January 1st, 2008. Irving, Texas. Sarah and Amina Said were two normal, happy teenage girls trying their best to live a regular life. Unfortunately, they lived with an angry, abusive father, a mother too afraid to protect her children, and a brother who provided support to their father. On January 1st, 2008 Yaser Said murdered his two daughters, abandoning their bodies in his taxi and going into hiding. In an image that is now a representative for this case, just a few days before her death, Amina posted a picture of herself online with the caption, “I don’t want to become a memory.” Amina and Sarah knew how dangerous their situation was, but they had no one to protect them. Join us as we discuss a heartbreaking case that should never have happened.
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Sarah and a Mina side too,
normal happy teenagers? They were by
I'll accounts, great kids,
living their best life, but their home life was a nightmare
and something shocking will end up happening
on January, first of two thousand and eight. So with that, what are we talking about tonight tonight,
talking about the murders of a Mina and Sarah side. This happen
in Irving Texas. Some of you may
heard of this case. It was a pretty
story at the time, especially
anyone in the Texas area at the time
a mean. Aside was seventeen years old. She was
described as funny talkative. She was its
RO, butterfly Sheep participated
take one dough, and
she had a boyfriend named Joseph Trotter.
A Mina and Joseph were very close and
boarding to them. They were planning on getting married once she moved out of her families, huh
her sister, Sarah was sixteen at the time she's Describe
Does a tomboy whatever that means, and she was more reserved and shy. She wanted to go to
Texas Tech and become a doktor. She was always folk
on her schoolwork. She was very bright.
She had a boyfriend name Eric both of the girls.
Of school and their friends. They loved pretty
separating and martial arts very happy and positive. Despite circumstances at home, they were dating Justin but
no one could know this at least no one. On the side side
His father was Yasser Saeed. He believes
and arranged marriages and would not want it.
author, stating american boys, let
I am thinking of a future with them and while he was.
very, very controlling of these girls.
Watching their every move. He was not
controlling with his son Islam
who was the eldest child
Yasser had come to America from Egypt and nineteen. Eighty three.
He originally entered the. U S: on a student visa and in America he
I met a young lady who had dated his brother named, Patricia now
Patricia Owens was any kind of a bad
situation. Herself her family was very poor,
She was not really getting anywhere in life and her father.
was very controlling and abusive towards her so well.
This guy comes along and says I might want to marry you her fan.
These car, like you, should go because
somebody's willing to take care of you, you better.
jump on that opportunity because you're, never
to amount to anything. Anyways and Yasser had led her parents to believe that he had money at the time.
This is of course, long before the girl show up Yasser
twenty nine years old and Patricia was fifteen. So what happens right Patricia? Marries him yeah
I guess, for the first six months
answers a fine gentleman and heap
mrs her the world but
Six months into the marriage he's
becoming more more controlling he's too.
Two separate Patricia from her family. He
criticising everything about her and the way Americans live their lives and he's
to integrate her into his family in the moon.
The aggressive and hostile way Miss
when the abuse starts. She said
Yasser started, kicking her hitting her. He went. There are things on the floor. Most
often because he just wander her to go around a pic everything back up
he would also control when and how they had sex, because if she said no
at one time she said. No. He cut her leg to
teach her a lesson
according to her. He just had one heck of a temper a temper,
so bad that he went
after one of his co workers who here
disagreement with. It said that he
and over the coworker hit him with his car several times in this coworker
eventually died from his injuries now you're thinking
Ok, he just murdered somebody with his car. Why
Is he not in jail? Well, Yasser did come from a rich family, so
His father ended up paying a lot of money for a while.
Of good lawyers to get him out.
the situation where he live.
They killed a man by running him over with a car. This is where
supposedly the Syed family has money. Apparently
his father has money, but yeah sir. He needs a job and
for most of the time he drives taxis. Let's get back to the kids, because
Fischer and Yasser have children. It said that Patricia was pregnant within one month
being married to Yasser and that ended up
in Islam and then a Mina was born and the year after that, along came Sarah
when these two girls were
nine in eight years old there.
staying with the grandparents and a mean told them that her father had touched her and appropriately
So there mom, Patricia ended up. Take
men to a children's hospital to get
an exam and shit
old cps. So this is a pretty big deal and the mother
is definitely in the know that something bad happened. She
The author and ended up staying at her mother's house after the incident
even signed an affidavit about Lee
situation, the allegations, the daughters talk,
Cps, which is child protective services. If you dont know, they gave them,
details of sexual abuse that took place over two years. They said that they were afraid of their father and their uncles. Also, all of his
others. They said that they were all very vindictive and abuse of people
Yasser was questioned by police. He became very angry with Patricia he
he started to call the house a daily. Like every thirty minutes, they told him
calling, but you just called more
threats, they ended up unplugging the phone so that that point
Yasser drove to the house to contain
you yelling and making threats
and he was arrested for retaliation, outstanding tickets, but not
or stocking and threatening his wife and her family. Now later the girls
would drop the charges against him.
Claim they lied because they didn't want
you attend school.
out in the middle of nowhere today. They
Pretty much said we were
having to change schools, we didn't want to do it. So we made up this lie and the charges were dropped but
it turns out there and that they were pressured by their mother to drop the charges. Being
as once they got real once Jaso has getting charged with you. No sexual abuse, then mom couldn't have that
and she persuaded the daughters to drop the charges for people.
bias of relationships, though this is it
Tremendous amount of pressure
I'm not going to say this is excusing anyone's behavior, but I am
age in the yard.
is putting so much pressure on Patricia debt. That pressure worked its way down to the girls and
probably felt like they had no recourse here. It was either drop charges or
maybe they weren't going to make it a Mina
Julie wrote a letter expressing her
sadness about returning back home and
their mothers. Sister says she hid this letter, but kept it for her own records
was pretty much documentation of these children. Alleged abuse and now they dropped it.
Judges, but they literally made like a journal entry, a letter.
planning the whole situation in detail, but we say a lead
Lee because that law
doesn't stay in colonies, possession and its believe that Patricia found it took it and destroyed it almost
Equally sure there is allegations that Yasser sexually abused Patricia
and colonies younger sister, but no one called the police because their father would have
retaliated against Yasser and they didn't want a
long family. I guess fight to break out so
oh sir, allegedly,
sexually abusing their sister and they're, keeping it under wraps because they're afraid of what their father might do again,
this is just endless
web of bad choice,
but a piece of work Yasser is there are a couple of other people
no about what's going on and that's Joseph
boyfriend of a Mina and his mother, Ruth they adored Armenia and
a considered her family Ruth talked about their said. I mean it's hold her.
all about how she and Sarah were abused by their father and how their mom took them back to him
There is obviously a great amount of concern on their end by it. There
quite sure how to navigate this, because the police were already involved before the charges were dropped. They can't very well
first steel, these girls away to save them. It's just that
situation of being when
sixteen, when their seventeen
That's when ya, Sir, is planned
to marry them off. Why might he wanted,
that we already said. He believes in arranged marriages. But there's another benefit to this.
Don't know in any other way. To put this besides he's
Selling them as property- absolutely that's! There's no better way to put these girls are his property
and he will sell them on the market, essentially in Egypt and be,
some we paid. I guess he did take them back to Egypt.
To at least marry a off to a forty year old man because there's what's called bride prices
Her father was discussing the prices for both of his daughters.
He doesn't allow them to talk to boys teenage boys in America, because that would taint
then that would lower their worth. So we wouldn't
is high of a price for them when he
to sell them like you,
said a Mina taken to Egypt by her father. This is to meet this man is forties, but a Mina
absolutely refuses, and
I don't know how that worked out, but that works at least at that time. So he brings her back to America.
at the same time that a fur
and of sorrows Linda telling
Dallas morning NEWS that her father had threatened them
specifically more or less a Mina when
he found out. She was dating a boy. He thought
and to shoot her in the head, one
four friends recalls her coming to school with wealth
all over her body and
was a time when a Mina had been kicked in the face and her teeth had like cut into her lips, if not poked, all the way through. That's how violent
an attack. This was so yeah serves beating
his daughters to a bloody pop and that's
the only abuse they suffered. We talked about sexual abuse. We talked about the physical abuse, but there's
so this abuse of him
filming them and making inappropriate comments about them,
There is a documentary out there on Amazon, Prime, if you want
watch it the title of the day
Amen tree is the price of honour.
And they show some of the video footage that he took them
and he would zoom in on inappropriate place.
On their bodies. He would
tell them really inappropriate things and he would get,
own son in on it and to help him video, his daughters.
And it's absolutely obvious that Sarah and a Mina
do not appreciate it are very uncomfortable.
And are just tormented and
There's times when a mean his father would film her at work without her now
college, and he sees her interacting she's working-
you know like as a cashier in
is being nice to customers and he saying
why is she smiling at the customers? Why is she being nice to them? She's
maybe in a lot of trouble when she gets home. That's the level
naughtiness that's going on in the officers head. So it's
about how these
girls, I mean an Sarah. They
relationships, but they have to keep them secret and they
really go to their mother, she's already brought them back
their father once and they can't just run away their pretty much stuff
in this situation. I mean it
This point is
threatening suicide just
ended all because she cannot take disabuse. She cannot take being dragged to Egypt,
and sold to the highest bidder.
Yes or may not know exact,
what's going on with his daughters, but he's very suspicious
so he moves the family.
twenty miles away to Louis fell Texas, and at this point,
If doesn't know where a meaning is ends, I mean it.
As reach out, she emails her type window instructor and says
Here's what's going on. This is where I am at had she said: please let Joseph now so this instructor kind
tax, Josephs, father and says: what should we do?
This is when Joe.
this mother starts communicate
with the Mena so Christmas
two thousand and seven her boyfriend Joe,
of his family was at dinner when
He got a message amino acid,
her and Sarah were running away from home with their mother. They had had
stay elaborate plan where she pretended they had broken up. She ll
to her mother and father all these different things, because a few days before Christmas, there mother Patricia had called her sister Conny. Instead,
Yasser threatened to kill a Mina because
of her relationship with Joseph I, so this is coming from Connie.
whose relaying this information sang Patrick
absolutely knew about the conflict at home, Patricia
absolutely knew that Yasser
threatening to kill her daughter, so they take off and they know that
ass. You can track their cell phones, so they pulled
some cards out and snapped them in half
So there are no longer traceable and they take
of two Wichita Kansas now they're, not
there that long.
Patricia, is telling them that they need to go back to Texas
she wants to visit affair
Emily gravestone and visit her sister
Now a Mina and Sarah are like
really wanna go! Because what if you get back with Yasser and
Patricia, says I would never do that. What the daughter
don't know that
she had another phone and she's actually been in contact with the author of this entire time.
He had filled out a missing persons report on Patricia.
There is exerting pressure to law enforcement
and so it seems like pictures
is caving to this. She s a let the police know we're safe.
and then, of course, he's letting our sir now that they would come back. This is tough because
The girls were already suspicious that their mother wouldn't be able to completely.
leave Yasser. But of course there
There is tying them different saying I well I'm not going back with him, so at this point
Patricia has told several family members that she's coming back to Texas, but she's told them all different stories.
Not elaborating on her whole plan, so its December thirtieth, two thousand and seven that they returned to Texas and Eric whose Sarah's boyfriend. So
that a minor never knew that there were going back only Sarah New and agreed to, but when they did get back.
She told the girls the real reason, which was I'm getting back together with Yasser,
and of course you can just imagine a Mina and Sarah are saying
we're not going back to his house. We want to stay somewhere else, so I mean
and Sarah would call Conny and say why did you let this happen
you knew about this entire plan.
Connie said no, I didn't
He did not tell me any of this because, again
Patricia was telling people different stories or not telling them.
Anything at all Connie
hold a means to go to the police station and fight.
For a restraining order against Yasser I mean
One in the family knows the score here: there's a palpable threat here and a Mina fears for her life, but she
it is called by her sister Sarah she's, getting called by her mother.
and they're saying you need to come back home and Joseph the last time he gets talk to Armenia
He says: don't go back to your mother when you hear this, it you'll get choked
because a minor response I have to do what I have to do.
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five zero. So what happens on January? First, new year's day of two thousand and eight
He also said that he wanted to take his daughters to dinner, so he could
The men do his taxi and he
goes to the Army Mandalay Hotel, where he proceeded to shoot them. He shot eleven times.
Sarah twice and a mean a nine times: Sarah was Abe
to get a call
nine when one the beginning of a call
you hear her say my dad
shooting me, I'm dying now:
all the nine on one operator hears? Is I'm dying and he
engages the fire department, but it's hard to me
now I will say that the nine one one operator probably did not follow proper procedure. We
criticise him all day for this, but he ends up leaving the call open because sir,
has literally been shot and the phone is fallen to the group.
and the line is open for forty two minutes, but you talked about how he didn't he
Her Sarah saying that her father had shot her. Is this because he just couldn't hear it very well
on further analysis of the call you can hear her say that I listened to the
I thought it was plain his day, but he missed it and he just heard I'm dying, and
almond m ts and the fire department. I could
also hear gunfire. I could also
hear her screaming screaming at her father to stop
Oh again, I'm I'm thinking it's free
the obvious that there is some sort of threat, but you know
wasn't that nine hundred one operator, so I dont know
what he heard, how he interpreted this call. It was at eight
thirty that evening when up
then from the hotel called the police they had found.
Taxi bed seen the bodies.
Her initial call was around seven thirty.
And it's an hour later, that a follow up call comes in
And they're saying there's two dead bodies in this car. Obviously there was
any follow up from that initial. None. When one call they didn't dispatch
We want to that location. Joseph was,
by Ruth his mother, what had happened and
like you said early on, he had play
to marry a Mina this
very serious relationship. He described them.
Best friends and hear that
This dreadful thing that they have been worried about had finally occurred. Hearing that
mean his father had shot both her
sister Sarah to death was
just too much for him and we didn't talk about it before
just in, but the girls were aware of this gun and
I believe it was a Mina who had picked it up before and said she
thought about using it because
Obviously she was afraid for the future. She didn't want her down
take her life, but she was miserable. She had this wonderful future, this possible future in front of her.
her boyfriend, she loved her sister, she loves school, but then this was too
herbal abusive situation. She was in and she was
reed. She would be murdered. I think her words, were
maybe I'll use this gun for what it was bought for, meaning it was bought to kill me my father
has said so much
so maybe I'll use it on myself is power. I interpreted that the next day a detective told, Patricia
had she needed to take what she needed from the home, so she was
to go into this house,
whatever she wanted before that?
least showed up and she added
taking a box of video cassettes. I wonder why,
as well as a computer, and yet these
are the kinds of items that you would think they would stop her from taking because baby their important, also
this day the Irving police
issued a capital murderer, multiple warrant for you
Sars arrest he's on the run. Now the
two girls are buried and their given too
funeral ceremony is one Christian and one Muslim. Obviously there
There is muslim and something
very uneasy happens there. Older brother Islam saw Joseph at the funeral and he approached him and said you did
this, and obviously he sang. If you
David Mina she'd still be alive, which frankly I find disgusting. He gets
family members to escort Joseph out of the church and
Joseph actually says that they were asking him if he was in on it with the father.
like? Oh you and Yasser did this.
You and Yasser had worked together or something it was weird the tube
Laws are buried in a cemetery. If use
looks like a construction site. It looks like a junk yard.
Trash all over the place. It looks like it
dumping ground and maybe it's
he place and they didn't have a lot of money but
was just my initial observation of where their buried there's other guy
stones there I mean I'm not gonna, say everybody that's buried. There was disrespected bought her families but of
the places they could have been laid to rest. It's not a nice place.
On August, twenty first, two thousand eight, a federal unlawful flight to avoid prosecution warrant was issued by the: U S: District Court of Texas. This goes on for twelve years.
and during that time many people,
seem to lose hope. They thought.
this guy got away with it. Maybe he's in Egypt again, who knows right,
Looking at the situation and thinking how is
this guy on the run and not being caught. He
ass to have help any very
those with his family he's very close with his son, all of which have gone dark,
thought moved away right. After these events, his brother,
and a transportation company and
his son is
basically going to be loyal to his father, but there are not able to find Yasser, which were
ever I'll get into that later now
there was some information that the police worked out in that time. They know that gas,
spoke with his brother. I seen on the phone about a week
before the murders and on
day of murders, three points
five hours after Sarah's nine. When one call there's a call,
going from users found at last for twelve minutes. They also find call records between
Patricia and Yasser. When Patricia
and the girls were on the run and they find a call from Patricia after the murders to users number, which is this. Tell you
just don't mean it tells me that everyone's in the know, everybody knows where he is. There are protecting him. They agree with his actions.
They're, not accepting the fact that Yasser is this cycle.
narcissist. They don't care that here
just murdered his two daughters. They they just don't care the authorities,
needed to focus on Yahoo answers family in
Particular his son Islam
One of the reasons they needed to do. That was because had a vigil for the girls. Islam grabbed a MIKE
found and was shouting about how his father didn't kill his sisters.
but also that they deserved to die
Their own brother is agreeing with these actions and defending his father. If you had any question about that, he literally does it publicly during the worst possible time
Police, though there are some things that some might say our mistakes, but they dont question
in Islam. They don't question, Patricia they don't question Eric Sarah's boyfriend or the family friend named Eddie. What do you think about this mean? Does it feel like
There are not exactly making this investigation are priority. Absolutely they're, not looking into this YA, Sir
it up on the FBI's ten most wanted list, but they can't get this guy
if they really wanted to find him, they could simultaneous.
They kick in every single one of his family's doors. I'm looking at that.
then, just thinking breathe
A tailors door was kicked in the middle of the night because lawn
oarsmen alleged that she had drugs sent to her house. Not
being sent to her house, but had been sent to her house in the past yet
dont have probable cause for
his family, which is obviously harbour
double murder. They can't go kick
in his family's doors, the IRS can't sticking out it so far up his brother
transportation business that they could pull money.
out of his mouth
May we see what the government can do
come down on people. We see how long forest
literally lobbies and changes laws to go after drug dealers? We
law enforcement blow up houses, and if you don't know what I'm doing
about listen to our Robert See CAT Greenwood Village episode unpatriotic. Nobody would care if the car,
so the FBI Overstepped, while their hunting this guy down
take it harasses family. They could do all the things that we see them do too
far less or threats to our public
but they dont, do any of that. They don't do anything in this.
I rooms free for years.
In twenty seventeen, he was almost captured.
that's because on August, Fourteenth a maintenance worker who was at the copper Canyon apartments in Bedford, Texas, spotted Yasser
He knew about this case. He called the FBI
the time they arrived well, although
was Islam and of
as he didn't want to talk to them. They didn't have probable cause or anything I mean come on-
so they have to go and get a warrant and
this whole time their having to get a warrant. Who knows what's going on what we do know? Actually what goes on a man fleas that apartment he didn't even fleet in Egypt?
he's right under their noses and long for
France, not willing to go kickin some doors for a double murderer. Okay, this
Commissioner, you mentioned the price of honor. May appeal
this case a lot because they gave their interviews
footage etc to the FBI.
the FBI says there. They didn't really do anything for us, but they
conducting many many interviews- and I would tell you just from where
sitting? It seemed like having all
and information probably help them
or stand what was likely going on obvious
e Yasser wasn't just going to flee the country. He was.
egotistical, narcissistic and thought
leaving on account of this or he was afraid to go the airport because they might identify him there.
Whichever way it is he's remained
they didn't question his brothers.
And even question his wife. Well,
According to the information FBI, agents had been keeping an eye on the families, homes and there's a point in August of toys.
Twenty. When they observed yeah, seen an Islam bringing growth.
bags into a home in just in Texas,
and then they later left with trash bags and after the trash was dumped off, they retrieved it and, of course they ve.
Cigarette butts some other items and testing revealed that
The dna was a match for Yasser, so they
He's at that house they obtain a warrant. They enter the home. They find yes,
They play some under arrest this.
an amazing moment, because so many people who had followed the case eventually stopped following it.
where people that I recently had talked to, who did even know that he had been captured last year and
they ended up, also arresting his son and brother hours later in another city, so
The Irving police make a statement that stay just in
and they're saying that the FBI was an influence
she'll resource in finding this man and their statement.
This conference said that it doesn't matter what
let up to these murders. But do you think they said that I feel like their missing the point,
I feel like they don't want to admit
to a series of horrible events leading up to this. No one step in
cps law enforcement Irene
Maybe their hands were tied up until the murder, but I don't know
it just seems like the ball was dropped and they're trying to save face. I feel like
that's a reasonable analysis, but also there is a possibility that they didn't want to talk about religion or culture. Where does this work
is referred to as an honour killing which
Yasser wasn't a religious person I dont associated.
With an honour, killing or whatever those terms or death
Actions are this guy sex,
really and physically abused. These daughters,
for years. Videotaped them relentlessly and then ended up killing them
this is a whole other level of ammunition
would associated with our lending,
Faye Episode, decide
the thing to do a terrorism. This was this guy who was
messed up in the head and thinking he was here.
oh, what their motives are besides there, just their share
Narcissism and discuss
in controlling behaviour,
is concerned that by not tat,
filling the issues that surrounded and proceed.
The murders that this will be a simplified case when it shouldn't be,
that all of the evidence, all the information should be brought to bear again
this man, so that
he's sentenced. He gets the fullest
of the law, but the other main parties,
case just than is Patricia
Patricia Owens later.
Tricia side. There are different ways. We could look at her and you- and I
We think we spent a good half hour talking about this, but
He was married off to this horrible person at age fifteen, and what did she know? She had a bad home life
Then she entered baby a worse home life with Yasser, and then
there's no way around it, but she led these two girls, her daughters to their deaths.
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You know earned my sympathies only can go so far,
and my belief,
in heart. Has
right up. On this case I mean I
feel for somebody who's, an alcoholic,
feel for somebody who is struggling with addiction
but as soon as an alcoholic gets behind a wheel and kill somebody might
but these dwindle
feel for somebody. Who's got wrapped up in a gang there,
Afforded a lot of opportunities, but one state
kill an innocent person. It only-
and go so far,.
And you know I always use this analogy-
way driver drives their friend to go robber, liquor store and they end up shooting the clerk. Now we
all the getaway driver accountable. Well, if a gang member
lures another person down a dark alleyway, so they can be robbed it, but they may end up being killed. Will that person that lured them
there is an accessory to murder, regardless of whether the getaway
driver or the gang member knew that that other person was planning to kill their victim. They knew that something bad was going to happen. I can feel
for anyone who's been abused and is suffering and tell they pass
that suffering along to others who absolute
We do not deserve it.
personally air and I think any prosecutor worth their salt could have gone after Patricia and convicted her,
She knew her husband,
going to abuse them. She
Knew he had abuse them.
She knew he had threatened at least demeanor, and when she went by
She actively lied to everybody, so she could go back to him without any debate or argument. This was planned almost to the point where
I think she delivered them to Yasser for them to be murdered.
Let's talk about where this cases at now Islam side on
ray nineteenth of this year of twenty twenty one plead guilty. One can
a conspiracy to conceal a person from arrest. One count of can
a person from arrest and one count of conspiracy to obstruct enough
show proceeding, he's
Thirty, two years old, he's facing thirty
some prison. His
that thing is set for this summer.
De I seen said gases brother
trial began February, first, twenty twenty one and on February forth,
about four hours of deliberation. He was found guilty
one count of conspiracy to conceal a person from arrest, one count of cost.
A person from arrest and one count of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, he's fifty nine
and his facing thirty years in prison. His sense
Is also set for the summer now
You know that there are others that were likely involved in
in Yasser from tee authorities. Bites.
It doesn't really feel like much more is going to happen and again they ve never gone after Patricia, and
It feels like this case, as is often
you know what we see is never truly
going to amount to justice, the most that we might get is we might get several people put into prison and that's all we can hope for. I guess
right. Does this really change anything.
You're, watching this unfold, one tragic step at a time
and at any point you know it was preventable
you know that it could have been stopped and
Patricia was the key to stopping
I understand that she was abused. I understand that she probably
was struggling worth getting out of this horrible relationship. But I I don't have any sympathy for peace.
After what occurred.
because to me it was obvious when
family members telling them to get restraining orders when you have famine,
members being lied to by Patricia,
everybody was in the know. This wasn't a secret when you have interview
after the fact she gives
contradictory statements about the abuse
she endured by Yasser and we never get to see the full
involvement she had because she was
overcharged- and I agree
was in an impossible situation, but many
factors only command during sentencing. We didn't get that far, so she walks free.
Normally when we cover a terrible,
Like this. I like to read
statement by apparent
in this case it would have been Patricia. She made a statement.
About her daughters after
Her husband was finally
we're going to read it
have some thoughts about her. I feel like
might be some mitigating factors, but when it's all said and done, she's the one that
ever them knowingly to her husband, and I just can't for the life of me
treat her as someone who is completely innocent and completely grieving, because it's hard to buy
and I would ask the audience with there be
justice in this case. It Patricia where a
and charged at one point,
Forest my made it sound like an by that
in Irving Police Department may
sound like they wanted
figure out who all
involved in this- but it sounds like
he took the easy way, maybe I'm wrong
Maybe this is all they can prove
but it certainly seems to me like theyve
made a determination that Patricia should not be held responsible, no matter what she did, because they didn't charger but were not for her.
Girls? I think they would have been able to stay away from me. Ah sir, and would never have been shot like this is my fee,
I will never escape it, and that comes from the fact that both parents were aligned against.
And what else is she to do? She can't successfully
go to the police- you can't get help, there's also a fear that
sides. Family was so dangerous. They didn't want to put their friends there
boyfriends, whoever really in the line of sight there just there
no answer for them. Unfortunately, at least none that they could see subscribe.
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