The bidding on Daca is open and Trump says he'll find any deal that Congress can come up with Michael WAR. as the White House is in a perpetual crisis over trumps mental condition and the twenty fifth amendment becomes the left's latest bizarre anti tromp obsession we'll discuss all this and more on this week's addition, the editors. Mitch Lowry and on joint, is always by the right. Honourable Charles seed, w cook the notorious envy De Michael Brendan Dorothy and the effort asset. Right hand salami or listening to a national viewpoint, podcast quick public service announcement. If you're listening to us on national you dot com, we are delighted to have you It would be easier for you and better for us if you subscribe to us in your feed.

On Itunes tune in stature or Google play, and if you like what you hear here, please let me beg and urge you to please review us on Itunes. If you dont, like what you hear Please forget that I said anything now. I don't want to open up the curtain too much on the internal deliberations behind the content of the editors, podcast but right hand has been lobbying since last week's podcast to have a long needy discussion on the policy behind and around Dhaka. Sir, I hand over to you to geek it out thanks so much rich, so basic I want to lay out the broad contours of the issue if you're listening to this podcast, you are familiar with Dhaka. This is the defer action order issued by press don't Obama in

recognition that you know we were not going to get some larger legislated amnesty, so instead he offered deportation relief. I use he claimed prosecutors discretion to sheep, a large number of unauthorized immigrants from deportation. Now There is a lot of confusion around this issue, because people tend to inflate the Dhaka eligible immigrants from dreamers. we are talking about dreamers, you're, also talking about the children of unauthorized immigrants. Rather, people entered the country as an authorized immigrants as children, but the thing is that those are not truly exactly the same populations, if you're looking at the Dhaka eligible folks. This is a group of roughly eight hundred thousand. If you're looking at the people who might potentially be eligible for aid, remarked that could be as many as two to three million people. Yet the terms are often used interchangeably and their use interchangeably for reason, because there are a lot of folks who want a larger legislative solution. So,

there's been a lot of wrangling over what to do about this Dhaka eligible population, partly because the but Mr Schulz said President Obama did not fact have that authority. We are, rescind that authority, which means that the programme would end on March fifth. Now, when you give folks deportation relief also do is give them work, authorization? And again this not done through legislation, it's done purely through executive authority, but that work authorization is a very big deal. It means that you have a social security number. It means that you are eligible for things like earned income, tax, credit payments and much else, it's basically a kind of shadow, permanent residence status for all intents and purposes, but it can always be rescinded. That's the danger there, so the question is: do you have some kind of narrow legislation that is focused on Dhaka and codifying Dhaka in law. That does not necessarily mean giving people permanent residence status. Do you have a dream act? In which case you would

if people permanent residence status, which would put them on a path to citizenship so called, and if you either of those things. Do you get something on the other side, if you're on the restriction of side of the argument, so, for example, do you get border enforcement funding. Do you get one funding. Do you get a verified you get limits on chain? Migration, if you're looking a lot strict scientists now their orientation is. We need to do something chain migration, because if you're going to give people a path to citizenship, where we want to make sure that you don't actually take this one amnesty and have led to another enormous wave of immigration. But then, That is a very, very contentious because family emissions are a key part of admissions there very politically popular, etc, etc. Then, another question is: do you have some other enforcement measures put in place like either? If I saying that at you know, we have to have like a tougher workplace enforcement and Democrats

much universally are very ferociously opposed to having anything like, even if I could, if I D law biggest from their perspective, hey wait a second there All of these people. We want to legalise they're all these people. You want to put on a path to citizenship, and this would make it very, at the very least, very hard to switch jobs if it's either. If I for jobs going forward, they could lock them into positions or you know, could actually lead to townspeople not being able to access workpeople, they believe should be allowed to remain in the country. So this is put people on the restriction aside in a very tricky position and also the advocates, because there can leading these different terms. They ve real a muddy, the issue very very effectively, and it seems that Donald Trump. We have no idea what he thinks we have no idea. What is actual red lines are so follow question right and what is the right hand Salaam position on what the deal should be a fear, salaam right now. What is the deal? You're, sick, real, Stick Lee, I dont think you are going to get mandatory.

verify food in exchange wish for codifying Dhaka. Something along those lines leave the most sensible thing to do. A reasonable measure of ask would be to make too small to x on chain migration. One of them would be saying that they pay hence of U S. Citizens are no eligible fur, lawful, permanent residence status there and all your eligible for green cards. They are eligible for renewable non immigrant visas, provided that their insurance is paid for? I think that that would be very reasonable, modest step, and actually it out these older parents. They represent a surprisingly our chair. These old parents of of U S, citizens, surprisingly, law, chair of our family based admissions. Another thing I think you can you say that ok, we are going to end

new to allow you to bring in a siblings of adults. That's all it's very contentious among folks who want a limited migration, myself included, but where you could say you could continue to do that, provided you pay a bond so in a right now there's a big debate about whether or not you should demonstrate that you're could it be reliant on safety net benefits and what have you but that's, very difficult to administer in practice. If you say, okay, if you put up a bond for this relative and that bond will be paid back, if that relative pays federal income tax, if they do not pay federal income taxes because their receiving various benefit? various refundable credits, etc. Then they would not want of getting it back. That's very modest step, that's not, ultimately, where I want to go, but I do think it. It seems to be a fair trade for some done for the folks arrived as children. Would you do anything to? cut off any aspect of change. Migration are just have. This may go we're conditional those be the two things that I would do and I think that in effect they would actually have a pretty meaningful effect,

and you'd also be setting a useful precedent, but you could not say oh you're, shutting the doors. Are you doing something drastic and you? You would just one last question: you Would you only do this for the people affected by the dark, a codification or you do it more broadly across the system? I would I d, do it out? You mean the only ones law determines offer at the moment. Part of it is, will will end China chain migration or change change migration for this subset of the population that benefiting from the dock, a codification but leave it otherwise in place. For I think that now, no, I don't think you can do that and I think that it actually is creating a set of second class. It is, which I think would be a very dangerous precedent. Now, Michael, it's a big boy cars and meeting that Trump extraordinarily. Let the press sit in on four fifty five minutes and is, as close as you get to, seeing and hearing how these meetings app actually happen behind closed doors,

where's and he is very boost. Irish yeah insistent at the beginning on his is various asks in order purity, a k, aid, the walls he thinks of it and the chain migration and the visa lottery, but then, by the end, is sort of saying. Well, you can I trust every. and in this room and just you come up with also yeah. It very quickly shifted to just I want an accomplishment on immigration and in fact by if you were someone who's, really, and into the issues of immigration. By the end of the meeting he's saying, things that are your nightmare right. If you're a restriction, ass right, he's saying you know we'll do Dhaka, then we can dark, comprehensive immigration reform the next afternoon. That was the quote, and it's like okay. This is This is the language of you know, Senate, moderate Republicans, who basically want you know some kind of amnesty

and unsurprisingly, Jeff Flake comes out of the meeting and says that even after the cameras turned off, there was quite a flexibility, when the cameras were off in terms of what we do in this phase, so be Finally, it seems, like the senators took it his permission, slip to just what they ve always wanted, and that Trump is not going to fight and that trumps key pain is not going to reshape the you know national priorities on this issue. After all and it is going to sign what they what they want and, in fact no Linsey Grandma's. Coming out in saying that, like ok, the only obstacle here is Congress. Basically the republican Congress that might stymie this. his grandma's angle. We passed immigration foreign three times in the Senate, but it never got through the house. So I feel like yes, They based on at meeting it, looks like we just took a giant step backward to two thousand and six or two thousand

and unease shoe immigration, I'd say two things: one Lindsey Airline yes m hell, not around a lot of people given Hell for putting up with trump lately. But this is the reason why he realized pressing eyes dates, not going anywhere, and this is the way you influence them and he's trying to get him to swing his way on immigration, but I also put too much stock into anything. Anyone said about that meeting and adjust the including present himself just go to live a little bit of the campaign where his former position is Oregon a crackdown on each one bees. You know that was the written position. and then he'd go out constantly and say we need more each one bees. Then they have to put out a statement saying no actually misspoke. That's not what he means, and I'm sure, as speak right now the restriction is around him or trying to pull him rain, but a man though, that like sessions is pretty alienated from the president to end, you know banning gone Basically, just Stephen Miller and around

president we that that immigration restriction coalition in the White House has shrunk and they know that they wind and then the kind of model the New York side or whenever has waxed, as in the game? That's been played lately I don't know either. I don't. I don't know We can say that there's gonna be like this great correction, where someone our minds him. One the election on this said charge. How much you care about the substance of this issue? over overwhelmingly for you, a matter of process, wherefore gonna do this is not gonna, be through executive prerogative. we're gonna. Do it the way it supposed to be done under the constitution, which has have Congress pass this law, I'm not agnostic on it. I do have views that relatively complex, but I can't more about the process. I was outraged by present

the bombers behaviour for years. He said, I'm not an emperor, I'm not a king account do this on my own there's no legal justification and then he did it, and he explained his reversal by saying one of Congress weren't act I will, which is, of course not how The system is set up. I think give the meeting did anything yesterday. It was to allow us to dispense with the idea that doctrine is an authoritarian or fascist, he's oversee one of those times who invites the press into watches, deliberations and diverse completely to the legislature of you it set in british or american history that that is the definition of tyranny. At pretty much any point, I think you'd have been left out of the room. I also think it- and this was probably the point they did- do some damage their did. He see novel or demented whatever it didn't, do much damage to the idea that he is ignorant about this topic. All that he is malleable on this topic I mean I'm culture is quite right to be upset. I dont think she should be to upset, though

we with you on this. I think that for two reasons, it's unlikely that what we saw in that meeting yesterday is going to make it into law, firstly, because even if Healy, The entire thing to Congress Congress is still run by Republicans. Now, if we get to two thousand nineteen and the Democrats have one big and they ve one in the house in the Senate and President Ciampi sank, but Congress sends me I will do. I would you are, if I ran called at the moment, I wouldn't be because I dont think Congress is in any move to rubber stamp. That sort of two thousand six two thousand seven. The second reason is ass. You say this is how Trump has been,

for a long time. He often suggests he's going to do this or that there is an aim is, for example, that he's gonna get on board with some gun control measure, and then he goes and meets with the energy and comes out and says no. There are still enough people around him who understand that his immigration stance was one of the reasons that he won and I dont think it'll be too difficult to shuffle him back into that position. I like a lot of the ideas that IRAN has proposed. I am increasingly,

trusted Ryan's ideas and would like subscribe to his newsletter. I think one of the problems here- and it's been a problem with immigration for a long time- is that what both sides want ultimately is unacceptable to the other side, I mean I want some of the press availability yesterday from both left and right after the meeting and the democratic opposition seem to be. We want a bipartisan solution on this, but we shouldn't be including data, because that's holding people, hostages hostage and we won't accountant, the war- in other words, we want what we want bread and then the republican position, not from Jeff Lake but from the people who are actually going to decide what the republican opposition is. The people who can take their heels in seems to be

what was discussed in that room was was soft on the Steve and is unacceptable to my voters. So is it possible to get some sort of moderates compromised? Yes, at the same time, I'm I'm not. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing collapsed because Trump keeps talking ended in the meeting about the war, which is a no go for Democrats and the idea that we would see have some sort of scaled down. Dream act seems to be unacceptable to Democrats and Republicans alive, albeit for different reasons. So I think there's a man If opportunity for compromise on does not convince is gonna be sir, he exit double barrelled exit was rich. I want to ask you a question so I want to lay out to political scenarios one

logical scenario: Donald Trump really does cave and passes a codification of Daca applying only to those eight hundred thousand and he agrees to a clean bill and then you can actually say hey. I actually addressed this darker thing, hey all of those kids. To our industries, protesting who'd, been demobilized by Dhaka, hey I act did something meaningful here and that a first say: that's not enough. Don't deport our parents I support all these other periods etc. But then he did something transparently conceding something very, very big. Alternatively, Republicans the House pass a bill that actually does have some tougher enforcement provisions on the other side, and it does not make it through the Senate, but Republicans can say we actually made that concession and Democrats wouldn't go along with it, which is better politics from your prepared from Rob. Let safer republicans and restriction, it's more broadly

I think, with Trump minors for twenty, when here that dinner with Nancy Policy and trucks humor and they came out an apparently spun it and actually detached from Rio. and said they had agreed on a deal was actually seen. That meaning the other day. Maybe they did baby Trump did say this, but didn't really quite mean it. and thought it through, but in Trump actually, for that thirty six hour period talk said nice things about Chuck Nancy Minor, stating next time you showed up at the Senate Republican lunch. He said that the one time my people went wild thousand one time when my I could feel my base shaking a little bit under me so doing they ve just clean codification for tromp, I think, would be a mistake and am also I'm just not sure how much she gets any moderation on policy, so long as his demeanor so extreme. I think that kind

Prevents him from so DE motivates his people more than it gets him Eddie. Any riled and republican Senator told me the other day, and maybe this is cynical. None of our voters care how tis it. You know that the the dock recipients work permits are going to be expiring. They just don't and I'm not sure how much of the public really cares. Poles really well doing some form of amnesty but the intensity. I think it is really among a saw a small sliver of the advocates, but and when it. Let me ask you the double barrelled exit question here: will there be a dock ideal? Yes or no, and if there is a darker deal, will be terrible, mediocre awesome, no. There will not be a deal that makes it through the Senate and gets to the President's desk Michael. No, No, I don't I don't mean to spit a daily there. I think this I'll be really quick. I just think down from his approach during these negotiations, like a guy who builds buildings,

just getting gases from everyone to different aspects of a project that they can agree to, but in in the way the system works, its Congress, it's going to draft, have to draft legislation. It's not him. That's gonna present the plans when everybody's already invested, so no no deal now ass. I say I think it's likely that it will collapse and I think, cynical ass. It is to acknowledge both parties will benefit from that. It is in the interests of the devil. tragic party to keep this issue alive, and it's in the interest of the Republican Party too, as we clearly saw in two thousand de as sixteen so yeah. I don't think There will be a deal and I think the crux of the matter is true need something that he can plausibly com a law and the Democrats need to deny him anything that he can possibly call a wall. So I think

be allotted negotiations. There they'll be more meetings, more hopeful signs, but at the end of the day it won't happen, Michael circle back to them like a wolf book. The controversy generated by that has been rolling on and there's been, a real focus the last week and in certain quarters on Wolf tension, that's theirs, deterioration in trumps, mental state and people round. Him are literally a talking in thinking about the twenty fifth amendment. every day, which seems to have Stoke the latest fantasy. We on the left about this present is disappearing in a cloud of smoke in a first is going to be an electric lateral college coup We still have the Russia collusion thing running on the idea that will lead to his impeachment removal, and

I also have this idea that somehow the cabinet is going to turn against him because he has dementia and he's gonna be booted under the auspices of the twenty four, the men, what he might make it ok couple things one. I think that. I think that if you look at videos are Donald Trump, the nineteen eightys, I do think he completes more sentences without getting distracted than the twenty. Sixteen twenty seventeen version of Donald Trump. I do think that the b working in the White House. I believe Wolf's characterisation of the Hey ass, the White House is credible. We I knew that and I think that chaos may inspire people to feel like this. Guy isn't up to the job. Die and- and I dont think he is either in some serious ways. I don't think, that's a mental incapacity, I think it's just incapacity will and attention and they may sais talk loosely.

getting rid of him because they're the ones making the trains run in time and Trump is throwing them off with his teeth. Sore feuds or whatever as for the twenty four, the many amendments, as actual way to remove from office. I would, sailors, zero percent chance of that ever happening. It's never happened, american history before Republicans, would have to be Deeply involved in executing that which would destroy the party. I almost immediately tear the party in half or in to shreds So I don't. I don't expect it to happen. the only situation where could happen is, if It is literally like a nuclear armed. changes on is the stakes and then Then I think all bets are off, but short of that, and I I'm change not just with Korea shooting them into Tokyo. I mean like Russia

They we're in a three hundred missiles into that's at the point when I think people might actually executed but short of that no truly want to pieces of evidence for his supposed deterioration is any repeats himself, a lot but just meet that's a characteristic of blood creators and be esters and too curse, and we all know people like that who aren't demented just they south until the same stories. Over and over again, it seems like we have a version of what the right has been dealing with since Goldwater, which is that the medical illustration of opposition to conservatism, except for this, isn't medical. certain political positions is medical lies in character. Floss, he doesn't know a great deal and he's not especially interested and his skill set is not the same ass Saint Lawrence Tribes, lilies

He lost his mind in the seven I sailor and stripes. He doesn't know enormous amount about the constitution about how the country works. He he doesn't care. He has a visceral instinct. He seems to tap into some parts of the country that have been forgotten or ignored or misunderstood. It's got him quite fathers vice president of the United States. He doesn't seem to want to change. I think that the twenty fourth amendment idea is is extremely peculiar to me, because if you want to get rid of this president, you would do serve our impeachment. The twenty fifth amendment doesn't just implicate Congress. It also implicates the cabinet, because once the ones that twenty for the moment precedent has been start is still has to go to Congress and the city

president gets to make representations. The one thing that trumps him to be quite good at ass to why he's being screwed so and impeachment process would see the President's saying I am being damaged by Congress. You know that is. Is it? Is it a strong position for him to be in, but Congress represents a lot of people there, a lot of people in Congress If Trump gets to stand up and say the elites in Washington, in my own cabinet, the people I appointed the people, the Senate, approved, they have turned on in their trying to get rid of me. It strikes me his and would be so much stronger even than during an impeachment attempt why people, if fixated on this? Well, why are they fixation on it? It seems clear to me: it's are of interest to see. The idea here is that this guy's got into office and the

sensible, smart people, people who really care about the country and its people who know what they're torn by, who on greater they need to come together and for the good of all of us per party aside and and get rid of him. It it's a nonsense and I think it would. It would ripped the country apart right hand. You have any concerns about the mental state of Belgium. I do, I acknowledge all of very thoughtful points raised by both Charlie. MIKE. I do not believe that a twenty fifth amendment scenario is realistic. I also I believe that many who have rallied around it are themselves mackadoo, but there are some full serious people who are concerned some of the things that I too am concerned about, so make at the end of his remark. Just noted hate. This all goes those the window. If we're talking about the for a nuclear exchange. When I think about the Trump Presidency really do see it through tail risk terms?

do. I believe that in most scenarios this basically, I like he's a guy who's, a flawed personism problems, but you know, but I think that the thing is it There is a lot of tail risk. There's a lot of power ability that his particular personality quirks and trades, and maybe his deficiencies interact with a high stakes, tense situation, really we badly. I also believe the world is changing in some ways that in a raise the dangers, so if you think, about precision guided weapons. These were things that only the United States had. We are no longer the only country to have them. If you think the speed of the incredible speed with which North Korea's increase, the sophistication of its weaponry that's something that I find genuinely disturbing so do I think it is likely that we're going to have some kind of crazy nuclear states know, but do I think that there is a non trivial risk, yes, That's why I think that there are people who are not whack Adieu, who are serious people who write

really concerned about having Donald Trump as chief executive out again I'm not gonna, get me. Let's get to make sure we just get late two things here, because there is a big difference between saying that Donald Trump is a concern and saying that he should be removed by the trend. At the moment unjust. For my part, I was not suggesting that the people who are concerned about him are in any way crazier responsible, I'm suggesting to the people who have jumped from that. It is arguing for So tat. All of us to exit question here end resolve this the real specific numerical answer to this question rate the sanity. The time not not talk, Michael Brenda authorities, zero km, such reflection of trouble, obviously deteriorating mental condition. Ten, so completely cars that anyone taken seriously should themselves be committed. Ha ha ha

it's. A seven people are letting off steam idea is much higher than that. Given the impeachment option, it's a ten. It is, if you have to get rid of Donald Trump. You'd do so through Congress. You, u dont, give him the opportunity to stand on agency the elites of trying to get rid of me right area, be higher another set out an that's what it doesn't really curious about right now. I am more points out I'm gonna agent, I'm going to give it a six point, one and an Oswald challenge the premise of the question, because I think the another good question, another good exit question would have been. What is actually the politics? Are there and actually the twenty fifth amendment could because a lot of this is like it's ridiculous, it's never gonna happen. He is going to make other stations. I it's gonna have to go back to Congress. You have to get the cabin involve all that's very well taken. It simply will not happen if that were an option.

Available to us is that the funding in a dry you gone too far right how to start even Miller, Jake Tapir moment here, of questioning the the harder I NGO, Herman Cain and say it's a nine point, nine, and just that one last little bit that doesn't make it a ten is good. I dont think these people should literally be committed, but it isn't insane idea so too The eighteen Charlie's after a banner start where we already have the Oprah win. Free boom, sorry low tide on times list. You do do this when just via an exit question double barreled extra special Oprah Winfrey addition Exit question Oprah, run for president, yes or no. If she did run, would she win the democratic nomination? Yes or no Charles Data, because she were wrong. If she does run, she will win. The Democrats nomination ran yes or no and running yes or no winning the nomination. If she did she, run

she would win if she sought through Michael I agree she won't run. She would win. have unanimity. We must be wrong. She d they gonna run. Are she wouldn't when, if she has been right- but I agree about sixty four at seeing it through is the thing like I can imagine- are starting to run and then dropping out? Maybe, but I just So many flashbacks, we're all talking about, will trump even stay in this, this so said, a few other little. I knows before we go Michael, even thinking about read it. Yes, though I think people in the last two or three years have been scared off of the big popular internet message boards. as they view ready as like another, four Chan or another version of like one of these obnoxious you're communities that is actually poisoned our social life but in fact,

There are so many great boards on red it where you can learn more about your Hobbes or you can exchange like we, the internet, use to be before so from media made it all about politics, nervous about like mutual interests and changing and cheering people on about there, king were about their carpentry or whatever their doing. It's just, the great community for hobbyist? and I think people should spend more time in either on the internet. Sir, I handwork where I am astonished at how many interest you have an things you know about obscure. There is a blunder thing that came up and Israel meeting last year in, and you went on for about twenty minutes later in some kind. Think they're just saying that I've tyres equipment idea to get moving us multiple kinds. Are you also have time for board games True. So there is Equally, we are living in a golden age aboard games right now.

which I you know I can a vaguely new is on my radar, but I haven't fully partaken in until more recently and Is this incredible incredible game which I believe at listeners of this pod gas will particularly appreciate, particularly if you're a huge nerd like me, twilight struggle. It is a two player card based strategy, gay, that is essentially a simulation of the cold war. You go from nineteen thirty, five to nineteen, eighty, nine. It is dying Might it is suspense for as you play it, you feel the consequences. Every decision you can play and get lost in it for hours. It is to play a game. I play

last two nights in a real growth. Might what if it was raining out loud each other, and I know you heard we- we we also. Yet we also do that. We decided to take two nights or reading due to their places, boarded highly highly recommended, and the creators of the skin have made some others, including a simulation of the nineteen. Sixty presidential race, can't wait to play Nixon Charlie an aspect of your assimilation to America, where you do. snuff, yeah. Well, I'm I'm thrilled by snow. One of the things that I like about living in, I have been staying with my parents in law up in the northeast and it's everywhere covered in snow This is new to me in England. We think christmases are covered in snow. The myth is that Christmas is covered in snow, because when Dickens was writing, it just happened that the

the seasons each year brought snow that wasn't. That wasn't even normal, for the nineteenth century is just so happened that he looked out the window, and I consider that to be christmassy, and then that idea was picked up by Americans, whether actually was snow, fortys and Fiftys, when what we now see as Christmas was was invented. So I grew up with this all the tunes when I was very little in the movies and the books they they pretend that every Christmas there is now and there isn't, but there is now

now that I'm in America, and so it actually snowed on Christmas day this year in connecticut- and it's been snowing sense now, most people around me seem to find it extremely tiresome and wish the snow would go away and complain about having to shovel add another stepping over how together ties, changed and so forth. But I'm still in that wide eyed phase of being thrilled. I've never lost her face and they saw knows what we want in this wonderful, things like that Christmas morning was just the right amount and just like an inch majority made everything. What can we turn out in his snow? Soon? He was so thrilled by the dog was rolling and in trying to eat it and was shocked by the cold. It wasn't I pause. It was. It was lovely, says, take this week by the College Football Championship Game and I'm college football fan become casual one or a watch, but don't go out of my way too. choir, any real knowledge. I don't read about it, so

no the dark arts of Nicht salmon in any detail, but the fact that he put his starting quarterback at half time and national championship game there are losing the fourteen, nothing, thirteen, nothing, thirteen, nothing I've forget to put in a real freshmen who basically had no meaningful snaps all season and it worked out for him- is just credible and goes to the fact that there is at least one very stable genius, and about an excessive and canadian an exit reassure later when we hit overtime and Georgia scored feel go and then sat Alabama in the did you and what lost twenty yards? Did you see A thing. Alabama was gonna win, or did you think at that point I didn't

time to absorb. It could act as a fine line on twitter and he hid there's a terrible sack and that that key did make a lot of mistakes. I mean who won the game, but he made a lot of mistakes, and one of them is that we just had to get rid of that ball, and us typing some criticism of his decision making there and I look up next courage. I said sir, I look is that that happened and then they cut to save on on the line and he looked so calm. He had this obviously still going to win this game faith on my thought. My got album is going to snatch and then the next second there we're alone was at past sixty yards yeah, but those fifty five yours, you standing about fifty yards line when he went through it and just I feel sorry for savings. Obviously such a protectionist any builds these machines, but still. The human element in other studies nineteen year old have to perform and when the the the kicker miss that that feel goal, that was perfectly with time expiring- and I always almost matter. What team on rooting for I can't route against any place, kicker making a kick.

one guy with all the pressure on him. So I got let's get to our editors picks Ryan. What's your pic Michael Brendan Dougherty, you might have heard of him wrote a really work careful peace for national review online about the way that technique greasy in the technocratic impulsive kind of draining politics of its significance making? Yet in this actually an exercise of this, or that one says we oughta do this or that drains politics significance in a way that they actually makes celebrity Polly inevitable, because who else do we as our leaders but celebrities, who are there to serve a kind of pure symbolic function. It was real. stimulating and convincing Michael chirping Heaven Williamson rode on their website about. Pakistan, anything is just in the. U S with was withdrawing some of its aid from Pakistan and Kevin has lot of expertise in a lot of things and weirdly his

If, though, in the politics, the subcontinent I just think everyone should read it to catch up. On that situation, Charlie. I, like Carl Smith, on the golden globes had an immortal line that it was like having a knife safety convention hosted by O J Simpson then he really hit on what I thought was the key point, which is that the people lecturing us not that their lectures necessarily wrong for the people lecturing us on this topic. Other people have been the most guilty of it. Is that it like a zero Keller being caught and then in a sort of in in view of the police. He says I just want to be useful to other Syracuse. Raise awareness about zero can and it would be nice if, for once, Hollywood would have acknowledged that it, No moral standing whatsoever on this question, but it didn't

and everyone else was cast as the backwoods types and Kyle in his customary re, rich them to shreds might take as a peace and less issue the magazine by Nick Frank of it, you don't see his byline alot he's an editor, her NASH Review and his nose is usually to the editing, grindstone, but he writes three or four one for items for the weak ever issue and at unsigned seances byline there, but he is an enormous based fan used to work at a baseball journal, and he wrote this piece about this artist named Craig. criminals are might be saying his last name wrong that he Does this wonderful portraits of old time a baseball players at noon? Full color any does research yet every detail right. I ran across him because Twitter, I fall the account old baseball, fit photos and old ball parks and deep these things just as every day perhaps the least one or two photos I just really

bring smiled my face yesterday. There is, I never seen this before, but a color photo of that the polo, grounds and why these counts, but through find them. I stumbled on Craig and read the peace, so wonderful count. of his work and why it so compelling and a few I have no idea what Craigs rates are highly actually operates, but if you want a gift for a baseball thin that has everything. I would urge you to think about commissioning piece of art painting of their their favorite player by by Craig and with that's endorsement. We have to this podcast up, that's it for us. Thank you right hand. Thank you Michael. Thank you, Charlie thanks era, and for listening. We are editors and we'll see you next