The adage “you can never go home again” didn’t apply to Cecily Strong. She did, and it’s what got her on Saturday Night Live. Cecily tells Marc why she didn’t stick around in Los Angeles after studying acting at CalArts, a move that people told her was a mistake. They also talk about why she got kicked out of her high school, how she battles her depression, what it was like to perform for the Obamas, and why she was in a Chinese opera with Alison Brie.
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All right, let's do this, how are you what the fuckers, what the fuck bodies, what the fuck sticks
yeah you that last one as going on Mark Mare- and this is my podcast devotee of welcome to it
I imagine that some Eu Jews, or not with me today, because your praying
You're praying to guide to
right you into the book of life one more year to forgive you you're transgressions, your sins, your fuck ups,
to share your secret art with the almighty. That's! What's up today, Jews yesterday
Last night was denied. I was born one thousand nine hundred and sixty three Kol Nidre, the holiest night of the jewish year, the holiest night
and this is the first time in my recent memory that night
birth actually fell on call needs right, but my buddy Danny were Bell a scholar, a Jew
told me that in the jewish
calendar. It's always uncle near drain and, like all right I'll, take it. Does that give special powers? Does it go
me a pass I've not been a religious man. I think
my better days, I'm on the cusp of being spiritual? Certainly this
ass dear his
I stood Maya, my metal
And through physically physical ie is mental and psychological. The same. What's what put together
Certainly, I've been tested, but-
Today is the day. I don't even know how many Jews are gonna, be listening to this on the day it is released because they should be in temper, but who is going to Temple with the cove. It.
Then you should be not eating. You should be fasting today, Sid
in front maybe darkening in front of you, your laptop,
asking God to forget
If you for your sins and right you into the book of life one more year,
forgiveness is a tough one, so tough one
Sesar is strong.
Is on the show today.
We talked her while ago that was it
The season premier of Saturday night. Why is this Saturday October? Third, we
you're right before the M a little before actually where she was nominated for outstanding supporting actress
a comedy series and she's too funny person- I like her
like your energy,
talking to her soon, so I reflect I reflect
on this day, or yesterday my birthday and recording it on my birthday, you know what to do on my birthday
the eve of coal in the dry.
So I drove down the Malibu, and I sat on a rock and I looked at the,
the sky, I looked at the sea, I listen to it. I tried
the meditate a bit.
Spoke to lend spoke to God.
And I will, if you on the God part by speak out into the sky in this interesting comment-
But he Danny.
Said today is the day the guy
is closest to us today,
the day where you can
speak to God. Personally,
as if he was right here, close
Like one of us he's among
Wandering around I was born. I was escorted into this world by
because this is the day comes down and deals with shit. Apparently.
So I'm bf everybody I just wanna
Oh god right now. I don't know what you believe in
and I know this is not.
A unique prayer is just
basic, but God help us,
Deliver us from this fucking bull shit! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry
about the cussing, but I was told that we speak to you today, like you're, like one of our past,
like one of us.
Really seriously man, God, Sir,
Give us a little something to go on here.
To give us a little hope so
as through this psychotic clusterfuck.
What do we have to do? I've been asking the God that I verily believe in that I may not believing I've been asking the universe to. Please tell me what to do
am I doing enough.
You have to answer that God. Just do me a favor now that you're here forgive me
My sins or my transgressions ease my heart, please, but please up not a bigger level help us
Were struggling here. Ok,
Can we do that?
yeah. I know you brought me here on this day. All right just help me out,
just help us out
Is this a test? I know you're into that? Please, God help us. Thank you.
Get can you just got my name in the thing thanks thanks Man, God, sorry. So,
Did I tell you, I went down to the beach and sat on a rock on my birthday. Took some breaths
Did what you do with the sea.
It's. I should go to the sea. It really is.
I sat there and I was into the waves. I took the deep breaths I thought about things I talked to the sky. I watched the fishermen.
I talked to the sky as
They do in the morning. I said what
Did I do? How can I help how
can I be of service?
as the world burns,
No one in particular
I told them that I mister. I lover. I told that
to the sky.
I was fifty seven years old yesterday, tough times.
Oh yeah. I want to mention this other thing. My tv daughter,
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She placed my daughter on glow, Justine and she's
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What are you guys been up to man? I got another covert test of negative. I was negative the other day and probably still negative today, but
Tell you what I did do the other night for the first time in five months. I don't know if you can hear the clarity,
In my voice.
But I went to a secret club. I went to the secret society meeting a real one with other people
secret society meeting outdoors.
and it was a meeting that I've been going to for about twenty years- and I tell you man, I was crying ass, doing
Little bit a crying because I see people there, that's
for literally almost twenty years, walking the walk,
och trudging, the road. Why not? I needed it!
It is nice to get back into the groove of the year.
Of the language of the context
of the community.
But sometimes I could return. It was like a spiritual return.
Over this Yom Kippur South,
you'll. Get about that, and I didn't
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So yeah me and the nicest guy I know when gun shopping, and it's got me thinking. You know,
got thinking about the things we have now the things we do now.
Variety of masks, blast advisers, hand, sanitize or alcohol and mouse fee.
You're a glove, some gloves, if you need em,
this is the world we live in.
And just see how it's fucking, our brains, this in
this horrendous psychopath
ethic, non leadership at the helm, embarrassing
But I was working with guns, my boy
I'm telling you this geyser artist musician
poetic sensibility, nice guy.
He said to me a few weeks ago. You wanted, we think
guns and why I don't. I grew up with guns.
My dad had guns were guns around him. Given New Mexico, I I guess on some level
I have a problem with responsible gun ownership. I've,
at different points in my life of kind of getting one.
But I generally believe their ship magnets.
They they caught him wanna be used.
It's another relationship we have in the house, it's in the drawer, but you,
Oh it's there.
One of my favorite jokes about a gun about.
That years ago, in my
why, commissioner, we
We got robbed,
she left the door open and shoes.
Sweeping you. A scary was horrible. I was now, but you want to get a gun. I understood that
but I realise that there
My wife wants a gun at that point it at that time. There was no way
I was getting my wife. A gun Cosette would be kind,
like me, saying
wanna, kill myself.
I wanted to be a surprise when I fear
we're jokes. Thank you, five! Throw that out to you,
But I had no idea what we needed to get a gun here in California. In apparently, you just need to go. Get a gun.
You know there's a gun safety car, but she can take the test at the place and we went.
Afternoon. We drove out to Burbank and went to a place and we walked in
Now I knew I wasn't going to get a gun and I'll tell you why
in it, but we walked in it was there are few people in there
few people working there and there I we I'll help it with my
Yes, we're looking for hand guns,
they said. Well, we got his revolver sit in a case that thirty eight three hundred and fifty seven bigger ones, big revolvers, old style, the kind that I grew up with a clip gun.
I guess everybody wants the rocks, the nine millimetres
plenty, a revolvers right.
It seems like you would that be enough right, but I guess
yeah we had an hour had we're looking for glass and we
So what's the deal.
They get in, they come in,
what can the order? Em?
they are basically like? We don't know what we're gonna get in day to day, but people come every day, guy get her early in the morning and line up, and
What comes off the truck? That's? How gun sales work?
yet their earlier on
She even get yourself what you need. What you want,
For whatever reason do you think
What's coming, we want
I understand online.
But I knew I was gonna get one because, in my mind, ok
good. I said to myself already preparing for exactly anymore
do I go if they come? I want to be able to defend him. They who they mean if the other side, the
eight, the militias, the army's I mean evade. That's the warrior fighting hand.
It's not going to help you that picture. I don't think.
But when it comes down to it,
aspiration. Panic anger.
Thousands of people unemployed homeless would know where to go. No safety net, no options,
In the major cities, that's real, you think that
Leadership could help that out or weak it out that out somehow, as opposed to prepare
or to kill them tragic
That was my reasoning. Really for
I'm not gonna buy a gun
to shoot? Angry desperate people will follow
through the cracks.
And are roaming the streets of our city.
Trying to survive, creating chaos,
that's what they're living in a man
by a shoot, those
before my fellow Americans, who have fallen on hard times.
No I'm going to move the fuck out of this city is what I'm gonna do it
you're afraid that you're cities going to follow the lawlessness in chaos. In here
by God. Why not not by the gun and try to get the fuck out.
It is a bit scary how easy easily people can buy guns and how many there are out there and how
There really is no effect,
way to track it. There doesn't seem to be much background. Checking, obviously guns safety is important for can have it, but I understand that
an amendment. I understand the fear which
frightening to me is reasonable
progressive people with good hearts
Are now sort of drifting into this mode of panic?
in fear word. They need to arm themselves and right.
It's their right. I get that, but it sir. It's
It's a severe indication of
Of where we're act.
I told them Massimo. What did we I'm? You could probably just get the thirty eight.
The old Saturday night Special,
he's right, but then we have to reload. Unlike what are you picturing she wanted for
to protect. Your house were too, you know
I mean honestly. I would think that what you need is just a fuckin shot, gun,
That seems to be the way to go. I'm not get one.
And it's sad of this this pattern
this device and fuck has caused us.
Drove out to Malibu sat on that rock all the way down. I listen to her
Am I a
great brazilian artist? I listened to her. No
I can live forever on, repeat man on repeat it
he's an in character in I enjoy that song. Just a straight up. Some must a fragment of a song system.
A little three cord, slightly psychedelic, funk groove.
Nobody can live forever,
one thing you have to agree with and that's
For sure no
He can live forever and everybody is the same.
Sooner or later, you're dinner.
He understand that
nobody can live forever. Nobody will know how I feel, no body
can give the answers. Nobody,
can play, but for real.
There is, no God there's. No Heaven, there's no devil. There's no hell,
Don't you worry.
Don't you worry.
Play your music.
Play your music dig yet
happy birthday, Dumay juice.
Be honest with God, people
hey my dad's colony hold on hello,
Father made on my father,
My brother, I'm ok, how are you dead
Fifty seven years old, PAL
Thank you. How are you doing? I love you too yeah,
Oh, I will not really I'm just doing the pie, gas and staff, and today I went down to the beach
Many by myself and sat on a rock
And network sent me a nice, the gift baskets
I ate some cheese.
And you know I'm just trying to have a birthday over Here- bought some fish
Might eat some mighty some iced hers good.
I like to be after par, why you dead? Ok, you to buy em up to par
Sir solely strong is here Saturday. I live is back this Saturday October. Third, we talk
prior to the Amis.
She was nominated for the outstanding actress in a comedy series.
And down I'm a big fan of hers. Here we are here we go
this is yet. How are you? Can you see me? I can? How are you nice to meet you nice to meet you do? How could we never met each for up? I think so
I guess I mean we have
we did it with you now really quick,
the other. I think I was up there. I was there. I was it s an hour once what was it
we're not there. I remember I was interviewing Lorn and I saw sir
That's right! I saw some people, but not you know. I hide.
I am well I'm not in the hallways. Now, I'm usually on a couch as ETA, seen as there are always seen, even if there is no one tell me, I don't know about it.
Where are you hold up? I mean right back, that's nice! It's really really nice, young chow!
buy a house here now I've I've fallen in love. With this
If New York, the others a bunch of those will towns up, there were people used to buy houses back in the day.
I guess they still do. I've had a friend who had a house in rhyme backed pretty yeah friends nearby does at the Hudson Valley, yeah
and how the house had been going up there in the in the quarantine. Have you had Dick have yet tests?
yeah covert tests.
No I haven't. We, it's only been my friend cabin and I ve been we left
twenty? Fourth, I I did it
voluntary quarantine for two weeks from marks twelve March twenty four year, and then that says I've been.
With someone who had covered are really yeah, but I didn't I mean I took my temperature with this thinking,
hello, thermometer, eighteen times, the dire. That's fine!
I don't think I have it, then, as the person who had it all right. Yes, he's better
That's good! I mean we're still it's. You know every day and new article comes out: that's troubling about everything,
everything right, but the noise
oh well, you might have- or
Damn! Thank God!
as if I need anything else to to make to make me
think someone has or can take with death. I Marty, assuming it
that we all have organ damage, never I'll die, sent every worse. Some contest-
How are you handling that? Do you go like? What's your stress, whoever you I mean, can you handle it or do freak out?
You know I've been better these days. Maybe getting
Is that more and I have a psychiatrist and that their person will be trim and then access? I mean well
future and that works for you, that's yeah. Really I really like it. I've been done, then, a long time either.
The period right did some wild beauty and used to be prescribed
you're not acquitting smell yeah right
had a different aim. Well, I think I knew it as well future, but my mom was a nurse practitioner for a long time
the first time I took it was just briefly to quit. Smoking do the work and college near her now, but I
Smoking does not bow, and now you just take it for your brain now, it's just for my brain usage,
back me up like speed, I used to feel like you used to get me crazy. Really, I think so, but maybe
am, I might have, I think, been doing other things now
right. I think I'm so tired, psych. Nothing can jack me up.
And then nothing it put me to sleep ever ever home, like every team to get too bad. Your mom was a nurse. She I think
I fully retired. Now she was the nurse you ve started in public relations for a long time and then, when she was forty six, she went back to school to be a nurse. She got divorced
and then she went there?
She became a nurse practitioner pop. Would rules clinic relaunch time and almost
got them to union, but a really didn't
yeah she's, a union leader type of person, yeah
I mean you, you have to be a fear from Chicago interests and our player,
She divorce your dad and forty six, while my dad decreases hair, but now I mean it's fire yeah my parents have.
First one. I was older to its a weird thing:
where you have that moment, re like so what was going on the whole time yeah. Why
I was ten or eleven and it was well ok. So I have my doubts, been married to my stepmom for longer
now. I think I was
Thirty five, it wasn't add traumatic. For me.
I think it was probably dramatic for me
as part of the well be achieved. Maybe the army attends that's rough, one, your folks get divorced at ten yeah I mean there's that's hard to say that's wrath
starting with everything. I guess it depends. How goes after. Do you know what I mean? I mean the rat re no traumas trauma. Do you have that you have other siblings and stuff? I do. I have an older brother and I
ever younger stepsister and an older step brother, while people yap when you grow
the whole time in Chicago well just right outside Europe in a park. So now,
I only say Chicago to people who are not from their home. I like Chicago, have grown alike it over the years. I mean I I I went there a lot over the last decade and it's got a real
like thing of its own, its own cool place,
yeah? Sometimes I love it and would have liked,
pride and then sometimes I might well. What do you think what
What causes that shift you now? I think,
The only thing I can say at the top of my head that I remember- and this is so lame to use this as an example of why I think that, but it was some.
When I went to New York like immediately, I got invited to a next came and they really treat you really well it s there, and I was
like an nobody on the show and we still got to sit on the cord and go to the owner, see everything- and I thought well, the Basel do this.
Payments my momentarily now, and then
now we were way in the back and like Geneva.
At the end.
I believe she were on the court nose like that things are like stars from Chicago what a bummer.
Any Mccarthy's Chicago STAR yeah
You guys made her hey. I sir I mean
I prefer to talk about Michael Jordan and I think we'll we are forever will be in the conversation because Michael Jordan Overshoot
whose ember up about up YAP Rock a bomb, of course, and a lot of the other there's some really sketch performers it. We should cargo William Bill. Marie S, part of its area, bill. Murray's important, is an issue cargo bill. I think so I think everybody with at least ensure that I don't I get confused ever whose in Asia and in whose thinking Chicago so winded,
you start like getting the interested in in actually doing performing Ray
the little care I started yeah. I was
lead. I was then I just always
singing and dancing and being
weird out around the house. I didn't impression upon the shonkin. Had
I from Beetle Jews are you do that, for you,
and so did I,
that was the funniest runner he's only in that one sunniness impact
and he just turned to look at people to sit, and it was a great look you're not in between any more. I don't you know, I'm not that anyone I mean, I talk about it, but then my
put me, and I was the only
Grubbing up park said this is the Very oak park sounding pre school, but I went to
Bourbon Child development centre. Roberts
I got you know. You're in trouble.
Well, maybe I mean, or its very o park in its run by two to lesbians, with an acoustic guitar.
What is your bar characterize it for me so well up park is
When I grew up, then
is now I'm pretty sure, but it so the Frank like right, Ernest Hemingway, that's all of part, its
It's just right on its borders, the causes the trains go to operate the
axes are getting higher good schools, but it's made the taxes go up,
but it was very when I grow up. I was lucky enough that it was pretty
economically religiously racially whatever.
You never lets. You grow up around a lot of people in an ideas like that,
you just like frankly right now, Ernest Hemingway that sort of get it frank, put right.
I'm an intellectual alone. I can say those surnames, lesbian, preschool, yeah, ok, sure they sent you there and that's when everything started. I took a drama class yeah and then am I had my first play. I did with grapes of wrath at the village players. Who knows a oh. I assume you
Quite a child. I flagrantly Chad, who was twelve sow
Ok, I have a bigger say:
and now you did you realize that you wanted to be a stage for your life. Reside it absolutely yeah nice for Sir Dad and my uncle is a producer in New York and was always
against that. Really I knew he couldn't be any more. He was an answer because he knew the life you were heading into.
Our concern for you, yes and then I think my months. Only recently we had some relatives,
she had some relative? That was,
worried. I become an erotic,
become a neurotic or something that's yeah. Well, she was right now. There's the diagnosis, should
neurotic. What do you come from? What are your people? Do you come from Juicer what now my family s and my dad
and his brother were millet. Were army brats super while speed, but all their families, southern
so I dont know them very well
and my mom was was speak to her. She grew up in New York and her dad was like
Manhattan admin man all time
we had met but being a wasp means, and you get it
the surprise. I made them both sick dna tests
and I made my mom took a dna tests than there were six spanish and scandal.
Avian and their role in such high numbers than us like mom, see your grandmother
a great grandmother had
different baby. You didn't tell the truth. I'm paid right, so you have a lot of our spanish anew and Scandinavian. Not alive just worry and whatever grandpa I think it's like,
and who know I mean the numbers are ten percent to fifteen
percent on one of the dna tests. I've done better luck at some point.
So you the day was like a military kind of guy yeah
he grew up that certain named after my grandfather, Colonel Cecil, strong, whose now in Arlington, but my dad had to answer the phone curls.
Residents William speak in the debate,
when your house, our houses like armpit farts than right like too far
jobs and panting bites and very remaining there. I think those are the community glass we're looking for. I think we found them he yeah
we lost. We did not have any of that discipline. Armpit farts
Mr Fogg, about armpit with parts in awhile, I've tried so hard for years said be able to do
and every now, and then I could do it, but nothing consistent now,
it's not a consistent. It's not my resume, you know
I try to be honest, son, my resume you have to.
But it on reservation to say,
they say occasionally: armpit farts, sometimes
I mean that sir anything,
people ask for a special scale. It's like the most terrifying moment, because I don't have any economic
that's the skills, and I can make this weird noise. I can only say I'm not, but I can't go horseback riding. I'm not a sailor now the sailor
What I can do that rural world- that's good, that's I mean I think
having a more pride, more practical than were fresh air, so
when you went to high school,
so what did you do? Other plays in things on idea? Had colorful highschool career that were you in jail? Well, get high, may sort out,
so I I was
then theater and I love doing them.
I said I was then like Joe.
The squire and I got a stray days, but then I also like
I got the first bag, a pot I ever by day
found an I got, hacked curves and like marks through school,
rested in less than an hour and then I got expelled first semester.
My guy, that I went to catholic School for the
end of the year to get
at the end of the year and then I went back to public school. I got super depressed. They felt, like you know,
I wasn't gonna graduate on time because I didn't have consumer at the consumer's adder and enough Jim credits, which was so like.
Just I was understanding bureaucracy for the first time I was like well, you know what
to do that and I dropped out
so the library in the park every day, and then I wound up my senior year. I went to
have academy for the arts, and I I found my people and I did some correspondence
since then. I graduated on time found other weirdos figure, but
super pilot public high school yeah
and that was jute sophomore year,
that was my sophomore year, and I remember like asking the security guard if he could check the cast list for Shadow Box
you see if I've gotten Beverly what
we're taking you out in cuffs. I did get the wrong. I didn't
and so the
suspended from there for a year, a fax Diana, full expulsion hearing and
then, like you know how you did appear, say the average national mare. Whatever ass, I was, I got a letter saying
you're an ass with America commended scholar, but
it wasn't allowed within a three by black radioset, my high school, and they sent you to catholic School for the rest of that year will know they wanted to send me to like a number of men school in Chicago and weak. We decided to do catholic school. Instead,
he went to a, but you know what I'm kind of glad
because it was such an experience in itself. Seeing like having to go to school about that. You know that
Catholics in Chicago wishes. I read a lot of. I have a lot of great italian name that yeah
No, no ukrainian one. I learned about confirmation. Now
this part of where I wasn t it was kind of like on the west side. It was in river flow
I saw it wasn't in the city, but
the italian IRA Porter.
Again. She met some character
I dared yeah
there is girl, gel resolve,
the first time I met her. She a big bruise on her arm because her boyfriend Canyon,
Can you help me with a league bar
and then one day she couldn't sit down instrument because I went in
twice because they were once in a country's MA. Am I to go and look?
he lifted up her skirt and our whole ass was like bright red super power and fell back. I've never wasn't part of my life,
and then he got out of air. He escaped went to art
their went back to public school and then was just.
Started getting super depressed. Why
I mean it's in my family anyway, my brother had really bad depression. Growing
still there we all- and so I guess this was like my time
and am I would
You know didn't late at night like then my mom was just keep driving and I'm is not drive West,
go and make rise in this fall asleep with the car
running in its warm and everything the music I like.
And those where early
I went to the home. I d never try anything, but then my mom is kind. I now you. This is not good enough
I went to the family psychiatrists family, one yeah,
is she told me I should I was very shit, colored glasses, so I knew I liked her.
As opposed to the rose coloured glass eye glasses,
yeah, no suicide ideation is not does not great, though it's a hobby of mine here makes me
makes me feel better sometimes, but there still alive it dies
a joke about it. That I see you. I I think about suicide. All the time not there
gonna kill myself. It just makes me feel better. Knowing that I can, if I have to
leaving me enough that Mamma we like ha, I could always kill myself right now. I can keep our young exactly so. So that's why
you started getting treated for the depressing yeah
so yeah I started their name.
And it was really good and I got I forget, you know psyched answer the presence of cancer
the long way. I think I was unlike supplying or something good yet you're on one of the classics
one oh geez and I've been on and off. That's why I really like well beaten, because it's like, I filled the least amount of side effects and
like I'm, not I don't feel if I'm never going. There were feeling
dragged or whatever I like the soldiers to shall pass surgery,
the foundation of not locking India. The spin,
which, and it's a big span, I still spin- I go hard I might but the dread.
The irregularity well beaten is good for people move spin
It's good for dread. It's the tornado! You now!
what did I understand them? Every yes yet and itself
we very negative, and you now fatalistic
heard of a positive spiral. I think that's like when you manning
the shrew. That's true, that's
viral group were everything's going your well. Yes, I have a lot of mental illness and my family, so I've been on the other end of the phone for positive spiral out, but you know
by power Deah. What's your diagnosis, some Yang depressing site, boring nothin, specify
depression and anxiety. Yeah. I have the anxiety I don't know from depress. I would know anymore my dad's depressive. We have it in the family, but I definitely a tract most of it to do.
Varying degrees of anxiety, sure yeah cause it
you get really anxious. You'll go into a paralysis that is kind of like
fresh yeah, but it's not
moreover, dread thing like I,
I can tell the difference between depression
paralyzing dread to her right. Do you think,
Oh, I see now sometimes I'm like the paralyzing dread in it.
Just like what it leads you to its exhausting and it's the anxiety. I feel much more physically weirdly enough
and then the depression
I get my hormones get on mister. I take seasonal birth control and I have four
Here's a nurse I only get for periods a year because I get so depressed just
from just for my hormones. Changing
and that's when I have to go like this, is in real. This isn't gonna last June.
Yeah, I mean that's. The trick is if you can actually step out of it to be like
This is my brain
dragging meal along here yeah, I guess
I am responding to something my brain is manufacturer that has no bearing on reality right yeah in high school. I remember you know going fear like witches. What's my
personality? And what's my illness off the worst
that that sort of, like a am I a whole self right, is this
understand me are
because I'm having vanity but
and I think, like IRAN, virus really brought it all back like you know, worked on. It worked on it for you
errors and then all of a sudden being
alone in my apartment for two weeks and not knowing what
happening in having someone second wondering. If I said I
it was like a day's redcoats it. I'm gonna, choose anxiety today,
and unlike announcement of shoes, depression and start, you know drinking at turning the minute. I wake up to just try to go to knock myself out right, yeah
a lot of people having had experience of their definitely spending time with you know, either
fighting who they really are or with they who or with who they really are. Yet with us,
you know I it's it's all
broken by. They haven't you, no doubt with that yeah I really
our time with that with that sort of the struggle for
who am, I is this: like disease
at make me me am I like, should I drew? Should I dress like that guy, you know like I can't fucking deal with right. I think it went onto like maybe a year or two ago, bans pray,
still going on. Did you have that now? I think I am
I think I'm now I love not having to think I
Fidel. Nor have I the thing I like you know what I did. I a hundred percent believe that I'm a person who likes to
share, joy and be
fallen, I want common,
from there, and you know it
they say, I'm sorry. I love to. I bought,
like a dog sometimes, but I don't enjoy,
you or fight you know. That's the thing I enjoy when I feel best is coming from that place, like a happy laughing, run its course
By that I mean that maybe I should get on well beauty
not down to the generic, makes your handshake through. That
those tell anyone I took it got me crazy, ever Angie. I would like to add that I found something
not an ad. It was like a public service thing and I had a drink, a glass of water and I just started it and I was taken the people
and I d like Donald Trump taking art, so
the goods? What's not least so tell me about a man here.
The evolution of joy here. So when
finally got to the art high school and he found your people really
like relieve, is that where he started to realize it's ok to be a weirdo
totally I'm I always say like. I think I was the coolest.
Our ban. When I was eighteen cause, I was around dollar,
people who introduced me to their favorite music and are, and I had a really good friend this girl who lived with me, shoes, Japanese and she
in exchange student and she looked at me and she was so funny shudder, hair per
it's like Bob Dylan, and it's like one tooth that kind of stuck out and she was a Zen Buddhist and a paint
while she had cancer
I'm going to school in a hospital until she came says Chicago and and
the wound up the asian crisis. She was just like a super important person, my life she lifted me and then, after I went to college, he stated my house then lived my mom until she was done with icicle. Also shoe
with you at your family, how yeah yeah a while she was
she took the bad and sheep. I didn't really painted these. She got sticks from outside and painted them.
Black blackened, bent them and made like a canopy for her bed, so choose
inspirational artist, see lad very like TAT and she hardly spoke any English. But I think I appreciated that. I had a lot of friends who didn't speak: English screwing up, really not a lot
but I think I appreciate
someone who built like I mean they have to feel like an outsider bet
there is something like what we have to find other ways to communicate, and that was kind of funny to me. Are you start,
such with her now so my
when she laughed when she went back to Japan. I had a close friend,
pass away right around the same time and it was really like my first big loss and I was like an just was
at the same time, in a kind of lost her info and light.
I've tried to look for her over the years, but her Maggie
in the Congo. I said, there's a so many and if a sort of with her being as like then Buddhist as she is, it was kind of like you know. This is the way it supposed to go, and
Matthew. Was this part of my life and if I meant to me
here again, I will so when you,
at the hour I would
will you primarily doing she was sorry that she was a painter and a sculptor and stuff? Yes,
was theatre, nothing cool and you
stood straight up. Like you know, you were you taken mad the act in classes in Alaska, yeah, Saigon Theatre for a long time anyway, and then I went to college part time, I've got might be a Faye franca colors.
I have some people want to cowards. I know it's a small scale, but a lot of people Malleson Bree yeah. I she was a year of me
We were friends, you were yeah
these great I do. I do a show with her and also Don T,
we're. Friends, too, are used as saying that putting that Andand cheetah, but if you can't say no now ran right, yeah Alison and I did a Chinese
opera together really. Would that be?
appropriate. Now I think
What I mean I don't know one another name would be as they call it was
directed by changing and Stephen
The music goes copied pleasant fan. Stephen merit, yeah,
from a really again. It's like theirs
the Beijing opera style and we had these to others.
Who instructors, who were like I'm really big deal in chinese opera who came to try to teach us there was like stick move
then fan work and a lot of flowers,
Yeah, I was not ever good at it. It was a lot of work which is part of
class worker is its in class. I offered Chinese up. Air is something now we shall. I dare say it, so
among came in Stephen met.
Came in we're gonna do, as is our man yeah right and work that I girl and it was the opening of red tat. They did this. So if your family,
with the red TAT theater, I gotta take my special there. Oh ok, well yeah, so you
probably seen, there's probably a picture somewhere on the wall. Anna I'll go back and work, I'm sure there must be some,
ensuring the of the chinese
opera that you guys did so
he doing comedy not yet
so I didn't really do comedy. I mean we did some funny shows and I was like I was
a person I think, but I was a serious actress until after college
now. What kind of decision is that, like you, just sort of you
without a college, a cow
arts. And then what do you do?
State around allay for a minute, I took a closet, the groundlings, because my teacher said he
I would do well, and I was sort of like will see an eye.
I've debt and there now you know
like I can go back to Chicago, get a really much cheaper apartment. My parents can buy me groceries, remember in need lights
classes- and I started at second city- see that was the big question liking. Looking at term you're, my research was like: how do you go from
cowards and then just go back to Chicago to disguise,
The groundlings was the hinge. That's where you
I turned on to it
yeah you're, a nice guy I do like
talks at power? It's about. You know cause people
Captain me you're, giving up if your movie now to chicago- and it was like number one and twenty four twenty five.
Resolved and I don't
gonna be none of this field.
Good. Yet and I'd like I'm, I'm a fortune
dollars an hour it wearing a blue apron and selling wine at green plants, which was
but it was I I wasn't gonna
like what I thought it. My life would be didn't feel like it existed there anyway,
yeah man Overland diary,
yeah, I'm right, yes,
then on sunset, boulevard,.
I drink a lot of good wine there, though that's nice, so
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Chicago you like this. Is the life
Yeah, I moved in with my friend Caitlin. We a part mapping each paid like three. Seventy five. I worked in restaurants and
second city and I worked a plan parenthood for two years or so yeah.
Anne and taking classes and like doing shows for
people in the audience, wherever you can do them,
What was the plan parent her job
I was the receptionist at the corporate office in Chicago
and that's I opened all the mail to, and it was sort of like when someone calls which they live.
That the first person they speak too?
did you just do. That was that these you feel like it was your social responsibility. Here
I mean I've always been.
Like. Oh, I want my dad within public relations, but
firms at a lot with like the Democratic Party in Chicago here, and we ve. Just though, is skewed sort of,
So I really wanted to work for a plan. Parenthood and
I've got to be. The receptionist right was there.
Maybe Chicago's different, where you afraid to work Eric liked
they get letterbox. We know well yeah and I would open all this crazy mail. That was this full of so much hey a really, but am
and I had to open the door and we like them. You buzz one door to open it and then to get back. You'd have to buzz another door, but it was
like we weren't they
Clinic in Chicago where they performed abortions, we're just the clinic near ass, did all the other
ran regular others at eighty, eighty percent of things, but apparently the birth control rights screenings,
in writing. Ro the bad shooting,
have to deal with the M, which has the pain of of
the decision every day with people coming in now. But I do remember that
artillerist killed. While I was a reception, and that was a very scary day and thing I just sobbed.
Parking lot talking to my down on the phone
their an animal like you know, with tough, also just every
Angle Day, seeing so much hate that
like this is mainly
it's not really religious. When their writing those thing they're, saying close your legs, you horses slots you here.
I mean it was just like really awful off. It was hey
and then, if there was like a woman of color on our flyer that would send out it would be even worse and was just now
and start nonstop here and now
Ok, now we live in that every day I now yeah,
So why did you get you gotta? Be a fair amount, amateur your masters here. Now I'm a bachelor. I thought it
big fucking, asshole too great gray, lot
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I don't know why why trivialize it like that?
You know why I don't as much anymore, but that's because I paid off my loans, you ve done
can you get a chinese opera? I love Keller. I got to go to France. I went
I took it around France at right after I graduated with them, so I left it
That alone is worth the loans show.
The, when did you start work,
professionally fur weight which company did you work for the improved business, Sal
Why did some professional theatre as a kid?
and then, when I started my
first real job in Chicago was. I did a cruise ship occur
ship. I did a step with Alex whose on my show- and there is a group of five of us-
We did very watered down Scutcheon Improv for Christian,
for months, you're on the ship for four months.
I mean how long will the cruises
Most of them were a week. There is a couple
There were two weeks when we
the Canada and fall, but most
Did you enjoy, it was weird, be travelling with the audience
the time well, my mom had meekin, where I was like. There's nothing more luxurious than crews subjects your months, I think I love
and by the third month it started feeling a bit more like I'm stuck here
I wanna ride, haven't spent the night on land and so
thank you now when there is bad weather we just get sick Alla time admit in
the food is, gets a little weird. Doesn't it yeah yeah
and you had to do how many shows a week. Well, we didn't have to work a lot. That is to say, I just got like. I got, fattened drunk
There were only deadline, we did
to sketch, as we can to improve, shows
and then you just like Ramadan work out and I'm gonna write.
And I did liver
so now, how does it shift tadeusz shift from cruise ship
to ESA now what happens? What it is tat? Well, when I got back to Chicago, I started touring with second city, so I got to see all
different parts of Wisconsin in Ohio.
And then I was not only those that I now yeah.
I've been all around the MID West.
And work with the same people, but
then? I did so, but I am. I right did a couple things that I am when I worked in the box office. There really liked I out and,
That's showcase there that I got hired from ok
problem is not really like. There is not really a logical jump from that.
As the now anyway. That's not me
the thing that makes sense nor get it
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Companies are second city and I are right. Yeah I mean there's there
a bunch of Chicago death, there's annoyance to that's a big one, our young annoyance right right right now, so I started by
who destroyed the annoyance right, MIC, Napier,
yeah yeah, but
What was the audition process for you? How did it happen?
China asked me to do it and I didn't
think I was ready and there is like you know, everybody who shot information.
Ran. I now ok,
and so she was running the show case and it was like every
and said we can only audition once and then mortal get sick of you. So you better have a really good one and so
didn't think I was ready and I didn't do. I wasn't a stand up and I didn't do a lot of sola work and I didn't do impressions, so I just
I took a workshop on an solo, workin impressions. I am, I think, what I did that worked with. I just tried to keep every
In short, a lot of people get really indulgent like doing SAM, Elliot or something I think
it's dark side that good to fill a minute. This right and there's like two other guys doing Samuel yet tonight, but you so you you actually for the addition of New was coming up. You took those glasses or you could now it yeah
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that way, bright, regular
didn't you impression. I did.
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Sophia regarding the first sign, but I did her like selling a pair glasses.
Make you look like you're away, like your eyes, are open zombie glasses so that you ve been working on a joiner. Give you are you on
I'm gonna break some news for you place right now,
commonly Harris was just selected by that.
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this great news baser tell you gotta show.
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so I did. I mean what I did everything with eighty
This is really nice. We had the same. I love our same yeah.
You too, and having heard like we really, we went to the
first screen task. That was all women, and then I was, I flew,
on the next day and as I'm in the car from the airport, we got an email saying we fly back,
They just want to hang out with you in the office says. That's like that crazy tests or whatever
and then there is another screening tests, so I had to come up with new
The things that I didn't have ready.
And then another. Then we got thrown out one last seconds to meet with more and that when I was tired. Originally I what he didn't quite
no when he wanted to start man cast. His was gonna
for me as a writer
and then I found out that week. I would join the cast. It went from one
better to cast a quick in a way tat. I went like I guess, I'm about to learn how to be a writer policing
and you didn't have to now. I didn't have their. I got this.
They are both. What sort
characters. Did you audition with just out of curiosity
I would like the impressions. I think I did
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fronting the other justices about someone taking her
Tommy Salute poster.
rolling out of the carpet unilateral and she got up and left him.
You won't be my boy by surprise.
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strands. That's where used to smoke ass, a teenager, and there is one nearby called mother's day, and I just member this, which are set out three PETE bolster
on her arm loves, but there is
really chubby little boy and at the end of their meeting, went
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cigarette area and make it just get an early pass this outright and sit on its great? That's what my few
to be. When is it going to come back fuck so
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and there now
you know it. Then it says
now so you're year stressed out,
all the time you're like it's. My do you know,
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it's like you can't complain to anybody, because it's a dream job and who would understand you cry
events sketch comedy anyway, we review
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I think I am
for a while? I was like I just someone, and only I dont want to be sure born into this one thing I think, like I'm a lot
weirder than I get to be known. I love playing straight roles and I love being able to support other people and.
But it's also fun like I just start. I wanted to do physical comedy in the past couple years, which I,
hadn't really gotten to do, and that was
like a new thing for me,
My seventh year, two conscious we do physical comedy yeah and I think it was like part of it was because that keeps it like. I don't know, what's gonna happen, if I man besides flying- and am I stress my friend
answers. Writer is always put,
the live animal and then you don't know, what's going to happen,
I kind of like bad that I'm doing this. I live tv and I don't know, what's gonna happen soon,
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be able to do it.
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he's not going work hands
so really, I'm looking out for them
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that you are more playing yo straight
actors any were kind of like out their characters and then went and then like two, so that
the uptake gig must have been like all this. That's right,
wait. You sat in its ways in a way I,
yeah I mean it's. I am more, I feel really thankful. I got to do it and you know I was such like such a family
sets and he was our head writer and I think, he's so brilliant and like cigarettes
it's a do that with him was a really big deal. My second year,
but I did I missed it. I would get like found a jealous of other people creating new
characters and update what sort of
folded with a gig
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thing that happened. It was a sort of it did
I feel like it was working out. It didn't feel grey
Like and I didn't than one like, but be stuck to that
right in one only do update and it felt like updates gonna need to be having.
Each revision and kids
accept any more and it was
Well, I don't want it
walk away, serve
and then, and then at one at the end of the summer I felt like ours should I have done that we set a bad move and I had a quick like fear.
For a moment, but then I am happy the way it worked out and I love Michael J Yeas growth due to you talk to learn about it, you're, like a kind of one or two characters.
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A lot like at that point?
What's that we weren't as close as we
I mean he I was.
It concerned with.
Yeah being able to do a bit
It is kind of like I want to be known as an addition.
Does again like I'm grateful or something, but it was like I don't want to just. I don't want to be known for update and like a not great update. I want to do I like doing care
that's really fun
and I wonder you like that's what I might make the bulk of what I do on the show b and now you ve got
like a hundred of them.
Sign Wikipedia somewhere tons of characters,
did you I do in the White House corresponding you. Actually, I did and everyone kind of sad
It's a Louis, don't do it, but I was sorry
big fan of Obama.
Being from Chicago and so like getting to have my whole family there. That was basically like my wedding,
My god I need to get married now I got to have that with my family dinner next to Michelle Obama, you now
I didn't really quite care. I thought it went well, but it is more important suggestions.
Then I got to tell a bundling thank you. It was this
it's important to do that and my family. My brother set off the Confetti candidate Obama
the Senate when and it was so
Sweet my brother than talking to Michel and broad and open.
As very like
you know it was like a little bit robotic at that point because, yes, a shave. However many hands a danger. You brought forth Verona, but then my brother came up and
he has a bit of a study is the big guy news
telling me branda confetti can news. I and the other one is broken, so I was the only one who could run it and about well. Thank you.
We in this house, I think I remember that nevertheless visit the nicest people to have that moment. Let them so I'm super happy. I did it. That's great, so nice show
What do you think you're up for an Emmy right?
I've which was super. I mean that's funny to say, but it's
that feels like. I was never expecting it,
the wind entirety line in that way now
so like the kid is. Never
one any awards service very popular, so I've never put too much
doc and words, but I getting to have,
a day of a lot like friends and family, especially when you haven't seen people so long texting year with anything setting his champagne, it's nice to get to talk to people in it.
It was said that was a really really nice day to have its also its eyes to have the recognition from your peers,
but I mean I think I've found
I found I was there. I like found other ways to feel like
I'm I'm good enough or whatever you need in your right. Pierre doing the same shall said this was kind of just a really nice feeling bonus.
Oh, that's so interesting, so you know there you don't have any insecurity about doing the job anymore. Now
now, which is, I know, that's bizarre, but I'm sorry
I think I like to do
I'm kind of late. Let's let the other causes do those those straight character
reporter do all these things that I did
and then I'll just come in, and I want to fly with chance and that's all I want to do. You know what it? What are the kind of characters you I took you are doing. I gum kind of big did cheek
character. Sometimes or dead,
I think, like my favorite thing
women who have no self awareness, or
like they have so much confidence and no shame they're, not embarrass. You know
having a freak out anywhere. I like Ireland
those women here,
the ones they like in public I'll. Just there is based
are the scene and you have to watch them. It's
out of tyranny. Now there's a word for it. I suppose you were there,
does that not just Karen's or just sort of like you, narcissistic kind of like Blue,
Oh hearts! I may I do you do
Don't you do you do Piero right
yeah yeah yeah likes. He notices drunken
boil hard. You didn't give a rat. Where I got I mean like we turned her into just a silly clown anyway, where I get to tell parliament calling my favorite is time. He loves it sam. You know out sometime, I have
this. I do you mind if I throw up on you but he's like that's great
Well, that's fine, and because I guess cause you're, not that kind of person or are you or in Europe.
Is there a fantasy of yours,
now I know by night.
Don't think I am now I'm like I midwestern it's my nightmare d like be free,
black radius of anyone complaining to a manager ever unlike
Don't send it back please and send it
I was joking. I was at a restaurant, the other night or not the other night when one to ten years,
the guy who knows, marks or February
my friend and I were like the rest.
Then said they were up, they should have been open and this guy could be might well.
Clothing, but you can come in, you can eat.
You can order this or this or and we were like
by the end of it. We are joking like we're. Both China take this man home we're being so like a whole thing is so great you're, so one we're so Palais. Any word. Tipping am well look
you gotta go. I hear okay,
where you going now.
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a foulon that'll be fine work thanks, you're talking to me, and my congratulations stay here is this: I am a big fan. I think you're, wonderful, thanking you for talking to me
yeah. It was great and congratulations on the nomination and when we get through this, if we get through this army
you in person- yes
come back to this? If I for another fifteen years rig,
good play, I hit the paycheck I'll see you later
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sweated out, Jews, get it out
everybody else. You know.
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a birthday, the whole band back together. So here we go. Are you ready on the cow
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