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The release of special council robert mothers. Long awaited report last thursday created new headlines, but did
thing to lessen the country's partisan divide, one
however, that at least u s, intelligence officials agree on
Russia's cyber espionage efforts constitute one of the greatest
we face as a nation tonight,
when I tell you about one of the most insidious aspects of that threat when they go.
Well, beyond what robert mahler documented in his investigation
it is the growing an unlikely partnership between russia,
governments, spy masters and russian cyber criminals, one of the first public?
hence this unholy alliance. Came
coincidentally,
president obama imposed sanctions on russia's intelligence agencies for
fearing in the two thousand sixteen presidential election at this
each time a little noticed he
also sanction to big time russian criminal hackers. How do you,
I came to unmask them, is a great detective story
and a rare window into this marriage maiden Hell
What you're seeing is the world one of the world's most sophisticated intelligence operations when it
cyber espionage using the criminal groups
their intelligence ends and protecting them from and law enforcement.
John Carlin, the assistant attorney general for national security during the obama administration echoes what
aren't you us officials have confirmed to us about the russians, so
intelligence agencies are what piggybacking on
criminal and the price increases
cannot tell which is which, when it comes to the criminal and the intelligence agency, so one day the same crook may be doing.
think purely to make a buck, but that same crook maybe derive
did by a trained intelligence operative, using the same tools and techniques to steal
information from them for the goals of the state
Why would the government
rely on crooks. They couldn't do their own intelligence by relying increasingly on criminals and the tools that they use. They make it really difficult to figure out who did it? They want high
their tracks for years they were able to hide their tracks behind the criminal exploits of this russian hacker of guinea Bogucharovo, one of the
the eyes most wandered cyber criminals. Today, with
three million dollar bounty on his head- he is the most prolific
most dangerous and most notorious cybercriminals history Dave hit it
as the former? U S, attorney in pittsburgh, who oversight
the government's investigation of bugger chop, which began
two thousand and nine
Beginning did you know anything about his connections to the russian government? We were very much in the dark about who he was where he was. He was a fan
over the internet, effectively a phantom
with no known address or nationality who went by
online aliases of slavic and
Ok, one two, three: four: five
it was known. Was there
had created a computer program that enabled him to steal victims online credentials, which he then you
to drain their bank accounts. It was called game,
first Zeus, if you are infected
it was game over. Did he
ass to individuals or did he go in and disrupt companies are both
He was particularly prolific with banks and
businesses at a time of payroll too, how, by
a fine lucky one, two, three, four, five, the feds brow
together cyber security experts from around the world, including
microsoft, which
already looking into this, because so many of its clients had been hacked. So this
the microsoft cyber crime sector. It is it's the home of our digital crimes, unit tom bird
The vice president of cyber security at microsoft, which was in
stood to understand how game over Zeus worked and to identify
where the infected computers were located on this,
alma nebraska and the f b. I reported that the first infections they bound we're here in omar
and then you begin to see what show
you see where all the infected computers were.
we're part of this criminal met, all my goodness wow
These are the infected devices connecting to the internet throughout the united states that were part of this game over Zeus.
criminal enterprise, and now you can see how it was
Really, a global
global network
The network of a million infected computers under the complete control
of this cyber thing. You know, what's it
almost as interesting is where the red dots are is whether or not that is interesting.
So look at russia
Not at all unusual for these criminals who operate these kinds of networks to act,
We design their code, so it will not in fact, computers in the
three they live in
microsoft. Investigators worked with the fbi to map the spread of game over Zeus,
also reverse engineered its computer cod and
They saw stun them a thicket of interconnected in
acted computers around the world. That may
nearly impossible to trace back to its creator.
Gave one two three four five. We looked at it and said: well, how do we stop this and he was just hiding behind all of this.
the wizard of oz behind everything, the very
rich wizard of oz, what microsoft
figured out was awaiting
I back the wizards curtain, typing command
created computers that we called honeypot that we act
we got onto the criminal network. We got them infected
that we could then see all the traffic. All the
indication that was passing through the network and once you are able to do that, what was it it just a matter of time before you broke them down
Once we have that information, and we understood how the network worked, we gave
to the fbi eyes. They then had a lot of work to do before they are able to identify who the real bad guy was the fbi
Two other security experts were how one of them was
stone gross of the cyber security firm crowd strike when you start
to analyze, game over Zeus. How advanced house
just a kid bread was it from every angle. There was innovative and berlin and what they did is they had designed a system that was very difficult for both research
yours and law enforcement to take action against. How long did you track, and yet we attract him closer ten years you
cases, guy, for ten years, as the f b, I dug deeper
they realized. His criminal operation was every bit as innovative and brilliant, as is complete.
Your code, lucky
two three four five had assembled something law enforcement had never seen before a syndicate,
super cyber criminals looting, banks,
and businesses with impunity. We work
facing a group of individuals which was known as the business club, which was a key
action of some of the most skilled
and dangerous cyber criminals in the world who had formed what was basically
a twenty first century, mafia dawn club for the internet.
You ever determine how much money they actually stole, we stopped calling one
hundred million dollars in the united states. I really think the answer is he stole as much as you can count?
During the years of investigation, they were no clue
sir, to identifying the masterminds until finally, they got
tip from a source
so you really didn't catch him with whatever
rules we have. You had done
a human being. Walk em, like in the old days,
confidential human source came forward and said I think,
this email address, which traces back to russia is gonna, be the ticket to find him in that prove true because,
The email address was how lucky one two three four five communicated with his criminal syndicate and by
connecting many dots, the fbi.
was eventually able to identify the master mine. As ever. Guinea vulgar chaff,
a raccoon I'd thirty year old, whose
snow address was here in a novel.
a russian resort city on the black sea
photo, show him on his boat with his wife and with his spotted bengal care
in his matching pajamas, the feds, fine,
we had their man
meanwhile, Bayard analyzed his computer server. Where says former justice department official John carlin, they saw that both chow,
had begun searching around for targets outside his criminal activities. We saw them doing things like right before russia was going
vade ukraine. We saw that same network being used to collect information on ukraine, and we saw terms like top secret or department,
defence being used as search terms or query
u S, department of defense, yes or what
agencies was looking into their
queries targeting the fbi and lie they appear, it seems like there were. Look
for information that they can use to then compromise or try to turn
If the ages,
lead you s. National security officials. To conclude the barbershop had become an
set of russian intelligence.
Though you s, investigators had no concrete proof of moscow directing him they would get proof
Another case involving
russian cyber thief alexei milan, who was indeed
in two thousand. Seventeen along
to russian intelligence officers charged with directing him according to the indictment
Milan didn't start working with russian intelligence until after the? U s asked russia for help in IRAN.
Seeing him for identity theft and
their cyber crimes,
a period where we're looking for cooperation from the russians, nano
did they not help. They see.
In him up as an intelligence asset after we asked for help.
so you identify him for them as a brilliant hack.
And then they sign up to work for them. The way they did with barbershop
what you are looking for, with cooperation right.
And then were you able to see
he was working for
intelligence, trying to gather
formation for the state in that
incredible detail in this indictment. This is the first case we were able to show it he's getting direct requests from russian intelligence officers, and
are providing him secret information that
news to evade detection and arrest belong
proceeded to commit one of the most far reaching hacks ever from two thousand forty,
The two thousand sixteen into yahoo one of the world,
busiest internet sites. That was try,
yahoo hack people estimate
five hundred million to a billion email addresses, so the russians have their eyes on half a billion plus people's computers,
and this guy siphoning off money, they still let him be the the crook that he wants to be within, though, also use that same trove of information to target people they might be
stood in for intelligence purposes,
people. He says like business leaders and foreign government officials in order to steal class
fight information orders
for something compromising to blackmail them as documented,
both the ballade and baggage of cases
the only two cases that we know about. If you look at
the most wanted, cybercriminals, it's a coups who of russians? Not you mentioned Putin, the is. Is he aware of all of this? Has he personally sanction this kind,
activity. There is no,
that he is both aware of it and has personally sanctions some of the activities while this is
talker, see this is a government by theft and the thing that matters, the most is that you do
the dawn, wants what the head of the crime family wants, and here the head of the crime family is prudent them rush
government is running a criminal syndicate minutes
that going too far. No, I think
silly today. The russian government is a criminal syndicate, it's a rogue state when it comes to cyber activity and is causing harm to countries, companies and people throughout the world.
when antibiotics were first used in the nineteen forties, they wore
Evolution in medicine before
diseases like pneumonia and tuberculosis were often a death sentence and even an infected scratch could be fatal. Since,
antibiotics have saved hundreds of millions of lives, but now many of these drugs
are becoming ineffective. Scientists say it
bloom of our own. Making we ve
we stand bioethics so freely. Some bacteria have mutated into so called super bugs they become resistant.
to the very drugs designed to kill them. I studied
and by the british government, estimates that by twenty fifty ten
in people worldwide could die each year from antibiotic resistant bacteria. That's more than currently die from cancer
to understand the danger posed by super bogs. We start
story of David reaching in
two thousand and eleven at the age of nineteen david reach
he volunteered to teach orphans in calcutta. India he's worth
to work run alongside these train tracks,
the trains when they would pass by what is really close to it, and
caught my sleeve and threw me in front of it. How far we tracked for probably about fifty meters
and was the pain immediate. My leg was penned between two of the wheels and soon, as I tried to stand up and realise that in a man
it was like hamburger reaches
survived the amputation of his leg and a medical
population home to seattle. Only for his doctor
to discover a microscopic organism that could kill him lead
after said David. I need to tell you something really hard.
You have an infection. We ve never seen before
does in the? U S, hadn't seen much of this: they ve never seen it. They didn't. They didn't even know how to treat it, be infringed
and growing inside reaches leg was caused by bacteria with genetic mutations, the term
into super bogs. Resist
ten nineteen different antibiotics he's doktor, told us
that, in desperation, he had to read
back in time to an end,
I bought it cold calisto. That was discussed
but in the nineteen forties for decades,
It was rarely used because in height
since it can cause irreversible organ damage, richie suffered
neophyte yes, three times what
duty that felt like my organs were disintegrating at just felt, really really strange something I never felt before, like. I was dying from the inside out, but often
six months the calisto helped beat back reaches infection and he looks
To walk again, we went to the neighbourhood where the super bog that nearly killed david reaching was found in two thousand and nine in delhi
india Rahman unlocks meaner ryan is an economist and its senior research scholar at princeton university he's been track,
The rise of super bogs for nearly twenty years,
he says what happened to reach. It was more than just bad luck. It was the reason
Allow me to use of antibiotics. We took out
for granted. We
that we could use them like sugar pills
they were safe and that resistance was just something that body
this watered about that you'd have actually seen real life. You ve called antibiotics a a shared global resource. What what do you mean by that? It's a lot like
The fish in the ocean, if you fish, does less
for everyone else. Every time you use antibiotics, there is less effect.
this, for everyone else, is a front line in the fight against super bugs it's in places like this,
The neo nato intensive care unit, a chechen. There were children's hospital in new delhi, sixty thousand
de in babies are dying every year from progress.
And infections.
boy, and he has it. Has an infection
mom tug judge. You told us the antibiotics she routinely use ten years ago on no longer effective, that's force,
to use calisto the toxic
line antibiotic. Given today,
that reaching
he hasn't infection, and the only antibiotic that is sensitive to his cholesterol is too
Only antibiotics will work and is likely to recover so
Improving the baby's improving this saga,
opening dies, looking handed in there.
By tomorrow, will take him out of the bank. Later, that's good news
this baby, but the world
The organization warns, our arsenal of antibiotics is running out and we could be facing a pause.
To antibiotic era much
we consider modern medicine depends on effective antibiotics. It's not just about new bonds dying of infections in faraway places at modern medical procedures that we take for granted that simply wouldn't be possible. If we
and have access to effective antibiotics everything
We think of whether its cancer chemotherapy transplants, hip replacement,
replacements col
it'll surgery. All of these
require effective antibiotics to perform to understand how quickly bacteria become resistant to even the most powerful drugs
visited harvard university biologist, Michael Bain. He showed
an experiment. First, on in the lab of lucca shawnee onward,
looks like a miniature football field vein
was a solution containing see pro fluxes in or Cyprus, a broad spectrum, antibiotic
this has no says. I went to my attic this one. This one has just over what the bacteria are able to survive and should kill them. It should kill them the next ten times
Much ok,
times as much. This sent his own of the table contains a thousand times more see pro then
Syria should be able to survive. Then Bain drops
whole lie bacteria at both ends of the table.
There are about a million bacteria and their little drop in that little job.
so the bacteria started both sides and they race to the centre in just a few
who days some of the e coli bacteria figure
How to resist this approach and severe
I've in what should be a deadly environment. Tat. If you look,
very closely right here, they're starting to grow into the centre, which is this by
father strongest antibiotic are the strongest stronger than you would have to give to a patient exactly and yet did
beginning to evolve to mutate.
This is evolution happening
one of these little things that you see on it? That's a mutant, that's a mute
That's developed resistance and started to grow. That means that
Eco lie has already out witted sit in
this. Each time we take an antibiotic bacteria
develop the same kind of resistance in our bodies, which is widely
overuse of the drugs is so dangerous. Americans are
the highest consumers of antibiotics in the world, more than two hundred
fifty million prescriptions are written every here, one third,
unnecessary according to
centers for disease control and in india and many other developing countries.
bionic use is on the rise and you can often violated
eggs over the counter, no peace
friction replied. The way you have returned in delhi would buy their medicine. Exacting. All you need here is the money.
Who pay the bill.
awaited them sit for just a few dollars. We bought superfluous citizen and a moxa still in both
equally important antibiotics used to treat infect
it's all over the world and then
without even discussing symptoms. We asked
bottle of Calisto collected the same powerful antibiotic that saved
richie and the babies in the entire.
You ve care unit is clear.
The last line. Antibiotic, absolutely humans, aren't the only ones being dosed with colistin
roman on luxembourg ryan, took us to this poultry farms outside delhi watch where they mix their feed with four different
types of antibiotics, including colistin
I buy audience make animals grow faster and stave off infection. It's a practice.
Pioneered in the united states, where over a dozen,
different. Antibiotics are approved for use in farm animals. So what is the problem
with giving these chickens antibiotics, you look around
The chicks are eating constantly their antibiotics in
feed, which means that their bacteria are being exposed to the antibiotics on
and soon bases and constantly selecting for resistance? What does that mean selecting for resistance? It means that the bacteria in those chicken are being exposed to antibiotics, which kill all the bacteria that are sensitive to the
Politics, leaving behind only resistant bacteria which don't respond to antibiotics, means these chick
a being accidently bred to create. So
the banks, because they being antibiotics every single day of their lives.
Once a super bug, evolves in animals. It can spread to hear
and through soil, water and handling or eating of meat. That's exactly what happened in china when pigs that were fed calisto developed a genetic mute.
She called m c r one it makes bacteria
distant to Calisto, the findings were first published in two thousand and fifteen
just three years later m c.
one was found in more than forty countries into
thousand an and seventeen sixty nine year old, Jeff, o regan became one of the first.
Regions to be found with m c o one here
it Massachusetts, general hospital, delirious and with a fever.
Hundred and six, so they discovered that you'd been in
did with a bacteria carrying
Jeanne, m c outline
I became like
person at the hospital.
strange within a day or two about a lot of different doctors were coming in. To visit me asking me a lot of questions. What were they asking you? They were asking me where
then
in the last six months. What my travel, this
the thing about my life microbiology.
And infectious disease doktor Sarah turbid was worried
section could spread, so she put a reg
in isolation had you
seen empty. I want before we had that this was the first one that our lab had isolated empty. I one was first voted in pigs,
China, how does it end up in Jeff
The great question is now completely clear how it ended up in its entirely possible that he picked this up during his
above all, I know he's been to the caribbean and answer. One has been reported in the caribbean, and so it's possible that
he was there. He ate something that may be eleven while cook to or effective.
Then and it just colonized, his gastro intestinal tract dissenters for disease control is now tracking embassy are one and told us they have
and isolated cases in nineteen states? The superbowl
still in o regan system and with culture,
and now no longer an option, he's rely
on the one antibiotic lift that can fight it, and if that bacteria,
Yeah became resistant to that one antibiotic that still works. What would happen then
now. That's my last line of defence. She wouldn't survive without,
I've been told that some people might have
this and think, while the best way to put
it myself is just too not travel to india, not travel to other
in countries that are resisting back
that had developed in the united states itself that your susceptible to you know this
a global problem. It doesnt stay confined to any single place as an end.
the can. I have any impact on this problem
use an individual can have a huge impact by four
strictly missing that taking antibiotics in approach
It is going too far
harm than good. So even if
didn't care about resistance for other people. We might consider the fact that the antibiotic
more work for you, when you really need them
on this easter sunday. We thought it would be fitting to take you on a journey to easter island. It's one of them
was remote. Inhabited islands in the world foreign to the pacific,
me two hundred miles due west from the coast of chile. Dutch explore
I gave it its name after they spotted it on Easter sunday in seventeen, twenty two- what they found his fascinated and confounded the world ever since
giant stone statues the tower over the island's landscape, they're called more. I,
as we learned our first morning on easter island, there's, nothing quite like them anywhere else in the world.
When dawn breaks on easter island. It is the more I that first feel the sun these
If dean, malloy at a site called hunger, Ricky or perhaps the most famous carved out of all
and a rock their placed on a stone
form called and all the time
It is nearly thirty feet. They stand strange
silent sentinels faces,
away from the sea. Watching,
where the land and its people
two thousand more. I can be found scattered across this island, which is it
the size of washington d c.
Many more mo. I remain buried underground to the disease
Many of those who built them. These are more than statues made of stone. They
immortal branches of an ancient family tree, the more I represent
the non system
believing ancestor. That goes beyond this life, but is helping us.
Guiding. You is more like a distinct individual,
ancestor, or can it also be
family line of that ancestor, both bedroom,
edmunds power, is the long time mayor of the only town on easter island. So when you
the more I today
not just something from the pass, it's something that is alive, that has power right now, yes,
We indigenous people from these island, believing that the indigenous people here,
leave their ancestors and family lines are represented by specific groups of milan, mayor
this power. What says his or at a site called too high.
Genealogy traces to all the way to that site? Eighty five times it goes back that far yes, more than a thousand year,
That is entirely possible. No one knows
for sure the exact date the first people came here, but its belief
to have been somewhere around eight hundred to twelve hundred years ago. Argue
logical evidence indicates they sailed from an unknown island in polynesia. Dangerous journey
more than a thousand miles of open ocean those first settlers brought with
their tradition of curbing, but they made
much smaller statues. They also brought about
if, in a mystical force, called mona. How do you
scribe Mona. What is mona,
is. This is beyond description.
to describe it, though today's languages, knowledge knowledge but be interpreted as wisdom
an energy that deep sue strength to them,
I still have Mona through
has so it has like there alive, absolutely
According to legend, when important islanders died, there monarch
out of their bodies into the mole, lie the mind.
here, the monies here
it's a horrid concept for my
mine to imagine for human, like you guys from the city, don't understand these things, because you
about working like
This applies animals.
you believe in mona, say it's not just in the more I it can be found in every
here they constantly crash ashore,
he soil and
the green grass, the blankets, the island. These objects
in the middle of what looks like a barren landscape, they speak to you.
draw you in they they make. You want to do no more. I think that that's that
our of them and when you see how tall they really are joined
until there is a useful, a professor of archaeology she's been coming here for
Nearly forty years, working with
local researchers and artists excavating
cataloguing the statues trying to
stand the mysteries and what she calls the
magic of the more wine, their tight lipped. These statutes,
they don't give up. That is if it really is, and they don't give them up to outsiders easily.
To learn them a wise secrets. You have to start where nearly all of them were made around the van
a dormant volcano? This
the ancient kauri have run a roku. There are some.
or hundred mo. I hear more than
any other spot on the island, the largest
on never raised up right is almost seventy feet, long and ways at least two hundred and fifty tonnes is heavier
passenger jet, one based on
excavations, joanne until burg and other archaeologists have done an analysis of soil samples and objects found around the statues than children believes
height of no construction was around thirteen hundred today
fourteen hundred, though my wife
it, continues to be curbed until or just after the first contact with europeans
seventeen twenty two I mean. Is it now
I swear with
carbon dating or other scientific need to know exactly. When suddenly I mean I can't beat stone this stone in that manner, when the first org
logical survey was done on the island and nineteen fourteen, all the more I accept those in the quarry were found lying on the ground. There several plausible theories: how they got there
certain statues may have simply fallen from neglect. Others were not
dover and earthquakes, and so
were intentionally toppled during fighting between competing family groups. Today,
Some are: why are only partially visible just there
faces, stick out of the ground, the arrested, thereby
these are buried under sediment. That's naturally built up over the centuries, and this one is at least
only about one third above ground, two thirds of those arusha below grass? Yes, at first
and the more I all look alike, but then too,
says no to are the same. How are they never
their different in the line of their mouth, are different in, of course, their size and shape their different,
expressions, whether their head is tilted up or lowered slightly or to the side, this tumor wire, their unfinished their unfinished visitors here
have long debated how them, though I were made given the stone.
its conditions on the island when the statues were being carved until birds,
the answer is all around
thousands of stone, carving tools scattered throughout the quarry. This was a handheld instrument that was used an issue hold it. You can be actually feel where people may have put their fingers, which was actually used to read out the sculpture you can secure, looks or that him. Now you can
That's me, and then I was literally just laying ten feet away, and you put it in your hand, and you can feel where the other person's hand was you this. When you talk about
mystery and magic. That's it right there, but
jack alone couldn't move them alive from the quarry two sites on the coast in some cases more than
eight miles away that took muscle
and ingenuity. Then Schoenberg has
the theory. She believes that no, I will place horizontally on. Sleds drag,
overlong island. Legit says the statues walked in some archaeologists
has did that areas will moving them upright
carefully wobbling them back and forth. You may have
heard and out of this world theory about space aliens making in moving them. Oh, I may sound
dick iulus, but it still believe
if by many visitors today, you must have people asking you about extra
cereals yielding yes, I do so. I am- and I just have to ask any possibility that
I don't believe it, but now I don't believe it
easter island was annexed by chile in eighteen. Eighty, eight half of the eight thousand
people who now leave here or chilean immigrants, the other,
for modern descendants of those original polynesian settlers
themselves and the island rapa nui,
in two thousand and seventeen chile finally gave them control of the national park for the more I and other important archaeological sites are located. The park covers more than
forty percent of the island,
rapa nui, was formed out of volcanic rock starting some three million years ago. There are now three
norman volcanoes that dominate the landscape. This one is called the renault cow. No one knows
exactly how many archaeological sites there on the island, but this please
like a living museum concept,
the battered by the sun, the wind and rain
Those three elements are over time, destroying the malign statues may look as though there solid stone, but there actually quite porous
Joanne anne bird showed us a small piece of the soft volcanic rock called tough that the
why are made from tough
special qualities that where it can be carved, it can be polished quite easily needs good, first sculpting, because if it's with a harder stone is able to be chipped away, credit correct
material which make made these statues possible
a long term makes them more, very vulnerable, exactly
rainwater and airborne seeds get into the pores of tough gradually breaking it apart. The way
widows, the stolen away overtime and further damage
just done by birds and a type of algae called liken
some, oh, I or in worse condition than others. Take a look at this one cold took a tory. This photo
office from nineteen fifty five or when it was unearthed. This is how
who could tory looks today the down
ex very easily. His is just not stable, essentially under dissolved yeah. They are. I mean
they are standing out in the rain, their melting like sugar. You like sugar, gives in exactly it's that dramatic.
I nineties, with help from the japanese government
Do you know I tonker ricky, which had fallen or been toppled over were reconstructed along with us,
and platform. They now stand on.
The? U n is declared easter island, a world heritage site and efforts to slow the disintegration of the statues with a chemical sealant had been under way for decades, but so far
Only about twenty more I have been treated the process.
Expensive,
the island doesn't have its also.
A permanent solution. The sealant
I delays the inevitable one day.
These more I will likely disappear. Is there a plan
a conservation plan and environmental plan for long term in the future, no not at all
mayor Pedro Edmunds power? What is frustrated theirs alone?
of consensus among the rapid neue about how to preserve the mau I and the eyes
infrastructure is under pressure from all
horace. You wanna come see the statues. The few decades ago, there were only two incoming flights a week. Now there are two almost every day cruise ships also make regular calls just long enough
for passengers to get off the boat grab, some souvenirs and snap, a few selfies in all hundred
twenty thousand tourist visited last year. That's too much if
Tourism continues to grow. Is that sustainable here, not least that sustainable christian
renault potter roddy is a historian who earns his living training, tore guys do
concerns about the impact of tourism. So in material terms,
The community has never been better.
general it's much less friendly. It was some time ago,
He says the more the island caters to tourists, the less like whom it is for the people whose ancestors built the milan. Today we are kind of forced to see the statues from far away. Just like a tourist come here, people my generation right. We could go there and touch the statues and be part of the statute and hug this statue. How can I explain to my side
today of my son cannot do that, despite no longer being able to touch them. He still further.
The same sense of wonder, he's always experienced when
the more? I have been here, probably thousands thousand times here now it still awesome. If something that you, you still feel all when you're here, even the christian roots,
Parker roddy supports the efforts to preserve the more I but believes it will take more than mona and money
He has his own somewhat radical ideas on how to ensure the more I keep standing. The only way,
keep them alive is to keep alive the art of making and moving
that you said you would like to see the people revenue
making new. No, I that's right because these will disappear when they. So if the art of
giving them is still alive. We will never lose the statues this path.
week as christians, began wholly weak and Jews approach,
pass over the world
horrified as fired.
The stated the cathedral of no trodden in paris by
we examined as candles were lit. It saviours an easter vigils
plans were under way to rebuild notre dawn.
Here in the united states. Inspired by that commitment, donors pledged
and to rebuild three per day
We black churches torched by us
as in louisiana,
a reminder of the fragility of structures- and
perseverance of faith, happy
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