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at its off national review, dot com and Jim Garrison is a senior brackets old. I think you have it correspondent, How sponsors today are woke racism, which is a new book by Colombia, is John with water and my pipe more on those later, let's go to Congress, where the Democrats just can't seem to get it done job Hoddan went before his trip to Rome over to capital, hell and said pay. My whole presidencies on the line. These did you pass something and the relevant players in the parties, no, I don't think we're going to do that Jim. This look. Like a pretty embarrassing moments. Abiden, irrespective of what happens next, he pleaded with them. He gave him a timetable. He asked

do something for him. Nancy Pelosi then said: let's do this for Joe and they didn't Charlie it's going to be with you went out before we dive into the topic that I'm really glad that we are sponsored by woke racism, the book and not woke racism, the concept because when you say we are sponsored by woke racism that I might get the wrong idea The problem that I'm gonna Caprice, YO preview- my editors pick from my are concerned Mr Philip line but it is assessing of why the infrastructure bills running to trouble and on step is this recognition that, like all this talk of it out Democrats, have said another deadline to pass their major spending bill bill back better. The all of the deadlines are self imposed. and thus there is no sense of well, we dont, passed by the time Joe Biden goes to Europe, that's it, we're dropping the idea it's never not without dog, at its next completely caput. Everybody knows

that, if they dont do it by a certain deadline, they're just continue on work on the next week. There is no real deadline and that's why you don't feel bad much pressure, either on a mention in cinema or on the house, progressive caucus store, or neither factory with it there. So it's kinder, no artificial drama, and I the iron, this as much as I would love to see this whole thing, but I'm flames in my Brennan Dorothea trigger peace ricotta makes the argument that this is not the idea of this whole thing going down in flames of neither build back better nor the bipartisan infrastructure bill passing. Is it conceivable I figured they would pass by partisan infrastructure framework. almost certainly, and it looks like the space between where mentioned and cinema are in the house, progressive copies are really shrunk down. I'd be surprised if some time in the next couple weeks, they don't get both versions past

And its last version is, it is like what one point: seven five trillion, only one point: seven five trillion. I think they're gonna do it because I think the consequences of failure. Would be just so the would be So bad for for Democrats about the house. The Senate freak em out- and they say I welcome. We all agree on. What's best that and so my suspicion is that the idea that the idea, scenario for fiscal conservatives in which the internal divisions, the Democratic Party, stop them running for passing anything. I don't, that was ever really at the cars. It is good. it's down to only one point: seven, five, joy of the add that at one point one trillion Biff get up close to three trail in a new spending. But hey it's not like this inflation going on for months We need the economy can only be good right and most of all

Lee Joe Biden reassures us: this is a jobs bill during a labour shortage, waited Go Brent, let's go random number one in every state in the union fell. Obviously I'm having spent burns eyeball spending, crashes and bans, but it doesn't look as if it's going to and yet they dont have a bill yet and the infrastructure this he was passing the Senate. That's the smaller ones, Republicans helped with five hundred and fifty billion new spending. this reconciliation, but it is not a bill still. So how much is still the problem in that by then said yesterday we have a framework I hope everyone can get on board He then released at an mansion and cinema said well. Maybe although it

seem to contain provisions that are unacceptable to both of them. Press if seemed more into it, but not entirely. Where are we I think we are probably closing in on both bills. Passing I will say that I dont see. I think that- and I've been same this from the beginning- that the two bills are inseparable and I think that the most likely scenarios that they most they both past the secondary sinner Rio is that they both go down. There is no scenario I can see in which one passes without the other just speakers of it, the small majority,

Among the the stand off between progressives and the so called moderate, although I don't particularly think that them at their moderate, if they okay, two trillion dollars of spending, but I'm the

issue right now. I think that the timing I wouldn't get too caught up and, as Jim said and as I've been saying for a while, there's no real deadline. This isn't something where a program is going to expire by x date. If it's not renewed, that's that's a real deadline. This is not particularly a deadline. Maybe, if you get into December there is that your people want to go home for Christmas and that there's a sense of a deadline. That's what happened with the the twenty seventeen tax cuts. It would happen with Obamacare, so that tends to be when things would kind of happen, but it seems that they're closed.

Because you have legislation that the progressive said that they support and would be willing to vote for, assuming that they have commitments from mansion and cinema that there are going to vote for this while mansion and cinema haven't conclusively said they vote for it. They haven't said anything to suggest that they couldn't vote for this debate, that they could. Vote for it without some minor modifications it seems like were beyond the point where there is a clear, dear breaker,. now. If you look at what mansion is actually said, he should vote against this because he said that at a time when we can pay for the entire elements, we have

adding new entitlements as the definition of fiscal insanity- and this would add a number of entitlements. It would create a universal pre. Kate had a man, a new child care. Title man extend these monthly welfare payments to parents. So basically it is exactly what mansion said. He wasn't gonna do but it seems like he's mostly on board a better want. Why do you say that? What why does it seem like is mostly on board? Well, I think that in the past he's been more critical when things have come up when very

versions of this along the line he said things like I'm, not spending meeting of three point: five trillion dollars. He said a lot of things, but he didn't want to do the he's not comfortable with raising corporate tax rates. Here too, as too high why there were basically red lines for him and he hasn't really said anything like that. His statements were more along the lines of your work, continuing to TED talk in good faith- and you know people should trust the president and so forth, and so I tried a thing that he's close the one caviar and I don't want to get too far ahead of us this? I know we were gonna talk about the Virginia governors raise later, but I will say that I think that that is the one thing they could potentially

a reshuffle the deck if young can does manage to pull it off, especially if it a comfortable victory, and it becomes pretty clear- as I think one of the clear today who is would be that your Biden, sagging, approve a rating is a big reason behind it. I think that my killed that might help the mansion into the to be a corner of San. We need it to your hardness position about needing a six month, strategic pause, and I so I wouldn't be surprised if that starts to.

some sort of moderate away, but it could also go in the dark. The opposite direction by making Democrats feel like they knew tat, pass some things that they have something to run on and said that they didn't squander There is a majority, because, basically the writing in the wall for twenty twenty two. they may panic and feel like they have to pass something. So it's not obvious that the Virginia raised works out in the way that we wanted to and kills both bills, but it's the least will would reshuffle the deck I think and changed now makes a bit the gym wary you on the technical question, there's been some debate over there somewhere. people say that Eve Nancy.

You can't wrangle enough votes from within her own party, because the progressives holding out then, we should use the Republicans in the house who seem willing to vote for the bipartisan infrastructure bell and that this would be a good thing, because It would lessen the pressure on Cinema and mansion, free them up to block this? Second big bell. And led us all into some little plants and other people say no, no, no, no! No, that would work if you pass this bill, don't move straight on to the next one and Republicans will have acquiesced. We can't even China tapped sir. I met this question, but, what's on my mind, will hopefully eliminate this that the actual answer there so this bill,

strange phenomenon in which this is you know here. I've been mentioned, as they are the biggest and most cards when of legislative fight of Joe Biden First year, presently it maybe that the entire binding presidency hang the balance of this but a couple got. There was a pretty good, starting with political said. You could find quite a few Democrats Capital Hill, who are like, where the house, Joe Biden all their state. The obvious we understand you want a deal right, we understand what he had something pass, but what Red ones, what is he see as being absolutely necessary to get in the bill? What does he willing to jettison where why I guess you could say that kind of came out with a White House issued their version compromise version like twenty four hours before Bible to go to Europe. You could say that they. Finally, the present step a visit by a dire processed there's been This question in a lot of us in our periodically.

will be sitting round will say: oh my god, by so bad alma got things are so much worse than we expected. Even that you know, even without funds can be bad. Russia is biting decrepit involving afar. Some of these lack of energy in the executive. You might say: is this general lack of clarity of what does your Biden actually wanted for a long time, because, early on in his presidency, fine said he wanted to be a united. By said, he wanted to be by partisan one to let all that put away The anger, division and they'll come to lower the temperature on Washington, the bipartisan infrastructure for infrastructure framework. even though we are not really huge fans of it. Of all the spending proposals Biden has put out their infrastructure is probably the me among the more defensible yes almost all of us like roads and bridges. I think the attorney know that cliche are crumbling roads and bridges chance to be wrought in its own about how much we spend on anything to the irish usual appropriations process or the stimulus of Obama there's even

Good, you know you got back pouch and go back to three years later and still complaining about our crumbling roads and bridges. But all in all it looked like ok Bob and really wanted this big infrastructure deal is gonna, be by Artisan use gonna get the Mitt Romney the bill capacities and adjourn. The report means of the maybe they say everybody commas? Ok, there you go, you got your big bipartisan accomplishment, see the parties can work together and by any density body was. I know you don't retain these two things together. I don't want to pass by heart and infrastructure framework until I get unless I know I'm getting build back better as well. This is a complete inversion of the role he seemed to be playing throughout most of the twenty Twond democratic primary work bite. It was the at one half of the robust label elder statesman. He had the elder part down the statement

is all shaky air, but he was gonna, be the guy who could sell the progressive. I can't do that now. We can't afford it that we can get this, but you can't get that now he was gonna be the brakes. On the air Seas and Johan Omar, so the world, and since taking up, as Biden has not been all that interested it, and I think it was your doors currents Goodwood in all these other folks who put this idea, is that if you could be the Ex ante, are you could be the next I'll be J? This is the time to transform the country with your fifty It's the Senate, your three Despair that now and in the end, I agree entirely with the Democrats in houses that have basic, I don't think they there's a lot of my soul and have a mental auto pilot from the beginning of the Obama years. But when you ve only got three or four votes: despair in the house. You, you can't do big crazy stuff It's really tough, to keep your colleagues together when get fifty. It's really really tat. When you have fifty Kaerusson Cinema Joe mentioned effectively, have a veto over anything. You want to do. That's the reality used to suck it up except

What legal reality of us so as when you ask yourself what she'll get you have joined with you together? Something it all depends a wants to do. I would have figured heading into getting the big bipartisan accomplishment and running on the country and say look at what we do and look at how we manage to work with Republicans and look at how we manage to bring you back in doing that. Instead of running around the country and say that forty five days ago, man Jim, is new viewers, surveying Golly and Jihad. Republicans at the end of your strength, would you tell them go ahead and provide the votes for the bipartisan infrastructure, Belinda ass in the hope of killing or limiting the second battle. Now I would at this point I would say if I'm arab workmen, Romania has Republican. I say you know what thought reelected Joe Biden, but apparently we got some Bernie Sanders club. He looks like Biden, but spending like Alexander

this guy doesn't there's no indication that binding on this in a whole bunch of other issues by is willing to work with because anything else screw you guys so the majority do not meet our votes to pass. This thing, I'm not going to support the infrastructure bellicose you guys are gonna. Do no love that on this other spending bill. So I gotta get like my importance returned things like Amazon upon him over song. Mitt Romney gotta worry about his seat in Utah you, I don't think the single Republican in the sun who had indicated I'm in about four bipartisan if research framework who would pay an enormous price for saying no Democrats that this is not only a sucker You guys do want to work with us on anything else. I'm not giving my mecca lemme, give you my boat when you guys really needed now that he's gotta go for this, but nobody wants to be anything so you you mentioned that the Democrats have a small majority and that this is handed a great Europe, dimension and cast in cinema and of course you understand,

what I am about to say well and have noted it yourself, but it's interesting. I think that many people within the Democratic Party in the press, especially the progressive parts of the press, just cannot seem to grasp that the problem the Democrats have is not Joe Mansion Accustomed Cinema, but German, she cast in Cinema and fifty republican separatist. Keep saying this from Bernie Sanders and from progressive activists its outrageous that two people out of one hundred can haul the Senate hostage, not know the nod if two people were holding the Senate hostage, the ninety eight would quickly shut them down fifty two people, ah well, what holding it hostage? I don't think that's how we would describe, but- and this annoys me in particular- because it

totally. Miss casts how the Senate and the federal government is supposed to work. For a start, the federal government is not the british parliament. Britain a unitary state, parliament delegate some powers locally, but it can take them away. The United States is a federal republic, the federal government's not supposed to do very much in the first place, so the default position for the federal government should be no issue be limited to those areas in which it has enumerated pass, the time. Yes, it is moved into other areas, but be normal for the majority of senators by which I mean the majority of states to say no, that's estate, question. So. The idea in and of itself but Joe mention along with fifty

Publicans Orchestra Cinema, along with fifty republicans, are somehow watering. Democracy is silly because every single thing in this bill could be passed at the state level. Every single thing, perhaps the climate change stuff, would need to be done federally to get the effect that they want, but the parts that have been pulled out. could be done at state level, but also fifty two is a bigger number than forty eight, and I keep reading this from Bernie Sanders does is to people in Congress is to people now just keep thwarting the rest of us no other up. There are fifty two, that's what you get when you get a fifty fifty Senate, which we have- and I just say that Jim to underscore your point. they are in this position. Biden is worried about his presidency progressives seeing much of their agenda scale back because

There are very many of them around enough of them. seems to be lost somehow back in January, between January faith,. in January sex. We somehow went from fighting to be the first president to come in without control of Congress, since one thousand nine hundred and eighty eight to Joe Biden is Franklin, Roosevelt Overnights and much of the spell is. Result so that we will move on to our first sponsor woke racism, the book, not the concept as Jim points out. This is not the sort of port that would be fruitfully sponsored by war

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ISM by John Mc Water is available now, wherever books I sought out before we move to the extra question and then on to our next topic. I want to pose the same question to fail that I opposed to Jim. Where are you on this strategic debate? Over How Republicans in the house should proceed on these two to tractors? Well, just to put my cards on the table substantively. I think It's a terrible idea and that every Republican should vote against it, because it's a terrible idea, our roads are not come crumbling. There is not an urgent need to spend This money we early you're gonna, spend hundreds of billions of dollars on infrastructure. Federally over the next decade, in addition to all of the state money, the greenest span,

We don't need to spend an additional half a trillion dollars on top of that, and especially despite what the proponents of the bill say, this is not deficit neutral, it add two hundred fifty billion dollars to the deficit so putting my cards on the table. I dont substantively support this bill, but I think it would be on top of that a massive political miscalculation, in fact it would be political malpractice for Republicans to give policy the margin if she can't come with enough progressives to to vote for this, because it's pretty clear that the two bills or length there is no way in which you pass one without the other and let's just basically sit look at game out both of those

cylinder scenario. One Republicans give the policy the birds In that scenario, there is no chance that mansion and cinema part their win and just say: ok, we're done now not after negotiation, not after bite. In sticking his neck out and say, trust me. I've got these people support there, not nothing in their past suggest that they wanted completely. Torch, their relationship with the Democratic Party, if that were true mansion, would have become a republican years ago. He does not want to do that. His M o is always been too. You know maybe complain about certain things stake out vision that less extreme than the far left, and ultimately just beer

party line guy and do what it needs to be done to support the party. Why so I just don't see that is happening. I take it if this infrastructure bill passes the other they'll passes. Now, let's look at another scenario in which progressives shoot. Dat strikes down. Republicans allowed progressives to strike down the infrastructure bill that we could completely and rage the moderate and say that centrally the progressives, have become arsonists they're, just my way the highway and mention is made statements that he'd be perfectly happy to walk away. with zero dollars new spending. So if that's the case, I think that it really be challenging mansion to suck it up. It still vote for that

bill when he didn't get what he wanted. So I I think that the whole thing could blow up now. It's true that the most likely scenario still remains that they sort of lick their wounds and come back to negotiate. asian and eventually come up with some sort of the old Democrats like to spend money. There would probably continue delight to spend money on, but maybe odds that if bill If this goes down, the odds are much higher than both bills go down there. The odds are that the infrastructure bill and only be infrastructure built passes. While that leads us neatly in to the exit question, which is well, the infrastructure

Bilbil pass next week that at least for now Nancy policies plan Jim Geraghty. Well, the infrastructure Bell path next week and if not when will it pass? It will not pass next week. It will pass some time in the month of November, early December fell yeah, I agree not next week, but within a few weeks I think is going to pass next week. I wouldn't be surprised if it passed with republican votes and then we had a different fight on our hands over the reconciliation Bell, but I hope you ah birthright and now to Virginia, which has got unexpectedly exciting and not just because Joam Garral she lives it.

seemed to serve Glenn Young in the republican candidate was doing ok but not well enough. It may turn out to be the case it. He did ok, but not well enough, And yet yes, day, a Fox news Paul. I'm sure listeners notice, but they're pulling operation is well respected and is separate from any editorial opinion elements show third goin yanking winning by while quite loves it eight points and winning, on every major issue, except covert, which was designed by one point but winning on education. When on the economy, and we should stop for a moment to point out that Republicans winning on education is remarkable

and unusual, and since that point it feels as if there has been a great deal of momentum for younger Mccall, if seems to be frazzled, seems to be making me stakes, I saw today that someone on his team told a reporter from Fox to F off in a public couple, and it seems possible that the Mccall of Campaign is playing dirty tricks by sending democratic operatives or democratic sympathetic operatives to pose this white supremacist outside Glenn Jenkins boss. In a place I didn't know, existed good, Guadalajara Virginia anyhow. The details notwithstanding since yesterday, maybe a couple of days before it is suddenly seemed possible that gun yanking is going to win this thing, Jim Garrulity Sage of Virginia where's, the re sad

look. I think you accurately described what feels like, not just a momentum shift, but an accelerated momentum shift. We talked about this. little more than a week ago, one the bunch of us were in Dallas and we started to believe. I think nothing that has happened in the past week would make you say ok, terrific Aleph, is writ right that my register at written as shredded the ship but everything's fine and he's gonna glide to another term as governor you described today where five folks, putting a young woman, including one african American, dressed up like those idiot white Nationalist Yahoo. You were marching through Charlottesville chanting, whose will not replace us, and I want to speak to them. behalf, but I'm guys and pressure the Jews. Don't wanna, be you don't worry to fund the tell tale bullets. You keep the losers. You are just one. But does not give a day they had five of them.

it seemed that the White nationalist grass roots movement has set up an affirmative action programme. I know about you guys, I'm glad to see by nationalist you're, getting diverse there. Finally, minority recruitment, they understand were more diverse country and the wise national Movement must speak for everyone of all races, yet that's all sarcasm for women. Media matters is listening, not clearly doesn't understand that the law, looks really ridiculous and ham. Fisted end quote budget, screams panic. This is not what a convert campaign is doing, and I wish to point out that the point lead in that Fox NEWS, but it looks like an outlying ex. If there was an internal by lieutenant gourd, given it hurl campaign had young cannot buy for patent ravines outfit had a pull out that has up I free and washed to postpone just came out this morning, like all of us by one so best case scenario for Democrats Terminology, is hanging about skin? Of his teeth

Ah, a worst case scenario now is young, could gonna win their Bianca's gonna win comfortably and that most people, including up then Tribune, a left of centre guy, who I respect a bunch even further agree with America's assessment of Virginia politics pretty good and he has just been kicking. The budget the state of Virginia Democrats for whoever organise this. You know stunt of problems like the Charlottesville Yahoos. He just thinks it looks dumb and desperate and reinforced If of Democrats in disarray and it just now, it's now not yet. I now think our global up another mildly surprised agog to designate. I got. The conventional wisdom has shifted in that direction, although I still hooligans can be close, but now I'm not shocked by a young converting by a comfortable margin. What's a four point, something like that and done. I think will justifiably set off a superpower

really of your republic in the worst case scenario. Is the Democrats see this understand? It learn it, and their minds? They all my god. We can't you backing like this. We're going to end up losing everything in the mid term and actually learn from the West Bank. What are the odds of democrats doing that site and before I move on to felt that a number on it for me, but a percentage giant where you out with Virginia race, now. I'm gonna guess on election night it'll be something like fifty one, forty eight in favour Duncan an how confident iron that give me percentage on that night silver may Jim Sixty sixty five percent. I see you really have moved her. There alright, well Phil. I want to know where you are, but I'm going to frame the question slightly differently than Pepsi in the question I was Jim. Is it possible that we are seeing a false.

Hope develop based on an outlier Paul and some erratic behaviour from term call. If who is not a good candid, I mean I think, it's possible. I think that the if it Isn t my colleague when I'd be dead. So I will say that the polls show clear momentum toward young can even the ones that showed Mcculloch up by one, because most poles were having with color more up by fire. Before and now even the Poles were they give an edge to Macao, as it is really one point, so I think that the fact ball is probably an outlier. However, on the thing that would give me pause is there The early voting has been going on for a long time in Virginia.

and so the question is which we don't know is how much color how many votes my car was able to bank when he was leading poles by five points and the how good is young, kids early boat operation? We don't really know that. So Basically, I think that then the momentum. There is good reason to believe that yeah, can wins the Visa Election day vote. But my question is what is happening with the early and so that to me- it's really a black box.

It's not! There is no way that you could look at poles and I'm really have a sense of where the races based on that, because, since early voting happens over a course of several weeks when the raised changes, it's difficult to. You know, because somebody that, in a vote it a month ago, it is acting on different information at one of the reasons why I'm a big sceptic on early boat, but regardless, I think that the big wildcard him at rates, I think, when we worked at the early, both from an if it looks like young kids doing decent way. I think that he's probably gonna where, but that that what I am questioning as their only but what do you think,

Terry Mccall Ifs behaviour seems to me that he, if he loses, will have blown the selection, Outsider, I'm I'm not a Virginian. Obviously, I'm a concern. but if sir, I'm not indifferent to the rice, but he seems to have inflicted an awful lot of wounds on himself and continues to do so. The reason this is leaving us by the spending bill that we just discussed. If younkin does, when people are going to draw dramatic conclusions from it, they're going to draw conclusions about where we are at the country they're going to draw conclusions about how Republicans can win post trump or at least in the Trump interregnum begun to draw conclusions about education policy and critical race theory and parental info

and felt it. Do you think that this is ultimately about those issues, or do you think this is ultimately about the candidates? I think it's a little bit of both. However, I think that he so part of it is tear him alive. He was a very narrow race in twenty thirteen against can't huge, an airway who is much more polarizing been young again, and so it to me sourdough, even man he was in the thoroughly and natural politician he's. He was a cat political operative turned politician, so all along he was sort of not unnatural, smooth operator. He ease sort of clear like political, have turned our attention

So that certainly one issue, but I think at the same time it's hard not to draw certain conclusions just paste. On how over well many lay on a democratic Virginia S proven in how what a safe place. It's proven for he Republic, the Democrats, staggered and it's been really hard to put any Republican to instinct wide, and so this to me also would be an important suggestion that maybe the suburbs are quite as losses. We said, Virginia S, gotten blower since my college. Lastly, three by his since in the elections since then, you had Donald Trump.

Israel and he was, I crept, an eye for any carried the candidate. Who is a republican trying to win over suburban voters. and if young can wins it, because he was able to make headway among these voters, and I make that the Democrats Jack to raise could turn out their Trump Europe victories could turn out to be a mirage. They basically their victories and in twenty eight ten and their much narrower than expected. Deathrays in twenty twenty were attributable to the suburbs, turning against against trot, but it is in this

case your young again does decently well in the suburbs and there's some, the poles are showing him doing quite competitively among hispanics gaining at these ensure black voters. To me that suggests that a lot of these sort of that Democrat thought that they were sort of speaking the football thinking that they want the culture war and it really there's a backlash against that, and I wrote a column this week about what I described as the revenge of the parents and in twenty twenty eight. The the teachers unions asserted themselves, they shut down school. There were caught and open. My trashing parents and sang apparent just wanted their babysitters back, so they could smoke part in talking about children as if their vectors of disease a rabbit,

students and then, on top of that, you're dealing with this debate over curriculum, c r t over explicit materials and their Mccullough comes up and says we don't want parents telling tools what they should teach, which is clearly what democrat Believe I mean there is appalled that I wrote about that showed overwhelmingly democratic, agreed that school board should have more say their parents. but that clearly not what a lot of people believe women and as a result, consequences the pandemic. A lot of parents were forced to get more involved with their children's education than ever before they had it supplement their education. They became more aware of the curriculum and they want more of a say, and I think that this may sorted give a lot of pause to Democrats on these cultural or issues.

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the economy, inflation and so on. You, you live in Virginia regale us with your attic data the attic beyond the most interesting. Annex data that I have is the same. I've had for several weeks now, which is that I wouldn't Fairfax guiding. This is normal, junior. This is, I think, I'm pretty sure back and twenty sixteen primary it would be a one. This is not done from country by them. I understand that the right after those who know Turkey towards carrying guys left the bus that was for this, young campaign to guys of red has just been. Just a small again yelling. This is my country B. T believe the odds that twice right there. So absurdly videos, you didn't see any trump science in my neighborhood for a very few for the last year for five years And now you see a whole bunch of young concerns, you might the less besides four years ago.

He certainly saw a lot of Hilary signs, so this is a heavily democratic one, but with more was a doll. Tromp was not the kind of republican that you no good Northern Virginia suburban dad's, who just want lower taxes, just want to schools to work here, They're not into this is cultural war stuff I got much at this year, but then to lend young can, with his you know, least Besson commercials talking. Would you like dogs- and you know, biographical ads and soft, focused happy stuff about his tb. Aids are not hard edge, local towards applying stretched imagination that slavery well and Sal. You can sound a little more. My girlfriend. I so you honestly answer as if your republican you gonna, have to run back to Bob Mcdonald he went to liberty, universities? Could you know play down in big it emphasizes cultural conservatives but it is also stated: Tourney generously could promote law and order. Type staff and who's is running business. I'm gonna help cut taxes and attract more businesses up here in the region.

That stuff works like this is diverse kind of states. Are you to be able to have a kind of this different identity that you emphasise in different parts of the state, and so far young can spend better at that, then you might have expected to some of this is about Canada, It is very drinking that demean terminology. As a former governor running for this in Virginia, we have is weird thing where you can't run for a second term, but you're allowed to run for non consecutive terms. Most Virginia governors. Optical. The Democrats decide you know what I'm gonna one percent as with Denmark One or did that's what you came did, but do you know is eight years ago. Magala was right who was run, gets canker generally. This was during the, happy Little electric car company he was doing- that was a visa rio. Cash for visa scam and Ella goes almost a third of all of managed to hang on now. Some of that might be unkind. Finally, some of them. I have just been that dynamics of that cycle, usually in the party that wins the White House.

your later, they lose the governors mentioned in Virginia happened with, motion. Mark Warner happened away, Oh bomber and Bob Macdonell you now usually by that point, you're you're grass roots that the winning parties gretzky complacent them not some We debated the presidential elections just a year ago. They must not think about politics, whereas the apple in party? Were you believe that, as a b the White House is doing, can you believe this group have been they get all fired up and is definitely a dynamic like that at work here I have also I just underline read everything will find. You said that the elite that basically, It is a really bad time for school words to be bitchy to your parents after they effectively took a year off. beer and Virginia you saw the private. Opening a heck of a lot faster, and you saw the US states schools, other states opening up a heck of a lot faster.

Did. I do I'll insert my usual jokes about how here and fairfax counting every week in a closer schools of a Dupont gets too loud reminded you. Like you talk about snowflake culture, we have an actual snowflake culture, they were afraid of snowflakes, which is what make though at school. Close goals with further warning for parents and make them scramble to figure out how to continue their kids and stuff like that, and I think this is built year by year, and so the idea of Oda. You don't have a right to objective critical race, Terrier you'd ever right, subject to these books and school in elementary school libraries that are downright pornographic Yes, we do this, just as unbelief many school boys just attract unbelievable. Smog, arrogant insufferable, You know, I know better than you jerks, but that this is just became a critic. the critical mass at a time. Everybody's frazzled because of all the challenges to their life. The pandemic. That last couple yourself. This array

a bad time to be in public office and just be a jerk, and you know this is, I would say it is all that different from the tea party movement. I dont think this needs to the FBI, America, Ireland, to call out the cops netteke local I can handle this. Just fine say: look. I think this is partially national, impartial. It is the turn of olive. As you mentioned, you know he was a fundraiser for Bill Clinton. Nobody ever looked at bill at terminology set up this guy's a great leader. This guy is exactly what we need to guide us hard times and also there's like one lonely, another kind of like factors. My throwing here is that, if terminal If it's not a running on his, either. Really you have your hearing about Clinton he's running on us when it was governor before, but it up right ran for office and didn't wind, JANET Reno ran for office and didn't win Hillary Clinton obviously did not have her ambitions fulfilled Clinton brand name is long since collected dust and forgotten, and nobody really cares about anymore. So I kind of feel like

The college is dislike. and on a limb that still trying to move or something like that that he basically a somebody's long past his prime. It's not worth it democratic party. He gets a lot of money in your name. Recognition new stopped a bunch of other, mostly african American Cooper, it offers in the democratic primary this year, but that they dont that's it. but your anecdotal things I didn't as many turnip, all of signs, as I usually see for a democrat- and I think it's a most Democrats run here- are tired and can bring themselves to feel that motivated to go out, knock on doors and tell everybody how great technical offers desire that Jesse smaller had picked up all the signs, and so last question for you, Jim, about Virginia you touched on, is a little bit in that answer. The effect that from Pat on the state, but

if Virginia, is not ass democratic as we thought that The something interesting about american politics, as men yeah, and I think that you know that excited Virginia. Lookin, who looked at basically every election result in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen and twenty nine so because her on an odd cycle, we have argued in eternal races, muscle restate my Slater races in the first year after presidential election, and we have a bunch of other state legislative races in the year, but or a presidential election, and it eighteen, we only have our vessel races, but he bears this out. You'll, be every single one of those state legislative state, Senate House, delegates congressional districts if trouble in the district, the Republican One if trumped did not win the district. The Democrats

by that measurement. Candidate quality did not matter at all that that, basically, that every election in Virginia and twenty sixteen twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen and oversee twenty twenty all five of those years for five consecutive years, where a referendum and rob that's all democratic. To do that there are enough places in Virginia and job losses day twice, and neither was it by ten points. Last time let fifty five forty five summit in a new neighbourhood there's a if you running on Tromp, was good not for Democrats and now maybe order point were, doesn't neighbouring awhile there's no this year. This and a music that baby, you know down trembled and crashed through the wall like leg man- and you know it. himself into the race, in terms of all of which desperately love that Joe Biden would desperately love that, but so far it's not like you know, trumps gonna, hop on a plane and end up there and the Africa term of office must have spent tens of millions try.

to insist that Glenn Young we get the the mailers? And you know all the mailers argue now they are Glenn young It is Donald Trump best friend. You know this is ridiculous. Implausible effort. here, and I think it a thing in the end. If you you ve got Duncan, isn't Donald Trump, then tarried, because it doesnt have that much to say if that doesn't with tying a republic into trumped doesnt work. Well, that's gonna, throw out a lot of democratic democratic campaign messages from twenty twenty midterm cycle. Well, I imagine we will have one more editors bought gas before next week's election, in which we will give a final mousies, I have to say, not to be Debbie down, but I still think we call this a squeak it out. I think it's going to be close. I think the fact that is going to be closed. Is after the shouting is ever going to be well reflected upon, but I just can't see it.

I don't know if that's a jet pessimism- I don't If that's that, I can't imagine young can winning because three weeks ago I thought it was impossible, but I just have a sense that helps the early votes will overcome the late search, and on that all Tom no note we will move to our light items. Jim guarantee. What have you been up to well less up what I ve been up to then the degree to which I looking forward to the weekend, probably by the time you're listening to this you're weekend, will have started twenty twenty whisper the event as a year because handling was on a Saturday and a force. Clearly, if you like, but some folks when attribute reading, it was not really fully conducive to enjoying yourself, and I guess it made it easy if your howling costume, let him asked, but this It's on a Sunday lots of people having parties night before he got retreating on Sundays. Looking for

this week, I can be a lot of fun, hoping the weather holds up. I think we all could use a good for Time enjoy yourselves and I'm glad hoping that we get this year. Then it's like another. What five six years before that happens again, it's annoying because the daggers on at four o clock applying in Seattle. I have promised my children that I will take them trick or treating at five o clock, so I won't get towards the jagged lose which is highlighted my we that's that's what it's we urge you to give your look forward to what are we seeing with my tape? Currently, I've got the world. Understand your Garcia, honest each fell. What have you been up to now? I am also looking forward to lead. Awake in my area even know. Everything's outdoors, There is still a reluctance to go oh all out for a whole week last year, but this year a drive around and all the decorations rob. I mean if you

a home depot they're just getting like so much more elaborate than when I was a kid. The decorations, like you know, fifteen foot skeletons in my ten foot. Grim refers in all these others craziness and I'm gonna dress up, as I had one of those inflatable t Rex costumes, which are kind of, I feel like a great innovation in costume desire and because you don't need, like the giant heavy sweaty fast pyramids, basically just a very then material, and it just gets big by having a fan that constantly blows it up and inflated.

the two year like walking around and alone and because of all the fan it just protocols you're. So it's not like a typical sweaty. How will we in mass, so I'm looking forward to it- are hollow women in an even I see the CDC direct their gave us permission to treat this year, Sir, I'm looking forward to my free pass from La Rochelle once gave to us to be able to celebrate alright, I too am looking forward to Halloween, but more than Halloween, I'm looking forward to a great North Florida tradition tomorrow, and that is the Florida Georgia game which is held in Jacksonville. They call it. The world's largest cocktail party and of course, have plans to indulge and imbibe and unfortunately, given how good Georgia

this year, whom I certainly watch Florida list but Jim I'm looking to watching Florida loose that one too. It is a weekly ritual now in my life to watch at least one of my football teams lose badly and I suspect, that's what's going to happen to mark, do not Tom Atto cap in hand that I said that, because it will ruin our annual tradition of trash stroking each other on twitter Before we go. We have little time for our editors picks Jim. I think you already telegraphed your editors pick I have a if I wanted to brought it out. I could say our coverage of the infrastructure bill would seem to be changing every five minutes or that the bill back better bill is still terrific. I ability to furred hopefully to cover both, film into your. Why by the social agenda, may prove rat less resilient Obamacare

now a lot of great cheer and optimism on our pages about this. But I think this was a good point and worthwhile and worth deciding And Michael by the authorities, assessment and embarrassment provided noticing how much the president s is a begging law Democrats to pass this bill before he left to Europe was really kind of an unconvincing. the demonstration of his limited political powers gonna do for never just two peace. Is that I think over worth reading for those who feel down about this runaway spending and fell what's yours mine is David. Her sunny has one America's the most tolerant place on earth and it's actually an excerpt from his book, which is euro trash. Why America must reject the failed ideas about dying continent,

what I like about this exercise, which will give you a yours tiers of the book. Is it it sort of disrupt this man that somehow America and founding and everything about America's uniquely racist and horrible ends. You know compared to the rest of the world and he actually goes in how in Europe there incredibly racist intolerant and their rife with research and Anti Semitism racism America's actually the most tolerant place on earth. So read. The observed by the book agreed my editors pic is an editorial democrats. Spending monstrosity, I dont think any of our listeners will be under the impression

that I am a fan of this bill, but I like the way that this editorial went through, why it is such a mistake, not just because we don't have any money left, although we don't, but because the specifics of the Bell also, a mistake and I'm still hoping more of them will be pared down, but we will say- and with that, all that is left is for me to say thank you to fell and thanks. to jim- and thank you too, Sarah sitting will you come here, but is so veiling us as we speak, and thank you to you and to remind you that we are the editors and we will see you next week