Tex McIver. September 25, 2016. Atlanta, Georgia. Tex and Diane McIver are a very well to do couple who are being driven home by a friend named Dani Jo Carter after having some drinks. Diane sat up front in the passenger seat while her husband sat behind her. Dani Jo exits a backed up highway then drives the couple through a neighborhood that makes Tex a little nervous and he retrieves a gun to keep in his lap. Not too long after that the gun is fired and Diane is struck in the back and they immediately go to a hospital. Despite efforts to save her life, Diane dies. As the investigation got under way, some started to believe that this was no accident and that Claude 'Tex' McIver may have planned his wife's death and that a hidden will holds the key to his motivation...
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We have another husband who is accused of murdering his wife, but this case is
Quite as simple as that, so what do we do
imagine tonight today is
the case of claude tax, Macgyver, we'll just column,
tax. He
is driving home one night with his wife, although there
friend actually behind the wheel named
me Joe,
somewhere along the way on their journey back home. They have
get off the highway. Is that right, yeah
there is a atlanta actually has probably is probably up in the top five worse traffic city.
In amerika. I think Ella still number one than he got new york in San francisco
wrinkle atlanta in there somewhere, so they need
it off the highway? It's just a parking lot, which I totally get and they take
a side street. That's in so
the downtown area under an overpass that has a lot of homeless and its more poverty.
Calm down there while tech.
gets nervous and retrieves a gun,
I guess he is worried about the safety of himself and his wife and their friend, so he asked
says why pay can get my gun out of the council. Sheep pulls out there
bag with his thirty eight
nap knows and hands at home courting
tax. He grabs the gun,
They had dinner earlier in it they ve been drinking a little bit. That's why they're friend was driving and he
was to sleep and then he's
jarred awake either they hit a boy
or something happens, and he's
incoherent, any pops awaken. He pulled the trigger the gun.
Doctors, attempt to save diane's life, but they are unsuccessful
at the centre of this case is a man who
has shot his wife and
She died for some.
This is a you poor guy. He lost
his wife in this terrible accident
for others he's a man who was trying to get rid of his wife and made. It look
like an accident, die
and Macgyver was well to do
growing up, but
She was hungry too,
excel in life. Watches put it that way. She got a job,
working for a man, name Billy corey, who
darted a convenience store chain and then went on to pretty much
a huge company and diane
worked her way out from answering phones too, pretty much bigger.
the president of the company she began.
An attorney at fish, philips
while working there, there is a man name claude Macgyver
he's a problem,
labour and employment law attorney for the firm
so he's here,
the guy that, when you sooner,
company for wrongful termination were whatever he's
the guy that shows up to the court on behalf of the company
there are a lot of people already don't like him, but he
is enamored. What diane he's
trying to get her attention, but she's pretty stand office, doesn't want to talk to him
they met when they moved into a villa at buckling heights,
on kingsbury road in atlanta, georgia tech's. Actually,
left a note under her door welcoming her to the building die.
wasn't really end attacks and her first marriage.
At age, forty had kind of
solved into ruins. She
It really wanting to start anything new, but eventually tax got one of her friends to sort of get them too
bump into each other and talk again, so she again
read two to go over to his apartment for dinner tax at all,
I ve been married before his first marriage ended very poorly tax,
actually in the divorce decree- wanted-
visitation rights to the dog and act
as to the
hose in the yard to wash the dog off. So can I guess, you're
whole level of
control there,
your dinner at his house, she seemed to like him
started dating tax, has
at least as apartment and got another one that was right next to hers, so they could be closer and
They eventually tore down the wall between the two,
created a large condo, so they own these. These apartments, these condos in two
in five tax proposed
and they were to be married.
diana long time, friend, Danny Joe helped him pickup,
the engagement ring tax, sparing no expense
will buy a sixty thousand dollar ring for Diane Canada.
What kind of money they're making tax being a
well to do lawyer and
diane being pretty much a sea of accompany their wedding. Was the only one,
I can come up with is extravagant. She was
put on a horse and carriage to be carted up to the altar. It was
much like royalty. He spares
expense here on his wife.
in addition to their atlanta condo they
up getting a eighty six acre ranch in Putnam county, which is it
eighty miles, south east oven, Lana tax had bought this
can the eighties
he had a private lake guest house
horses there. They had me
parties- and it was there quiet country
retreat
even bought an adjacent property and
build a house for his good friend there
andrew ward. It is said that
two were very good match and spent a lot of time together in a lot of weakens at the ranch. So
The Macgyver and their friend danny Joe, I spent
a lot of weekends at the ranch and at the end of september, on a sunday
Texan diane spend the day golfing
Danny Joe was horseback, riding
early in the evening day we'll go out to dinner
de Longhorns stake house, which is now where I would eat. If I had that much money with these
as president of Diane's company, while there they drink,
lot of wine
an diane as had a futile
asses and tax has had a glass, though
later, he would say that he only had a few sips. They decide
that Danny Joe should be. The
the native driver and
Give her the keys to the fort explorer, so they can drive back to atlanta now
according to danny Joe
also sleep in the back seat and he seated
right behind his wife,
their travelling on. I twenty west for about twenty five minutes as their merging onto highway. Five. The road is pretty
a parking lot
danny Joe
she doesn't want to park here, I'm on the highway, so she decides to exit at edge.
Avenue, which is its really close
downtown atlanta. Now they
off on this exit they're going under the overpass, where one
its blocking out any of the light. It's kind of dark
There's a pretty good homeless.
Elation that war camp out under the overpasses
living in l, a a lot of my life, that's just a thing it's and gives them shelter gives them. You know
shade from the sun, so that's where they go
while their driving through this area, taxes not
really into this. I think
actually says it's getting dark down here and I'm not.
quite sure he was actually referencing. The light source he's
paranoid he thinks
that there might be people that want to carjack them
if you ve ever been to a impoverish part of town
it can be a little scary, but their people too,
some of them just have had really been,
lock in life and can't find a home so texas,
not okay. With this and he's
getting more and more agitated until he finally asks wife, hey
you're my gun out of the council, and she obliges
danny Joe, therefore
ass for the gun. He says this is a bad idea. Girls. This is about area, so
like just said: he's not comfortable
and apparently having
gone will give him a sense of security
So he has a thirty eight caliber smith and wesson revolver and its wrapped in a plastic bag, and so
She hands it to him and
puts it on his lap, and I guess goes back to sleep. Although
if I'm on high alert when nurse, if I think, there's bad p,
around. I don't know if I'm going back to sleep but whatever
driving north on piedmont, avenue and
to an intersection and they stop
diane and danny Joe had been talking to each other when all of a sudden according to dance
she hears a boom at first, she thought they'd been hit by something
but then she says that she looks
Over and she sees, tax is putting the gun down text
is that he woke up as
any Joe brought the car to stop
and said he was handling the gun and that's when you realise a gone off, so he said
and just as surprised as she is textiles,
hurt, you drive to emory university hospital. He says it's the
This is one and just get there.
There are now in emergency mode driving over to the hospital
since its not the closest one. This
The question: is he having them to drive this hospital because its further away from this area- and he does
on to admit that he doesn't want to go to a very local hospital there. It's it's possible. You know the people
I think he's guilty will say he was choosing a hospital that far away
because it's not an inner city hospital
it's a nice or hospital. So he's not going to take his wife to a bad place but
they use it against him, saying the hospitals further.
And in the last I think it
like two years, the hospital only seen two gunshot wounds so
how they they kind of a quiet this to tax. Knowing that this is
hospital, that's further away and that they wouldn't be equipped to deal with his wife.
They get dyin to the hospital before ten
fifteen p m and she's briefly,
treated by the emergency room doktor. They notice
she had two wounds, one in the free,
and one in the back
they asked diane where the gun had been Diane is conscious.
She's badly injured, but she's conscious and die
replied to her. It was an
accident.
She wasn't talking right away when she got into the emergency room, but she
I'm too, for a little bit. Her life was
definitely endanger because of this.
Gunshot wound, so the bullet had gone, had passed through
the passenger seat and pass through diane,
So entrance wound on her back exit wound on the front,
and it had hit her heart
the emergency room. There, sir.
that her blood pressure is very, very low, its barely detectable and
they're trying to give her a transfusion and their intimating her. But then she said I am
the die
Diane knows that she's not going to make it. She can feel it
Five minutes later. She
suffered a car
yeah arrest and her
ass, was open and are a order was cross clamped to lessen her bleeding. She was rushed.
operating room. They were going to perform surgery to try and save her life trying to stabilize her, but it was,
working out. They wanted
france for her to another hospital which had
a level one trauma center. But she,
and going to make it their while at the hospital
tax wall till one of his good friends. Steve maples about the accident. Steve also happens to be a lawyer also happens to represent
so. He comes to the hospital and there
having a discussion, so it appears.
that tax already started
two architect, his defence, meanwhile,
The police are looking into this because, obviously a gun is involved, trying to back
engineer what happened in that vehicle de boer. Hole is
close to the centre of the chair, and it's pretty straightforward, like
almost appears that he was holding the gun to the back of the chair and fired it.
but all they have to go on is
diane an date
statements which
You also says it was an accident. Theirs
not oxy done on Diane and on september, twenty sixth, the meadow
examined examiner will determine that diane
died from a gunshot wound and declares it a homicide. Now, that's
it's pretty bad, but
doesn't mean that she was murdered. It means
that she was killed by a weapon, it means that she was killed by a bullet. This wasn't she fell
down a clear for she had a heart attack, it's an external factor killed her, so they gets the label
the side in the weeks following the shooting tax maintains that her
Ass was an accident and that he woke up and the gun just went off
when Diane's body was released. Tax asked another friend,
Rachel styles
oversee her cremation whenever he looked
de cremation papers he would be over
with emotion and cry, and it took him several days.
To finally sign off on it. Rachel
down in headed identified.
And body and help tax out. What this whole process now
detective daring smith, who was investigating the shooting deemed
an accident he wrote down that.
determine that claude Macgyver was holding
the gun in a careless and reckless manner that, if discharge
would cause significant injury or death. If any one
was directly in front of said gun. However,
the I would go on.
To conduct their own subsequent
estimation and they suspect tax have,
add, terrio motives and his actions. They just don't believe texas version
story. Now the cops
investigators are calling
man slaughter and that's it.
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thing that could not be determined was whether the gun had been cut
at the time or not. And let's talk about that real quick, because this is
When you talk about firearms, there is done
action and single action and-
double action is when the gun is not cocked. If it's in that state,
this thirty eight caliber gun requires
of and one quarter pounds of pressure to pull the trigger to fire the bullet, and that's because the pooling of the trigger will cock.
And fire the weapon. All in one motion: that's why it's double action, because it's doing to actions
whereas a single action is when you just pull back the hammer? The weapon is cock,
and there is a much shorter trigger pole
and that was determined to be about two and a quarter pounds of pressure.
The question is: if he had caught the gun, then he could
probably pull that nervously, bright and would be.
Easy to, but tat
maintains that he was asleep when the gun went off and then,
what woke him. So he can.
honestly say well
It was cocked or not because he said he was asleep and he didn't know who sleeps
with a gun in their hand, disguise a moron but ok yeah
it's on december, twenty? First of twenty? Sixteen? That text is arrested and they
charge him with involuntary manslaughter and rare
this conduct. What
that says, is the police? Are
still going with with this guy,
as though Diane's death was an accident, but in April
prosecutors serve multiple,
subpoenas to look at
taxing diane's financial records they're going,
look and see. If there is a motivation here for him to murder his wife well like they should
when you look at the will you look at life insurance
policies. There is a lot of things that they could see if they find that tax head
in sending emails out saying I hate my wife or had just shifted the will.
all in all the assets into his name right before the death. That would look very
suspicious and give them a motive,
as a condition of his bond texas
all that he could no longer possess any guns, and he
he owned a lot well, he had a friend
Jane Calhoun who live.
Next door essentially, and she,
went through his apartment
or times to get everyone
that she could find out of their. So she tried
help him out and
fines how many guns she found for peace,
Those in his closet
one in his dresser
and a long gone there.
guns stored in her closet and diane's closet at the law firm
and then at the ranch, his fur
and and the sheriff of county howard, sills retrieved about thirty
I've guns from the ranch and stored them, NEO took him to the evidence room.
Twenty of them were lever, action, rifles and the rest
hand guns of course,
news. Media outlets will call this an arsenal of weapons which I don't know
The lotta guns he's a collector and he
very much into guns.
If you were to ask me how many guns either one of my uncle zone, they would put this
guide, a shame, he they own a lot more than he does I don't mind.
If I only have a few but yeah there's a lot of guns here,
as I mentioned as part of his bond, he wasn't allowed, have any guns,
they also were looking into the financial records to see
if there was a possible motivation for him to kill his wife, because his friend,
I suppose they removed all the guns when they end up going back to his apartment, to look for a hidden will, because at this point there were rumours that his wife had written a will and that he had
hidden it because he didn't want it to take effect, which would of course, back up this theory
he had murdered her on purpose or had planned to kill her at some point because
Why hide a will right? They go back,
on April twenty six twenty seventeen and do it
search of his residence to try.
I find this hidden will and and
figures found a glock in his sack drawer. So again he's not supposed to have any firearms, and here they
around one now his posted bonn so he's out free, but then
They find this gun in his soft or well now, they're, not too happy about that, and the judge will tell Delmar go back to you,
oh right, they remove any possibility for him to bond out again.
The question is: is dead?
friend just missed this gun or
Did he get
gun and put it back.
At his residence, while he claims
At the gun was planted by,
friends of diane or people they don't like him is. He
conspiracy here, Erin the guns been planted just because, however, play
did it knew the cops were coming back to searches condo and they obvious,
we would find this gun and you go back to jail. People had said
that he was very, very upset when all of his guns needed to be removed from the residents
more yeah. He needs defence man, he wants to say it's a conspiracy, but on the other hand he was really upset about his guns being taken away. It makes sense to me that he would want to go and get more of his guns back. Not I
It is going one or two ways either
He intentionally held one back or be
maybe he forgot about it. But if it's his socks
or I would assume that he's going to that JOR every day unless he's a dirty guy, his fright
went through the residents and tried to retrieve every gun
I could see him because when they took these guns away, they stored them at all,
as they stored them here were there
he knew where they were being cap. So I could see him going and retrieving the gun is too,
We don't have any tests
and if any one saying yes, I took
gun from the residents. Wasn't there and then,
So when you found it again, obviously someone put it back there
that doesn't answer the question of whether he did it or not. But I still get,
feeling that he put the gun there after all before
shot his wife his
Oh two was to get his gun when he felt unsafe
and now he's probably feel
pretty vulnerable. So this
I can well. The reason why this came about was a friend
of diane's name, rachel styles, who worked for diane, sir,
she had helped her out. She had copied
personal papers for her she had given her
copies and originals back and Diana said to her. Thank you. This is my new will so this
in twenty fifteen. Ok and the fao
swell she had created was in two thousand six, but in two thousand
fifteen. This is when rachel styles is copying.
Some things for her and handing them back over and die
and tells her. This is my new will, so it's
based on a rumour really. This is some one, giving a state
and saying shit
me this was a new will
in essence, is an updated will. So this
be possible motive for a murderer so of
the police issued a search warrant for text,
his condo
in his office and the home of his estate planning attorney Harold hudson and that's
because in an email that recap the meeting between hudson in them a there
information about a new welfare diane that would give tax the ranch condo and its contents, if
pre deceased. Her off
would go to a trust for their godson austin SH awesome,
not born. Yet when the two thousand six was created,
So that makes sense that Diane made up a new. Will she thought alot of her godsend. She wanted him to be taken care of
according to hudson texts
Diana, had a bit of a disagreement over this, but it was.
The disagreement. It was a conversation to him. He did
feel it was that heated images these.
People are working out. How to do a will and I'm sure know, will as easy from
jail tax will call his friend
Who works in the same building as the judge judge robert mic Bernie, and he will ask her,
Hey the defence is dragging their feet.
to get out of here.
Can you just get a signature? Can you make something happen here?
he's essentially asking another lawyer to talk to a judge to release him on bond again. This very much upsets people and prosecute
and he's calling from jail, so the calls recorded
and it sounds really bad. It sounds like he's trying to influence the trial he's trying to influence the judges he's trying to make things happen through back channels
If he was anyone else, they wouldn't have this privilege. They wouldn't have this leverage
only he does, because all
friends or lawyers because he's a lawyer he's got friends in high places.
I dont really see this as a horrible thing
against him as far as guilt goes. If I was sitting behind bars for months on end, I might try to
back channel my way out of there too, but it does not look good for him and its
just one more element that they're going to use against him so
Their friend danny Joe.
who initially had said this, was
in accidental shooting, I guess
our own money or was lent money by diane and after
diane's, passing tax will ask danny Joe for this money,
he'll say hey. What are you paying this back, because I
need the money.
obviously he's got some legal fees to consider here, that's one danny jos tone starts change a little bed on saying whether or not this was an accident. She will talk
about how tax was telling her hey
say you were in the car, so you weren't driving, which
that seems kind of ridiculous to me because she wasn't in the car who was driving her
where was tax? Where was his wife like it doesn't make sense for him
to say that to her
this goes to show that you can be a high powered attorney and come across
Says very intelligent, but once you
desperate well
maybe your logic goes out the window, or maybe
really didn't, say it to her
and she's just now. Turning against him,
can see. There's going both ways. Meanwhile, taxes
attorney maples has put out a statement. Saying tax was feeling paranoid in the car
because of the black lives matter, protest going on at Atlanta any felt that here
in fear of his safety, because of these protests going on tax, will ask
his lawyer friend to retract this statement
will say that he never made that statement his friend.
he's doing a lot of his pr will say: no, I'm not going to that's what you said. So I'm doing that. But when you think back
to what we said earlier about what d
He Joe said what he said and whether he told her not to talk any more about the case. I mean this
isn't just one person saying that he said something and then said no
say that any more or
I know you're trying to say what would happen in the case, but don't talk, I mean he's trying to manipulate people here right and he'd, actually
and left a message with
danny Joe saying stop talking to the cops and
delete this voice message after you listen to it.
Manipulation its. It doesn't look good bye.
he is a lawyer so
maybe he knows what's gonna happen. He knows how this is going to look so he's trying to play damage control before there's even damage and its
making them look even worse,
So here you have this
really rich well to do why. Guy saying
paranoid because of either
homeless people under this bridge or a black lives matter. Movement he's
oh paranoid, that he pulls out a gun an accident.
sheets, his wife, so he's trying to
flecked any sort of accountability on himself to other people for his own actions.
meanwhile he's telling danny Joe and others involved, don't do it?
sir. Don't say that I didn't say that, and also after the death of his wife,
he knew he was gonna, need some money for legal fees so
oh, he decided tat. He would sell
off all of his wife's louis Tom purses and dresses and jewellery in an auction and
courses didn't set, while with people who love diane and are
watching him sell off all of her stuff on it,
Would he need this stuff anymore right
the very least that seems insensitive and for a guy that has money. Why does he need to sell this stuff off
accordingly would have would have family members wanted some of this stuff for a sentimental reasons. Exactly and that's the problem is
really bad because oh she's gone now, so I'm just gonna start getting rid of all of her possessions. Even
he's not getting rid of oliver processions. That's the way it comes across and
again? The guy's a moron another
situation that happened with tax
to show, I guess
his hot headedness there were
three teams that had pulled up into his called sack where he lived
and were drinking and doing drugs or something partying in their car writer,
but it alarmed him because he could look
outside and see them there and he didn't like it
didn't belong there, so he
spawns by sending two large dogs after these kids and he fight.
there's his gun into the air and then at the vehicle
as it goes by
so this isn't just
scare them off. This is attack because too
The bullets go through the ring
left side of this mustang g t. Now this wasn't just a quick altercation.
he went out and yelled at them got his dogs
to go after him and then he opened fire and he will claim that they were charging.
at him with their car, so it was self defense because you know it's always self defence, when somebody
driving away and when you shoot at them, the bullets are entering the
we're corner panel of the car or side of the car? That's not self defence!
they were not driving at him. Yet the bullet
would have went into the front of the vehicle at that point if they were
driving at him? So these
are teenagers and tax well he's a lawyer
So when this
occasion gets reported to law.
forests and goes
the process, these two
ages. They just want.
situation over
There are already in trouble with their pets
because they were out drinking
in parting in the car. They should have been doing this and they
they get into an altercation with this older gentlemen, so they just want the car.
Damage is paid for which
is the deal that his lawyers will offer them instead of criminal charges,
yeah, they settled out of court and whereas he read a cheque for like two or three thousand dollars at most yeah, that's
off cheap for shooting at people.
Initially, he was charged with three counts of aggravate
it assault. I mean this is technically it's attempted murder, but he
it's three charges of aggravated assault bogged down to paying for,
open window. This is stupid at this point
I think it's obvious that he is somewhat
stable and will
rely on his guns to
resolve the situation in an office of manner.
right and I'm sure some people out there will say well. This was one incident. It was in nineteen, ninety, which was a fool sixteen years before or thereabout. So what is
have to do with the shooter
death of his wife. Well it may
is be one incident, but keep in mind here
here, the gun at the vehicle and something
Ass was when he was asked about this. He said
he just fired into the air
scare them off. Yet two bullets entered the vehicle, so he lied.
So his first statement is he chased them away without firing his gun and then he
as that he fired has gone into the air
but we know from the bullet holes in the vehicle tax.
firing at them
remember what I said earlier about how he can hit him
be an intelligent man he's a high powered attorney, but really
some of this stuff that he's dying.
Or some of this stuff that he said even it comes across as gis extremely stupid. So you can't
claimed a fire in the air, and yet the bullets are going into the rear panel, the vehicle it doesn't make any sense and how does
have to people who were close friends his tellingham,
No way you
tell me not to say this stuff he's very much
billeting so already
You can see that he's reckless he's
nepal it and he's not passed doing whatever it takes to try and get out of trouble and that he
it's putting himself in. I that's the thing
all these situations are what he's done himself:
and if you don't hate of enough here, is one more thing that he did after it,
the rodney king verdict that found the police.
Thus there is not guilty. He put out a statement invoking
martin luther king praising
judgment for these police officers. I get if you agree with the judgment
but to actually invoke one of black
trees, most influential civil rights leaders,
specially martin luther king, in a situation like rodney king
not exactly the best way to put things
Oh, he was in atlanta
he's made common
about the black
population there and pass
The comments about the black lives matter movement,
and you're saying that he is pretty
to caring about how he comes off too
king about rodney king. I guess
does show that he's he's.
finally afraid of poor black people.
So we gave some more background on why
He could be just this
reckless individual with a gun. But we all
talked about how investigators were looking at the fire
answers of them carver couple and what
instead they discover tex had bought
road or gotten alone, from Diane,
to the amount of three hundred and fifty thousand dollars and
twenty twelve
the money was, it was going to start
sure they were building together and was a building on the ranch is
place where their gas could stay. I guess the total costs.
It was over a million dollars but
Diane loaned him three under fifty thousand hours through her business, she apparently did
this, because it would benefit them when it came thither.
taxes, so in
get that you have they both. So
break their money, but they both
their own businesses. They both have their own. They they built, do
taxes and when
doing that you
one business has to borrow money to pay for something we have to move monies around, but he didn't pay his wife back at their agreed time so tax
has taken three hundred fifty thousand dollars which to most
Davis, that's enough
the motivation to kill him
one pair back long for
Spain has hand
over.
A man slaughter charge to the d
the da takes that and says you know what
we're going to upgrade this to a felony murder charge and unlawfully. Trying to
influence, a witness in the case
his trial was set for october thirtieth twenty seventeen. But after the prosecution,
and handed over a large amount of evidence to the defence and the prosecutor.
And actually said, hey organ
go ahead and submit a continuance on behalf of the defence because
We were very late and handing over a lot of this evidence and I think it was found
of emails that they had pulled from their computers and what not so the defence
to go through all of this and scour through it. But meanwhile the defence
the sitting here thinking- why are you put
in a continuance through on our behalf. It's it's
insulting to the defence team, so
You might have guessed. This hasn't even gone to trial, yet I think at this point we should make it clear
as the why we chose this case. I wanted to talk about
this case personally, because there is a lot to talk about here, there's per
option. There's this
to do lawyer who has a lot of money and a lot of
actions
whether you listen to the phone calls that were taped while he was being held molly
in custody or, if you like,
It is behaviour. If you listen to statements or red statements from friends of his, whose
very upset with him because he seems to be trying to buy
ask them around and tell them what they
and and cannot say or get them to return.
Statements that he may have said you get this
sure of a guy who not only seems to be pretty racist but also wilson
nothing to try and get out of trouble.
at the centre of all this is the death of his beloved wife and
That's something that seems pretty obvious in reading through the history of this couple is
he really seem to love his wife, but
Did he have motivation to kill her and when
look at his behavior. You look at
much money has and how he is trying to
spoil his connections, that's where it could completely
influence. Your decision
opinion on this case. He looks like
come back.
I have zero sympathy for the sky. He
needs to keep his mouth shut.
needs to get over this
Fascination
fantasy that he some sort of hero at these guns. He makes him so
look bad over and over again what happened justin
So this is probably where
People are gonna, start gone. What really just
and do you really think that? But I actually think this
an accident before you freak out. Let me at least
the pitcher, why that day, their friend danny Joe
who is behind the wheel, his wife,
in the passenger seat front passenger, see
taxes in the back, so tat
not in control of the situation. He cannot have plan
the situation they dry
under the highway die ways backed up and they get off on this one exit
happens to be, as they say, a bad exit. He could not have predicted that
This is not within his realm of planning. He then asks
bore the gun because he's not feeling safe.
and then he says he is jerked awake.
This is where I think he's lying. I dont think that the time that you know be in between
him asking for the weapon, because he's scared of
the people around the vehicle and then have fallen,
sleep right away like that, doesn't make
sense right well, and that could be why there are people that doubt that this was.
accident right because thou
be him caught in a lie, and I thank you
cotton alive, because why would you go to sleep when you're on high alert with? Oh somebody? Might car
access giving my gun he's.
going to sleep and there's not enough time that passes between the time, yes for the gun and then the shooting, I think,
for him to just not off, but they did have
a hall. Earlier in the day, with dinner, anyways the shooting happened and
I think he was actually in the back seat dorking around
what the gun, I think he
is so, I don't know
its fantasizing about getting too
shoot somebody whatever it is whatever his
problem is with firearms cause. He seems to be an offensive person nodded
events of person, I think, if you're afraid,
that somebody might carjack you. You might just put the gun
on the floor. Border put it on the seat next, you so it
within reach, I dont know
buddy that takes a gun?
Their finger on the trigger and falls asleep with
that's just negligent, that's horrible! I think he was back there.
dorking around the gun and he shot it because it
was a double action that
squeeze is a long one. You don't just.
Accidentally wake up from a you know. A slumber
well that trigger all the way. So I think he was half
pulling that trigger spinning around his hand. You know doing some dark hall
a thing I don't know but
accidently accidentally pulled that trigger wide awake while he was,
paranoid state and it was
negligent discharge if you
do any kind of studies, a worm, look at any research for now.
Jim discharges
the saying amongst gun owners is theirs to type
have gone owner or two types of shooter out there. There are ones that have had a negligent discharge
and then there's ones that haven't had it yet
was one study, we read took place
the course of a year where they looked at
three hundred discharges
intelligent discharges, one hundred and ninety five of them were injury only and then ninety
four of them resulted in death and theirs
funny numbers in their of people. That
were wounded and then later died from their wounds. But it's like one. Third, these things happen if you
what's any gun gunsight. If you got any youtube channel your you will see
firearm instructors shooting themselves while explaining gun safety, this stuff happens, and somebody like tex, who make
a lot of bad decisions, as we ve talked about he
it is making another one
It comes to these accidents
these negligent discharges
forty one, forty two percent of the time and other persons killed and then
forty nine percent of the time the gun owner is injured or killed. So the lack of planning de la
of control of the situation. Oh also the
whole being kind of in the center of the the seat. I thank you
is pointing it and
messing around with it: either
have control the situation. He didn't have any sort of planning of the situation. If he actually
and his wife dead. I think there would have been
far more. I don't know. I thought out
situation where he had more
control and he could have
done this and it in another way
when it comes to trying to figure out whether textbook Macgyver murdered his wife or
either. This was just a horrible accident. I just look
First for a motive to be quite honest, he doesn't
come off very well, but when
comes the motive, I believe
That's on his side. I dont really see a motive. I know that,
spend a lot of talk about a suppose. It hidden will that he wasn't happy about some of the decisions she wanted to make regarding the estate
and where money would go buy, it went
comes down to it. I just I really don't see anything there myself and then has just said,
He wasn't driving and
It was
drivers choice danny Joe to get off at that exit that
them into an area he didn't want to be in. He gets a gun out
his nervous, this was
planned. So when you put
those things together, that it doesn't really seem to be a motive, and then there is this
unplanned exit off the road. They were on right, there
There are already in negligent territory because, obviously,
the gun was discharged, but again,
though plan here, so I can't
sit here and say: oh yeah,
He wanted to kill his wife and the
manslaughter charge that they had originally gone after him with care
a ten year sentence even a grow.
negligent discharge could be a felony every states different, but the
can carry up to ten years. Also in
at ten years. He so old that people were calling this a death sentence so
saying that it doesn't matter what they charge him with, but whether its
murder, charge or manslaughter charge. The outcomes
same he's. Gonna die in prison.
it comes to defining
the court is going.
important because
if he really didn't do this maliciously,
doesn't seem fair for him to die. In prison over this, if he didn't
to kill his wife, then he
the guilt of being the person who took her life. This is true
I one hundred percent agree that his life has already been pretty much destroyed. His spent a lot of time in prison behind bars, but I feel that he I feel he
and other gun owners need to be held accountable, because if it's o,
it was just an accident. We're gonna move on now. No charges will that's what pisses off the public when there's
No justice, no accountability and its people like tax. That will give him
or gun control laws passed, because if he doesn't get charged with anything,
people are gonna say will so you can just shoot your wife
if in killer and la de DA
it's ok, it was an accident yeah. Then.
The concern that this gives
other people, I mean
to take out their spouse right because now
Oh, I accidently.
Fired my gun and now
my wife is dead.
Obviously, if you're mishandling your weapon like this, where tight
but the numbers there there are even fire
instructors who mishandle their weapons by this is
when just driving in a vehicle, I just don't
really get the sense tat. He needed his gun out in his hand the
He had it
We know something terrible
happen because of his actions. So the
look at it is this guy doesn't need to have any guns and I'm not sure why he would even want any after this, because his in
ability to properly handle a firearm cost him, his wife and probably his life,
I understand that it's really easy to pull a trigger on,
accident, but there was a sixty seven year old man and
county who
having a argument with his wife over what to watch on tv and the guy
add gone and shot the tv and he was cha.
charged with a felony
vandalism charge. Now he didn't accident
shoot the tv he meant to do it, he was
if fifty one year old man who was charged with
MR meaner for accidently five
it has gone while he was in a second
of state office
shot into the floor as he was adjusting-
pants now huh
if guns or even allowed in the building, but he could have killed somebody. Luckily, the
it launched under the floor
the florida man who killed his pregnant girlfriend law,
spinning his loaded gun around on his finger and it went
often shot in the head. The florida
ass uterus decided not to press charges against him, so shooting
television we'll get you in more
trouble than killing your pregnant girlfriend.
And here we have tax whose killed his wife
So when it comes to all of his actions, whether b,
calling his friend to try to get a judge's signature to get him out of jail or his asking
danny Joe to stop speaking two investigators
None of those things really cry guilt to me. They make em, look like a jerk or a whole, but they don't cry. I killed my wife
if they pull out emails or if they find
he was having
whole other secret life. Possibly
could find motive. Therefore, to do this, but at this point,
all I see as a guy that is really out of touch with reality. Really out
touch with,
people in society, and
just really makes himself look bad gather your question
we'll be is
going to sabotage his own trial, it it's very possible. I think it's just be
being a gun owner myself that
understand how he thinks and
I can not
appreciate it, but I can put myself:
his shoes.
I see a lot of the culture out there, just being
You gotta be on guard. He added you gotta, be
their first, you gotta defend yourself, but there is
gun safety, you never point the gun at anybody
unless you intending to use it
you, don't I don't know, fall asleep with your gun things like that there. That is not doing so. I would expect just on a say:
de level that people would take a lot of issue with his behaviour. Specially
it comes to guns, but
knowing that there are no,
cogent discharges.
Knowing that people can
have a moment of complete stupidity,
and pull that trigger when they didn't mean to that's where I fall on this, because I
I personally haven't, had a negligent discharge, so
I guess I'd still up for having won, and I
they never happens, but I know that
possible. I think that he's
deflecting a little bit was saying he was asleep when this happened cause. I don't believe that for one second,
one of these aspects,
case that will really upset people aside from his apparent racism is the fact that he
really got upset with Danny Joe and was trying to manipulate her into not talking to investigators that just
screams guilt all day long. So, even though
you can look through the case an alias from our
did you really seems like an accident shooting, because
the randomness of how he ended up in that position in the first place he just it comes
us as this terror,
we'll person
has his own doing here
made the decision to start telling people what to say and
trying to uses connections to get out,
to lie whenever
His gun was in play whether it was in nineteen, ninety or antoine
sixteen
If you have someone lying about things like this,
especially if you
hold her the driver of the vehicle that he was in there.
Jesus say she wasn't even there. I dont know what he expects. I think he can't,
see beyond his own nose, and I think that my
cost him, I think,
he's going to lose a lot of support and
he's doing with a jury of common folks
they may not be able to connect with him, because he is this
very affluent man,
who lives in his own little world and that's going to make it very difficult for them to have any sympathy whatsoever.
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