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anything so Jim Garrulity truly stored, nary, a situation where the interests of the United States of its citizens and the fate of the binding presidency totally dependent on it. a ban as we speak recording Friday morning. We have this ongoing situation at the airport. We have thousands of Americans. Presumably, no one really knows number beyond the wire behind enemy lines, a bunch of afghan allies behind the enemy lines, and we are depending on the Taliban, to let people through the gates to the airport. This has happened as the time is not happening all the time as a tell them cause no kidding hostage crisis if it wanted to creator ram runway with some indirect fire. They potentially could destroy buttons presidency

so Biden, really that they deserve the that they just have em and so far seems a calculation the Taliban as well. We ve on that. We want the Americans out, so we're not gonna mess with this, but that that could change yet anytime warning ahead of time from listeners. This is probably about his depressed yearning hear me on any observer of the editors, because this is just a really depressing situation. I think one of the things that is truly dispiriting is, if you think about But the best case scenario from here on out is the Taliban struck by a very uncharacteristic bout of honour. Decides to allow all the Americans to leave, probably because they calculated this is in their long term interest to get us. out and to get us completely out of the country and then once we left the country we will them alone, Girul, Afghanistan, as they see fit.

All of this, if we a thorough report on CNN today that the U S, forces on the ground have been in daily regular in personal contact with Taliban representatives, and I don't What this is involving pay me I don't know if this is involving threat. Some thing, can you getting each day about getting our people out whether the Taliban is so far no reports of the Taliban attack. As of this recording the Taliban, hacking american citizens. however, there are attacks reports of attacking Australians other addressing CNN crew. It's in there I just don't know how much the how good the Taliban is, that every last in a foot soldier walking around with it, Kay. Forty seven is: can you go we are following those orders, It is short of that they're doing everything possible other shooting into crowds there. There there beating people with whips and change the executing people on the streets of big, the big

she's gonna, be all of those Afghans who helped the United States in the coalition forces are less couple years. The apparently tens of thousands that we have there who have not got now taking, are trying to do There are special immigrant visas. This case scenarios we get the Americans out and ineffective. We know better work led literally hand over the keys to them and that's it. The Taliban rules placed the where they want and they are excellent. Chancellor, and into a terrorist trend. cap again, they already have just unbelievable amount of: U S, arms weapons, helicopter on these Every conceivable me bill our earlier biometric reading material, which is to help them, will help them track down. Afghans that helped us they're going house to house. It is just about as bad as possible you could get and yet in Europe could still very very much get worse.

I was born in eighteen, seventy five, so Vietnam was kind about something I learned about. It is not me, I'm living memory. I've read about will see the photos, videos, yeah. Maybe you know people who were vietnamese boat people. People had to sleep because of that, and we know just how bad that was but we ve had bad moment since that we ve had been gauzy with a crowbar towers without the embassy bombings by Al Qaeda, we ve had some dark moments R. U S, history! Since then, this woman probably rank amongst the very worst because In addition, the Taliban returning to power, in addition to this giant step backward for human rights and women's rights and refugees that accompany come out of this. In addition to the fact that parliament is denounced today, parliament is denouncing us bidding mad at the way? Our president did not help. You accuse the Afghans. going to be fighting for themselves. We also turn Afghanistan

and into the biggest arms bizarre in Asia, and it is, actually likely that the not too distant future, the Russians, the chinese- will have hands on, and you know it makes sixty black hawk helicopters and the other get a real good look at how they operate. How they, what what, what the assess them for technical weaknesses and things like that, it's hard overstate the scale of this disaster but I hope a binds go back a globally to today's urban smile, we're just level desperation. We have talked about this earlier in the week with this horrible images, people clinging society, yours transport, play and actually some of them clinging until it was in the air and falling off and kind of it. parallel mirror image of that terrible falling man image from September, listen in downtown Manhattan, but you also have this image and is one of the things I I I hesitated click on, but I did of of the baby being

did over that the barbed wire just surpassed among the Afghans, along among the Afghans outside the wire and lifted over it just shoot that unimaginable the level, disparate desperation that you would entrust you're your baby, one that you just let your baby be lifted over barbed wire by strong Your but then also just not knowing You see the baby again, you know he ever going to see. This looks like a three month format. Old child and maybe there's been some follow up, and hopefully there the parents are reunited, but that this is just unbelievable. and someone wrote a good com at the Washington Post about SEC comparing listed. I gone and other mass evacuation Saigon. We're gone for a full month. Unmolested before the north, Vietnamese showed up. Now every day, jetting people out there.

This is totally different and worse, Charlie cause what we're doing it after that city, as far as the president is all over the place. I think this is the key point here he's all over the place, his flailing. There is no strategy. There is just panic and there's panic from him as well, though he's trying to hide it and they are not treating this as if it as if it relates to the description you just gave their treating this as if there was

Data like leak at the CIA and they just need to lie low for a few days and the new cycle will move on. But that's not the case and as such we ever an enormous hostage to fortune. And we are very critical of the press on the spot gas, but they're not going to be able to avoid. Knowing those images because they just so staring- and everyone is seen them now- I'm talking too casual acquaintance. Is you don't follow? Politics place, did. You see the video the family, throwing their baby over the barbed wire fence. Did you see that members be Afghan national football team fell off of a plain when you just do com,

hi bits and and in a sense what Biden has done here is he has our source the fate of his presidency, to a group of seven centuries savages? Am, I don't think he is perhaps realized it, meaning that in that interview with with staff and police, you saw somebody who did expect business who didn't plan for this and who still doesn't know what to say about, now sure he is pretending. I took the up decision. I knew this is going to happen. but we all know that that is not true and- and I should say, I've changed my mind in a sense, because I think we now have to separate out this crisis into two steps. One is that it happened, and two is what the government has done since the last time. We

not a lot about how it happened, and then the speech- and we talked about Frumps role. We talked about whether or not bite and could have changed the timetable. We talked about his July eight, the dress in which he said everything was going to be fine. You wouldn't say these scenes. We talked about the immediate reaction from here, and from other than I did. I said this in the pot costs, but I wrote in the corner. I see no reason why General Austin, nor merely sexually state should resign, because this was Trump assizes, but I didn't call and I made that clear and it would, in my view, have been somewhat unfair. What time the round today happened inside. You know what the generals and the intelligence officials who gave him a different view. You need to resign because he ignored you.

but I've changed my mind on this. Now that it's not just by the response from everyone has spent a chaotic disgrace. I mean this. This is the one thing the! U S, government is supposed to do this, why it exists. We spent seven hundred four billion dollars a year on the military And we're watching press conferences in which generals Will we don't know how many Americans there we don't know if we can get them out, we not equipped to get lots of people out. Yes, Shobo help unless we hit the deadline. You know that

talking like a twenty one year old kid who's on the lake shifted King person doesn't really want to be their own unharnessing words. So I've changed my mind. I think we need mass resignations and I think we need a review of how on earth has happened because of its bite and as the president unease in charge, and maybe we'll talk a little bit more about how is clearly not, but it's not just by them. It's not that he sat in that room and said yeah, but Let's do tests and their staff said why not a good idea, societies that are occurring in a do it anyway. It just seems that they just out of control from from top to bottom. Yes, so Jimmy Combat can talk more detail, that by seven percent review and his performance and in general and ensure jolt has gotten away. Attention. He asked the question: what's up with with binding, though its dwell, Miss resignation, question does we ran editorial?

yesterday saying that million Austin should resign and that this kind of you know put upon as a sort of stuff we do. We call people resign so ass to his due diligence and talking to professionals and and people who Dont need heartache ever every single day and American called people to resign in writing, out of the hat and they're. All this is shocking, just completely shocking. Every other, just just the fact that you would, send troops out in isolation like seven hundred laugh or whatever, and then have to do so five thousand back alone is a shocking, an indictment and that Millie would say we didn't know. What are you talking now you know you could have read the Long Ward journal and no one could read some of your stuff Jim in known, you could read any Mccarthy and no there's no way they didn't know. This was the least apply. possible scenario and their planning

involve worst cases, presumably, and that's it didn't have a better idea. What what to do than than this is just unbelievable and actually this morning, Joe earlier and they had their Pentagon Airport Iranian do seem very sensible and well informed, and she has in the point you know in July, Kandahar was threatened and people were telling her atop brass This could really got the wrong way and we're just we're trying to get it. The sender commandos in the cities, major population centres to buttress the re, your troops, so it wasn't surprise and then excuse me six years about why the left bog rum and I take the point bottom- wasn't keeping Barton. Wasn't s joy, magic bullet because we really hard to get people out from Kabul to background is further away than the earth, and Kabul, but it is better to have two points to be egress rather than one in his explanation. At the press conference the other day was well look

we're going down a seven hundred side, the choice to protect the embassy or to keep this hugely important air base, and I chose the empty, but that's the point where it You said you know what, Mr President, if you want to do it and do it this way get a new chairman of the joint chiefs. and it didn't. I was just so rare for anyone to think in these terms, anymore matters to his credit. Resign Never Syria, otherwise, is just hard to come up with examples really If you don't have you You know someone who is still in an American stolen Afghanistan. If you know an afghan interpreter or someone who has been helping the? U S, the polish efforts in D in Afghanistan some time over the last twenty. yours if you had a friend or a loved one year. If you love anybody was there whose, among those thousands of people who are trying to figure out how the heck we get them out of their behind these Taliban checkpoints

between them and the Kabul Airport has anything you heard from this administration over the past week. Given you any reassurance whatsoever, stopping the president not familiar has anything, it's Austin said make you feel better or made you feel like. Ok, these guys get it. These guys know what they're doing their prepare has anything sectors. The Lincoln said. Let me national Security adviser Sullivan, said right before mister, taping. As of this morning, Brianna care CNN was talking to the cape betting, feel the White House Communications director and after an hour, a typically mealy mouthed comment, forbidding field, credit, Brianna Killer for saying not hearing. You say that you are right, sounds like you're, saying you're prepared to leave people behind when a news anchor asked. Are you willing to leave people behind? The right The answer is no and that way The answers you come really fast out of your mouth betting feel responded. We doing everything we can to get it

many people who want to get out there before the August? Thirty first deadline? That's it the enemy, It is therefore not about August thirty. First, the US government is not going to Is it going to do anything to help you you're on your own? You won't you those you know your calls important to US emails from the Us State Department. Please be aware: the United States government cannot assure your safety as you get yourself to the airport is hard to imagine a time where the? U S, government, And a military there will be no bird for generations it is the arsenal. Democracy has looked so impotent, has looked. so utterly incapable of doing job one wishes protecting american citizens. And the other really odd things were seeing least videos on twitter areas, accounts of british- special forces in the French, getting their forces out there to get their people out. So somehow our allies are managing to do things that are military tuna, and it is just one

he bewildering. To see us struck so powerless, And because we know our guys other brown or the welltrained, they still have guns they vote. We have a whole much their guns it up in the hands of the Taliban. But we know these guys on the ground were sending more guys if the president- said you know what I'm sick of this. Let's go, kicked the butter, the Taliban any there cannot be open. We still have drones bestow fighter jets. We still know with their votes. Are we can go out and start you know hammering them. We wanted took the probability of a lot of market dead. I'm not saying that necessarily the wisest course of action. The present has that option and there's no indication were even contemplating back, let's just mind, boggling, it's very hard to figure it out and hate the fact that chinese state run media is chuckling the where a paper tiger but Emily direction? For that I can be really upset to hear our NATO allies thing can no longer trust in the United States I can understand why they're saying it

Oh yeah, dvd everybody residing at this point would be an acknowledgment. at least be an open state. Yes, this did not go. This is weak. failed in our duties, but we don't do that anymore. We didn't see it during bagasse, we didn't see, it is somewhat aren't. You should have seen a dream. after nine eleven, we don't see. People reformers words any more out of a sense that they have failed in their duties. It is now to the bunker. Hide spin may counter accusations. Its everybody's fault accept your own and people then say rich tat wire me Could Stolliver having faith in their institution is anymore. It's chemistry yeah, so you mentioned CNN and trawler aid. National meat earlier- and I want to underline the point truly made it- the media's accident really good on this. It's me is incredibly buyers, disgracefully So until they unreliable but

That does mean that it every Democrat present President gets a pass on every single thing, and this is just such an obvious. Failure was impossible. to ignore and CNN. I think we should just hail the work of cluster. or ass, a ward earlier in the week that totally dishonest attacks on her from the right on Twitter, based on this clip that was misleadingly added edited. She said all these guys around mayor are channing death to America, but they still seem friendly, and this was used it to make. It seem so she's make excuses for terrorist or is totally out of touch, but then they they added out next phrase which like bizarre early and then, if you watch the entire report, is clear what you and she knows what the score is and then the next day she was in this incredibly threatening situation. Given look: what's happened to other female journalists in that part of the world? Do it doing a stand up with you

these guys surrounding her and steady that steadily the crowd bill hey guys glowering at her, though she's been incredibly brave betrayers, you know they'll be books About this in and will no more but there's something weird they brought their asses question John Kirby yesterday is innocent. a deal with the Taliban, where we said we won't go out and rescue are our guys and ass. Are the deal that that as commissioner, alarmed at the airport and adjust very strange that that bind. We may have talked about this a little bit earlier in the week. I forget that combines speech, not one word critical, Monday morning, Monday afternoon of the Taliban, not one in the drawer seven interview which again I keep on, say what we'll get to have more and more detail in a moment: one critical were the Taliban. I just makes me wonder if there's something

deal or just failing that. They know they now are totally dependent. On the Talibans goodwill moment, I've been hesitant to use this line because smacks of domestic political bickering, but it is true, that in the last week, Joe Biden has had much harsher words for Greg Abbott Rhonda senses than he has for the Taliban. I don't understand why. Even if you look at this from violence perspective

they wouldn't undermine his argument to acknowledge that the Taliban is bad? News is sure he's probably not gonna want to want to list atrocity is because it would make the consequences of his failure has seen worse. But he said during the interview with George definitely that there, in the middle of an existential. Discussion of who they want to be, and we talked about this last time there is something so odd about the way Democrats talk about. The worst people in the world. They they can't help, but use this

International relations E divorce. He Kennedy School of business style, language were really really doesn't belong, and you could talk about Angela Merkel, like that. You could talk about Hungary, like that you can talk about the differences between the various political parties in Austria like that, but you really can talk about the Taliban like that, and yet he persists in doing so.

But yeah I say you're you're not going to he's not going to get away with it, because the images are to start. What is happening is is too bad and I just wonder whether he knows that and I I don't spend huge amount of time talking to people. Washington DC. I do, as you have some political contacts and their read on. It is, as I say, that he's trying to write it out these trying to treat this like a bad jobs. Reports were em, you know a data leak and that's just not Going to happen and the press does not seem interested in letting it happen either you mention CNN. CNN has been fascinating and all of this I keep logging onto their website, because our readers will know

I really don't like say, and I think that their website in particular is absolutely preposterous. waiting for them to go back to. The happy place, which is what MAC Gate said yesterday on how this is ready, trumps faults or in our hour on the Santa's, messing everything Florida and they haven't any and in fact, almost in a matter peace. They said this. This is a disaster and Biden can no longer count on reflexively. Friendly or anti Trump press coverage in it. The peace just read to me almost like a confession: ok, we know, but we're not gonna. Do it this time and that's going to change our politics in

short term so Jim Exit question to you. The evacuation crisis in Afghanistan will get better or get worse. Rare gods, wretched say I've. No, I have absolutely no idea what the next hour in Afghanistan holds much less with the next. twenty four hours a week, I do know that, does he had noticed now reporting there is not the Eu S flight depart the airport anybody hours, which is not a good sign truth. I profoundly hope that they will get better, but given what we know it doesn't look. I said that's going to happen, I must say, is gonna get better because I do think we're gonna get american doubt a list more more Americans out wasteful of Kabul here that the question here is: what do you do about

American scattered around the rest of the country and I'll, put a big ass, honest answer, because This there is no guarantee that this could go, disastrously wrong and the make it look several magnitudes. More dire than it does at the moment, we just have to hope and pray for Russia, mercy of these barbarians that that doesn't happen with that lets pause and here for our first sponsor this episode, masterwork spin, the market is hard but doesn't need to be because there's a simple by and hold ass a class. That's beat the Essen people. Five hundred from ninety ninety five to two thousand twenty consistently perform gold and real estate as investment and is expected to grow by fifty nine percent over the next several years to a staggering five hundred and fifty two billion. dollar global market. The asset class we're talking about is art work

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the other day. I think you you had every important point they left out, and one Jim said that this is a sort of focus on that our focus, our ethical they you out is. He said he would have done this even at this right now, but would have now, regardless of whether a bar trumpet cut this peace deal on so called with its Taliban or not that's been a huge element of his Use a king and rationalization for what's happened here and now he just openly many now, actually, I would have done an email. one of the reasons I suspect something it not right with President Biden- is the dog which he makes these kind of the contradictory arguments. Some from sentence to sentence, and I dont know if he

remember what he said. A few moments earlier doesn't care what he said a few moments earlier. I suppose it's entirely possible that the president, having bet on us, being able to withdraw all troops, and the afghan government holding together for a while and either the country. Having some a civil war and then that then took over something like that. He pushed his japs onto that. A bet that things were not gonna love to the point where he felt her, Bowling July saying you're not going to see it Taliban taking over this got this this country and he bent wrong and things went exactly right on that. Yes, oh yeah, less couple days, you see a lot of beating on hey trumpeted. Leave me with any other choice. reflexive everything that goes back as if the binding ministries is his you now hesitant to change from policies.

As if the Bible administration, you know why out by abrupt with billing border wall, we couldn't stop that this ridiculous excellent explanation. So yet that was bare, I think With a couple of days of up to digest, the stones are really bad interview and everything we gave a valley, salute to CNN, I think this is a return to what CNN does best thinking back When you know it really ended up in a national scene with these started, the Persian Gulf WAR, showing you what's happening on the other side of the world in vivid live video is what CNN does best. And here, Stephan Apple. As a former Clinton administration aid who lots of conservative sickly, Never going to forget that forget that going to see him as a guy who's gonna take a swing it both parties equally but I don't think that we must have an almost did, not also policy. You know asked all the questions

you should have asked and bided handle almost all of them terribly, maybe the one that was most paddling was Stephan out was asked about the image of the crowded, see one thirty plain and the image of what will happen with a number of Socrates. Falling to his death from from cling to the landing gear, and It's weird little bar for four or five days ago, actually was two days ago, but that's not even really the point. The question is that like Bite is acting like you're you're, bringing up ancient history. You bring up something that Utterly irrelevant to the moment, at a gallop dairy Mr Prodi, stepping up was would have asked you about an earlier accept is the first year of you, you ve done you didn't take any questions in either of your two public appearances of less about is whether this is by far the biggest foreign policy crisis of buttons present

You'd urban certainly last decade, and maybe you know, since nine eleven have yet to take your pick about what you think is the most Iraq binding not appear here last night. appears last week was Thursday morning, so I did not appear in public products, salad Sunday work until Monday afternoon appearances on Monday. He did not appear Tuesday. He did this the briefing conference on Wednesday uncovered, which you didn't take any questions, the opposite every Wednesday in it nothing. Yesterday he supposed to you thing to debt later today around like one thirty and then going to Wilmington for a couple of days and has no indication you gonna do not work the public appearances. After that. This is just a bewildering scheduled for a president during our wish to point out that during this period he has done a grand total of three calls to four leaders, none of them before I believe Tuesday evening, to Boris Johnson he's called angle in Macao is called the crown. But the call to

Boris Johnson Tuesday evening. I believe it was his first called for leader nine days they scored with public records in the warehouse website. What he doing. I really dont know what he's doing all day, because he does not seem to be responding to this iser wasn't prepping for this was a really serve. It seem like he was on top of things. At that moment, it would be One thing, if you could say all we we know the president is in non stop meetings. There was a report when the daily Telegraph that Boris Johnson had covered out to divide white House and said you know I want the up. We need to talk and bind did not get back to him for thirty six hours. what is he doing all day? Where is he What is not like what is going on at one of the reasons I go. I have no idea it's something, ah physically wrong with President mentally wrong with the president.

He just feel just seems absent during what is probably the biggest prevent. I don't. This goes beyond trying to downplay at were a deliberate press spin or something that, like I said he several times that interview, I insist. Did he did not remember being pulled things that, like we have a council can being told at one point in the interview he asserted that he had worn people that the Talibans better take over, which is the exact opposite, what he said on July, maybe just a really shameless liar. But I must start to wonder if he believes what he sang, which now does raise a question about just what is mental state of the President right now, so try as clearly as this touch, their appeal is lost a step or two that the scheduled gems point is harangue. Unless it's just a matter of hiding you're hiding from from bad news.

But the one reason I'm not necessarily alarmed that there's something desperately wrong with turbine is it. This is, what's always been wrong. With Joe Biden has been a complete hack. He is not not that the sharpest tool in the shed he'll use. Any argument at hand is a blow mediator and will contradict himself so I saw the sooner the seven offers, the interview being rather than sign of alarming slide on by this part, a disturbing picture into the characteristic Joe Biden, which we were supposed to get about. Last year, Biden was inflated into this great figure. This sir great champion of empathy and truthfulness and statesmanship who's gonna restored standing at the United States. They need to be made into something he wasn't as foil for trouble.

here, you got him, get having given us much worse. Foreign policy crisis experienced under Trump and having kneecaps Ursus. You're severely damaged credibility and NATO and away trumpet without any statements, never did. I'm not sure they immediately exclusive day As you say, Joe Biden has always been a hack he's, never been particularly intelligent. He is never had a core he's, never exhibited an ideology. He's also lost a lot of speed So yeah you can look at Biden than you can say, he's a guy who is of course, once again the wrong about foreign policy

during the last twenty years, contradicted himself repeatedly about a war that he voted for. There was a clip found by Think Peter Bacon at the New York Times from two thousand to abide in saying you know: Americans just gonna have to get used to this term nation building. Of course now says it was never the aim and he chose George Stefano police friend, the interviewer not bother figurative, democratic hack, but literally used to be one and is well known for being friendly toward that party. But if this had happened ten years ago, Joe Biden would have looked different when, whenever I think

why I dislike Joe Biden, my brain runs back to the vice presidential debate with Paul Ryan Rageous budget. Him Paul Ryan tried ass, hard ass. He could to get his view. Biden just kept snapping at malarkey na terrible belligerents, similar in fact to the weather President Trump and treated him last year, But Joe Biden was quick with it mean the behaviour was bad, but he was sharp and coherent. He was impressively rude, whereas now he's not

Now he slurs every time somebody criticizes Joe Biden delivery says he lets, although he can't get through a sentence, were totally has its desert. He may have. As far as I know, people who have started I would never make front of somebody has. Is that if we had a starting out is that ten years ago he had started during this debate. with foreign he had it started when he was satisfied. I had started when he was vice president. He had a startup and twenty seventeen when tromp was elected and he gave a whole bunch of speeches that were widely covered. It doesnt explain now when slurring his words, it doesn't explain when he can't remember what he said a few moments ago. It doesnt explain why instead of a controlled or contrived anger, which is always used. he now seems genuine need to lash out something has changed, and so it's possible for Joe Biden,

the guy he always was, but also be the guy. He always was it almost seventy nine years old and I think the key, the nation is not going to serve him while because it it's just now, Longer relevant that he's not from when I think of you had said to all of trumps critics, including those on the centre right a few months ago I look, Joe Biden is actually going to worry. Everyone does he's going to seem, incompetent and belligerent an old and incoherent. They would have said ok, but I would rather have that and Donald Trump ok, but that's all question now, and I think that's partly why more and more people are writing about. It said Jim Gary in terms of transport This is the beginning of the end and inflection point or a blip. Richie, no you just ass in terms of trumps presidency. I did he asked

there is a great irony is a really Freudians lip, but it also approbation of Ratsey. We use I have this kind of get not their years loud. Mouth blowhard, who didn't really known, was talking, acquire Didn, t pay, attention is briefings and just when blurted out the first thing, the pop you said, but now we ve got away. We got the same guy at the meetings of eternity. I left. My guess is that new we dont we're not gonna forget the image. the guy fallen from landing here, we're not good. At your end, we were not out of the woods and if this ends with the Americans, we gotta get out of Saigon and Several taught me several months went by before the south Sudanese governed collapsed bread, I think the other which has become clearer since the last time we check than about this earlier. In the week is how much this was binding decision and binding decision alone. That fact

military, including sexual defence Austin, including apparently Billy, and all these guys really wanted to keep point five entrepreneur and the degree to which this was driven by binding decision. I guess the other thing, which is just the just your puts the vile in your mouth, is the sense that this was driven, that he wanted it have done by the twentyth anniversary of September, eleventh like to be some sort of significantly to see if we still had some troops in Afghanistan, one September twelve is mind: boggling the decision making That is more job. What were witness this week is a phenomenal triumph of evil and that's a sort of way. we don't want to see any american President Watch Charlie begin at the end. In such a point, blip hunting is the beginning of the end, in the sense that

there was ever any chance that Joe Biden would try to remain popular and strong after the mid terms and then have a shot at running again. It's probably gone. I'm not ready to completely count em out, though, because his party and broadly half the country as an enormous vested interest in maintaining him as President Another respect, president, because there are about to come and ask the american people three and a half trillion dollars, and they can't do that if Biden is a sunken figure, so I don't know, what's gonna happen in the next two or three months. I do think this killed any chance of Baden being. after our swimming? Second term? Sir? Are things begin the ends in other as will intervene private sooner than we can a man.

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dissenters, saying that to school districts, no you're, not you're, not doing mass mandate is a friend of Israel parents to decide what to make of it. The first things I wish the media would stop reporting every fully vaccinated person. Testing positive as if it was written about a difficult one If we get really sick. Ok, then it's a big tab. All bulky outrage that that's something we should worry about, but the scene was never said, we're gonna completely make sure you never do you know any infection whatsoever, but the whole point was to keep you from get really sick. Keep you from getting up the house. But all keep you offer ventilator and keep you from dying from covert. I should emphasise that get hit by a bus. I do kind of wonder if the another person fully vaccinated republican lawmaker has been tested positive. I don't

of the media, recognizes whether that's undermining people save your I'm back stated this point: you're you're, just not convinced doesnt much good or you believe bill gates, but a microchip in here, but what our borders in This you saying how good the case in point is. The failure of the vaccines is. It is a bad thing. I'm glad the FDA came out with the recommendation, for boosters is weak and other people already gone out and got them. Ah, I see that the summit, studies out of Israel offered. This really can unnerving factor suggesting that after six months it starts decline. Pfizer said that your protection goes from the ninety seven percent high ninety seven percent early onto after six months, you're somewhere in the Middle EAST. But that's not a crisis point and most people who are you gotta help me The goods continue beyond help. You're gonna be fine You are building that slightly higher risk category. The folks who are older, the folks who are being compromised back the FDA, CDC, moved on those first

folks who might have what they call the co morbidity diabetes, had blood public pressure on issues like that, you know It's one. Those things were you'd like to have those folks at maximum protection. shouldn't so yeah, given on the third shot, is fine. Some people have her color, grumbling and saying actually, eight months is either Is it every six citizens Pfizer said every two months? It goes down. Another six percent so submit eighties goes down six percent the neighbourhood about eighty percent protection again for the vast majority of the public is not going to be a crisis, but for the most vulnerable yeah. We do want to get those folks and get that third shot make sure you got. You know it's like you know you want to wear the bulletproof vest or not can't guarantee every fruitful full protection was going to be a slightly better odds. Israel's been doing this for several weeks now now they're on providing booster shots to those fifty an older. I do feel like our bureaucracy.

the problem is our response to the pandemics moving at a speed of bureaucracy. How long it takes FDA, to look at all the studies and consult and from the working groups, not gonna stuff, while the virus is moving, at the speed of mutation and the delta, very is now things like ninety nine. Ninety, eight percent of all cases in the car you're right now. I think we'd never had a delta variant, we'd be feeling really good about where we are in terms of vaccinations in cases like bats promised delta variant, Is super duper contagious and was I voted yesterday? The corner you're, seeing high rates of cases and for hospitals in places like Hawaii and Oregon and washing? state, and these are not you know it's not just. Oh those. Those southern states Republicans, all those mother wearing folks, either dominated get back, stated their trouble. Look, these data hi vaccination Ratsey, even Burma, which has the highest vaccination ray the country, had their cases go up. Forty one percent in a week, that's in it cater of just how cases not hospitalizations, but no

ass, an indicator of just how contagious this thing, so you can have really great vaccination rates and people still are doing regarding the masking my senses mass. Do some good, not a tonne. Seen some talking some health experts that say that, in the context of how contagious delta is your typical cloth mask is probably not gonna, do you must good and once again, public service announcement of its your nostrils. It's really I gotta do any good and you know where we're seeing the same disputes in my neck of the woods is using all across the country, my kids, when they go You're gonna have to wear masks and not thrilled about it, but if that's what it takes to get the schools open five days a week, I'm going to do with it and I hope to see school districts in These places like that, we evaluate every two weeks to see how they're doing much greater strain of attacking the job. A couple days ago, other schools

temporarily closed because of covert outbreaks in the states of Alabama California, Georgia, Hawaii Missis it being about into Mexico, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee Taxes and Virginia, and that nothing. large parts of the country that go back to school, get right it? Senses we're gonna, have some outbreaks in schools when everybody's back to school here, so fine with where the mass for now I wish they didn't have to do it. I know it get annoyed by it. I don't think anybody should be thrown school because a kindergartners not wearing it or something like that in a colored like common sense prevail, not thrilled with with republican governors we're trying to ban but are trotted out, not put overs the authority of look or governments. I prefer the governments that are closest to the people be making this decision. It doesnt strike me as unreasonable to want mask and schools, at least for now, I will come back in October. Let's see how things look and maybe it'll become richer low enough. Nobody should know no beast where mask anymore, to try someone who thousand

the closest tweeting yesterday that it looks as though actually Florida made PETE in cases of looks like it's out on the top hit the top of the curve and maybe going down a little bit, which would be a great thing, but I'm with with Jim on this. I just don't know why not up to left up to local school districts to decide let parents, you know, there's a lot of hash promises. Sheila parents fight it out at that level in their communities and in their neighborhoods, rather than having the state come in one way or the other. state hasn't, come in one way or another. I disagree profoundly with this argument and I think it I think it misses, misses the point tat, which is that the state is declining to set a rule in the direction but is

Handing that decision to a smaller unit than itself states can make this call, of course, because states are the unit within our constitutional structure that have the power to the people through the states created. The federal government, which has limited powers and states also created all the local governments, the school board recreations if the state, the counties, our creations of the state and insofar as state constitutions limit what the legislature,

may do with school boards in schools. We still talking about state law, but as a rule, I think it is a good thing when states leave these questions. Most questions to local communities, but that's what's happened here. The debate here is whether this decision should be made by the school board or by individuals. It's not whether the state should making it. I keep seeing this argument. Governor ever run the centres that do see their intruding imperial, not but it better. They are they block in the school board from Land area and saying that after tat parents right, but that they are presenting to a lower and

smaller unity government than themselves, the power that's, not a mandate, that's that's, not a mandate that is seems to me. It would be best just left a scoop, laugh it that's a policy question at this I think where we ve gone wrong in this debate. I am absolutely open to the idea that utilitarian grounds. It makes more sense for school boards for what it's worth. I dont think it does in this case which come to in a moment, but I think the argument is fair and I am open to the idea that I'm wrong. It is not a fair argument by contrast to suggest that, by allowing individuals to make this call, the states riding roughshod.

on a state wide level. It's not what dissenters this downward abbot has done. What do she has done, and I believe also I work South Carolina couple of others- is absolutely in line with the principle of subsidiary It is handing to individual families the capacity to make this cool. If governor dissenters in Florida or Governor habit in Texas had said we are banning mosques in schools. That would be a outrageous,

It would have been outrageous. In my view, if they had said we are mandated mass in schools, although it is telling that all of the people who are making the case against those governest actually want bad, even ass, they pay lip service to local control and if they can't get that, as has been made clear in the last couple of days, went by and said he was gonna civil rights office. They actually want the federal government to impose a national mosque mandate in schools, but I think we're talking about this, the runway. I think this is a policy debate. I think this is a debate as to the best way of approaching it is not a debate over power or state control and and on the merits. I do think on this one that they should be with with parents again. It would not offend me if it with schoolboys. That's how things normally work. That's fine, but I think that, given that there really is very little evidence, this does any good

given that nations that are not backwards and are not anti scientific Britain, for example. Pretty much every country in the European Union have made a different cool in. In England, the weather almost mother's day only say only apply to children over twelve seems to be the case across Europe is well. I think that it is absolutely fair to say this is a question for parents who know their children. either way. The decision should be made at a lower level and it is being made at a lower level and as such they are it has to be how low should the level be

Not whether or not it is being made at a lower level which it yet, but I think the crew probably level been scoreboard for the state is preventing them, while the state would also be preventing parents from deciding if it gave it to the school board. C4 played a rhetorical game. Both ways we have been able to provide their down from the states. You're saying you think, should be further down from the school board, but only about, but I simply reject the framework Youtube. Not say that the state is taking away choice from a smaller unit by giving it to the smallest unit. You can say it's the wrong decision, but it's it's no more. It's no more the case that the state is right: being roughshod over lower government by taking this question.

The hands of the school bus in giving it to parent than you could say is riding roughshod over parents by giving it the scope of what we can do this. This is a purely policy based question as to which level of of authority this matters. I mean you, don't we would say, for example, and an Einstein is a little bit different, because traditional schoolbooks deal with this, although not always shouted school friends. We actually quite light in unit smaller than that. No one would say my goodness may look at the bizarre governor of Montana he's good, is taking away the power of local communities to decide what card at family will drive right. We just think that in some cases, schoolbooks might be a more appropriate level than an individual, I'm totally open to that argument, but I cannot see it s true,

Well it when it is so say, there's a huge outbreak and the school board once do for good reason, have it and a mandate from ass. They can't do it because, right, it said right, but that is an argument that goes all the way up to various levels. That's why it's a matter of prudence and policy, because if you say well, we're gonna set this decision at the individual level than someone can quite reasonably say will hold on a minute. We actually need is to be more a cohesive because we're talking about a communicable disease, but it that reasonable at that point. For someone to say, ok, but in my school, is on the border between its county and. ball county and its side of an arbitrary line? Isn't it to draw given that the children playing a playground, that's in both counties, so I think this has to be a state.

our decision, and then someone can say while I live in the farthest reaches of ignore Florida, very close to you, I have to go in and I think this has to be national, so you know it It would be reasonable if we were talking about a stage that was there was absolutely in a chronically under the cosh for governor to say I normally like this to be with the school board. I think this has to be a state, wise decision and it is reasonable to for the governance

I know I'm gonna leave this with the smallest possible unit, which is the individual. It is purely a matter of policy and I think the mistake people are making is their sort of grafting on the usual and absolutely correct, and an obsession of mine question of the relationship between the federal government and the states and trying to apply that to the states and local governments, but that's not how it works at state level. Every

question at state level of how much powers given to local communities is done purely on the merits, which is why Florida, for example, pre eminence, conceal, carry because it thinks it doesn't make much sense to have no forty seven different rules would be very difficult for conceal, carried to know which county in town he was allowed to carry, but is is not interested, for example, in pre empting zoning regulations. I just I just think this has been turned into a debate over the legitimate use of power, and actually it's a debate over how most prudently to use that power that no one really questions exists in the hands of the state government. So ex question you Jim Gary, we asked us about a month ago. Do you expect vaccination rates too, that this tiktok asunder spreading did a month or so ago. But do you back them to continue going up to standard same trajectory or

down given they mix of news here, one how bad the virus still can be for on vaccinated p, or the news about declining at on the other side letter declining advocacy, the vaccine, the need for boosters word see this directory vaccination guy, Firstly, wretched run numbers it'll go up because people who have two shots labelling, booster yeah, whatever, precisely America? People are most concerned about covered and most eager to go out, get a booster, because it's free though the robot do it lets you. Let us be worth like you know like ten, twenty thirty billion as is, so numbers going are by that damage. I feel but whether our overall in and are the

Egypt, your overall vaccination will go up our vaccination percentage, the cup populations valleys, one shot, will increase to some nice encouraging numbers over the last couple of days and then the single, it is really about. My right now is when our kids can be able to get to the eleven and underbelly of accident it. Unless you want to slip a man as they look twelve Charlie, I think it's gonna continued to grow up and Michael said, if you ago that he thought that and vaccinated people were in the main, more rational them being given credit for either they were making decisions based on what they consider to be that their risk. All the Henriette engaged in the debates torso and they were taken a strong view, and I think you ve seen as the spikes have come,

and the facts nation rates have gone up. I do think, though, that we have to accept that there are some people who just not going to do this, and that is no way we can make them to it, and so I would like to see a continued focus on trying to convince people to get back to night it and to boost the shot. If they can, I would like to see the FDA approved the vaccine. I do think where reaching the point at which the rhetoric is untenable. We want in some parts of the country to make pretty all aspects of life contingent upon taking the vaccine, we want to look down on the people who refuse to take it, but it's also still experimental I'd think go somewhat. You're gonna have to pick one and after that we're gonna have to lean into treatments, because

I knew you'd be compatible with the army have, and you do the citizenry having a good portion of it is just gonna say no, and those people have lives and families and jobs to, and we should try to give them a life where we can set a girl. Basically consider continue on the current trajectory, which has been up a little bed. I do think people than on the fence have been pushed over, because otherwise, the delta variant and the fact that are still alive on vaccinate people, mostly on vaccinated people, getting really sick. So before we go, let's hit a few other things Jim Gary back to school preparations. In the garret household going on here so you know it sir. a little bit earlier this year and through some sort of your blessing from God, or something

looks really nice will blob in my face. I have two son work with eager to go back to school this year, a kind of polluting our previous conversation, not thrilled about the mask they're going to put up with it right now, nothing to see. What's the plan is five days a week the traditional you no end of the first week ice cream, social ahead. I think they can other passing the Russia Football Game, Highschool football game when it had its it's kind of feeling, a little more like normal, It's kind of a sense of optimism. Kids, who brought you were very really disrupted. Really abnormal two straight years, have a prospect if something resembling a normal school year, thereby to stir Have you got a ready for fly the I got waiting for the first public space latte to appear at the start by setting that's it. That's a visual market forces and rent. Oh yes, I was actually just happened yesterday. The big first big major jets injury of a year, the child,

and enjoying the Yankee revival. Other just fund watch at an average. You ve been watching them, but they look like they're having fun. They never look like they're dead, the the place you want to hit a hitting them limit. He still seems a little. We ve got Luke Voice back and the arrival of reserve gala sounds like a kind of talent. Restaurant has scowl beneath them, so it is funny my my brother in law was here. The last couple of days and about six weeks ago, it seems that he just stop watching the Yankees and set up a useless, and I turn a game on he said. Ah, is pointless. What's the point, a night relate to him the events of the last six weeks which he had assiduously avoided, and he was completely astonished said what what's six claims. It arose. Seven up eight now having

That's that's where I was a wilder for two week period than at the time, its trade that minor attuned back in and arrests just made. It seem transformed seem so I've been reading a cabin filled book that I had on my chauffeur Ireland's amazing how time passes it actually is published and twenty twelve serpents they ne'er a real long time. It's called one thousand seven hundred and seventy five a good year for revolution, and it's kind of a sequel to his book. The cousins WAR Ii just fantastic and had a huge influence on me, and it's just this. Is you don't want to read Kevin Phillips on contemporary events, but he's just fantastic on history, with this fine grained socio political religio analysis of other? strengthened in this is a wonderful book. Search for a girl. Let's hit are errors pigs, Jimmy Harry? What's your back?

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