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Episode 1085 - Scott Caan

2020-01-02 | 🔗

Scott Caan stars in major movies, is on a long running television series, published his own photography, wrote more than 20 plays, and yet he’s still not sure what he wants to do when he grows up. Scott and Marc talk about finding professional fulfillment after a lifetime of personal growth, from being a kid looking for trouble to mellowing with age, letting go of anger, and embracing fatherhood. Scott also tells Marc about his aborted rap career and the evolution of his relationship with his dad. This episode is sponsored by Squarespace

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I would do the show All right. Let's do this, how are you what the fuckers, what the fuck bodies, what the buccaneers the new year happy New year a cave. Is that too optimistic? you know we're in it here we go again. We made another year Arthur he's getting better. Some things are definitely not getting better the things may be. I personally my sixth. The gate of life on planet earth. These six years old and I think I really took into consideration what this a transition means. Like for me. New year's is kind of a I dont do much on New year's. I dont go to parties, I dont worry. Got New year's. I used to sometimes leads to go under the early spot
get out now, maybe go out to dinner, but the last few years a keep a low profile watch a movie, take it in the changing of the year with the someone could This to me and that that's usury- he'd been. The thing I don't think I really thought about it: back there were entering another decade that it's been a decade. And that there were some markers this decade I mean this decade was a big decade. For me this was the decade really for me It might, this might be the not the last decade, but this might be the pinnacle. This was decade of out of the Mark Marin, experience of them admiring trajectory we might be. Parking downward. Now So is a big decade there I'll talk about that in a minute. Let's get some stuff out of the way today on the show Scott Con is: is an actor he's these James, con he's on Hawaii,
five, oh that's! Currently in its ten season, it's on Friday, night son CBS. I ran into him add Mogador in New York City? When I introduce myself he knew who I was. I liked his work in the oceans movie. That is always very funny. Casey athletes have not very little Hawaii. Five though I always like James Con tough, do you have your feet? The presence of me looking around in there inside a cancer brain and lifer did bids about his old man, but you know you also lived. Scott wasn't slouch been there and back, and it was nice to talk to him. Even I did prego annoying. I can do that with the sons and daughters of the people who do the things it's hard to avoid its but usually am respectful. But I think we got will some day out anyway. Got kind. Is here my tour De If I could, the freezing portion, the freezing leg, of the hey, there's more tour begins
as they January thirty. If in Cleveland, Ohio at the Igor Theater, and then we go here too, a giant we're thirty first and Grand Rapids Michigan at the found street church Saturday February. First in a walkie Wisconsin at the Turner a ballroom Friday February, Fourteenth take a break from the fire, using go down too well, Orlando Florida, at the hard rock live then on the Tampa on Saturday, the fifth in February stress that the stress on Thursday very twentieth back off to freezing Portland main State Theatre for February, twenty first Providence, Rhode, island at the Columbus Theatre, Saturday, or a twenty second new, hey Connecticut at College Street Music Hall and Sunday February when a third Huntington New York at the Paramount go to death could he have pod dotcom swear to her for links to all the venues. Can you dig it out States I will be doing with deemed El Ray Dean, Dal, Ray and me so
The ten year marker the decade marker the new decade business. It ten years in September, since the beginning of this podcast. Since we since when I started back in two thousand and nine the old house in the old garage and that's it the big deal, the arc of this decade, has been very, very impact. Oh and life changing period of time, and for me, I'm now any new house in a new situation about to move into the garage of this house it's a nicer garage. Obviously, in its already done, and it just I guess everything goes on. Things are certainly different, but I tried to take look back with a little bit of gratitude over the last couple of days as we begin this new year with some propagation, some fear some hope, also some some weariness.
Some of the ideas like you know like when can I just ease out but work I just hope that you took a bit of time spress, at least to yourself. Some gratitude for what you do have what has gone well, and it may be a how you can do things differently. As I said before is difficult. To live in a world where each year, maybe things are going well for you personally, but things inside of you seem to be spiralling out of control- and I guess it's just- we have to find a balance and figure out what we can do to help out. But. I reconnected. Would somebody if you ve been with me on this show, since beginning I had a roommate, a mild house, her name GOSH the Stars year, stash coup Zaki, she's deliver me the old house when I start The podcast she was around man
and she she she was there when I got there. Bathtub. What my genes she was there when we were just started: I'm trying to figure out how to make money economical hopes were me, send in swag out to people that their donated theirs forego fund means and before the pan, what is called Patria wages, we set up a website. You, if you like, to show a sense of money, us envy I'll, send you a t, shirt and some stickers hundreds like an envelope. She was there at the beginning, you ever me and the result reached out to her is I wanted to tell her that left. They had passed because she had a relationship with the cat. Nowadays, the cat used to sleep with her She loved that cat and that's how he reconnected in. Where does she came over her shoulder the house and she he talked about our lives. It change has been almost a decade, is very nice issues at the beginning, she's doing fine and I'm
fine and just issue in there was intention. There was one those situations where I think I met with a couple of times to apologise for the same thing, which wasn't anything I just felt at the moment. Moved out. It was weird, but damn, but everything Ok man, she got a baby and it was great to see here and there to see her and it it was it I'll have because I reached out at a respect, for her relationship with my fucking cat with their might my past cat were fond and now you gonna do with Monkey MA, am. Monkey seems a little out of sorts irony Well, if that's you know, maybe I guess They grieve. Why windy, but I sit down. He climbed up to me were eastward early, like a baby, oh climb onto my chest, and just I kinda my shoulder every time? sad. It took a week or two tat ever him too, I guess register
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Talking begun any voice, overwork we had where the Cannes and talking to a MIKE's that I've audition for things that they didn't hire me for, but so you know cartoon voices for you now. I like it sounds very good geared pull that thing. So I feel even more right here in my mouth yeah yeah I got like I said. A thirteen year old dog has been my best friend. She's got this thing, called them degenerative ml apathy. What is its basically the spinal disease where back legs? got down and they stop working, but I'm not gonna. I'm gonna do too much. You know when she I live in an. I got a lot of steps yeah, so she can really make it up and down the steps now so when she, when she can't get up a minute, just ended because You know her old. They already leave and are actually take her with me everywhere. Right now, Marty leaving Home- and she looked to me like me- I wouldn't
I'll go with you so yeah we need allies, You have New York Nora How little Laura Canyon? I'm not gonna, let I know I've been there for walk up and others. Like me, I ordered something step man. So what I d ever plan, we yeah, I'm just gonna, do not push it. Further the needs we pursue being gonna. Put it down you wake up, come over, do it man yeah, I mean I do it the other of sit there. Whether and do it- but you know someone come over Here- have sooner can take her. The vat none have someone come on get a deal just before I mean like dinners before he started on the agriculture I'm kind? ok with death. What does that mean Are you really just think you are Combination of both having part of me, I'm in others, like of a party that gets, can be called to it because you ve various a lot of it, then there's the part of it it's like you know. We were all eventually going to wrestle with God. At some point. We never win that one rain. Also it's it's
that's a tragedy right, we're all gonna die, I no longer just doesn't mean well for any now. No, if you wrote this in a movie, you know that this is the story, diet, the every it's always tragic, and one thing we know for sure yeah and if you look at me you know, I know what I like to do and if I get to appoint a we're all gonna be at that place, we either be correct, these are not. We either get togae. There's more for me to do that. That I look forward to write if not was begun and see. What's what now so there's nothing! Next, then, let's be done, sir. I Gary I mean like me: I try to reconcile that shit. I mean I'm fifty six and I think about it more than they used to I'm. Trying to ok with it, because it's on some level is the one thing we all know for sure that will go die so on a practical, but what should be the one thing that were relatively comfortable with, but it's actually one thing we're all terrified of core and by the way, I'm not gonna, be a tough guy. I'm scared! I don't want to die like my life right, it's funny when I was younger. I was reckless
what would happen. We were now that I really like life right, of course now make will wait a minute. Now I dig it snow MC, we'll wait a minute. Now I dig it knowing. I want this to go on for a long time have turned around, but I just feel like if I get to a point where I cant do things that I like to do like with my dog, a grassy that she doesn't want, she's not happy, she not herself any more than it would go. Well. What are we doing anymore? You can have someone put you down. Is it now, but I'm not gonna. Let you know if you don't know what it is. I don't know what I'm gonna do. I still got a minute, madam. I just want to happen quick. I do mean that another thing look, I don't want to do a ears. Slowly, losing my brain and getting movie. I hope you know I'd like to be no I'd like to go to the gym at ninety two in the morning and get hit by a bus later in the afternoon. I, as president yeah. Ninety two, that's that's like yet I take it. You know how you are your genes. You good, I think, a pretty good idea what I mean Now. Are you friends? We you're dead, yeah good area.
Is because, like a, it must be an odd thing, because you I go in these kind of white stocky alpha Jews seventies. One three, I guess right in acting worlder in world in the world in general. I you know I it's funny. I only knew tough Jews up their data yeah yeah yeah. There were even like your family. You know here my family, my people, I known, but people now grown up here, but I am but yes in the acting world, there's like him and who else the tough Jews are you got burned fall he of John burnt eyes: have two or full Jew. I think he might be fooled you I can remember. I talked to a genuine, tough kid, for sure anyone, turf, Korea Shiela both these two hundred. You he's a half, a genuine, tough kid. He is here I mean by the well, I know John there and I'm actually use the eyes the box he box in a box
some people that he body at I've heard stories, but re annually. Tough and I dont know Shire, but I've heard stories. It is a tough views I get near me. I'm not. I think I'm Morven Alpha pussy really partner, but let me tell you of an alley. What I did and, like the whole time, like gum were held, look out like it way. How many siblings. How many kids is you're dead have like have that outbreak? They got a lot of a lot of different wives, and a sister that I met when I was twelve. They you met when which one of the factors that happened. Did you not know about it? I knew about it, but it was just something we don't really talk about. I walked into the house of twelve years old. I was the first wife the yes. Yes, his first wife will there's also one that suspect that I think was an old quickly sort of they count that one bout that might have been before that are after I don't know, I'm right right, yeah. The house was twelve years old and she on my debts. This. Is your sister meet your sister and she looked at me in the first thing she did was she said he stoned.
You as twelve and where you I was hardly a resume preserve. Did you have digital dragging a trouble? He looked a meaning. You know he said he's been smoking. We must know what sort of government- and that was my that's our relationship, start of my sister and then she pick me up from school. The next day and broader eighth Weedin dropped through my lap asked me for new role: Joint Serbia Hollywood. So so then so you're the middle. So things are bad to say on this. I see a second here, so you, the second wife, I'm not Why, on the son of the second unworthy right now, and then he got another one, another three three I got a twenty. Eight year old brother, I got a twenty three year old brother. I got a night terror, twenty real brother and the twenty in the twenty three or from the same way. So we stuck with that one. Busy he'll be eighty next year and working.
He's he's. Actually right now he's here he is. Possessed with fixing aims. You know he's been a maniac most of his life area. Rodeo you raised boats, he rode motorcycle rise. He did everything. You know has the duty on body so he's just done another back surgery but pretty heavy one always recovering from that, but it's it's a slow, tough one. So he's he's gonna work go over there, Yemen yeah now it so when you're grown up like who, like what's the scene and because, like I've, talked to a couple, how I would know people that use on the Hollywood people category what's going on. Here is no matter how he would people like I've talked to people whose parents were in the business and there in the business at Bigley Junior. I feel, for example, that notion the very specific it's not it's, not a judgment thing. It's a specific type of style. You throughout the duration of this show you
if there is anything that start to reveal itself, is it This is a community like any other community of working people. They just happened to be movie stars and completely Brad their minds in Spain too much money, but but I growing up, why do what was what was the house like who were there? for that were around with the who You were the your peers and neck in that world I mean, are your dad's, I mean he was kind of The anti Hollywood? Do no young, he a sort of density highly of that world. He said if you ever turn out to be. One of these highly was killed. Some me I'll, give you a beaten. I got that talk every day. I saw it really oh yeah, who is easy like like who? What was I mean? I don't know who I was no exact oiled. Nobody around don't be a broader or I'll kill you. Basically you know my dad. You know he's played tough guy It is genuinely a tough guy is one of the toughest guys I've ever met.
Remember. Reading that year, his father was a me up. Yeah. Now this guy was up My grandfather's hands were like gum it once It was like to your thumbs and, as you know, the guy pneumonia passwords seven or eight year, but it mean he would. He could lift people out of cars at seventy years old. He could bend quarters with his hands mama, I'm not kidding, he ripped phone books and have him, and he was like Weirdly says strong Z exit, show you he could do yeah yeah, but so anyway, venue obtaining for Hollywood thing. You know he anything, but this business and anything, but being like one of these Hollywood people, was sort of his his his trip. What is the matter you now now because I think he respect what I do a little bit here, you know is how was it proudly? I think he will be its we're here, though, isn't because like he was like you know, he was doing it a long time year.
May. I use westerns using western Movie dean, Martin and crises like Eldorado John Wayne Area, its wild Amy. At some point you must love, show business Yeah, I mean you know you find some good and they tell you you're giving money to do it. When I knew you like a little bit, keep doing air none of this evening's. None of the other people went into showbiz now, they're, all creative, creative dues that that the boys are our creative, my sister, not so much I mean she might be created, but you really go into that at all, but yet they're, all creative kids one way or the other, and then they work in the industry a little bit more. The second brother he's he's Parma Theatre, group, and he works in the theatre in I mean, as you know, it's not it's, not the! U dont! You don't you. The guy who raise your hand? Ok, here's here's a job, nine coarsely at yeah. I mean badges wonder with their aspirations that there's no butchers are dentists. There's no
which is definitely definitely not dentists. They're gonna have now I've. I've ever remember my mother, brother, I went over the house when he was like twelve you older somebody was doing homework here. My dad ended up just taken homework and doing it in his wife sorted scream out and we gotta let him do his own homework any disease. I can be a rocket scientist. Ok, don't, like you know with me, The debate is decided already somewhat, but you and start out when you were grown up needed it did you weren't, always enacting no right. No, me at first. I was into anything, but I haven't I go to school. You know I didn't like school, which is another thing I don't think school is for everybody. Probably too wait! A minute shouldn't where we go in that way, go visit. We I would highlight what I went to Beverly Hills Highschool here now. I made it up to the end a tenth grade that was it near it, but I'll have it. I got, I got a record deal and then I will on tour, for
beginning of my 11th great euros on toward her. Nine weeks him at the time of your members, Cyprus, Hill and yet a pain I was on towards those guys and dumb and a factor and then they sit here. You gotta go back to high school now that you are performing yes, I was you wrap guy. I was a rabbi were successful, rap guy, a kind of new, a brain, adding go, get the record everything you can't get there. Doesn't exist. Something really Maybe so, you're, like the White RAP guy yeah sure did have a partner. Did I did is name. Is Alan Mommy's goes by the alchemist, he's a big he's, probably one of the most respected hip, our producers in the hip hop today. A really is the last with it. So like again. I was a sort of looking for a way to be different and create beat you not have to do what everybody else is doing a rap music in the early night. This was not what it is
like the punk music of of minority, and yet it wasn't mainstream. It was aunt savage man, right, you're, being a bee boy and being about graffiti in being a break dancing and singing and dj. Yes, that kind of thing was, was you know now you got some and you girls who live in fancy, neighborhoods hip up their thing. Ensure mothers are pumping hip outlet network that wasn't. It was illegal and you know what goin home. When you were, you just want to drop out of school and the old man's our guide. Why wasn't really close to the old man? Then? Oh really, I was gonna work he get Gary married, and he was doing that life and I are gonna as my mom at the time and pissed off now. This was in part your life. Now yeah I mean I just you know, There is always part of my life. Never like you too. You don't say for keeping active at the desert today,
I know it's good. Rebellion was out. Well. You didn't have to be no we're all were was friends. More than I bridges back to them, and here we have a good friends, your mom anything you want dropped by did. Go do have up. She was yet, limited seen, no, not at all men, not losing ass. She um my mom alone, she's she's she's passed a few years ago or six six seven years ago, but she was pretty trusting lady who was not normal by means of me. I was twelve years old. I kicked at school and she walked into the principal's office and on the go fuck himself. You know dementia she's a different kind of late. What its way she was natural to she was. This is actually pretty good actress. Yes, she was an actor and a model and she was hairstyle physical area. It is a free spirit, conifer,
Yes, she was. She was in his arms. He was a bachelor shoes, bad at eleven, a m catana shared. She was pretty cold like yeah and am in. I sit on I think I'm good at this thing and she was like we'll do it? Don't do that other thing: you're, not good fucking, yeah faggot, How does the rap career stop? So we went to. We got signed this, this label Yang in Europe and so we went to go. Do this show in London. I think it was called top of the parts. At some goofy should always call, but we want that. We look. I was sixteen years old, We went there and when we got there, they had done a remit to our song and are album was about to come out in the states and got to this. This is the remix, and this is what you're gonna perform on the show right and it was some goofy house near of our sun weight. It wasn't even your mix they
Green House. Music at the time was big and London and that this is what they wanted. This is how they wanted a pump, our record and weird yeah yeah. So we, the night before the week we're getting per diem every day, so we decided we gotta, keep getting the podium while we're here. So we collected all the per diem and then on the morning we're supposed to leave and do the rehearsals and do the show we took a flight to Amsterdam right. You never told anybody. You know that the label dropped us. And then they called our label in back in the state budget. Tommy boy records at the time and I think that that past them off to Southern Nanda, dropping is it not releasing the record. That's my story I mean maybe it's because they found at the record data. I get as much, but I it's much better story that they dropped, because we did something you ran off with per diem whales entity which will you do me. I tell him that's fine right, very fun. At seventeen years old Amsterdam's thing in youth hospitals for two weeks with energy bills the tv show they'll get anyone say anything, you now d, so you
The other record diet most of the songs are idea. That's kind disappointing that to put your fuckin record yeah, but I then you know. Look, I found something else that I like to do: creative, what the acting yeah yeah nobody ever when you first start doing that. We are actually doing to show what the Santa Monica Civic Centre and there was a director What was your name skills? Ok skills here, girls in the alchemist scale? Now he was actually called mud foot at the time scales in my foot. Ok, air of you Look at you look at me like a kind of making fundamental nobody needed them. Just why me as much as you are, maybe for myself here.
Thank you, you go when you're. Sixteen is amazing. I know I've me, I'm not making funny you re, so you can make farming owes its nicer, Meda, its. I think it's a little beacon get a little laugh yeah. Why not? I hope everybody laughed morass, in so doing. We will also need to do this, or do we just talk and I think the donkeys I've got now am I mean in order? I get the more self conscious. I really that happening. I think so I think I get more, You know when your younger you wanna be causes lacquer and then you realize that abortion and yet They today say the wrong. You put your foot your mouth today, everybody knows about it every day or anything you haven't done anything hateful. How could get an idea of the stop me if I do now yet I'm alive Nada but I can appreciate that it is kind of weird where you know when you have the sort of life lessons of specially. Left, some wreckage,
entering the yeah yeah left some wreck, you know you get your point, your library like ass. It was I doing, yeah that and also its it today. Like I said yeah, you say the wrong thing in everybody's mad way I think some nobody knows about it any more. If you do the wrong thing, that's were sought to saying the wrong thing. It's not like you going to drop the inward or something right now known on me. I saw like so, but I mean you don't know. What's a battle know its appropriate or with not appropriate anymore, no, not really Will you tell your moment of ever Giovanni were busy of Aragon there. Now I don't know him. I interviewed him yeah yeah, very Gregor yeas he's, Gaia, intense guy, good actor, very, very good actor. You know no long time agenda than a couple movies, which once did boiler room with him. Oh yeah did gonna sixty seconds with him and I directed a movie that he was in called the dog problem. The dog promise sought a cry
like that would have me view directed to two and a half to an atom of this directive. In the middle of one. Now, no, no, I I wrote a movie called mercy that my good friend, Patrick directed, but we sort of road and directed it together, emulate the director and the writer, but we gotta. We worked on it. He directed agency. What's with bullets come around it? That's a unanimous, Agnes, octaves assembled, you do in the game, laws resort. Yet its director who is making this movie call the boy called hate, but this young, put them Hu Jia steals a motorcycle and kills people and eat the came to my show and got in touch with me somehow and said. Would you come audition for this and I said now and then, when I read it, I thought all escalade, like the writer motorcycle area who and then you right at the time did I ride motor so yea Evan bread models are smaller, I dont anymore, more of a five year old daughter and my my my said when it when she got pregnant, we never write motorcycle ever gonna sit fight, so I haven't motorcycles
What is actually going to die in the motives that was, I think, that's why she was gone and its gives good cause. He I honoured that does not yet area. I still have a bike. Barletta just sits there. As is the colony and limit, does sometimes with their worth, and I've been hit a couple times, and yet I it's fucking. Married nobody deem like he got someone car just right. I'm off the road and he went down on the highway fuckin like got me at skinned. Pretty good buddy Let's look Emmy skinned up pretty good as you made it yeah, it's crazy. Need a river. Wildly, can stay away out of things go back now, but he was a lifelong bike. I think I just like looking cool anyway, so I'm fine with it being gone. I think it's like. I never wrote him. Could my dad was an orthopedic surgeon like he dragged me thus but allows in high school and showed me a garage that I get this sort of a scared straight. You re right,
I could have been used to hang yeah. I've heard a lot o er the peak surgeons in my life I think even taking thus knows what did he do? Knees elbows sure he was a nice guy back, he did knees, backs hypsometers Falander, his partner did hands, but he said most bones: did some sports medicine is well yeah, we'll deal. I guess, I'm I've had a bunch of surgeries, oh yeah, from waste from all different stupid. Asia is torn by serves broken collar bombs from white fur. She's. I dinner in cars now done a lot of brazilian judges for the fight on the street here, I'd like not to Have you when I was a kid all the time you re going to fight in the air, but not as an adult? I think I've been to fights and that's in twenty years right yeah the exercise It's not my impulse to fight a more had negotiated yeah. I get it you're smart, I guess so,
just don't you think twice what I mean you know when you're younger it's like proven stuff, but now I hope I know I don't want to. I don't like it should have been one fight. We can't worming who were done with this will guide the gothic there. I don't have a chance here everybody's got a chance the learned he absolute lay hid somebody squaring the John. I go to sleep there, so you could get one freer, absolutely provoking you're, absolutely not by here. At all, see this movie boy called hey so anyway, just when I did it, I hear sort of realize this is a good world from mad enough. I wanted write, direct move, the light spring, food, but wherever these Gruber weirdos was Eileen this trip- and that was the first time you ve been on a site like that. I mean, I guess you know my dad didn't work a ton when I was growing up your allotted time off, for whatever reason, I didn't really view it when I was a kid. It has something to do. Rice like ok, this is the decision,
mom as job here when I was there, but a part of it. Like ok. This is my my group of people. This goes with so many different kinds of people in one place do indifferent. But it's all gets all this. You know this creative energy going towards this one thing in essence: pretentious boots and not through its unpretentious emanated its business, and you know when you get off. He says if he meant, if you say summaries pretentious than it takes away. Revenge Well now I think they're, like it's weird, when there's a thing that we do on your involved in show business where you know you sort, especially if you you ve, got me of a kind of ST smart rugged. Sensibility where you got to trivialize it, but it's like it's a fucking real business and people work hard in there's all kinds of the people involved. In one thing the working or this one thing, it's kind of amazing you get on the there's like a hunter people, thou know what they're fucking doing
but you do in real jobs right. You know down to the fuckin person, this figure now to hide your MIKE. So when you get that bug, doo doo take acting class data, which is this place called players West, oh yeah, fear company and Jeff go bloomin Robber, Carnegie, that's their place yet, but it was a really cool place because it was a part of it was an acting scuba than the other part becomes the sphere company. So after a couple years after you learn how to act, would allow lemmings near them. Area craft of Agro. Down. Then there's the next eleven which is like you, become part of the theatre group, and now you put in a play all the time and people work. Employees writing plays acting directing placing of access to these three theatres right and on and off the last twenty years I've been going back there put not plays so it's a great little thing to be a part of anyway. That's what I did and in Gabon
so I wonder now guys who create he's already you're his him and Robert Carnegie Labour Carnegie. They had another guy he's but these like a sandy Miser programme really and dumb, and and do they both teach it the place. I don't yet Robert still teaches there, but I dont believe Jeff does anymore. Did he to Allah yeah and did you take her Jeff? No, Robert I worked with Jeff a bunch in over the years. He's interesting After he's, one of my favorites Jezreel seems to be the real deal. What makes him your favorite like? What is it about the way he does it? Just the way they re working right, but its he's he's? I've never met anybody. Who is more, I mean in life and. When he acts whose more attuned with what's going on with the other person he couldn't be more in the moment. You know he area and there's somethin like really interesting, inhuman about
it's like. He is interested in everything and is interested in that's to me, the best actors, the ones who pay the closest attention. So that's why true compulsory? he's here is studying you always know and that's you know. That's too me acting as you can When all the stuff you gonna do, we can just pay attention with the other guys, the one or the other people are doing in that's what makes people more interesting if their interesting to begin with and he's very interesting he's right. You know he's been around forever to like the little parts and little things he's. Good man is its weak, yeah he's an acting lesson. Just yeah is right when he said when you're talking to me so Korea, yeah yeah israeli training, getting to your bad right and we want to work off and the other guy It was mostly mice. Nourish stuff would like he study was sending miser, Sawyer repetitions name, and indeed you find a helpful. I mean I said, yeah, I did what was it seems.
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then, why don't you run the guy? Yeah represents what makes it. What does it take us like? If I look at you you're gonna, remind me of your old Mary. Is our right to say I was a handsome guy, so there is a mammogram like that that guy's it made sense to me that oil, whether it was a duty, it breaks out. It was a beautiful. Life inside so short. Thank you I'll. Take it and then like when I start to notice you in the when I meet the oceans movies. I don't have the notice me, I mean you know I think, like a bribe. Why would I talk to you if I wasn't complaint, but but this the: u in case you do in the oceans will be very funny to me. Think it's funny Dinah my kids like accommodating, am you guys have a thing that kind of built over the three movie Are you gonna get a stick to get here? Are you gonna do with cases pay attention to him and he so interesting, and really, I think so. So I just
showed up and it is paid attention to Casey reacted to help Haiti sickly. That's it! That's it no homework, no attention in case it here. So I goes on. I care. How do you think you can do you find? your challenging yourself as an actor. No, absolutely not! I mean I've been you know, I'm gonna need a lot of movies. You It has been a minute. I've been procedural show for ten years, which has long time do yeah and its great listen, no complaints, my enemy unlucky However, how long are you in Hawaii every year about sex? days of every month was how goes I just go and do a couple episodes and then I don't do all the episodes anymore, ok and then on come so they don't, so they shoot a lot of it and then you just exteriors in a y know all of its, and while it is like a said, though, I'm just not in all of omen, yeah, you were
now them now or in the Vienna beginning here for many years two or three year here sets great. So you're making money in your sleep now yeah yeah good, but answer your question. Am I doing things that I'm really right? You about her. What are you asked? What was the challenging your challenge know for sure do you want to, of course, yeah yeah and I think that's cause I got to know your thing man anywhere in the bit like how off you know, at the beginning, though, in a web you seem like you're, always in good stuff, and you seem like your and stuff that Europe should. The excited about their we're with different. For me like uniting like now. Like my, Opportunity started to happen when I'm losing my forties, so I a sort of a type. You know- and I ve I've done a few movies. Many. And any I can say no, but see you haven't seen you do a ton of stuff again
We are having to say, but I don't see you doing stuff for the paycheck. No, I died in I'd, never set out to do that with acting right move. Never it was never do you do anything just for a page. You know not if it doesn't like. That's a pretty amazing the closest I get to that really is again like I'm going to do But my I've comedy special dropping in margin and I've got this hour that took me four years to put together and yellow once the comedies vessels on its sorted dead in the water so like I just added like six or seven days to go, make a little money, because I can in the media. But it's me don't got it something that you don't eat foreign procedure. All my shit, yeah remained so anyway. That's it! That's it that's right! I never did you acting because I need money here, which is a different thing. That is yes, is you gotta make compromise yeah? Now? Finally, your being tied cast
you mean, as a result of why I ended up. What does that mean Nike, you know: do you play the same guy a lot? I think. I don't know. Maybe when I was younger area but does not go nearly nine doggie Jackie do now Oh no, I guess not, and I guess I am I don t. I don't know you tell me they get you try type cast me out. I just met you. I know you do that the Brazilian, whenever resigned to the area like it, managed to try it. I know I should try something you owe you. Don't you not under any color, I will run up the hill. That's great. I do exercise worry out and stop the competitive thing in Ireland. Be crying on a MAC I bet you're gonna, get out of there, no one competitive, but I don't know I don't like losing yeah like losing you.
But he put United deal with it because you know pride, Plato, shit, I guess everything. Losing version idea. I gotta, but you gotta do it and I know you gotta do all that stuff waiting a decent. Only! That's why I don't I'm like. I don't know it's out, I'm fifty six. What do you do a fifty six to getting the game? What get what I can start play basketball we pass. I don't know I'm just saying stuff the difficult and hard we gotta pushes everything you just sit around none? I was myself up. The hill terminus are running up here. It's getting down to get away for everyone's differ man. If I didn't have exercising Jujitsu, I have probably have to take. You might embrace announced in the same way, two hundred like a forty five minutes up straight and then I run down like an hour and a half and had done in a couple weeks. I did today it was great yeah, I'm look, you can have a panic attack while exercising not that you tell you I'm just argotic. That's that's true.
You mistake for a panic day. I just a panic around here. That's right! That's better! If I drop on the hell, that's good happens quickly. So but I got the big book photographs in a beautiful, but thank you so you do in that kind of stuff, and also you mention like writing indirectly. Now, when you do like see ripen, I do have a lot of place like forward kind of yeah yeah yeah I was gonna bring me some, but I thought the don't be silly now I may I will, if I, At China, written by what it has been made in like arriving, giving the french Samuel French but yeah, saying here, let's talk about this, so when did you start right in a place write about, ninety eight ninety seven, ninety eight because weak we're having trouble getting the rights to do the place that we want but to do at the work every house yeah? So I would go home and right scenes and then I would bring the scenes in four different actors and it would work on them and then run
the Carnegie was there and he would take you doing this. Don't stop doing this and then scenes turned into one acts turned into falling plays, and then I just I just swear. It started, and I just really got in Writing an end. Wait now. Do they get produced, yeah yeah, yeah, I've had I've had a lot of place I've got guts out, I mean that's how they get published. You go, get em produced in and reviewed and then so without first big way of yet a big openings like New York and stuff. I'm sorry, I don't know, no, you don't have a nervous. I wish I'd know no this. Why echo brought him for you on my MAC and get me I mean I could read him earlier, but you know a date yeah. I just you know when your younger governors who took the young people and they want to tell you about all the stuff that they're doing it. How do I get the less? I wanna put driving push what I'm doing here. As you know, I can't stand it. I only want to be on social networking platforms and I'm not has, I feel I mean, different, so do you never on their? No, I mean I like it
creep out on Instagram like look, it started an into some yams. We are under a fake account. Just oh yeah. I don't have that. Like posting pictures, my child in my ear- and I think that is what I will do she I've done my shit. I gained the cats, some in a monotonous nine over its right draining. It's like all other jobs. Were men haven't Emily coming up every day I go with the days over. You wanted me to also post things and worry about how people respond. That's another thing man I don't want to, but I want to do the wrong thing as much as I don't give a shit. What people think I wanna be hated either you're nervous about the year someone's makes a comment and then unlike in and will be for somebody over the thing that happened yet again avoided you. Craig mental hygiene is probably, and maybe I'm just as you know, I guess, if you're young creative today, you have to be a part of that. That's what they tell you right. I mean it's very competitive game. You know remained branding machine.
Maybe it's true I don't know, but I see a lot of people just like any other people go on for five ten times a day. What are they doing? I work out and like what's the matter with the? What am I looking for you ever look at that just look at sometime around so the play because I'm curious about ways actually cause theatre, because I'm I'm Some friends were Tracy. Let's whose they play here and oh process of writing play, especially when their little abstract assorted, interesting to me. So how did you learn to do it? Just by reading omen judges a way you know at the leg. Said, the player we worked on and we did. We at the school. You want really supposed to grab stuff from movies we're all going after me. A good play. Break, as is near rage, good great Stanley. Rationally, I don't know shit. We want my fair writers ever what was his big place?
he's good, the Arab Great Shirley rationally, I don't know Shangri LA one of my favorite writers. Ever what was his big place of its attacks in american reconciliation to ending the deep blue sea? The dreamer examined his pillow. Have someone just mention the sky to me today? Yes, women, a man Hatton Secure, railroad doubt he wrote Joe where's the volcano earlier he wrote struck. I feel like stupid. Why? Why? Why? Because, like I know that I in Joy Theatre, if it's good, theater- and I don't go to add enough me- I don't seek it out. When I do. I find a very moving and, unlike anything else, am I sort of fascinating. Because I don't know how they arrive. Evolve waiver and be very unusual to me sure, but as an actor. I think that's the the experience as an to that as the one you can go in for the play yak as you get the kind of liver from the beginning to the end, and that's the thing in and somebody gets weird I can get. We are again do you write weird place of their weary
yeah. Now my bow relationships, you know: what's the setting of? What's your first big play, the firstly ever wrote. The gap publishes called two wrongs: the earns about a man and a woman both see the same therapist and then the therapist tries to set them up, which is nothing something is therapist. Then do right actually fall in love in the therapies actually falls in love with a woman as well, and so the breaks them up and then explode admirably, ACE yeah because he falls in love with her. So then he tries to pull them apart and adjust. The idea was to be amended therapists in therapy. I think that their presence in people- and I was wondered like today- have lives too You, the therapies, have feelings, are united, of course, every of course they do right by as a mere someone who goes to therapy. You just imagine that their perfect right, because they have all the answers there, smarter than everybody they know what's going on. Did you go yeah? I am I'm a fan of therapy here. No doubt we did you ever
of his hat and servants fired that rears or, like I mean, there's, there's there's a reference to a therapist, almost everything I've ever written yeah. Sorry, So they helpfully you then even the ones that aren't or help for you know me everybody's either here or a cautionary tale right. I guess maybe just a born dear wasted time. That's a cautionary tale, I mean your family, your friend, everybody you either. You know you to look at them and go. I want to do that or I never wanted to hear. The word status quo is at a cautionary tale. Kind. And you are, he don't wanna be boring. There are to be not interesting because I've been there. I just started going recently again and in its it Ok, you! I used to do joke about it that, like when you go back to their opinion, fear in your life fifties eagerly fortys and eat you needn't, you don't waste any time. You can kind of He walked any like. I looked into it yeah. Why things we can on fought right- and I know right- listen knowing what's fact is is is really helpful.
I know for sure you're, no doubt like you, also. I guess there's all these different avenues now with the therapy in terms of like what is Peter, Sd in what isn't right from ITALY. Because if you everything really right, so if you bandit definition of that but what how much of your problems or whatever your shortcomings, are whatever you're your emotional obstacles are, are based on your me, maybe emotional trauma that you never recognised. This has to be right, yeah, it's just a re framing of the same she write. I write your mommy daddy. What are you do it over and over and over and over again I regard I understand this a little bit and that's it right or yeah or you take pills and you just don't never, I never was always also adverse pills me to hear I tried him, Yeah I mean it, drugs are lacking out of me. I get it right. Yeah, I'm listen. I don't want any. I dont down tat. Some people need we're out. You know look,
on balance or whatever else that the matter is we're all all that stuff comes hassock. From an right yeah. I guess there's some people just born goofy in her right, but for the those parts in ninety five percent of it is is how we raise our childhood or what but screw to supplement or younger. It's weird dockers, liking eyes. You say like a kid in the USA, the Third Party get older and you know you not hear you. You're, not you don't wanna be, is NEO cocky whatever you know what I mean that the US sometimes age, just kind of malice. You like me, some things are as important as they used to blur, which is a fucking gift right. You know, then you come up against for me as it is a guy and older guy like you're like I'm, not married, and I have been very twice in a no kids in there's like a reason for the frail. I I don't want kids great yeah, but I don't know why you gotta be. Did you want to go
I feel like. I always wanted a so the givers on purpose. We well yeah, pretty much yeah yeah yeah yeah. No, I wanted to get a wire wanted to kill a man. I think it's just my dna to want a kid I think supposed to be in all of our dna surely landed on a primitive level, sure sure. But then you listen people to decide, look at it You can be happy you don't need that beer, then and yet they have united around here. That's that's it. That's a whole. Other thing to happiness. There were happy is relative to Armenia yourself, but if you'd, if you can get through life and in realize UNAM glad I didn't do that here, but I mean you know, look in what are we here for right? I guess you I mean I mean I'm not I'm not saying it's. It's better good. An anomaly will not either in I'm just realized. In his eye I get older than like e g. Steed user drew his eyes. A finite trip were yes
yeah we're back the death right away. You know it's like what is because I spend a lot of time repeating yourself or doing stupid shit or whatever it is they that our? your patterns and then one day, you're sort of like a I get. It makes him the choice rice right, if we're not constantly trying to be better constantly trying to affix the shit that we ve done over and over and over again we're not living right right, but also like learning to accept certain things as well right, there's some things like with is just the way it is real. Yeah yeah I get any any. Instead of beat the shit out of myself, rewrite sure sure sure, but you can fisheries yeah you can you can fix what have you why if he had success in fixing, ring general, but I get in your my everything Mammy, I envy you know whatever my goofy pass this year with relationships or how was of a mother or father, you know or being with a woman for ten twelve years and go and oh this is
the way to do it or grey regaining you're getting through things right using different tools that I didn't use before. Understanding things are not having to be right or other. They want right. I mean Oriental sat on now or are seeing the big picture of like wait. The if I can you know, make it to the end and be you know, content in he with this per Emmy. Look in your young. It's about fund right what was for me all I wanna do is have fun and ass. We get older like ok, so you trade a little bit of fun for more meaning. As you grow older, it's like artless, try to make things deeper, deeper and more meaningful relations. I observe friendships or whatever I you know right or younger. Your friend does some stupid near, like I just want to get a punch in the mouth and older, you guard. How can I help?
A friend not be an idiot, so I dont want to punish him in the mouth and write her. But when I was younger, yes, replied heads and go fuck. You fuck you here, but its I'd makes adds that we could do a hawk three whereas on what do you know when he can be fixed in? What do I mean it's just curious to me, but in a sense it like I do know for sure. Is, alas, a lot less there's a war. There are two things I felt were very important or not. I agree and in it gives you a certain amount of leeway, Mirror united me afraid. I again just falls away naturally, which is a fucking gift. Right, and now IKEA demeaning thing and also like I'm, not that I wasn't a guy that just wanted to have fun now, I'm I'm getting to that point, but it yeah forty and fifty six Mary juncture where, unlike what I'll do my life,
My my whole life was Vulcan struggle to get where I am in any like some somehow or another. The miracle of success, app and re announced should work. Why don't I want? I want to do with this right now. Just bought this house, and I love it. Those women in Shack, Sir, I don't know What do you do now, like? I lived and worked out the right, How do you do when you write plays like like the therapy play? You find you We find it you resolve in things like. Do you find through the writing process that you, you are able to enact and resolve and see things differently? Is that part of the experience no I think that maybe subconsciously right, it's gotta. You know I mean in one of the other, subduing, do dune it's usually about relationships is usually about trying to figure that out, and we were a communal, theses. Russia were supposed to be with other people and I therefore a year yeah, I'm not sure I tend to like it once I get their media getting their difficult. So anything is that anything worth digging into it.
Fuck em right. We just do the things that are easy. That's boring also gonna end up being eighty something or ninety something of shit. What did I do? You know difficult to learn how to play the guitar uneasy got guitars reality that give it that's not easy to do. You could go your whole life and I never never dug deep in the and traded of martial arts. It's, like you know it's a hard thing you give beat up and you get broke in a little bit but you're, you know, you're you! U accomplished it in any way. Going back to the question I think on, subconscious level when you're writing, somethin or acting in some here taken a photograph or whatever. It is, of course there's a part of that. That's you know: therapeutic Ray but the end of the day, if you are creative person, am I still want to want to do when I grow up, I mean that we feel that you yeah, I'm still searching for what's going to be the thing that I'm happy that I
dead. I owe that exists. To me. That's not. I haven't I certainly haven't than that. Yet not Hawaii fellow its deficit right now but you're right? It's not, and look I'm lucky enough to do something that I like enough here to give in Japan. Did you ever young man, but what to me that, like that that is a nice thing to have that gig yoke is, it does offer to a certain amount of freedom, do other things and do things you wanted. Yeah. Well, not yeah, I'm starting the photograph of work direct. My first move in the dynamo None of this book, Dallas three sixty two other Jeff problem- was actually I gotta watch every how to do it's. Ok, I mean winter festival, there had been a movie. Did I, but, for the sky so far met. He was a great photographer and he served took me through a film.
A theocracy school. Why are you I got obsessed with? But again I was just some. He trying? I mean I don't answer myself a photographer. I got really needed. In pictures? For ten years and we still do not really all that was it, I mean I did about the I don't know man like I said during the vote now. You know about me items that legacy, but I'm still trying to figure out now wait a minute? What I can be. You know when your younger you do things is what kind of wanting a pat on the back a little bare. Now you want people go. I really liked them as we all do you like them so interested in that I want to do the right it yeah. Then you gonna do I want to say something. I want people to understand this and go out. I dig this item, I'm with you and thank you for that, and then you go past that stage in you like. I just want to do something that I like to do and I feel like I'm being created but don't you find no like work. Man like comes
and if you're way about acting as some always want to try like always held him you're good at I want and what they do. But I guess there's no one sitting around yeah. True- and you know it, sir, What's the saying they don't pay, you two were to act, they don't pater, they paid away debate yet here let me I like it no one to challenge myself and I'm doing a role where I got it. You know a b, a little different than who I am would come up next week in observance about it but whatever. But I why like I'm glad I'm getting these opportunities to try it, but, like I don't know, if it's my life stand up and do my wife bit odd. We what's happening to me now is: the time where it's ok do nothing other than doing digs. Yeah man? If you as long as you got, I mean, like you, said: you're not leaving the shock anymore, but the thing is right, that's true, but like it under, I guess my point is no matter what you do. What you are you thinking your mind? I'm gonna do something. That's gonna, be the thing that I'm gonna be proud to leave, or whatever all that stuff drifts. It's all fades man,
you mean, I mean it's like what is the relative importance of fuckin anything name ones accomplished eventually, after five years, three years as I was gone, behind it, doesn't matter yet, but if you're a creative you're gonna hit, you used the word artists bulgarian artists year and you get to appoint. We don't want to do it anymore. There you're probably ready to die. I guess you're right, my cat. In ages. Right, Gunnar, crowded, bed, young man, I mean she's, I gotta do the things I used to do any more money. You know my dog doesn't run up the steps and at ball anymore? You jump up and catch frisbie skin jump up anymore. You think she's happy now, I'm in a hundred three hundred years ago, we were travelling in the dog, couldn't make it across the river. We see a dog dominated there with a right click rap on the d. You know that
lives. Now I think they did that with people, even a curative grandma could make an across the Red Army there. Remo, it's been fun, you gotta go we're moving. We can't we missed this winter. I think people still do that they just put him in homes right. I don't want to go home now. And I heard someone say: change the diaper element of look for a shot airliners. Some do not give you saying, but I get you know. I say I want to do something that I'm proud of and NGO. Ok, I did that. I heard the one I do that thing. I immediately want to move on to the next thing right or otherwise you know what's wife or at sea, no you're old, and you just want to hang out with your gallon kids. If you have kids get a new cat, sit in Red sit in red. No good now man ways rewritten twenty NEA and how they have been published. Well,
I have four plays fully Plays published through dramatists, no three and then I have a collection of plays and in that election there's about fifteen plays and those are all the plays there were like back published after I have and published in that's all the stuff that I did it playhouse West that never had a bigger production than it the house when these are things that get done yet residuals from occasionally six dollars here in the area. Have you seen productions in your place, then that you ve walked upon now I'll, never know and he do you want to do your place. I will I mean my. I would love to do a play in Europe, but I go over. You know it's like I gonna meeting and then they all that's cute Europe plays they don't take it seriously. Why I don't know with me because I'm I'm alive. Oh, I don't know, that's it though I don't know, maybe even reneging good enough. Yet for that, for that I'm innocent it's it's a tough world to get into a man, never acted in a play. I've been on
stage acting and there lay for twenty some years I've. Never on anything in New York, on Broadway, off Broadway off all right yeah and I'm not vigorously here, but that, but that seems to be I give you ve written. My twenty saw up way. That seems to be like something that one of the things his lasted the longest in terms of what you like to do sure, but just being prolific doesn't mean that you're good at it right, not yeah, of course not, but you I do and if so, what about fatherhood how's it goin dig it man? I dig it my daughters of an amazing smart, sharp beautiful human being than out she's five? Were I mean everybody thinks about the kid right? Geniuses genius either are geniuses lifted but she em, You know man, there's there's this two things in life that make all the bullshit go away and she's one of its great, but that's real
and you and you were with the mother. I do it's it's way then Actually, I don't have one, but I know that it does something to you yeah man. That's a lot of things to do How do you change you really did? Did you were nervous gone into it? Did you where you concerned As concerned. You know, like asserted: everything's, either heroes. Miller cautionary rail. So I dont everything I do and once told me, I told her- I was having a daughter. She has two kids and she had a rough childhood and near hope of my friend once told me but I was having a daughter. She has two kids and she had a rough I heard, and I said, I'm just worried. You haven't a daughter and I you know I don't want to. I know from raising. Girl. I mean I could raise a guy's slam around and me you exactly, or do my dad did the opposite of the bad, the riot in area- and she said you know,
have to do for a girl if you dont want to beat it. If you don't want her to be a strippers, just love her great you could do, perfect. I can do that now. Gdp is, is this you? How are going this is your father have just my daughter and then my sister has a son. You I get yeah, he does yeah yeah. They turn into Vanessa old men, sometimes when they have the grandkids he's the same now already with their worries. Estonia, he s in what I think sometimes taken back in a good way. They can show. Better. They convey thicket weeds one. That's the idea right right now, my heart, my girl, the other day I was talking about you, know document her grandpa were so good with her wired. The pit. Why can't their parents be is good, because when your parent, you figure in the shit out but the time your grandparent you go, I know just what to do and then, when it gets a little goofy, I can go home where they can send the getaway right, imperfect and that sir back the death man, that's like
same thing when death, like you know where young we lose our great grandparents and then we lose our grandparents and then you friends along the way and by the time your parents go you should be prepared and able to deal with death and able to condemn that. I understand that the artist cat, again Aristotle around near grandparents are, but what's the bummer right, the midday, the missing. It knows not bombers. It's like a really. It's got it certainly breaking up with somebody in the same. In the same, we want to do it panes funny. I say that because every girl that I couldn't break up with a kind of the sick feeling like well, if they just die at the yoke right, you don't you don't it well now I break up, I just don't want them to be if there are gone, and I don't have to decide whether I could have worked it out or been better normal. Don't ask me, I guess our yes, but if you like things were like it's not too long ago nights, its harrowing did too
I come to the moment where you like I'm doing rice and its head worse thing ever, it's heavy in not unlike you you putting a cat to Switzerland more final, but that young approaching in saying like right. Let's do it yeah, you know you're, not a religious guy or now you know not at all. We brought up with any I know my dad was a girl. You know like this. There are tending to be. Brought up with it and then got away from me. I don't even know how much a material for him near, but my mom was. And christian WAR so shoes. He sees it eight when she was that when she was a warning and Christian will so she was seated it when she was at once she read through the end? Yes very much so really here? were you and how would you and that happened when she started that year, fifteen sixteen ass, he saw it happen strange strange much.
Ain't it, but I do not pay man look whatever, but wherever flowed your biscuit united again, if it s one of the transitions are you? Where would you? you're happy if it makes you happy people that go after, but would you Jim Did you bring in a church and stuff I would say that we really know before Mama Similarly, I will use it the trouble when I was younger here. You know they were arrested and arrested fights while in a late night, whatever government, colleagues, clubs from fifteen sixteen years old- and you know, shoot She wasn't kind of mother. That would say, don't go, she would say. Let me let me pray for you and put put hands on you and Jesus or keep you safe, but before that value were fourteen, she wasn't doing that right now. Do you mean praying yeah me You know I mean that's a big shift from. I give whatever she was before she was born again then Vienna. How did it happen I mean that's all I mean there's a lot of different. That's a left, a long story
oh yeah yeah. I mean I mean every I'll just make it simple, you ever know any burning and Christians that didn't do a bunch of crazy ship like every other year, sure yeah, so they're all kind of going off. Maybe let me try to fix all the other law. Something lost a little bit lost that fixes omen does good for you. I mean I guarantee you that when she passed that's what made her ok with passing air when it was ok, you want to fight and she was acknowledged, good Jesus. How can we can judge it? we could also there. She pushed it out there and she got too far out there and then she need to get back. That sure would. Better than people didn't come back right. Yes, do you guys do talk about two seconds to vanish? and they shall yeah sure religions we have recently. I've got no, I just talk to Paul author Hauser the guy's, a no no you just see, I don't know he looks familiar analyses face on his billboard everywhere. He's rig
You talked to him. We do. We get, is getting some Jesus, so he's into Jesus. He grew up. Oh Jesus, Father was a minister outcome. The foreign minister, but he kept the Jesus he did but a short fat. Yet yeah me some people get away from again, whatever whatever you do, not give it a bit like there's something kind of fascinating when somebody snaps into it, he has written mad Gay saved is a dramatic right. I talk about that on stages for me to find out at this point my life, The rules the wheels were really have to come up mainly to the In other words there now it's weird that the residents and that's it I tell you in all areas, I'm just curious about when, when you other changes into the born again?
we have been in your fifteen and you're out of control. Yeah is whether it was good for me because she was like I'm and I have no worries like I'm, not worried about you going out and I'm not worried about, but real limbs that are coming by here and of doing hoodlum stuff because we're all taken care of. So for me as a kid, I write our I rate, yeah yeah, that nothing can hurt you, but there is no disagreement after that. I and even had discipline since I was twelve here so better, just sort of like the while Jesus, forgive you and did you did you nine, not forgive you you're safe here, protect their budgets in driving. I was, I was hanging out with animal. Now that it has gone out of prison, you know that Life send this because they were under age. Where he's like your fine words, you meet those guys. I don't know man, I don't know that's. How do I get exciting time I mean here, but I mean I I always you know my dad was again like he was a tough dude from queens here. So, for me,
was constantly trying to be as tough as you know, like that's what I had to live. It is right that the worst humans I get surrounding self, with more legitimate. I was as a person when I was young ever you getting validation from him. We do not view, is paying attention to that part of it, but I definitely was beer. China just yeah, he young ideas, friends, we're like israeli drug dealers and monsters in German, like I know a guy stab someone on them. That was it. So what did it take? for you. They were to get out from under that I guess. Was it like? I don't know, I'm still, I mean look at gum on this thing. The first thing we talk about is that you know not notice. I don't, I know I know going into talkin. Anybody want to know, what's it like having their duties,
you have all be under it forever right. No, no! No! I mean just at what would it take for you to realize that you you're going to be defined by different things? that's that has nothing. That's that lets you talk about, did what have you fixed over the years you're laughing? When I was your mama, were you like? I gotta get his murderer Adam. I assure you, hardly listen. I still doctor the murder. I mean I am, but I have Lena boundaries and I'm not you have to prove them older. I get em trying to impress less and less in right right. You gets himself accepted here and I know what I want to. I don't want any trouble man and one of the hang out my wife and grade and want to exercise, and you know hang out with my given and do some good creative ways, because, like you, whether likes you hiding I only know your father for movies and inform my whatever projecting onto the rarer. You know and like I used by but like you,
I knew that he was a relatively tough you bad or no other thing. No different than any other fuckin crazy Father read that a male child is trying to get to sort of. With up to where I you know, I mean sure a little more EU I gave when Tell me at my Geiger video Games got right right rather different. You can't picture me trying to live up to my crazy mother, Vulcan Father Cardono right here I mean out and I was contribute doctor. Good thing: nine have been allowed in at ease out of his mind in other ways they never hung out with jewish near mobsters. There were George certainly already allow them to do. It is a jewish drug deal here. Did you ever hear? We
it's. You remember. I met you and your yet more gathering over here and they have I go there because they have the Malerba here. You know Malaysia, which is with us, like a yemeni dish that they only make on the weekend and only reason. I know that is because a drug dealer friend it is they his wife would make it every Saturday and Sunday and we go over there and have allowed. I, like I love that place. I go there only to their restaurant, the ivory. I recognize you we'd chatting. We were going to do this and we wish you well in your my Gallia anyone. You said. Let me get you in your dad on Oh right right here, I can ask forgiveness. I was like I love him. I think he's a jerk off now giving evidence. Are you she got she's. A fan. Yeah, I mean what what that would have Great gave you in your dad on. Have him waking up? you down every eye just everywhere and listen? And yes, Sir, what do you want me to say
dark media rubbed, my dad, he just got a bag surgery. You can't even get out of bed right now and if he gave me a dirty luggage, crumble yeah in time. Man now do all the other city at the younger brothers. Have that same thing with him? I don't know I really grow up with him. Did you talk to him die But now I got, though enough. We also agreed to vote now, but I guess I respect a lot of respect. I get it I couldn't I couldn't. I couldn't tell you the half of reality because of what the risk no? I mean I just haven't. I can't there's nothing. I couldn't say a bad word about the guy here. Coins. Listen like any father, of course, there's bad shit to be said, but I don't have the balls. Nor would I ever say anything: disrespectful were I'm descried, you get closure yeah. What closure wait a minute, they're still
and it worked it out it now. You know no, no you're, right click, ok, you're, comfortable manuvers acceptance, a hundred percent guitar that was, God can published? I thought there was a nice finnish Hawaii by those currently in its fancies and on Friday, it's on CBS. You can go to deputy Pod got comes tour for My tour dates. I just people keep tell me this. I wouldn't know it by my show. Marin four seasons of Marin are on american networks. I know that north american Netflix it's everywhere, but a lot of places. The fourth season- but I know here in Amerika, four seasons or on networks, and it is being taken up networks. I think, on the thirteenth of this month. So. If you haven't seen my show want to watch it. Do it now right
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