Ever since Marc and Kimmy Gatewood said goodbye to each other and their fellow castmates on the set of GLOW, the world has been in a constant state of flux. Marc and Kimmy spend some time catching up and dive into the details of Kimmy's experience directing her first feature film, Good On Paper. They also talk about Kimmy's improv history, her studies of Samuel Beckett, her partnership with Rebekka Johnson, and their early days of podcasting as The Apple Sisters.
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What are you doing? Ok, I'm all sweaty. I don't know man, Charlie Watts is dead, but it's weird. I
love Charlie. I love the rolling stones. I
since the rolling stones problem.
We every week,
at least once a week on purpose, not in passing.
Not as part of a playlist. I
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Listen to that get gets requires out, because that is where I really first understood.
the power of Charlie oddly, it's on that live record and oddly
on a reissue of that live record. There was a slight remakes done. How do you know the stones
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a few years back.
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during midnight ram, were you heard about the Boughs Dan Blank and if you turn it up right there
here. Are some guy go God damn in another guy and a woman go.
do it through all the brakes
them, but I think I think we would really struck me on the re mixed was
is how fuckin tight that rhythm sexual is just how fuckin tight
bill and Charlie were
and realizing that without that, everything
he's a fucking disaster like Keith
as great as he is famously,
one of the great rhythm guitar players
I start thinking about that me. I work man, I love Keith, I love Keith! Allow them all
I I'm his bill. I wasn't gonna go see the stones a few years ago, Dino because I just didn't feel right seen him without bill, but Dean talk me into any. Was great Darrell's great
but the thing about the rhythm section and hearing Keith
Talk about Charlie you and their sort of unspoken kind of
Understanding, each other perform actively is add Keith without
Charlie M bill would just be chaos.
You know it would sound disorganized kind of like a fragmented and stilted that Keith
Richards, his entire sense of river.
That evolved over time is.
We because of Charlie Watson, finding those holes and finding that placed a float on Charlie's jam
and Charlie Fuckin had to follow Keith.
And you don't even notice that and that's gotta be a chore different points in time. So
without Charlie, you got nothin you get
stones, I'm coming.
obviously, if they decide to tour and Steve Jordan goes out with him. I mean great drummer by meet throughout the whole thing that there's no
really Charlie, is one of the most solid beats keepers of tat.
I'm there is any, can swing and stay on top of it at the same time, it's crazy how good he was, but
If you really want to listen to the subtlety,
and the genius of that rhythm section of Charlie and Bill specifically
give a listen to that
get your yes out and listen clothes because they're holding it together.
Charlie's holding the whole fuckin thing together. How do you think, Ronnie and and
It can do all that messy fuckin swap the day do without Charlie kind of like just be in bed.
rock you know, I mean Charley was great.
And just a real suave mother, Fucker too great drum,
great rolling stone, one out of five gone great great charmer Gaga miss him. I mean I still got him,
I still got all those fuckin records. I got all those records, Charlie
you never leaves and he received a good life
He lived a long life.
specially for a rock dude yeah resting
peace, Charlie Watts, Godspeed, swaying. It.
I forgot to tell you on the show, because I've
to honour Charlie. Today, I'm gonna talk to Gimme Gateway.
she is one of my co stars or was one of my co stars on Glow Sheep
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just now on Netflix
and I was good to see her to reminisced the reminisced we reminisced now
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in my finger, primarily because here's the deal you know
become somewhat resilient to trolling, but you know I
I'm not that resilient to suggestion
about certain things.
are actually worse
for me than trolling like I was on my instagram on Instagram alive, and I've got this thing. I'm under my finger nail on my index finger
and someone on the Instagram wife said you should get that check for melanoma so that
was actually some of the finest trolling
that I've ever been victim too,
Does this not finding my weakness around insecurity or jealousy or any of that shit? It's not! It's not really those kind
plain triggers of people with entertain
that you can get all worked up. It was something more refined and that now don't think it was the intention of the person that set it to troll me. But it's just I was
I looked at my finger to MIKE what is that? I'm a guy
look. I got. Bang my finger, but I wasn't sure if I beg my finger exotic, remember bang in my finger, so I started to look at it in and I of course, Google just a touch just a tad fingernail melanoma
melanoma under nail, didn't go
It looked like what I got but enough for me to starve festering none for me to start thinking
about melanoma and about how long would it take, did it spread
What is going on? How do you get it out of their that was,
my biggest sing, so I started
festering about how if they have to get
even if it wasn't melanoma. What are you gonna? Do you gotta get something out from under a finger so because
My ability spiral specially with hypochondriacal panic, utilised
you think I'd. Well, I mean if it has
spread, which are probably has from pry got cancer, which means like I gotta start that fight an hour.
It's starting to enjoy my life, so
It's probably gonna happen, and do I really want to die that way, so I might want to start
can you know sort of kind of
frankly and honestly about any my own life, because I really don't want to just rot away of cancer by myself.
I gotta get my affairs in order in what it ok, let's say it has spread. So then do
just lose the finger. Do I lose the Tipp of the finger? Am I going to be incapacitated right when I started enjoying playing guitar and playing out and
doing this stuff is now when I have to adjust to play.
With partial finger? Would just part of my index finger on my friend hand. Do I have to
make that adjustment. Would I make that adjustment? I'm not a professional musician? Why would I make the
commitment of trying to play with three and a half fingers now
he's gonna give a shit about that miracle, I'm pretty limited player and I'll. Just
the same limited player only with
a finger on my index finger and maybe I'll get away with it. I don't know and what
is Akron look good cosmetically. Are they going to be able, and I can have some weird kind of tiny night nail sticking out of the top my going to
be ashamed of my hand. Oh my god,
so when am I going to the doctor, so I started to spin out and then you know on the plane. I started pulling my cuticle back on the bottom, so I could see how deep down the amount Linoma went and just you know how much damage you're going to have to do to the finger. If they have to sort of cut off at
upper scooped out and then
I kind of like I fucked up my cuticle looking at that
and I just went into form panic and I was like why don't even know the doctrine
going to really on Wednesday, are they gonna give a shit about me? Yet
they are part of my plan. I've been there before, but I'm starting to think of some doctor
They just gonna blow through shit and they just
kind of like you're. Not you know,
they care to a certain degree. By
I guess some of the lessons I learn when then passed away at these doctors can be pretty passive. They have nothing invested in you if you don't have a relationship with them. You're just you know something that happens you're just part of their day. Something that happen.
They do their job.
If you die, they don't know you.
If you don't have a relationship with them. So nice
Freakin about about the doktor. I gotta see.
And tell indeed this needs. Like I got a guy I gotta dermatologists. I went to Dean's guy who's, gonna win noses shit
and are you up to my finger? He said I am not melanoma, I'm ninety nine point, nine percent sure
saw melanoma, looks like you Bangor some, let's get the microscope out, so we got it under the microscope. He's I guess I mean
I have been there might now few weeks. He would tell me
that's been there for a year. Maybe I'd be concerned. That was a melanoma that size it would have had
You have been there about a year and it looks like you banged it. You bruised it though
Isaac, cuticle and find might cause. I was pulling it down with my other fingers, so I could see how,
deep. The melanoma was he's like out. While I have to give you a prescription for us,
cream for that, so it doesn't get infected. So
in my panic I might avenged myself. So what's new, what's new poking prodding,
looking and prodding, but
aside from other realizations about mortality. I realise that whatever the case is, and thanks to my friend dean, my friend SAM, my friend kid, for
talking me through somewhat of a spiral that you know that I'm gonna get somethin
if I don't die quickly,
I'm trying to do something
Fifty seven years old and I got a sort
grow up around that
certainly have a handle on the idea of mortality.
I certainly seen death of close now, but something's gonna happen.
And you know how you handle that is going to speak to who you are your sense of character,
And one of the things I realise when I was panicking,
in dragging other people into my panic,
Non melanoma under my nail and what that was implying to me in my head.
I would triggered my fear was that I know
people with real sickness.
Of people living with real sickness and death.
You live with real sickness and they
do what they have to do to manage a sickness and that's part of life and for me to say
out as if anyone's going to make me feel better.
I mean when the ship really comes down. It's gonna come down. This wasn't
that time and not panicking is probably
the better way to do it. I thought I'd
so it had handle on that. I got
I've been more of hypochondriac in my life, but I just usually I
like while wait a few days and see what happens
That's usually what I do, but the nature
these type of bruises under the nail they take months to go away so that that was the
approach wasn't gonna works like I'm, giving myself a pass on that
but just realized when you're freaking out about probably nothing that
should be handling as a grown up, it's important to get things checked out and to realize you know that you can and should do that.
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but he was a kind of big and then it like all that fake me. So I was just like a farting owed. Its effectiveness of gorgeous divert relations that make or break is defining how we in Europe
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a bar and that pretty much broke our relationship because it was just like open into four in the morning and language I had yeah. I had that. I had that crazy person,
fantasy where I withdraw holes in the basement of your warrior. My poor watered hours at that yeah,
there. I thought well, that's better than likewise on the fourth we're bug drank grow out of bed in the morning and you guys open yet not just of stairs gave knock on the ceiling to be ready to serve
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but my dad, I mean yeah care when he was like seventeen are.
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I have my mother, no I've half brother and then I have to other siblings but mom. So the half brother was like whoops
yeah I didn't find out about until I was like thirteen and then he was in our life about four years ago. I didn't hear from him after that. Still straight yeah I saw I looked from Facebook. I found him once in Ireland
reach out. I I think I was too afraid to reach out. When I went out we're rival was my story. There was like some. What well what has happened? We think it is. They were married. I think I am here and then she decided that keep the baby. I don't.
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the third idea, and then I went than I without any kind of yeah, and then I was often college.
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fairly little effort. The information is out there now you know I get, and people find out things when they do genetic testing. A lot of people are finding out. They have half brothers
you gotta be like mom. What is that
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I am. I dont know too much about it.
my dad wasn't really into a minnow. Its rays was raised catholic area because that, like what had happened like my, my parents were, like
vanished from being married, Edward Hope of it as why she blew legit yet issuing catholic and also you is it hard to become catholic.
latin involved rituals, robes
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never got unlike the main stage shows or anything would audition, and then I found again I would go to do. Improv shows the way
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when we hear any noise and to worry about anything, that's perfect
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read of quiet, yak and right now, there's nothing do Arthur. You do
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importantly, I took this begging class and I was I thought it was so stupid and I hated it and pointless, and I was like this is garbage existence exactly what Beckett's trying to get across. You got the message I would like it's not like you try and then, like a. I just got put into contact and that's like I feel like when I understood suddenly like reactions and art and what everyone to Jerry Plan tat you and I and
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your people, then there's no contacts and seemingly no need for it kind of floatin. This
time free zone and we
just react to everything all the time. Yes, yes,
in in real time, rather than looking back again doing what you have to contact your eyes to understand the importance of anything else. Everything gets dismissed in just three
under the pile re. Exactly like.
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I live in the bright. No, oh look like in the context of why their protest writing in his new Vienna sure said, Sir it's, but, but I think that that
I opened my eyes and am glad that I took that clashes at your euro. We we gave you that,
intellectual peace where you're like gonna, get the shaded stupid. Then you like, but this is what was happening were inferior.
and in the world and where he was at the time and yet totally it with a briggs, yes total ever. I would like a breakdown of like what is the meaning, a theater and like you,
an end. I became absolutely obsessed with their there's. This one called that time that I stage just like completely it's in there all somewhat insane.
and I play them
an end game. I played the of the old woman. Those like Hamon, I forget them, I'm gonna get
hosted by my theatre friend over here, we had a common definition there I was a gap. What were they was? Aren't she suddenly? She saw your without using the out of nowhere. I pulled back, it is actually the thing did he did it start to frame
I'm ready for you, I mean like you, must have some influence on something. I terms if I fear
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media earned and not like I ll
of mainstream comedy now. Get me wrong. It's my favorite. I saw him. I love it. I love I'm just concentrating on my mother watch some things you, the net, like she's, never think low she's, like a Cyrus, I'm gonna
key sheet. Listen. My biggest accomplishment was a Peyton Manning commercially when they do that because they were
Is everything changed so much so that they don't know how to to sort of like conceptualize? Your aim target?
because it's like is IRAN and Namby see now
ABC now, CBS now gangway, then what is it?
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get that what it is that the reconstruction love network dynamic and not enough at nothing
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You know mostly don just comedy in high school nationally, so much that a high sure you realize a high school teacher can really hand right what are appropriate and work the eye, then whether kid can hand yeah. So it was good to just really kind of challenge and-
south. But during that whole process it was like. I was asking marching: Banipal trombone, I was at a scar band and I mean it was primetime marching in yeah. Do you in high school to yeah, really yeah?
and they are not like other than nerd and Theatre Nerd Yeah- it's. I thought you get him
again for your very high rate of nerd, how very expressive nerdy here, you're putting yourself
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doing. People like the FARC check with trombone do
pursuing their play. Man the play
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with the second part of the play, the ice cream the whole bit dried of cell flower me. She said
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so but you're doing this sketch stuff. So you are not adequate peoples and then you just go to New York. I, after after college, mentioning our different restricting York moved in with a friend from college, worked at Columbia University for a year as an assistant.
Professor of where job more kind of professor of imperative literature ruin YAP, buddies. It teacher Colombia yeah. I got that job too. There was a temp job and this woman guy tree.
check of artists back whose a very impressive professor she went through like fifty assistance for your six month like notion, nobody likes workfare.
and I was like doing extra work on us announced you're, sorry, Batavia ad and, like I just
point b, I wonder audition and I wanted to be a theater, and then I got this tempt Savage with yellow.
Get me for whatever reason announced that. Why are you being so mean to me into it? You know I came I like you.
Don't get back to me. It keep me
in you talk straight to me, I would like to offer you a full time job. Oh, my god of the approaching bear, did get that size that, yes guess it was like the it out. Thirty five thousand dollars a year whatever and lake, did you keep your honor you?
she kept telling me, but I would just talk back to artists, Quebec and leg, really, if there's a movie, ok,
european jargon reads a purpose.
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using job, because I would I just like didn't.
Care what you fuck? As I know it in turn of invested, he has only in future to yeah, but that's she loved. By did you learn anything
and could you gotta classes or anything now lasting person? I read, I read there at some
she really carbonic gets. I read a bunch carbonic our lawyers and finally, my bluebeard and I m sure I was helping coordinate this guide
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definitely loved all the philosophical like
thought. I don't I'm really my day. It's it's so itself. It is just a guy. Goes back, like you know,
back at opening your mind is that, unlike this is so fuckin stupid, like you know, they have put in Academia John World Yandah threats of lives, yeah, it's the only place
to keep it alive, really any of that stuff. If it was
academia, nor give a fuck about Beckett anywhere, totally
sort of sand now make up everyone's while they can so they can be
it's too celebrities to do a of waiting
yeah, I guess so when he saved us again, but maybe I'm being cynical, you know it's. So how did you get?
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you're, not gonna, believe is a cousin, but when a man like that, but when the ninety- because my cousins ants, whose screenwriter out here he's, is genius,
as India, Brian and he his answer, not my aunt by his moms sister.
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extra. What are you just on the list? Your idea they were like. Can you my my.
my cousin, we are sure that I got unless and then
I thought I did it the amount of times you could do before you had to join union and then at the time it was after us, with a thousand bucks to join. I couldn't afford it, so I did it until that moment, but like it was, it was just
while it was my dream was my whole dream was being alive yeah. I guess it before you did comedy or anything. I know this was like. The begin is like the drag out like my right when I landed. I was doing this that I could believe that, where, in the studio on the said doing the thing she added table
yeah like a fitting yeah like in their though like a screening room type, places that they would just keep us. Unlike who is the cast them?
It was like
ratio sands crisper. Now what about you
we'll Feral was gone, I think he might have. I think he, unlike sure Terry, my sham parliament, S laugh and went about. Foulon was found yeah,
but I mean really get to meet to many people
I am really get to our German and you see be like Eurasia Sands would hang out, and so we I wouldn't be Rebecca yeah yeah, sir,
when you got here, is you got into classes over their yeah, yeah slice,
and that was that when it was in the old Porno theatre yet onto a second street here, yeah, yes, so I started lake. I think the theatre started in ninety six or nine
eight, maybe ninety they weren't solo arts and there in two thousand, when I
their joint second street amount whilst who lived upstairs
Then you live up to their line of her right, all right, all right god. I won't get a place. I live bait on twenty third street near home in their youth. Eighty one of the girls they're admiral I've been yeah yeah yeah, those who was happening bar four minute right, yeah right right, it twenty third in that area by the Flatiron building kind. Yet
I can get a job at the sister places are those that the diner and union square? You remember that place?
the hot models for area was called. I forget place yeah
and those all models that work there and I applied to work their efforts,
and they let it really look rubber down the right. You should go. I've got a third, you can all even imagine, hoping marching Man and theatre nerd someday. I rejection. I wasn't stoker trombone Faye. I learned how to shock oysters. There live bait, I tell you, got the job. Had we been ok, you're doing you do in the US
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was Andy: Secundem Sean Conroy, Billy Merit Lakes, Amy,
was still doing like one off classes and even Roberts was so doing like an occasional classier there. No, that was used
probably teaching too I dunno browser, I never to comfort. I
was so afraid of that better. I I still I can never I'll never get over. My fear of him. The ice is intense,
you know, there's something I can see how it be frightening.
twenty two year, all of your, like God, in order fuck up in front of you and like you, I would do those late night shows that I came again on stage. You know when I really like it really besser yeah, there's like me, shall we would just kind of like you know here for everybody on, say chicken off stage and like it was, it was
There was a threat, but it was so it was so I don't know that whole process. You just saying I have we
May, I go do show stand of shows it used to be, and I have this fundamental resentment against
These well adjusted people that can work as a group and the audiences by Galileo
No, no matter how many people try to hang all comedy on me. For me being part of that I presented it. I wasn't Luna yelling because I couldn't get work elsewhere, whom I was there
Why do you use that word? I mean indifference on the part of the story.
that was in the now you I know you were there. You tie bury your slogan. Alan knows guy, and I would do like I, like my. I finally did like a thirty four thirty or was sixty and sixty one of those I was like when I did that I was.
Like I've made it up
as a stand up illegalities doing
bit like I don't know. If I was a stand up, I was you I got a minute, then
Ryan member. This, yet, as are fine
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make your trying stand up yeah. I did
for a minute, and it's because I was trying to figure out where I belonged in that merely we're all rosy dont. There's. No, I mean the is coming.
Hollywood. You like, I will be an actor, and, unlike this is really
I think you're right, you play an out of the eight, but not as do the no side.
tried. I, like
I add my friend, a college friend worked for bury cat so like he would put me on a couple of gags. Unlike
I went. I went out with thumb. That's that's a messy whole over office to work. Indy
it I went. I open public Bobby Kelly ones and our madrigal, like I would add this- was not my crowd. You put the picture but well like guitar, but you did it Bobby
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so funny. We we had a great time.
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Abby College a monster, but it is my very sweetly now they
a red they were really nice three and by its just like they ve. They could tell like that. I was a funny person, but I just like
with not translating to rush for my first stand up here, so I just like any do this anymore, but improbably like
connected with me and sketch was really layer collect
with me. We may you Jimmy Rebecca,
met her in two thousand and six so soon
you were just bouncing around for years in New York,
I got improv I'd work to the pets are either yeah
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before her solitary myself, and it was an amazing class of people like including of your eyes, Hamburg, within a slight ass leaflet.
Now with them. He had an
It was just after your show, so we it was kind of like a template for alike,
a solo show could be developed. A thriving and diverse,
my movement, so Lake, so I would work or people stories the rails.
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therefore I ween Kelly? Ah, ah I Nicky farce
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the way to present oneself at the time. Indeed,
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I don't know I you know, I would back on what I've done it,
I've, done it and I dont know
I mean it, I'm still a comic yet, but you know the idea of these show. The solo show gave you a little more.
latitude to you.
When, when you're a comic in Europe,
heart and soul. There's some
What are you gonna die? You can't be funny Ottawa either. Here we are again Mr Drama guy. Now I gotta get right of you cry will billions,
Tom Hanks moments like you know there is a like. You know, there's something I can show you where you can manage scandal the Vienna
I better, but I did M Andrew
John Syndrome was like I looked back on it and it's it's such a marketable format, which
and these are kind of did a one woman trial because he had direct and so many it was hilarious array of his own warlords of that's who were yet was very farmers and used to do a bit about a guy doing one mentioned. You know who, yes, everything again you after I saw my come again. I can do many movement, weird intentional stays relevance of a guy who's not used to being on the stage in any way to address
they make decisions
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Did you directing
yeah I mean you know I directed in college. I did vote
alright, the right! I am the Beckett indeed Vegas
I did the female version of the odd couple in college ginger. I love that true here. What really motivated me was that the Mai professor at the time, said why why would they do with women like the powers that funny- and I was like
If we could make a fire was lit, really really pissed me off and where would teachers can teach you involuntarily? Yes, indeed, there
so I had kind of been. I mean how
got to where I am today is kind of like it? It I've been doing it for a long time, but didn't necessarily know that it was a thing that you could do cause. Every one told me it was too hard to break it. To direct a film director felt drive
baby. Anything, but it really like our his heart sure, but I mean by it seems:
like you, I think you and Rebecca were sort of
head of the curve in the podcasting
Oh yeah we had. We did our Apple sisters podcast now. Yes,
because that's all it seems to me that that, in terms of land,
the comedy world and in it and in an earnest way. It was with that right. Let's see I mean so when we created the apple sisters in two thousand and six
He then seven and we went to the Montreal just last comedy festival, and that was a kind of our big break and those in two thousand and eight- and this was
it just deteriorate three of our three of your internet IRA style to act in a way yeah where ninety forties Comedy radio show. So like I love the marked brothers came up
but back here and we love to sing and dance. Sarah's comes from Broadway family, her grandmothers, Ruby killer from forty second
ST allow here and say I reckon I will only female teachers. People have tying us like that that the patent now you guys do Chauvelin fuck you just gotta women unwilling actually grow funny. I didn't like pin
calendar, a comedy, pinup calendar and Rebecca. I was Workin Orkut.
Reverend ass. They came up with this bit and we.
did a new show every month. So we would write three brand new songs, choreographed them right comedy bets like your classic pine faithfully.
So is almost like a period peace for
Eddie show yeah wit, but it was satirical. So we are very much talk about
lot of like the war going on casino. Bush was president at the time, and I as like ours,
yeah yeah. I know there is a war going on inside a wooden running for president. You, nobody so great
but so there's three of us was candy core and see the apple I play Cora
all the damn one. I just love seamen, examiners and candy. Is the she's got a husband him sheriff? Was a man running an overseas, are closer lesbian character and then see the apple whose, like the Jesus, loving in denial, conservative of our group? We have it. We have-
but we ve had a lot of fun over the years late, just poking fun it politics through the nineteen forty lens
so when you did Montreal gaming, what what? What did that yield? I mean, what were you offered
show. Where did you take meetings as a group in yeah
no, you didn't. We got ages manders from now the waves a year we signed with, like you'd, see aimed principally at a young after that, because we're like the only unrepresented group, were going female from the sketch comedy like block. I still
with principality. Now not anymore by George, you, dear mother, thinks trademark gonna start somewhere. The exact will take up. It's a frank is, I repeat, a british principle when they were all starting out here and I didn't realize at you, I just the nature. The thing everybody starts out, whatever their doing in show business, and they just eventually evolve in some make it somehow I was such a dictator.
And those guys, just like you know who the fuck are, these people with these suits. You know a gag rule. I just I remember there was a point we're Peter. Like you know,
made the shift from your being a shoot guy manager to the leather jack, a guy like no other JAG guy. Now then they went on there
big career like you know, when I knew him this was this guy. With such a day, I gotta be careful that I think it there.
my year. Do it our eight people of YO? Exactly where you are,
but you he remembers me as a dick. They there's some people that have those memories, fingerprints upon it
I don't think there's a lot of power to hurt me now. Baker move
what do you say about my jacket up up up up up up
never gave up here. Never forgive! You are working. I weren't flannel for the rest of my life in support of projects for that so that you got the aging you got going yeah and I that's a year I tested presented in. I live because everything,
my sallow shall call me engagement, and so I was doing like I was doing a couple of file weird and bright, like Canute Character,
there impression, impressive and like by my favorite impression, was Judy. Garland was afraid of bears a really stupid
they do. It was only by category I was home,
I need you to go along.
how about sitting in front of your microphone and laughing, whether bring moustaches the bare mustache Barbara Shaw: did you get all the way through to learn idea?
I got all the way through. I got two. I did that got the call to do like the comic strip
how'd it go show out when later in the middle of a whereas you climb go was it
here. I am, I am there
got it. I get their member going to that. Shall like one girl throwing up in the bathroom manure and like hell? Why can't is actually not know where we are different together, Mikhail in Macao, and so that mean us? That's what I mean
first met her. We were on the addition- and I was like obsessed with her when I say our beds- Numb it's a weird, it's really hard
things should Eleanor Gregory here s, another story: I ate yeah, it's it's kind of crazy, like our paths were like rightly rights, and then she went up there and I like
granted to allay so you she got on the show, for what would you is? I am when you're right, yeah and then yeah went where I went to allay like it broke I broke me. It broke my right and rejection on yak as I want. You know. I did that and then got young either what aid or the youngest it in any of you test that age and like I was getting very encouraging
you know emails from here the writers there, but then I didn't get it and it just like broke it brought me
was broken heart broken. I show business
I literally was like I'm leaving New York. There's nothing left
and what about Rebecca wheels,
I decided to go to allay together. You do yeah yeah. We week we came.
I lay together, thank God, Resent Movie
was tat what I mean. I know, and I was just another pitching session Coloma professor stole my third. I'm ok go! If she has that accident, you gotta yet
don't shoot from a colonialist India, some power YAP. Yes, a mega the best movie
so you get out here, yeah and everything
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can do the show because I've seen it so many times and I was like
which was Wild Jersey,
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through to nineteen seventy six I mean they were of contemporary, sank, ass, Ganda Sworder he's an old timer yet, but Frankie Valley, Serbia,
yeah, my frank advantage. It Valley here those wild I met
in this way that with grave many directive, the movie yeah how's quaint, I mean he's like the coolest guy.
Ever, and I mean this was like shortly after the chair situation, so that was a secret policy. John Grey effort during the actual there's a job is indeed
but you know he he left
the improvised onset, which was a great
I think it is that you do that, and I don't know I don't know very major film and now the fairy like that, but that that that movie just stuck basically to the broader Asia Rescript Right
but a three does not give rise to entertain him in any way. Do like two takes. We we, you know you don't do that. Much is very quiet. Sat he's very just like efficient just gives you like one little just meant but
really like trust the actors in the end they waited when you're talking to me, like. I don't like to look at myself. Any mark Jimmy,
really yeah he's like I really like when I log alone. I myself, I see this old guy, but I don't feel
outcome Herbert, but then he also make jokes about you know
my improv being like red and g wedded P and waited ex up
sounds like you have a real dynamically regularly. I pray you was that I mean give an actor. I imagine that he knows. Even
the copyright. Emily knows and like
what will come to yoke of your agenda cause? I'm sure he's very it's very intimidated disability at its with, where some people well close themselves, outcries its intimidating to approach them. He write like
it wasn't like the pleasant life is a window. You start that apple sisters package. That was your wolf right, yeah you're. Well, I think we started in two thousand ten or the radio play Kenneth yeah yeah would take. Our are all live, shows our scope to chose, and we would write new Pike S about them.
so. We would do that was like you must be won the first ones doing radio Theatre, podcast yeah,
yeah I mean I mean controlling adventure hour. They were doing stuff. I think right,
ten of it and allay era. We leave eventual across bath, but we are
you are doing like square. I didn't realize how kind of revel man revolutionary. Forgive me
the idea has been around but like how different it was to be doing scripted stuff on radko level. Time yet goes. It was wild West enemy that we start in two thousand and nine and they were podcast around, but it wasn't it
popular medium, so
you can do whatever you want it, and there is only a couple that I,
you are doing that scripted, stuff yeah there
a straight up. Radio plays in a way some of them in that became a very popular mode. Later I don't know when that happened when it really started to take off,
yeah. I work. Why we didn't continue is because, like there was like some some structure staff but then
we didn't make any money doing that Jordan and they were there.
Paying their engineers but, like I dont, think that much unlike then when they really
you guys have the figures on your own. We're like. We have no idea how to regulate listener.
The gap mega living one on a year once we had done it for like a year earlier doing all these brand new scripted shows we were colic. What like? What are we doing? Words kind of like
I think we had a great. We had a really
great by this airship you now and then it just. I got it once they kind of handed over to
so you're like to have you for, can do it. How do you get traction? How you do it? You do. I handed over to you in which, since it in order to write it,
monetize it now. I dont think they were discredit
take away. They were like we don't know. We can't do your studio time anymore or like economy like yeah. It was like the infrastructure they were taking from the night came of it
what will you do to your house that I think that a yak at the other building, the acknowledged by think that was when, like them, you know like when their bribing bought by somebody yeah sure by scripts, scrap stab. We are we
balance. That was, it was fun for us because you didn't ask. Do pops costumes book stage in Albania knows but but it but all of the
recording and put you know, tat
and producing without being done for us. In order for you,
you're doing without a figure out find some way to do that. Yeah she went away. I just went away. That's right. It was kind of sad
and then you just doing the acting yeah. It's
acting work, but that in any glow yap a gag glow the thing that definitely completely changed my life because I was about to
actually go run. A pike has network seriously,
I wanted you and Rebecca as a package for Lily S. Yeah till we addition together so generous. Then then
causing director the legendary casting derived areas. So I
we met in New York. She saw the apple sisters was a fad, the apples, his nurse you brought me influx got pilgrim. Oh you like brought me in.
very very supposed great in other once and I've known since she was like a child yeah. He sees the mate I've. It's been unlike she's scene of buds without and Jones, like they kind of like those. Two really have changed, my life for sure,
another casting direct and so get Jane,
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oh, which we both new and like the one we are like this is this is ever gonna happen until I was gonna, get like the timelines kind of crazy? I was gonna get.
plan as good you, the addition get up in New York except the job and then become of executive producer patches and though
Can we get we get the addition we she's like you, can improvise just do some characters and stuff, so we did like the apple sisters. We did a couple of other bits that we kind of come up with cuz like we drove back and forth to Vegas for years
reckon I we have so many show ideas with seventy characters that we do on we weren't back and forth, Vegas or because of Sarah low. My third apple system as a Vegas over reckon, I would derived less Vegas. So during those I during
it wasn't like hours and hours on around the two of us we came up with like we had a business together, called the nerves of a feather resolve had other passengers. We worked at the same time
together. We we like we sought. Pilots get like we have done so much shit because of our car right here that, with this cave, allow your wishes, like an extension of just like us being in car five hours, grew and grew so degree.
Story, heavy incubator indeed, and so we yet we
we audition and then we got a callback eyes like hilarious universal. I had to move my plane for me
In our view, a week of becoming the progress network, the big podcast break.
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eighties. Manned rebellion asked for it, but then they just set this out and talk to us about our story and like
He had now we may like. We had children three months apart, like with like we ve just
then everything together. They wanted real friends who were also a comic dual were, and that was custom made for you
truly, but we ass brilliant thank resource Adele coming down from like, like she so fat outside. We don't have a chance.
Because I had a baby like nine months. Not let not so we are like Africa. You know. Is this kind of one of the tradition there? We really through caution to the wind
and then I went to have coffee the next day with Molly Prather, and I decided to turn my phone off cuz. I was like I'm going to be.
moment I haven't seen you in my area relates together. She goes about, I may decide terms format and there's like forty Mescal, that, with its back
thou we got glove. How great is nice when it's all at once
Nevertheless, Genji experience for sure it was good
every time we have man, it was a great I we had, and it's so fucked up, that we couldn't finish it yeah. I really liked your message.
Back the movie? I really wonder when Anamaria Shaggy, I decided I answer from our lives. There is less it's fucking moving up like those of the people. We wouldn't have been that big. Do you know what
you know they could have like Netflix could have done it
yeah. I don't know what budgetary why things, but he was already.
Every written, a fuckin season, most of it so
like the writing, wouldn't have been that big a deal and
in terms of like it it just seemed like he could have been done. It would have been nice to do. It would have been real,
nice, but it really was an issue of I do it's not. I have sympathy behaved. I understand why.
You couldn't do it they're just holding onto that all those locations setting it wasn't indefinable and we
we could bear. We do it now. I mean right,
protocols, your shifted with that kind of show. I mean there's no way to do it without daily testing, and this just wasn't there and they couldn't wait reality
I know that with that that was a tough call again in like the midst of all this shit in oh yeah, so we went
how did you get this Eliza thing out? Because this is the first feature film yeah? So I
started directing television like I got my dj, I subjecting before, like I dropped a couple you to read series
like all Jeff like sketches, and I did Olive Rachel blooms like music videos, and you did
and like like a very busy with it. You
yeah before before a glove year long. I was just doing these psych. I did a website called junkie tears for coming central in it. Are you to read choke on hyperlink than I,
and those pilots, and they both got picture for series. It was kind of one of those things that motivated me that this might be what I should be doing and ride and then, of course, glow was like no.
when will you do it? No? No! No! No! No! They dislike hardly class to do so. Yet I was back in agony area, however, to the puppet show. Yeah though I didn't believe it like. I just didn't believe that, like anything, I don't I don't trust acting. I get on transactions, eggs like I always feel. Oh, you have leading, and you too have any power no agency. Indeed, yes, even though, like it was the greatest explained accusations of my life, but
it was just like I don't know. What's gonna happen after this, I need some like insurances, and so actually I got my first dj gig during forty one of closer. Let me often episode to direct this
Amazon Show, which was amazing because they don't have to do that for the organised and
so they saved our salaries, that's good good, all around, but then after a
they were to television. I was I direct. My first feature was a documentary
cut Nergal arising that I did in two thousand and eight, and while I made it with,
Jeanne Fireside. We made it. We found the sky empty front. Why Europe that dungeon and dragons, and
gathering for your money. So we are discovering this world and like two dozen piped, doesn't six here and we
throw money. Those pre kickstarter, so we were dislike, asked
What a paperless money with them, the credit and always in the forefront, Marquis cutting edge and that one
I myself was in two thousand and eight the that's kind of like where I started pajamas.
yet put european and american terms like I did go to
school, but this is kind of like my island had operate camera to sound and I had always been tinkering.
did you get back to a feature? Is that when this came all along that it was actually getting made, which you know is a miracle that any movie gets made
Eliza Movie, and she even turn make it for a long time. I read it. I like TAT. I knew what to do with it right. It was with universal
and it got pushed by three months
one issue in Chicago than a push by three months,
as regards China way of herself
she had good on paper for a long time. Eliza had the script. Yes, she is
for a long time, because those based on the story that she told stand up here and so she said, you know it
now stating a guy that turned out to be a complete fraud. Exactly I had pitched you know to her
and the producers and universal- and I got the job zone
It's your vision for the further for how yeah do you have to make a board? I the first reading was just start talking
story, characters, housing, a luxury and then the second meeting I put together a little luck book and look here. Yeah argument had casting idea:
as a hustle. You know a lot of the references were you know, those old thrillers and yeah and Eliza trusted you from the Gekko
I agree that now we re great working relationship and she's psych worker
yeah I mean I would have notes than I would send senator and then she would turn around the script and like three days while she was on the road doings.
fuck em worker be our cattle. Without such a hard worker and numb. You know
I I I
you know it came together so fast cause. I arrive.
I think I was higher. Probably a month for they're gonna start shooting and then it got push so
Some two hundred about the script, unlike get shit together, but luckily
I had worked on a lot of independent. I come from independent film, Laura
he stopped. I could call upon a lot of good people.
Quitting. My hd drew Langer who worked with the deplore. Rather so he really gets that, like her low budget year fast pace of other people that when could make a movie and couple weeks, yes
drew his actually winds whistling
They d visa rights than why
I obviously hugely admired everything she did and probably modeled my whole career after what she did,
yet when she went to make movies you'd make a movie. I know
it's very inspiring egg. Just do it
like what he waited for, because here we know that if you go to the city could take forever so this
He felt very much in that spirit. It was just like. Let's do it, you know call them every favour possible.
And it was not, you are right, I mean listen. It was
this one point: two million dollar movie it at universal. Here it got eight, we finished it right, the top and pandemic. So I finished
editing in February twenty twenty year,
and then had to do all the rest, the post of when the pandemic of first starting here we were just like invent like we were
let's try, this thing called zoo right of general beggar and try to like do. Eighty are batavian. I wouldn't want you didn't give released into after till a few months ago, right yeah a few months ago here. So when I kind of one when we started this fell,
What kind of thought it was gonna be in this tat. Southward
incinerators and then Netflix kind of came in a real
they got behind it and like put it on billboards,
Times square area, unbelievable near like
I do all those escaped to like it could.
Might not have gone that way if you got festivals
probably doesn't have their line distributor and like just a year but the air they made a big deal that cause or would it will show
Does she have a deal there or an earth like his name they naval, given her a lot of opportunities, yeah yeah, so they had like shower? I should like five special area. It was the perfect place to go
ultimately, because it would have ended up at a streamer anyway, and so the fact that
we are going out when I saw her she's like number three or network that that was trippy
and I was scared out of my mind because this you know you can, I kind of way
and thinking like. Ok great. This be, like you know, like all my friends like they owed. They do the festivals slowly get to their Bayard a movie and like it was just like out of it.
Like you like your director. Now you do preachers. This is what we think of you. Risk here is still scurry, still scared,
have you got offers and stuff for you. It's been great, it's been great and you know it still. It's always going.
Hard to make a movie, no matter what I had been attached to a big Sony feature before I got Eliza Movie Inner fell through, but that attachment to that big movies, a thing that got me Eliza Movie were so everything
like serve? This purpose are eagerly unlike everything's, a learning lesson in the
Well, how my directing career the movies help my tv directing her picture
You never know when it's workin out its work,
How do you think's mark this? Is such a nice thing?
you for you to invite me. I
always wondered when it was gonna happen if it was ever
happen and have been. It means a wedge thing and my father in law. Listen to this pike as religiously. So, what's up J, look! Ok, we'll get I M glad it would cause. Great, I have to say, is a causes. Gimme mark talked about
it will in any event, thank you for that up up up up up now, you know a lot about you.
Jimmy gave word good on paper. That movie with Eliza was under. That directive is now streaming on networks and don't forget it can happen
so easily you're out with your friends or coworkers you're, putting back a few drinks, a few becomes a few too many
it's time to go for a moment. You think
call arrive on colony arrived
But hey wait a minute, then you think you're a good driver
you live near by you can make it home? Ok, yeah! Well, what are the odds you'll get pulled over and even so, what
worse. It could have right. You lose your license right wrong. Yours,
job? Maybe you totally car you? Could
you kill someone. Could
kill yourself. Could it only takes
one mistake to change your life or someone else
forever or ended
safe and plan ahead to get a ride? Dr Sober or get pulled over
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