rate the fire ability of James call me from Z.
RO, meaning he's just it straight: shooting G man who should have been there for ten years or a hundred to five.
He should have been cut kick to the curb long ago for ran two point: five,
For my own equestrian would be the timing pretext. Aigrettes afford
right here, your lower, I have emphasised the decimal places in the Democrats. In Trump, critics immediately were hysterical David from label did it
who, and it didn't seem to be really metaphorical coup. It seems to me to be an accusation of a real literal coup.
And you had Democrats said senator from a tiny I, London and Civic, called it a constitutional crisis, so
Did you make the Parson reaction for are three readers shore review from that great island? We do
shit you it's a great archipelagos entity, evaluation agreed chain about what this was. This was
and again it goes to Charlie's point
that you were you start from your conclusion and your reason backward. They ve already assumed up everybody sort of on the same page, with Michael more at this point this him that he is he's. Basically, you calling
latin repute each evening to give him the latest stand there working back from that premise
I have a fairly simple rule for interpreting Trump, which is that one ought to
one ought never to blame on cunning what
can be blamed on egotism and incompetence and there's all its.
To me that just about everything in this episode,
that we know of so far can be blamed on egotism and incompetence from the reports that we're getting that basically trumpet dislike
Tibet Commie was not sort of willing to pledge and effective loyalty oath to him to the absolutely bumbling response of the way,
communications team which, in their defence, was given one hour to prepare the.
Colonel communications that seem to have happened surrounding this
vision were extremely chaotic.
Steve Bannon appears to have been the voice of reason in the room in these types of of things that we can have come to expect from Donald Trump that, even if sort of.
on paper or in the abstract. This is a completely defensible position or a completely
justifiable move. He
Did it in the most self discrediting way possible, but this this idea that Donald Trump is is spearheading. Some sort of grand cover up seems to me until
for this reason, the same people who want to say Donald Trump, somehow conspired to collude
with the russian government to weasel his way.
Into the oval office is the same
person who all of the press accounts agree, didn't think
is firing would be a big deal. That's
This is a little it's a little girl
but it's a little like saying the robber who figured out how to knock over Fort Knox.
didn't expect that police would then come after him, I mean that's the type of a sort of double think that you have to.
Be operating under to think that that you're trumpets Pie,
Some grand conspiracy, if the if, if something like,
this did happen, is probably going to be one of his lower down.
and painful send you know who knows who actually is? If anything like this again happens and again, it's all smoking, no fire right now. You think the the chain of events
significant, less malicious
and people want to turn to a tribute right now, but we're all this really all this really is
part of this is a long trendline worrisome trend in our politics
is a broad crisis of legitimacy, there's a significant portion of the country that believes that Donald Trump is an illegitimate president.
Think they would have believed that, regardless of the Russia question
distance is someone named because they're, not the loyal opposition, they reject the principle, the Donald Trump as the legitimate president, and that he's he's the head of a legitimate system same thinkers wish is that as a sign of free and write their correct right there
point but resistance death. What I'm involved via the Meda the historian has treated about this in- and others have pointed this out-
as well as it's not just ass you and in a different way. This was behind
purser movement on the right it was. It was an attack.
Barack Obama's legitimacy and the fact that this is
This has become mainstream in birth. Tourism was not mainstream. This is mainstream when it comes to travel, is a very, very distressing tension and our politics that that needs to be raised.
I see a number of different strands and the resistance there are an unjust, more broadly, that kind of fervent opposition to the trunk. Donald Trump that you'd
Then I'm honestly not unsympathetic to, I think, there's one part of it. Where are you have
people who do genuinely worry that President Tromp was either.
Directly or indirectly, in Cahoots with Russia. Then
others who believe that he is so in
choice as to pose a threat to the republic and some
I suspect, reach for these things and these contradictions and these tensions in the stories that details as ways. Ok, we need
And this presidency, to the extent possible, we need to do things that can undermine him, undermine his
ready to consolidate power, and so it's me
than any weapon at hand. This type of argument, because their fears,
are not quite that he really was someone who is a kind of manchurian candidate, but rather that look there
else going on here. But this is one way
we can actually undermine its presidency, and it is,
it was actually this very funny kind of thing, because the
Dear that you know he is aware
a card, the idea that,
more traditional Republican would in law.
There has been a much safer pair of hands that doesn't strike me.
crazy. What does work
Yes, when you put too much
when you put too much purchase and some of these various other charges, you know
instrumental purposes,
sure where that leaves you I'd say that their
is it
range of opinion. Regarding how dangerous the president is- and I guess you know I take
I guess I'd take a more pragmatic view. I hope for the best. I hope that a good solid,
responsible people around him can steer him in the right direction that he might be able to deliver
in a good policy but honestly that the report,
really does make it seem as though the guy just reacts impetuously and in that
if executive of the world's most powerful state and also you know, by the way, the country that happens to be my own
of my certainly and all the people that I dare about. You know that that worries me so so I guess
When I look at that opposition, I just wonder about what do the people in it actually believe this is the value of this pod cast I throw out abroad.
provocative idea and then re Han gets down into the
the subtleties satellite
What should we care about Parson hypocrisy, because trumps defenders,
this had been able to rifle through.
video clips, all sorts of tweets wherein people on the left
Hang fire call me he's lost my confidence. He needs to go and have a view that, as a got ya against all trumps critics now by care, gradual about part, is on your pc and I try wherever possible to avoid it. I dont think that the conservative argument here is a good one. Yes, many Democrats, many progressives said
James Commie needs to go. Yes. Many Democrats, many Progressive said the James Commie was in League with Putin to install Donald Trump as the false leader of the United Et Cetera, Et Cetera. You can find all of those quiet, but many progressives many Democrats.
I'm not saying now. We love James combing out James Combings, an ideal FBI directive, good God, man. How could you have fired this? Paragraph?
can virtue
Most of them are saying the timing of this is a problem. You should
not far the person whose investigating you, even if we don't like,
That's an entirely defensible position. Yes, there are silly people out there. Yes, there are people who, blinded by partisanship
but it is an entirely reasonable tack to take to all
simultaneously, that it would have been better if James come had never been FBI director and that Far
bring him in the way that Donald Trump did was wrong and that
primarily what I hear from progressive critics here. So I'm a big critic of parties and hypocrisy
that so many of the critiques at a level that Donald Trump are ridiculous. There either critique of the american system per se or they are overly hysterical in nature and they draw overboard conclusions this one. I don't
Think, logically, it problematic forgive me, but I have a question for rich. I wanna know a little bit. What do you recall about Commies reputation during the Bush years
because my senses that he had a stronger
edition is someone who is of independent, mind. Someone who is someone who had was a Republican myself, my understanding, but someone who is willing to stand up to a republican administration. You know it's him!
earlier in his career. He had a strong reputation for independence,
among conservative legal eagles, and these are the folks around Trump
You were saying get rid of him from the beginning. He had a reputation. Rep reputation is show border even then cause
they use lionize by the left in the New York Times. For this episode around the hospital bed of John Ashcroft when
the question of whether the surveillance programme was gonna, be re and a elastic conservatives thought he'd.
Really valorize himself and then he is
also offered the appointment of Patrick Fitzgerald, who ran down a scooter lobbying. One of us thought was an on unfair
and unwarranted prosecution, so
I think it's a legitimate criticism of coma not also has a bad guy, but he is not
Washington Player and his reputation matters to him more than than anything else right that does seem to be a drive
worse for him in during the election as well. So, let's let wrap up this partly discussion, so in describe what you think, the ultimate political affairs
world of this will be, do you think it or more shake
Pump administration to its
foundations or more just be a placeholder
till we all move onto the next damned thing.
No, I think it's a matter. I think that you are doing in this matter for wound it'll be a touchstone. If nothing else, I think there's a lot more to to surf fall out of
still, where we're still sort of within the initial explosion. Radius, as we record, but even if that were not to happen, it'll be a a touchstone of sort of precedent, breaking that critics will continue to come back with and create this near to help create a near
ray and shakes takes foundations of play solar. I think it's gonna whet the appetite for
I gave you know so. Folks, like us, we pay very close attention to the ins, announced the details of these stories
But I'd say to a wider audience of people, including people who might be swing. Voters come the twenty eighteen mid term.
elections it's more a matter of. Does there seem to be something going on here. Is there a lot
noise around this. Does it sound plausible that something shady could have been going on. I think that matters a lot which
Why well we'll get to it next, but which is why? I really think you need to do something to kind of clean up
story and show that you have things under control. Truly all depends on what he does knife sideways her neck
wherever the discussion I have to say on this question, I am a prudent injudicious, Righthand Salaam to point out that I think is more in the place older, but is less than a crisis
the regime. It doesn't matter, does matter alot what comes next,
in Charlie earlier was was saying. Rudy would be a mistake and it has to be some one,
out of all unsure you, you grew with that, but in any elaborations assured. I definitely definitely agree with that. I think that the best thing here would be to try and find some sort of candidate for replacement who would be reconciling. I also think that Trump needs to shut his mouth our eye when it comes to other steps that can be taken to clear the air about this
I realize the the massive political incentives to try and shut this down. Trump has never been in that position before in his life, where he didn't have it within his power to shut down a groundless speculations have been able to hire fire at will you know working in in a business environment, but the best thing he can do if
really is nothing here is, I think, stay out of this and allow, as as Ryan says, an independent blue ribbon panel, like the nine eleven pale Select committee, which we have endorsed here it and are to come in and create a definitive report. You can point to say during the course of his creation. I had nothing to do with this. Here's what they came up with you can point to that complaint to you know enough die directors. Charlie said who gets through on a bipartisan vote and comes to similar conclusion that will help. It will add if there are a lot of hardened people on the left for him, no conclusion will ever be sufficient, as was the case for no people on the right when it came to Benghazi who always wanted Barack Obama. Hillary Clinton is proof that they had failed
Poland pull the trigger. Some people will never be satisfied, but a great many people will ever trump that extremely important and establishing that legitimacy. Clearing the air in that way could be. The difference between election reelection ramp
so many contradictory threads here just drives me nuts, including the fact that in some ways the term presidency
has been more confrontational towards Russia along some dimensions. I,
really just don't understand why the president can offer this simple message
interference in elections is unacceptable.
That's not what I wanted. This is a threat
for democracy and we are going in,
to get it we're gonna get to the bottom of it.
but I think that its it goes back to this impetuous this. This, the sensitivity to slights
it seems to be a kind of trade. The inability to gonna say something that clear and straightforward
so glad to see senator my glee, the guy that I think of his kind of our generation's robber tat. The kind of Mr Republican in the Senate come at an suggests
that, as FBI director, the President Otter nominated,
Garland Deasey Circuit, the
this is a guy who is renowned prosecutor? He was involved-
getting the Oklahoma City bombings aspect eventually convicted
and you know this as someone who is in a man of has it terrific sterling
mutation as a man of great integrity. I think that that is, alas,
unlikely choice, but I think it was an excellent suggestion and like in a blue,
Independent commission would be
very wise idea, but I also think that it is fascinating. So some of what we ve read said
as some of you, know the reporting we ve seen on on what Russia try to accomplish this election.
We suggest that the Russians did not believe that Hillary Clinton was going to lose. They wanted to
can an undermine her as president. They would
to weaken and undermine any president of United States, including Donald Trump. I succeeded opened and they succeeded, so the
dear that Donald Trump should be sheepish about the idea of investigating this thoroughly just makes absolutely no sense. This is a threat to the country.
It's not about being a threat to any individual politician and the sooner the President
The folks around him understand this, the end of it, the better it's going to be for the country number one another to the better. It's going to be politically. If that's, what you happen to care about seem try this
anything that a normal part,
says: well
believe it or not and to some extent that's that's a good thing. Are our system kind of forces people into do
things, do doing good and worthwhile things are
we say them, even if insincerely, which is better than the the opposite, which is from actually saying what he thinks about this,
pathway fridges. I don't wanna be bothered me who cares and helped me. I think it can be frustrating for money.
Thus watching and wondering why he doesn't do not just what we would do, but what almost anybody would do in this situation? He should be putting forward somebody
Denmark, Ireland or maybe Joe Liebermann or the push. If you want a Republican carry out, he should be in
forcing a congressional investigation. He doesn't have to go the special prosecutor River, I think Morrison Scalia descended Marston made made the case
that very well, I think Congress in nineteen nineteen. I made the case against that very well and you can do that if your trump you can say, I don't want to special prosecutor for these regions. Will he will know
if he were the sort of person who were going to do that, and he wouldn't be in this position in the first
a small politician might have realised that the decision was made.
To some gone television to explain it. He might have lined up lawyers and other political figures to give him cover. He might have contrived to better pretext, at the very least again, if Donald Trump, with a sort of person who
I went down that road. He wouldn't be at where he is. I was reminded in
Thinking of this about a friend I had at university who he went about it
quarter of a million dollars playing online poker and was extremely impressed by this.
And about a year later he said it was down to a hundred and fifty thousand dollars
and I said to him: you know I would never have lost that hundred thousand dollars. If I've got took
a million dollars in poker winnings I'd. Never if kept playing any separate, you'd never have made in the first place, of course, and this is the problem that we have with tromp as we keep expecting
to do what a normal politician with, because it so obvious, but here
wouldn't be where he is, and he wouldn't be in the predicament that he's in if if he will have sort of person
I just wonder whether he's gonna keep blustering through this and
make a situation that he probably didn't anticipate an awful lot worse, sir,
a question on this one in our you optimistic or pessimistic that Trump will make a poor sick. Like pick for his next F B, I direct pessimistically Riah, Pessimistic, Charlie, I'm pessimistic
I am optimistic that having other forces are gonna be really at at play. An
not getting a bad pick through and I think people around
the more convinced them that are a Rudy or
even some more radioactive figure.
We can think of just are gonna, be it a huge
this man and not achieve his aunts, but I could well be wrong, Sir
and it's that time and that the programme for summer some quick takes on
various things as though there caught her eyes and of course see you
you have been consumed, as always with movies and television shows, so
The season finale of season three of the television programme fresh off the boat just aired and at sea
me that season three marked a real transition in the world, a fresh off the boat, the tale of any Wang and its Asian, and
in family living in order
the Florida in the mid too late. Ninety nine days, that's the big development is that any Wang, the hip hop
loving mischievous son, the one who really defies a lot of stereotypes about Americans evasion. Dissent is
away from the centre of the show more?
fringes as the youngest lovable Son Evan, who is by the way very nerdy, is the new fan favourite and it occurred to me
You know, gosh, the show was all about appending stereotypes, but we here we have a diminutive nerdy chinese boy, very sweet loves. His mom has become the fan favoured, and my hope is that this represents a turn
in Amerika at large towards loving Mama's boys, because it s a mindless myself. I really think Mama's boys deserve more praise rather than scorn, Charlie
we're taking with an onion video. Yes, this reserve,
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Judith Butler and he suddenly realised how the structural inequalities of the country are tracking him into voting against his own interests. It is a brilliant piece of satire about
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is making me envious of his life ass. I watched homes, the tank engine, every move out my level. I have strong views on that, but not none. So by Jeremy Court,
he's going to try to nationalized Thomas was there are new guide of so Dorothy did not have a free market
It's time for our editors take righthand. What's your pic, I
greatly enjoyed. Michael Brendan, Dougherty is peace on efforts on the
but a political scientists and other folks on the left.
Broadly too
sense of the quota quote deplorable startle trump supporters. This is a really for small, very amusing peace. It's also,
However, that really engages with some deep questions about social science. You will profit from reading it. Truly I liked Kyle Smith's. What's the word, facetious essay on Emma Watson's receiving the first ever gender less.
Acting Ward Carl set her up ass Emma rose a Pox Watson. Then you Rosa parks of if today's Hollywood, who simply refuses to on agenda demarcations, it is Carl Smith at his best. He does
two things, especially while I think one is right about movies and Hollywood and the other is slaughter sacred cows, and in this I say he does both. He and I hope you have a post modern, pick twig, not quite
Last week I had so much good content on the call me firing at National Review online, the editor,
I have written about it, David French, Jonah, Charlie, but there's one post on the corner that may have slipped by your notice by Dan Maclaughlan. It's an excellent summary of events. Up to this point, Dan has kept a very close eye on this, as it has unfolded.
over the past several months. He lays all of that out issues very sober and very clear, headed. You could do a lot to do a lot of good to follow Dan's advice going forward ethic.
My pig is some traditional retails. A lot of trouble in this country and Kevin Williamson went to a boarded up more and
groundwater right about this? For our next issue, I come out
this week and is too
a brilliant and what what else struck by just Kevin has his observations in his peace
They're just so acute illuminated, the just completely throw ways for him and there's one in the piece about the movie.
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That's my check it out. That's it for us.
today? Thank you, Charlie. Thank your right hand. Thank you. Ye and thanks. Everyone for listening
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