Chris Hardwick is an American stand-up comedian, actor, voice actor, television host, writer, producer, podcaster and king of the world. Chris takes time out of his impossibly busy schedule to sit down with the Armchair Expert and discuss his road to sobriety, the Dunning-Kruger effect, the entrapment of confirmation bias and why we should all be referring to bowling alleys as bowling centers. Chris reveals why calculating data is the trick to betterment and Dax unfairly accuses Chris of having high self-esteem. The two of them debate whether or not we are currently living in a matrix, the reason humans gravitate toward conspiracy theories and Monica adds Chris to her list of #MonicaLovesBoys.
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work so hard. She supported as she clean the house if she cooked his food, she built a company she paid for us to go to college when this woman she gets ten out of ten of my book. I love her so much and you know do it. I'm not a very thoughtful person. I do centre flowers on mother's day. I do never miss out on doing that. You know nice to let some another. You took some time and you thought about them in. You went out of your way and then they get their net so visual and in front of you and it has got there. We got some from ftp flowers area. And we had a lot of flowers. I come to that house, like the sun. Kristen flowery do often- and these were really really really will they have would tell me what they have that their their Floris said. I the case where they have real floor s, creating these bouquet, so it doesn't like feel like a dozen roses or doesn't feel manufactured. It feels like there's a real thought behind it before the really nice.
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a Google play he's Chris Hardwicke, there are. However, my boyhood CAS beg. You bring me into your podcast laughed full disclosure. We're doing. Some are some remodeling of main house from which we do the podcast in all the power was cut to the main house and they can work on it, and I was assured there would be our run to the guest house where we do this podcast even gonna House, before, though we were already made it a house, not none of this size scale inside was just so. You know, most of the things that you are told are not true. Ba horror, you'll shop, one data like why did they tile that wall is not like talking your director of a movie? They want to do for the first time, some like absolutely yeah yeah. Can you can have more? How can this movie whatever you want? Yet you know these one. On board yet likewise, when you're talking to an architect or contractor there, like oh you'll, be in by Christmas, seventeen
a browser. That is not the case at all hazards. Suffice to say when you arrive thousand quite as stated disarray, I had gone and got my generator out of my garage at home, and I have money my extension cords up to here and am deeply embedded. Some humiliated that you had to see me not at all state. We have one light which cause it's what you know when winter hours it's gonna be dark when you re according them, yet its border or twenty eight p m so like within minutes, it'll be pitch. I won't you and I'm hoping that adds to your confidence in sharing the union's wait. A minute I disappeared, idea to you, yeah yeah. You should do all future bug as words pitch black sea of people like reveal anything more intimate about them. Yeah they're, just in the high degree of anonymity in the jar accepted dark cast darkest about. There is already a dark.
As there are not allow. Yes, the talks about renaissance weapons. Can we say we are in the same neighborhood yeah they would eat turkey legs for sharing and turkey legs. Drink mead know how to throw it acts at a stump. So the first thing I want to talk to you about is you have a very, very successful podcast and I have been a guest on a few tire- and I love it, I would imagine one of the liabilities of doing podcast is that a lot of the people here interview them have podcast in is that is that the main liability- and this these solar, like? Why did your legs hurriedly mine, which is bullshit? You? Don't you don't go unlike Letterman and then go Dave. You owe me and now a letter you got that Israel is completely needed to promote something. I don't know you anyone here. My guess is that big that you don't know anyone anything yet you're, credibly Jenny because you boy ran Michael Rosenbaum yeah. That was Superfund, but I have to say what principle I like you a lot and your super funny, and I also I'd like
being on upon task is, like I said when I got here. I just recorded one for mine and I said so great to not be in the driver's seat. I love sort of just go wherever you want to take a cause, then a yank, the difference it so much pressure end. It is it is it it's quite. A journey from having had tons of practice been interviewed, then be the interview we interfere, aware: yeah you just year not free to just gonna, go wherever the hell you want. Yet some has to have some kind of beginning middle man. That's on you! Now that's an adjustment. You know what I'd kiss now that were at years, but the thing that I learned the most from the podcast- but you probably already learned from Improv Training- is how to listen to pay. Now, that's the most important thing I learned from a buy. It was like when my wife and I went on our first couple- a dates. I was a better data or has the podcast taught me how to listen? Yeah yeah, that's the only thing I truly do have going for me. I am really interested in folks due to sit and talk to people, but
It really is a nice way to sit down, people that you are interested in and just get to know them and find out what their like as people were so what conditions, because were so busy in our daily lives that when you see people were so condition to just get out the The minimum amount of acceptable intercourse that gets That sort of hay doing everything, good you're, good Cambodia? Ok, if I were still in good standing, we're still investigating ecological chickens? Yes, I also noted, but then I only know socially like I don't know them, because the conference with a rock star, but I'm really friends with them, because his kids go to school our best friend kit. So yes around a lot, but I do not know anything about of other than like we went trick or treating five times and other yeah, but it's so if you, if you were to sit down and talk, at present I did. I did I did it wasn't heat whence they say I'll, give you a really nice, all God he's like so nice. I told them. I have to remind myself hourly when I'm around him that he's a rock star. Could you would forget issues so humble yeah? It's like a yoke.
Almost where you gonna get angry like taken. You fuck intuited up a little kicks something over at the Somalia and worth having ever tantrum of some. Please tell someone a fuck Argo into a code fuel rant and then back my. Why would you? What are you doing is awful areas where you're not using this properly? Will I read that you in- and this is another fun thing about noon? Is you? U invariably reed shit? That's incorrect, as happens to me. When I go on things, they be like I was only those things on the internet, an idea, wives and stern and day. I assume, went to this website who dated who write. So he wants to get into my past girlfriends. One half of them are completely wrong. People. I've never even match her in its sounds like I'm just trying to avoid the question, but genuinely I've never dated those people, but that's the recent they did right and it seems like I'm deflecting, but I just really didn't know. I did not dates set referred, well, you know the weird ones that rumoured to have your aided, terrapins key Xenophon,
his eyes, skater yeah, that's been years. Why I was well keen across across walk on Hollywood Boulevard. One time, thirteen years ago, and she too was in the crosswalk and there is a pop rancey there and they took a photo of us next to each other walking through across. That's it isn't you have a meadow whenever their rating, though sometimes you remember, crosswalk, with people other times longer wiser somebody get in the car and you actually gab somewhere together ass and when you see that do you think, did I date her We cannot make Lou wonder men now that Monica that, could happen with like. Have you hooked up with this person, but have I dated terror levinsky? No, I would definitely that you know if you dated terrorism pincio. Yes, any period of tat, probably a more accurate question is: did you even realize you're in a crosswalk, whatever happens here, which I did not and then another One is a Yoni sky. I happened to be seated next, to hurt some charity poker event, doesn't ago. An again that's weave data you have any of those. No no. I mean I've.
Had little bits of dating here and there, but I've I've been such a serial monogamous yeah right, I'm totally truth like three relationships: seven year relationship, three, a relationship, marriage literally the term cereals- I just I like being in a relationship I have stated before, but I feel I feel we heard about dating yards very, very uncomfortable, feel strange to go out with one person one night in and go out with someone else. A dim reunited just feels weird. I have done it. I'm not saying I haven't done it. When I was younger, I we did it once in my life tat. I was with a girl for nine years. We in our relationship, so I did have sex with people. That's not denying that, but I never went on a date in. I basically did never had gone on a date. My whole life until she and I broke up. So there is like a year when no between her and Christian
Where did date, people and I felt like a serial killer you're going out with one gale one night in having a great time, and then you go out with another like four days later, have an early someone someone will now with me. I really date much when there was texting. Right right right, but or tinder, but if someone texts e, while you're on a date with someone like side, that is weird I mean if it's part of the agreement- and everyone understands this is nuts you know like yeah. This is allowed. It still feels kind of strange, but even when excommunicated and that's the understanding is still bullshit. It doesn't feel right and I just like getting to the stage where you're in jammies with some on your watch and now you know the movie parent Four, thus share a hundred and four the time you I'd any. I didn't just. I was an accident, but I do What movie was embarrassed? I do what's that movie was a move. You know I'm in this time. You know you're gonna, take a gray s earlier. The tv show o in that makes sense, because one of the other facts I read about you
that you really likes Dean Martin, I do Steve yeah, and so he is the star guarantees as our own. It's a merry steam virgin was at the identical to the critics. Trust worthy of the name- and I wanted to walk up to Aren't you say how watch parenthood once a year then I realized like. What's she gonna say too that, like I d, never she actually would love it because, because you know my wife's on a show, tat ted- and so we ve hung out with them a bunch times in probably the nicest coolness woman in the best did you. I have to do the thing we all did something for it was like an NBC promo like earlier this week. Yeah and I had heard Bow Christen shot when I'm sure she did has, I think everyone cause. I was hearing stories about tat, Dancin dancing. I have a very hard time with his last name. Do you mean
It sounds like ten dancin like Dnc Iron yeah, there was a man called tat, dance or who is on whose the models who only Dan's yes Dan's, Dancin, those those around them Danzig. I mean: can these guys get gather already within the hens? Who I, when I get my my father's ruffled, that I haven't interaction with somebody in the real world that very awkward right. I have to remind myself of how many times I was awkward with famous people, one of them being Glenn Danzig who HU. I got on an airplane with one point: I was behind him and he had like three bodies with them Glenn Danzig. We have seen in real life yeah. He shockingly yeah me like a really your breath away right, because I as again I grew up. You know he was a monster he was like, scary is hell, and these data She doesn't wrestled an alligator one, video to remember romilly he s, so I
picturing you know humongous fella in he's very very short, so I said to his body while lindens eggs, I e short Ha Ngos, you're fucking tall who gives a shit mother fucker you got. This is the thing when's really sensitive about, and I just went straight at it. It is both right and yet usually- and this is just a good rule of thumb- for usually the first thought you have about a celebrity or their name or their appearance whenever they ve heard it air aware I've been punished or that those indiscretions I have. I met Gary coal at an audition wants a great actor Jericho, its invented a million things, but you know from office space or Brady Buncher, a million earlier yeah yeah yeah. So I said, oh hey, my friends and I were talking to the day about how get you and Gary Coal Man s very common egos, caricom in Vienna, and he was all about it, but I, but I had to be reminded, like I'm doing
the big knowing it now you know it's just human is just sort of issues human. You don't have any prior. I experience that has prepared you for this now interaction, but I met Steve Arden last year a couple times and he was great. He was I did movie that he was in baby Mamma you up and we had a lot of time, hanging out on set, and I found him too a more serious of a guy than I would have thought men around saying that in a negative way he's a pretty. Smart guy areas, individuals, a pretty straight arrow unease also Shylock. If you're here, if you read born standing up witches, be pure even kind of EAST Timor better. A fan of comedy stand whatever you have to read, or actually even better, listen to the audio version, because he reads it out and when we had a reads a lot of his old bids, he's kind of doing a lot of the bits at school, so yeah, but a lot of comedians are pretty yes, serious people yeah just
because you're like really EU, when its go time, you can be huge loud, bright and shiny, doesn't necessarily right you're that way now you were born in Kentucky. This is true, yeah that part from the internet is true, ok and then in the new moved, Memphis Tennessee there was alive. A bit of shuffling in between Turkey, in Tennessee, but ultimately ended up in Memphis? Juliet blue blue play is that my fair on that the name of a beautiful barbecue places snobs beautiful smoke sausage and there are no alarm Robert resign insides is puts himself in your mouth. Yeah, I'm fine! I might have come down measures that may be, but I don't think it's coming down then pretty happy. I am to you my rooms, but yes, I will let you know we can shifted, went to Florida little Bit, but ultimately I was raised Memphis and so what we want.
Where I am from. I just say Memphis because its, but that's cool too complicated, to explain his eye. They go very fragmented, go a lot of places to go or me Brad. I got no, my dad caterpillar, that's what I may that then. That's like fifty other question. By the way me bringing out members is really only a vehicle to me for me to say Your father was a professional they're. All the same bowler easily, the veins one of the greatest bowlers literally one of the greatest in the history of this for years, and are you a good bowler you, are it's genetic. Well, I guess I could ball from I am. I could walk and my mothers. Father also had a couple bowling centres out. I'm pretty sure is how my parents, that's your mom's dad on the boy. Now, yes, and then they met there, the yes, this is the point monsieur anatomy, orderly at this ok Romeo joint weren't supposed to be together their family shrinking apart, but this was all bowling. Everyone was happy
but what I'm saying it might be a little bit of a cautionary tale as if you start a business and you have daughters. You have to think about the fact. If you know what kind of business or use during your daughter's organ or interact with all these folks, radishes daughters are, can interact with bowler yeah. So yours, your daughter's, likely and end up with a bowler which in fact happen that that happened yet what kind of livelihood cannot professional Buller pull down in the eighties, while this was in the sixties, he retired about thirty four, so he was like seventeen thirty four. He was on the propellers tour, aha alliance. Nineteen seventeen year, and so you get a lot ass on that to her, where their allotted there's a lot of female bowler Franz well, yeah. I mean yes because at the time bowling was, we are very premier sport and it was found eyes right like an unhealthy eyes, there was a very cool thing to do and then in the seventies it started to side of it and so what s interesting about the financial gains of bowling that the money and Boeing has weirdly not gone up at all the time that my dad was on the train doesn't shocked me so
actually even like the greatest. Both where's onto on a right now, if I understood, incorrectly are clearing about like three hundred grand and you can make that of one fucking golf match? Yes, the by not even placing them yet exactly funding about this bank ass. Is it at the end of all this Monica will go in czech everything we ve said and then shall give the real dad. So we fact check it. The end of our partners. Sure Sylvia. So people they stay too and they'll find out exactly what our professional are. Currently, I think I can the top bowlers make in the tube You two three hundred range and that's like those are the top top guys there's just those are the Michael, Jordan, Those are not all, there's not a lot of money in it and for us, but isn't it it's all, but the endorsement game. I would imagine, but even so like a lot of the money from bowling before. If Europe you own a bowling centre which my dad did until he died. A was legal.
You know only I right right, then, at a certain point, it sorted shifting and it became like cosmic bowling, unlike leagues dropped off, but then people would come in, Ro Bowling, Sarah, like a like a bar like a club and the lights, would be flashy. I hate all that shit cause it just like a need to focus right. But yes, you, like an old fashion blog. I need I reminded on my ass or turn I dont, my dear, I don't guess lantern I need steam punk. I need a bowling spats wooden bowling, binding oversee raising the moon. That great movie wish on PAN and Nicholas Cage is at the bicycle movie. No, no they're about to go to world war. Two and shown Pang gets his girlfriend pregnant or rather may be Nicholas cage. It's his. It doesn't matter. I think that they work at a bowling alley and they work at one word. They had a reset the pen, so yeah does the old Dame nostalgia for that matter, those in the old days but it but it's, but I love bowling
love being in it like, if my walk into a bowling centre that sounds and in you may all at a bowling centre, not a bowling alley. Why is it uncouth to save polio? It's interesting is that, if like what may not interesting anyone, but me use that Boeing Centre more times in the last five minutes and I've heard my whole life now the militant lamentably well debt, but it's just like an end. Profession. How, if you understand what the vernacular is every word, the nuance of every word, not something slightly different MA bowling alley. As a very seedy place. I got a bowling alleys like Mozilla, the difference in going to a pool hall in a billiard club to think. If you go to a bowling alley, it's pretty. That means pretty City Desoto Appalling Centre. That's a family play! So my dad and my girl
Father had bowling centres, it's like these words safe places where you could take your family, yes, and that its genome, and only alley which is where you would you are likely to get shot one. That is their thinking. I was just telling this to somebody this weekend. Madam, you know groping kind of rural Michigan. The bowling Alien Tom was is amazing, opportunity to see adults acting like fucking animals Monday, because there were ok games therein, they sold food. Every one was welcome. It wasn't like an agent but but always in plain view, there was a bar where people get shit faced in providing every couple hour or so oh dancing! So a lot of these songs, these eighty snappy love songs. When I hear them, I immediately go back to watching like really hammered adults, slow dancing elsewhere. I am bringing him to find new ways, however, the question that was only wait till she factual
twisted, so that is ahead of us what they know. What is a good score? Fer, a professional bowler like some is really good. What I'll say? Yes I'll take this every does it do twenty two, if you're bluntly twentieth, your start right now, two or anymore all really so I wrote an article isolate for why and I wrote an article in wired based on something my dad used to say, which is both gotten to easy, because the technology is made the gave all the scores higher and I did a bunch of research, talk to some companies and found out that he was actually accurate. My father was like on my dad, had like the highest average on the tour in this sixties for a couple years at like to twelve ok Sixty that was really high, but if you look at the Materia This reverence but involves a boy balls are made at a rubber. The lanes were made out a wood, the pins or may not a would now if you go to a bowling centre.
The latter only empowers the lame is actually not. What would the lane is? Actually a its commitments has ass composite materials with wood grain laser printed on it and the reason it that's relevant is because would deteriorates year and it has to be resurface, has regroup and then the bowling. A material now has a cover story. They have glass particles in them is called a reactive resident, ass particles in them. When the balls, spinning. It creates friction for lack of a better way than the poor is on the ball. Up a bit. So the glass particles than grab the lane and then can a sling shot into the packet and explode the pins, and so the game- is to be about accuracy and making spares. Now it's just making strikes right strike. So all the as bowlers now average like two forty to fifty all railway, but it, but in my dad's day, was like to dwell on many career three hundred city, yet he heads
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so. You're dead on them a bowling centre and a bowling cathedral in Memphis and then in Florida know that my grandfather's I'll get a menu of essentially this to me, where things get dodgy. If I'm, u, you move, from Memphis episode, seven does not allow salmon that crises crazy. Here. Yes, you, moved Colorado in high school, my mom remarry, my parents, divorce, my mom remarried, the guy she married, whose wonderful guy we move to day Amber Colorado for a few years. How did you get the one wonderful stepped out? That's Canada breaks them. I cannot tell you how lucky I feel not, but both my data myself, tat both died, but he was a good guy. I stepped out Jim seems Jim Hills great Guy in Missy. I want to ask a silly
What we ask is that you, as it was an honour, their memory now that I said about my father, has passed, do ok I'll get orients. I figured out so oh my dad dad do. I was sixty two hours. Your shit committed to seventy two ok but Jim, was deceptive Gmos after he wasn't intimidated by your father's prowess. Hizbollah, what's interesting is that Jim was also a professional, but Jane was also in but lefty left, animal or and ended, but he he gave up bowling shortly after him, my mom started dating, but he was like a scratch golfer and uses the crazy good athlete, but also just a he's alive the guy, because he knew gotta be a dad, but he was very respect.
For that. He knew he was not my biological father by our, but but he also treated me like a son, but not in a way that was like you, fucking, listen, just a good guy, very supportive in very he was just a lovely guy. Well, you know I got a whole new respect for the business of stepfather ain't when in that year I wasn't men between christened the nine european idea, a woman with it on what happens with what is very hard about it is I fell in love with? little boy in now because I love this little boy. I wanted to turn out. Well, you see something that they're doing that you things going to result in them being a shithead. You feel compelled to correct the behavior and it's just a big I know you can really do that as the non biological father. It's also a strange. I mean it. I'm not apparent Solana North from talking about, but Knowing when someone is doing something that is not going to have a good result, you want to tell them and go to discuss If, however, we do this way, but that also
you don't learn that way and then, if you fuck it up because told that you made them aware, but it s almost like the matrix thing of like. Would you have broken the vase? If I hadn't told you about it right, you you'd damage the experiments by observing the experiments. I just feel at you- and I have at about ten conversations at this point and I feel like you brought up the matrix and I was often did you all roads led back to them did or is it that's what your reality agony when we know that this you may we think of the matrix. We did you guys. I look like NEO someone hinges which just like a maniac, as we talked about the this. This notion that people have that we're living in a simulation. In my point, which I dont think you agreed with, was only people with awesome live where, if you like, of course, you must use a big proponent of this theory. I have heard him talk about it, the bunch, and I think that for you unless it must feel like using computer Jenny
It world, because it there's no way he's that successful and has invented this many things, but I don't think there's a call, a minor right now digging in the coal going. This can simulation. Isn't it I'm just the coal mining siege emulate. I just happened to be the unlucky guy who got stuck in the coal mining and unless he loves being a call, my gap as bad as I think, what up wherever I think, that's, patronising and placating, and what else to pretend that there's a com,
fuck you never coal mining leaders liberalizing to say that there is no way his life is good. I also use arise over. I didn't say his life wasn't good as a big job sucks. I look. I've had those fuckin jobs. I was a river. I detest corner they weren't good fun. John Kennedy made religious call him for saying that the very narcissistic point of view that, because he doesn't like it, means that no one else can, I said, please call him out on all you out. They can all that naive, realism and comprehend. Someone in Africa doesn't want a microwave coal mining verses, owning teslas. Probably I think we can. We can. We don't have to pussyfoot around that is probably better to own tussled and fuck and work in a coal mining. Give blood Long also is it you know, I'm getting then there's here and then a sort of the subtle differs between working in a coma. And mining that type of fuel and then an elite
her car. It's kind of a yachts got now so there's so much more, but I don't know I don't know if like if we, if we unplug from the matrix and Elon Musk, is a guy in a male room whose getting you know pistol whip by a bad boss and then Ajax back into the matrix knees I gave the smartest man and now I've privatized, space travel. I go to space, I mean, let's make zone, so you move would you Colorado right in in nets for high school now I change school districts in high school. I found a very hard. I live in the heart, but I did because minded Van your step that rule the loved. I know in a whole new. I know bowling. I think coal mines and ass I ran away. I think we moved a handful of times, and I was growing up in so that you know this thing I have with me where I was. I was almost popular for being. Unpopular in the sense that you know I wasn't just club
I did play the India, and so it is in those it appeared in an era you really only could relate to like maybe three or for other people in your entire town, and then that was it. You did not have the joint You have digital communities to me. I can, but I need ries report you yet so what would happen. Is we would move, and every time I would become our opposition make sense to you that would become capital city Milhouse, for like a minute where I would be like I'd, be like I'd I'd like people didn't think I was a dipshit and then I would just slide back into my old, like I could not make tat, I could not maintain the facade and all the obsessions. The obsession with video games and sigh fine stand a comedy like things that most other kids at that time were not into yes, and I know it sounds strange said it, but that's true, most other kids were not into the stuff that I was into, and so it always give me a chance to start over yeah and I enjoyed that's, even though I knew I was gonna fuck it up right. I had very, very steep decline. I was
cool and junior high, and then I switch schools and started ninth grade with a short long you now typical, with a name like Dax relocked when you're cool it works in on you, when you have a really bad short long in mad scan and you ve grown three inches and lost ten pounds and your name backs now, it's a it all. Backfires sure mine was like a we went from having last and school to me miserable the F o and in the worst like during peak ready to lay a worse time to not have. I was six three and a hundred forty nine pounds acme in just the wars haircut you ve ever seen, but I think and I look- on those days on those really. Awkward times or I felt like it, sucks to be social, the ostracize I don't enjoy liking. Other kids does, I think, they're into dumb things and they want back on that, I think will that was so significant, because if I had been popular great school, then I would have peaked because I we wouldn't have occurred to me to be interesting.
But anyway or or really drive me to try to avoid you would have you would have ran the risk of being content like life would have been good. You would had a bunch of friends, but I want to stay in your town and then it is certain points you know It doesn't get so easy and you'd you don't have as many of the coping skills, because things came, are easily to you. When you were young yeah, and I mean I've oversimplify, everyone has a fuckin struggle, but but ultimately, and then at twenty five or thirty year, like what you don't know. No, no yeah in one of the mountain Gladwell books. It talks about one link. I can't even keep track of random all but there's a chapter chaplain dyslexia and for four gains. It was known that if you were dyslexic you had it twice ass likely to go to prison, but then they ll your found out that you're also twice ass, likely to be a ceo of accompany so it's one of those things like there's blink destroys, you are makes you yeah yeah, so I think that
why a kind of tell people, the things that you think are for, as we make you unique and those are actually weirdly your strength, yeah, the things that you you look in the mirror and you see some weird version or something or you obsess on one thing number one most p. Well, don't also see that thing, because their obsessing about their own things a number two. It's probably sort of a weird conformists. The evolutionary piece of by L, a gene, your brain that makes you think like. I need to be this to be accepted, but then you start to realize, like none o. That thing may me unique- and that is the thing that makes me that that that provides the strength that I a yard, but yet to your point about the biology, I do think people Oh vastly underestimate the fact that we are the ultimate pack animals like what we think of dogs. We know dogs or pack, Animal
We got all because their pack animals, we can train them. This won't. We owe them. I jogs good point nicer. I jogs yeah, my nails breaks down completely, remember with on them, but but were even more social than them. You known as things are you? U can do these things? Are the dogma of the the dog needs right away, is it alpha beta gamma, you know, he'd is how you're going to train this dog. It has so much hardwiring to be social to live in a pack right. We we have even more hard wire, for that, so our that I live in a bag and I think a dog also has it- has a drive to being a social hierarchy. As do we, though, you look at every primate which we are prime, and they have the most clearly defined strata of pirates enough, and we too have that. So I think so much of our preoccupation about status and success in all these things, they're, just they're fucking carry over bad genetic Zella tells us four year. Yes, what will because, ultimately them? If you really think about that part of
a humans biological directive is to preserve Your genes, announcing that all people are being. I'm supposed to do are meant to do, but I'm just saying: if there's biological programming somewhere and migration from London uranium that says yeah, you know You know. I have genes, I need to make sure you are in order to do that. I need to be accepted by a group in order to be accepted by a group. I have to have some. Skills are. I have to do things so that I can a show. What and I think is part of the reason why sociopaths are so attractive and north This can be so attractive because well maybe the nurses but sociopath when someone doesn't you do your instantly, acted too there, because I think gonna buy madrigal level you go oh, my god, what they don't need, anything there not injured. They dont need my approval Ryan. That tells me other above me: yes, as I'm only seeking the approval of people that are above me and when I walk in seven eleven and there's the guy with the parrot on his shoulder. I'm not.
And he tells me you liked how I parked obedient meet the lizard. But if Michael Schumacher, it Michael Schumacher, is working on a seven eleven, unlike, I hope he notices how well I part what if he had apparent, would you be excited about that Michaels? mockery. He could get away with having apparently a kick that I've been complaining. A lot lately is just how I think social meeting the internet offends all of that and as much as I I mean? I really do think that I'm crossing my fingers that it all nets positively, but just in the way that it it encourages people to communicate. Very toxic. I'm concerned that a lot of as biological mechanisms are being applied to a pair, a dime, that that praise on all of the weaknesses of our shall all of our wiring is vestiges too that new, yes, hi tech paradigm. Yes, my big concern with at all, as this is so ok, you live in a group with two hundred other humans right and you lived with all the guys in the women olive together. This is how we live four hundred fifty thousand years, and you are
would be the best at something right. You're gonna be made, the best spears, you were gonna, something you would stand out foreign and that would give you self esteem and now you're in a group of literally four billion people of your own face ray odds of you being the best at anything? It's impossible, you'll, never also you're you're dating anyone. You know. If you live up to our people, you can pretty much guess who's the best gal ulitza Zack, and I'm sure we talked about this near the monk, as this is exactly why I am so fascinated by the Dawning Krueger experiment, yes, which base are you? Are you and Lucy me of of suffering from no? No? No! No! No! No! No not! I know the least about this topic about it, but it's about it. That's exactly right. Is that that that idea of people eating to be the best it something, and so having people speak as experts when they don't know something is eight, is not just cause there. Indicative, biological and also idea that people who are
learn about something that stupid, but I mean ignorant of actual facts. There, too ignorant to know that they are ignorant about some less, so they need to believe that they are experts in order to fold into culture and society, and so you know when people get off. Superior online, a large percentage of them genuine I don't know exactly what they're talking about. They have peace to store, re together that they need to believe in order to allow themselves to function. Yes, what's that good Clell you'd high about about smart people and on paper others the melted exactly what is its it because he called. I can remember exactly, but it goes something like the the big tragedy of of life for humans is that the dumbest people speak the most and the smartest people speak the least I'm fucking it up it. He border they discovered that done here is area before intercourse. I m sure we sent like assholes even talking about it, so maybe we're the dumbest people of all, but I do think that even
organizing that, has been really interesting, because it makes me more hesitant when I things now, I've become an overqualified hour ago. He has, I dont, you know like. Maybe this isn't rights or in my opinion or but how many are, I've gotta people online where they say something go well, you know, that's your opinion, but this idea that were an opinion. As fact era, the eye is like. Why feel this? So if you don't feel this than your fuckin stupid cause, I'm right you're wrong with the research that mean it doesn't matter. I know I'm variety. Well, I don't know you know, and I am sure this happened to you like I've- been proven wrong dozens of times online, I've like tweeted some and then someone pulse me an article or whatever, and- and I believe that in that feeling, into acknowledge. I was wrong and correct. It is it's so painful doesnt really. Doesn't I like it because I feel, like I learned something see people really misunderstand. The difference between constructive criticism and just fucking toxic insults,
there is a difference between oh hey. I know you said this thing, but here's something that might enlightened right. Where are you? Oh, my god, that's great, I'm! So sorry I you know whatever I've just talking to ass, you thank you for teaching me something verses. Hey you fuckin idiot. What what sir goal of Satan's anus. Did you cry aloud? I haven't you. Go only mean that they go. Oh, I guess you're not open to criticism like no has insulting. No, I didn't I'm pretty sure. Nine out of ten people would have found that insulting ivy, like my experiences, have not been that soft touch you just described Ivy League most times I've been proven wrong. There was a couple fuck use in their, so that's been hard from its partial, its largely why I always try to attack with kindness or let someone know, because, although I think everyone wants to be heard, everyone wants to be heard because we all want to feel significant unconnected, even if someone's shitty to you, if you sailing hey, you know, I undressed
and when your point is I'm listening, I hear you, I don't necessarily agree and also you know, that was a little hurt, your great at that you you. You are particularly good set, and so is my wife. I watch the way she disarms people when she's in these bats online cuz. She often is putting something. That's semi, political or you know. I have something to do flampe, it's not always the first thing I write. I will allow me to write the go fuck yourself in the face tweet and then I delete it haha and then I you know, I think it's important ask yourself: is this just gonna My ego feel better for half a second and then I'm gonna happen. It can backpedal. Yet if I'm gonna backpedal than I should bother with this year, and I should you know in there any truth. What this person saying am I wrong am. I had some piece of shit why? I am, I can't remember you're sober, but I can't remember: do you twelve stop or no? No I went to a couple meetings in the beginning and I did not connect with them yet
and so I had a very good therapists and I had a good group of fellow stand of comics who not surprisingly alot of whom they had to have had something of battles share, and so I sort of I did have a support structure. Couple supporters. Now that I've been silver fir for ten years yeah? I noticed your sober like a year and a month longer the me yeah, so if I net now there is a role for this long. I find I'm still learning things about myself and sobriety, and I have gone to a couple meetings that I really enjoyed- and I understand them differently- now, because I understand I used to think my problem- alcoholism? My problem is not alcoholism. My problem is sort of obsessed. Disruptive, yeah, hidden, excessive destructive thinking in its true its country. All issues in itself loathing and it's all these things. Then Alcohol was a manifestation of that, but the meetings where you you know that a couple that I been too. I don't go to the very often, but when I do I was gonna feel like oh yeah. This is up
thing that this is the common thing that will look very easy, is so easy to go in and focus on how different you are from every one in the room. But if you can focus on things that you haven't common people, I you know whatever. By the way, I could tell us how people it's for the record of, however, legally yeah, but for me The reason I bring it up is that you know I'm kind of required to take a daily inventory at the end of day and if and if I'm wrong, I'm required to promptly admit it and say sorry. So I make a lot of apologies, whether it's on a set. You know I'll be short with the costume or something then the next day I'll say so, so what's interesting about twitter or anything on the internet. Is this a policy. I haven't real life, which is I almost a hundred percent attainable apologizing. People and because I know I'm gonna have to do that. It does curb my my actions are being account. I'm gonna have this. His heart is I'm not even gonna. Do you think I wanna do? Is I nor invariably in ozone and apology, but on line I dont like good, as even crossed my mind, the I'd. Only that's. Why only have
it's on line, where I am only about who I am, I do not have any secret accounts. I do not do anything and automatically because it makes me accountable to how then and then you're less likely to distribute like trash, but this idea of a idea which I find comforted fascinating. Just the limited amount of time that I've spent with it and understand it is where your ego- who is pushing you too, for significant? significant significance. Its of admitting. The idea that you are insignificant that is incredibly comforting. Then it would relinquishes the idea that you are in control or have taken Raoul everybody. I e the clearest case of that that happens. Can irregularly is like you, but eve, you are absolutely at war with another driver that they're trying to kill you and you're trying to kill them, and then at some point you get to pull up next to them. Real. I sat there either their phone or their lifelong learning or hyreanus newly arrived on earth. Yes,
humbling when you discover that there's another version of that which I know people all who are listening and everyone has has been a victim of which is you see, someone in a party that you like and you dont know very well, and you say something: maybe you crack a joker, you say something and then you get. Second, your head, you leave to go. That is why I say that when I say that to that person they fuckin hate me and then you build this whole narrative that is just being filtered and fed through the lens of your own self loathing and insecurity in your own and your own baggage lenses, and then either call them or email them. The next time you see me go. I am so sorry. I said the same thing to go where you talking about these are thinking about themselves or they didn't notice. You know you did the near at hand the best storyteller about how bad I fucked up. I gotta say that's what I'm most creative the that these theories concoct two things I said the people how they took them now, what they're doing in response to that is used
it's completely in your head, it's it's fake, but it did because I've had. I have work the steps and I've had to call you know most of the people I've talked over during you know, decade, plus of being a drunk more often than not. I call them- and I apologise eyes, a mega I'll blow. That's nice that you said sorry, but I didn't give a shit. We're all are you know whatever rise is, it is always a thousand times more power. Our full. In my mind, and not always often it's more powerful my mind than it is theirs, and then what you like from that whole processes on apologizing for me, because I'm the one carrying it that persons not waking up in the middle of the night. Remembering the time I stole their Viking their dresser norms, aim. But I am in that's why you about Desgas, it's too much to carry around all these things that you fucked up. You have an active imagination like we do or writing a narrative is too exhausting. I just have to kind of clean the plate.
At the inner every day you yeah and it's interesting to me because I had great parents, my dad was you know, he wouldn T drink, he that's, it is mine and he drank and Billy died, but it lesson. Does he go as, but he still drank every day he pistol drank like a six pack, a beer a day, slowly throughout the night and occasionally would get drunk. But you know what I'm a teenager, my dad, what kind of went through a mid life crisis and he went through a thing, but ultimately do he's a great guy and we had a wonderful relationship. Moms amazing, my stepfather was amazing and yet some how maybe was this idea of being feeling socially ostracize and being should by their kids not relating to them, but at a certain point, and I think it's right around the time we had puberty, but this image that you have of yourselves sort of freezes in your brain. It's kind of its it's in Europe psyche
and you always kind of see yourself as that kid yea, and it's just I get it off it. Just like the burst of hormones basically like and then the lava cools and enhance their arms, and so I feel like we spent a lot of time in service to that kid or our as a prisoner of that kid's fears or whatever that, whatever they were going through, whatever they were feeling, and I think this is why people are critical of therapy or any kind of self help thing. Is that the misconstrue? Maybe they not allowed people to use it, but that there is a very clear distinction between an explanation and an x Yes, that's right in the end, its really key that you understand that when you're evaluate so it's like, it is first helpful to go for me. I was molested while that that made things going a right turn and then my dad was a drunken bubble. Allow right, but bit me don't be exploring that in so far as to understand why you have these fears you're, not a vivid excellence. You yeah, you know
who is ill? Your tool in that doesn't give you Carte Blanche to act like that fuckin ten year old for the rescue arrives. I guess it's useful to understand that, but but only so far as it is a means to an end, which is oh, that's. Why haven't irrational fear of this, and I need to confront that? That's right, this person triggers me and I gotta stop It gives you that it gives you the tools in the chest to figure out how to fix that stuff, but we really do get the idea in our heads on a very deep level of what we think we deserve without really think too much about it in so. That's why success can be just as much of a trap for people as not succeeding in anything that they set out to do, because if they have idea in their head that they do. Deserve it or they door. Everything turns to shit or they they will. Destroy it subconsciously us without realising it, can you really have to do. Take a step back and you know, I know, have certainly been guilty of it of taking
bang going. Ok, is this real or is this just a by product of weird brain thing that I have power of. It is absolutely mine blowing and I was almost unaware of it for up until very recently, so I have this list of things that I've convince myself are my attractive qualities. The reasons people like me are drawn to me- are United nails, one of them that my daughter did, that on my birthday, goddammit see now I'll, just fuck you what it now or even for the coal minor. That's the thing I wanna be thinking about five. Sorry, I said the nail thing: that's really love! I think everything that puts his back neutral from the coal mine here. You know I'm not working on line. People went out on a date is prick, but at any rate, I haven't identity right that I've constructed in. I have this list of things. I think people are attracted to me. The big breakthrough for me was there was a dont on ships. The movie I directive and I chose to do this and I chose to do without You were hersel because anyone tire marks in the intersection right so that when Europe
in the movie here? Why are there authorities skid marks? That's always a pet people ferret so about to do this big step an dumb everyone's, very nervous at the studio levelling the producers are nervous cause. Why on earth is the director and act or doing this stuff in, and I start questioning right before I hear action. Why put yourself in this situation because it was a pretty gnarly start that could go wrong easily and I had to admit to myself: I've convince myself one of the things before That is the great driver. I sincerely say that, like I would put them in the top three of you to tell me. Why does your wife, like you, I would have probably said you know in the top three I'm aware of that. I did this by task to be buried in my earlier and in another one is I have told myself for years that when people like being around me because they feel
if I will fight guys and I will protect people and that something that's appealing to people right in one eye when I say that in fact, Kristen hated about me and make was very vocal about early in our relationship, and I saw a kind of started back and off the stories. I tell about fighting bovine ups, getting nonetheless interactions with people in this what blows my mind. I'm sweltering this guy last year, whose new newly sober he can tell. He is Zack say my daddy. He thinks it has been a bad ass if something everyone likes about and then so weak Please tell him he's like yeah. Fucking omit the stop right now watch this guy legal pushes old lady now and in every week he wit, This is something that requires him to defend another person, and I go oh, my god that was my whole life, because I told myself this would people like about me. I was always at seven eleven when someone's shoving someone I gotta get involved its. I can't explain it. I dont know why that happens, but since I've stopped thinking that was like one of my best qualities, I don't see any of that anymore. I am never involved than mealy and you are really see the thing that year.
Confirm. Your identity is exactly right. It's confirmation, biased, loop and end it has not only allowed us to go down these visits, the what's been blowing my mind. Lately is the injured to get back the matrix again in a weird like, but it's just the concept of what is reality. We were dangerously far away from the matrix. I don't try to dodge. Like on the roof so button, but just the idea of what is reality in what is truth, because you who can create a confirmation, biased, loop based on all of the sites that you go to you seek out and confirm all the things you not to believe and algorithms early. The that will deliver those things to you because it go though you are like this, because one of things it drives me crazy is when people Laura lies something that they believe you give it way so they'll go. Will everyone thinks that or all the fans of this are saying that they are all of
really or is it you is it everyone have the strength of character? To say to you did you watch Obama Letterman, I The item is seen it. The reason about it up is because he tells a story of a study or some Obama alone, information Obama that there was. I put a guess that there's no way Letterman was talking about a system of there was some study where they had a left liberal type into their search bar Egypt and of where right, conservative type, Egypt and a moderate, and what came up for the right wing. It was most brother heard for the liberal. It was time square and then the moderate was vacations videos yeah in that is just what's coming to you, not what you're, even
attempting to seek out war. But no aim at Google knows that your left right and centre multiplies donor surrounding areas owner activity based on your behalf do or or Facebook. But they will be erect due to took Regan the other thing your ably, but but that it is almost conspiratorial on the part of the internet right. It's not. I dont see this. Spirits in the part of the inner, and I see it as I see it. A by product of convenience, sort of being the enemy right where, where a company goes, we're gonna make it so easy for you to get the stuff that you already like so you don't have to think about. You, don't have to think about it. You know itself, You know what someone said that you go you of course. I want more stuff like, but the down. That is your not seeing other perspective.
You're, not learning how to compromise or not learning how to communicate. If your itunes, just delivering you country, songs, you go. Music sounds like this like wall that music, you listen to sounds like that. You had to say- and I said that wrong. I guess what I meant to say is that even without that include incredibly complex apparatus, the internet, you would do that without that that sounds kind of what I was I was in the internet just makes it worse as it does that more you yeah yeah yeah, with far more computing power than your brain, but with but already ones buck. S is talk about same Harris's Some good results s Monica now, but he had it. It was Jonathan Height right we had on. He was argument, confirmation by us and he was used basically, what our brains are not capable of being objective. It is really not in our brains and that, even if you give people contrary information that disproves with. Already believe they figure out a way to make it so they already thereafter double down. Yes, indeed, point he made and then goes
the aid, which is he said, but system. Can be very objective and that's why the scientific method work does that's. Why that the community of scientists and peer review that can accomplish something objective, short that if all rely on this system and in the Czechs, our own work and co pilots, ourselves that that you can approach objectivity in that's. Why I like a simply because you have all these other people in Europe believing all this shit, and then you hear someone else's the exact same thing all right. I do that, and then is. This system ends up helping you, but the systems are agnostic, yes, molest. I'm systems are agnostic, but promise at once. You start putting the data can still get results that your own confirmation bias can deny you you honest, could show someone video proof that is in diametrically opposite to what they believe yeah and they will like you said, though, go well, that's fake
Or is there a way to get a letter going on or even care really, but but yet the fact that there are people who firmly believe that when Trump said no, that's not me and those Billy Bush has that that? Oh, it's not him, even though you ve really disheartened yeah right was it's full of people but his inauguration and there's a image were staring, looks looking under Lisbon, no bigger than politics. The idea that there is like a strange, Flattereth Movement, yeah yeah. It's like that. You use that In twenty eighteen year you go like well, ok, we went. No people don't agree on everything politically, but we all know that the earth and their heads. The percentage of people. Now, let me ask you, in his innocence, I'm asking you now to become an arm chair psychologists and do you believe They believe that that's my question: do you really leave. They believe the erstwhile or do you believe that they enjoy being a part of that movement so much they don't give a fuck. That's what I think it's a toss up. I think everyone has the exact same reason. I do believe, and here as well,
I just want to say: never seen it as a bald man pictures, but it but it but again, if someone starts going down the right, rabbit holes and they are open to suggestion that it is not difficult because I do believe conspiracy is the religion of the twenty first century yeah and the reason the conspiracy is. Such a religious thing for people is because the more information it's out there and the more shit that our brains are trying to process the the more for information. There is to create a world that we can understand and in order to do that. We have to fill in gaps so that there are now logic gaps and wit, just it's very much very much the same way that we look back and go the Roman does. He thought there was a little. There was eradicating them stupid, but but people do that
Shit now within the internet is better to take them. Tell those a whole host of board. It will need the explanation I heard for the appeal of conspiracy theories, which really loved. I want to say I heard on the hard core history. If you ever listen, I know the package. Yet it was this that the real some people believe that there are a bunch of people involved with killing. John F Kennedy is that if they accept that one lunatic had the power to change the course of history, that world then becomes too fucking scurried eleven. So it's much more comforting to think that this was an elaborate plot by a lot of smart people there's comfort in that that that is it just too scary and dangerous of a place to know that one idiot can can fuck up it cuz his point was he was. He was tracking back. We think of that. We live in this age of terror,
using this term age, a tyranny that will relieve you look at what were terrorism really started? It's killing Archduke Ferdinand, which then starts world war, one which then causes worldwide to which they, you know you can track every fucking problem. We have to this one act of terrorism and there were conspiracy theories about that, but on a bigger, but on even larger scale. It's the idea that but most people in order to survive are not comfortable, saying I don't know But why is this thing happened? Why is the moon? Why is this? How can I dont know most people? a comfortable yeah because that feel to lay on a network of using weakness too, to say I don't, but it also feels like a wolf nothing has any meaning and everything is random and chaotic than why do anything. In the end, it is nothing I'm seeing the world should go to a, but just the idea of what they should affect us, but I mean, but the idea of
It's ok to not know things, and it's ok to say to people like. I don't know why that is as it I don't know, and we don't know yeah. Maybe we'll know at some point. That's fine! I you know I'm ok with not known for some time. You know, there's a lot on answer questions, but will but at least side was the pursuit of truth, but let's take the nine eleven thing. There's all these nine. A conspiracy theories and for them- and I understand the appeal its way is. It feels much safer to know that the bushes, somehow coordinated this whole thing and that they want to go to warn was an act of this government verses is eight yeah, whose, from all over the Middle EAST, took down the world her. If that's the truth, if eight yeah whose can destroyed at the world. Trade center then were all fuckin vulnerable and then but then again stepping back, because I even see this mentality has blood into
Obviously this is much less serious than what you just said, but I'm just trying to illustrate that it that it goes a clumsy arza writers ago, more serious than I don't know about it, but it goes across. All sectors is even phantom an entertainment people treat like it's a polluted movement and one thing happen on, shows and movies. You see in the Fancy all these concerns. There is that people are a hundred percent convince oh, well, you know the studios did this and I you know what you gotta understand but must feel to know a little. I don't know what the actual facts are, but you're watching all these narratives bill, because people need to us stand by something again: it's because we're becoming While this consumers was not a hundred percent, the way that they wanted it and if in we are not learning how to deal with things as not being a hundred percent, the way that they want it, because so much you like because our need for things to be convenient and what we do. You live in a time where you most the shit, you want it almost of meat and so
something is not exactly how we want at any given moment. You know, never to us how we wanted people flip the fuck out and it not just politics, its entertainment, its food, its anything along those lines of you know the threads on on these message. Boards about shows a lot of times it just bad writing right like that, that they didn't think through a logic, issue, and because they love the thing they now have to make it work lemmings and report back, as the other work backward. So it could just be shitty writing in one episode or tourism glitch in logic, and then now you because you revere this thing you are forced to make it makes sense, but also, but again you know, people Watson. Ego. Something happened on the show. This fuckin dumbness didn't need to happen. You go. We haven't seen the whole series yet so you no ordinary that you haven't seen she don't know or like something happened, and you know when the last STAR Wars movie will you haven't seen the next one? So you don't know what's being set up your colleague, you know why I'm
Why can I watch mostly horror, movies, ok and I'm I've become very forgiving, because most more a lot of hormonal generous make love during those are the eddies. Now we power I am for the northern and then we re resident millions. I owe me I got so, but become very forgiving because alive of horror movies are not great and its because a lot of them are in a very independent and people are doing the best, they million other budget, and so you get very forgiving because its let's go, why the fuck didn't Do this, what to do that? But if you were to talk to the directive, the director might go, Well, we had no money, we lost light yeah an aggregate generated hour of the day we could shoot and then use realizing like. Oh yeah, you you started not king things personally, and everyone takes everything personally, because you realize, like ok, the dirt. You're or whatever the person they weren't just trying to fuck your day,
yeah they weren't, and it goes back to what we were talking about before about thinking that everything is about you. Yes, yes, they had their own set of challenges, and it's just that's what happened, and it was not personal, which I find very comforting, realizing that you know you. You are also just a lover of things which I think is a great thing to aspire to be like you have the show talking dead right. Yes, it's just you. Fucking, love it right. Do you just want to talk about it? That's true I was, I would get shit more so in the beginning, for like we're, not critical of the show Oh, why don't you call things out that our good on the shone, like I'm gonna, theorize something shore? you'd I'll. Let you hire hypothesize, I will become warmer like I've, been on both both ends of this spectrum, which, as you have pretty good self esteem, may right about that. No, I mean, I know what you're saying, but now he is telling you now damn you do have decks hell. Don't donning Krueger me about my. I guess
Let me start. Another angle is clearly on finding purchase that argument. So what I'm going to say is that, as I felt very that that this business we're all in was very out of my reach, who like when you when I met you didn't have shit. Right where I was in the third level, the growlings in you were doing stanza yeah with it. That more no one was coming to shows right. So there is no money, Some days off onto my sister brought over today a pamphlet of a show. I did twenty years ago this August, and it was it- was myself, Melissa, Mccarthy, Ben Falco, net facts and all these people know that are working in such a high tech, stem Ben falconer of photo of advice. We should do our show. This August twenty a reunion- and he said yes, but remember to book I'm too showings and have to cancel, but that is exactly what happened but but when I was very outside of this whole thing that I thought I was never going to be a part of. I was way more critical of that thing, because it was a system that
Didn't include me, so I was trying to find error in that you had to because it it helped. You feel better bout yourself. Yes, because if you have to admit that just maybe you're right to be working at yeah and its puts a lot of pressure on yourself, and maybe sure. Maybe that's true. I would gather information about actors who basically I loved, but I was jealous of and then we'll tell people almost. Mozilla embarrassing, but like This body was my favorite like wedding crisis as disguise amazing. Yet I would tell people that I don't ever. We met the guy, but I would your little things about him, like maybe drinks too much. I tell people that, like I would just do all these is really needed to make sense of why he was famous and successful, and you are now. I just had to have something on him, because I so fucking jealous of him. You now get like puts the ball in your court a little bit, you're, not yeah corps, I'm some little piece of power over this thing. I have nothing to do with so all I'm saying is that you urine very good position to be a lover of things always been that way, though your same a year,
and everything I do like that. My podcast or at midnight or any anything, is all about like celebrating in supporting- and I think I actually have remarkably low self esteem might be myself up by. I get very critical and myself. I always think everyone hates me yeah, it's I don't know by your looks. I'm I'm crazy about him. He had me there, and so, as anybody I don't think I'm crazy. I, like your wife fact check out you'll find out you know, and so you know, people have I've seen something about me about talking it over. The lake we gonna send Hardwicke is contractually obligated, like no one has ever said, I'm not contractually obligated to speak positively of walking dead. I'm now don't have to do anything right. I just choose to be positive, because I love the thing and I'm very cool everyone who makes it an eye like seeing the good and things because, if you, what negative
but it's not hard to find you can find that army. I I honestly applaud and am grateful that you are a up of sir course of positivity. It's really excellent and I struggle with a little home because I'm feeling a spit it out so much in the world than I come home and I just kind of feel bad. You know, I just feel like I'm. Gee. I don't know what I'm nor the fuck I'm doing us, but Iceland and accept that you have lost steam. Ok, but I am going to ask you to compare your current self esteem to your self esteem when you- and I first man well dramatic- We differently, as that was so tainted by alcohol, depression is well sure yeah I mean I'm not on medication, for it or anything, but I, but I recognise when I'm going through right, like you know a little, I am fortunate enough that it's not to the extent that I can't function or again get out of bed or I can't you know talk to my wife like I just I have it to a degree where I feel that sort of it just feels like
there are weights on your soul and there's no bright light. Yeah in the future is is gonna, be worse than the. That's exactly right, yeah, that's exactly right! So, but at the time it was, I was just so clouded by I can't even say exactly how I felt because none of it was real right. So a day one of getting sober verses. Now it were I mean I want. I want to be able to use user data point my mile sure, overarching theory that, if were alike and we met at the same time. We both had drinking Brahms at the same time, so we and we had a mutual girlfriend or share your Verona so there's some similarities Andrews ever about that here, whose amazing, by the way we love we lot yet that is like we can applaud her more absolute she's, brilliant and she helped you get. We're really supply really they. I essentially kind of over the rest of my life yeah. She was the person that said you have it. The problem, you really need to figure it out. I'm not gonna. Stick around like she, the strength of character to say, like
I'm not here, to be your nurse. I'm not gonna, stick for it. She was already has an incredible. She also influential to me with that. So yes, she's she's, amazing yeah, but I assume or I'll just ass, you did. Did you tell yourself, because I told myself if I had accomplish these certain set of things and I had a certain amount of money I was gonna, feel good chairs, convinced of it yeah. That? But that is that's that thing- that I feel it a joke about a lot, which is this sort of the filling the whole thing where there is a whole in you. That is not related to the external world, but you will try to fill it with external things. Yes, and it's almost like there. Two different plains of existence, and so you can throw money their success or alcohol or sex whenever there and that'll stuff just off it is through the hall yea and it doesn't fill it. It just fall through the hall and all the stuff that fills the whole. Is you
getting to know yourself better for giving yourself. Oh it's like it's all of that. Annoying self help for me like when I, when I broke down that word self esteem and surfing like oh self, esteem comes from an do Venus De Mobile lacks you know and, as you do things that are related to status in money and all these things when you got your way to fucking help, somebody that is inconvenient to you. You, you came to my progress a year, the busiest person I barely now when you drive on tonight whether you enjoyed this are not your brave you're, gonna good that you you help me today, no I'm I'm totally happy too dear, but I guess you baby, but it's nice you're observers to me today in and I hope you feel good because of that definitely area has contribution. They believe they can t meeting to society to contributing to your community feels good, because that is the real connection points. It's not necessarily what your standing in their community is, but you, if you feel like you
they contributing than your connected because a few contributing you have to be connected and that being that, that's being up part of something and while you're doing those things, it's kind of hard to be thinking about yourself as much as I would like to your left to my oh yeah, I didn't get a funny. There can weirdly be selfish reasons why you are contributing for to help other we should know what feeds me. At the same time, an randy in that believe. I do think you old familiar doing everything selfishly, but that's ok, but yeah when you, when you're tired of hearing your friends problem about there marriage or whatever. It is really hard to think about yourself in it's. It's a fucking nice relief to start thinking about yourself yeah yeah yeah. It really is necessary here, because we only two fucking break from thinking about our. So I now for this fuckin guy right here, so you wrote a self help book I did and what? What is the theory of that book? this sort of looking at the way the kind of
no one. I know it's an over use term, but the sort of the way the nerd brain works somewhat. The nerd brainier sinner brain common misconception experience go what's a nerd and I was there. I think it too, matter, whether you like STAR Trek or actual figures or YE sports or whatever it is, but the nerves is basically an obsessive brain unnaturally obsessing over something but not just obsess but also the level of understanding like a true nor brain will try to understand something deeper than any other living creature. I had a lot of cases like use that information against other creatures, but in general, is really true. To understand the nature of something better than than any one else. Yes, and so, when I quit drinking, I realise that I do obsessed, four things- and I do this unnatural ability to focus on things, and while I was working on that, I realized like well, maybe like we're time an earlier, maybe that weakness is actually an asset.
I know how to unnaturally focus on things, maybe, instead of focusing on hating myself and drinking and destructive behavior. I will focus on constructive things. I will focus on creating thing, I want to be a part of so that it this is while I'm learning about. Why am obsessive about things at least the things that I will be obsessing over our constructed and will be beneficial so it so. It's tangley like that laser is that your brain has over thing, that. You really are passionate about you. Can you, that's too your advantage and capitalize on the anxiety in the obsession and try to flip it, so they you are sort of forcing it to work for you rather than to basically destroy you and you have descriptive action. You recommend cause it sure here's another grating. We heard the other day that we, the wireless nobody s about a guy who's. This guy he's a New York Times, journalist or something but he's he's on numerous
It is lived a certain way for a couple years as an experiment than wrote about it, so he lived biblically for two years like line but little rolled biblical, he try to become healthy scandal or, at any rate he said his conclusion ever doing. All these things is that it is a lot easier to act, your way into changing your thinking than to think you're the changing your actions- and I think that's a very powerful thing so when you, when you're trying to use your powers for good what what physically? Are you doing like what? What steps does one take today, well, so it's very helpful to collect data to understand how you approached the world, because most people just sort of live they sort of believe that life just kind of guides them wherever there going. Happen to me for this area and I think a lot of people don't realize that even very microscopic level, there are very quick choices all I mean, I'm not I'm not trying to sell it a privilege It's a shit to say that everyone brutally raped organisms is excluded.
And yes, nor any any any too horrible tragic thing. That has befallen you, I'm talking about racial, I'm talking about like little things dated eight someone's at a job. They hate me go man, of course, this you know yeah fuck didn't get that promotion. This happens. This happens to me all the time. Then you sort When I look at my eye, what time are that we all talk about my own myself? Why was I not working? Why was I not getting opportunities well cause one hates me or I'm not this or I'm not famous enough remnant. This circle, back and I am looking to go right. I did make the choice to drink every day I make the choice to play a video game instead of working on side when it had an audition. If I was making little choices that I didn't realize were choices right, but then getting angry at the result as part of a bigger conspiracy, yes, and so, when I started doing was tracking, like one but why do in a day and night? I would time that, like a, why did you know this and this from this
under this time and then I went down a rabbit hole of looking at squirrel videos on Youtube from this time. To this time. Following a game of this information is oh well now that I have this data. I can manipulate this data and I have more with minimal you're, getting an honest account of what the fuck your dealings. Actually? No one now you're my most of the time? These do things very mindlessly because you're on autopilot yeah and but then I realized like oh. I can start to pilots, this ship bits and I can obviously I can't control things that happened in the external world, but I can control how Irene two things. How I responded things I can change where I got my energy during a day I can end, and so I basically justice I just started accumulating data until I realized I gotta much better understanding of how I approach things and how I do things because it allowed me to then May changes in those areas and move things around sort of as modular units to them
start making healthier choices and then, when you, Start making healthier choices it it has its own remit. Has its own momentum like I was sailing. You know it. Is really do reveal themselves to you when you are, the right questions yeah, but you Can I get all the answers at once and once you start down, the path is like, you said how you noticed you were living very toxic life, so you always noticed fights area when you start living a healthier life, you start noticing healthier things. If that's what you're tuned into our brains, you can t your brain, to focus on anything. If I say to you like that, look at that EL, the Color Brown is everywhere. You look around the room and to look at that frame. Look at the picture that great day. Look at that lampshade! Look at that! That's all you're gonna, see because that's how your brain, guitar, Mozart, then I'd better, go. I think it's better off its it. I thought it was like particular activation system, are there some part of the brain? It sees what you are focused on everywhere yeah. I have come
to think of my mind and well being the same way. I think of my body now, which is my body, will never be in a state of homeostasis. It won't just stay this way. It is he they're getting shit here or it's getting better. I either have to him. You know I mean they're working out and you'd better men are better or stop doing. Things are getting worse and clever things in a state of growth, growth or death. Exactly insarov as UK, I should say yeah and when you start thinking about your own mental fitness, that way of like oh, I e they. As you say, you make this one choice early in the morning and that that potentially will lead another good choice later in the afternoon and so on or the verses. I start my day and I need a falcons more bread, a bunch of bad decisions, are properly enforced. Royal big, because also a lot of things that you think our emotional are actually physiological zone if you are, if you are sedentary or if you wake up in the can you use pull out a sugar in your body. It's gonna win
Your mood is in when it affects your mood. It affects the choices that you make when it affects the choices that you make. It affects your life and the lives of those people around you, and so it really is not that hard to see that if autumn mean If, on a Monday, you make a really bad, place and you just keep making those choices over. Never gonna just creates in its snowballs, and comes your reality. You do you happen to read Sapiens or Harmodius now of the second book. Nowadays goes allowed into this notion of self right. We think of ourselves as being of that, being one thing self myself it when in fact you have a minimally to cells, one of them being, your experience yourself and then one being your narrow file and then your narrative, south you're right. So so the eggs, oriental self will be on your phone looking at Facebook, and you can do that for three hours in your your very happy doing that. That's either that your experience is up, but then you go
bed at night- and you are now running the story of your life in the new year- evaluating that deigning of management, three hours staring at Facebook and now that self is very unhappy with the experience yourselves choices and I do think like being cognisant which self are you servicing is useful, ok so what you just said right. There's the idea of writing shit down, not just collecting data, but if you were to ask most people what they want. A lot of I couldn't tell you what they want. They know they just want more of something here that they think is going to make them beer and so that data. When you write down like an eye very adept at writing, down goals like daily yeah and seeing where I was that being open to change and flexible, because you can change you can change idea, but writing down. What do I want? While I want this this in this, and then you say why do I want those ladys reason you do? That is because you might find out you Actually want the things that you think because of what is required of you too.
Try to manifest those are you kind of when you circling? Oh, this is really the nature of this thing on a really want that yeah. So it's understand it, but I think the most Potent thing to remember is that what were, you believe about yourself is true your brow it is designed to answer any question that you throw at it and if you ask it bad quest, it will give you bad answers. Why do I fail why my piece of shit you? Why do I always do this? Why does everyone hate me? Welcomes your diamond, cozier, ugly and cause you don't you have no talent, you know, but if you say why, how can I do this better? What can I learned from it? It it given powers you to get the data that you need to then you know been. The second decided that as this is the g I Joe knowing is half the battle, the other have the battles actually applying that long year, one of my pet peeves as people who start a lot of sentence with I'm the type of person who blank and I feel like people, say the type of person than they are. Quite often it's not the type
a snare and there's a line and aid which is, I was upset that people were always judging me from my actions and not my intention as a threat. Oh, my god, that's exert yards rise, like that. You know what you think. You are what you ve physically fucking dude, you shop on time for work or not that's exactly I was talking about earlier, where people online will always argue it you about their intentions and not their action. Yes, and I always say to them, like your intentions, do not justify your approach or not. Goodnight daily it doesn't matter people I was just trying to. Oh, I was just trying to is my least favoured fuckin radiator. It's usually uses excuse rather than saying like. Oh maybe I was mean, or maybe I did something that caused this situation, or maybe I it it. Basically, it doesn't
except the responsibility when you go. I was just a very very simple say I would like to be K, audibly evil. Today you know most people have good intentions, yeah just for whatever their whatever they think they need to do. But what was your action? What did you do? Collecting collecting that data is so valuable because it allows you to see yourself from outside active what the out it into the material universe. You able to look at it a little more objective, Leah and go unity which is numbers. So it's kind of dissipation by nature, just right here, the numbers guy dispassionately, I would urge you had better now. I guess they just and passionate nature is my record. It doesn't matter how bad I regretted it the second I started it you're improv training. She would have told me,
Commissioner, we are instead and environment forced to fucking, yes, yeah yeah. I did, I would add to say: oh my god, I saw you guys in Lana you're fucking great. I don't love your third song in the set but yeah, then I would have to I would have to yes and whatever that song was entitled by workers. Egg is one I just want to publicly say: you're you're someone and have a ton of admiration for both, because a kind of put you in the South Myerst category I have in my head of peace, who, like fucking, work there I'll thanks man, I just your smart in your messages, wonderful in India, and all that you're you're very open and willing to talk about the soup penis that led to all this, which I think is very help. I love I like talking about it, not just because I like to hear my voice, but also in addition to that I hold forth. Nonetheless, a path that both
The reason that I like talking about it openly is number one. It is helpful for me to talk about it out loud but number two. If anyone is able to extrapolate, even one molecule of anything, a helpful from the door, mistakes and stupid choices I have made or the way that I then too, yeah I sort of feel like that is the that is great yeah, that it's me happy if someone else here some angle- oh my god, I thought about that or you said something really stupid, which reminded me that I say something really stupid, and so you know he S. So it's I'll. It's just the same reason that you sponsor people of the same year and its community and again I can identify with you beating yourself up over something you set at a party. I can't actually identify with the emperor Are you run? So if you want to come here and talk about that, because you do you have this, do you have this crazy, impressive empire in? If you are here today By that I mean I own greater? I don't fucking empire here, really do anything, but but didn't
you know you think you're looks are so so do you you know you? Second guess everything say to somebody that is hugely inspirational: bad timing to picture people that I just assume like, while everyone else that they are about to get tapped on the shoulder and asked to leave the party. Yes, even though it's easy for me to talk openly about it, I fall prey to it constantly. Ere. I get caught my head about some thing on the internet or something- and you know my my wife- is They very she's, very optimistic positive person, and then a kind of rain on the parade, because I'm stuck in my head about something- and I then to take a minute ago- oh doing the fucking thing. Your stick dime due to determine the old cloudy Chris Hardwicke Stick, and even though, even though you know, I think, I'm so right about something and I'm so justified, and in no you kid,
you know anybody is amazing. It going like she's one of the book. Cause people I know, but she's also not by any means a doormat like she's, very accommodating, but she is also not afraid to go well. There are two people in this, relationship, and just because you are a certain type of experience right now does not mean that we both should have an experience that go right right, yeah right. I so relate to that. In fact, I now through a lot of practice when I feel my
of building an intellectual case against something that my had. I now go, that's a red light. Your feelings are Broadway her or you are fearful that I am not exactly how long a yes, but I can feel myself preparing my opening statement to something decrease the mega. Oh, that's a bad sign. That means I'm scared of somebody view if you at all think the words exhibit a higher and it s time for you to go. Take fifteen minutes just think about it. Maybe what you're scared of almost every day some dinner scared of a memo every workers? Thank you so much for coming. They wanted to live from your how I know- and I like that- I don't come on and am glad that you're doing a pike s because they again the more personal use. Perfect and funny, and the more people that are willing to talk about this types of stuff mental illness and talk about it and very normal way. It did just sort of diesel Matanzas it for people who feel like I'm
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You were not ass. You may want to pay for this by gas. The least we could get some teachers share. That says pets. Opiates or something can you send as drugs and I can prevail. Some idea. May I want her to experiment with that she's sick and pass on? What are your products used? What did you say yeah? They send me some some loose on shoes, fancy chocolate. Elsa one mail me a ferrari and talking about professional bowling, oh yeah. This was, I found this to be the most fascinating act of Chris Hardwicke snores. You kept calling it a bowling out. You will not work, don't you know he kept, calling it a bowling centre which no one in the world calls at that, and I finally said why the fuck are you calling? It then remains a bowling ailing. You owe me Ok, now you that's what they call you roll the bald on an alley. That's what the laying happen,
as a derogatory leaving a pejorative. I now has a derogatory connotation. Does battle shit no shit, happens and announce that most of them will get murdered. Half a bouquet raised books are set in an alley. That's where you wanna, be that's where the actions happening. That's where the stories are created. Warsaw top at I get to a fact. I got okay, so emperor professional and Chris estimated that that the amount of money current professional boys are making is equivalent to back. Then, when his dad bald like he thought it hadn't change guy and he thought the highest people were would be making around two hundred fifty two three hundred thousand and according to the profession, a bowlers association, the highest paid bowler last year, and one hundred and sixty eight thousand two hundred in Burma
I fear the best said something in the world. Now we get it, we gotta get that up. That's how on professional Bali body building was prior to sorts nigger taking over those things, so when he won the Mr Universe I think he one five cents and then he took it over and then the now that prize monies up in that unites us agnostic, some here. What do you know he times, as I stated that it went down why? I assume that parallels America's interest in bowling. Certainly it's gone now from the time as true he, his dad still holds the record for total pins in an eight black game well really, then, in how many barely hard with Billy Hardwicke, he rolled eight games in let me just set the bar, so heavy, bold, a perfect three hundred in all eight games. He could have got a possible score of twenty four hundred points that what did he get. Two thousand one hundred and sixty yeah, That's him restive yeah, its basic alike,
rolled seven three hundred names that twenty one while good for bill. I now there was a name was Billy Hardwicke Billy Hardwicke about Billy's, don't like being called bill palate and I know it sounds completely different- you let it closely and will give you rumbled. I'm one is like the sheriff yeah Bill, Bergmann or Billy the kid racing with the moon. You said you didn't know who got whose girlfriend pray many of those two naw- you warm in Zaire right now. I think that Nicholas Cage got his group. Yeah now you know how going measures. One of these things were. I bet if we release and I'm not sure I agree with you. I promise you said he said,
no no wise are an asset of sore, wasn't cages, character, yeah and he played Mickey in the movie rang his characters. Name was Nicky. I've never seen a anchor. I thought, maybe, though you when you will search assorted Mickey, you probably did us. I'm gonna be very forthcoming sake. This fact check happened. And he may be a month ago. I don't mean the illusion of the hidden behind it as a year ago. I really do all we can do with you. What else ok, map Malcolm Gladwell chapter on Dyslexia, is in David and Goliath. Ok, you should remember that the brain yeah, I'm a great way. It's great, I'm so gonna run out of my little to no they're like what'd Hardwicke. These non eight hundred pack answer some crazy to either. That number I mean: what on earth? Is you anything
say he was repeated known. Charismatic was when I was in a stern stearns, tells the same exact story about his fuckin mom and dad. I love it every time yeah, I think everyone likes it, but also he and I know because I like him so much Hardway, yeah yeah. He doesn't really just goes off what his guest, because his gas are gonna, bring new information every yeah right, yeah he's much better at that. Then me, as I said in my earlier intro, that you might amiss, but it has been pointed out to me then I do in Europe, people too much and maybe even talk too much, but anyways he's great at not doing either those things. I don't think you do those these things, but I think that he doesn't. He does a good job of listeners, gas and then diving, yeah, yeah yeah, he's grated
Ok, now all we were sort of unclear on the bukovsky quote said: the quote: is the problem with the world? Is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence for good quality really got close here, like the distorted with the problem of the world like peace me, God, as his narrative, drowning arriving and he's right, is virtually right. Yeah Alec, as we must have been talking about the Dunning Gruber effect, I think south. Yet he discovered it before sociologists actually put some data behind it. He made that exact observation. Yeah is actually we talked about the flat earth movement and and the percentage of people who think that at this black, my couldn't find the exact percentage, because their two fuckin stupid
I answer a survey right exact, but there was an article. I feel fine that we said that you re earlier. Writing about your offended, the idle that God, I think, you're stupid receiving the earth is what in our view of his seiners suckers. I couldn't find the exact percentage, but there was an article in the economist that said America's flat earth movement is actually owing oh, I believe that, as I never heard a thing about it now, I constantly hearing it yeah, that's ache. Data from Google trends show that in the past year, surface for Flattereth had more than tripled Oh that's. A little dangerously can be misleading, because what the fuck is a lot of people. Like me, Are you trying to figure out how many do faces outlay iraqi? I bet the amount of searches for terrorism has gone up a time in that doesn't mean terrorism has gone, the time here's what here's one Ambracia with we
all seen the photo of earth from the moon guy or from the satellites and sewed there. I guess what they're saying is: look it's a circle, but what they're not acknowledge? all the continents are not on that circle. So, where the rest of the fucking continents there on the air when they think it's on the other flat side, there's something battle and they're saying, like I'm actually there winning by us even talking about I know there are saying something so fucking stupid and worth spending energy trying to dissect how they could possibly think that there are now they want the terrorist one those are okay and talking about nine, eleven speaking la reorganization, this you mention, yeah, whose you called them here: who's who sat down the World Trade Center, but there actually nineteen hijackers all on the plains. Nineteen hijackers that yeah really Ochreous three
planes for right for yeah yeah three succeeded: one did not in so in each plain. Or Santer, yeah yeah, that's interesting. I also thought that some of them didn't make it like that they were all in Florida. Together. I think they d trained fly at someplace in Florida up somewhere in they got their winter hooters or something there is one part of the the story that was, I hung. It doesn't seem in keeping with this movement that it also, but a dies. So, yes, they were at a hooters or something in town and draw up a little gun was wrong, yet they were drinking which, of course, my interpretation of Sri allows your knowledge drink then. So there drinking and they were at a excuse. My french, almost titty bar, and then they yeah a little ironic. But yes, I I think some of them. It make about tomorrow night at I I mean look. If, if I were going to die the next day, I would perhaps
gotta, get hammered even opened sober, yeah yeah. I would a hundred percent get hammered yeah. Ok, you reference the age, Jacob SAM Harris Pad task, which I think you may have already referenced. But I'll just say
The key word name has not ring a bell me agent, I'll get some saying one is. He is the one that says act your way to change, instead of think you're way to change your at this. Probably you probably said that and then and I'm crediting, let's from Asia Jacobs on SAM Harris Part cast yeah the guy who wrote the books allowing weird things for the living biblically right exactly okay- and I made a note- I fact check this already and gave a little more contacts contacts on set greens episode. So if anyone is interested, they can pop over the sub over. Ok, so this was so interesting, crap would have. Let me put a bomb, yeses can be juicy shit, get a new pair,
I got back up areas. He was Timon hisself help like you can train your brain to see the world differently than you do currently, and he was saying you know you there's a thing that happens in our brain, where, if you somewhat, as Lord Brown Use automatically, are seeing everything I said that's called Khatami automobile wronging you're wrong about? I am yeah. What is it Thelma Breed told me that I'm gonna blame her for their ok Mara them leaved it. It is. Skin Toma is a partial loss of vision or a blind spot so it's a bit use metaphorically it. He asked the now literally means a blinds, literally means of lions happen. If you have like I've, never seen a shower said that I have a pop culture. Scatter mama bear so and be used as a generally. I ok, so how I was explained to me and how I understood it and I have looked at another. You say, and I realise that it wasn't at all what I thought it was. But then this is how we find my way back to her. So Bree explained to me is
you ve, never noticed how many Bmw's are on the road. You buy a Bmw and always in euros alma get. Everyone has seen cars me, so it is in that context we use Khatami was up previously to owning it. Yours guitars, you are unaware of how many Bmw's we're on road and then you buy you by one and then reverses risk a Tom, I guess yeah. I guess I got a fan of your use. Well targeted the actual the actual thing you're talking about called cod, Bayer Mine, half phenomena that such Germany does aware. Vader Mainhall, also known as frequency allusion frequency, Loser taste is tired, I've used them so much since I did this backtrack, so they'll German, one again, Vader Mine, half bather mine path here and there, and so that is that when you, when you hear something or season, they learn something new it pops up everywhere.
Bathing mind how yeah now just behaviour mine harm they do my mouth goodness. Okay, this is a terrible idea added. Did you learn vacates so by Mister Denzil, Bostock there's more about their place, because this really interesting. So that happens because of our brain. The recent see effect in our brain and Chris had mentioned this. The ridiculous, but he caught the particular activation centre in our brain rule. Is that is connected to their. So that's a part of our brain. The basically keeps pieces of information relevant pieces of information and because we can only hold so much at one time. Aha week, our conscious mind can only hold sway more than a hundred pieces of information. Every second do yeah interesting yeah. So there are tickets. Unlocked though it is a lot going so much more than that you're, so the particular
innovation system filters through the things that should stay in the things that were exactly there are certain types of information that always get through the gates of our S over, so the sound of your name being called anything that threatens your safety view or loved ones. And an indication from your partner concerning sex, mistress, hearts right through them. The bull hit ever get still turn out. That's it always rages. You ya interest. If you're, if that party brain is working, I guessed right said I mean those are things that your brain is considering the most important sensory.
Yeah absence here, yeah, so your safety and make sense sacks that makes sense and what was the first name, your name yeah, that's peculiar, because what a late bit of evolution, the brain right, because we didn't vocalize names for so long in our resolution that sir, relatively new or thing us be our languages ya interesting. So that must be one of the last part of our brains that a bald yeah yeah interesting ever that that's That's it. That's all! Oh well, that was grey and informative and a parting words for Chris in case we know, he's not gonna, listen to it, but now is nine million up and we know he's married has another issue. Your wife is very lucky. You that's a great way to and I wish I were your wife
now. These are part out. Obviously what I now I was lucky it we're lucky to have had him on the air. I love. I hope you have crushes on many more guess I well it's ok. Can I.
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