Rumours are swirling! Jeff and Elliotte continue to work the Patrick Kane situation and what teams might be knocking on the door (00:10), discuss the competitive Eastern Conference (5:00), Boston and Washington make a deal (6:50), where the Capitals will go from here (14:00), how Minnesota has situated themselves at the deadline (17:00) along with the Senators (17:45), what we’ll see from the Blackhawks (19:30), how Carolina is approaching the next week (23:50), wonder if we’ll see Jakub Vrána on the move (29:00), different disagreements in both Pittsburgh (32:20) and Philadelphia (36:30) and Elliotte gives us some quick hitters with Torey Krug (30:30), Luke Schenn (30:45) and Timo Meier (31:20).
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The way the boom out then say the boon now boom out now it's a boom such through fit right. Yeah, ok, welcome to what should be another action, packed trade filled discussion
you thought, supply gas presented by gm sea and the new sierra eighty four x. I don't know how we refer to the pact kane situation other than calling it may be the new giroux or do we call it elliot giroux part to know giroux to giroux too and might be the name of the podcast as well as your route, to which you refer
to his last wrapped. The asked our game quadruped went to the philadelphia fires and said: look
if you're gonna move me, it's gonna, be one team, it'll be the florida panthers.
really narrowed, which are fletcher was allowed to do, enable to do and that's why they're
and might not have been what some flyers fans expected. Are we seeing something similar here with patrick kane, Chicago blackhawks and the new york rangers open
pursuing the agent for Patrick kane joked tonight
tax message exchange that his phone is
floating. I don't even think it's blowing up in the vernacular.
Of the word. I think it might literally be exploding and his call
now she had around a couple of other media outlets, but his call
is patrick
has made a decision yet so this
what I think is going on, as you know, Jeff
The rangers is sitting out. Two players proud solve endless decision. Now I heard
chris jury was calling teams and
asking if there was a way he could move about
point six million dollars and cap room, and if he can do that in a trade
I think we all need to wash the waiver wire on friday and that
Can you tell us what exactly is going on here? So the fact that research-
still being quoted as we take this podcast on Thursday night
as saying that Patrick heinous,
Not made its decision, it says
to me that the
mechanism is slowly turning an egg
everything, has to get into place before
any ones making any pronouncement here so the gear
your grinding right now, but you know, is
In writing. To you know, we talked over the past couple weeks about where pat kane
to be in its pretty clear as much as we can
about other tee,
whether its vegas, whether its dallas
any of the teams of he's gone through in the past couple of weeks, where the show is very much on four patrick kane this.
and this is where it seems like elliot this scheme-
this is patrick kane
dishing for the new york rangers sang a look. I still have a lot of game here. There's room
or me, along with lad terrorist saint, go, don't forget
Good, I am like when you-
pat kane lately, the last couple of weeks like the past seven games like? Are you
Not seeing a guy who's determine
get somewhere. We strongly suspect new york, the origin
I think when it comes down to this- is a lot of the comments that you've made in the past week and a half have really pissed them off like I, I think this is solely on you. Oh, is that right. Have I been the one going on about the hip and last? Is that okay, alright,
I am I'm a witness to it. I have heard it I gave you have really pissed off this tie this time, the modalities, no there's no good, like
job like no you're right leg, saturday night, when we were doing our work, how many teams told you
alec if we were in on kane were kind of out of it. Now is not showing us much yes. Yes, that was a thing and the price was too high was one of the things that I was told, the rate at or uncomfortable at that price. One goes with the other right. Yeah like to be honest, I don't think the price was ever ridiculous. I think the chicago black eyes were perfectly prepared to be reasonable. On this. This is patrick kane.
It's time to move on, men will put a mental place, he's happy to go. I think when you
we're tell you the price was July because they just didn't think they worked
and tat he could really help them.
Well now a someone looked at them.
At? I think we ve all been consistently putting out and myself to and they
like elliot? That list is too small, like it's, not
asked vegas in Dallas and in the rangers and carolina, it's all bunch of teams.
this week reaching out and sang look like. Does he want
to us cause if he does will soon?
find a way to make it work like. I think the list of
contains actually grew. However, I am not
sure his list of teams, he was interesting, grew by very much
we all know if the rain
you can get it done there? The favorites
If the rangers actually do this and get the romany doesn't go their jaws
are going to drop, and not just
jaws, like normal people, but like
tune jaws dropping like a family died jogged robbing peter grip
it's dropping yes and no. You need two hands the picket backup owing to watch a tumble back again to the fore. Well. Well, we'll see, because you know what
look at that, and there will be some tougher decisions like let's get ahead of ourselves here and if he does indeed end up. I member of the new york rangers like there is a spot still in that top six, their forum yup, and it makes the new york rangers look frightening.
you, like we're gonna, get the boston here and a second, but that
eggs. The rangers look,
hair of fighting for anybody jeff you
this week right, what did you say, eastern octagon? Always
our friends octagon. Normally you put twenty words it. It's not giroux.
Thirty, two, it's giroux two! I gotta put my english degree to work somehow alia. Let me be a little flowery with the language it's eastern octagon and look like if the rain
Do this we're at tugboat boss. The minute terrain was added were all waiting for tat, but I think we are all waiting for carolina too, like that's were waiting for. Their move will talk about dammit, a minute think about only too,
teams in the east are gonna, be standing after to rouse. Think about
who's going out in the first round of the playoffs
is other girl, I'm looking lookin at light. Look ranges of made one of their
couple of moves year, terrorists, ankles already in border
Its playing with the islanders and boy did you ever need him now, with the injury to Matthew bars on the rhine, o Reilly, deal with maple police and we're gonna get to boston and their moves of the washington capel's. Anybody in the west wanna help themselves here, because
the point like whoever comes out of the east is going to be damaged. Goods like this could be
our crash is you big car crash. You have to be public. The west is still to be rough too, like it's gonna be physical, but it's not, as
band, ok, Boston! Ok! Before we get to
trade. I want to talk about gavrilov forsake because I've.
In riding this train for a week and a half- and I feel I better explain myself- cause people are going to be like okay, what happened here and a couple
I would like to say first of all number wine
have no doubt not
at all
the reason column,
scratch gavrilov was because they thought
they had something but the ruins, and I think it was
more than just
in their eyes. I have to make this very clear
In their eyes, it was more than just we
do something they believed
There was some kind of verbal commitment there and
because I don't think he's been very happy, I think he's
like when is this happening? One is this happening. I want
play like children. He got
This he understands he's not complaining as long as he gets dealt gavel
I think, was very different. He was like
Let's go, let's go, I wanna play let's go, and I think this
time Columbus believed that they had something with boston. I think Boston feels very differently.
he felt there was never a commitment that they had taught
conceptually and they were thinking about doing it and it was on their radar and I think they talked arizona about children.
They legitimately looked at that. I think they talk to chicago.
about a package of mikhail and laughed.
The deal. I think that was discussed. So I think they looked at a couple, a different things.
And don sweetie in his media availability after the trade with said the oars
I've hathaway thing can together pretty quick
Ultimately, you wanna get players in here and get them acclimated uncomfortable with their new teammates.
in the long run way you can have probably better off you're going to be in and I think that they presented
a situation where we we felt we could the aggressive and close it
If you just never know the time, as I always said, every deal,
Contrary situation has its own time line and in the other
work again that our approach, the app has done over the over the period of time, resources that the ownership is as presents to us and and then you gotta, get in on this captain
Sometimes you have to be ultra created them and we were
hard in this situation? To do that? And you don't leavenworth
a lot on this deal too, to see a confirmation were thankful that the two
call in washington? Did the same
earlier on thursday, like not long before that trade came down Columbus
though the deal wasn't gonna happen and color
whose and boston I dont know
The judge this
I dont know who is right in whose wrong
columbus in Boston had very different opinions on where this trade, wise Columbus thought.
add a commitment, Boston felt
It was never there
and so I had some.
you're telling me that Boston continued to look.
I was actually on the phone
talking to somebody,
gm when I say
to get news of the deal?
he was like, while I thought for sure gavrilov was done so
and depending on who you talk too. There are differing opinions on on where
this was. Why did the
the day?
and made this deal. One quick point before you do. This
in washington deal. I wonder now, because after thursday nights Edmonton,
pittsburgh game edmonton makes her way to Columbus.
play against the blue jacket on Saturday I
I wonder about the oilers thou with gaffer cough, and I wonder if finally, saturday gaffer kafka's to play again I'll tell you
is we're going to find out really quickly, because
there was no other deal.
I assume is going to be back in the lineup. Like I said I I verde really wants to play, so I think there were very
differing viewpoints on where this trade wise and since I was one of the people who had been talking about sure, gavrilov going to Boston. I thought I owed everybody. Explanation, ok,
turn the page on that washington and the boss
some ruins we'll get what this means for the
brussels in a second but the Boston ruins
their turn to load up now. Dmitri orlov, gardening
away to the boston, bruins craig smith, a first second and third, going the other way? Why
containing fifty percent of orlov's contract, minnesota, gobbling up twenty five
they get a fifth round pig through all of it and now the
awesome, ruins just got nastier and blue line got deeper, will get there,
still in the second but the boy
Now our loading up for
it's a great return for the capitals. It's a hell
video for boston
to me. The difference between this orlov deal and the gavrilov deal. Is that
the way. As with it. Why
the thing somebody told me after this trade came down wise.
February, eleven the couple sire days ago, why
engine played in boston and garnish Hathaway scored the winning goal and
it was, as neither the euro was a two nothing goal and their capitals wanted to two one philadelphia thought or clipped at first one back, but a flock Jacob loud call center taken away. Half I cut it out of ITALY's hours away what our shot.
and apparently at a pretty good night and also he's a local guys? So it really helps, but I think that night
like the bruins were like if this guy's available were in on him,
even though apparently they had a connection
with the early his family. So he was actually a capitals. Fan he's got ties to boston and
I think the bruins really like tat and wash
didn't. I didn't really tell anybody until the end of last week, beginning of this week that day
we're just saying whatever like they were just
potentially waving the white flag in.
one of our: u s? U f! A's tell us,
you know what you want to do and I think the fact that sweden
locked and he could get Hathaway orlov. That's what tipp the deal for you of a first second and third plus craig smith
the first and the third is exactly white collar.
I was looking for four gavrilov soul. He was able to get Hathaway too, and I
I think that this is what did it for Boston? Like he's a brewing?
you play for allotted teams, but that guy looks
like a brewing in place like a brewing and they look tremendous I
really thought it was gonna, be tampa for hathaway
I really really did that's the kind of guy the julian breeze bar rings in our own trade deadline, time to help for the play off push, but he goes
that division any goes. The boston ruins- and you know when you look
through a typical players, he plays like a barone fridge,
He really does he's got more offensive upside, I think than he shown in washington
and he's nasty and he's miserable and he's a beautiful playoff player he's a boston player through and through
The washington capitals then so we ve talked about
for a while abode. You know you ve made the point about the math
look good and how this season, for very
reasons and injuries is one of them and one horrible injury to John karlsson, whose such a key piece of the puzzle for the wash
and capitalist. This has not been a good seas, and now we didn't think and still don't think, that's
the washington capitals again a strip. This thing down, I think, they'll, take
Small bunny, hop back and then try to large forward next season. As everybody comes back refresh,
but what I wonder now is how many
Players go and how many players end up get
reassign, had the ways the always expiring. He goes
I wonder now what becomes of eric gustafson
who now, when you look at, have one on the left side. Everybody gets a bump up now neither orlov is gone,
I wonder if he now,
slides into wash
mountains top six
he's someone there. Brian MC clellan looks to move, or is he someone the Brian mcclarnon, looks to sign to a longer term deal like does a number of you have phase that are so
this roster that we wonder about whether its conor sherry, whether its large zeller, nicholas obey, who bell
trevor van reims. Diagnostic Jensen is well you stole so
Peace is here that the capitals can play with. What do you think
this deal means for those guys
is essentially. Does this mean that washington is now open for business and will listen to offers on all these players with contracts that are about to expire?
I think they're listening. Yes, I I think they ve made very clear
their willing to listen and there you are phase if you ve got
my send it right
Mcclelland way you can see
by text. You can see
by signal. You could see
goodbye telegram you could set it by fax. You could centre by email. Just send it Brian
collins way. Look. I think they ve tried
sign some guys. I think they tried to sign or love I have.
That the issue there was term. I dont think orlov was lookin for eight years, but I think he was looking for close. I just don't think the car
waddles were willing to go much beyond three or four as america.
would be shocked if they are willing to go beyond for it all.
Oh that's one thing I think they ve taught contract was
but the other guys you mentioned, I think they ve talked on,
I'm level with gustafson, I think they ve tried to figure out there.
range like a little bit
like. I wonder now: Orlov's gone disorder,
to move down your list, ok, who's. Next, so I think he's doing both. I think he
he's trying to see who is willing to resign. Why
the numbers are: does it make sense here
we'll. Do it look? He did
with mulatto data was strong? Does
since no, then I'll make a move like that's? What we're seeing from them so far
sense of what minnesota's doing here. This is the second trade they ve been involved in where they ve played banker,
I'm kind of surprise at the team. That's in salary cap prison is playing banker on trades. Will they have a lot of room this? I understand that, but basically, though it this means this year's at the draft in nashville.
From rounds. Forty six we're going be calling minnesota alot,
Bulgaria and you have the next big after that bulgarian citizen forced, say, jawed bracket
bracket. You have that expec summit,
you buy lottery tickets right in and this is minnesota easier to buy lottery tickets. I'll, tell you something else too. Obviously, teams
well that the wilder easy to deal with, because its twice now not really good point
a couple of the team to want to go over here then they keep. As I said, deal with the ottawa senators. I wanna get the chicago here and the second is a couple: a names we should go over bud ottawa sends I serve a second and a fourth too.
cargo blackhawks in exchange for futures, this
vague term again, futures elliot Friedman. Do we ever discover what the futures are, or will they just vanish into the hockey ethers
No worry. We're. Never gonna see that. That's like that care them,
patch, already futures, maybe they'll say like a gift basket or something like that by nice, christmas card sufficient.
is christmas card? No, we won't. We won't see anything there. I really cares to what this is going to mean that I do think god was looking out there for de right now. I don't think it's children,
we're all just wondering- can order, would do anything with ter
like someone asked me if they thought it was karlsson,
I don't think it's karlsson. I dont think it
children am, I know, there's a lot of rumours about parade old, but I don't have any confirmation that
conversations actually happened, doesn't mean it.
Wrong, but I do
I know that it's happened. Another guy,
was thinking about four ottawa actually- and this is just my personal opinion- be a good pick up for them
nick Jensen,
right hand shot from washington having a real good year. Usa,
the cost wouldn't be
small by
he's a good player
domvilles another guy that they ve looked at in the past, but I mean
I dont know right now. I I can't give you agree
name at this point in time, but I know they're looking I I stick to my line and that is that every defence man who's been available. They ve looked into
so here's a wonder about which a now think he does have keep or buy out is a couple of options here for kyle davidson yeah were given,
feeling either way the thing about,
buying allowed the o? Someone said to me that if
by m o calf of his salary. Basically, next year's inciting bonuses and you can't buy
signing bonuses right? Yes, so the
actual savings would be, I think, eight hundred and thirty three thousand dollars. Thank you. Cap friendly
I have calculator
someone was saying to me. If you buy em out
probably citing another defence moon for white seven, seventy five, so the king,
Please do actually save any money. If that's the case, there
Are you really saving a lot of money in the
he's your saving like sixty thousand dollars, so I think it comes
two
buy them out, or do they just use em instead
of paying like another defence when the minimum. That's what another e m was asking me, because he could
the situation where
cargo saving money and not trying to win says why
we're getting rid of him over just going to sign another guy for the minimum. Another dig will like. Why would we do that? So I thought that was a very legit point, one of the
clear for the Blackhawks want to ask you about it's a real good story: it's a story or perseverance and and finally getting somewhere and fulfil
a dream. You ever thought on David gust. Yes, I do twenty nine years old gets in any job
interact. David gust, as
said twenty nine years old than usual
guy he's from orleans park illinois and he's gonna make his an age
they view some time with the blackhawks coming
soon I just sign of twinning each all contract on why
wednesday, so
the things I found out about david gas was that was the
first time in his career and he's been approach since two thousand and seventeen, where
He's ever been offered an age of contract, so
he's but, like he's been approved for
seven years, and he never been offered an nhl contract before the story on him is in truth,
in seventeen was a sea or ohio state and he
a really big performance in front of kelly buck birder of the
edmund and others who was scouting at the time and
berber, saw him and recommended him to the oil.
And so they sign up to an age l contract at bakersfield and
No, he kind of moved around you.
two charlotte. He went to chicago with the hurricanes.
For a couple years and bakersfield and law
last year, he had a really good year for the wolves. He had sixteen goals in the place. He had twelve points in eighteen.
The of the walls, one the called her cup and
after the year was over
apparently he he said. I'm done
a guy. I know I'm not really guy going very much farther and my innate shall career bites,
No. I want to go out and a high. We won the called her cup this year. I played really well and he was dead
he decided, he was gonna retire well,
Apparently he was talked into continuing to play. He signed with rockford, which is still close to home, for him he's got fifty points and fifty one gains and he got the
shall contract in the call up and he flew to me-
them in San jose, where the black.
I will be playing on Saturday. I just
that's in and
ridable, incredible story. I love to see people like that. Get rewarded twenty nine years old, just turned twenty nine. On tuesday,
I just that just turn this morning I on tuesday and looked out. Why was talking what about
they a gift
career, and I hope it works out great freedom, because that's the guy
story, we all like to see can't wait.
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ok, ellie, we ve talked about the teams in the eastern conference have done something whether it's too may believes the islanders. The rangers, the boston bruins, were waiting for. A few teams here were waiting for new jersey and were waiting.
the carolina hurricanes. What do you think? I think the hurricanes like their prey,
but are being stealth. I have to say that your kind of wondering what there
do in and what their up to see
one of the guys I've kind of wonder about with them is, as I told you
on the vote.
radio today on the Jeff Merrick show with Jeff merrick
that I've started to hear nick Malta's name out there,
and what made me feel better about that was. I saw craig morgan, then tweet hearing same
I'm not in arizona on fourchan
lakers I'd have a much better tat.
You wouldn't have his sword back from shovelling as much snow as we all have an last coming, but I wonder what is it that was great exercise on thursday morning when he tweets that out
It's good reinforcement that your information is accurate. I guess that was tweed out on
day and someone sent me a tweet where that was mentioned, and they said this.
screams carolina like
screams, caroline
and I don't necessarily think they're the only wine licked. So
the problem with some of these guys in arizona is we.
when we see them alive and
Malta is a really skilled guy. His knee
trade kicks in vienna the season July first and his cash act
it goes over cap, its cash over cap actual
salaries above his cap- it the next few years
so to be clear on that one. So what else is talking about is the the cap hit is five point: eight five million for the next three seasons, but the actual money that the
pays in annex three season. Seven point: five six point:
five and then eight point five and the final year of the contracts
ok, so there you go, and you know I think
other thing here too, is someone else said to me: he doesn't fit arizona window and that is
absolutely true. He does not fit.
arizona window and block either
all distracted by the trade deadline. Right now, I think after
trade deadline is over? We're gonna start develop more questions about what is going on down there, because there
certainly a feeling that they can take any money
We all know that there are not enough.
to win this year and are now expecting to win for the next couple of years by theirs
efforts between that and the old, just kind of like stripping it down to the beach
rules which were hearing the rumours that they might do
The one thing is, I want to see what it looks like after the deadline is over. I think that's only fair, but like we're still looking at this gone. Ok, what are we? What are we seeing here and the way
for trade is even more that anyway. I think what it does
its leg, credence to yell could schmaltz be available and, to me
that screams carolina ends
they ve conversation? The same guy said to me: you know: well, screens carolina.
I say who's that negotiation. Gas despair
So this same person is trying to talk me.
into like
I'm not a trade scenario and unlike the eye
if I should be presenting two
trade scenarios right now, but I got. I just thought that
interestingly, those guys are definitely up.
Carolina is alley in terms of the type of player, and the things too is schmaltz has turned
If caroline is gonna pay for somebody they,
the term- and I have to say this- I think they were more interested in kane than they may have led on. I just think we kind of all wondering that we see where this is going. Here's something interesting
because you mention the pair o schmaltz an gases bear I dont reject that. Out of
and I also don't think that something is a coincidence that we are seeing more and more of an
one outlier here is the boar vat deal these remote.
We'll player deals.
The one today is, or laugh and hathaway
We saw ryan o reilly an nor the chary. We solve
tourists anko and Nikko mictla were seeing
there's go in pairs now as a theme
so far around this deadline. So when you say schmaltz
Ass despair. I dont look
and say not a chance is gonna, be no one clear here. One player there it
looks like for whatever reason- and I know if it's the seller or the buyer, by
one side legs doing deals for two more than deals for one it, sir.
To be. I mean people who actually count this stuff will properly.
no better, but the eye
as to me seems to be there's a lot more to player deals. Maybe,
of the needed retention me,
because you think you can get more of a hall this way now. I think why
part of it is like you, Boston.
Just trades for orlov. They pray dont, get
second round or rain washed in boston can tell us later like. If this is right, but I've heard this
anything before you, do your first the third floor
orlov alive, when you do your second for hathaway. Now, maybe that's not the case.
For this deal, but it's the case did
Many deals like this have,
I thought I was happening with jake. A brain was pivoted a trait quickly here. This is a
becoming an intriguing story. We thought that perhaps we had seen the last of J
Brenda in the detroit redwings uniform, not so fast called up from greece.
rapids and has been an intriguing
Forty eight hours, let's just say for Jacob, ran law
every time I
goddamn comes up. I just told me that a good place, that's the number one thing I hope for days at a good place there,
no question in my mind that this is a showcase, so people could see
We all know how he was the oh yeah
mention some teams, we can talk about some of these other teams, no,
the might heard wise jersey and
someone said to me your kind to be careful with that
yes, the devil's, are looking to see if there's any undervalue forwards out there.
is that what you try to do: try to fund undervalued forwards, but new jersey,
didn't even have a scout, for example, at
game in washington the other night, so
I know it always look at scouting list, because I think they're a little bit deceiving but I'm
watching these ones a little bit closer, because
to me there's a reason that ran is playing.
Teams wanna have a bit of a look at him in addition to that, Jeff
doing their research off the ice like are, are, we sure he's a good place? Is that the most important thing? Ok,
couple of quick once you earlier gimme a couple of fast balls. The couple queries
first of all. Someone said to me my tory krueger
vegas idea. Like just fury- and I said there was a theory I had
people say to me that ones not gonna happen, so
stop theorizing had number one number, two luke Shan, this spinner really tough one to go with, because I think at times,
on hot and then it's cool down, it's got hard than its cooled down. I was
impression as of thirst
afternoon that it wasn't imminent, but
change is alot soul,
I just want to say that I think the guy's going through a really tough times so waiting for all this. I just want to say that it seemed it was when one of its cooler-
it's on thursday afternoon, but again like these.
Things change fast,
and the other one we're all waiting on his team meyer
somebody made a really good point to me Jeff. So they have the
patrick Marlowe stuff. This weekend we
The teams- I think he's in on this kind of said to me, or not
sure they wanna gonna, want to do this in marlowe weekend rate. But, like again, I really hate
making predictions at this time of year. I absolutely hate making predictions at this time of year so as we
Take this on thursday night and you
to it on Friday morning? This is the best
information, I can give you, but a things change her soul,
please take everything knowing that is change. This podcast was self destruct in twenty four hours.
elliot another day, another tough night for the pittsburgh penguins. As they continue to slide of game again see edmonson oilers. What
happens in penguin, town or Jeff. What's
Putting according to rob rossi of the atlantic is that there's a split and penguin town of old jacob chickering rob Soria friday morning sing that children.
Is on Sullivan's radar, but not hack stalls, cosette stall doesn't want to give up the future draft capital to get em and
penguins vans and may not like to hear this and MIKE Sullivan may not
to hear this. By
stand. Why hext stance is what it is on this one? I do think
sport was an onlooker luke this week, luxuriant obviously doesn't have the sealing the jacob chickering does, but
he doesn't cost you. What chickering
going to cost you in, and I think on some level, especially after watching us.
the games this week with pittsburgh. You
have to be realistic about who
and what you are and leg. Look, I'm watching the NBA right now in the lake
as with
lebron James and anthony Davis,
might not make the play oil slicks, sometimes it happens.
And you can have the greatest players and they have
one guy who, among the best ever one guy who's close
one guy he's getting his number retired with them.
sometimes it just happens and avoid.
Was the penguins I'd, be really careful about giving up first round picks, even for a guy like children, the one
I would kind of wonder about Jeff is if they could.
Sell off even more pieces like me,
we try to sell all their? U F, a's and then try to get children
for you, ve done all that
the issue is not with children. The idea, I think it's actually a very good idea for them, but my issue: is you ve added one player on a team that needs to fill me?
double hulls? And you don't have
capital to do
with even more of those holes.
that's why I understand what washington's doing good
give them options the
they do with. Why wonder of washington by the way could be a team for children at all, because now they have extra picks will see an
lots of holes on the fence, but the thing with pittsburgh is, I think they have to
worked a lot more assets and then decide before I
they blow all their assets on the one player. That's what I'd be thinking if I was them look of pittsburgh
the plows this year and their man
there's still o k,
even though they ve had a really rough week, you're gonna get
austin or you gonna get caroline in the first round. I would be,
very careful about
doing what you have an.
that you have four,
up in the first round were you're an extreme underdog and yes, I know anybody can win. The only other
here too, as Sullivan has term and headstall doesn't that's the other thing, that's a fact.
You're here, the o sullivan? I know he wants to win in the most come one of the most competitive guys alive, and I get that, but I
since that hextall was the kind of guy who's gonna try to make it,
fraid the save his job and then
look at it, be a resume killer in a few years if it turns out to be totally lopsided and the franchise doesn't get better over the next couple of years. It's a tough
all looking. It robs reporting,
stairway headstall feels that way. You'll
think of a cabinet who they ve made available. I think
at least one eastern team this year that
had some interest in capital in and
ecstasy. Wasn't that interest in trading them there
So now it's different, they probably will move him anywhere. They can buy it
kind of interesting to see how that has changed.
Tough time there, but I wouldn't,
blowing all their futures on one move. I'd be looking to make me
the bull moves
and consider my options with all the assets I
by a cell.
the eye the other team in the keystone state, the philadelphia flyers, so
wanted to give a little bit of credit to frank, sir value at a good. No today about Joe affair,
be being really unhappy and I think it's true,
just so. You know, I think the story is accurate here,
played three minutes in the wine on Monday afternoon and Calgary, and he probably would have been banished
tuesday, night and Edmonton had Travis konecny, not gotten hurt
Pardon me is kind of like ok
farrabee at a really tough here
had some surgery in the summer I know towards rail is set on not letting him used as an excuse, but it is a factor and the odds
really tough here for him
and as an organization the flyers, I would be prepared to say, hey
This is a right off year for fairer. We just want you to finish it as good as possible and you'll be back
here, it'll be a new year he'll. As for what
Philly things Jeff, I was told there are not doing it like they're they're, not doing it,
The challenge here right now is that your toward a at this point in time is very much the face of the organization, so he's
a lot to say, and I think what farrabee
or the people around him are worried about, is why would we expect this to be any different in the future
this is John tortorella, this
is the way he is and at this point in time,
Think Joel farrabee once
more years of this,
I always say things, can change, but that's the way I think the joule farrabee
feels right now. If this
way it's gonna be, and we know how toward a relic is. I don't want this
long term.
Now we'll see where this goes. Don't forget, I said
for one person, this happened would
entourage and vincent locality, joy, yeah and abandoned in stanley, korea, and with this
responded to me was kids are different. Now. Why,
vincent locality a would have accepted twenty years ago he's
convinced
that some of these young players will deal with now
Someone told me of this year when that darrell sutter Jacob pelagia
it with
What number did you were here
to me, there isn't a player under twenty five in the initial that did watch that clip fifty times and talk about what it meant.
So we'll see, I think,
thanks. Intel in the moment is higher percent. Accurate
I think, long term. The flyers will look at this as we can solve this. I just wonder how the
layer feels because John too
well is who he is, and he
we stopped true to himself
don't change very much when it comes to coaching philosophies and what drives a player, so can this be fixed? Look
sure you remember how that John Tortorella vincent le cavalier thing played itself out if I'm out with a stanley cup, while it was finished with a stanley cup before that, when there was the conflict, I believe it was in Jay Feaster would have been the gm in question
Gee feast, her essentially saying to both of them? I'm not
can a fire john toward ursela, and I'm not gonna trade, vincent le cavalier, you two guys are here: you need to work this out higher per se, but, like I said
it's different. Now. Ok will finish the pot energy feast, her story. How do we like the ok,
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