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operated in the united states during the last decade of the cold war, which remarkable is that he's never spent a nightingale. The russians declared him dead a long time ago and he's living a quiet life and upstate new york read to tell his story is honestly. As a former spy ever came to You really get away with us here, otherwise I wouldn't have done it reforms to sell out crowds. One ran stages across becomes something happens when you feel that energy and excitement from the Audience- and it's just this- really magic thing that happens in those moments, but it was this commotion for the sportswear company under that introduce virtue marty six and a half million people saw alive valley last year. Almost eight

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tell you a story. You've probably never heard before, because only a few people outside the f b. I know anything about it. It's a spy story, unlike any other, and if you think your life is complicated. Wait till you hear about jack barsky s, who led three of them simultaneously. One is a husband and father to as a computer, programmer and administrator at some top american corporations and three as a kgb agent spying on america during the last decade of the cold war, the f b, I did finally apprehend him in pennsylvania, but it was long after the soviet union had crumbled, which makes jack barsky story even more remarkable is he has never spent a night in jail? The russians declared him dead a long time ago, he's living a quiet life in upstate new york and has worked in important insensitive jobs. He's now free to tell a story as honestly as a form

spy ever can so, who are you aware, am I that depends when the question is asked right now, I'm jack barsky. I work in the united states, I'm a us citizen, but it wasn't always the case. How many different identities do you have? I have two main identities, a german one and an american one. What's your well name. My real name is jack barsky, what name or were you born with a place to death? He say that three times real fast just had one slowly added pressure to detail how Albert dietrich became jack. Barsky is one of the untold stories of the cold war era, when the real battles were often fought between the cia and the kgb. Mirsky was a rarity, a soviet spy, who posed is an american and became enmeshed in american society. For the ten years he was operational for the kgb. No one in this

great, knew his real story, not even his family. if you really get away with us here. Otherwise I would have done it would burst. Key did can be traced back to east germany back to the days when he was outbreak, dietrich a national scholar and a renowned university and Yang dietrich was on the fast track to becoming a chemistry professor, his dream job and work out. That way, because I was recruited by the kgb to do something a little more adventurous spy, we called it something different. We use a euphemism. I was going to be a scout for peace, a kgb scout for peace. That is correct, a communist buys where the good guys in the capitalist wise, where the evil one. So we didn't use the words by he said:

his spine career began with a knock on his dorm room door. One saturday afternoon in nineteen, seven, a man introduced himself claiming to be from a prominent optics company. I wanted to talk with me about my career, which was highly unusual. I immediately there was a flash in my madison stasi exterminated. The latest term, in secret police. Here it was, stasi agent. He invited dietrich. Did this restaurant in vienna, where a russian kgb agent showed up in took over the conversation, the kgb like dietrich potential, because he was smart. His father was a member of the communist party and they didn't have any relatives in the west hatred like the attention and the notion he might get. Hope this. And what did you think of america was the enemy and and the reason that the americans did so well was because they exploited or the third world countries. That's what we were talking That's what we believe we didn't know any better go

in an area where you could not receive west german television? There was called the value of the clueless for the next couple of years. The kgb put dietrich through elaborate tests and then eighteen, seventy three. He was some of the east berlin to this former soviet military compound, the kgb he says, wanted him to go under cover. At that point, I had passed all the tests, so they wanted they made me. For which I have been thinking about it all, along with one count the weight and that You didn't really know I was gonna come is how do you test dr becoming another person? It was a difficult decision, but he agree to join the kgb and eventually found himself in moscow undergoing intensive training, very as part of the twenty was operational work determination as to whether you being under surveillance, morse code,

a short way radio reception. I also learn how to do micro, dots, microsoft is you, take a picture and make it so small with the use of a microscope that you can put it under a a postage stamp. The soviets were looking to send someone to the: u s who could pose as an american dietrich showed a command of english and no trace of an east german accent that might give him away. He learned one hundred new english words every day it took me forever. I I did a probably a full year of an n of phonetics training, the the difference between hot and haute alright that that's very difficult and most germans don't get that one. You want to go to the united states. Oh yeah sure it was new york san francisco young. We heard about these places. You're horizons works loudly now, I'm really in the big league. Dietrich needed in a man an identity, and one day

a diplomat out of the soviet embassy in washington came across this tombstone just outside of d c. with the name of a ten year old boy who died in eighteen. Fifty five, the name was jack, philip bosky and they said guess what we have a budget of a goodly going to the? U s, and that was the jack bars, keep bars bert birth certificate that somebody had obtained. was given. I didn't have to get this myself. Did you feel strange walking around with this identity of a of a child? No! No! When you do this kind of work, some things you don't think about because of you poor. You may find something around like the newly minted jack bar landed in new york city in the fall of nineteen. Seventy eight with a phoney back story called a legend fake canadian passport that he quickly discarded the kgb plan for

was fairly straightforward. They wanted the twenty nine year old, east germany to get a real. U s passport with this new name and become a business. Man then insert himself into the upper echelons of american society and then to get close to national security visor. It's a big me have Brzezinski so that he could spy on it. That was to plan failed Why? Because I was not given very good instructions with regard to how to apply for a passport when he went to apply for a passport. Rockefeller centre barsky was thrown off the list of questions specific details about my past, for which I had no proof so I walked out of it. Did the kgb have a pretty good grasp on the united states and how things work there now Absolutely not. They made a number of mistakes in terms of giving me advice,

What to do or what not to do they just didn't know, left to fend for himself in a country the kgb didn't understand. He got himself a cheap apartment and tried to make do with a birth certificate and six thousand dollars in cash. The soviets had given him his spine career at that point more resembled the bumbling boris bad enough than james bond, so you working as a bike, messenger right that there's a sound like a promising a position for a spot. No, wouldn't there were a lot of things that I didn't know so how close hinge ever get to brzezinski not backing to get a social security card which he would need. If you wanted a real job bearskin knew he would have to do some acting. Was unusual for thirty plus your old person to do so.

I don't know, I don't have a social security card. Give me one. So, in order to make my story stick, I made my face dirty. So I looked like somebody who just came off a farm at work. The lady asked me she said so. How come you you're on your own have accorded when the answer was. My didn't need one. Why, where I worked on a forum- and I was but the interview, the socialists, ready card enabled him to unroll baruch college in manhattan where he majored in computer systems. It was class valedictorian, but you won't find a picture of him in the school year book and nineteen. Eighty four he was hired as a programmer by metropolitan life insurance wearing access to the personal information of millions of americans. You are writing computer code like this,

it, and I was really good at what he didn't write he stole on behalf of the kgb. What was the most valuable piece of information you gave them? I would say that that was the computer code, because I was a very prominent piece of industrial software still in use today. This was I b m code. No comment, you want to say no That was good stuff. It was this work. It was helpful to the soviet, it would have been helpful to the soviet union and in the running of organisms and factories and so forth. How often is you communicate with the russians? I would get radio radiogram once a week, a radio meaning radiogram means transmission was on a certain frequency at a certain time, thursday night at nine fifteen marshy would tune in to wish

wave radio at his apartment in queens and listen for a transmission. He believed came from cube autumn messages were encrypted said they became digits and the digits would be sent over as in groups of five, and sometimes I took a good hour to Just write it all down and another three hours to decipher during the ten years he work for the kgb bark. He had a ready made cover story. It. Wouldn't somebody asked where you're from jack would you say a from new jersey was born in orange guttered american. Nobody ever question that people would question mind. You have an accident, but My my comeback was yeah. My mother was german and we spoke a lot of german at home. You had to tell a lot of lies. Absolutely I was living a lie. Were you a good liar? The best you had

a good liar to juggle the multiple lives he was leading every two years while he was under cover for the kgb, farsi would return to east germany and moscow. Forty breathing during one of his visits to east berlin, he married his old girlfriend and they had a son? Did that complicate matters in this you wasn't complicated complicated later, because because I got married in the united states or somebody else. How did she about your other wife in germany. No did your wife. We know about the not at all, so you had to twice. I did. I was officially bigamist, that's that's the one thing I am so total, not proud of being a spy was all right.

And in hindsight you know I was a spy for the wrong people, but but I this one hurt, because I had promised my german wife that you know we would be together forever and I broke that promise And the one we I can explain it to myself as I had. I had separated the german the details from the bars geared to the point where the two just didn't. No about each other. Not only did he have two different identities and two wives. He had a son name betty. In germany and a daughter named elsie in america and by november nineteen, eighty eight radiogram from the kgb would force him to make it excruciating choice. I receive a radio when that is essentially said. You need to come home, your cover may soon be broken and you are in danger of being arrested by by the american market authorities. Thirties was given urgent instructions from the kgb to locate to oil and I'll keep that have been dropped.

to a fallen tree. Just off this path on new york, staten island, a fake passport in cash that he needed to escape the united states in return, the east, germany, would be concealed inside the can. I was supposed to pick up the container and go on leave right, not even go back home to the Parliament has disappeared. The container was now I dont know what I would have done well founded, but I know what I did, but I didn't find it. I did not tell them repeat the operation. I made the decision to stay. Why? Because a chelsea haider s if Chelsea is not in a mixed. That's no brainer, I'm out of here bearskin, had chosen chelsea over motifs at bonn

although it was it, was a tough one, because on the one hand I had a wife and a child in germany, but if, if I don't take care of chelsea, she grows up in poverty, so maybe a little harsh. But it's. It sounds like the first time in your life that you thought about somebody. Besides yourself, you're, absolutely right. I was quite an illegal maniac. I was at the end of nineteen eighty eight jack bars, he's ten year run as a clandestine kgb agent in the united states was about to come to an end. He had ignored soviet warnings that is covered had and decided to remain in america and not returned to his native east germany. He was taking a chance that no one in america

whatever find out who we really was, and he was taking a bigger chance that the kgb wooden retaliate for disobeying an order, the urgency with which the soviets seem to view the situation became clear one morning in queens. jack barsky says he was on his way to work in December nineteen. Eighty eight standing and waiting for an a train on the subway platform when a stranger paid him of his verses character in a black coat, and he sidles up to me and he whispers in my ear. So you got to come home or else you're dead, and then he walked out russian accent. Yes, that's an incentive. It's an incentive to go. I mean spies, get killed all the time they do.

but I mean the entire time. I always had this child like belief, everything will be all right. So what are you to tell the russians? Well, I sent them. This dear john letters, goodbye letter, in which I stated that I had contracted aids and that the only way for me to get a treatment would be in the united states. You just brought them a letter and said I can come back. I've got aids sweet thing, so I tell people that the russians were afraid of aids, jewish people and ronald reagan, and they were then atwater. I think wild reagan took the top spot. They thought he would push the button. The age apparently work because an east berlin, the soviets, told his german wife, your linda, he wasn't coming back. They went to go under I told her that I had died of aids, so I think they just wrote me off completely. You are officially

in my germany after five years. He was able to declare me dead Once the berlin. Fell in the soviet union fell apart force. Was a man without a country. No one would want him back. He felt his secret was safe. In America he became a family guy with a wife to kids, chelsea and jesse and a job a broad himself in December, keeping a low profile. I was settling down. I was living in rural pennsylvania, the time a nice house, two children, I was like typical middle class existence in his life, would have stayed quiet if advocate gb archivist named the silly metro can hadn't affected to the west and ninety ninety two, with the trove of notes on the soviet spying operations around the world. Buried deep in his papers was the last name of a secret agent. The kgb had deployed somewhere in america,

bosky. We were concerned that he might be running an agent operating in the federal government somewhere, who knows in the fbi the cia, the state apart We had no idea Joe riley was an f b. I agent, when the bureau got the mitrokhin tip and the barsky case quickly became serious enough that f b I director louis Freeh, got personally involved. The f b I didn't know who or where he was, but the best they seem to be a jack bosky who was working as an I t, specialist, in new jersey, with a suburban home across the border and mount bethel pennsylvania side from his name was everything else. It maybe a suspicious you think that this was the guy you were looking for. Yes, one thing was the fact that he had applied for social security number late in life, especially some. Unlike him, who was educated and intelligent, the fbi,

I began following barsky and when this surveillance photo caught him talking to a native of cuba, the bureau growing, singly concerned, there was some indications that I could possibly be the head of internationalist byron because I had a friend who was originally from cuba, and it so happened that this friend on an apartment that was rendered to soviet diplomat, so that one ways all kinds of flags and dig investigated me very. Very, very carefully fbi agent, Joe riley went so far as to set up an observation post on a hillside behind bars, keys house. This is a picture he took up his view. I got a telescope and binoculars as if I was birdwatching, but I was looking at his back yard and had him over time. I learned a great deal about him

That's why just watching him well, I became convinced that he loved his children, and that was important because I wanted to know if he would flee. There was less chance of that, even if he was devoted to his children and he was but that wasn't enough for the fbi. The bureau block the house next door to get a closer look at the bars do I think we paid what he was asking and we had two agents living there so that we could be sure who was coming and going from his house without being too obvious in our surveillance, you had no idea the f. I was living next door to keep up their side no o reilly up on a hill where the binoculars, absolutely not. When the f b, I finally got authorization from the justice department, the bug, bourse, keys home the case broke wide open within I'd, say the first two weeks that we had microphones

his house. He had an argument with his wife in the kitchen and during the course of that dispute, He readily admitted that he was an agent operating from the soviet union, it was all the f b I needed to move in on basket. They set a trap for him at a toll bridge across the delaware river, as he drove home from work late. One friday, afternoon in may of nineteen. Ninety seven I'm being waved to the side by a state trooper, and he said we were doing a routine traffic check. Would you please get out of the car I get out of the car and somebody steps up from from behind and then shows me a badge when he said f b I who would like to talk to you. His face just dropped and we told him that he had to go with us. The first words out of my mouth were

my under arrest, and the answer was no now that took a big weight off of me. So I figured there was a chance to get out of this and one piece in the next question I asked so what took you, Along the f b, I had rented an entire wing of a motel off interstate eighty in pennsylvania, forbore skis interrogation, but on way to the motel. I remember turning to him and I told him that this didn't have to be the worst day of Islam. and he immediately realise that he had a now. I said to them: listen. I know I have only one shot out of this and had means I need to come clean be a hundred percent cent and tell you everything. I know the fbi question bar throughout the weekend and gave him a polygraph test ass. Did he pacts

convinced that his spine days were over and that his friendship with the cuban was just that. The f b I decided to keep the whole thing quiet and allow bar scheme go back to work on Monday morning? Was he charged with something? No, even though he had confess to being a soviet spy? Yes, that seems are well we. one of them to cooperate with us. We did want to put him in jail. He was no use to us. Their worst continued to meet only with the fbi, but with the national security agency, offer his first hand, insights into the kgb and the russians I was able to provide them with a lot of valuable information. How kgb operated the only people who were aware of sacred were the fbi and penelope, his wife in america who subsequently filed for divorce, his daughter, Chelsea, then a teenager, new only that he wanted to tell her something which he turned eighteen,

finally arrived on a four hour drive to Saint Francis university study chuckling to himself and he said well, I must I was a spy. I was gb spiles. What really jock also revealed the children why he had decided to stay in america. He said that he felt love with me. In my my curl, When I was a little baby and then I cried, did he tell you everything He didn't. You didn't tell me one hundred percent a whole truth. He left some things out at that point, I told her everything that can tell in four hours that is age appropriate. There was still a teenager I may not have told her that I was married in germany. He waited another two. Years before he matter of fact: they dropped another bombshell about his past. Look straight ahead. Does heavy and he said did I tell you, you have a brother and

I turn my head. Unlike what are you serious? The half brother was materials. The boar jack had left behind in germany. Chelsea was determined to find him jack. Didn't like the idea. I did not feel comfortable getting in touch with him. Did not feel comfortable. With my acknowledging my german passed after a year of trial tracking track him down online Chelsea finally got a reply from the subject. Lion said dear little sister, and when I saw dear little sister, I just sight of weeping because that meant everything to mean that meant that he accepted me- and this is me a month later, material was in pennsylvania, visiting chelsea and her brother jesse. They hit it off with tears, wasn't interested in seeing his father and change

mine was awkward. I just remember he stared at me for a couple of minutes. You just stared at me. Many had reason to be angry with you, told him? The dilemma that I was faced with, he actually said I understand in what you're relationship like with Mitya s. Now he feels like he's. My son her, the wife in germany who thought he was dead once nothing to do with jack today or with sixty minutes, he has remarried as a four year old daughter. They live in upstate new york, where jack is work. Is director of software development for a company that manages new york's high voltage power grid a critical piece of? U s infrastructure when he told his employer recently that he had once been a kgb spy? was placed on a paid leave of absence before becoming an american citizen. Last year we had been given a clean bill of health by the fbi

and you s. Intelligence agencies, but in the world of espionage, is often difficult to tell which true and what's legend, are you telling the truth right now? I am absolutely the truth as far as I know it. Yes, as far as you know it well, you know some memory fails you, but I am. I am absolutely not holding back anything why, the story. Now I want to My maker clean. I need to get clean with past. I need to digest as fully check your mulligan already. I play the fbi. Agent who apprehended him. Joe riley still believes in bar and then yet another twisted the story. The two were good friends. Engulfing golfing buddies is a very honest person and if you want to find out how honest someone is play golf with them, but europe

european guy needs of former spy here. What's the bond, it's personal, he credits me for keeping him out of prison After nearly thirty years, jack barsky went back to visit a unified germany first in october then again last month, so that was essentially the very beginning of my career. He showed his kids, where this improbable tale began and some other key settings in his odyssey and he caught up with old classmates who knew it is alberich dietrich when you're here in germany, are you albert? Very you were jack? No, I'm jack! I'm honour percent jag the I let the way out out and sometimes interferes, but did they get along very well now, the berlin wall, which once divided east and west, is now boy, except for a section that has been turned into an art display checkpoint, charlie, once the epicenter of the cold.

war is now a tourist attraction full of kith statues of Karl Marx and friedrich angle still stand in the eastern part of berlin relics of another. As is the man who straddled two worlds and got away with, welcomes the player, a new pike, ass network, featuring radio and tv personalities, talking business, sports, tack, entertainment and more play it play died it on. She's on her toes misty copeland is just a well over five feet tall, but she's, a towering figure in the world of ballet a top dancer in one of the top companies american ballet theatre, she's been called a prodigy, a breath of fresh air. She wants to blow the cobwebs out of the stuffy world of classical ballet and open the doors to everyone. Misty copeland is the embodiment of the american dream

she grew. A poor didn't hear classical music until she was a teenager she's, an african american in a profession where there are few at thirty two. She has overcome more obstacles than most of us ever face. When she began, one dance company told her. She would never make it in ballet. boy, were they wrong. Misty copeland will tell her she's no More alive than when she's stage on her to her athleticism, in greece on full display she can lead through the air she can spend on a dark. She can make you believe swan by only feel comfortable up there. Yes, something happens when you she'll that energy excitement from the audience and you'd do I dont have for pure.

You jump higher than you ever have in it's just this really magical. that happens in those moments she performed. You saw a proud john brand stages across the country, but it was this commercial for this. Where a company under armor that introduced her to a new audience about. Six and a half million people see live valley every year, almost eight million. This commercial on lie, a different audience found her when she danced with pop star prince and there. She was on the cover of time magazine as one of the one hundred most influential people, we were at the stage door after a performance and orange county california. She was more like a rock. misty copeland lives in new york city. She feels most at home on the stage of the metropolitan opera,

we're american ballet theatre perform its three thousand miles and a world away from where she began. If there is such a thing as the wrong side of the tracks. That's where misty copeland grew up. She were divorced mother and five siblings moved around like nomads down their luck. They ended up here at this motel on a busy street and gardena California. The whole family piled into two rooms If she hadn't been back in almost two decades until she returned with us, so what's it like seeing this again brings back so many feelings and memories that the good bad a little of both but just start hard time, because I was so embarrassed about it so that I think that's why, when I saw the sign, I was expecting it to be so much bigger, because in my mind, at that time it was just like

this thing. That was so huge that I wanted to hide from she'd play with her brothers and sisters on the balcony. Imagine the railing outside their rooms to be her private studio. She said you would actually use was he as you rightly boy. I would I remember like what you couldn't. I would stretch out here and do my whole. I mean it's actually a really good bar do my whole class out here it was it was a nice little little escape the graceful dancer. We see today stumbled into ballet. A teacher at school noticed her fluid movement and suggested she check out the after school ballet programme at the san Pedro boys and girls club. Mr Copeland was thirteen years old, that's kind of old for someone to just start, taking ballet s, soul,

Was it like when you first walked in to a ballet studio? You know my first ballet classes on a basketball I'm in my Jim clothes and my socks. Trying to do this thing called ballet. They didn't know anything about it, the first time her. She was sitting high on the bleachers, I had I asked her to come down and join us, and it took a lot of coaxing. The culture will soon be broadly the ballet instructor who would change? Mr Collins life? You might call it look Cindy bradley says it was magic. I know able to put it into words, exactly the feeling that I got, but it was almost like a vision of what she could be one day, wouldn't swooped Helen. She had the perfect feet. and she was flexible. I knew tat. She was going One of the great bradley says Mister copeland had again,

If she saw a step, she could master it. It takes most ballerinas more than three years to get up on their toes. It took Mister copeland months once I was a part of it. I couldn't get enough of it. So every day I came in the ballet studio. It was like. Oh my gosh, I'm going to learn something new today. What is it going to be? And I'm just so it all lap. I just never experienced anything like that here. We have crime and a lot of lessons, we would work day evenings too to make up the time the training got so intense and time consuming cindy bradley says one evening coupons, mother called and told her. It was all too much, but the ballet lessons had to win and asked her to drive her daughter home to the motel, and what did you think when you saw where she lived? I saw it all shocked and.

I just knew that dance was going to get her out of there. So after a dream part way home. I turned around and knocked at the door. and asked her mother to let her come and live with us, I remember so vividly just syn coming in speaking with my mother in them, making decision right there on the spot for me to come and live with a mind, just packed up my old backpack everything I and put it in there in my lab, left the grim motel for a comfortable san pedro condo, where she lived with cindy bread. Her husband, Patrick and sun, wolf as part of the family. Almost three years under these wing copeland began to blossom to win awards to gain attention. She says:

mother saw her changing and feared she was losing her daughter and finally demanded. She come home for good. I did not want at least I and the target of losing out coming back and living at this motel was something that I just couldn't let happen it was like watching my future slip away. So at the store conscious age of fifteen at the urging of Cindy bradley misty copeland, went to court to seek independence from her mother. The local prodigies legal drama me headlines, and it got to a point where it was so nasty that list in public that was probably the hardest part was that it was so public. After two bitter months, Mr Copeland dropped her bid for independence, left her life with Cindy bradley and move back home with her mother. I just wanna keep dancing hope that everyone's happy ballet, which one Her lifeline became her escape hatch the next year. She won a scholarship to a man.

I can barely theatre summer programme for gifted young dancers in new york for the second time she was spotted by someone who would change her life. This time it was american, ballet theatre, director, Kevin mackenzie. What culture I She has a proportion to her body and she has a response to music, a visceral response to music and coordination that are all the ingredients of a major ballet dancers. she is now a soloists one of the feature performers american ballet theatre dancing in the footsteps of its legends like mikhail boorish knockoff. I used to one as an african american. If she was aware of the symbol, she could possibly be. Don't you mean you know if she goes where can go. She's can be a very big symbol. This is a very big deal here, a big deal because there are so few black dancers in major ballet companies, there being told they don't fit in there

we have a successful career. They don't have the bodies and to this day I hear that I shouldn't even be wearing a tutu. I don't have the right legs. My muscles are too big. What do you think when you hear that there are times when I believe it? When I start to question you, Maybe it maybe I'm seeing myself in a different way than the people in the audience. See me to me. I would think I like a ballerina and I feel like a ballerina and but maybe I'm not seeing what People are saying, she's changing perceptions. One step time, MR copeland is powerful, elegant determine it takes a lot of effort to look this effortless we saw her drive one night in orange county amid the stagehands. In exotic creatures, we found misty copeland, tying up, leasing up

making up? She was relaxed but focused there's, maybe one pardon my solo. That's that's a little bit difficult for me a partisan lobby. Look on it tell you what she did tell us it's harping on her toes. It looked all right to us, but after the sea we could see The frustration on her face. Maybe you unhappy she put on her stage recent finish the performance she might look like a music box doll, but mr cope with his tongue his nails three years ago in rehearsal for her first starring role as the mythical firebird she didn't tell anyone her left leg was hurting badly. By the time the show came, it hurt us to walk and.

The pressures of knowing how many people were coming out to support how many people in the african american community for the first time that Understood what this meant to have an african american woman in this position doing this rule with american ballet theatre after much faults, opera house so was like I'm doing this critics hailed her performance, but it almost ended her career it turned out to be a very severe injury. I had six structures and my tibia and three of them were almost full breaks through the bone, and I was being told by several there is, I would never dance again, but seven months later, with a played in her leg, she was back on her toes. She had to build her way back, but soon was in top form as ling audience once again, ballet is lifted, misty copeland from poverty over assumptions about race and true injury, but she wants it to take her higher

means of making the leap to principle, dancer the most elite in the valley. You see that in your future. The first time ever. I do if Mr Copeland, his name principle dancer. She would be the first african american ballerina to get that title Adam in ballet theatre company director Kevin Mackenzie, decide this season whether she gets that promotion. he's already getting the chance to dance starring rules. Last month with the wash. in ballet at the John F kennedy centre for the performing arts. She performed the most famous ali of all swan lake. It was the first time to african americans danced the lead rules for a major company. It took her one step closer to other goal of making valley in amerika look like a mirror, onstage and

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