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If anything has got a chance of solving the world's problems in science and technology, and every breakthrough was the result of some body during the breaking through I'm David pope. This is unsung science, the untold creation stories behind the most mine blowing advances in science and tariff regime, goodbye. Cbs news in Simon sister, you can two unsung science. Wherever you get your, I guess this is the most destruction fire season on record in california, governor jerry brown declared a state of emergency this past week as raging fires with my fears, santa Anna wins enveloped
angeles in ways people have never seen before and as you'll hear california governor criticizes, president from with writers passion for rejecting the science of climate change that he says is the car. I dont think president trump has a fear of the lord, the fear of the wrath of god This measure by relaxing of armies chosen one of the most dangerous occupations in the world running latin mayor putin to be the next president. Russia has been arrested and attacked, but he still it, in crowds of russians of all over the country, wire still alive. This is a favorite, quick question of my wife
Is it in your mind worth your life? I think I'm ready to sacrifice everything. This is the seventh year of the hundred dollars although it has been described as one of the greatest actors and never to have been nominated for oscar, but always why he's been in more than a hundred de movies and tv shows, but still agonized. Is over each character. He plays and is still plagued by self consciousness about how he looks. It's not easy. Anderson easy to know that you're, an ugly man and business like I'm in I'm,
eve? Croft, I'm leslie star, I'm scared, pelee, I'm anderson cooper, I'm bill whittaker. Those stories tonight on sixty minutes, our cause is divided between red states and blue states, a division that has intensified since the election of president donald trump and some of the blue states. intensifying their resistance to the president, most prominently. California, the country's bluest and most populous state led by governor jerry brown. Brown has been governor of california twice the first time. Forty years ago, He criticizes the president on taxes. California is suing the trump administration over health care, immigration and air quality, but nothing this is more righteous passion and jerry brown. Then the issue of climate change. He castigates the press
for denying the science and aggravating a problem. Governor brown says is causing california to burn This is the most destructive fires season on record in California. Governors Mary Brown declared a state of emergency this past week as raging wildfires. With my fears. And anna wins and fuelled by bone dry brush leave ways to tens of thousands, the lakers in southern california, the smoke plume that crowded, the los angeles area could be seen from space. The fires that red California theme wine country in october, were the deadliest state has ever seen. Neighborhoods were incinerated, dozens of people were killed The fire season used to be a few months in the summer. Now year long fires, unpressed We never seen anything like it. Scientists are telling us. This is the kind of stuff that's gonna happen.
and we got to deal with it. It's going to happen. He says please, site that predicts, extremes, swings in weather patterns. This year, southern California experienced record heat in october and november. Creating the perfect conditions for this nature is not a political game. Nature is the is the ground on which we stand is the air which we breathe and the truth of the cases that there's too much carbon being emitted? That heat trapping gases are Drawing up the planet is warming and I'll break loose. President trumpet has famously called climate change a hoax when he called out of the paris climate accord. He said this wasn't a good deal for the united states, that
preposterous idea that even a shred of truth in that statement, so I'd say to mister trump. Take a deeper look. Now is not the time to undo what every country in the world is committed to. Are you fearful, oh yeah, usa? Anyone who isn't is not not looking at the facts. I don't think president trump has a fear of the lord, the fear of the wrath of god, which leads one to more humility, and this is such a reckless regard for the truth and for the existential corinth consequences they can be unleashed. You're gonna tell me if he sounds like a jesuit seminary in its because he was one years ago now he's a climate missionary traveling the world preaching. The gospel of renewable energy. At the vatican in china, We're president children being discussed, collaborating with california on cutting greenhouse gases round, went to the global climate.
didn't bond germany last month. He former new york mare, Michael Bloomberg, led a delegation of me. And legislators representing forty percent of the u s economy, the official. U S, delegation sent by the white house showed up to promote call brown went to tell the world resident trump doesn't speak for all Africans, california, is not waiting for trump. We're not For denying these already weaning, california, off fossil fuels. To give us a glimpse of the future, brown took us to the sixty two acres solar farm near Sacramento, on the site of a decommission nuclear, power plant, you said that you want to have fifty percent of california electricity generated by road.
mobile sources. By choosing what is certain that I didn't think you're gonna beat them. Yes, no question about with the federal government standing down on climate action. California is blazing its own trail, What can you, the governor of one state in the united states, do to fill in the void as governor of California? We have a cap and trade system which is a very efficient way to reducing greenhouse, gases. We have a zero mission vehicle mandate. We have efficient these standards for our buildings for appliances, so California, showing that deal with climate is good for the economy, not bad. California who me under brown, has done from the ninth largest economy in the world to the sixth, it's now bigger than france, with a budget surplus of more than seven billion down. When you first came into office this time, California,
face more than fifty billion dollars in debt and deficit there. were headlines that California was going to be the first failed state. The fact is, we cut the budget. We re taxes and the economy roared back. You cut the budget. You raise taxes. These days, that sounds like a prescription for political suicide. You gotta pay some taxes, you have to invest. We need to invest in the technologies of tomorrow, or somebody else will and that somebody is china, india and other countries, you're not going to poor mouth yourself to the future, and roads costs money as called taxes and r and d costs. Money colleges costs money, schools, childcare all of that were a rich country and we can handle it, but California's economic success has come at a cost. Housing prices are through the roof
so are the ranks of the home water of the country's homeless, live in California. You're, not paradise. We have lots of problems. California is the engine of American I'd like to remind my fellow citizens when you look askance at the state you're looking at one of the not the only one but a major contributor to the well being of the whole country, California, is vital the national economy. That's why brown is so angered by the new tax overhaul legislation being pushed by house and senate republicans. They call it a tax cut, round, says by eliminating deductions for state and local taxes, it would actually increase the tax burden on high tax blue states like california, he and other blue state governors say the bill is retaliation against trumps opponents round, called it evil and divisive
think the republicans are intentionally trying to punish. The blue states it didn't vote for president trump. I know this. The volumes have is called just like they believe, there's no climate problem. They believe that cutting corporate taxes without any money to pay for leaving its magic. It'll, make everything wonderful, very responsible, very dangerous, but California republican, say grounds. Tax hikes. Aren't your response. From america, jerry browns, California seems far on the frontier california, doesn't look like the rest of the country, minor he's now are the majority of the population. It doesn't act like the rest of the country,
they voted to legalise recreational marijuana, starting in january, will soon offer a third gender choice on drivers licences, Hillary Clinton, trout, resident trump. Here by more than four million votes, it seems that california is way. out of step with the rest of the country, but I'd, say we're more in tune with the future. Then then For the rest, the cousin, easy you think the country is going to look more like california in the future. I think I will because I was asking myself: why did Democrats in ohio and wisconsin and michigan pennsylvania why they vote for trump that a lot of them did well enough to give them those states electoral votes? Your answer, there's more confidence here, there's less fear. People are looking at the future. They're, not scared, they're, not going inward, they're not scapegoating goody, blaming mexican immigrants, not blame
the stranger just the opposite. It's a place that is alive. It's dynamic, it's a culture that is on the move, not the pulling up the drawbridge out of fear and economic insecurity. Jerry brown is california, is thirty, ninth and oldest governor when he first held the office in nice. Seventy five, he had a full head of hair. His father, pat brown, have been governor eight years before When you look at all the stayed portraits of his predecessors in the capital rotunda, it's obvious, Harry brown is not like the others. Not many politicians spent four years in the seminary. As brown did in the nineteen fifties or dated a rock star, he would with linda run, stand in the seventies. I've seen a lot of different things. I work of mother teresa. I've spent six months doing then meditation income or courage appear in IRAN for present three times.
I've done very incompatible things. People who, like you say that that's evidence of intellectual flexibility, people who don't like you say that as evidence of your being slightly. I like it. If that's that psycho babble, whatever you call it his far out politics First time in office earned him the moniker governor moonbeam. We found him to me down to earth he's california casual at the office. His dog kaluza has the. of the place. Are you better at being governor this time? It's a different experience. Seventy nine is not thirty six different ballgame in every way. So I say I know more. I understand more what have you learned about yourself in those intervening years, there's something you lose with age year, physical prowess, by mental acuity, and it is life experience.
Is very important saw I enjoy the job a lot more come on. You know that you, California, it's hard to see why, Liberal policies make him a punching bag for conservative and he's not you. Firstly, we love by liberals he's a political maverick he's rolling back state union pensions. He refuses to curb oil production until there's a viable alternative, a majority of californians like what he is doing, but he's been doing this for almost fifty years, and he says it's I am to hang up his political spurs when he leaves office in january, two thousand and nineteen. He swears he's going to leave elective politics behind. I think you're going to miss this. No, I don't think so. Should I be eighty, and what are we gonna do with my life? That's that's my question. What do I do spend time when my wife a go. It alone actual or nearly all of his adult life. Jim.
Brown now has a partner to share his life, an gust rap on a former executive at the gap married in two thousand five alone. Their plan is to retire here to this ranch golden valley, north of sacramento, their building. Their dream ranch house with solar panels. Of course, it's off the grid and way off the beaten path. echo- is a governor and kaluza showed us around here ready for the beautiful he told us he's going out at his peak. Stepping away from pray on land, his great grandfather settled in the eighteen sixties. He said he intends to be a modest rancher he's going to unplug end unwind
do you think this man sitting next to you is going to be content. Puttering around pleasure. I didn't, he sure, doesn't potter Now, as he said, running on modest wretch, we both wonder about because we've been running one hundred miles an hour and now we're going to be in a place. That's almost the opposite of that and we'll see we're on the frontiers are and you're going to like the well, I like being on the frontier, that's for sure A lot has been said about russia, meddling and our two thousand sixteen presidential campaign, but the right We are already buzzing about their presidential election next march because unexpectedly vladimir has a genuine challenger. A handsome Forty one euro lawyer, alexey novotny, who was
in one of the most dangerous occupations in the world. Running and the man who controls the kremlin, the election, process in russia is tightly managed by the government, but nevada been drawing big crowds to his protest and rallies all over the country. He laces into putin with no holds barred that what Mr Putin is a thief and the head of the entire corrupt system. This is one rate man, not only because he has taken on the all powerful vladimir putin head on. But because he's holding rallies, many of them without official permits, which has had its consequences, one around after another. During my campaign. I spent every peace they in the jail. So now I'm kind of use to it's, nothing you from its became an ocean of my life. You got out of prison just a couple of days ago. Right you held a,
allie, right away in your ear. Goading them begging them to arrest you again of these people who are trying to steal my country and I'm still We disagree with it, I'm not going to be in our kind of speechless tarzan right now, I'm not going to keep silent. Not allowed to where I'm not allowed to run, and they put enormous pressure of our on our headquarter and are now volunteers. My chief of campaign get out of jail. Just yesterday, So all these facts show us that he's really afraid not of me by these people, were standing behind me, who have now one hundred seventy thousand volunteers, you, Mr Putin, remains highly popular. It's all, but I forgot
inclusion that he'll be re elected and yet the kremlin is doing everything it can to make it difficult for novelty to gain traction. For instance. The government says he can't be on the ballot because he was found guilty of embezzlement and what nevada, in this was a trumped up charge, aunties barred from national television, but he's mean to get around that by reaching an ever widening audience on social media channels and youtube. We're here millions of followers and says he's raised almost four million dollars from ordinary russians. What do you think the biggest issue is for most people here and marcia poverty in the world
well, let's see huge in russia even compare to the united states, the european country, no opportunities at all, no future for the people. Putin is stealing their future and Mr Putin puts his relatives. This closest france, his colleagues from the kgb of the chiefs, these component and that's why they controlling the whole economy. Novotny began his public life ten years ago in a shrewd way He bought small shares of state owned companies as a your holder, he was able to get his hands on internal financial documents, investigated evidence of misconduct and posted at all. On a blog did these documents that you got
Of corruption absolutely at night work as the whistle blower and I'm not afraid to announce the names he says he found that the kremlin's inner circle was accumulating vast amounts of wealth and publish pictures of multiple homes and yachts. Moved on to airing documentaries on you tube with video of the officials lavish lifestyle. How did you get off Now we have our air force. We who have just to use drawn? You sent drowns? Yes, we do a lot of work with the jaws because from for us its best, to show this way of life when ya, but this footage of the yards of these palaces of thrill estates and you'll. You can show documents this guy, have it relatively modest? Salary but look at this house his most watch documentary with over two
five million views focused on prime minister, Dmitri Medvedev and his estates. Novotny says all five of them the video inflamed so much outrage that in march, of thousands of russians took to the streets university called for a second round of protests. Three months later he was arrested before he even left his apartment building, but his porters came out in droves all across the country and like novotny, close to us seventeen hundred were arrested. These were the first protest of this magnitude in russia. In six years back, there in two thousand and eleven roughly sixty thousand went to the streets in a burst of the entire putin descent, that's where nevada. debuted in Moscow as an opposition leader as we will
watching in the united states. I think there was the impression that public opinion was going to force change here. It looked that way on tv, but that is not what happened MR porch, and realized that she has it's not affordable for his system to give people more democracy. That's why in the twentieth twelfth he completely changed his strategy and start to arrest people's taller start to fabricate criminal cases, look and their starved of that twenty eleven I was a respectful lawyer at the end of the twentyth twelve was several times convict Britain he's seen as the last man standing since most of the other, opposition leaders either fled the country or were found dead under mysterious circumstances wire still alive, of his favorite quick question of my wife, I dont know
maybe they amidst the good timing for it when was less famous. Do you feel that your visibility with so many people, who you are that that's protecting you actually I'm trying not to thinking about it a lot, because if you start to think what kind of freedom I have you cannot do anything while the regent nevada. These platform includes more spending on education and health, restoring a free press and taxing the oligarchy causing the gun he stuff in the way cheese, assumed to be a russian liberal, but there were the time when he marched with nationalists, some of them fascists? Something he's tried to downplayed? Lately, you
attended nationalist what we would call right wing rallies. I believe in support of ethnic purity, russian ethnic purity. Have you supported that of course not. I was part of these royalists because I support the freedom of rallies, because I support freedom for meetings and their supporters of yours. Parliament follow a little them supports me and they are recognised as the leader when you growing up. He came from a committed communist fan. de in a small town south of moscow. What was your childhood like forty one years old, it means that text I'm a guy from the soviet union. I was a young pioneer. I had my red tie. My father was a military and I was very proud that my father
guarding mother, russia from evil americans with their bombs and missiles. At my biggest member, the time as a child standing in life standing in line, maybe sometimes four hours to just by milk. He was close to his brother. leg, seven years younger. So it was painful for him when three years ago, the government to get him to stop his activism. He believes convicted him and all of embezzlement, A ruling. The european court of human rights are called arbitrary and unfair. To make matters worse, he got a suspended sentence, but oh leg is still behind bars
he's still in prison and he spent two years and their solitary confinement reaches actually in russian condition. Is torturing and your youngest is in jail to get you to get you to stop. Yes, absolutely, but he hasn't start even now, he's been physically attacked, while campaigning in Siberia. He was splashed in the face, with green die. It was painful, but could hurt it charged, but he handled with humor saying he was shreck. His followers died there own faces green and posted photos to instagram and twit. In solidarity. Then he was lashed again second, I was much more painful. There was ass it as I to stand at my doktor and the hospital set well alexey. You should be prepared that you it'll be blind for one eye, and so
even start to think about what kind of you know. I would be such kind of pirates. With a patch patch, the kremlin did allow him to travel to spain for specialized surgery, but a me italy after the treatment he returned to moscow and went right out campaign again lately he's been content rating on rural areas holding rallies far from the big cities in places like siberia and the euro, traveling every weekend to span Friday saturday and sunday in the region have, if rallies stay there? We went with him to the mid sized industrial city of available for outside Moscow, starting with a train right, Mr Putin, who never ever mentioned, your name, besides you but never your name. What do you make it I have no idea why they don't know. Maybe it's a kind of something superstition
for them. Like you know, the cannot remain the animal day, because, if your name, what's in the night, tat will come, and you too you or something like this, and they have a lot of names in the euphemism. From your like these gentlemen, this guy this convict and these this, this convent but they are thinking about me and even if they are afraid of me afraid oversights. That's is much more important for us. mentioned in my name. It was snowing and dark out when we got to a wooded lot on the edge of town were a big crowd, mostly young russians, was waiting for me. No one thinks he as much of a chance of beating Putin and election, but still him. The balmy says because of his ability to draw crowds at rallies and into
still he perseveres. Knowing what he's doing is dangerous supporters have been roughed up by police and pro kremlin activists who novalis com but is it in your mind, worth your life, because there is a big I get on your question, I'm trying to not to think about it because look, I think, I'm ready to sacrifice think for my job for the people who surrounding it, I'm not let them down and I'm trying to flax about it all the time, donald sutherland
and called one of the greatest actors never to be nominated for an oscar he's appeared in more than a hundred, and fifty films and tv shows mash klute, ordinary people, the hunger games, just a name you, you may recognize his name. You definitely seen his face, but you probably don't know much about done sutherland, the man and eighty two he's still one of the horses working actors around still agonising over each character. He plays and still plagued by self consciousness about how he looks he's, never forgotten what happened after his very first film audition more than fifty years ago, when the writer director and producer of the movie he tried out for called him on the phone. The writer says you did such a terrific job, then the produces, and we thought you were really wonderful and we all the call you together to explain why we were casting you. No, no, no, I mean we have to
The reason why we're not casting you is because we ve We started this fella as a kind of a guy next door soda and to be absolutely true, We don't think you will oblige. You ever live next door to anybody, Let us be wary of my life at least who is it. dull sutherland, may not look like the guy next door. Investigator. I'd like to ask a question that has been started from carving out one of the longest, lasting and most unconventional careers in the film business he's play. leading men. The whole life's nothing, but an accident is what happens to you. In all manner of misfits he's turned up in army field, hospitals, scratch. My nose learn a little harder. English country estates note of have parted with humanity Anyone as road and tony's corners of oppermint.
and this is the Don't do that here of the hunger guy he's had a particular soft spot for bad guys. like these, and over the years he's played a lot of them. Don't lie you promised, A lot of the roles you take on, though, are not always sympathetic, they're not sympathetic to you but they're, sympathetic to me. They are but yeah something They don't feel very good about what do pyromaniac mean by back draft. eyes light up like a pyromaniac right. Now. Sorry I mean he was so excited. You know the whole place going like hill, here, was on fire might and everything I was dead to prepare for these rules. he spent months immersing himself in the script poring over the ports as he conjures the characters to life
try to find something in the role that I don't find it it finds me I mean I will read it, then suddenly it starts churning around inside me and then it gets violent and then it loving and then the its aid cynics ordinary things, it gets more more and more exciting. It's delicious it is when we first sutherland. He was shooting a scene in italy for an upcoming ethics, serious call trust about oil, magnet, japan, eddie. When he's filming sutherland says he needs more than anything else. An intimate crew it of relationship with his director. He describes his experience working with. Jerry italian director federico Fellini as a love affair Do you see the romantic terms because it is There's that intimacy, yeah, sometimes is rejected, and sometimes it's opted into breached and when the film was done,
the affair is ever gonna. Give a cigarette after no, but you have regret, a slight sadness about sutherland. It may be because his childhood in canada was an easy. He survived, polio was a toddler and spent all of fourth grade at home with rheumatic fever. He was an awkward kid tall with big ears at school. They called him dumbo when he was sixteen here question for his mother and I went to her and I said mother- am I good. Looking And my mother looked at me, I meant Your face has character Donald and I went
hid in my room for at least a day did what she say stayed with you. not really just just four sixty five sixty six year it's not easy anderson. It's not easy. to know that you're in Ugly man and businesslike- I mean, do you think of you if, as an ugly man unattractive gentler way of putting it. His insecurities didn't stop him from acting in plays in college. In the early nineties, six is, he started picking up work in television and be movies like castle of the living dead. He'd be forgiven
if you ve never heard of that sutherland playing the part of a soldier and which, in the same seen you all right, the early years were a struggle sutherland had twins, including his son keefer, then three more children with his wife Forty five years, the actress francine reset his big break came in the dirty. Does it and it has and entirely by chance sutherland, only had a bit port until the lead actors told the films director bob all ridge. He didn't want to appear in this scene, then bravo verge, looked at him like then he went you with a big ears. You do I don't think he knew my name, but I know it changed where you from madison setting Missouri sir heard of it hollywood producer saw
star power. In that brief role, He was offered. A lean in mash then played a hippie tank commander in kelly's here earning a place in hollywood as an oddball icon, at least seventies counterculture go more now got up webs little faith on maybe, as his career took off, something happened that sutherland still doesn't quite believe the guy. He grew up thinking he was ugly became a sec, symbol. Tell me about frank, la garenne in nineteen. Seventy one he played the enigmatic private detective in the hit klute under break up alongside, has then girlfriend Jane fonda. Would you mind not doing that? fonda won an oscar for her performance sutherland was nominated. We were surprised and sutherland never watched klute all the way through, and he said,
He rarely sees any of the movies he stars in his main interest. He says, is his performance. How the film ends up being put together is out of his hands. One of the nice things about the job. I'm doing is a firm out of control over the finnish product new do yeah and that's not something as an actor. You have much control over. Excuse me use the wrong word you use, word much the operative word is any. You have no control over numb, none symptom performance that may be a polite way of saying. If the film is clunker, don't blame sutherland riddick about a television show your in said. The question is not just what class actor like sutherland is doing and trash like this, but whether other than is actually in a different show entirely. What position thirty sexy on all excuse me: that's not trash that really really good show, oh
funded extravagant accusation to make you ended up watching her. Did you watch it But Didn't you didn't see it so, how do you know is good because I was in it I got me: good natured islands right I mean I could because doing in new. It was good. Do you knew from the response of people on the street? we were speaking was suddenly. At his lakeside estate in southern quebec, steals time between film shoots in an old pump house by the water I have vertigo and I'm climbing that god damn thing you set up a makeshift screening room to watch some of his most iconic performances, or she quickly became clear to us that decades, after he's finished a film, the character he's created stage
them in this scene from the nineteen. Seventy three thriller, don't look now his character discovers his daughters body in upon This is gonna, be a hard day for me. So even now, if the character comes back to the character still there. It's interesting, I never thought of that then who had their little niece somewhere in my person or in my soul or something linen says: he's never given much thought to the trajectory of his own career or viewed it as a climb to start a lot of actors. They wanna take unrolls where their cut their vertically organised. What does that mean? It's actors who say: okay, I've done this is a correct character play to do this. To me
is it going to have a career ladder. Yeah I've done a dramatic role. Now, I'm going to do a comedic and romantic lead and mine is like a great big wooden platter of fruit and pasta and chicken, salad and the soup and a banana. You know it's a whole bunch of different thing, might not like everything on the thing, but you can go and grab something and pilot and he didn't like it that may explain in port wine Although has never gotten an oscar nomination that and his style of acting, which is so and restrained never showing the night. he navy, film, ordinary people, one best picture best director and an oscar for the screenplay, because I dont know if Love you anymore. and I don't know what I'm going to do without that, cannot give me the cat didn't give I want to,
a good picture of the two of your cat, mary tyler, more was nominated for an oscar for her role and ordinary people. Until I get a picture of Timothy hung one one fact: you're a goddamn chair, a southerly was ignored. now, at a stage in life when peers, half his age are slowing down, sutherland seems to be speeding up after shooting one week in ITALY. We again on a sound stage, in los angeles where he was in scenes for an upcoming science fiction movie the next month, he has a new film coming out the leisure seeker and make your cup of coffee in which he plays an aging. Sir, alongside Helen Mirren who embarks on a road trip, as he grapples with old age and dimension, was happening. Where are we even maybe the nicest man I've ever played,
who was losing his mind and totally and utterly in love with his wife is very bitter. What about things? Slipping away about love and aging? Did a resident What do you think Anderson? Look at me? sure. You know all of it every bit of it. Very well no until January donald sutherland will get an oscar nomination for the leisure seeker, but last month he finally got little golden statute, which has alluded. So long alike, I'm achievement of war presented to him by his hunger games coaster. jennifer lawrence the ceremony in hollywood, his family, almost all of whom are in the film business, was there too you're him on. I finally found peace in the words of the great been
mental bill scheme? it is also known as jack benny. When he said As I say to you now, I don't deserve this but I have arthritis and I we deserve that either the donald sutherland says he left this interview with an other sense of failure. No, I don't do this as a failure. I view me as a failure in it go to sixty minutes, overtime, dot, com or sponsored by bread and our thirteen, fifty seasons of sixty minutes this week. A look back the second sunday of December nineteen. Eighty six, that's when MIKE wallace first interviewed Oprah winfrey her look
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