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Episode 1202 - Sam Neill

2021-02-18 | 🔗

Sam Neill never had any ambitions as an actor, which is not true about his ambitions as a wine maker. Speaking to Marc from one of his vineyards in New Zealand, Sam talks about how he’s still striving to make the greatest bottle of wine as he lives a sort of double-life as a very familiar face on screens big and small. They also discuss Sam’s ideal music festival, their shared love of Randy Newman, the therapeutic reason Sam started acting in the first place, his new movie Rams, and his own ram named Jeff Goldblum.

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how's it going. I'm sorry, if you're out there and your freezing to death literally, I'm sorry. That you're going through that there's nothing worse than being cold and not being able to get warm. I hope, you're. Ok, I hope you have quilts. I hope you have a space heater, don't set yourself on fire. I don't know What's going on with where you are But we do it the idea. the tenement. He way of your in New York. You have that radiated. Other radiators freezing is the hissing stopped. Has that horrible dry heat hiss, you gotta put a bike. Baking baking, ten For water, under those things you just out all the liquid will be taken out of your body
sorry name that tune. That's my fuckin radiator in New York City. I, I tell you, I've never been more grateful to be in California when it's not burning, then, at this point. If your moment, everybody like it. You gotta, move to Texas. I think I'll wait. I think I'll wait on the big moved. The text is not that it was on the menu but I guess this is the way it's gonna, be all over erratic, whether who knows whether beyond what we can handle with the structures that we put in place. The infrastructure we built was not for almost on survivable temperatures in conditions so either we fuck and do something too may be stop escalation of this aura. Make better hats, make better boots. Make better jackets make better pipes. Make better infrastructure, you know somebody shit has not been updated since the turn of the century. I don't away
you're from or what town you're in butter infrastructures are back Bernard item most of the time, so some of that shit that you guys are relying on might be from nineteen o four, but again I hope you taken care of yourself. I can't imagine why can I in some pretty nearly two or three. a snow storms, but tonight have power, do not have heat that just fuckin awful kicker. Those burners man is the gas working is natural gas working you gotta gas stove again This is gonna, be The era of guns and generators, you'd better get your guns. You better get your generators, you better a warehouse story or food canned care. Some stuff make some pickles, I don't know, it's not what I'm doing and I get some people been doing it for awhile get there. Jerky going no human jerky do not! make human jerky aright.
I don't care how cold it gets? Don't eat your family, god dammit aright, I'm soup ok SAM Neil is on the shouted. I M very excited about it because I didn't know what to expect, but we had a kind of a lovely conversation. You know him from Jurassic Park. The hunt for October, the piano and lots films he's maiden in New Zealand he's a native New Zealand person is also numbers, many vineyards and his two patty wine, he was the farm on one of his vineyards. When we talk to people, It was like in a bar, of his own building of his own creation. In one of his vineyard buildings. with a bunch of wine behind him. I said it was in video, so he could start drank and he's up It becomes part of an online favourite with his social media, videos of him singing songs and hanging farm animals and drinking, is wine, I might add SAM Neil break conversation. I
I'm having a my having a hard time, but I'm having a raw time, I'm having a raw time people. The assumption I made at the beginning of this should show was true that that, as this thing goes on, you will become more acquainted with who you really are, and I'm not so sad to get down to the baseline. I did just spend. couple hours on twitter revelling in the death of Russia member. You know that my armor comes up pretty quickly I think I got out while I was ahead, or at least even. But look there honest to? God truth? Is he having done talk radio not that I don't have him in perspective or its that I don't understand that, dare you they capable and pioneering broadcaster, no one paused better, then rush. And I can say that honestly,
if there is one thing that he brought to the table. It was wedding, something sit for a minute after He said something terrible. after we celebrated the death of somebody, or the bullying of the vulnerable or the pain and and sickness now those he judged. And disagreed with was as he reveled? their demise in their pain in their deaths. He was Let it sit there for a minute. as if to let you revel in the evil, fucking piece of shit that he was. Russia will embark. I'm talking about Russia. Limbaugh was an evil. malignant piece of garbage responsible for more deaths,
and more brain fucking. Than any broadcaster in history. Many of us Lost relatives to, to Russia's show to his way of thinking. To the ranch Sid garbage he put into people's brains, he was proud of it. He was proud, at laughing, at the pain of others and cut in pain and hatred, he loved it fuck him good riddance. So what I was saying was in terms of figure out who you are. I got cut it off topic there and now you're trying to stop myself in the midst of this ongoing anxiety and sorted inability to sort of function in the anxiety of waiting to get a vaccine of waiting to get some sort of normalcy, of ordinary
how things unfold and just dealing with the day to day to day to day the day to day, to day of the day, the same day I have to- fight my desire to do dumb little things. Man, I wanted to go, replaced a cartridge. Ah my turn tabling twitch out my turntable. That can wait. No, I mean stop and get it. I have my rug. One of my rugs is coming unravelled. I know, there's a rug repair place the coroner here, but that can wait like those we. Your things like, I literally, have to say to myself: do you don't need to do their duty need to run to the fucking supermarket for smoked. paprika, you don't even need it in a recipe just cuz. I lock in I get obsessed and I think got to go. Do it mask up, go do it, but I don't have to do that stuff. That's a devilish dread. Here. We struggle with me when I'm alone during the day is not to go to a store to a place or do a thing that is fucking completely unnecessary, ha gonna get a kitten in a few weeks problem,
in a column Mangus. I hear go SAM, Neil, the new film nuts. The great film beautiful small movie. This is, called rams its a to sheep farming brothers in Western Australia who were at war with each other over their prized breed of rams and half and come together, kinda, in the face of adversity. Maybe do they It's available now on all digital on demand platforms. And it's a beautiful movie. I highly recommend this movie rams degree Its story and it so tight, so simple characters are beautiful farmers, in New Zealand or Australia in Western Australia, this tension, this family tension heirloom hey you're beautiful! she blood if there's a lot of the goat? as the goals in this movie and the
the handling of go testicles. Now that doesn't get Jean, I don't know what will SAM was at his vineyard and New Zealand when we have this conversation in You'll notice said: because I'm not doing stand up. You know when I got an audience, keep trying to get some laughs. He was great true ia. Truly a joy to talk to SAM need our you, SAM, I'm fine. Thank you, my nice to meet you. I see you ve got me shelter behind too, that we set the the movie about our demand to know that yeah definitely had outcome on in it. It was yet in the maze of maize, our brothers, yeah. That was the one it was they set out to make her an excited fun documentary about the rolling stones, tour and then a turn into earth.
demonic nightmare, but I had a reassessment of all that the term that cost the stones into a much worse light than you would have it. That's true. I read a book there's a book that was ready. I journalist in San Francisco and yet turns out that the stones were just awful from gecko that there was no precautions taken that no one was hurt cared for anything and an dating care yeah of exit Riddick. During the current one, with chilling about. I was just how to control it out because it was no bathrooms. There was no doctors, there was no water. Do we ended and expect that many people in a country like a hundred thousand people have many came. It was just insanity. No one was there was chaos, and then there is bad drugs going around him was out of her mind the stage wasn't even the stage was like three feet off the ground. Sam three
He would know security but help it. It was crazy in the end. People wonder why I don't got a festivals, anymore, scary did you use to get off the list, time I went with actually an island baby ten years ago in Irish in Ireland I was kind of cool. It was good. It was out in the middle of nowhere and there was some anymore good and then I expected it's a nice waste and the day there was good words when they had tense with different things on sure, the area was had a choice of like three things at any one time who your bands workers, who do you like? Who do I look? yeah I'll. Do you go to bans ok my ideal festival, yeah they to revive him, but I need little au fait with low George, how nice yeah sure yeah probably had lining great
I'd like Randy Newman in one of the sides, tents, Randy's, grey, yeah. I don't want them on the main stage. I want them in a side tent, so this just a hundred of his son Randy. You know he feel better about that. He doesn't need to pressure. You know he's hard on himself I also saw alive and and to my complete surprise, they were about as good. thing live as you could. Possibly much was Radiohead, oh yeah, you wouldn't imagine them being a great live bent their fantastic great life band rigour. Why, when she imagined act as a sort of in Chad, hunting, somehow you know well, do not exactly rock n roll in autumn ain't that right of its fifth hand and them it's kind of miserable this rock, and you Take that to be a good day out, but my card, they were fantastic Tom Yorkers. What he asked really compelling they get into his own their great
I saw you sing Randy Newman song from my sail away, I think it was Ansel away the one on one Europe. What is that Instagram or twitter. What do you do? The little movies are about that. To do that. I'm gate in Ohio, dead, no higher, yeah, yeah yeah, that's a kind of a safe song I wanted to do sail away. I thought all now. Maybe Not everyone gets Randy Newman, not not ever. gets irony. Not everyone understands that these happen it's not him besides his? it's a character if even one of the best songs ever written? What am I that song guilty? is one of the greatest songs ever. Do you know that guys incredible. Oh, my God, don't give me I can't get through it without cry
and it's a great song to cover two yeah. It's a sweet song in and then like it. I like a last night, I had a dream I therefore I I had here- I interviewed him once for a couple. Hours was one of the high points, my life. What a great thing to do, assessing the other day to hilarious and and and grotesque I love allay oh yeah yeah. It's a great yeah he's such a so funny. Man and dark too. You know how doc. Is you can leave your hat home? I love
that song yeah, but it's dark. It's dark and creepy and strange what about? Let's burn down the cornfield got. The list is endless. Wait we needs, we need five hours was Randy yeah bad he's great. So are you and is that a bar in your Guiana, wine bar in your house? What's going on in that room? Did you think now. This is this: is You know. I have four vineyards Allison they kind of this is kind of the principal one, and then it's it's midsummer And you know that I answer and full pumping at full. Right at the moment, my cattle in my shaper over there to wait here for vineyards in each one of them as a house on it Thirdly, this isn't the house. This is if you, if you come to my
If you come to my vineyard, this is where I will. I will pull wine down your throat liberally. Why you now? I would like I don't I don't drink any more, but if you can get me citizenship, I might need it and I'll. Let you do that. It's gonna die on here. I don't know if it's a great turn of events is going to save us so How many people do you know many Americans who have run away down there? You know, dear friends, from Show Business SAM that have bought palatial chunks of property down there. I don't have any it's it's it's mostly. It's mostly I believe that chunks of property have been bought by people with something. hedge funds, I don't I don't know what fit hedge funds are exactly I think we all need one cause. There obviously they, obviously there reap great profits from wherever these things happen
yeah either a bundle of different stocks run by a few guys and in those guys, take other people's money gamble with it on their hedge funds, stocks and seventy. Make a lot of money. I think that's my limited and understanding of it. Well we're in. wrong business when it, but we need to gamble with other people's money. I guess I have no idea. I is sometimes I don't even know how I'm getting paid. I just assume the guy I call he. The guy the guy, who tells me I'm great they want me. He also tells me I got pay site. I just have to trust that guy yeah. I am that guy around here at any one time I have about ten people working for me here and there Yes, I'm the guy, that's the kind of guy. The different depends on and I have to so there is no money in at. I don't know turn that, because there'll working for me in a wine best is right there, There is no money and wine, so what
What is it about the wine people me what'd, you is this just a way of you servicing your alcoholism. I mean how works. It seems like a lot to do for you, you just by a few bottles a day. You know that A sane man would do with exactly the same man and in my case it's kind of historical. I have some. I have found I have found out that got founded. It goes back to eighteen, o five and growing wine, and my Father in Ireland by them that was in Sicily, of italian family. It wasn't, it doesn't take He wasn't actually, what's that noise I don't see that Europe may it I don't think it's done upstairs is at stake. an upstairs is having a good time if the ghost of your great grandfather yeah, maybe
now: he was that there was a man called Benjamin ignominy went to. And to Sicily and made a fortune from that. Marcella. Oh, I see so he was. He was not italian, it wasn't turning it was. It was Yorkshire, but I M on the Neil side: yeah, I'm fine, fourth generation, possibly fifth, it might spirits, but I'm I'm I'm the first one and the first name. to grow wine wait said the generation and wine and spirits, but you're the first one to actually make their own is how it is that we are really telling me tells us wooden merchants and were drowning at that. I don't want to. I don't want to be stereo. I think that is that the irish line, the needles That's the irish land. Yes, we're part again, Do you spend time in Ireland at all I have but- and I
I've worked in Ireland to three times and and I love going back- and I kind of feel weirdly at home and attended this summer about Ireland that the kind of makes me feel comfortable. Am I There was puzzled as to whether that's because my first seven years with their or if if it's a dna thing I'll tell you, I don't wanna birth, your bubble, but I'm I'm hungry. Percent Osh cannot see Jew and I have the exact same feeling in Ireland. So so maybe Maybe I don't mean on the genetic so much, let's go at the other thing, but mark my own sense entirely. French, too. yeah. I don't know why that is their there. It does the book French. It sounds french, but it is in its. It goes all the way back to her Bela Bruce? I think a pail of settlement programmes
I come out nervous the I come from a line of avert of tailors and US people who own surplus stores yeah I'd never pays to sort of go back Two thousand, I think, come Stephen Fries family hit you but you know that serious who do you think you are yeah, I know, but we have one here somewhere. Yeah finding your roots. Yet finding your rights and and whenever anyone says better resource, something at always aunt. You think and ends up. Some grotesque thing happen sooner, yeah. Maybe I was out it's all. That's the pale asylum people, those are the Jews right usually yeah here or programmes or some sure tat. They are not endeavour, you know it, you never It doesn't generally end well for the Jews, like yeah,
it seems like the Jews that ended up in America and maybe in England there only there because they were running away anywhere. There are drew surviving it's because they left in a hurry. Isolate the here. The ones you ve got out under the wire Ok, so you come fit generation spirits, but you the guy that made the investment you're the one They did it. Do you have like our you are. Why nerd is that what it is because, like I don't drink anymore, so I and I enjoyed wine, but it seems like it's one. Those things like there's no end to what you could have set about yes, yes thank him up and look on yeah. I love wine, but I'm not I'm not I'm! Not! I'm not crazy about him wild eyed about it, but I'd I'd look it's more of course deeply care about this I care about. What's in the bottle
is that what you're in there and I'm while the ambitious that this should the greatest wine in the world yeah, I'm I'm, I have no ambitions as an actor at all. Never no more a really but I started off very humbly modestly. In wine, beer and and my ambition gets more and more out of control every year, right and- and- and you know what mark, I think I'm getting close to it. I think I'm getting very close to making the greatest wine on the planet. So that's great, that's great there. you know. I all you need to do is believed that SAM I dared and no one can take and no one can tell Get away from you is tat. Please don't opposite me, some self delusion of full at the South Pacific, I've that I'm not just there you're good audience, and I don't talk to anybody
an album all alone here, SAM there. Yet this isolation thing started starting to get to me. Oh, my god, I completely understand that not only that when you get out of isolation which are finally did in December, the up and up when I got out of quarantine here so that one to go back into. Isolation, had become so institution that people walking a unit unguarded in the streets masked terrify hissing each other breathing everywhere. I completely freaked me out. I was in a state of absolute chaotic, come a terror. Yeah, I can't I don't. I talk to my friend in New York and he said his son is taking the train downtown and like a train, a train. What are you gonna? Let him back in the house So where are you? Where are you hold up Glenn Dale?
Glinda, always LOS Angeles, summoned LOS Angeles, but Ok man, it's alright, I'm a m! nor can it out I'm figure it out. I too, I try to talk to people. I was doing what you were doing on in The gram- I was you I'd, make videos every morning, but you would you do yours or like a minute two minutes, I'm on there for it. For an hour, walking dad yeah, due to a live audience of that eight hundred two thousand people in the morning just wandering around talking to my cats. I play records forum in there and then by the end of the day, gets anywhere from like ten thousand twenty five thousand views like something: that's our board. People are here. The watch me make com, for an hour. You know, some point during their day and you're doing, on camera, yeah data
yeah I do I do with my phone, but you're. The great thing about show business right now, at least here is that I have the same production values with my phone is the tonight show has so no no, every eye, was true a better set, my god, you got Mick Jagger on you said about exactly but wait till he had. No ambition is, as an actor ever know, why why how'd you get into it: every time I get a job, I'm completely astonished. Who are these fully someone or employment? They said attitude, they love so much it's Harrison forts turn them down. Here
everybody's ten words embryo number, seven on the list sense. Does he still act? I don't know he's making one could just see alive alive, follow up our policy now but wait But how did you get? Why do you get started in it? I didn't really mean to I didn't really, I never imagined that I would get into acting as a career yeah a lot and I need your loved acting and I started school in it. there was a sort of it- was therapeutic as much something I am I go that by saying I really really don't like drama as as a fairer. But it was therapeutic for me because I had a very bad stammered as a child, and- and I started very badly, and I hardly spoke for fourteen years until a sort of gradually started
get some confidence as an adolescent, and I realized onstage I could actually speak clearly and and and TAT gave me this council to actually talk to people doktor adults, for instance, yeah and then, and then when I left you know I got a sort of pretty Odin, a degree in English at the university, and I learned their thinking. I don't know what I'm gonna do. I would have liked to have gone to drama school there wasn't any drums got to go to. I would like to affirm guns, in adapting the wasn't really any film being made a new suit in those days, and what was going on there anything. What did you do? What people do in New Zealand? What footwear dad. he wasn't one spirits, ah, but still initially o use. He was actually there. He thought he had a liquor store
He was up there, they were merchants nail accompany widespread merchants. Ok, ok, yeah and he was here. He said to me you need get a job and I realized it didn't it was. There was no chance to act at acting as a creative. Wasn't any website I got a job working here in documentary film and I train is a film editor. I became a director and then I do that for six or seven years, while was doing that. I would say Moonlight and wanted to my friends little films, little short films, and I I call Roger Dunstan spotted me in one of those films and cost me as the lead again I'd I'd know. I thought this guy's crazy yeah, in in the first in the, first color feature film ever made in New Zealand and the first film that have been made for twenty years?
film for sleep. It sleeping dogs and that sort of that, and then I went back to making documentaries Someone saw me in that film and they asked me to come to Australia and act in a film called my boy. Career, opposite Judy David says: she's great, there's, a big movie a year will that went, com and the last when I got to strike at that for the first time. My life people said you're actually really quite good said, was no you're good you're good at it. I'll come on my profile, and then and then I started making a good living a snack turn that took me to England in an points beyond set. It up and I'm still surprised- that's actually fifty years, someone reminded me rather cruelly,
and at VW area today, since the first time my face, c Mon Celluloid here, as a nineteen them nineteen, seventy one or something like that, as long as it is while of long time. What we look. Let me just ask you, though, like so you did all the Euro six. Seven years in document there is: what does it mean when the eyes are some amazing business in documentaries and New Zealand and the late sixties? I mean what like I, was an employment. What were we, what were the document irresistible? yeah it was it was. It was the new New Zealand National Film in it, and it was. It was a government and most people for the government in those days and and we might films folk for government departments, alot of a lot for tourists and publicity, and occasionally we get a film waiting. We make a film thought for ourselves and
so my very first film was: for the Museum Post office. It was about telephone, courtesy yeah, how to add up to her at once. And not offend you people, and that was you acted and that from now on, I too, I wrote it in directive, fit out tat, bring another Diana yeah. I asked. I cast my friends in it in these roles that I'd written the nuisance, post office ran the ran the telephones in those days different days. are we going so? What are you tell me so at that time was? Did you know everybody on the island and we were out? How was your The people there like we're In those days? In those days there were two and a half million people and New Zealand, and seventy million sheep, Why were firstly outnumbered by the shape
and what did the I'm? I dont want to be ignorant, but what are the indigenous people called Mario Mauro, right right. Right and now was did you. and it was there a dynamic between the Mari end like your family or people in general. When you were growing up, I don't know what the situation is yeah, that's it, it's an interesting situation. I could. I grew up in the South Island and very very few. Will they were very few more people, in the south and in those days thinks of changed considerably black. Indigenous people pretty much everywhere this, disadvantage and a fair amount of poverty. Up in the north, but things are changing rapidly, and People were its. is very different from a strange. For instance, there was a treaty, the treaty of White Tommy, there were struck between the crown
the british and And the more people in eighteen, forty and and since- at the nineties. The white tiny. My beautiful has been redressing grievances. Returning land and and and compensation compensating country sense for lots of lands and and deprivation. One grandmother said why it's not perfect, I think, where a very different society, then when I grew up in people, much more respectful and aware of of of of man. petitions and and terror that's my language and am actually very proud of how and tat grow married People and Mary culture is too is is to use in society.
It is in Tiger why Tv Mari part Marie? Absolutely yeah. I guess I just watch a movie it still. On my mind. Can I watch that movie that you were in the hunt for the bewildered people, and that kid Marius well, yeah, yeah, absolutely what a great movie yeah I think it's kind of a certain kind of central to the story of New Zealand now to that phenomena in a strange way is it. Yeah, I think said it it has a sort of healing quality beyond this lot of this fifth does out of wounds, alot of a lot of them. This blood in the soil and New Zealand there. in eighteen, sixty eight, seventy! What's what were were known as the Mary was when I was growing up there now known as that. New Zealand wars or their land. Land wars are, and this a lot of bad blood, but that's a film like will. The people has
ass if to bring people together rather than separating yet beautiful. So I thought it had a profound effect on on the culture there that film in particular played well. There. I'm, not sure but profound. That has had a big effect. You yeah, you know it's a beautiful movie, any I mean, and I you know I just sort interesting though ass I watched The rams movie is well and I like this version of you, this kind of, like you know, beaten down, aging. Emotionally, stifle it yet commercially a red once someone once the term Gregory Thick woods. make nights on his scripts, but its pages. He would put these three letters at the top of the page in a someone asked him,
what is in Miami Mister Peck. He said no acting required I mean it seems like you now look. I know you workin animals, you got on their vineyards. Are you got the way? Is our farm? You all vineyards have animals. How does it work? Do you If they have animals, would you do with the animals like in wine or you butchering animals steward milking on? What are you doing? You make Bell No, I don't make any milk I love the innocent promise of that question. That then and everything we do hears organic food, Michael, organic wines. We use a lot of by dynamic principle sire and for any further for instance, animals hepsey integral to those procedures, said: ok I'll.
Finally, the council, big scary horns and they sort of shaggy and they produce too. to put it at present is again the best manure. Ok, possible, for an administration is absolute. Were all about soil, health, men, but soil healthy health. You need good cop, us good manure, because you restoring M nitrogen. To the is it and I'm getting really boring now MAC guidelines, because it's I'm getting into this in a nerdy techie thing: I'm gonna hit ok, but we're talking about Pope in that's always good. You know people enjoy poop talk like a long. Rushing has not yet is. Why is this not society which I think we're the idea, and I think, As you say, you have these very exotic kind of Nero Prehistoric
clicking animals that you just need his have around, so you can collect their shit. I mean they yet that's an end, but these ages you're really doing so. You should farming with the cows through made the soil better for the wire good shit, goodbye but that's how many cows you have just for this purpose so heard number. I think I've got twelve or fourteen. We just had a few new kobza, I haven't had come for a while, but I think it's I think, wits it's about fourteen, at last gonna, but about thirty shape. They also do the same thing. they're on we control to eliminate that instead of sprang the with file chemicals. from them. You know who we're way I don't know you like, like mouth my fancy of this month.
Monsanto. Obviously so, ok, so you you you she poop to kill bugs. wait control without backpacks on such a problem here, but waits we ought to come competition from weeds, so sheep. She Pope kills waits for the eighth waits. Organic ok got it so, How many sheep you got him you ve got to get out of the house more back either either morning the sacredness of farming? I know that I am familiar with this. The eating of the I learned a lot with the with the sheep movie that urine, but yet so Sammy Sheep is user over there. I think about forty of them and forty or fifty and you do, do you name them? Do you shear them? Do you make wolves? Do you have people come in and make wolf.
I do name some of them and those are the ones that I and I don't want to end up on on somebody else's played. My have one could Jeff go bloom, who have retired ram and his he's a good friend he's I can see. I'm actually at the moment is up he's at the top and a power pile up there. very nice round. The room behaviour isn't neurotic and speak in a strange kind of rhythm yeah that's a lotta humming on her work That's nice, so there's no! No one's gettin killed in less yet because, like going into movies, I've seen you in there is just a massacre of of animals and I got very unhappy denoted this terrible. Now, as then, look I have to say, look
If you want there, if you want the sordid facts, in any given year we might get twenty to twenty four twenty four. I think we got twenty four lamps this last season, Twelve or those will be boys And twelve or those will not and the boys will not make it to the vote. We bring in the new ram. You just need one ran for the flock here and the boys. We now have a happy life, but not mess really very long life. Ok, fine! Now I think it's tough! It's tough on the phone! why stuff? What oh yeah? Oh yeah cause you gotta wait what he do! Do you eat em? I do I am here to be ashamed to that. I would think that even people like you're doing it correctly, you get to know them, and then you tell me to look the other way you murdered them in a new chop up.
anytime, not everything's used you make soup with the bones that make you make soup with the buzz you get that bones of the dogs. How many dogs you got over there. I just have one darker sleeping outside and scratching: ok scratch, mostly sleeping having. So I guess like ok, here's a pressing question in the movie rams. Your new film, which I enjoyed a great deal, could think it are those prosthetic Testicles or those jet, those actual balls There is a real bulls mark. I have two: you have to teach your hat till your hat, yeah yeah, after till, she had the up your hands here too, Your average ram. There no animal, so pretty just on the planet. Let me tell you yeah a good. ram can cover eighty five emails, eighty use in a given day have eighty her now
even the worst sex attic from your town sure caught come anywhere close to the now now they ve tried by It doesn't matter back the day, you know some guys got close That's what I hear that there was a times I am, but that's why they need very, very big testicles, that I get it to her body weight there. The biggest poles planet yeah. Well that say whether ok, what's good to know I don't know what to do that information. I was gonna make a joke, but I couldn't come up with a name quick enough, just slowly process the leeway he met we. I love the movie. I like both of those who, like the older movies to so like with no seed in train, is inaccurate. What you just learning on the job or the directors that gave you some other were their co star. Is it you had that said, maybe you should think about you're doing it.
This way I mean, how did you pick it up? I think listening in listening and and a kind of working out for myself and and and in the old days wasted we used to have but the gold dailies or Russia's current, and we would a girl file into a screening room a day or two. You shot that day and watch watch those dailies I learned a lot from that is going on my god. What have, I think, I was doing there at all That's who owns worse just don't do that again right to learn a lot from I learned a lot from other actors just just watching and an answer observing Hu. I liked him who I didn't. like images like that's good HU? I could also a house of so many. I mean
like over. There was one the first guys you're like oh, my god, I gotta figure out. I was great. I think I think I was processing that very early on. I was a big fan actually of them. British movies. When I was growing up. I like people, by God now: yes Mason yeah- that sort of actors- oh yeah, James Madison Square. I just watch those a couple of the G ass, a lousy scripts? I just watch was the one with an Bancroft. Who is it, though? The pump pumpkin eater was that the pumpkin eater. Oh my god, I love that lets you, films, yeah. You know what I think it might be. The greatest film ever made- and I haven't seen for a long time I have dated, but the go between- oh I gotta watch her. Is that a lousy thumb yet Julie Christie as a fantastic, fantastic film, Edward Fox I just watch the accident and cause
I'm watching there on the criterion channel, they gotta these printer scripts, so watch. The accident which I think had dark in it and I much there yeah, the Pumpkinhead her, which had James Mason in it and arm, Who is the lead in that Au Pair Peter Finch, yeah Peter fence? the australian puzzling actor yeah, I'm our memory, I've seen network. Many times- and that was the last movie yeah- that was his last from it but ever some Lawrence Olivia. That term encouraged him to leave Australian, see seek his fortune elsewhere and the rest is history, yet about. Did Olivia. Did you like Olivia yeah, not so much on on film? You know: that's not not! Enlargement, film that that technically cared for. Why not What do you think? What was about the other guys? You could see their personality, I was kind of
smacked of the theatre a little bit worrisome. James Mason was made for cinema, so watchful, Piazza, watch and and and does seemingly so little, but so little can speak so much I know it is that I mean did you so you learn that. So that's what you learned from him cuz I get. You know it's my instinct. You know I acted like I come in always too hot to just add a control takes it but that's fine young gives me a lot of leeway. India is turning things down is easy actually, either way I like being directed you I love being directed and one bit of advice. I got very early. I've forgotten it was. doubt, do nothing That's only if you went down, I think
nothing isn't enough, and sometimes I see ACT is doing. Nothing will come of do something with it. Acting doing nothing. That's insufficient right right way. I think doing nothing and being engaged. different than doing nothing actually doing nothing, Sometimes I worry about my hands, give worry about your hands. like when we do. I hands, like you, know, cause like film Jeff Daniel said to me. He said you gotta learn how to use your face because most of film is face. And your mouth breather? So this tricky every time you got to me, but my mouth is going to be like loud If I look at myself on film? Likewise, my mouth fuck and open can't just tell me to call my mouth. whether mustache, helps yellow bed by can't be aware of everything, you got some that deep, I just never read through my nose I can't worry about that, while in acting on top everything else,
through my nose, but I tell it as I think the best martyr I ever heard was what is acting here and, and I think it's and this the some some sums are better than the other. Here is pretending to be someone else. Really really meaning it yeah right and that's all you need to know really AV got. I you don't get a drama school. It is just a membership, but you feel You ve gotten better over time. Of course, right I hope I have you always pretty good, though I may I remember like I don't know the really I care member, if I saw my brilliant career, but I remember there that the yeah Damien Movie, thou scary, I whispered. but didn't remember that really away, and so I thought I was when the great characters, the Anti Christ. You have a problem, with the I wasn't very happy with my performance, but
but I I thought term. What was the problem in your mind? Just wasn't? Baker this very day spent, I forgive myself heard. How many movies have you forgotten? Haven't you must for EU must have forgotten it. Oh yeah governess. sadly, that someone said it was. Seventy five movies, so yeah But then you can't remember all of them, but they do they. They, I thought Problem was playing Anti Christ and gift? Is this it speed, loneliest job and in the world being Anti Christ. Don't you think I know scarlet mean resident yeah? Well, it is going to do now he's there's no way a buffoon could be the Anti Christ. If you're gonna be the entrepreneurs, can we really clever? Aren't you
Otherwise you not even the I mean as president was it was a complete buffoon yeah a danger a buffoon, a very dangerous before never give. Never the cloud If, if you're really the enterprise dg IA around saying. Oh Come come Take you on a Friday night at this is nice is not another martini by the way, I'm the anti Christ we're just gonna, run, run and run, screaming at their data or they're gonna, guide. Sure yeah. Now, ok Ok, I'm on a scary. My heard that yet all the guys tell me that the Anti Christ and it doesnt turned me I can't get out of here- take another doing another angle of new angle, with
so you thought he was too human. That was your problem, so I felt sorry for him and there must be some lonely, but that's it gets delectable only get I've seen guys overplay Satan. You know, I mean patina just chewed up the scenery and devils advocating that I can allow a neck. The latter Satan know how to say hello were come on. I stood alone, this should allow the sooner it is, I remember him chewing scenery in the early days to remember now he's doing say no, it all happened after Scarface scarface was the turning point. And then everything was like what happened in that film? He just was talking yeah yeah. I know he did Tony Montana Bit You know that was sent to a woman to who You know, and then you know, though you know but you know any ease key, can still do it. Sam.
Did you see employed Jack Kevorkian great? He was great net. The eighth, I almost think he can sail Deacon still dial it way down. He comes in a little hot because you know Skywalker prove now, but you can If you want to take it, he does Bio picks now is very good at it. Have you ever? bio pick. Yes, I did. I played them. I protest are with them. Very famous. Kind of Troy, ask mining magnet illustrated what TAT movie called. His name was Lang Hancock and he made a fortune from just He flew over these hills and said why these hills, Red Irene, as they would you know. Ninety percent I'm and he became one of the wealthiest men on the planet, where from just that, little insight.
and so he district mind all of New Zealand, Australia, astray astray. the other. She, like some people, made a lot of money in Australia, the cattle money there Kidman but I found out it's not Nicole, that no certainly here at night, I interviewed a recently and, as I said, come on tell us about you know: you're, not half Australia, which is now the sun me like service, did question she might have shown have really been that commitment, but she's always said now, I went I don't know it doesn't seem like it unless your dad was like the black sheep of the family. Now I get right you. which were third. That was a big movie right there. What which, when we was at dead, calm right, did dead calm here, He was good. Always right she's fantastic, I'm not sure if that would be a pro these days. I think I was forty one and she was twenty. Two something like that-
Gary? There are in real life, moreover, dating we would just them. We would just in the move he ticket with that and I get it, but I mean that was the m you're implying that at the relationship on screen was an appropriate correct. I'm not saying you were dating No! It's just done everything. This letter sensitivities about some black eyed drive down material on it. As a comic I've talked about dating younger women. I unites like you. someone I did a joke years ago on Letterman and I got an email cousin, outside in their like? Maybe you should give figure out how to take that down. Like you, you just want me to erase my history this in its it's, it's a good Joe credited. It starts scrambling to it was on television man girl that's not gonna happen body, but what but what happened with James Bond? I mean that you know that could have been a game: changer I don't know I did my bringing up a touchy stuff. Is it
almost always get asked about this. I went to it. I was sent along reluctantly by mine by my agent, early eighties, headache that big darling caustic undue James Bond and no view should be the future as it I don't want of Egypt's barn, darling, I'm telling you to get. So when I had this excruciating yeah audition, and there's no way. I want to do it. and be there's no way they can offer to me and they didn't was reliefs. I didn't have to say that, but I tell you why I would have drifted about it. Does today, It's it's like being branded Yamaha yeah yeah, and I then I would go to if If I'd done that, I would Cummings spoken to you. I'd get ransom for coffee,
my local village and then there would be paid I don't know they would get. Oh my god look: its James Bond over there. That's the one I always does the Hudson one. I always hated her bad body. Is it like this the crap bound over there in the corner. How sad I knew paid that that would be with you. For the rest, we live, Sir dodged, the bullet there. When I do, I have not watch James Bond movie in forty years. I think as you have gone movie, I saw was Roger, more James Bond Movie, install the jib Timothy Dobbin ones. I don't care about it anymore. so which one we would you have been the one the dolphin got dealt in. Talk doesn't got that gig and another guy to it. I've met him once I think in a car park, as you do I'd rather either. I don't think I've seen one Dalton bond and then wait was there another bond to that. I, before didn't did Remy.
in steel, guy's name. He was in Hawaii he's Australia. There was. There was George Lace and bake in a straight in Egypt, one yeah what about guy was in Hawaii, what's his name I can't remember the thick guy Pierce Brosnan Pierce Brosnan piss yeah and pieces with this is very good and he was wanted to be transparent, was very good at it, we see from the Australian, his irish irish. I saw him in that movie. I watched a Bob Hoskins movie, the long good Friday. Bob Hoskins plays a british mobster in Paris, but in place. One of the air. Area thugs, watching old movies work is. What else are we supposed to do? I don't have a vineyard or sheep this guy view? I'm in my house. I smoke fish. I've gotta as as smoker and I make an fish What I do
I wanted the neighbors say about that. Mr it's! Not a big operation, I'm Talkin one piece of fish: it sound like I've gotta I'd outside. If not, it is not good night. Commercial. Now, I'm back sticking out the block. Now I'm not a problem in the neighborhood felt like math lab fish smoker Where do you live? I live in the smoke fish region. I know I've been Ed's horrific how you were near their guide, yet the Jew who smokes of visualizing Might Morocco S. Attempts like fish Geier said nightmare so, what so then, like looking back at the whole operation of your life, I mean which movies. Are you like that that I now that I now that one identity, You have a really nice combined come. My none on earth is always something is always there's always a floor, but in a nothing's perfect And if you f
if you may laugh, when did you get close, I didn't like his father people to judge on you. Experience? Now, look I'm mostly more five by but she myself said I I don't enjoy it, I don't enjoy it. I don't know. I was really but about if other people enjoy them. I'm happy and and the thing about ram system. That is it. I've had such warm response to certain people, people, getting hold of me answered yes, sort of film makes you feel better about things here and and it's a bit of a gifted in these rather big times and I have been, I have to tell you. I've been looking at a lot of recent movies cause I'm an academy in and I need to be admitted, hey? What's going on at this, been some very good films, but.
almost universally there there a bit depressing. Yeah why? Why under way which wanted to watch I realise that the suitable girl- you know what is it the suitable, That was the last one. Promising young well is every two hopes up promising young woman. You watch it that it titles, yet there That was, I mean it's a bleak film, but it's a very good films. Did you watch it yeah? You know which ones are real killers at? Did you watch out pieces of a woman will etc did you. I shall no man's land, Georgia with them Mc Dormann how's. That is good. I mean cheese is just amazing, isn't chaser so remarkable and It's a very interesting firm in its. seemingly completely unstructured the eye. I just watch them
asylum so much reduced. What's the news the world was Tom, Hanks echo is an object lesson how to act on square baby He has such sort of warmth and humanity which just. As no one like him tat is it's really remarkable. Yeah, he is my, I think, like I, the thing about rams. Rapid run that movie. I didn't know what to expect from a movie. I didn't know where was gonna go, It's always sort of heartbreaking, these deep family feuds- and it's really interesting Demille. You come from your generations of people involved with spirits in this is a generational kind of you know: why go Movie Yonah Sheep movie here but it is all very so waited, but it's so simple and everybody so lovely and the woman who placed of that. What's her name, render it she's great, and I haven't seen her in a while. You know I gotta, and what about the guy? You place your brother, whose Zack I Michael Kay,
he's been a friend of mine since nineteen, seventy nine, that's the last time we were really. It was just so I just didn't know how it is going to resolve itself in it, so it so work. Ever emotionally rewarding now good. I'm glad you say, that's good yeah, we say it was it was an end as those feared, you know where I am now on my vineyard. If you you drive a mile down the right, there's a big old homestead and it was built in the Eightys and Ninetys, I think it's a huge huge house and it was inherited one point by two brothers fear and these brothers, grew to hate each other to the extent that they but not live under the same roof, but neither some would leave What they decided to do is to break it up.
Right through the centre. The housed one lived on one and two percent get aigrettes crazy. That takes it at a certain type of will. We ask you, sent me to leave. You add that even the first, when did you did you? Is this what you always wanted to do? I mean: did you you get out of your business to be like. Did you buy? I bought the lan. Does a street vineyards I planted they planted does grapes within. it's already the last vineyard that that was established that I bought so its thirty years now and damn it I leave the sort of double life Jekyll and hide and the high does the guy that some that's going grapes, and his crazily ambitious the Jackal is the guy that goes to work on the movies and and and
while it might seem like a double life. It's all. So I a sort of a balanced life sets somewhere between I've got one foot in the US and the other one in the soil. I suppose so it's not one or the other, and you still like doing movies. Oh, I love it. How can I and and and Wouldn't I wouldn't go to work if I didn't of it, and I wouldn't be growing anything here. If I didn't love it, so it is a balance here. It's not like. I gotta. I got a feed this bad idea that, but I guess you know extricate myself for I think there were times when my ex wife would have said that there are you doing What do you think you're crazy man? Well, I tell you. Man was really a pleasure talking to you made my night. Thank you. Mark flooded, see you love! You talk to you yeah we'll! Do it again sometime, but I think you got you got other stuff to do
Thank you so much slowly, slowly, the Sea act by take care by now There was one that was really enjoy talking a sham. The film is called rams. It's definitely a sweet movie to watch highly recommended right, dig some hard rock rift edge.
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