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Tuesday night when it was clear that young can. I got gotten over the top and we discussed some of them but there's been much more argument. The last few gaze and you you have A lot of denial on the left, lot of people arguing well, he is Racist Dog whistle campaign at Yoke and was running cause. There's no such thing. It's your tea in the Virginia schools, so eternal making this up, and on the other hand you have some extraordinary solve searching. Theirs is near Times editorial unsigned official statement by the your times yesterday, today, saying Democrats can't afford the whistle passed a graveyard here. This is five alarm fire at their fate and they need to realize eyes the New York Times they need realise at the party had gotten out of touch and gone too far left on a host of things, including the

a dime reconciliation bill which will talk more about enough. The next saying that already make a bit, why take it ready, extraordinarily in that most people I met people were bracing for young into when I mean whole seems to be heading in that direction. Many of us were being cautious, speak as the recent democratic turn in Virginia by your ultimately, all the signs were there towards young can, however, if you combine it with what happened in Jersey, which was on fuel, this rate are in our own there and with life planet. It sort of told people pay attention to the race a week before noted it was closing, and but that was incredibly quote close. It's just that New Jersey had has allotment is blue, were more deep, blue them than Virginia

but there is still a massive swaying from last year to this year and in New Jersey, and even you the incredible story of of on the sand Senate President, the strong and powerful Steve's twinning issue in twenty seventeen, his opponent spent against the trader it's taken out and this year a truck driver who spent, but by some accounts, thank God hundred twenty three dollars on his campaign. guy named Edward there? He ended up when I M taking out the sort of Lyon of the Jersey Senate That suggest something different so that the people came up in this. You don't say

voting for the reliable, the Democrat just voted for a public debt and that the big danger for the Democrats is that there is always a question mark as Democrats made game, is well how much of it is due to the the changing demagogue, graphics or a shift in the country, and how much was it that you know there was trouble and the trunk was really unpopular. and what we saw were in. In the results this week was that It seems like it much more, the latter that basically them fats for a number of years benefited from it. suburban? That backlash against Donald Trump and that once he was and then They determine that they had a mandate to large for laughed, but it turns out that the stupid

Equally in Virginia, the state had moved quite as far left as they assume it still more purple, then deep, dark blue and a tab, and so what was particularly interesting as you request, Jim? Was there were kind of two questions after the from You know, or at least the intermission from tromp we can maybe get more on that later, but basically during this period. The two questions were: one did work, Democrats, sort of as some people say where they renting suburban voters or buying them with this along shifted. The suburbs also were reply. begins. You know gains in huge, more gems in rural areas are tied to tramp or could that sort of

Trump Coalition, would they turn out without tromp around, and the answer to both questions were negative for them, the crowd it looked more and more like the suburban voter vote shift that we saw during the trunk Deirdre was against Trump yeah can actually wants to bourbon voters, and not only that add he didn't do it. Sacrificing the rural, so called trunk voters. The so called trunk voters voted more with young can then they did for trot said this was a huge shift across the board and It bodes very poorly for Democrats, remember even with Trump on about last year day, you know, loss

it's in the house, they ended up with a fifty fifty Senate, and then they took that as a signal to just go full speed, ad as if your Bernie Sanders had won the election. The landslide and I think that combined with all of these. other issues. You know that the covered lockdown school closures, the Sea Rte stuff, you know- As I had written a number of times this, closures were really that the seeds of the whole see our teeth and why that resonated so much were planted with fiscal closures. Because I'm old, shamelessly to things half of one parents became by necessity, much more involved in their children's curriculum, much more Aware of their children's curriculum and second directly. They learned distraught,

everyone in school administration, teachers, unionized teachers, school boards and in US superintendence of schools, politics, and so when it came to them saying see art he isn't taught in schools, suddenly pay parents are gonna to say what am. I gonna believe this person, that's just been lying to me for a year and a half these people who leaped to the one of the line in the in a head of cancer patients to get back sedated only to decide not to show up to work because they didn't want to teach my kids these the thief Then I'm gonna go on their word. And so I think you it was. It was becoming

son of a lot of things, but particularly when, coupled with Jersey, this was in a one off thing. This was clearly people wanted to people, don't like bad and they don't like what Democrats through doing, and they wanted to tell them to stop work. They do and change course yourself, Michael clear. This is a national wave right. You dont have a truck driver from a truck driver, taking up by then State Senate, New Jersey, lesser there's something happening all over the place, Evan. It also raises weather, is it court, races and Sylvania or local races, and long Island, New Jersey and and Virginia, but that, but in Virginia something were to settle. Little look from Phil, I think, is pretty blue state now, and I dont think that you can

necessary were pulled it out was he ran such a brilliant campaign, but that the key take away here for a Publicans is as film it is being able to turn out rural small. Town, Trot voters in greater numbers in greater numbers than Donald Trump did without Donald Trump being on the ballot in Virginia, without doubt trumped showing up in Virginia without doubt tramping factor Virginia, except for Terry Mccall's. Forlorn obsession with Trump and some people are, you, but it may be that help turn out from first. Maybe did. I doubt those you're not wearing factor. At the same time you avoid downside trump, add which was repelling. The suburb said that made his the victory very, very narrow, you know any got their barely twenty. Sixteen he didn't get there and twenty twenty and it was because his He couldn't work both enter this equation. The great promise of a kind

Glenn Yarkand did is that it shows well, maybe Republicans can maybe they can turn out. Those does trump voters in droves. At the same time, take the edge off the democratic advantage in the suburbs, her or perhaps when, overall, among suburban voters way, Yunker did you. I think I think what you're seeing in rule is basically the southern rising of the rest of the country. Right where, like were dark, effectively get zero votes among were awaits. As they do in the south. Currently, now that's creeping up, and It's important for Republicans if they want to keep capitalizing on that to make constant contact with voters. Can some of them were noble to be low, propensity, voters, distant frame, Pino Disenchanted, voters, but the system, but these are voters that came out and gave like susan-

Collins, a huge win in last year's Senate election. These people, I mean, through You know maybe would vote for Paul a page. You know someone had was little crust year, then an establishment republican, but the vote for Susan Collins, too on the ballot with an after her name business, why the key take western twice extent. Some smart impress is that They thought with a Obama with Obama's color, the so called, descended that here they come, kicked away the rural areas and in that was, it they didn't realise there is. There is much further losses it still suffer. In the royal S nest, what happened and twenty succeed now we're seeing there's even they can go down further in those places and pay the price so it's important fur republicans to two key with those voters. It's probably also time for what

begins. To rethink hurdles any hurdles to voting. You know that they might wanna put towards in front of low. propensity voters, as it might be that Republicans how as many are more of them than Democrats do The great like this about turn out and Virginia there. It was a massive turn out and it helped Republicans I wonder you. No one thought I had was looking at the results where you had physically a twelve point swing in Virginia and fifteen. point swing in New Jersey that no one saw coming is what, if you run the truck driver in Virginia like. I actually was the Carlyle group thing. The kind of corporate and thought about ambience, actually a net negative for Duncan, but just not enough of one. It's hard now read needs it is that's you know. I think we'd be even beyond a David shore level of analysis, but yeah

Henrietta very good discipline campaigning. I think he targeted his message really. Well, I think, we may be overstating the role of of c r t this and understanding the role of covert getting at it. But. I mean a lot of Virginia schools were closed for a whole year longer than schools were even in New York they had astonishing school closures. They had school mean changes during the closures so chosen administrators could get together fur virtue signalling politics, but they couldn't get together for TM before before a loud and was the epicenter four c r t fight perfect county was was candidate, the poster child for a suburban upscale district. Totally, they all its children an term. So you have

and what you're? Seeing now after the election, I think his democrats backing away from covered hysteria that in turn the according to the exit polls, The only issue said he went on where people whose top voting issue was covered with that just one in seven voters. Meanwhile, like other issues like the economy and education have a huge pandemic component to them right like we have supply chain issues, because of extraordinary covered measures, we had that the school closures because of covered so now at last hey you ve seen the democratic governor of Kansas come out against the federal Maxine mandate, Or through OSHA on employee, As with over a hundred employees.

and you ve seen my own governor Cathy Hopeful, any work announced. For the first time, an off ramp formats Children at school, saying kind, vaguely that once a majority of children, acts needed. She wasn't clear: amateur forty five to eleven year olds or a majority of five to eating year olds through a very different proposition, but maybe she wants the ambiguity so they re. There may be a serious back away from this because you know One of the most obvious rules in politics, especially in a closely divided nation like our own, is that you really better off tilting, towards the centre and towards independent voters and what they want and not forwards like your most, I'm here your basest base. Voters and Democrats have done that

and so we will see. I think, though, that almost in a trap there, any exact trap I thought Republicans would fall into. of being neither fish nor fowl because these results in New Jersey, New York, I mean they are going scare, a bunch of house members who are new House members from the Democrats in New Jersey, New York suburb, next Serbs and people, one on the promise to restore the full state Dayton local tax deduction, not necessarily the most progressive. They don't want to be associated with the weakest of the Woke parts, the party in many cases, and it's not clear whether good they're gonna get the full deduction not like that but you can see, is sharpening the conflict between the left and the moderate in the democratic party.

Damn Republican should press on it. Extremely hard in public. They should these wedges in further. Because there's limited time. You know there is a. There is a possibility that this is the worst. It's gonna get for Democrats that supply chain issues will begin to resolve themselves over the holidays, The restrictions are backed away from end the economy picks up again and there be no inflation disappears turns out to be temporary and then it so much environment for demagogues. It's it's possible that this is low ebb. So, while the kittens good divide and conquer as much as you can now, so fell as died. A little bit more into the republic invite over. They should also have trumpet, people saying look young young can work on cultural issues, I see our key

horrible Murray argued. This is actually a post liberal, the tree, because only post liberals can tell tell garment schools what'd what tell them what to teach them at schools. I think that that is there ridiculous argument, but that there is a respectable argument that young man, who was more certain battles that he might have been learning from the from the Trump borrowed from the Trump playbook. And there's a the other argument, and this is where I'm incline that yanking. Yes, he hit on C r t, which was very important, but is Michael's pointing out, educate was a much broader issue. It wasn't me see Archie Tiberius Hierarchy. Is it energizes conservatives and also has some some cross partisan appeal but there's a bunch of issues that that Young can help from school safety to active excellence and standards and some these a leap, schools, public schools in

Virginia, and then it was all about parental involvement at the end of the day and as you pointed out, one reason that Mccall made his original gas and didn't realize it was a gas until much too late was. Could it have been saying something basically Democrats believe- and this is the point, those parental involvement and what schools teach and how their conducted a wedge issue, because Republicans and indifference I'd, say: yes, press should be more involved in. because I know they should be less involved so you're gonna need really effective. Use of that and then also ran a really kind of practical lunch bucket cost living style economic campaign that successful republican Canada and given a trail races, have in Virginia time immemorial. He wanted to spend the grocery tax and wanted suspended, increase and the gas tax, and, I think, increase the standard deduction

Virginia and another. That is anything that you need to be trompe or not. Advocate yeah I think so. I think that on the question, the argument that sort of trumped showed the way. I think that there are two this there. You can kind of divide that into two shoes which is one? You could maybe argue that your tromp kind of showed how you could large eyes? A lot of these road voters in- and you know, as you were saying, you don't bring them out even more than they had been prior to tramp. I'm sorry, a kind of showed that this sort of coalition exists. Then you could say that the certain attitude of triumph, the sort of not trying to be an apologetic republic in being willing to to lean into the Cultural war staff and fight to win the cultural war, as opposed to.

Moreover, Romney type who had run away from those types of issues I you could are you that currently Trump kind of Europe showed the path and but that also is a distinct question from what's best for Republicans going forward, and that is right. Whatever argument you can make for what Trump did in the past or how he may have changed, party positively by bringing in certain voters whatever case you'd, make from that perspective, you have to grapple with the fact that, in the closing wasted, a campaign republicans in every probably did speak too, would basically said that the UN can looks like he's poised to win this. He pretty much has

this in hand is doing what it needs to do. But there is always that well that that sort of caviar of or what, if trunk, just shows up at the last minute and terrible color with desperate for this to happen, I'm Joe Biden, gave a speech in the Euro will lead up before the election. That was essentially designed to try to beat tromp into two coming in and went from put out a statement. mentioning you know to people in our elected us, you soon, the it with other public goods that were freaking out and the Democrats were were champion it the better to be able to have that happen and my color actually want and said, the Trump visited, even though he never did not having threatening He was just so desperate for trumpeter to show up and start talking

bout, the stolen election and ballot boxes and audits and stuff for two hours instead of making about young talent and term followers and So I mean that kind of should tell you what you know what's good for the party going forward, and I pointed out in a calm. I wrote this week that really I think it underscores the importance of a real conservative running against tramp in twenty twenty four assuming Trump bronze. I think that you know he might not run, but its he's acting like a candidate he's doing things that people thinking a running for president usually do I'm sorry,

if to assume by default that he's gonna run and he's not gonna lose if it, sir, you know one of these John case it John Huntsmen type campaigns of Adam Kinsmen girl runs just the standard antitrust campaign. that's not gonna win it. You basically have to have a candidate, and who is your respectful enough to trump voters entered to trumps role within the party without buying into the the twenty twenty seven? but with having us a very solid unimpeachable, conservative record and As I know, my he's like a lot people might be afraid to challenge strong, because you know if you're let's say your younger conservative with the future, you might think why would I go into the buzz off Tromp Lou

and then just scared, you know tarnished as the sort of Jeff sessions type figure. This were like a jack flake just sort of this antitrust figure. They can. Ever have a future in the party at all then just wait four years for the Trump thing to pass, and then I'm still young enough to run. I think the problem with that is that you have to kind of strike when the iron pot and that presidential politics tends to reward. Boldness and two thousand aid, a lot of people are saying

Obama shouldn't get challenge. Hillary Clinton they'll get eaten alive by the the Clinton machine. There was even imagery of it being held Zilla versus Obama, and she was just going to stomp on him and his whole career would be over if he had taken that advice. Obviously history would have been different. He never would have been elected president if he just sort of said he'd wait his turn and running. You know eight ten years later, so for me, I think that it shows that the stakes are too high. I mean look at what Democrats right now trying to do and ran through with a fifty fifty Senate if they just had a few more Senate seeds and they got

regional, more seats in the house, you basically be working at them. They blow up the filibuster, they packed the courts, they pass just trillions, trillions of dollars of all sorts of social welfare programmes, green new deal stuff. It would be non stop and that that's what they would try to do if they got that much power, and I think that this state, you're too high for Republicans just sort of sit back and set, especially after Virginia and your seeing a different path that somebody could do better than tramp in the rural areas and still improve upon his margins in the suburbs and If you see that you're looking at that, how could you turned twenty twenty four say you know, we're just gonna, give the nomination to trap and led him. in the year talking about the right,

election of twenty Twond instead of White bided that failure and what your Republicans would do better. so exquisitely Eu Envy D, given the results Tuesday night guess at the House Republican pick up next year. will be more than ten seats more than twenty, more than thirty more than forty, more than fifty more than thirty. Yet more than thirty, I think it's gonna be a strong election, but I do think the, rural environment will be better for Democrats Chestnut for them to hold on. I think the economy will look better. I think their supply chains will be over, inflation will be down, damn will be almost a year away from the Afghanistan

withdrawal. So if you project from out here, I expect a strong but not like a ninety. Ninety four level result four republic at this, and I think that afghan withdrawal by latest can't be underestimated. I mean that's what really I am fine with sliding downward, but that that's what really pulled the plug out of that the drain and got him down to forty two percent and some record, I think it's also why they did it early Navy, yeah, so fine you number yeah I'd say. Maybe over thirty I mean I mean on the reason. I say that is that the house, is much more closely like you know, I don't need. You know it's not like a ninety four or in two thousand ten, where democratic, mass of majorities

said that they were able to win as much low hanging fruit, because, right now you know it's to twenty two twelve. So it's it's already close enough. I mean after twenty, though twenty fourteen wave Republicans ended up with two hundred forty I see it so if they want around thirty, that would put them roughly in the same power as they had then, and I think that that is sort of plausible. I dont think over fifty realistic, given how lead divided. The tigris is right. Now, I'm also dinner. I make you knows more than thirty. I think if you, if you help me, Action today would be around fifty seed pick up, but

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creation, though, just setting out that the terms of debate, which is not the same as passing the bill, but they hope at least be, progress, and this goes to the arrival interpretation of Virginia we're just talking about various ways of looking at it. Nancy Lucy and Joe Biden look at it. Well, You know why Clarion call for down, because we didn't passing of such a bill, we didn't, has been back better. the voters of America August hungry for this kind of change Transformational change. We should give it to him before to this day, but hey will go to the Friday after the election year. Even Israel. According the situation, keeps changing like what we ve seen reports in. While we ve been talking bat. There is a plan to bring the infrastructure bill to about the house than their aggressive, of carcass met

and said no. It's like our six colleagues, we for there. video score a mad. we're not ready to vote for infrastructure before build back better, so it still the same thing where the progressive, fundamentally dont, trust that is a vote for the infrastructure bill that build back better will come to the floor. Meanwhile bill back, better keeps getting rebuilt at this point: action: think it's being built along the new cycle, like I literally think. the reason behind trillion dollar salt deduct. restoration was leaked last week was to get that muse out forward Virginia first for the suburban boats as people in New Jersey, New York, were seeing where these elections going so I'm I'm

Increasingly wonder wondering if I've got I can. Fourth have been, I think, the most sceptical about their ability to pass them, but I still thought unbalanced. They would pass both of these, but I my feet are starting to shake even though there, sometimes saying they are almost minutes are hours away from passing. Both I The logic of passing both has gotten harder to justify and I think there are more moderate in the Senate. Even that, don't necessarily wanted defend this. And as details come out there not you're, not exactly like super popular the day care plan. We know that the plans for funding child care can today me baby. Likely said that they weren't gonna fund you weren't gonna get childcare funding if you were

in care in the home. So you can't access those dollars for helping in Antwerp? Graham other or on an uncle to come in and take care of your children at home and you use them for age, care center, that is in a house of worship which is like half of childcare centres. A few right This is child care policy is cultural or be able exactly, I mean and listen, and this so, actually a broader issue that I think she things is actually kind of scary, which is that, Liberals and conservatives recently see themselves as not even Sharing the same institutions. and so as they attain power, they Jesse destroy those. institutions, because that's what would happen If you give a massive federal programmes on child care, but deny it to. You now say that

the presbyterian church in my town, which hosted a day care that was totally non sectarian. You basically force that place out of business or to find another place in your also forcing in ethos on child care right needs its it's an attempt, to extend the dewy, neutrality of public schools down to a two year olds. so I dont know I dont know that are going to get it done actually, because there, What you saw in the last with these elect the results this week was theirs. Pressure on the Democratic Party, and you know when they announced save II. The salt restoration Bernie Sanders flipped out, but that's all restoration is necessary for these endangered me

New Jersey, California, and you know, and other dammit That's across the country, that's a necessary part of the bill. A lot of people ran on that and got elect one there primaries on that issue, but it might be too big a pill to swallow for progressives who want funding for other programmes. I'm starting to think this ship is crashing might be we don't know. What what's gonna happen for before people here, there's safest. Bat always is, is that these votes are can happen and there are gonna, get put off, but on the sheer politics of it fill I've been looted point recently on the obstruction bill. It's really good, but I also don't think people particular care the infrastructure bill, one or the other main political factor. That would be to give Biden a victory

when is basically had none for a very long time, if not the entirety of us, his presidency so far with significant they drive. and then go back better than that. crowds seen other actually look at some of this. Boiling data have to be concerned. Emerson, polar came out today that more people think that go back. Are we bad for them, then good for them? There is another point I think like a week or so ago had the same risk, salt and that this child care policy people tenant really focus on it. It's not gonna be good for them. Maybe salt is is popular and the promise was part you are part of the bill, for actually people would be affected by it, but they there just insistent that they need a double down and get it done. and even if they get it done its main, work out for them the way they think yeah I mean, I think that,

Clearly, the evasive convince themselves that the the reason why they lost in Virginia was that they did in pass that's better and the infrastructure bills. This was talking point that was pushed by progressive right off the bat. Nea was Tita, but even before the election in the press Crimination. Then you heard it if you were watching CNN Am Msnbc coverage of Virginia and in its first year be job in echoed it and then it just became adopted. By everyone at the question- is- are almost everyone. The question is when you are dealing with a fifty fifty Senate and not a threefold, you know to spare in the house You have to get everyone on board, but this idea and the room you know a few rumbling nervous

nerves among Moderates mansion mountain. He mentioned that he said that we are living in a centre right nation, so that clearly doesn't sound like somebody who's eager to vote for this, I think that in terms of the popularity they're not selling this at all. I mean there is an ABC Paul. They came out over the weekend it showed what it thirty two percent said that the bill would hurt them compared to twenty five percent, who thought that it would help them and Eighteen percent said it would make no difference so essentially by two to one people say their hurt. Them are made no difference compared to people. The tat would help them and This is before really a lot of the mess said Jane has gone out on the bill and against the bell.

The democrat sale will we haven't message on the bill and, to be honest, I think that one thing that helped our side, which wants to stop this train wreck, is bad. basically, it might have made sense if they started from the rear, like even Obamacare, which I followed intimately Who is all year was fan sang like we have to get down health care costs. We have to make health care more affordable. We have to do this now and Obviously, there are plenty of disasters along the way, but the whole debate was about. We have to change our healthcare system because it's not working had they picked. like one priority and just said we're gonna do childcare and that's all they talked about is the costumes. care and that they basically in every new story, it said the child Democrats Childcare Bill right.

You might have seen like at least there was some coherence thing, but in this case always. reporting on the three point: five trillion dollar bill That's all people, basically, no it as to the extent that they're, following this at all, is that Democrats are eager to spend trillions of dollars on a bunch of stuff. I compared with the other day to Essentially a state of the union speech in legislative for your basically just taking all of these bullet points and sang, let's just throw Rowena mix them in a cocktail and toss them in a bill, and so a kind of cuts both ways if they have something to show. for it because they have something to show for it, then we're not firing in a moving target. One once frustration that I've had it as it's being somebody who likes to dig into the policy details of these bills.

is that there is no real bill right. What would policy deeds evils? Forgets legal right and in Obama care there were each each committee there were five relevant committees. There were holding hearings, there were others given out, will draft build the house past something and then before the Senate it passed and that's how opponents I myself were able to really dig in and argue against, a lot of it. Obviously it didn't talk, Democrats off the ledge, but had killed the public option. It really drove down the unpopularity, the law. But in this case I, like your basically the bill, is it gets constantly changing its like a wiki bill write. It Its constantly updated. You have a press release one day and then by the enemy their day, and I wrote extensively about the original three point: five trillion about proposal that it gets trim back. I wrote about that.

Now. Salt been, but in the end she wants it because he wants to throw in family leave and if you're a moderate Democrat in the house, you have to be out of your mind to try to vote for this before, knowing that what were mentioned, and yet I am places is setting them up tat to vote for it too. in a high speed and the date they could vote for what twice and not six words like in Obama care. If you voted for the House Bell, you would have had a vote for a bill that had a public option in it. If you in the Senate, if you waited for the Senate bill, you didn't have the book

public action right. So I'm sure a lot of those. You know, Democrats, House Democrat who lost in money ten wish that they could have light scene. It play out first before going that walking off that clear, and so I just think it's completely crazy and is it the difficulty that their facing is that not everyone has insisted or its consistent problems with it? Is that the problems that mansion and cinema have with that aren't the same problems, and sometimes there contradict,

problems. There are also different problems than their house. The the house moderate have and also depends on whether the House moderates are from high tax states like New York, New Jersey or from other states, and so there it there's a lot of these big problems and I think that at the end of the day, I still have PTSD from Obama CARE, and I always assume that at the eleven Our like Democrats will find a way to spend a lot of money and tat enrage taxes. It never get laid down that sort of in their dna but I would say that why, envy day I'm kind of get out part of my fate, we wouldn't be you know

maybe not a hundred percent convinced that it's gonna pass. I mean I've been telling people all you, they're just gonna past something I think that will know really next month, because. you know there are all these phony deadlines that they're trying to create, but if you look at when things pass o bombing care the put the year tat from TAT, it just seems like things dragon and that everyone wants to go for Christmas home and that ends up being the true deadline. And so I that is basically nothing happens. Nets D. You know baby and of the calendar year- and you doubt moving into twenty twenty two-

and let you see the number two thousand two hundred and twenty two and you're filling out your checks- and you know it's an election year and you're starting to think about your real act. I mean. Maybe then I too have I think the odds go down, but until we we get past Christmas, I'm just you know. I assume that the figure out some way to spend and I'd godly sum of money on you know a terrible up. You know. You know a mass of other legislative vehicle Envy acts a question to you based on you. sincerest possible political advice to Democrats. You tell them to among these options, options pass death, pass, build back, pass, Beth and they'll back pass. Neither My sins sincerely, they should pass both today and be done with it and

go home and start figuring out, what did I just vote for and. What parts of it can I run on, and how do I defend myself from the party I wish weren't in it? that's sincerely that the best option for them and I saw anybody is in the past both and passed both quickly camp. We already see, I think, issue. It is certain that the common question of the difference between what good for the Democratic Party verses, what's good for individual Democrats, I think that for individual,

democrats- it would probably like a bunch of mansion or a moderate Democrat I'd, probably prefer to say I helped killed this large much now, but I passed this death. You know the smaller infrastructure, building more defence about the you know an average person. But if your policy, your basically your whole, the whole reason that there are still people who He'll sticking around with this adsl, you know, leader, is from her reputation of being the person who can get bill. through and find the were added to beat this legislative genius witch hunt. say what is built on a time her and when she had forty votes to spare so

Think that if your policy, you need to pass both bells freer survival, if you're, a moderate Democrat, you probably won't just the infrastructure built up So I think they should terminal their own interests. They should pass both but a radically scale back door, so you can say they pass the build built back and actually succeeded, but you just do the saw just do your expanded child tax credit just do some some relatively a popular things and be done with it, and move on with that? Speaking of moving on it's time to hear from our second sponsor this episode made in where how's your favorite restaurant consistently makes such delicious food. The short answer access to the right kitchen tools with maidens, professional

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Campaign might have been up to what trumps loyalty is, will were zero. A sorry ten, I should say how lashes fraud perpetrated on american public security. Nine and a half, I should think extremely serious. I think. Republicans are stupid if they ever achieve the White House in Congress again and don't do major reform of the intelligence community and start clearing house, because these turned against them. in a way that you know If it were happening happening in Hungary, we would also like to call it, but because it happening in the belt way. We think this is totally normal. Come on anybody. What your comp, I feel, mpg com there could be a topic there. I mean her aside. This is because it happened in Hungary. Is it.

Seriously I mean this? Is we have found out that the the I urge the trump benefited from these russian connections in profited from russian disinformation, etc. Was itself part of the russian disinformation campaign, but also that The intelligence used to open up the warrants was basically entirely the product of Hurry Clinton's campaign, and other anti trump forces. that everyone involved based. We knew this and went ahead anyway, This is. This is legitimately lake third World style, behaviour with the security services or Bill moilers style behaviour with the security services the centuries and that foreign to America in some ways, but yeah

I am afraid that Republicans will fail to put people in prison just as they fail to put down lawyer in prison for spying on Goldwater mail client. Here again, I would say TAT. I mean this really is a major and type and of the institutions of Justice Department. Intelligence agencies and the media? Were you basically had the situation in which one campaign has misinformation that they used to at all through russian intermediaries into this spy? Who creates this dossier? That thing gets both the media and then use? Is you as a pretext to launch an investigation into the campaign of your rival candidate while your point,

is running the government and the government that you it previously served than a secretary of state? I just did it you could cruising. You could saddle penniless Lee you know. Did you know create this story that your report? It was the investigation to collude for the fine coverage and do exactly what they attacked Republicans for doing after are you twenty, which is to a road confidence in our democratic institutions, spread the eye, dear that, you know I'm basically the person who was there was a legitimate and was in installed, Russia in this massive plot. This massive concerned

say and then to try to undermine his administration. For several years through this invest allegations. That was all Started on a lie, but by the way it also how do we backfired in the sense that. Like you look at us now, you, like, oh that helps explained call Me- was so freaked out that they have done this to that camp, paying who's gonna lose that when he had the chance to hope up an investigation into the emails again the week of the election he felt he had to do it here, All of this place in so he has thus I'm gonna say, is relatively low compared to you guys, I'm nine right right up there. Maybe I'm a nine. I guess some allowance for good faith and competence, but otherwise this is a complete outrage. Anyone with any bs

detector, a common sense knew the whole Russia collusion thing that there is nothing to it from me, said. Even if there are things I shouldn't have done no proper, saying things about Putney shut out they should have had a meeting with the with its cut out from from Russia, but still there be the strong version. Other of collusion, obviously always nonsense in the dossier, which was obviously garbage. It should be is to anyone. specially anyone at the FBI, but instead Had this this thing dragon and create a special council investigation, which was commies intention, That's a royal, the country and now care to some extent the trap administration from the from the outset, so go John Durham, keep revealing the truth and telling people to the war who broke the law with that, let's hit a few other things for we go envy d or us.

oh jealous, you have much with the great jack far Jack is Zalm, a shot in the arm. Jack's are former publisher at an hour or end. He is the system of justice My arm and I've been talking with for a while about getting one sometime after he left Us- we finally did it today we enriches back your dark, but without which the air so like ice yak appreciate it. so you think it an uncontrollable. I think Jack is in trouble, but I noticed You go into a little, Berger joint was plastics. to Jack and hope for peace. for the Christmas Party and things press again said the clerk You are ruining the jets season and looking ahead to the next year flow good reason, but you're looking ahead

Yeah, well I you know it's always this time of the jet, the gypsies and where do you just start looking at Mark draft for the following year and trying to scout will lose the the top five in every position. Since we have a lot of needs, but today it has been given. as a jet them were eager. You know you're used to allotted heartbreak the last few years. We haven't been, and the playoffs further This'Ll be eleven states and that we want what will avoid the fire. and you know we had them Cinderella story last week where some We need MIKE. Why? Who was our third shrink? Quarterback was for,

to make an emergency starred Andy through for over four hundred yards he smash all these records for somebody's first start is a quarterback. is: is Jersey actually ended up in already in the Football Hall of Fame? For this crazy historic for form? and so finally, you have kind of one guide. Route for they had a national game. Last night called for further than MIKE White leads us down. Feel too tired, see psyche is picking up right where he left off a man. He gets injured, and so it was just sort of brutal disappointing worth. We got crushed defence didn't show up and so forth, but it's just you, being a jet them whenever there is. There is some reason for hope. You get disappointed. It probably

one reason why I am always so pessimistic in my political tat is that I'm always thinking like a gesture I was down Orlando Florida worthy National conservatism conference. The second edition of the National confiscated. First, one in Washington DC. They put on a great events to save our interesting people see a lot of friends there, and I agree with everything I hear from some of my friends, but it's it's always it was. ring and stimulating with that as time for picks. Anybody shepherd Charles see you'll be cook. Is a peace? No The call of didn't lose because Democrats failed spines. left wing agenda and just with Charlie's not really just this peace, it's basically Chow

has been no is founded on fire. Last couple of months is the kind of in immigrants love for me. can link, which is very special indistinct and his especial anger and mourning and protective jealousy of his option of America, and he sees the Democrats threatening it and because of that peace has been on fire for weeks, so follow Charlie, so climate. Your bet, my pack is Andrew Mccarthy's peace. What to make of terms latest indictment and several pieces that is written on the durum indictment we didn't have time to go into all the details of it, but Andy Mccarthy's been one of the indispensable writers on this story from the beginning,

Do you wanna somebody walk you through it. I'd suggest that peace and everything that is riding on this this unfolding story, so my pig is damage gardens, post mortem on the election, which is incredibly thorough. That's here is an incredible number of colorful charts. The way only Dan can can doom, but he'd studies stuff really closely and just brings out a lot of important. emu serve you care about what happened on a Tuesday and I'm sure our listeners. Do you really should read this peace so that for us in listening to a national park. Guessing you re broadcast retransmission account this game without express written permission of national. You magazine is strictly prohibited. This park s been produced by the comparable. Sarah who makes

sound better than we deserve, and speaking of sound I should mention. I know I sound pretty echo way because I happen to be recording from and almost empty big room this afternoon Phil? Thank you. Anybody thanks to no free lunch and made entries check both of them out and they specially to all of you Listening reactors will see you extra