In other words, their safety has been fully reimagined. Mark Mccloskey joins us tonight. Mark thanks much for coming on. So before I ask you about how you feel about this to reimagine public safety. You been subjected to tell us specifically what happen when the police visited your home recently. Well, you know the police were really very professional and very nice. They cops that came out to issue the search warrant en masse. They were almost apologetic, they didnt want to have to be there. They were doing their job. Patty wanted to take a picture to document it and she asked if they wouldnt mind facing away from the camera so that people wouldnt get mad at them. If their faces were shown on tv, they all did so they unfortunate are stuck between a circuit attorney that wants to prosecute us in their own belief that we did absolutely nothing wrong. It goes without saying I mean police departments are structured along the lines of the military they dont make independent. They are told what to to do and they do it.

They didnt make this decision independently, but you still can escape the contrast of what happened the night, the mob came to your home and you call the police and they didnt, and then they come at the command of the prosecuting attorney later. To take the defend yourself is that what police are for? Do you think? Well, you know- and my attorney advised me not to be on the show tonight, because the rumor is that we are going to be indicted shortly. Having said that, this is the same circuit attorney that really thirty five of the protesters that torched and looted in downtown St Louis. But now she wants to indict me. I didnt shoot anybody. I just held my ground protecting my house and im sitting here on television tonight instead of dead or putting out the smoldering embers of my home. So I mean your strategy in response to all this seems to be staying, silent, doesnt get to anything. Obviously, if you just retreated into your house, it probably would be

burned to the ground, as you just said, but is that how society should function? I mean shouldnt someone in authority in the state of Missouri be coming to your aid right about now. You know the way I view it is when you have certain elements of society: encouraging violence at the same time asking the police to stand down whats the only possible result. The only possible solution is for individual citizens to stand up and defend themselves, im afraid that whats being promoted is causing citizens to stand up and defend themselves, so they can be abused. The way we have been, I dont, think theres any doubt about that. I dont think theres, a homeowner in America wants to defend his own home with a gun that something you do. If you have no choice, youd much rather, the police came and took the risk for you thats why you pay them, but they want. What do you make of the media response? You are lectured on another

channel by a guy whos threatened violence against people for getting in his space, and yet he dressed you down for defending your home. What do you make of it? The traditional media is right behind the mob. We are not allowed to use that word anymore, a loud crowd of angry people and they are supporting these entities, which are from my understanding, marxist and oppose every thing I stand born, I hold dear. We have gotten tremendous support from ordinary people. My phones in my emails are at about ninety percent positive. We have gotten calls from all over the world. I got a nice letter from a lady in Ireland, congratulated us for taking a stand against violence, and so I think that the vast majority of Americans wish they could do something. The problem is: if nobody stands up and supports them. If the media blasts them im self employed, I own my own law firm. What if I was an employee somewhere? If I did what I did and I was an employee of anybody else, I would have been canned the next day

my family wouldve been canned. No one would ever get a job again. This is the kind of social pressure that keeps people from standing up and defending themselves, and I think its time for people to take a different stand, actually stand up and have some risk. Patrick Henry said: give me liberty or give me death and now everybody so afraid of losing their job. I think youre exactly right. Slogans like that are meaningless and less people in up to defend the country. Mark Mccloskey, who has defended.