The Tell-Tale Heart /// The Crimes of Charlie Brandt /// 648
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In the late 1980s there were some strange and horrific murders that went unsolved in the Florida Keys. Police were looking for a connection between the homicides of three female victims. The murders all took place inside of a 10 mile radius and all within just 13 months. The residents of Big Pine Key, Little Torch Key, and No Name Key were frightened and rightfully so. It was believed that someone was killing females and removing their hearts. In 2004, police on Big Pine Key responded to a gruesome scene. Inside the murder house they found a double murder and a suicide. Charlie Brandt was responsible for the double murder of his wife and niece. This sent police on a search, one that may never end. Just how many murders is Charlie responsible for?
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We start off this week's worldwide garage cas with three brutal and very scary.
Solved, murders in the florida keys all taking place in the span of about one year, just under thirteen months, in fact,
these three murders had everyone on high alert and rightfully so. The three victims were all said to be vulnerable female victims. They were all killed and their bodies recovered
in the short span of July nineteen, eighty eight two july, nineteen, eighty nine someone
were buying and packing their purses with cans of mace, some inspired by
you're in violence were buying impact
Their purses with pistols, others were signing up for defence classes. All three of these murders would take
place in a ten mile radius of each other this.
A ten mile string of rural coral reef
barrier, islands, big pine, key little toy
key and no name key
all down near the southernmost tipp of florida. Now, while the papers describe all of the victims collectively as vulnerable female
all three of them could not be more different from one another. The first victim was for
your old paddy lancer and then about six men?
later we have a second victim. This is twenty year old,
answer survivor, LISA sanders and then the third victim,
a thirty nine year old, former beauty queen from illinois. Her name she
the show who was very
the intelligent sure
was homeless by choice living a very let's say: hippy lifestyle
for a lack of a better term and sleeping under
the stars and beautiful big pine key, the killings of
glee. The horrific nature of how all three of the victims were killed and what was done to the bodies spawned some very scary rumor.
Some are saying that a serial killer was using the key,
he's as a hunting ground. Some saying
was the work of the florida keys Ripper
and the local media had its own theory either was
work of a lunatic, satanist or perhaps drug colthurst. Sacrificing victims
One headline red murders in world keys
spawn rumours of a cult. Victims lived in a murky fringe work.
There are calls from the miami Harold from nineteen eighty nine and the article captain
say, lengthy once I've cherry pick. Some of the highlights here and it reads big pine key floor
Sherry Peru, show slept under the stars and a
or green dinging little green dinghy was my nickname in high school. She talks about the magic of saturn
she said she had the power to make rain everywhere.
on in these once heavenly keys called her the rain maker, then on
night after a full moon, someone from hell lunatic our satanist, snatched, the rain maker soul, a killer, slit her throat,
cut open her chest and stole her heart. The more
of sherry. Peru show thirty nine, a high school beauty,
queen from illinois. Is the third unsolved thomas,
of a female along this ten mile string of rural coral rock
area islands, big pine, key little torch, key and no name key.
All within a year, one of the other victims like pursue had a missing heart, and some people in
These keys, usually laid back and relaxed, are very, very frightened quote. The consistent story is that the
orders had something to do with a satanic colt connected with drug shipments. Detectives are mystified. They major tyre tracks, take clothing, descriptions and
front and almost frenzied local rumour mill, they hall
four polygraph test a variety of key critters as they call them, centrics aging hippies,
with ear rings, tattoos an ex cons and suspected drug dealers.
Monroe county sheriff, J d for doesn't
since a murder theory and
Who plays talk that drug colthurst sacrificed the victims quote, we haven't ruled out the sheriff says.
but we haven't ruled out martians either or you gotta love smart, as all the victims were vulnerable females. One. Four years old, she lived with her mother. All the victims lived in a murky fringe world of transience wild parties and talk of,
powder and black magic call related or not. The murders have brought attention to the growing problem
satanism in the keys, Rhonda poor works at a church and mary
thought she says she has counselled six or seven recovering colchis. They ve been
involved in initiations. They use girls for ritual offerings on alter
making them lie on slabs. One boy said he
to take a large live animal killer in drink the blood. On July,
second, nineteen. Eighty eight, the first murder occurred,
little patty lands for wearing a white jumpsuit went with her mother. Deborah
to a party on little torch key. It was a big wild affair. People were probably doing, cocaine, says Kim Normandy, who it
and the party she remembers, patties mother, confused about where her little
europe was the mother, was sort of out of it normally says: sheriffs deputies found the jump, sue, ann underwear in the woods not far from paddies body. An autopsy indicated that she had been sexual.
salted and then clubbed on the head. The murderers of vicious dangerous person had no fear to snatch a four year old from a party undo. This Jes moments away from us
large group of people sheriff before goes on to say that he does not believe that this
link is connected to the others, investigators site differences in the victim's ages and the way that they died
There is a very compelling link in these three murders and that scene
to be geography and time. The girls
Appearance believe patties death is coal or drug related. The grandmother asked the homicide, investigators
send her surviving grandchildren to a psychiatrist, especially one of them
she goes on to say, I think, may know
something and is afraid to talk about it. Detectives question paddies mother,
a friend his name MIKE belladonna. He is a tow truck operate. The second murder occurred december, seventeenth, nineteen eighty eight
and be a small town coincidence or conspiracy. The victims parents lived next door to the first victims. Grandparents are second victim, is least
Sanders aged twenty, she was a small woman, forfeit nine hundred and five pounds recovering from leukemia. She came to the
these four michigan to join her parents, her hair, was still thin from the chemotherapy,
six weeks after her arrival on a friday night, she left
her trailer park wearing blue jeans, a pink tank top a silver necklace to gold chains and her high school ring with a topaz stone. She went to a war
I old party. Maybe a hundred to two hundred other people attended that party. Almost every friday, the party goers gathered on a deserted road to drink smoke pot and raise hell. This was on sparsely populated no
name key yeah, you gotta big parties back when my nickname was the little green dinghy. She was to me
her mother Marilyn at a flea market at sixty,
on saturday to sell christmas decorations. However,
never made it at noon.
sheriff's deputies noticed vultures near a rock pit. A mile.
From the party site. They found the body nude in some bushes,
They had to chase away the vultures. Doktor are
J, nomes junior monroe
These medical examiner reported that the victim had multiple skull fractures.
And not marks on her neck consistent with a rope and strangulation. They can
did that the killer had also club her on the head, apparently with the butt of a pistol and stabbed her with a double edged knife left to right through both
eyes nomes noted numerous holes measuring
the three inches some he said, caused by the vultures missing from the body where most of the heart brain eyes, neck muscles, appendix ovaries, bladder
parts of the long. Neither the pathological nor the detectives are certain how the
organs were removed by vultures by a madman or by both, but it appears investigators say that someone dragged the victim down a hard
och road, while she was still alive, apparently behind a vehicle mare,
Sanders says she thought
sir daughter, was murdered by a satanist quote. I dont know
leave for a minute. The vultures
yeah. Maybe this murderer is a satanist, but he is also definitely giant pile shit most certainly
vultures, did not remove the heart of sherry. Peru show the third murder victim, someone cut it out with a knife,
says nouns the pathologists. I think it is possible. It was the same knife used in the second murder, like
two other victims per issue was short. Five foot to choose
add, a child like innocence about her. She kept a diary painted and liked to soak up the sun
we'll bikini she wrote around town on a bicycle every evening before calling it a day,
She straddled her knapsack in pots and pans across her dinghy, the little boy,
had her name on the back.
Ro out under the pine channel bridge to about four feet of water and sleep there in swimming hole.
about ten p m july nineteenth a torrent,
from ohio fishing off. The bridge thought he hook. The big fish
it was sherry. Peru shows left elbe. You can't trust anybody from ohio. So, like you said, three female victims all can
did within a ten mile radius, but varying degrees of age.
But when you hear rumours that two other victims hearts were removed, that's gonna get everybody locally,
I learned tat. This is a difficult thing to sit here and try to make sense out of right because
have these three murders and what we do have is we have the police coming out in their saying? We don't feel that this first one is, can you
The other two we can't say for certain
The other two were even connected to one another. We do have the fact that one
They are all killed in close proximity to one another and there also killed within a short time,
period from one another and oh by the way round. The three kay
is, are unsolved and
until we know who did one two or three of these killings. We just
know exactly what happened now, captain not too many folks out their throw out.
praise and cheers to investigative journalist like yours, truly yorkists,
so traditionally, I'm a fan, however,
one thing that I strongly encourage that we all should be doing constantly is too
between the lives always look for the story inside the story
always ask yourself: what are they not telling us and
be afraid to question what we are told. Now you have to be careful,
in some of these situations, because sometimes I feel like news outlets
stray from the good goods.
reporting in venture into the sales industry bright and what
trying to sell us is fear.
and the more you watch and read the more you become afraid, the more afraid you are the more you will
return to watch a reed, because we are
fraid of the things that are out there. We are afraid of the things that could harm us or our families a lot of times these things we have
little control or no control over. But in some
weird way we feel like if we tune in if we stay informed, what we have
roll over that. Well, it's just the pot column, the kettle black, and so in this case it's really interesting here, because I think they do some great
work. Here. The miami Harold is doing a great job on reporting these cases. The articles, fantastic in the writing is excellent. The artist
comes from the miami Harold staff, writer sidney, freeburg, doing gangbusters work down, there's in the south beach area, but they stray a bit when it comes to these things.
it looks like we have a lot of the local scuttle, but that is making its way in.
These new stories and I mean across the board. So
this is the one that we chose to go through in good detail. However, this was just one of does
of articles that were coming out.
round this area all over the florida at this time because of the nature of these horrific murders.
We chose to go with this one, because none of these other articles were as good or as thorough as this one. Now they could be
right on some level right, like my boy, meat,
said two out of three ain't: bad there's no way you ve met me. So if any
out there in listener. Land wants to keep score here. We go as the colonel sees it anyway.
So is it a lunatic? Our lunatics responsible for one of the murders are all three absent.
wheatley yes dang, that's a score. Could satanist be involved in
one of these murders. Yes, of course, so, ding again, but a drug called sacrificing victim,
well. You heard the sheriff infallibly quash that notion when he
as we haven't rolled it out, but we
rule out martians either. So it looks like while drawing
This may be involved in some of these parties that were discussing it doesn't appear,
or they dont have any evidence to suggest that a drug colt was involved in.
These murders, though we have several victims, and we have several suspects and each one of these murders and that's what's left out.
these news articles at the time they're coming in with these
Scary, headlines that we got these call druggist in there just offering people in sacrificing victim
but really we have some decent suspects and each one of these cases and weather
Any of these cases were connected to the others,
that seems to be a concern for the public here in that comes through. Clearly in this article, it wasn't
much a question for the investigators. In fact, you heard the share of saying that
I have reason to believe that the first murder is not in any way connected to the other two, so they had suspects in each case and most of those aspects were only a suspect, and why
of the cases, there was, however, one suspected popped up in two of the cases, but not the third. So let's go through each of
he's with a little more detail here? Shall let us do it see patty lands? A case is a very strange one right. They all are, but
with the way the woman from the last article described everything, I count myself victim, blaming quite a bit thinking why
Why? In the hell, would anyone bring a child to that party?
and blaming directly year, just questioning the actions of the victims, mother, but some
Were information describes what I
to be more of a family, friendly atmosphere, or maybe at least one might think that going to the party right, this was
be a large fourth of July
holiday party families. Welcome to this event, it
on a saturday which was July second, Deborah
answer takes her for kids, with her to this party on little torch key at the party. They are roasting hall.
People are playing horse shoes and there's lots of kids that were present so not just debars for kids that are there. In fact, many recall one of the favourite act
it is that the kids were engaging in was chase,
one another around a house and
using each other around on this large wooden patio little paddy. Only four years old
at some point. She complaints to her mother that she is tired and she
Hey, I wanna go home. This is just before ten p m, so no problem,
amber lands, says. Ok, we are going to
no home. Let me round up your three brothers, the brush
are all older patty.
The baby of the bunch, its during
It is time that mom seems to lose track of paddy. We ve all been,
in this situation, whether where the parent or where the child you're at the party,
gotta gather up everybody and you gotta gather up your belongings, and at this point she can't find her daughter
yeah? This is when the confusion sits in an patty seems to vanish in the blink of an eye.
then. Sadly, as we know, her body is found the next day, not terribly far from the house. The host of the body with
days. There is a suspect at least one point.
in attending the party reported to authorities that
another party attendee, later determine.
to be thirty year old, Steve polite was seen, leaving the house with the
oh girl, just shortly before her
their notice that she was missing right. Police arrested
even charged him with false imprisonment of a child under the age of thirteen in connection-
with the girls death sea was arrested on July fifth and put in jail. So captain this was cool,
Things are moving quick in this investigation. He is in custody already by July six, with the announcement
the investigation was on going and further charges may be fine
police said when you have a murdered girl. This is what I want. Some answers quickly. Eye witnesses coming forward and
seems like a moment of guarding and
this steve polite, he
someone that showed up to the party with a handful of other people, but he seen
to be one of these guys.
is that a lot of the people at the party didn't seem to know who he was
sometimes at these parties? Friends, invite friends
in those friends. Invite other friends- and next thing you know, you're at this big law-
party that you thought you were going to know now.
to a hundred percent of the people in the room and
looking around in there some strangers involved. Our fear. The captain need us via yourself, so
a lot of people. This party, they don't know who this guy is also. They say that the people that were with him
came with them arrived with him at the party fit in that same cat
going where a lot of the people at the party did not know who these people were.
Steve is arrested, he sitting in jail
I know they were hoping to get a confession from him which never came.
And I know they were trying to get some a dish.
Evidence against him as well some physical evidence, because what we have
here in this investigation so far is just a witness or a few witness statements that have are victim and are suspect, seen together at the party. But if Steve is the guy
I well, unfortunately, they don't have any luck, getting physical evidence against him
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Captain. Now we have this steve polite individual, who is suspect, number one
on in the murder of little patty lands, and,
that his last name is polite because it might not
so polite that he showed up to a party that nobody seems to know who he is rain and
Fortunately, this is
ass against steep polite stalled. I dont know
They were getting conflicting reports from people that were at the party, but what we do know,
is it law enforcement gets in conclusive scientific reports. They collected blood, hair and clothing fibres, praying that were sent off for testing, and now
citizen comparisons, and none of this evidence was any good for the state and connecting Mr Steve polite to the abduction and murder of the little girl
one like you said we have eye witnesses, but how many times have you been at a party? There's a bunch of people around and you gotta run out to your truck or your cheap, to grab the six pack that you brought. So he heads out to get the six pack and this girl heads out to her car.
to wait for her mother, wait for her family and so these
witness reports it they put them together, but it they don't put them together in the sense of they saw this guy.
grab hurrying carrying her over his shoulder right.
Now the monroe county state attorney. He adds up to
missing the charges against steve, but this does
go down until late november of eighty eight so Steve's
in jail for about,
eight or nine days shy of five months, and then he is released. Now
Trustingly enough, according to florida,
he's missing an unsolved steed,
admitted to police that, yes, he was with the girl at the party. There's no detail given here captain so idle
If you say yes, I I spoke to the little girl or yes, I spoke to several
Kids, while I was there, but he doesn't
deny being in
company of this little girl, but he tells police yeah. I talk to
but she was alive when I last saw her, so he
I'm getting released and then again according to ff.
the keys missing an unsolved. He then dies
in nineteen, eighty, nine or maybe early ninety ninety of what is reported as natural causes, a pair
lee years later. His dna is tested, in this case
ass in the paddy lands a case, and it isn't announced that he is excluded as a saucepan palm
hunton down on the palm content
down by our second vigour,
is twenty year old LISA sanders. She was a tiny but strong woman. She was just four foot: nine inches taller forward,
uninstall depending on which reported a mighty might, but she battled leukemia. Anne was recovering from her victory over leukemia
heck, not just recovering. She was living life and moving on word and upward with her life.
Prize. Somebody out there fighting cancer and now keep fighting don't give up. You can do this. She was a kid from a big family growing up in
she after leukemia she decided she wanted to pursue a nursing career. She enrich
in the florida keys, community college nursing programme and real
located to big pine key and nineteen. Eighty eight about two months later,
after she arrived there on the night of fraud,
december sixteenth nineteen, eighty eight lisa
in a large party
on no name key. Some reports say maybe a hundred to possibly even two hundred people attended the party throughout the night. It's a party people come and go. It gets a little difficult to determine
actually how many people attended this parting from my understanding here captain this was a
regular outline
been we're out. This rural area out in the stakes and people just kind of randomly show up sounds like a big bonfire part.
born- and this goes down every friday night.
She is last seen at the party around nine thirty p m by several people. The reports
that she left the party on foot saying,
She was going to go home or walk home that night I dont know how far
She was living from this party, but again this
all kind of ie.
all community all
three areas that we're talking about all this.
In ten miles of one another, the fall
day? Her parents report, her missing
as you heard earlier, police find her body practically led to the body by vultures. She
was found off of a dirt road having been tossed into some bushes,
We reported earlier, she had been beaten, stabbed and drag behind a vehicle by a rope tight around her neck and parts of her were missing. There was debate over the theory of whether it was animals or the
Color or both that were responsible for the mutilations done to the body. I think
comfortable after reviewing the injuries and all of the information saying yes, it was probably both right. The we have this
eight minutes from police later on.
much later after this case takes place.
Eighteen, eighty, nine, ninety ninety, where they
saying that most of these mutilations appear to have been done by animals by the vultures
birds, but one thing we know to be true is vote.
there's didn't tie a rope or chain around her neck and then drag her behind a vehicle now, so it has to be both their. There shouldn't be much of a debate here.
This case has been in the news now.
The eighty eight eighty, nine ninety, this
has remained in the news from time to time. Over the years this one is now
straight very far from the spotlight, in fact, in two thousand and fifteen
police or once again asking the public for their help in this matter
even offering up reward money for information. Now it does
like they had multiple suspects in this case as well. In fact, they had won the day like the lot
the monroe county. Sheriffs detective bureau have stated publicly over the years that there is a quote person of interest in this case. They don't how
ever give this man's name, but we did
we'll digging of our own here and we
this to be a guy that I call the man with four first names, this
guy billy Lee Scott, a man convicted
rape, murder and manslaughter up here in our state, ohio.
from these charges and convictions he
it's been in jail or prisons. Here in ohio for over thirty years now
and was recently in our local news. In fact, just four days ago we were told that the
hi innocence project is stepping up to bat for
guy billy lee scandal. This case is gonna, be difficult for law enforcement because, like you said the party is so large a hundred people to two hundred people's. That's a lot of people to try to track down
especially when there's no like list of people that came to the party. We have a lot of people just from the community droppin by yeah, an
Scott is sixty years old, old turkey still in prison here in ohio, he serving a fifteen years to life in prison sentence that he received from a butler county jury after being convicted of murder, rape and assault. His case is difficult because up here, no
oh he's, accused of raping and murdering a woman named LISA buckley,
and, oddly enough, this mortar takes place shortly after an outdoor party sounds a little similar to our first victims. First to victims here in the key stood down than tint and
the problem with his conviction, or at least as far as the ohio innocence project, sees it and I'm not
care to make any enemies, especially with the good people of the ohio innocence, project yeah. Well, I'm here to talk shit and kick some ass. I've reviewed a lot of this case. The guy looks
to me he's had several appeals have held up in court, but look there
do in their jobs. Their go
give him a shot here. I guess,
There's dna and this lisa buckley case and so they're going to get scots dna and compare it to the buckley case.
And if he doesn't match up we're going to say,
This guy was innocent. He was basically convicted off of eye witness statements and no
physical evidence at all in the least buckley case, oddly enough
seems to be that that might be
same thing. That was connecting him to the LISA sanders case and ninety
eighty eight down in the keys that you have some people, suggesting that he was there at the party.
And then now we have a victim the following day. There was:
so some rumour. At the time the police were searching for a pickup truck.
Possibly with ohio license plates on it. That is back in nineteen. Eighty eight and the LISA sanders case on just to be clear just because the ohio innocence project is going to be taken on this case, they're going to be doing tests before they fully invest.
they're all their time and energy correct. So this is going to go down relatively soon. For my understanding there was a rape kit from the lisa
we came here and a higher and finger nails scrapings and for my
you're standing that evidence
never been tested and has never been tested against this individual. Here, MR scott baby, these results we can go over on an episode of off the record. His claim and his defence teams claim, is that this guy was convicted on the statements.
of eye witnesses or, as they say, people that made up this story.
Him to get him convicted, get him wrongfully convicted persons that testified against him in the least buckley case
One was from a previous relationship which he had the didn't go so well, and the
There was a family member of an individual that he was convicted of killing, so they're, saying
People had a vested interest in testifying against him, truthful or otherwise,
was already convicted of manslaughter. He was in
all in a shoot out where we end up with people
passing away from their injuries from this shoot out. Brian. So that's how
gets the manslaughter charge and his defence
steam, saying, of course, this one person test
I'd against him and led to his conviction in the least buckley case, and they had reason.
To do so in that's because they hated him for being.
in the shoot out where their loved one passed away and they prob
we don't feel like he got a long enough sentence,
Can I agree in this case I mean some people get longer sentence for selling marijuana. Now we see.
all that, but really it
into the day. The man with four first names he's got nothing to lose just a couple. First name he's in prison either way so, of course, he's going to say test it test it test it and hope
if something goes wrong, even if he did do it for him and he catches up
Can he gets out now we
so could be sitting here a few months.
now going well
he got what he wanted for they tested it and it turns out. Yes, he killed lisa buckle than
screamed the high he is getting, but even
she's innocent. We have this rough individual that
we know of. As far as his history goes.
Or he put himself around three situations where there's murdered victims
that's what so interesting to me here. Captain with this individual as a potential good suspect
the paddy lands a case. I'm gonna conclude that one as well,
LISA Sanders case, so I were viewed some statements
that makes it sound like maybe he should be a suspect in the paddy lands- are cases well reportedly,
he was seen at the no name, key party
And then seen at the July second nineteen, eighty eight,
already on little torch, key the one that the food
europe, patty lands are went missing from and then
eight or her body, found near by the following day, while, like we said all three victims were found with,
a ten mile radius around some?
times so if this guy
seen at one party that puts him as a possible suspect in all the case, so down there in the keys within the six month stretch,
you have to victims that are murdered shortly after or during the course of a party right now. What would make him interesting is? Yes, he seems to have been a suspect in the least sanders case, but some of these reports are suggesting that he attended both
of the parties brain now monroe county detectives or on the record saying that quote. He was present at both those parties, but a lot of other people also were present at both.
citing there is such a small community right. Ok so
There are a lot of similarities to the least sanders case compared to the lisa buckley case.
and this coming from law enforcement, they say it happened after
door party and the ohio victim oddly enough was also named lisa. The thing with scott being guilty or innocent in the buckley case, or the sanders Kay
or let's go even with the paddy lands a case. Yes, the statement from law enforcement down
the key seeing a lot of people were at both parties, but guess what chicken bone I guarantee you. I would slap down a bit
old Ben benjamin franklin on this one in wager it I guarantee
He was the only guy that was at all three parties and I'm talking about the the
already appear in ohio, where LISA buckley was killed afterwards. Brain now,.
They are saying they want to test scots dna, for
paris in the lisa buckley case in ohio, and that might
honorary him or exclude him from her
been the killer in the buckley case? I say great
if he is willing to give his dna for testing, and
harrison in that case to confirm or
move him as the guy in the Buckley ohio case. Let's take the idea
too, and if you have any available for our perpetrator,
in the paddy lands, a case which you might write. We give. We gave the statement that it was reported that the one guy who was cha
enriched with unlawful imprisonment of a child
under the age of thirteen steve polite he
locked up and held in jail for
for almost five months,
released and then the
ports are that he'd passed away a year year and a half later and
dna was tested years later, which excluded him as a suspect in the patty lands case. That would imply
that they have dna of
perpetrator in the paddy lands a case right
They may also have dna of the perpetrator in the least sanders case, because we now
oh, according to all the reports that she unfortunate
was raped if he
since dna compared in the least buckley case. I say great: let's do it,
because if he was wrong wrongfully convicted get him out of that
as quickly as you possibly can
However, he stay in jail for a global time, because he's charged with
other homicide. However, if he
willing to give his dna for comparison. In that case, I say if it's possible is compare it in the patty
a case in the least sanders cases where they can test them for all three and look
maybe he is innocent of all three and it's just a weird coincidence that he was at all three parties, but at least
it closer to an answer by a process of elimination. That's exactly right said:
months after the brutal torture killing of LISA sanders? A man fishing off of the big pine key bridge at first thought that he caught a big fish, but sadly it turned out to be that he hooked a human elbow.
now the way that this goes down, and I thought this to be a little bit fishy. Let's say to start with no pun intended very ago when you die,
deep into the details. Here, I'm always suspicious of the person that finds the body plus
From a higher- and here this sounds like a suspicious story,
it took much digging too to find out the detail,
This individual one was not alone to was from out of state an was
on vacation with three other friends, and it was a vicious fishery. Then yes,
it was a fishing trip that involved for individual, so they're all fishing off of this bridge now remain.
Where we had said earlier in the description
of sherry. Peru shows life
thirty nine year old homicide.
sherry pre show
He lived on this little boat and at night time she would take it under this bridge,
image near a swimming hole in
regular, bleak sleep. There under the stars at nighttime what it appears to be captain, is it some
de in the middle of the night must have approached her and murdered her and they
leave her in the same general area and unfortunately,
This man who's on vacation is there with his three friends. The four of them are out fishing. He hooks
the elbow of sherry pre so very quickly. We have the discovery.
of our third victim thirty nine year old, sherry pre, who is reported to be a free spirit of woman living on a small boat. Now she wasn't just
killed. This is where we stray.
a thousand times away from the first two murders.
Unfortunately, you know the patty lands. In case it looks like somebody abducted, the little girl assaulted,
and killed her within a very quick period of time and left the body near the home of the house. That was
hosting that party lisa sanders a little more complicated. Did she get into the two
car with the wrong individual was she abducted on
the road ass. She was walking home that night, it's difficult to say what we
the say is that somebody took her from where,
ever they got her from and they pay
I her body in the bushes not close to where this party was
and then the animals get to the body in really complicate things. What the investigation! In this case,
there's that somebody just went after this woman in the middle of the night, where she
intending to sleep or near by her camp. If you want to call it that she wasn't just
she was mutilate. This is a fact where it was a debate.
With LISA sanders did a madman. Do it did the animals do it or did both do
We're saying we believe both in this case. This is completely different. This
is man made mutilation on this poor woman on this victim to me
it's like somebody, even playing with the body after the murder.
It was determined that she was drowned
The autopsy revealed the details of the mutilation, some of which was the throat slashed so deeply that the spy
severed and that she was almost decapitated, she was sliced down the length of her torso and her heart and
her things were removed. The cuts were so precise that one law enforcement officers said quote it was
surgical. There was no mistake about what happened here.
this is the murder that the locals ran wild with. There were so many things:
areas on this one. Each
Restrained stranger than the last
and there were a lot of suspects, I can't say if the
where people consider to be solved
it's by the actual police, but the general public certainly had a list of suspects. At this point, the community calling the delphi case of just gonna, throw out to law enforcement almost any way
Suspicion, I think this is because of a few different factors here in this case, compared to the others why why
is there such a heightened level of
fascination in fear surrounding this case compared to the others, one this being the third murder of this type, and just roughly about one year's time to the horror of this one, the mouth of
degradation done to the corpse is pretty much beyond comprehension, while
we question that with the second victim, we don't have to question that so much with the third week in here with the third victim. I think part of the mystery here.
Is compounded by the mysterious lifestyle of the victim herself. She was a mystery.
now she's involved in this mystery. Who was the lunatic
the satanist, the mad man, the monster that
her in the middle of the night, so much more to get to join us back here in the grass tomorrow and until then,
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