You know there is something about this school the it can make even me good at football that's amazing, I can't get a credible. No, my dear you're, not from Alabama area, I am not. I can tell you a hundred percent. I am not. What did something happened?

the girl instead use senator. We were obviously we were in Madison Wisconsin last night with a little chile. There, ok, not just the weather, the bottle It's a little bit chile.

But here the Sweet AIR Reno means mentioned that it is good to be here in this great free state, at this fabulous university with all these wonderful conservative students. Thank you. So this is the freest place in Amerika. I believe I will I am glad that we can do that is there is there is a lot to talk about and the left and the media and big tack and end doktor of algae want to shut us up in muzzle us and not. Let us talk I think we can do it here tonight. We know about gas last year

who is this Brandon guys that a football fan- and I don't think it's a football thing- is that I keep hearing everybody loves. This guy random is clearly winning the highs. five hundred and twenty nine years ago, Christopher Columbus, discovered America. Just this week, Katy Kirk admitted she covered up the truth about Ruth, Better Ginsburg and this past week. In Texas and Am Kit Alabama, ass, with making. Welcome back to version

to everyone out there in the online audience. There are a lot of people in this room here at Texas, aunt em, and there are many many more of you out there in online audience. I think actually senator, because of this magnificent athletic victory by taxes? I m that just happened. We we ought to focus. a little bit about sports because some of the biggest cultural battles right now in the entire political scene, actually Oliver and sport will. Most importantly, let me ask you: where, were you Saturday night on the historic night I you know I was. If I'm, I want to have a cool answer, I was at home, I was just at home. Where were you senator I was here watching a spectacular analogue it. It's easy in hindsight to claim it, but I can tell you I told several bodies go anywhere. I said: look I think

that the Aggies have a real chance. It been tough couple of weeks. Tough. Losses, pray and am, Alabama was on top of the world there like a protein everyone thought thought back there we're gonna win, they were overconfident and they would play any here at home in Kyle feel it was dangerous from the opening kick off. The Aggies word dominates. Eddie was Tat killer and and and watching everyone storm the field at the ends How many people here storm the field? By the way I saw the officers at first they were trying to stop people, they push people back and then they just said: ask that we keep our skies, but the one thing they did is they stood around the goalposts. There were six or seven guys that looked like the offensive line, the Texans

They're, like whatever you do, you pull the goalposts down so so that they succeeded in in holding off but it. But it was spectacular. And I was with some friends who look down and and said something colorful that I'm gonna edit and make p g ok, but The comment as we look to tens of thousands of students on on on the field was not. Months from that now there may be a whole lot of babies born winning is a great aphrodisiac. I've heard, I suspect it was a good Saturday night. You know unhealthy, senator, I'm hoping that there is a political lesson here that sometimes you're up against. wanting odds. It seems like there is this german and to call it a ruling class and you from the great land of freedom. You have no way to fight back and then sometimes you score a big victory in. I think that's what we all hope will happen

Conservatives who have suffered a string of devastating losses but still hold out a lot of hope you're, seeing actually that spirit of freedom right now being kept alive by some professional ass it's in the face of these rights, Cole, Joe Biden, mandates that look. I gotta say right now that that that Cairo, Irving, maybe one of the most important people in the face the planet right now, if you think about what he's doing he's. Taking a stand against force. vaccination mandates and he's doing it at real cost me we're Talkin, a hundred million dollars or more- that he's putting at risk look you and I are our gambling- a hundred million dollars out another. There is anyone here that has been willing to say I care about principle enough, that I'll give away a hundred million dollars and not play and and there ever been a more profoundly hypocritical,

and revealing a reaction than the media's reaction is Cairo. Urbanists is taking this stand the entire corporate media is crucial. Him like he is Darth Vader they attacking him. Their demonizing him night and day to the exact opposite cholera operating right when he drew To a aid during the national anthem He was, he was a saint Mary. This year we will. He was Martin Luther King and by the way he made what tens of millions of dollars for doing so and got Hosanna everywhere, and it was very profitable and at that point he couldn't throw a football to save his life. carry urban that and can play ball. Will you know they can dribble? Ok, I'm one of the like six people on planet earth that saw the movie uncle Drood and ABC Uncle, drew

That guy can, is, I told you, the sector viable, but Shack visited Chris Weber. Isn't it but but Cairo could dribble like crazy ISA, a ballplayer and by the way, he's on the net with Katy and hardened and by the way that as a rocket span, that is very painful. That hardened, up there with them, but he's putting it all on the line and what is it say? Yes, Pierre is a giant corporation that is left is advocates organization for the hard left of the Democratic Party and they are flooding the zone. Every show on ESPN is what a villain Cairo Urban is because willing to sacrifice himself because he says it's not right that people are fired because they don't want to get back. you and I we flew down Wisconsin here today when I was on the plane, I was on United a flight attendant

me aside. She said you know what I'm one of the United employs who's, not gonna, get vaccinated. She said I ve been united twenty nine years, while I'm getting ready to get fired. Kyrie. Irving is fighting for her that courage and the media. Spectacle was rather too really really important points. One is when you are speaking truth to power very often pound, unlike it the power to like it, and so when everyone was saying that column Capper Nicky's, this great lone voice, speak interests to power of single ruling power was applauding him courage in him and giving him more fame and more money, because he wasn't speaking truth to power, he was, he was a tool of the dominant role class line kind the Irving genuinely speaking with the power, and the second point- and this this, I think, is a keen observation Everyone is looking at this story about Cairo Irving, as if it's about public health or it's just

bout mandates? Are it's just about government power, its assent, hurry. As you say about the media. and the media's dishonesty? And, frankly, the way the media has have lied about this kind about this issue. It shows you what an important and he's making a look. It is when you EL the powerful what they want to hear it makes them happy. It's also not courage, it's when you tell them what they don't ah here that's when they sensor you that's when they shut you down and that's when they demonize you the degree to which, in one of the things that I never understood about the media, I used to think five six years ago that the U turn on the tv you watch some host. an end there there's some lefty host in their say and ridiculous things in here like oh, what a jerk What I didn't understand, I don't blame the talent anymore.

The SAR media companies are controlled by the quarter office. Is the network executives that make a decision gifts at sea and air makes a decision blood the zone. This the message and free host echoes? that message- and I guarantee you that is happening it. He s p and the word has gone out pound Cairo Irving, because he's dare disagree with the corporate orthodox right. Of course, and you're seeing this increasingly we ve always known, as you say, that these new network, sometimes they seem like jerks. Sometimes they get the story wrong. Maybe you chalk up to just an accident, but they'd never knowingly lie no. Never they would never do that and then and and what happened this week- and this was amazing- it's not just left on right dishonour. Stay. It's not just the left wing, media law, about conservatives, the left wing media? even lie about their left wing icons when the law, doing icons disagree

with the agenda- and you saw this week with Katy Correct, in an interview that she had with, our be G: Ruth Baker, Ginsburg, the fetid iconic notorious army g Katy, corrects idea, arbitrary, said something I didn't like so she's an old Betty Loon, and I took it out we're only slightly baron raising that's what is even worse than that. So twenty sixteen Katy correct. interviewing Ruth, better Ginsburg, and It's better Ginsburg. She ass its when cholera outbreak is doing his his kneel down a she asked rules better Ginsburg. What do you think about it? and she said, I think it shows contempt. For the government that has given him all the freedoms we have in this country. and that was news. This was a big deal. We were having a national argument. This is a sainted lion of the left. And Katy Kirk realised a crap. This is not the narrative that that that My propagandist want me to push.

So what did she do? She just edited out, and she didn't edited out, because it wasn't news She entered it out because it was rice and she said I want to protect Ruth Baker. Ginsburg, that's what you use protector from our side, from herself from not being woke enough because Katy Kirk and the media will say this does matter how lefty you are. If you're not woke enough for the immediate minute you They will ratio and by the way it broke today, David Brooks another appeal in columnist. The New York Times such a supposedly sort of conservative columnist well our Haiti correct, called David, Broken said: hey what should I do? It's better Ginsburg just said that that that kneeling during the national anthem shows contempt for the country and then rocks at all. You need to edit that out no no, no, that's not the message. The old gray lady is trying to push. This is,

they're, not journalists. They are professional. liars and by the way lie is not too hard, hearted term, because A story that just broke this week is is Joe Rogan had happened, In our view, a cast. Joe Rogan Tell us about what this was the most magnificent interview, I've seen and quite some time. in fact, Michael City was so impressed he's going to shape its head like road. I was thinking about it, I'm gonna take up and then- and I don't know he smokes things that I don't know. If I stick to cigars, ok, I try not to go far pass that, but Here's the story that you heard because we're talking about the difference between the gray lady, all the news that spit to print all the news that fits the narrative, which is what the left really pushes. So was the story you saw in the mainstream media. crazy, kooky right wing radical Joe Rogan is so paranoid about corona virus that he ate whore. De Warmer to pay

act himself against the Wolf Lou by the way you're at an end. They get a lot of folks that they know about. I know about horses, cattle wrong, and we really say so now so now. The only problem with this story is that it was, politely. One hundred percent falls the eye that I respect and is horse dealer. It's like calling aspirin whore medicine- they make aspirin for horses. That's not what I take when I have a headache. They make for humans. I've reaction has been used to treat many many humans for quite a long time. Actually the manner discovered at one another Bell prize. So it's it's A well established drug- all, I repeat, cuz. That's a fascinating fact something media had a week long.

Orgy of disinformation, kind of like on that football field with the game. I turn on the failure at Berkeley, but but for a week the work, bigwigs, the corner offices said the message of the day is either action is bad in any Opel who is taking. It is taking horse de warmer and every station pounding over and over and over again and Joe Rogan girl. That's got a hundred million dollars. I made the The interview is spectacular: cuz he's got yellow CNN's CNN top doktor on Sancho Gupta eddies like. Why did you guys say this? This is crap it is literally been given to over one billion people worldwide, be one billion people worldwide, the

the discover the inventor won the Nobel Prize for discovering it be held up scrub, should he said. Look a doctor proscribed this not a veterinarian die a human doktor risk ride this for me, and it was really striking it's worth watching this interview, because sundry goop is like. I will not change the subject over here. Oh look, shiny object, look squirrel and Rogan. Wouldn't let him get away with it, and I think it is really an important lesson for all of us here on this. These Rogan said: does bother you that your network lied about this and said I took a worthy worm or when I obviously Didn'T- and he says well, maybe you shouldn't ok, let's try to move on, he says no do does that make you feel a little concerned that you're network lied isn't well. I didn't see that because you're, the top medical doctor, what do you mean you didn't hear? The largest ones lied repeatedly. Jim Acosta was the first and they said over and over and over again and and I'll tell

interesting story. So the New York Times a few months ago was doing this kind of big feature piece on Texas and how Texas is changed and end. Porters Capitol Hill reporter it came up and talk to me, and he said you know: hey we'll talk about taxes and- and I gave a quote I said: Texas is no longer just home, oil and gas wildcatters war now also home to Tesla and Joe Roca,. so the New York Times report or use the quote, but only the fur half of it? So it's actually it's the final, quoting a story which is crews text, it is no longer just toned oil and gas wildcatters period me just end. The quote. And so what so? I saw the reporter Jonathan Martin is a name everyone causing game, and I saw us a game

How are you doing? That was a money quote you like and here was a comment. It was fascinating. He said New York times. Readers dont know who Joe Rogan is. Really and- and I gotta say what it sounded to me like he didn't say. sounds to me like he included the full quote in the story. Editor editor out. The second part right because they didn't like that message and it's an example whether its than times are CNN, listen, CNN, top brass audience. questions. They claim to be journalists, Why did they repeatedly and deliberately lie over and over and over again same thing? Eighty corrected the press. lies and and Post Donald. They hate crop so much that they do to the lie right with the report:

Our democracy is at stake and we get loggers right. We will lie right journalism. journalism dies in darkness and work testing that, because the journalists have plunged us into dark yup, you no one problem that conservatives have had. Is problem that you're describing witches investigative journalism is expensive. It loses money or time and it is subsidized by left wing who are pushing their stories. So very often the case of news outlets or, truly using left wing reporting, because there are good where borders at the New York Times. They are actually good reporters at the Washington Post. There so many good editors. There aren't so many good executives and those are the guys we're really deciding what stories go in what story stay out and had a twist stories and mess up your quotes. But somebody borders can be pretty good race. May we are beginning to fight back against this there. There,

a story that just broke- and I want to bring out a special guest to discuss this. There was a story that it's actually- I hate to do our own horn, but you know I guess I'll do it. I don't know you, don't hardly Lunnon, hates corn That's going on my bio now so that the daily wire just broke a major major news story, which is that in loud in county, there is all you see, story. I set in in a loud and counting a girl, young girl, suffered a vicious mobile sexual attack in rolls bathroom from a guy who is apparently gender bending and will sometimes where a skirt and story is pretty clear there dangerous to letting boys and girls room- and this is something that anyone to brain cells. To rub together knows but the media and the ruling class won't let anybody saying there actually,

censoring people now, there's censoring our friends even greater because he just read the latter. We bring it, bring out our guest and we'll talk about all right. We ve got a special guessed. You may have heard of her She is the host of the lives we sure she is the a wonderful new partner of Young America's foundation has her own yeah tour coming. She, I guess I kind of gave away the answer. Did not our friend like Wheeler-

We again rusted marxist ideology. Big tat is essentially using left, leaning organizations who claimed to sign like anybody who disagrees with their radical leftist ideology. They tell us tat if we don't do something. We don't past the green new deal that our earth is going to die in twelve years. Thanks to the Arctic would no longer enjoy ice if they ve got in every single thing wrong. Why would we believe that this is our opportunity? Why would we like that? Go if you lackeys hypocritical, tyrannical politician taken and even with the excuse of an emergency, they will take a mine, so let them take nothing from period wanting to read one right now so far more. Thank you. It's great to have you here. You got a lot going on, so I'm glad you could make time for us. You ve got the new show. You ve got the new partnership with yeah. You ve got the new baby. I guess that's a pretty big one

and now you ve started to be here were thick and launching the new show. We launched it May the lids Wheeler show we're about sixty episodes in and you know, torture. The mainstream media on in the lives threw open. The fact is reminds me of my gosh soldiers. we really wanted to bring you ask is that you follow this story pretty closely. There been a lot of problems in loud in county, even even beyond this, but I think this story really highlights the problem and act. they just today, the Washington post them Mainstream media had been silent about it. The Washington post was forced to publish a story about this reporting, which it really was from the conservative group. some! So what happened in I'm counting haven't allowed county is unfortunately, what's been happening across the country and that is those who claim to care about. Women are ignoring the safety and security of biological women. When it comes to the issue of transgender bathrooms or gender neutral bathrooms,

busily those in laughter worried about being called transfer back, and so they don't point out the fact that No women are women, meaning biological women are women and we want privacy and locker rooms. We want privacy in the bathrooms and when you open it up to these gender neutral policies than what happens is some terrible creeps. Some pervert some predators take advantage of that amount, open in allowing county what happened in loud and counties, the instituted, a transgender bathroom policy. And a ninth grade girl was raped by a man allegedly wearing a skirt in a gender neutral bathroom, and because this was a very hot button topic. The translator bathrooms at this in this particular school district, of course, because we all have our eyes on loud and county day. The school essentially trying to cover it up. They denied that it happened, even though they suspect is going to plead guilty to assume sexual assault charges. They tried to cover it up on complete. They tried to silence the parent, who is exposing us. It's really truly terrible all because they didn't.

want to stand up for what because it contradicts their transgender narrative. What will lose when you, when you say they tried to silence the parent? I mean it's not like that they arrested him or anything they did arrest him. Always eight o clock why would anyone arrest apparent that? Don't make any sense here that then this is maybe one of the most interesting parts of this sort of one of the most corrupt parts. This story, because the father you might be familiar with the father involved in a story. You remember that video that went around from Loudon County of the father he's a bold guy. He was very irate. He was an arrest scenario, Reuben Vision soon enough soon enough they will. But now you think they arrested him and dragged him out of the school board meeting and he became you know labelled by the left, the poster child of what the left wants to say or angry republican parents who are opposed critical race theory, transgender policy in school. They arrested him in the prosecutors actually trying to form in jail, even though at most this would be a misdemeanor. It mean you're, the prosecutor here, probably

be anything meanwhile, the suspects who allegedly rape this girl went back to school and coming another offence, another sexual assault and who will try to deny the whole thing to parents? So I went to unpack this because I think this this is shocking and shameful, and it captures an awful lot, what is happening number one. You have a predator who allegedly rate a teenage girl in the bathroom. A biological man who went in wearing a skirt and rate this little girl, the fight There was, understandably, the father of the girl was understandably really pissed off, because the school didn't report at the school covered it up. The school was not acknowledging so the father went to school board meeting, and and I want you to think for a second- if you're the father of a girl who's been raped at school, you would be horrified, you would be pissed and

the school was covering it up. He had me say what the hell is wrong with you. Pe you'd be you'd, be turning over tables and what we are seeing here, too scandals, obviously the in scandal the crime that allegedly took place. But then, as you mentioned, this extra scandal- of the school board covering it up because that sort of an incident doesn't fit the narrative. What we are told by the ruling classes men going into the girls room, never opposes any threat whatsoever and reality just happens to contradict but it's even worse, because then the corruption folds in upon itself, because when this but in the father, is outraged and expresses its outrage. He gets arrested and he then gets held up as as the poster child of and gets accused of being a domestic terrorist and incidents like this turning general of the United States under Joe Biden, Mary Garland points to him and other parents who are on

happy about, what's being taught to our kids, about the nonsense and art schools and and Joe Biden, Ernie general calls that dad and other parents who are pissed off calls them domestic terrorists. Are you get the government going after parents trying to protect their king and you get the media, curing it all in blackness and and- and I wanted to pause and say something that you said to begin with- look the facts of a violent sexual assault on but that's news. That's real news! It won the Washington Post, the broken it wasn't New York Times that broke into one c. and are ABC or CBS. It was the daily wire, because it raises the question you know from all of the stories we ve been discussing. They ve got this. men thread Netscape got this threat of the media lying covering things up, distorting things, and so

very few rightwing organizations do any kind of investigative work because of structural challenges? So if just this one organization with just this one rapporteur uncover just this one, major major news story: why else's out there. That is not being reported on that is being actively suppressed. What else do we, as conservatives have won, and I gotta say it is a powerful thing? Look. I love everyone at the daily. Why and I spent a lot of time with you guys his solitary likes best. You know, I don't know why. Ben Shapiro slanders you so much you know

in an arm wrestling match? You'd take been two out of three to thank you very much. What look you know the daily wires headquarters in L? A gambling should understand. This is not some media conglomerates with a skyscraper. This is Basically, six guys in a ban. It used to be an important ally. It started in a full house and actually started in a bullet and then started about Hausa. Ok by the New York Times is already running out other there right now. You guys are now in Nashville, so you fled loony town and in any case to America we wanted them to come to tat. We actually made a heart attack.

We know why, in a way, I didn't come, because all my axes live in Texas, which was excuse myself. Proof story. Michael had never heard that, and so when, when he moved to Nashville broadcast on verdict, I pull out my phone and played all my actions lived and live in taxes. And what do I do? He was fascinated me like that's why my adversary disease, like yes, and that that that is, I think, what's gonna, be the focus here. What conservatives have first in recent years I mean they, they ve kind of always known, but they really seen it is that The media are not just skewed, they are the opposition party, they are the apparatus of the left and they are the group that need

to be undermined. They dont have credibility, they dont have authority and we need to build those institutions and do it ourselves, which I guess is the purpose of this podcast. It's the purpose of the less wheeler showed the purpose of coming to campuses all around the country and its. Why we get. speak directly to people who are or being lied to. You know it is an interesting comment that one of the reasons why you're saying the rise of alternative means of communication is because the media so corrupt. You don't see in it. Then ratings have dropped their getting about. Eight hundred thousand viewers show I mean it. pitiful an end to give a sense. Look this podcast. We started this podcast last year with weeks verdict. Became the number one rank pod cast in the world,

beating Joe Road and I ain't, you take a shot, you know, but you got us again and again and we ve had over thirty million downloads since we started doing this. This is a powerful tool we get for a given episode. Yesterday, we had a hundred thousand people live streaming, we did when we were up at university, Wisconsin Madison we'll get our on an episode anywhere from two hundred fifty thousand two five, six hundred thousand people downloading a particular episode, This podcast is nearly up to see it ends ratings. That's a little ridiculous, given that its us, our chairs, are carpet friend the cap. Yes, yes, and don't you think one of the reasons for that too, is that it used to be that conservative media was somewhat of a new trade that people who really wanted good reporting people who want to good analysis. Good commentary would go to more right, leaning websites, but then the last four or five years we ve seen

the media organisations that used to claim to be non partisan. They used to claim to be straight news. They don't even they don't even try pretend that they're, not by Sunday morning. We saw that during the election we sought. hunter by laptop story. We sought with a Russia collusion, storing husbandman until after the Russians have now it was a russian laptop right. It had to be bad because Silicon Valley prevented any one from even tweeting it shut down. The New York posed for two weeks over it's a clearly it was fake right must have said Fagin Sticker on the back in a hundred binds defence. He doesn't have the laptop anymore, ok thing a few times actually, but but I think this. This point is really important and actually getting to these other people we ve been talking about when we mentioned Rogan, but Cairo, Irving and increasingly a lot of other people. I dont think that Cairo, moving is some rock ribbed conservative, Joe Odin was a Bernie brought

there are a lot of people who may be they don't check everything I gotta pee. That said Joe Rogan in. Worst Bernie Sanders for president today when we already have so much he's, not woken up, they'll still slander, here, as as taking a horse to warm Ville, still go after Ruth Vader, but when she goes off the scripts, and so I do think you know to your point- lives when and your points under when you're getting hundreds of hundreds of thousands of people, a million people, perhaps on on episodes of so called alternative media. Why is that? It's? Because It's not just the handful of can record conservatives it's because a lot of people with common sense and common decency who have maybe but heterodox muse and dissent from the left wing establishment. They just want the truth out of use couple of weeks ago. I was one of the left, leaning organizations I care, member of it plant parenthood remedies list, or one of these things they tweeted out a quote from Ruth, Better Ginsburg

a quote about women. and they edited out the word women They like removed women from Ruth, better Ginsburg quote and made it persons be has apparently you're not allowed to say women like by the way. This is look that day, vote of candles on Ruth Paine or Ginsburg and they are editing. Her statements were being insufficiently well postmortem. Will you know they set so that when they did that the line? Ruth Bitter Ginsburg said was reproductive choice is essential to a woman's right and health and safety, and they may change that woman's right to people. right, so you get all of these, be all of those other birthing people who aren't when then, I guess I just saw- I gotta tell you two weeks ago: it has set it you to share Committee, hearing Corey Booker and get Cory's a friend. These actually he's a good guy. He was talking in each talking to some see. Spamming is alive public hearing that it makes a reference to think it makes a reference to mothers

and then he stops and corrects himself and says I mean birthing people and I would have to him afterwards in the Senate, for like dude, really like really are european Will that nuts saying mothers. It is like on it. After below. I won't say what he said. Is that our keep his comments private, but. Why have something to say to him? I gave birth eight months ago and I can assure you I'm birthing person, I'm a woman and to see this rain, I mean first, we had radical feminism right and which was of the man hating strain, and now we have this new strain of workers and that's actually trying to a raised the very essence of woman. What I mean it ties entered allowed in county story. How You know they're, saying well vial

women really count? Anybody who identifies woman maybe wears a skirt counts as a real woman and are doing the same thing with those of us who give birth women. I mean what could be more fundamental to being a woman than your ability to create new life and give birth to that life, and now, apparently, that's not good enough for the work. You know I was there when, when Heidi gave birth to both our daughters, I gotta say I don't like there's a man on the planet that could go. I said in my husband when my daughter was maybe five or six weeks old. It was right at the time that there is that hospital in the UK that was telling nurses to call it chest beating and human millet, and I suggested to him about three or four m that maybe he try out the chest. Feeding turns out that it is not possible. I was really the Robber Deniro Movie where's, the sea region, eighties. You know anyway,

anything with with nipples. You can milk and he says I have Nepal's: can you build forget it in Europe would be its money. Python I mean there's. Actually this is a money by thugs get. I remember when, when my baby was born almost at the same time, two days is today's report. I wanted to be really old school. I don't even want to be in the room. I wanted to be downstairs in the lobby, hoping cigarettes like a guy from the fifties you know, I'd is only tell me you were, and I was gilded into being in the european area of ample. They hear that it is a rather bulls tat killer, like wholly rap moments like giving birth. Look like I wanted to go home and tell my mom. Thank you like isolated. After does, how did you do that five times: no, Actually, this is a little bit of a hard said way, but I don't want to miss the opportunity here, because

You know my baby being my child. He is a little bit of the italian persuasion and you reference to settle just persuaded downright the day is downright. Can I I cannot but notice. You mentioned certain famous italian are you might even call it an italian American at the top of the show, a man that we were all supposed to celebrate this week, a man who I was told when I was a little boy, discovered America and a man whose name we are no longer allowed, even to mention Mr Christopher Columbus Samuel. Now is something like you so much, I gotta say number one. That was a very natural saying: where is it

as our wives, birth, children, so Columbus, new work. That's why use the senator and on the bottom gas, but this I actually you think this ties in with the education issues that ties in with the lies from the media, because Christopher Columbus, who again, we celebrated Columbus Day use a great american hero. He discovered America now is considered one of the worst villains in the history of the world who stature I have to be torn down and whose whose memory has to be erased. How does that This is not a subway, but you can see Senator Elizabeth Warren tweeted on Colombia Steak. Tell me

the indigenous trampled on its ourselves. Ladies, you want fears, one one thousand and thirty second correct, very fair minded credit where credit is due. It also Frankly, this ties and even to the idea that Elizabeth Warren she lies for her whole career. She pretends to be an indian. She goes about. Her lie a water, you know prancing around and then she gets called out for it and then just poof as though nothing had she's, nothing to say here. She has the audacity to say: happy indigenous Peoples, Davis woman was made a career lying about being an indian she's. The widest woman ever walked the face of the earth, but it, but it doesn't matter because the only body sought episode of the loan Ranger clearly then qualifies as you did. That's true that

What began her love affair with mask scene over supported masking was from the loan rain, so you're saying she just puts it runs in IRAN spot. I will tell you, as as just a quick aside. That's that's relevant to nothing. you don't Nancy policy has as a mass mandate the house and Dan Crenshaw congressmen from Texas

I told you tat. He should tell Nancy he's already wearing the mask over his eyes and he heard them ass coming any really. That's that's our on preserving real, not the filthy, voucher cloth affords actual Amerika. Yes, it does, but I think you know that this will it all comes down to with the Columbus issue is kind of being seen read all these other stories Columbus, at least in my understanding, stands for America haste an embodiment of western civilization and away, Bout me, religious, intrepid self, made doggedly determined willing to explore uncharted territory, bring the gospel ring civilization to a new land. He is a man and so the left hates, is God

so we got a couple experts here and listen. One of the reasons why I think people like verdict why this subscribed verdict where they listened a verdict, is they learn things. They learn things that that that are helpful when they're talking friends when their talk in a family when their engage, in the back and forth of life. So so help me on this? I want to ask both of you. If I here is my girls here it go every year that Chris four Columbus was a murdering genocidal, evil psychopath, whose slaughtered the native Americans spray Deadly Disease and should be viewed with with shame and horror. What faxes that narrative leaving out. Ladies first, Oh thank you. I don't mind if I do. Ok, the genocide trope here. This is factually incorrect, so there about twenty million NATO, cons living in North America in fourteen ninety two, when Columbus discovered, are our wonderful nation and, tragically,

ninety five percent of them did die in the centuries following Columbus, landing and United States, but they did not die. you know I wouldn't give up ready. He landed in the Caribbean, he found it actually much nicer lambs, you know, but then obviously, a lot of other explorers came to these lands and right yes, there. Obviously disease spread. That's what I'm just saying I now migrant I've, a friendly competition about who doesn't Us Christopher Columbus backs this isn't a year s long friendly. So you're aware of what's going on here, but disease, yes, but into your point. What sort of genocide. Are we talking about when we're still indigenous people arriving there. crystal descendants. There was a lot of intermarriage between the Spaniards and the native peoples, some where their atrocities committed. Of course, there's no question about that, but the. But let's start with the simple fact that that

if your measuring, whether someone is good or evil culpability matters. If you deliberately murder someone that is far more culpable than if you have a car accident and accidentally take a light in the case of Christopher Columbus and the explorers, is it true that they had germs and diseases that that? were not present in in North Amerika. Yes did they know what a germ want right now witless fourteen ninety two we're going, they had no idea what a germ isn't it. If your measuring comparability, too, carrying invisible things that you don't know exists that unbeknown to you cause disease is a tragic outcome, but not one, for wit, You can reasonably blame him.

As having made any decision to cause. It also happened literally years and years and years after he was here that wasn't even something that you know hebrew This was a legacy and its tragic for sure. It's an act of God. If you will its nature its you, no help terms, but it's not truly committed genocide. the accusations against this character? I actually find this in a quite amusing. It's a little bit of reflective of our current time. I think there was a thesis if you will written about Christopher Columbus, that maligned his character and it was written by a man named Francisco De Bob Medea, my butcher I am a little bit, but that's my spanish, but it's ok! It's ok! You're, going out your their names are just as long as it's not man was Columbus's chief political rights. so the equivalent now would be like if Hillary Clinton wrote that history about Donald Trump presidential campaign will certainly obsolete. We won That's where we get this idea, that's what's hot, in schools right now that Christopher Columbus at the terrible character based on

what was written by his chief political rival, that's not exactly an attitude you have history. By the way there were other accounts from the times, and they it's not as though there just a geographies. They paint the realities of what happened, but one, for instance, by Bartholemy jealous cause us the first resident bishop of the Americas considered one of the greatest defender in history of the native Americans ass, but but Dylan causes remained an admirer of Columbus papers, entire life and Carol Delaney, whose Columbus historian from Stanford she points out that much of what Columbus's used of doing there were murmurs. There was enslavement. There was war crimes committed by other people In fact, by politicians who outfoxed Columbus and in many cases Columbus was the one only four leniency and trying to have a more humane policy. I will tell you guys, you're, both new parents your kids get over. Our girls are our ten and thirteen and they start Belinda. wars, and even in Houston, Texas. That that day engage in this propaganda?

and listen when I sit down with my girls, I show member fourth grade, my eldest daughter came home with her friend said: o Christopher Columbus is is evil and genocide allows like genocide. That's a big word. What and I sat down and said: look I'm not vested in convincing you crystal Columbus's? The greatest man do ever live. I don't have a particular dog in that fight, but but I, ask. I said you know we do have a federal holiday name Columbus Day, We typically name federal holidays after genocidal maniacs. Do we have a pol pot day Milosevic. Today you remain always that's my favorite guest of you know tat. We have a stolen damning. Just did that that ought to pause for a second and make you think we're ok, Presumably someone saw something of value. to make it a federal how and in what is done

saying about in case routine. of education in colleges and universities in media in journalism. Is there telling a narrative and in Europe reaction on this Michael, I think, was really important because you said Christopher Columbus, whether you hate Columbus's apply see for whether you hate America and when this was really struck. Me was last year at Thanksgiving when my girls came with her friends. They were saying thanksgiving. It is another holiday celebrates the pilgrims oppressing the Indians? I'm like what hey. What thanksgiving is that now it s not And in and let me be clear, look when I wasn't school: did they teach? little bit of a sanitized history. Probably what were their trust, it is an end, murderers and and horrible mistreatment of native Americans. Undoubtedly. But it wasn't one sided. Let that there were also

You know I love asking lefties, a simple question. You know tell me from whence derives the verb to scout. Right but like we know what this word means an end It was warfare and conquest, and so people on both sides did things that we're not greater. If you want to teach history, It works in all that's great, but the thing Gunderson and about those that want to teach Columbus was evil and those who want to teach Thanksgiving was evil. What they're really vested in teaching is that the West settlement of the new world, the founding of the United States, the declaration of independence, the constitution, all of those were bad all of those were a force for evil. This was a nation that that that again with evil that is perpetrated evil ever since, and and and I dont know that there is a proposition on the face of the planet, I did

three with more America, has been the greatest force for good in the history of the world. This is such a good point because you hit on something here when you mentioned that the Indians they could they could fight pretty hard to. I think diminishes the name the indigenous peoples when we pretend that they are just past of creatures and enables Aberdeen almost I mean you know you into a patronising the lap use them in this patronising view instead of like they were human being yet we're good people in bad people and people caught between you know one Columbus arrived at San Salvador, very religious man named the island. He landed, send Salvador he at the time you know, people who were by all accounts are very amiable. Lovely people and they invented cigar. So I have a particular assaults by foreign, so so encounters the tiny people. Some of the time you know had scars on their bodies there.

cars on their bodies because of another indigenous peoples, the care of people from whom we get the word cannibal. They were cannibals. They bread, babies to be eaten and its well attested to. Historically, there was ritual cannibalism in North America, with the Iroquois, the the stack, civilization, slaughtered. Eighty thousand people in four days by ripping a beating heart set of their chests to their gods that they were worshipping. Now not saying just as you point out that all of us, people were awful interblended, terrible things, and I am also not saying like the left us that they were all the most wonderful innocent people in the world merely passive victims of the west. I think much more respectful to say their people. There were people and they lived in cultures. those cultures have bad ideas in some had good ideas, and we, who are here today, regardless of the morality of any of these men. We our civilization to them. We

Our country to them deal like America deal like being here in this relay that we're all in well, then, maybe have a little gratitude to you for fathers, but instead we stand on their shoulders. Think I want to talk about the numbers all night. I want to die and defend America, but we should get a simplistic yeah. I guess I do question an answer now oh yeah, you do all right. So the rules again, you guys, are familiar with this. Nobody crowd in the aisle ever. Question has to be a one part question not achieve our question, not a three part question. It has to be in question form. you can start lining up behind the microphone. To do that's a question on the incursion form. Can someone stand up and say you're a miserable, also be? Aren't you Does that? Yes, but you will have to answer if they just checking

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I'm I'm not a circular sandals, I'm worried about what Michael's answers to be, not only when I know we're sexual sandals. I would know we're socks with loafers, I'm very aunt. I sought it's, not I'm a northeastern, no sucks, that's it we're take. You are literally wearing. I saw what. Why would with Oxford Shoes OPEC's last lightning on caution? Then we're gonna get said the controversial staff. Are it what's your favorite book. Look, it's tried to say the Bible, but that you you'd have to start with that. at my shrugged- is amazing- go the Bible and then at least you can have more than one in one word. For that incentives. That's a good answer. Ok, we're saying the Bible. Is that what I am saddened? Second favorite I give you one novel and one nonfiction the editor crime and punishment

I know, I'm gonna get you really esoteric answer: poetic, diction by Owen BAR field, If you haven't read at which I suspect not a single person in this room has not, and I wanted people about it- it's a great book you should get rid of. I'm gonna lose five dollars because I thought it was an essay on book. whilst speechless. Ladies and gentlemen on ok before we get your question and answer a big round of applause, please for the Americas Foundation for putting autism hearing about the moment life. Thank you to all the families who is always to below the family, supported these tourists throughout the years. Wonderful, wonderful and I notice that Michael lives is already more professional than you, and I like we're doing this thing, and we didn't even get around to thanking your hosts and our sponsor. It's, like you know,

Thank you for class and up the jersey. She does my pleasure, my pleasure at my honour to be here already regarding the questions so separate up here on first introduce yourself and if you want to address your question specifically to the senator, to Michael or to me, go ahead and address it directly. What's your name, howdy, I'm being granted from collar station taxes, and my question is: will the senator senator crews Your training is in the law, and so my question is what is the most important case in your opinion of the first half of the twentieth century, first, half of the twentieth century all right? That's that's, a tough that you just excluded Brown versus Board of Education, which was one thousand nine hundred and fifty four. I don't have a good answer for first half of the 20th century

Tell you a strange thing about how my brain, how I remember things I don't member dates I'm terrible days. it was when I was cloaking for chief justice renquist. It was interesting, brain. Like everything. was filed chronologically. In a way that, if you mentioned you know nineteen, seventy seven, he had this perfect recall happen and seventy seven every case that occurred. What was happening where and when it was. It was a remarkable thing and what was cool about it? So I work for him. He'd been on the court for twenty five years and he would think of a case for those of you all some may be in law school, so maybe thinking of law school, you have a case, that's a name, you know Smith versus Jones and you think a bit is a case that stands for some legal proposition for the chief. It was a memory and he would be like. Oh yes, Smith versus Joe

that was the case, worse Thurgood wanted to do such shut, but what didn't agree with him on that and he was literally remembering the conference where they discuss the case and so that, but for a reason, my brain is terrible at tagging. Things based on dates. So that's a lousy answer to a great question Well, let me do it quick, followed tonight, because I know you haven't right answer for this. If we're talking twenty first century and what do you think is the most important case that is shaped, ongoing legal precedent from the constitutional perspective that we ve seen you know in the past twenty years the past twenty years, I would say there are a couple of cases that were were really put pivotal number one. Is the Obama case?

but Obamacare case where Chief Justice Roberts really flipped on everything that that that he believes in knows and and John Robert is somewhat I've known twenty five years. He was also a rank, was clear he's an amazingly talent, litigator. He was He was the best Supreme Court litigator of his generation and when the first Obama CARE Asian came down. John made, I think a very cynical decision to make a political decision and inside member reading the opinion and it was. It was a remarkable opinion where the first eighty percent of the opinion is fantastic. It's a challenge to bomb care and and all of the jurists. Prudential rulings on the commerce clause where he can Foods that Congress doesn't have the authority under the commerce clause to to force people to purchase health insurance. On the spending clause

all of these rulings are really strong. Solid, principled at the very end, he has a sleight of hand where defines a tax. a penalty rather as a tax, and he says what Obama, described as a penalties as well? If we just call it attacks, then it's ok. and the law said repeatedly? It's not attacks the Obama repeatedly. It's not attacks the Congress and repeatedly it's not attacks and all This has to do with this little sleight of hand magically. He upheld it and been widely reported is: is that that he initially voted with what was then the majority of the court to strike down the law, and then he changed his vote and flipped and an eye So I think that started John Roberts down path. He knew what he was doing he's too good a lawyer. This was not that you screwed up This was an end. Looked given the benefit of the doubt. I think he thought he was

preserving the the cork from a political battle, but it will go down as one of the most political decisions in the history of the kind This isn't that the irony that in in trying to keep the court above politics, he thrust the court more into politics, It had been in decades if ever and ever since then he's done it repeatedly. It was. You know when you start giving up your principles a little bit. It's a very quick slippers, Slow, but he has now been doing it over and over and over again. You know, since Michael got a book I'd be an idiot mighty near get a last book. I wrote it called one vote away, how a single Supreme Court seek and change history and end. The book goes through. Critical constitutional rights. Each chapter tells war stories about the court and so on. talk about John Roberts. Quite a bit, I talk about the Obamacare case. I too

about other decisions? And I take people inside those conference rooms that that renquist would talk about about how the major decisions protecting free speech- acting religious liberty protecting the second amendment or All of those decisions are five before that we're one vote away from either losing our liberties or preserving rank to be choose to be a poetic, is still a political decision and just like to choose to be an atheist is still a religious decision, and John Roberts should know better. You shouldn't you should understand, and he does know better than that. That's the thing that makes its partner. I think so. Ok, we gonna get to the next question, or else we're going to be debating Supreme Court until dawn. Please above and introduce yourself high rank jerk. not only would you briefly model the third further for the crab that's right so I'm Jackson and

my question was kind about the loud and county thing because, like you know not Like our situation, will we also have a lot of crazies tough going in public schools like pornographic books in the library and stuff. Like that and I was just wondering, like like where most of us here, I think our students they go to these schools like what can we do What can we do something about that goes like those are our schools likely or take first crack at that, I think there are actually is quite a lot that you can do. I dont think that you're going to solve this problem by snapping, your fingers and frankly I dont you're even going to solve this problem. Is it over yet and we do it please, let's I works in now, Like we're like a beating poetry cafe or something which is what a lot of public small seem like these days. I dont think I also don't think that it's going to be one by pretending that a third grade class miss some free market place of ideas, that has never been the case, William.

Buckley Junior launched the modern conservative movement making fun of that radical view of academic freedom that pretends that teachers have the right to teach any manner of pornography or or obscene craziness that they want do they obviously don't have that right. I think the way that we begin to fix this is one students speak up and students should also speak to their parents and parents. You go speak to the school boards and you're sing it, notably in loud and county right now, you're, seeing at school boards around the country and its ordinary Americans of all stripes of all shapes of all purse. Asians. They are showing. and saying we do not want this stuff in our schools are so Are we going to educate students? They're gonna teach him that some things are true and some things are false and some are good and some are bad and we have a right to have a say over how our children are raised, especially What the schools are teaching is so often falls and evil.

And ugly and wrong and destructive for the individual and destructive for the country, and so the EU to assert that political right and learn this magical word. The conservatives have unknown very much recently, which is no no enough or not, and I haven't been too. I think before you get to the AIDS that your appearance and you're going to these school board meetings are you're running for school border, you're challenging what you're seeing your children's classroom. If you're a college student, the best thing that I think that you can do is get involved and get educated yourself on a personal level so that you are equipped to do this battle to be part of this culture war. So read as many books as you can educate yourself on all the issues learn the arguments of the other side so that you can debunk some

delve into your faith, find communities of like minded people make sure that you are preparing yourself to be contributing. Member of society of the community get married. Have children raise them to be good? student children who are Patria reading is always a strategy. It's a good. It's an effective strategy in abundance, The aunt em victory over album and I mean that's pretty much the conglomerate. That's a lot of advice. Well I'll say on this look I'd it varies depending on age and end. So what's appropriate in elementary school is very different from what's appropriate high school, you know as guests. kids? Get older kids get in high school, actually, a believer that more is better. So so I dont want folks going through the libraries and pulling out you know, you see,

pulling out like huckleberry fin because it contains language they deem offensive. Address kids, Rita variety of stuff that that good, bad and and more information and certainly should get the college part of it. Is School shouldn't be indoctrinated children, Education is about teaching, not ensuring that that that you subscribe to political view and in Europe when it comes the schools that that are putting you know, sir, surely, graphic pornography in in the curriculum in the libraries last I check high school kids. Don't the schools to be like, telling them sex exist like like they its. Out there I mean those basic. Yet you know I died. When I was in college, I went to Prince inaccurate data to girl from aunt em

very different campuses, but there was a popular sure at Princeton that said, sex kills and on the back and said, come to Princeton forever, on that note on before we get to your question on, because we have noticed that there is a half hanging on the cactus right here behind the senator. It's it's, I don't what it's doing there, but if you guys are interested in verdict, merge We have new verdict, marriage, you can go to verdict with ten proves dot com slashed shop and, if you use it we'll call live. Probably all have a little card on your seat, rightly that the use of we could live. You get ten percent off of our numerous sore and it's all kinds of what like cactus paraphernalia most.

cactus paraphernalia little bit with me and the senator, but mostly the aid already show really their faces aren't on american attack. This is updating them, so it's pretty call the little depressing. We ve been doing it for two years we ve been trying to like have some interesting content and be worth listening to, and we ve gotten Wheatley upstage by a succulent, because that's why I'm pays anybody on this that it began the shell where's your question directly to what is your name? Money was I'm flattered himself is Kansas. I'm a senior agricultural economic student here and I M, question is directed towards all three of your. What was the defining moment that made you decided. This is something that you wanted to do for the rest of your lives, politics, even so

This sounds like a comma Harris bogus answer, but if it's actually are you know, we'd Army wasn't why wasn't happening with similar momentarily similar? When I went away you can we pause and reflect that she hired child actors to come in light like hell? Does like I'm sorry, sir, on your formative moments, you know she said when she put out the video that was the moment. I decided to get out of politics that when I, when I was a little kid, I was like two or three years old. My grandfather taught me: it rains, I'm not joking we're embellishing He told me this race read my lips and no new taxes and I would recited he was one of the first sentence as I was residing and he told me at the grand old lag and when I was six years old, but but I'm dating myself, Bob was running for president- and I don't know where I got this from, but I freaking love

Bob Dole? I was the most enthusiastic dole supporter and I campaigned for him around my first grade classroom. I got my mother to she was going to vote for Clinton. I got her ticket to vote, for and let me pull the lever, I was committing election fraud when I was six years. How are you not a Democrat by the way? I will tell you so I'd. I dont know dull. Personally, but I'll tell you my favorite Bob Bill story which was during the Iraq war. So ninety one dolls in the senate- and I guess some It's the iraqi foreign Minister. Some some high pollute, Person from the iraqi government had come by his office to meet with him and where the middle of the Gulf WAR and and apparently walks out into the hallway and the Senate. Has people crowd. ran. It goes. Their only military men here and in two young men step forward. They go yes, sir, we're both United States Marines you're good

There's an Iraqi in my office. Go kick his ass, restore love, that's right now, but I would say that nobody, so those were my moments. Senator so look mine mine were the the same age. It was two and three and it was listening to my dad talking about being a freedom fighter in Cuba and end it was. I grew up with hearing stories of him being in prison, him being talk, him coming to America seek freedom and innate inspired me. I mean I've from one. I was this tall All I ever wanted to do was fight for freedom. a good thing to fight for now you know when you call your this called. I mean I was ok that carried around one of those rules, Multi colored Cosette, like children, Cosette recorders occurred in around interviewing people, and I was like four. My sister's answer my questions and like hounded

If they didn't answer things, the house so that, like that, might be set where someone my questioning, came from the consort. part, I think, as it is for a lot of people is from my personal experience. I mean I'm very I'm very catholic, I'm very pro life, and so, when you compare the two parties when you compare, the stance of the two parties is pretty obvious choice which party you know, respects the dignity of human life from conception to natural death in which party seeks to destroy it. So that's an easy thing: comes to the more I guess, almost intellectual side, the economic side I mean in high school. I was diagnosed with a pretty serious health problem. It was similar to an auto immune disease and there's no known treatment. So I had to turn to Alter- Lifestyle stuff, not because guys want to know my life story, but costs a lot of money. Anybody who you know, I don't no, it's not covered by insurance, and I just realized that, thank God that my father, a small business owner, had been responsible with his money,

he had saved instead of a government telling him what to do with his money. He was able to make that decision for himself that really saved. My wife enabled me to have the life that I have right now and in a nation that didn't that a free market, capitalism, that what the case I wouldn't be here right now. So how can I be anything other than conservative yes Ma Am, is Bailey call him from San Antonio taxes. Very weird: what, if scenario taxes were to see or any other state for that matter. What we did, what we do, you think, would be the best course of action, or how do you think the federal government to respond what's up I know which side his

so look I gotta say, and it was kind of interesting. I was talking with with Michael and lives before the show and they were asking. So is the question of Texas secession gonna come up the pop up and I said yeah, probably an endless, and I understand the sentiment behind the question: I'm not there yet and where can debate over over drinks last night after the show, at least I think Texas has a responsibility to the country, and an and I'm not ready to give up on America. I love this country. And I think without Texas Look Texas were brash were were not, we're sometimes larger than life, but but Texas,

is right now on amazing force keeping Erica from going off the cliff keeping America grounded on Values that built this country and the values of freedom, I think we have a risk, instability. Now, listen! If, if the Democrats in the filibuster- they fundamentally destroy the country if they packs a supreme court. If they make DC estate, if they federalized elections and massively expand voter fraud, there may come a point where it's hopeless: we're not there yet, and if there comes a point where it's hopeless. Then I think we take NASA. We take the military we take you take me, please. I don't wanna be trapped. What about Joe regulating and second

Joe Rogue, any, might be the President of Texas, let's get to the next guy, sit by the way, an interesting aside so hiding in the church we go to in Houston, is, is first Baptist Church in an instant and there four Baptists in the audience more about that this instrument, but so discovered, something our her was founded by american missionaries coming to a foreign country and so Texas was our own nation from eighteen, thirty, six, one thousand eight hundred and forty five. We were the Republic of Texas and during those nine years at some point during it missionaries came from the United States to

or a nation, the Republic of taxes, and they founded the first Baptist church. It was a missionary jerk well Senator crews, Mullins Richest, Gamma father of five, and I guess my question- I guess it's for all three but I think conservative ideas have a lot to offer this country when I was growing up your programme member them. Mclaughlin group I am favorite, show mine, I'm just curious. What is it in american culture, political commentary, in the media that prevents a show from that coming up again, where we can really see direct engagement of conserving the ideas with liberal ideas. I do have an answer to it in a very direct one. John Stewart prevented

The way John Stewart prevented that was, he went on crossfire. The CNN shall actually Tucker of was the conservative host of that at the time, and he so justly made fun of them, specifically talker that they can the Show- and that was the last one of those shows where you had a really open. Dialogue and debate between someone on the left and someone on the right now. Maybe the culture was already trending in that way, but that was kind of the kill shot. You really haven't seen anything like it since and the kind snark, and and a lot of that came from Stuart, is he's a pretty talented television, comedian, funding and he's a funny guy, and so because he wanted to be such a political player. I think he's here, through his talent and through his relative success, really transform that- and I hope something I ruined with you entirely. I hope say something like that comes back, but I, put out feelers. I invite leftwingers on my show all the time, and very rarely today agree to do so Twenty five years ago there

The show there was actually first tv show I ever went on. It was a show called debates debates and was on PBS the one in a hundred two stations across the country and it would have three people on one side, debating three people on the other and so the first time I had a chance to do it. a brand new baby lawyer was practising law on in in DC. And they asked me the first topic. Why should we grant amnesty to America's political prisoners by which they went Many people like Mumia Abu Jamal in and you know, people who murdered police officers that they call political. There's someone called me said: ok, are you willing to defend the conservative principle side of this We're talking to the producer say, okay, so let me get this straight. you want me to defend the proposition that violent criminals should be punished?

entourage. Yes, yes, I'm comfortable with that position. and I did Ladderlike fifteen or twenty these shows, and it was that it was really low budget. It make made verdict, look look totally Hollywood, and the guy who produced was gonna, more unstable. Who is also the producer firing line, and you know, William s Fourthly, when droop in the chair and have as yet no voice of use he's Polly Syllabic words that you'd have to go. Look up to be like I don't know what that made means, but man that sound, smart and by the way to be honest, Michael Knolls, is the reincarnation, William Butler. Thank you very much. Senator I've been trying for a viable life senator. If you had not compared me to William Buckley Junior, I would have smash you in your face. You would have state, no, I would not have. I would never that Buckley Buckley would As you know, he had. These is very remain show. He would only occasionally threatened to punch somebody in the face

and like warm it out like a doll and frankly in only minded deserve, but you don't really see that anymore well and- and then there was, if you remember there was a show called Hannity incomes he had shown Hannity and Poor Alan Combs. Who was the liberal and end it was like the Harlem globetrotters like like Alan Combs- was there to get his ass, kicked every night. It was short like Alabama Saturn, I'm gonna keep going there, just gonna keep going there, but it is ultimately it great tv, because Sean mark the floor with them. So then I just made it. How did it- I wish there was more discussion. There ought to be more balanced, Scutcheon We try to do some of that on this show. So so one of the people that listens to verdict is is

Heidi, my wife, which is amazing that that she does it and she liked me run on the treadmill and listen to it because she says hey I'd. I learn stuff. Some time she will say, he'll call my letter come up as that wasn't a good episode. I she will be unvarnished human like that would suck. And end. Its inevitably she's like when you get to dogmatic when you and Michael unlike yeah, yeah yeah, just like you, know, start pounding. The table, like you said what's much more interesting, is, is explain something to me. Let like let's go through an issue. understand what the other side is understand. Why? Some one would believe that- and this is The left never does and so I do think it something conservatives need to do more. Is Splaining and helping people think through and decide for themselves and Hopefully, this podcast plays a role in that yeah.

I think so I think maybe this is a little bit cynical, I hope not, but when you're analyzing, why it so difficult conservatives and liberals to get together and debate its because a lot of liberals refused. debate and the reason tat they refused to debate is because, when you present conservative arguments, They almost always win right. Conservative principle, of limited government of individual rights make people more profit. Happy and freer and their better the community in the family in the country and left I know this because their goal is not really to better our nation. Their goal is to accumulate more power in so they don't. They don't want to debase us anymore, because we ve learned their tactics. We ve learned what to do, but we do invite them and we are respectful when, when we turn we're very worse about we're very nice to them, but they have a fundamentally different vision of our country and they don't always want that exposed because most people, most voters on the right and the left, don't agree with a radical left as politicians in Washington DC and that's that

that's what they want kept secret. They dont want, voters to know that they, actually the politicians, represent the voters- and we be able to discuss these issues and disagree without getting personal and nasty without calling somebody s o b. To just say won't. That does mean they sense and an end, and I think if we had more discussion based on actual facts in substance- and it would be better for everyone and thus it doesn't waiter- that's why we always invite students to disagree to so be the very last question. Hopefully we save the less the best for last. What is your name and to whom? It is your question directed good evening? My name is Elk and underlined my questions directed towards the senator You have endorsed Governor Abbot and the twenty twenty two gubernatorial election out of the fourteen is running huge, think is most closely aligned with your beliefs. Governor abbot has been governor for eight years,

Has been a major disappointment for most conservatives shying away from many important issues Do I understand that you have a debt of gratitude for him for your solicitor general appointment, but do you feel that your friendship more important than the future of the state of Texas. Well, let us spicy question. Why? So let me say thank you for asking that question. It is a good question. Let me start by saying I think primaries are good thing. I think elections are a good thing. I think candidates having to justify their record having to just- by what they believe to the voters is right at the heart of democracy. As you know today that I've endorse Gregg at and I went to a large tea party gathering, that was an EAST Texas. A lot of the folks who worked very very hard. You elected me, who I know very well and I will say this- that was a gathering about this size about eight hundred people.

And that particular room was overwhelmingly not supporting abbot, which I knew you. They were vocally and aggressively supporting other candidates in the race- and I know the other candidates- are the good people of their first. I like and respect them and I stood up and explain to them why I was supporting aben, I said: look, let me tell you my personal history without which is in in two thousand to. I first met Gregg Abbot in November two thousand to so. He he had just been elected attorney general. And I was at the time I was a young lawyer, I was serving the George W Bush administration in DC and I got a call from a friend of mine and end the friend said: hey just got elected Agee as a guide and neither dad I mustn't brain dead and he said well he's looking for a solicitor general Are you willing to have your name considered, and so I kind of

what about it? For me, I said. Let me talk to Heidi. Let me give give us a day to think about it. I talked to Heidi, she said sure, go for it, and so I say sure, and so I sent an set in a resume. And I got a call a week or two later come down. Fly down to acid interview had never met him before We did an interview frankly, there was any chance. I get the job I At the time I was thirty one years old just a few years at a loss. God only argued two cases in my life, one in the district court, one in a court of appeal, never argued the Supreme Court I assumed abbot would hire someone who, twenty years. And that would be. Ok, that's the way the world I wouldn't you know I mean I would understand that, but I assume that have no prayer weeks later. I get a call he offers. May the job and and no one was more astonished than hiding.

Heidi literally admitted to me that she encourage me to apply because she said there's no way on earth and possibly get this job, sure sweetheart, you should do this so came down and I worked with Gregg Habitats, not just a debt of gratitude to understand this is not just personal friendship. I work side by side with him for five and a half years from the beginning about three to the middle of. Oh, eight and in those five and a half years. So when I started I'm brand when the job here the marching orders he gave me he said, look across the country. If we can defend conservative principles, if we can make a difference and go fight to defend conservative principles, go, do And for the time I just to turn thirty two I was like home how what a job mandates over five and a half years we were fighting for conserving

principles over and over and over again I'll tell you. During those times I went into Abbot Heller versus. Colombia, one of the big landmark cases before the Supreme Court. We defend the second amendment, the right Keepin bear arms. I went and abbot. I said: look let's go into that. Appeals. Let's fight for this, he said AB Lately had my back, we went to the supreme who want to five four landmark case defending ten commandments monument in the state Capitol grounds really really important case. A cue, case, we want a landmark five four case: many in versus Texas, which is probably the biggest case, I argued at the Supreme Court. That was a case where the World Court and the United Nations issued an order to the United States to reopen the convictions of fifty one murderers across the country- and it was the first time or in court, had

tried to bind the. U S justice system in the case of a weird turn, because the price In the United States, George W Bush issued an order for the state courts to obey the World court. And I went to ebb- and I said, look worse stand up against George W Bush, who is a Texan? Who is a republican? Who is the president of the United States and I'll tell you abbot, didn't waiver and he said, go and fight and do the right thing and we stood up to the world. When the United Nations in the present the United States, and we want a six three decision striking down the world court order and striking down the president or throughout All of that I saw abbot stand for conservative principles over and over again in big fights that other politicians would shy away for other conservative politicians. We shy away from

What I said what I explained this tea party group is number one and by the way, then, when I turn around and ran for office, Abbot has been a mentor to me for twenty years Has supported me has campaigned for me has been with me as I ice. As I said to this I said: look I would be an ungrateful jackass if I didn't support rigour. But I also he is a a. good man. He is a decent man and, and he has fought for conservative principles for decades now Listen as governor. Do I agree with every decision is made, no and I think during covered. In particular, these have been challenging times for governors I'd we're with everything he's maiden and why we have elections, that's why we have debate to discuss what electorate, what decisions made sense and what decisions but I am supporting Gregg Abbot, because I've got two decades of history

by his side and I've, seen him fight for taxes and fight for conservative principles over and over and over again. Is there not a comprehensive answer? Somebody was thought through their position. are you not? I would I would have The ten commandments case was an upper me about the many Incas. That's really important stuff and you, I think your point senator, is so important. We primaries for a reason we have elapsed, for a reason we at least used to have integrity measures, but we get it will get them back in place. We're fine we're we're fucking, they want more questions, they they I wish we could stay home can actually breaking per second. If you want to ask more questions, you can go to your verdict: what TED, grooves dot com, slash plus its the all access portal, and we will senator Crews- I will be taking live questions there a fairly regular basis and pro protein since gone questions. Anything so

have all the time in the world you can actually get a free one month, trial again on your little card. There's a promo code live. So if you use that promo code, you can you don't have to pay for the first month. You get that for free and will be taken, questions that we want to take all the questions that we have. the council, please we invite you to join us. There I want to thank everyone who came out and because I think you or embodying that spirit of making your voice is heard of? making our democracy, which we hear much of that of making it actually work of fighting for a better country. I, of course, want to thank our friend lives, Wheeler for coming out here and my let me say, there's only one way to wrap up a verdict in Texas AY and that quite simply giggle.

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