In this short and snappy Editors episode, Rich, Charlie, and Jim discuss the VA governor’s race, the reconciliation bill, and more.
Editors’ picks: • Rich: John McCormack’s piece “John Eastman vs. the Eastman Memo” • Charlie: Jim’s reporting on the Wuhan question • Jim: Charlie’s piece “Biden in Wonderland”
Light items: • Rich: The Buckley Prize Dinner • Charlie: Traveling • Jim: Mexican food in Dallas
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The Editors is hosted by Rich Lowry and produced by Sarah Colleen Schutte.
This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
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said anything so Charlie and Jim we're all sitting together in an extremely nondescript small
this room at the fair mine hotel here in Dallas Texas, where an hour I, how the bang up boldly dinner last night could see dozen persons kind of unusual rich Charlie is the first time I've taped the editors in front of
one ever this is the other side I came in. I had three dimensions are getting. Railways is unlike an acre nervous right now, I'm gonna freaking out there
but let me start with you, Jim Virginia:
material raise. We got. Some polls show it tide we had during the call us to some
he ought to be very scientific data driven by this kind of stuff. He looks and sounds exhausted, desperate and afraid when you make a,
That's the signal because we ve been burned by poles before four years ago, at the less be looked like, he was fairly close and got walked by about nine percentage points. It wasn't my close at all
Virginia s broken the hearts of Republicans workable cycles right now biting
higher Lee subjective sense of Europe. I long yard signs and authenticity Words Fairfax County. It certainly feels like I'm seeing more young consigns, and I usually do would certainly thing.
You're. A time of all the signs are usually do something: ok,
is this a chance. This essential me seeing what I want to see. Well, when I see tearing up all of cutting off an interview halfway through insisting he's had enough time and complaining about the question
the big I asked when you see I'm doing a running, an added entirely defensive insane.
the words I used in the debate were taken out of context, your parents- I do want you to make your way. It underscores that suggests to me. He see something else. It's freaking out and makes me want to something else. It suggested the polling were saying that a super
The close, probably is accurate, is promising the same things and he's acting like momentum is not on the side. So surely the
The young people are tired themselves. Chairing the cause is running on issues. People don't really care much about. Abortion sets nodded imminent threat of any.
Major new abortion restrictions in Virginia he's running ass, a guy who's not on the ballot, Donald Trump and
actually. This is a test case if, if you can actually pull this off, Tufted Virginia now, basically democratic state, your by one of my
points, but it could be that he has. It is managing this tyro
but not alienating Trump voters at the same time, not making himself repulsive to
the suburbs. Whether there are indications that he's doing better than republicans have over did in the end the trump era. Where were you in this respect? I think what is going to win, but I do think is going to be closed and I think the coolest has largely blood. I just don't think is blown it enough to overcome what people more familiar with the school, the fundamentals and the fundamentals in Virginia good for Democrats and they're- probably not quite good enough for Republicans. Yet I think if this election were held next year under similar circumstances, but with the economy in the state that is like they're going to be and republican basis at the feet of pitch, that they're, probably going to head than young men, would be the favour, but I just can't get
past the advantage that Democrats have an and predict anything other than a call it when I will say that if you were writing this, this one episodes West Wing.
You would assume young king was going to win Mccall if his frazzled, I think he thinks he might lose. As Jim said, he walked out an interview and the
german school district superintendent yesterday
essentially did the worst possible thing that he could do to help turn equality in announcing, in pretty Aragon, an outer reality letter that they would take the whole
we are just before the election in order to cater to the mental health of
teachers who just happen,
be liable for mental health breakdowns on the two days about week that they are working. They already have the remaining three offers. One is prevented: preemptive mental health crises brake on occasion. Here
the letter was everything the you'd want to avoid were turned a corner.
Said sorry for the late notice, parents and love that it said, we think that
It is probably won't show up. We don't given the day off
said it does seem to be a law, a lot breaking, but I just I can't see it and- and I also know that an awful lot of people have already voted in Virginia.
So the african people. I have not gone back german review. These numbers
They say that there are over,
performing early, though still behind that early vote, unprecedented damage, early bob, but there's no real focus on the party
invokes the whole rallies and say: walk without ceases. Early go appoint, placed an internals in our internal policy
make of them what you well, but they say in the last few weeks they haven't trail,
no, they ve been tied up one or two. I was really close rest
The reason why so close one of them over willingly visit their environment, but is education which joint mission at Richmond letter. You mention, of course, answer just jawdropping answer in that debate that parents should be bomb was taught to their their kids any
and gave a speech on education that something he's hammering and one of these goals that had a time Monmouth I forget, which had younger,
highly head on and educational just seismic change. I can remember last hour above her head on edge, maybe George W Bush, when you persons warble note
left behind them. Otherwise it's an issue. They reliably lose the deceased, be changing. Charlie said that the fundamentals of the states to favour democrats- and I got a wonderfully the ground- is shifting under our feet in the sense that usual
Democrats do well. I think I want to spend more on education. I want a higher more teachers, love Europe and an annual costs. Soft focus. You can see the guy with Israel
jack it over his shoulder speaking in the classroom. Usually that work, that's not what people socio democratic educational
they now the associated with critical, raise theory and crazy sex I'd! Stop it.
teaching kids at his way to not appropriate preventive age
Where does not? Have the schools opened for the better part of your meeting? Parents lives miserable throughout the bad. What you twenty twenty, so yeah,
that all people does not feeling woman fuzzy towards bulls begin with them is one of the things like people have always democrat.
I will give a term of all of this is the least scandalous governor reaching it has had a
really, that's really low bartered. Clearly you ve gotten Obama doubting Malta gifts and then governor black face,
and though it was a year of this. Ninety one was enormously warm fuzzy feelings about her, it no longer, and the above mentioned, maybe
these roll in the fact that there were other, more progressive, a bunch of african american candidates in primary.
But it was just as very maximum rates at the bats.
that's not like her but I'll be back,
but you at all that are holding Democrats feel about it
used about a bit on all that fighting hunger. We gotta run through the reports to defend germ of Olaf, so one- and I would add that I hope, even identity because it is going to lose- is that this is genuinely been erased.
Is dominated by Virginia politics and somebody who runs around the country, Spain,
in the good word federalism and who writes about this. Incessantly stop nationalizing every question. Stop raising every question. Nationally, often I'm disappointed me. We ve seen in pretty much total terms the end of split ticket voting. If you look at the presidential elections and Senator
elections now attend line up, and we have seen increasingly state elections following National Pat now that still happens, but with this one none
the attempts to nationalize this Virginia election of world, the obvious play that Mccoy store was going to get him over,
the line wishes to call young can Donald Trump from the beginning that doesn't work.
so presumably thought he was gonna. Be able to point to Joe Biden who, when he started running, was popular and say: look I'm with Joe Biden while that hasn't word and
This has come down to education policy in Virginia and democratically by Russia,
speak to a lesser extent covered and the states response to, rather than the national response, as a really good trend in politics. I have. There are more of these elections where people are arguing over
things the state government actually does, rather than over what TED Crusader Elizabeth Warren said yesterday on TV, so
There is actually been some people say the young people should try to nationalizing, because Biden standing at the moment, but by standing and Virginia novel
Is this a little bit underwater, those not fifteen twenty points like you're saying elsewhere,
so? Jim Charlie has preemptively already multiple times answered the ex questions now server. You
Who will win the Virginia gubernatorial action? China cough work when young men like a poster in the x files. I want
I think I think they're really close down over such one or two.
I'll go with my heart and I'll say young can, but I think he's gonna be like enough. Fifty point, one to forty nine point two or support that really
I do not know whether you have really really really really really really close inflicts lopping, my answer from two weeks ago, or so I think it's gonna be young kids now. So what
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So just a programming note is: it seems, like a child
or unusually clipped in their answers, and I was talking really fast.
Could we have a heart out here in about twenty minutes or I'm gonna Miss Mr Visser Flights
What were you haven't you ever foreshortened absurdity,
land about thirty minutes, rather than our long for and for some
Sets are the utters a jolly good news and reconciliation bill? We had a report from other Jones. It Joe Mansion is telling people he might leave
the product party. We have hardened position, apparently from Christian Cinema, that she's not favour
in favour of increasing corporate taxes.
or individual tax rates.
And Joe Biden confirmed down the town hall last night, there's an hour recording here Friday more,
where do you think this stance? Why think- and this is not strictly novel ass, an observation, but this is absurd. Dimension and customs.
And I think, judging by his answer last night, Joe Biden might finally realised this thus far Joe Biden and others who just kept saying the same thing, we're gonna do gonna do it did
They don't have a problem which I imagine occurrence in ambush, possibly with others, and we don't know. For example, what Maggie Hassan is going to look she's, underwater and anxious in India is a strong candle, looks like he's going to run. She's never commented on this reconciliation, but she's never had a single word
you haven't said now, but she has said yes either and then you also have Warner
Virginia could potentially be thrown off killed. Her young can work to win and at tester in Montana, does seem to be more on board. But but is reluctant toward the upper end of of the spending scale.
One person who doesn't seem to have noticed this tool is good old, Bernie Sanders and if you read the axiom report is quite funny because many
the saying I'm probably gonna- do that, but he's getting irritated results is a woman who should do their way. We should check six month whether we should do now
At all- and you just get this impression- is no video photographs enemies but sounded
in the corner rocking backwards enforcing, but it's got to be three four point: five trillion and then mentioned says
I'm not going to do that bonuses, but the three point: five trillion. This is my moment, and it is this moment
she saw Missus credit, he came along and he has remained. The democratic party in many ways
and this is his last shot open, not being
bit here when I say that Republicans are likely to take back at least the house, and if the political current plans they look
it may well. This is going to be a longshot for Democrats to do something big improbably five. Six years,
and burning is an old man and he knows it, and so he still desperately trying to get this done, but Joe Mansion and Cinema are showing that they are not going to play ball. So the question now is to what extent
they're, not gonna, play ball. A lot of what mansion set is pretty encouraging from my perspective because he doesn't seem to fit
If there is any imperative to do this at all, even though he might be on board with some of it, you said why not wait six months, let's take a pause. Zero is fine past the other building destructible that was supposed to be sent on a bipartisan basis.
And has the cinema is more of an enigma, but she doesn't seem particularly bullet whether this passes all not either
and in terms of the details, the key here is that the two of them have baron
and their red lines, and they don't lie in our
since then read both the problem, and I agree that it should be one point: five trillion. It has to be the chart tax credit and will raise the corporate tax rates this will be over. If that were the case, was cinema wants precludes what man?
answer. My mansion wants galleys were set up to it as it is to be complicated matter if everything else on a topic, but that said Jim,
This to me, as though there obviously not doing it by today, they said they're gonna have some headline deal by today, but you close enough. Maybe next week,
it's something then taken can characterized as really loose sort of agreed
and then go do what I think they should have done all along
by Parson infrastructure bill. It's a bit
bill had my number one point: two trillion
Brian Rideau Hand, Institute points out. This would be one
the biggest non emergency spending bills and U S
history! Take that victory give
buying something to brag about giving the signing ceremony with some republican standing there behind them and try to,
its momentum on that basis is not you know he could use some good news and then dangler reconciliation with which the idea that
could hold a by rupture bill over mansion and cinema and that would would make them crack obviously
wrong. This is not happening so said. Take a win
but maybe they'll get to a place where they actually do. That. Does I trying to keep my assessment of the state
make your flight. This is why I am not going to ask you at all this absurd that the other fellow Comic Bavaria guessing my flight and Dallas all night about out of your safer, but the hotel, so
likely they had of getting a deal. I think mansion and cynical find some version that they can all out of agree on is gonna, be in one point: nine trillion utopian range.
And anything that, as you said, you throw the one trillion bipartisan inflexible. On top of that, like frolic of when you ve gotta, be three point: five trillion they're gonna get
three trillion between these two bills? That's a lot of spending. Now we just had a fantastic event with cabin acid boom said some stuff, the carnage
Had a big beyond was gonna misdirection related out
we're gonna have allows you to leave your more, maybe another, one right up that supply chain stop giving negative, maybe they're in Turkey or between inflation and supply chain issues,
we have some really rough economic waters, but don't worry we're gonna, throw three by five. Every three trillion
new federal spending. On top of that, it's gonna be fine, is binding.
Emphasising this is a poor.
let her bill jobs. Dexterous bore over those were counting.
But you weren't point the jobs of the bill: job creation when we have ten Wentworth
and until jobs in the country. Right now, I think this guy security than albatross heading two letters- Obamacare was not a big winner for Democrats is ahead into twenty two. The terms
Think Democrats can get what they think they want. The like an old adage, be careful what you wish work. They might just go,
I think they will be heading into really rough economic waters. Twenty twenty two people to seize the giant amount of spending their number to the lives of a lot better store, shouting to be empty for wireless can take. One of these
Can you she's worked out people to be real appeal to the president? Agnes uses business giant spending boondoggle and Republicans. Why suspect, have very good twenty twenty metres.
Try cook ex question. You asked a version of this many many times I often ass. It was the odds about those go down, was just focus on reconciliation percentage ads
installation dough goes down worry on that now and what do you think that passes? What's the trouble I never saw? It is about a forty five percent. Chance will go down.
I'm trying to reach zero on both going down.
But yet I went back without a kindness, because when when it is obvious, if it is obvious that reconciliation is dying, they will certainly pass the other one as otherwise it will look stupid. Son, I was at forty five percent.
Conciliation is reconciliation, passes everyone points. Seven, it's gonna be tough there, because if Cinema is serious about the taxes and binding said last night that shit-
is then getting the higher number carries much more political past, especially when the president has been pretending that it's free the whole argument that is free, which is absurd on its own terms, is that is paid for you can pay for it and quite ass obvious way. If you don't raise taxes, a new cockles billing eyes, the wretch inside a wretched paying for it. If you don't raise taxes,
Third, it changes the can get in. I a way that one point: nine trillion two trillion range, the odds of both
going down. I came up with more than twenty as a reconciliation gonna,
I do not go down the path, something they might get. You know shrunken nonstop Togo they'll find pretty both specimen.
so I think the last time I was ten percent chance both going down to grow
radiation is about twenty five percent. You know,
A calf loses that's going to be a major blow. You could see Democrats scurrying in fear in all directions, especially in the house. So save me, twenty five percent
ass the reconciliation building one points up, maybe,
maybe a scooter lower than that
but I think closer to one point: five than to chew
who said Jim Gary other big story. This week we have a letter from a health.
called the visual saying. Oh, you know what
Surely we did accidently without
knowing fund
gain of function. Researchers.
The war on land,
So this is a quite new smoking gun that that our research dollars help create the the covert pandemic.
but, as you said, another indication that, eighteen months whatever it is into this there's lot, we don't know- and you ve had a lot of people hiding the balls,
certainly the outfit that was directly involved in this
Funding ahead of it has been involved actively in a cover up to try to get people off the sand and
had major. U S! Officials!
so knowingly, but but maybe there's more censure.
I should like Anthony found she saying now we didn't do this and police shut up and don't ask us about it again. You're a conspiracy theories rich. Do not ask me about comic books,
annabel. But I got my but third rate. Passion of my life will yield my time just would observe like people than a rate Anthony Fouche Yogi falls within
deserves to when he said we did not find you. I don't think you with that. That statement is now being offered, as they say in the
some days. I do any also make some brief. Is gonna come Francis Collins Way, I don't. I don't dispute any of it
but I really want the whole wide world to start really bugs.
I'm Peter Desert, and because otherwise this is a linchpin of the whole thing and they beat that
payment from an age is like love they were telling
Everything was going on in the contract. The grant they're supposed to tell us within five days they added a breakthrough like this works
Finding about it now, but we ve set them,
sternly worded letter to update any information they love, I wanna see deputies, amateur Marshall, Sable Gerard.
I can the fugitive yelling. I want a hard hearted, Searchingly outhouse together, looking for Peter Data coming to drag the more progress on the road and I want
Every last document delete everything with this project with the eco have White was doing with honey to biology because
turns out. They were doing research. There wasn't officially gain a function. Research was awfully close together.
Function. Research at all by the way, just happened to make them a lot more dangerous.
a lot more potentially very little about you and endangers the people in these look back mice with humanised lungs because they wanted to know how to back to human beings and read and paper forty minutes I'll stop here
Those three continue next execution.
you Charlie cook the rebels
Is that what was going on and the Wilhelm LAB and the role you stars had an it will fall
a major re evaluation of how the sort of research is conducted. Yes or no, yes, but they won admit of that's happening. Jim, I say: Mattress Charlot further can be very evasive, slippery, very technical, we'll get out
yes, but not Clare, clear answers. I agree that the change in deny that their changing or there's any reason that they had to change with that, let's hit a few other.
things before we go on expedited episode, Jim Gary, you been enjoying Mexican through your doubts. Yes,
I got a year, not a little bit early. The first plane tree by taking the pandemic is the first
I've been, you know anything remotely
travel you're driving around the country earlier this year,
when two may,
so my absolutely from from Israeli, because we're not rush into plain to try to get their central next convergence
when you were terrific. Yes, we have nice, mask restaurants and Virginia about this.
when you come in dollars, was supposed to enjoy tacos in Barbados and draw up Charles and stuff, like that. It's terrific, if you're in Dallas, together
So at the hotel where I was staying, I went down to breakfast and, as I get the old mill,
I seriously or what are the oatmeal, and I saw how essential, because there had had a browser,
announcing russian asking the wrong guy see. I was like I got order that it was. You know, other cartels and eggs over this God. Spicy chicken, with little threads of chips and extend it was, was also- and I always made a desperate mistaken ordering Jacob way been up to
Evelyn last week I was in new york- is weak in Texas, I'm miss, and when we talk about some forecasts a while ago, what he must have covered just traveling like the whole pageantry of the check in there
even the tears, a pre line, man,
ending new city getting an uber to a hotel. I just I just missed it, and it's funny. I was talking to people at my table last night here and they're all saying the same thing. This is a sudden validation that comes with moving around different places in the world.
finally got to do it again here. I wish to say that the dinner last night was fantastic. Listeners of her legs were going on to me.
Three hundred fifty people in the room honouring gmail.
and let other federal society Adam Myerson of you, you spirited, Fledgeby, roundtable, there's just a fantastic
stick evening, wonderful lotteries, and so many friends in the room and new friends in the room. It was a great time. Are you looking for
so the one next year, which is gonna, be out at the Reagan library. So at that time, in podcast
Jim Gary for editors picks. What's your pic Charlie cooks
binding in wonderland,
You can see what we pick on Joe Biden allotted national view and dumb
we do because he deserves it and he's gotta. Just the observation of a how often this administration talks about things either in some sort of older reality where things are really going to
in the border really is just Cecil pattern. Inflation is transitory and Afghanistan is run.
lay and don't eat women, particularly don't worry people to judges on supply chain thing. Don't worry about me. I'm paternity leave is just one
after another, and I could reach garlic up all day long. All the drop off your thickets
I'm just saying this, because Jim chose mine all because he had already has the night my throat, but I think we should just look back on Jim's reporting. On the one hand, question once again, you you're right, but pretty much everything you said was right on top of it and it must have a pretty good to take repeated victory. Lapse, died, suppose
like the other, give will feral saying I feel a bit crazy bills because, like I'm really part up by this and lots of other people, I guess it's just a mystery where this came from its coincidentally happened or unwanted, relapsed worldwide gainful to research on background of Irish. Here we go about getting stuck in a rut. I don't just mean that the requirement to holding the absolute treasure trove information about this so
I was afraid. One of you guys was now take this one. Fourthly, didn't because it at the back scratching those going. John Mccormick has wonderful piece on homepage. Now, Johnny he's been versus the Lisbon memo. That's it a deep dive into the meadow
and even the views about it now and he s men
is disavowing key aspects,
the memo was his
very notable and an ad and a good thing. No one should be in favour of the views that are being propagated about what the vice President Kudu there after the election and twenty twenty, so that
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