Joel McHale (The Soup, Community, The Joel McHale Show with Joel McHale) is an American comedian, actor and television host extraordinaire. Joel sits down with Dax to discuss his childhood diagnosis of “slow starter,” the trap of overcommitment and the hang up’s that come from working in reality TV. Joel impresses Dax with his stature and Dax opens up a controversial conversation about societal punishment. The two talk about the evolutionary benefit of dyslexia, their mutual experience with short-term memory loss and it is revealed (spoiler!) that they are actually the same person living in two bodies.
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Broken arm chair expert, I'm Dac Shepherd, I'm joined by my friend Monica Badman Boil boy: do we have a tall guest today Tal drink a lot, a real tall, slurp, a water in a muscular slurp at the ethic water? Yet I don't think they were realised when they see Jewel Mikhail on the television set or on a billboard on the side of the road. Just how Beazley is new areas he's gigantic right, not just in his eye? he's very in his heart broad, he has a big swore heart, but he's very broad and dance he's quite muscular, it's really overwhelming and in person, and I'm intimidating. Yet, despite that, we were able to have a really lovely conversation. I assume you know Joe all from they eat. The previous show design soup, and he was also a community He has a new show on Netflix that I just arms
just visiting my mom for six days in a rather unfortunate circumstances and am I ploughed through seven episodes of his show- do all Mikhail show with Job Macao, which of course is a great tied on in God. Damn is that she'll watchful eye was Putnam back I've got Doritos or oriented and milk year. It was it's really really funny and a move that quite a clip both you and your lovely. Why had had been on that? We both know. John back last Friday, I found a little bit that all air- I not even certain when, but throughout the years we ve always been social jaw. We ve teamed up on trying to get someone elected to school board, superintendent, he's very philanthropic tandem. We get a call from him quite often and he gets caught
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Joam Garral walked into the armchair expert. I can't believe I'm here. Thank you so much. I didn't have a nigger up, I'm gonna hop in several neck aurettes, because I want a match. Your energy and I know you have spectacular energy Lazarus real, but that's from my cocaine tablets how you have cooking. Yes, they does all that was. Stevie, Ravens thing. You know that about him. Now he didn't snored at he put it in his whisky, drank it and everything going, hunky, Dory and then all of a sudden, his like stomach rod about yeah yeah that'll, do it. It seemed like a hat gas, cocaine hack, so that your nose with Ray still are putting cocaine in your body so but you still are putting cocaine in your body. So but if is a safe way to do it and wants the issue. I wonder if they cause. I know it is true that former cocaine users, if they were heavy cocaine, users typically ass. They have well yesterday with the delta with listen now, but they have heart problems
a car users, yeah yeah, so yet he fell. In fact, I have been to a cardiologist, as you know, I'm I didn't know you, you don't know, I'm an ax coke attic. I knew that you are a drinker. yeah, but I hear cook attic, one hundred Thank you. I never met you during that time. That was before I was on basic cable. I was not well yeah. I had about a year of having some success and still being an attic. So has your heart Well, so I went to a cardiologist and I guess what can happen. I'm sure there's more extensive damage that can happen, but the circuitry between your brain in your heart can get a little dicey and has yours, and why does want to tell everyone just happened, because they won't know that you just slipped off rob. You are producer whose very kind personalities from Chicago suburb oh, never mind
dad is rich cargo and he said neighbor who was just farmland. Now it's huge town metropolis with great high schools. I don't understand if you read devil in the white city. Yes, isn't that great? It is so good and I would love to I. I know that there was Leonardo Dicaprio's, Caprio Gonna play him and all that should really not make it a movie. You should make it a heart SIRI. Yours two all right: there isn't very few books that can do two subjects at one side, the writer tells to stories that that the history of the Chicago World, Fair and the eighteen nineties, or something rights on the the what yes it was called the way said he and are still a few run out of it today, and it was the world fair that immediately followed that they be unveiling of the Eiffel Tower in Paris, so that the stakes were incredibly high, that they had to do some spectacular thing. They didn't know what to do and at the time they had about a year to build it right and they had to deal with sugar
The winters will not turn out to get through the soil here, even right Europe. These are the same guys. They figured out how to put tall buildings in downtown Chicago or, to me, that's the third element of that book, which is fascinated at the early architecture of skyscrapers. Yet, is that they were born in Chicago, not analyse. Everyone thought what, because the ground in Chicago in this was in part, because he had to make this huge foundation to build these huge buildings and Chicago did not have that right. the lantern yes secured. So I figured out how float these buildings ass a ball. The buildings and unstructured literally floating bet, they're just counterbalance I so they just the fact. And I like them other book to what then it would mean that they will describe the parties they would throw win. This affair was going in there and they would go well. he brought in for elephants and butcher those and then moroccan soldiers was easy. I, like the dude,
Does it gave me a ton of gratitude for the time we live and because you you don't realize what it was like to live in a city that he did all the buildings would call and provided light with oil lamps, our gas, play whole city was city, everyone's coughing, everyone, him fuckin black long and then the other thing you realize to is that the I'll call the protagonists in this book he's a murderer. He lets go with antagonist Would it using our euro? I guess maybe now it was my hero? What's wrong with you? I'm here. What what did you really Margaret all your cash undisguised disguised doing great. You know we learn about him emperor, so you just kind of I don't know muscle memory told me he was our here, but at any rate he would just shut up assume people's identity be like. Oh, I'm, I'm I'm I'm bearing on their son. The people on the pharmacy, I'm their son, don't worry about me in no way to prove who you are
now now and then he just killing people and then he's ready letters of their family going a move to California and then there's no way flagged up the mood of order, because you can't call them. Yes, you can write a letter, it's got a fucking go through Panama, shed a beat a here before he would marry people take their property or kill them and then have their property and sell that Will there be a moon above, if I remember this greatly moved above a pharmacy does as a rent her and then kill both the people on the fire, messy and is assumed ownership? Never like they're they're gone there, there that's your here! he's my he's got a poster behind a great book, Belgrade, eight, real and that author Lars lesson is Larsson from Seattle. Washington, visa waiver is a number of great books. In fact, they can gather that stuff together and put it into a narrative. I'm just like those of the most people are a hundred and fifty times smarter than me I'll. Absolutely I read this book called the dark matter in the times.
force a how'd, you the signs book and I was so bad at science and then I heard the woman interviewer much she might be able to make remember I made earlier, and I read it and why can't read? I just listen to everything. sheep. I was like all these crazy concepts. Team broken down for me and was of only if this was the way I could have access to something I am sure you will it's not unlike our job, which is it requires a very bizarre combination. things right, but I'm confused by your job, because this house, wherein is a piece of shit on me? What do you do all does and what we're gonna get to my house and the fact that you had to wade through money to get up here today it looks like their house was attacked you guys yet indefinitely. No, but I think you're right in that actors. Do You would do they think all you need to be good at acting. Well, that's not John! You have to kind of being entrepreneur and you have to
a self starter, there's no like manual to how to do well at the end, so I'm sure the best actors of all time never ever acted cuz. It required this. Other weird skill set, which is like self promotion, showing absolutely or you already. They realize their. Only I mean if their act or say in the middle ages were it just a married Mary bands of actors, we'd love to put
morality tail for you? Do you have not read and I'm on broad for us in our rail? That's what they will do these play, where they would teach you land, but do that this aim is minstrels like one Bateman yells, but basically they had to demean or look at court gesture that their job was staying alive each day, like only paced the king off to a certain point. Well in this goes back even further, if you want to get into our evolution, which is we have this uncanny capacity to remember stories and tell stories, because we didn't have the written word for so long and our culture is what makes a successful and animal right. We ve given up so much of our brain space so that we can learn right. We come out of the way, We can't do a goddamn thing. We gotta learn how to do everything, so we have to have a way to convey all this information. So we have this crazy capacity for story so well in Managua announced stories wherever you can also make the argument. We are using our whole brain because, up until just a few things
some years ago, while not units at less than we spend most of our day, going don't die, stay one programme have shelter, avoid that, I would the boils on his face. Who seems right dying so he gave was survival and I mean: did the people cross mountain ranges wearing one blanket and, and so every day was a new adventure in living yeah and were in a constant state of Romeo. This is our biggest problem. Is the cultures China stay thin, yeah jar? You drive, did you, you drive up to Washington however, I have many times right by with kids, we haven't as much ok, I'm still doing, and I'm a glutton for punishment.
So we just drugged organ over Christmas right always when I'm driving through grants pass. I think it is that the tall passed between organ in California, I think, Jesus Christ, man coming through here in a fucking wagon with no roads. How can they? How did they do it? I can barely get through. You know. I never get the kids in the carpets, knowing that you're you're, starting to think I'm stupid at any responsible, should have flown up. Why? I put my family in this situation in wherein we have airbags. Yes, I wonder what would you feel like you would alloys fuck man, I'm gonna go out to California. You guys are coming with me. How many times on the trip You're like and the worst human being ever look. When I'm putting my family through we're gonna die. yeah. Also I could find some gold out there somewhere or yeah. You think about all of our answer about specially irish and you're. Not
region, norwegian and Irish. What like a fuckin look at two. Thank you really difficult to my great grandfather left. He was up than thin the norwegian part of that where pungent or we just limp, and he left that you went to L a silent, his life. Name was smear Balkan and their ways are. They went to the narrow, like what you last name. Unease like Jackson said just think about, like known, not only I'm leaving where I'm from I'm leaving my family. I have no money, oh and I don't even want my fucking last name over Maya starting so new, and what did he do? A move to Fucking Juno Alaska, which at that point I leave Fuckin Finland go to Juno Alaska, they had gold and fish, you could start a life, and that was when the gold of the companies. the gold mines there. They were just killed the sheriff. If they got me trouble thunder they had the leverage to something like my grand for them into some sort of frontier shoe.
Doubts and he was like bad just go fishing and a journal or learning liner Amor. Would there be greater red? Yes, fucking journals at a great Juno Alaska, then what are always like, I'm gonna, an innocent lover at any point or a newbie. No. You know that's exactly what I jumped to why yes, even louder invited into an igloo. I guess that's what I'm so, there's no igloos in June Juno, you know as you know it all a much further down, It was almost didn't invite you here for geography. Well, just because it's the one thing you don't know a thousand, I am to be bad martyrs furs. Juno is a Juno is weighed down midway through British Columbia, our province of planetary. Go to your mother. Canadian! Is this? Why you your ear she fanciers canadian amiable arm largely aware of it, but I just want to make a personal attachment to Europe beast you're you're,
a very imposing physical beast. Well, are you too did forget you're the one who is our as isn't whom she him. Yes, you were. You are so back story. Jos Gonna, be here. One thousand and thirty, and I thought around one thousand and ten. What's a gentle way to just remind him, I don't want to accuse you of having forgot, but I thought appsolutely should accuse me, because this is a conversation I have with my wife ah daily a hotbed, but I dont know you well enough to know whether Europe, if you're lighted, the rock of Gibraltar, if you're gonna, have I can count on you. I don't know that side of you yet so I thought I was gonna. Do a gentle doesn't seem like I'm saying, hey, remember I! So how did it come off? Because I think I see if you get confused came off exactly like this is a very my way to remind today and not next write her, but I can't like even on we are scheduled to spring break and with books flights. We all that and then Sarah
My the loveliest super gourd. You have no idea how lucky I am and she's so wonderfully responsible and an adult. She goes a genius. It says you're going San Antonio in the middle of our ring rank, and I was like What do we get to that when we get into this The constant deal overcome at oh yeah. It's an actual problem that I need counselling on it's like I'm, constantly being electrocuted. I cant open my hand, do what do you think that stems from? Is it? Is it co dependency, or is it like an adjustment, eternal optimism that everything will work out? I think the competitiveness and aggressiveness of the business that we ve chosen when you first are young here, and I arrived here when I was twenty nine, which now
I looked back and I've that basically fourteen to make you feel like you're playing catch up because you had arrived. I love absolute later and identifiable. Yes, and I didn't know the rules, there aren't any rules, you you go into it and when it starts working, you like right, you just gotta, keep going. Now you you fill up the whole thing, we work your and then you and then by last in the last two years, community entered the soup and great indoors were cancelled in community, can have reached its end and we ended the streaming servers of Yahoo screen it we went succeeds, but at they I basically didn't you have is dug job. So I was a rare. Let's go hit the stand, a brutal united started, looking stand up and, and my wife like you, get ease off younger nine, a thirteen year old and unlike right, bright right. If I just before the vote, let's go back, ignoring, go, get some shoes and which is not healthy and whereas, at the end of May
the lively like gal. You really entertain those folks in in Edmonton that one time, but you gotta but yeah- you weren't there for your kids YA soccer game. They are but I'll, be there from peace plan for bold Massa, one of the south. Can we great? Oh, that's. A juicy topic lags like all: ok, there's no had on head yeah, but I had seven conventions on the skull. not immediate, rang a motorcycle right jack? That's what do you shut the fuck up now? Well, we're gonna find motorcycles. Do I am I think, about this a lot lately. I think I'm forty three one, forty five, forty six, forty six Monica was thirteen and rob these twenty to correct.
But I think early in my career, I was so hungry because, unlike you, Eddie come your early, but I had ten years of audition, never got a fucking thing. So when I had an opportunity, let like jumped that plate glass window, you got it I'll. Do it, and then I was you know, but but that's not the most appealing personality type to maintain anything for a long time, so I've I've really kind of think about that a lot so republic. you the thing we're like our figured out later. You know, but right now jump through this Blake and as yet. Well up again what was superimposed Ameri Christian, who has a completely opposite right, a train of thought on all topics and she's been good at gently pointing out, like you know these fight stories, you tell it's that people's favorite part of you, Oh really, that's interesting because we're from a Michigan these are good good stories. Land is that no people don't want around someone who might just give physical what other people it's not a comforting thought is mittens much my mind. I'm thinking this is me
so comforting for everyone to know that I will. I will confront the guy if he comes to the door, that's the opposite reaction! I want to ask really quick. As you, you said, you listen to books and I to listen books and indeed feel guilty when you admit that you actually listen to that book as opposed to read it. Oh people will shane me by going. You don't read a book with her and then and then I will say I'm four inches taller than you what he can bring about it, that's the name of a good return home. Now I am so happy like it's worked out, do you want? I had. transport, but I e I now like gloom for awhile with like when I started the soup back in two thousand, for I was so anxious because I'm quick can really read and all I had to do and I had read teleprompter well, though, right where you were
dislikes idea right, yeah I repeated grades. I will yeah, they were. They literally diagnosed me with slow starter, so my my sons are also dyslexic, one is being diagnosed in and the doktor goes and she's striving all the symptoms, and I was like that's my that's what I have introduced. Always one, which one it was because its passed down and then I said I was died. They told me I was a slow start and she doesn't deserve even mean those loans, and I dont know you just she put her head on one of its own stupid. as well as a euphemism for stupid. Last ardor yeah, I might I would always because my dad clearly has dyslexia. He would never really admitted a long time, but he had always say like not bad for white trash from Chicago right. Dad also worked. Ass often did well and yellow and I was less dizzy. Jumble, a ton of words. Does he like miss pronounce people's names and staff oh, but he can't remember names just like I can t. I can't I mean Betsy
You ve done a great deal about it's just a few people, I'm fine like I did. I stand appealing Columbus last weekend and I have a cousin lives there and I checked my mama like do you know? do you know what show marries coming to introduce Jane your cousin for six years, yeah she's gonna first, because my mom was a newspaper editors and my death is very smart to marry somebody who could at it everything you handle all the of the reading and writing needs me. Are you a bit winded and wooden audible come come on we're? U like. Thank you Jesus, what Well, you know it's interesting is is I did not learn to read the fifth grade, but then I did develop a super passion
for reading around like my senior year in high school, and I just read super slow, but but I did learn I loved reading. I really got into books and take care of my insomnia, so I started listening to these Mccullough books, these dance historical books that are so my numbing with detail. They would put me to sleep so now that was about three years. It was enough of listen d like a hundred books, because that is what puts me to sleep, Do you found out. You were dyslexic because of your son yeah. Well, who was of everyone, knew you'd right. You are a slow start her until you years I'll just like right and I'm kind of took that philosophy. My whole thing was because I cheated all through high school and call it, and I was always like I'm just going to figure out how to get good grades without having to work, because I don't I can't read it. I can't read the material, but I'm just gonna cheat and I'll figure it out
We're gonna mouth to. I was very good. At geometry, a stall that huh and strangely the only science class I ever did well and was physics because it's all spatial damn right visual, so I can get all right this make, and so I loved physics and geometry tank algebra. I was a figure of my whole thing. Approach to education was had figure out. The sis and then once I figured that out, then I could be like all right. Disseminate gets better grades than I should begin, imagine? No do you have a crazy memory for auditory stuff. Like things you yeah but you young historian, it's fucking yeah in college. I took as much history as I could. I love the history and there was a number of lecturers where I could just listen to the lack of. I would get it and then I knew I could just write it down. I ain't a test, but when I would get these there are like here's a teen books for you to read and I feel like I'm not going to read any of these classes where they would presume the books and I were just dropped. The class ou would yeah, but then the other guys would go.
You. Strangely, though I had to do research. Where would they would be like you cannot use textbooks? You can only use old newspapers and I had an ok. I think there are so many pictures and visual stuff that I can read. news old newspaper very quickly, but what's goal is growing up? We we think, like our fact, right of yeah. Clearly, real legal challenge in the in the grades would suggest that we're fucked earlier, but you don't realize you aren't. You are developing this superpower, which is this memory for things you ve heard, which then, as someone who improves Lawton, is off the cuff like this is your greatest weapon. Is that you have this crazy database right of little clips in your head, that you can draw up pretty fucking quickly, yeah it's scary when you meet someone that I don't know, I'm just when you let this fundamentalism drew Hansen and he's in the state legislature and watch and road scholar harboured he's. You can read anything at any of the fast as you ever seen and he's got the insane meant
like all really do. You need to run resident, yadda yadda generally, the other way when they read a book. In my experience they did you just don't retain nearly as much as properly when you read a book or when I read a book the area. point so fucking swell But he just having someone read it to me- is yeah. I loved the it's the eye. I whenever I exercise or drive, I don't listen to me. nearly as much as I used to go there, I'm reading all the books that I should have read of like all reading. All it does. I asking other out this is the stuff of raw. Did you re crime and punish yeah me you're a fucking book the way he can relay what people think is on are to stay to four four armchair. Dare armchair export is brought to you by our sponsor audible convened.
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dot com slashed. I read the gambler and that is apparently an anti semite, which is that we just gotta you're gonna have to overlook that Henry Ford is well, you know, but he's got the car out of a guy's. A lotta goes like people to that's a big big topic that would be worth talking about, but notes let's do it, but here's my here's, my thought and now there's a lot of movements that basically the the end result of these movements, as people are gone, they're kind of just put out the Siberia right, yeah and what's interesting, is I don't think we ever calculate what what cost are we going to pay now for this? So we're going to punish this person who might have a ton to contribute to society?
before it right. The guy is this despicable. He was an anti semite. He was a supporter of Hitler. This is all bad bad, bad, bad bad, but he is his net result on. Society is still so positive right right so, but but we we live now in a culture where but CASA was among us and we found out. Picasso had done something dodgy. We would just get rid of Picasso, he would be banished right here. He would never be allowed to create anything and then we then would be denied all that. So it's just an interesting. I don't know me you could make the argument. that so in Michael Jackson's case, yeah, obviously on the barrier to court for possible most that he was cleared. I think. Obviously, big fans are like he was ruled innocent and bite
You could also not the civil cases they re, oh yeah, and you the whole thing about being I'd being able to identify marks on his penis. That's it that's. It seems like up. What call it a court case. I mean I feel like open and jolly. I can describe you no rights Oh, you go yeah, but his music still gets played, obviously as it again as it should, because all I don't know. I don't know why the world should be punished because he had this terrible aspect to his personality. Why should we all be denied this amazing music? That spreads joy, makes everyone dance and is happy. It's just you know. When I listen to my boy, you can't Michael J, ai me too, I mean yeah. I mean that with such a public case, but then you know you read about John Lennon and Julian.
His older son said he would never have kids because he never would ever want them to have the same upbringing that he had a half an hour. is in full, indeed, that lower you're you're enjoyment of well his eyes when people go like isn't the the greatest like I not. The greatest father leads to that. First round was no good right, but that that's my issue is that, for I guess what I'm? What Elisa? How I feel like What people are saying is that unless someone is entirely perfect across the board, answering gray: writing is, is null and void in that just Martin Luther King Martin Luther king had orgies that were recorded by the FBI. Had those come out. day, he probably would have been silence. Would we have denied ourselves the civil rights this that happened? He had all these tapes were made public a few years ago. You knows: you you could fuckin John F Kennedy. He had said version in the in the White House Pool. That would probably be
lay White House has a pool. That's tat was my biggest shocker. Do she was made The rounds, unlike she did a sixty minutes than she had been waiting for Jackie Oda, died and tell her story, but she basically was a virgin and got hit on by him in some staffer and they went into the pool and sex in the pool, and you know that's a dodgy situations. Yeah, that's really dodge it has it does, but all things aren't equal here. I think the level of pain and injustice is differ. But let me just ask you: if the if there is a man that has the cure for cancer in his basement laboratory in he hates every one, and he This is the end word breakfast. Are we going to?
punish ourselves because he has that site amounts of its is to me it's like the opposite of utilitarian philosophy. Words like whose you're right you don't have to fucking tolerate some shit. If you want the upside of some of these, be that's true, but cancer, which saves people's lives, indifferent and looking at paintings by young. If I don't think so, I dont think you can say that the value that Picasso added to world history or that Michael Jackson's added is not commensurate with some scientific breakthroughs. It jaw play biggest, but it's the same thing. It's the same sort of theme of somebody who contribute something greater society whose despicable in a big way yet get. The point is: can we handle that? Are we big enough to acknowledge? yeah that guy is a fucking scumbag, but I got to say no one plays the violin like him and that's worth having in school, so kids can learn, but I do think now that sort of behavior is hard to hide.
Obviously Ford was open about it, but now it's way harder to keep lax behaviour like J F case, because of I think of having someone- It. Never. Thank God, women reporting in news now that stuff all changed some now it's gonna be different. Yeah, look, I've! I've but in this opinion out loud at parties and people were quick to say, like ok, ward of its your daughter, whose blank you know and I go get both. That is terrible, There's gotta be another solution other than guy with cure for cancer you're in Siberia. About he's not Women are whatever any number of practical, pragmatic solutions to this stuff, where we still allow the one good thing about the person to be nurture our support it. You know this is its. I think it's tricky. Why does he do that? We're thing you're like yes, oh but society has benefited from this core thing or has that
the ozone know me. I think you do not get it I had. Rather there were slowly baking ourselves but yeah. What but, but I think you'd be hard pressed to go through history and everyone we hold up if they had lived in the era of twitter and whatever else a I dont think we'd have many people. I'm not rush, really now ended. So what would we be left with just like our more well, superiority that we punished everyone who wasn't perfect right, it's absolutely it so weird, it's out once you get in the weeds of at its very difficult, I want to ask you: ve been labelled a slow start or what? What impact do you think that has had an you're gonna, full adult life. No, I decided not to pursue pop music. Now I always thought I'm going to show him. I fought it and- and I thought I know how to get around, and it's so and I always was figuring out ways to get around stuff. I mean I knew I was good at sports, but I knew I loved acting and performing. So I really don't
and I made school always became secondary, and I knew that I was. I could tell jokes and class, and that always did well Bobadilla again do what what's the chicken and wants the egg. please be, would come up like I'm not a meal, dispel any these words had then you know then I'd make a then it would be fun to make a joke out of Rhine. I could make people laugh and they would still think I was the dumb kid but I don't have classrooms and you think, like I'd rather would lead the days. The spelling bee would come up alike. and I can be able to spell any of these words. And then you know that I'd make a then it would be fun to make a joke out of it right. I can make people laugh and they would still think I was a dumb kid. But but I was excelled in sports. So I knew I had advantages there
don't want to know if a stupid, it's dark. I did a lot of it and I went to college. I definitely should have not gone to call you into you dumb, rightly other hard school to get into right, but my creates are pretty good. Might manual hours work that, in some good education, birthing would like our life? If I can't do it, I don't want it. You know like stupid, it's dark Vienna. I did a lot of that and I went to college. I definitely should have not gone too You want to you directly other hard school to get into right, but my creates are pretty good. My my insurance rights hours work a disaster also what I did begin. I think it took me a long time was. There was like this you to go to acting classes and stuff like that like this is how you do it and I realized I was like oh, I can only use twenty to thirty percent of this info
creation- I only I have to take up that I can use and throw everything else, because, if not useful to me right so when I began to kind of think for myself and go oh here's how I'd? I can accomplish this to my certain level of accomplishment that I can do whether it's like Helen, jokes or something that really kind of helped? Oh, I don't know my like. I know my skill set here and that's what I think I can, but I think the athlete part is really the last great source of a you fit in with a bunch of guys on teams. Yes, zooming and you learn what you're good at right. yeah, yeah, you're, Yorick, sallying you're, better at something than other people like. I think those it that's a great well to have. Yet you know if you're lying. Do well, it helps
You have at all I had. This is a terrible sight of me, as is I'm a fucking know it all. In response to thinking everyone thinks I'm a dumb ass dear, that first of all, knowing you a bit not too much, but I've never gotten that feeling I never got the oh there's the you're gonna have to prove that he's smart. How good I've! Never I all I saw was Dax is one of those kind of cowboy rogue, smart guy, other sort of free economic type alternative can I use ever my bio do monsieur you got like a he's got like he's. A motorcycle ex birdie can raise. Cars is clearly smart in ways which typically smart people or typically scenes more people, would run screaming and crying from so that I've never felt you try to buy, but I'm sure there was all in my twenties. I think I was the US offer a box. It was so import,
to me that you understood I was not a dumper has really. I think I was real tough to be. I think people would agree. When did you feel like you became easier to be around? Why think? We're getting sober helped, and I also think, being around Kristen helped a lot and I think, is generally getting some fucking self esteem along the way I have like growing, made clear. We were good athlete. You'll know I was out the different, like. Obviously the motorbike sport will write. So that's a fact that you're not dead or completely mangled is amazing yeah Did you have a theory that won't when all I will die and then I'll get to Heaven and I'll go out, finally happened in logo or that so cute, you This is the first time you died. You die there and ninety nine unite like when they could be a fun reveal that, like we diet bunch at times when they finally way whatever. Who cares
what I told you not like going it of you believe you ve actually died before I dont believe I'm going to have. Another. Is a haven't, but I just play a fun game or I get to Heaven and I got all that's pretty good. I made it to seventy two was expecting a diet sixty two and they go. Oh, no. No, you did diet. Sixty two new died at forty six and then you know motorcycle accident. You died, people don't live from that use out. You lived you like that, so you feel it gets Ladys? Can move around you learn a lesson in this story: an angel rather motorcycle. What do you want it and goes both buddy boy? Just no, now those show you that, oh, you were dead like you're, dead, meditate God and they just walk you out beyond, like no. You survive this crazy car accident. I look forward to your boy. What, whenever we're talking about like you know what we hope our daughters will. Wolf will leave the house, like whatever If we are one skill, I know you have to go on gorgeous
gladiator biking, sons. Well, there really good looking in, and I think they kill each other right. If you let them ah yeah yeah another, which is, I think, as it is going to serve them well in life, are yet my brothers and I we killed same here, but if I had to pay just a single thing that they left the house with forget, whatever, whatever kind of them as self Motivation week, we could bestow too I would want them to exercise a literally if they did nothing else. I think maybe I with honourable awful people they can be terrible in school. I could be all these things. Lord anti Semites, Where is that as long as they hit him burning crosses in the front yard? Nobody they. If, if the left the house and they exercise three times a week, I would I would be most happy about that. Not so why? How? Because it dissolve, relates to? U dont worry, so you re, like Lincoln, I'm sorry about
six divorces you had and but I know, she'll be happy because I do think exercise is a huge source of happiness because again I'm nothing to support this theory. I do think for the bulk of time humans lived here. We Spanish, as you are talking about. We spent a big portion of our day being physically active gathering food or actively hunting in you, a reward for that work with serotonin and now we're all sedentary and we'd, or we have jobs where we don't do anything physical here and that's why you have pandemic depression in this country. I feel like also in England several years back. They stopped treating people with mild depression with pharmaceuticals and they started the hs. Whatever that National Halsey S call run run, they will pay for them to go to a gym three days a week, because they
found that that has better results. Entreaty mild depression, then than pharmaceutical sell. You have this. This give you work out, nonstop right time, I'm working right now! I am just flexing: down below and are you are I'm doing Cato exercise that great he of the most powerful chemicals in the business. They say he was so well known for what you have this. You might ever recognise that this is a gift. You have that, like you, you were in mathematics and then you, for whatever reason you ve kept that going d do acknowledge. That might be a big building block of your own self esteem in your own happiness, oh yeah! Definitely in it it's it's! I do find it rather I mean so there's a selfish part of it. Obviously, because you want to look good and you want to
we're rain led yes and the elect. Maybe you could go to a soup kitchen and help out downtown sometime. I gotta hit the Jimfred fell out a measure the salmon out before I do. I look array and it's very kind of narcissistic in that way bite, but the other side of it is keep moving because Moser american people are age. Nine York magazine. Third, armenian? Twenty. Thirty to forty zero back together, Gettings Highschool Credit Is that our I'm not our parents, but the our prayers before by the time they were. Our age mean they were, it was there was enough cigarettes and whisky and not moving around, for the most part are like that. Was it in. No. I do at the end, as you said that endorphin rush, the all that stuff is, I feel like it. If I don't exercise-
because clearly you ve had periods rear working too much and you can't right. Have you had one lay offs of working out in your well then cut to me in my trailer doing pushups going. I need to do two hundred pushups. Yes, you have a very regimented diet and while it adds the vanity part, is that Jimmy him we'll starvation diet, oh you're, on that one day a week you found out, I do three to four: you fuck, Really Lord. Today I have any. I'm goin to allow only toy. Oh, my dear. How does this not fuck up your metabolism? How did you like this has to? I haven't Moura starvation Mon. I am more energy on non eating days than I do on eating. Does that that's no testament to what your metabolisms doing Oh, I feel like you're a hummingbird. No human beings did not constantly feed themselves. Well, that's very true, and we now live in a society Will we have access to food all day and night, and that was not the case and I feel bad for us. I want she's nature,
as with the girls and you see what a fucking barrel do to get a sea all right, maybe it'll kill itself to get a seal, and yet, oh, oh, we have that same hard wiring. So I am very sympathetic to like were nearly defenceless against that you know vs ie. What will do to get a piece of meat, of course, were fought, yeah rolling. What is the council? Can you breakdowns? I it's not really! that's what I mean it's, not Munich and break it down, and yet, as allies had only days, I do three to four, usually three a week where adopt dinner, and then I don't eat until dinner. The next day, really and then, when the dinner, the dinners, what its responsible as well? Well, the thing you never again, how are you keeping on this much muscle mass, because you're very guys the physique is off the fucking charts position. as literally at the Giovanni loudly Zip from the G20, as is bulging. The biceps are vascular and powerful. Did you like supplements is now the mass are now now
I would just remind amends unpropitious we are virtually. The sands are really at your area more imposing physically. That is not true that the means it lacks ia and yeah. We would be from the same trotted, cheating highly seated in Spanish. Really I call it I could not pass managing you had to have it to get an easier way, and I just had the fucking cheat that was, I tried it failed three times and I was like ok, I gotta pick up a little tiny piece of paper and bring it to the test and I did area the scratch paper. the best way to achieve, and I actually has a good right all the answers that I didn't feel guilty at all either I left going like. I did what absolutely needed to be done. Yeah I mean it is it's it's an essentially wrong by nine hours. I did as we already talked about. I was like this. This is that I can Do they so I'd hate? It sounds like so it doesn't matter what I do to get by. This is why I should have just gone straight up. You know I conservatory for acting or something or or none rising else. Now will you you did play
college football right. Is it not? Yes, but now I welcome. Suddenly we note that really means theirs Teams have a you, can just join a team and the like. Ok put these paths on will see how you do a practice, ok and guys, guys, would be there. This is the Rudy story, basically ethically yes, but some guys would you would weaned, you could see him, they show up a navy and then one practice and they leave. That would be ok and I stay for two years. The EU has a good looking six but for Rudy. Thank you. What were you all know it when you were a hum when you're in college, what were you're dimensions? What'd? You way your tight and tighten, and I I remember getting on the scale naked and I was to forty five God There is real and I had six percent body, all my god. What were you doing steroids earning? No, are you were now now? If you will another way right now to sixteen to eighteen or to forty five of muscle that were those with a died I reading
six or seven steaks for breakfast. I was eating non, stop you are and because you were practicing twice a day and you were lifting weights and on top of doing school and all that stuff, I'm so intimidated, and I was bad I mean I was we are cookies and stuff away. Yes, I it was. It was your also young enough that you almost you, can eat and yet You, gotta sizzler, now come out. I were unless I would like us you over to Dennys, there wasn't a size other you're, my school, the voice of daddy's. I would like to be answers like no. There was guy, but the two guys ahead of me. There was also other guys, so I was like I was the funny guy on the sidelines,
Ok, let's roll the have their eyes, I held it skit night I mean that they allow the respect the players gave me after skit night. I was like, oh all right when, when did you meet Sarah labeling, who after college no, I met her once when I was a freshman collagen sheets, she was a senior. I was walking home from foot a practice and they are. The authority arrive at two forty five swarmed over because I had just power ran into or miss men, two and a half hours and Sarris First shoes, a colonial who was a mutual frantic or a woman. I went to high school within a close friend, Cyrus's just happen, they do and she introduced us, but she look who's. That guy who looks like he's. Injured and slumped overrun with a worse posture whose at all Jiang's ever seen and and then I didn't really meter Intel three years later, that baby
prior to meeting her when you're on the football team in your big stood in your funny. You have an appetite for Ladys in that in those first couple years, a college now really really. I wasn't that guy. You weren't explain that I just like US allies and fraternity for three or four horrible months. I met one guy really liked, but I was not that I just decades it's the parties would happen at the foot. I would always like I gotta get out of here. This is disgusted with that the long and arduous bringing this is tat. I know that's all people love it in and get a gasket vat, but it just was outdoors relax. I'm gonna end and I spent a lot of time in church. So are you did ya either of Catholic or through a Catholic, but I came a presbyterian and this day. I still am? U converted yourself in college from Kathleen Realisable yeah my parents were throw the was
that's weird active rebellion. It is as if ever there was a I'm not going on reading the sacrament guys yeah, I'm there now. I see it symbolic. And it is no. I really weird did you have a good friend who introduced you? Did their church, Indian, Isla, hey, check out my church and then a bit you? Could you do recognize? Most kids are just trying to avoid church altogether. The known I sailing out and nicer ordeal to this day when it's Sunday morning, unlike church you go, then I got light in then, like a couple. Friends would take me like a mega church, which I hated, ok but like see, we can bear like no, not doing that. I love the ritual visit. Do fine. I don't want anything to do with public ITALY suffering people are standing. Jumping down their arms or in the ear I hated all that I was in. So how did you find your own church, though it was like the presbyterian church was the kind of a happy meat
Ok, but did someone introduced you do it or use kind of our knowledge there was. There was one across the street. I need his walking because it was close. It was closed. There was a lot. I knew a lot of people that it seen seem like that campus. It was a cry of quite a mixture of folks there were, I knew they were going there and encourages board with the catholic church in it. Are you I disagree. I mean I really. I think they do need to have women priests. That just should be a thing sure I always disagreed with that, and but I always liked the ritual, some ancient ritual, but too, but proper and my brothers, episcopalian priest, and so he is so he basically you go right up to almost being a Catholic, but then you can Marian have children. That's yes, apps, globally and so my wife. She went to that presbyterian church. So that's got that, sir. So as a couple
we'll do that anyone you are shopping for a girl. Was it in Porsche that she was also religious yeah. Probably it's definitely because your own, it's it's it's held. You too have in common. You're gonna raise heads together and obviously you're gonna want to raise them. Yet that belief, yeah. I still got you which people when I tell them the like work, but you say fuck and I guess I'm a little shocked by it, but I've been I like it. I like look dude, I go to a which is not where I was hoping to go and I like it. I can't be barrage mental of in a group that people join church to less. Well, it's a higher power, but we like to say it's not the winners, now that we're all the winners congregate. Oh it's like we were like I did it. Melons join. This group is very well.
The lower I went in, and I urge the winners in that you made the decision, those whose job it ends up being a winners club. Here not I was walking. I was walking with my nine year old to Starbucks from School Starbucks, and it's this guy who was talking to himself and limping along. He walked past us and it said done it. He had clearly got MC work out, but just a world class junkie. Coat a really great on another matter, but I was like that. It's not the guy that way to stop doing that. Who knows maybe, like total yourselves? Maybe the dollar version rooms actually even warrior and the bay does show that when human beings can like yourself can get off that it shows an incredible level of evolution. Intelligent well to me, becomes my deal. Isn't SAM Harris's podcast wetlands? Now it's all! I talk about AIDS grades awesome, but he
he kind of ISA analogous and he's he. He is a proponent of this, no self willed theory right. He doesn't believe people really have ultimately self well, because you have so much biochemistry that's making so many decisions really for you in the bunch. Other things all that to say my kind of proof against that is is my personal is like oh yeah, I'm definitely Bio engineered to be an alcoholic. Unlike you know, ninth generation, every one of my family and of getting sober. I was molested that almost here tease you're gonna, be an attic. All those things would definitely guarantee that it was have a, but despite all that you can- a red rats, veal and had only answer for that. I don't know, I guess I gotta get in front of him. God. I've been asked a question before now. I have yet to hear raised by AIDS or what I always think when I listen to. I was like yes, you certainly are predisposed to all kinds of you know sweet of behavior, but but people are regularly breaking out of that, I feel like
Well, yeah money. Everyone is hurt. Nobody kamikaze pilot is doing some, yet it there's no way. You're Bio, engineered to crash a fuckin area emits a b she and the wheat ILO. All sorts of stuff that is is counter to what, as to our health, analysing this guy's it once more because the world he would have tons answers horse, but I don't know what says they ve been preconditioned end Brainwash to avoid thinking. This also means their born into a circumstance. If we don't choose some of these initial circumstances, What we really kamikaze appear, critics of other. Isn't you guys? Why would someone choose to do that. If someone at the violence you we had to be, no one would ever chosen to. Did they involuntary? yeah, but if you could say under pressure to volunteer, but then you could say wide in every pilot in the japanese airforce. Do that right,
and then he'd, say I'll, because the their testosterone levels were such that they would have never made that decision, thus proving that you know had the guy been born with less testosterone that one of his destinies has really happened as whatever. What I really want to know, though, from you is that you because Yoda jurists Last year, your dislike cell of jesus- and you came up here late. I want to know about the low, so you you had your community right yeah when you're on community in the soup, you must have been yourselves themes through the roof right you're like I'm, so gainfully employed, I'm not terrified any more. no, I my I was very you know like ok, it's working and also I was spoiled on especially well. I had done three pilots that on never one anywhere. Ok before that, and so, but I always I didn't, know the difference between
That was a bell. You do a pilot, Europa gets picked up and then at the usually doesn't Anna and then one did it, but then, with the soup, because, as you know, the you audition for a thousand different. Thousands of things yonner you I just counted. It is like rarely additional donor today in yeah I'll? Do that and there's that and then got on the air? I did I'd, never did piloted a five minute pilot presentation and they went great or I will try this out and there was no launch there was no nothing so that it was a very ultimately a very good one. Get down to heavy weather. I we're gonna, put it on Friday night for four weeks. More will see, and now an end at that point, as I always on IE is not on a Friday night that the world's not turning into the second first episode of the second seasonal lost right, and so it was. But can you bring up a great,
I think that there is a perception from the outside of Hollywood that that were actually choosing where we're gonna end up, and that is an illusion, like I literally, was in a final call back to replace the blues clues guy. At the same time, I was getting punk like it was gonna go either. I was either going to be on punked or blues clues. You now Whoever would write a genuine athlete. Yeah Bach yes What have you are tabling penniless over ten years? I would have yeah out a blown blue Yes, again blues was so I just wanna pointed out there like yeah. I want my like why why? Why did you do the super why'd? You do community, but we know why do punk? What whatever do you do, whatever the fuck? They throw your way right. Yes, when you find something that's when community comes up and a red that script and
the first pilot schemes, this one's really good. No, I can do that. This is the one I'm going after. I win ended a network tests and there are like you, didn't, get it. Oh, really and then Joe Rousseau, Nathan, recent and harm in breadth. Like do you mind if you all executives, leave unwilling to put him on camera than you can watch that and I sat around from other four hours so how nice of them aren't you great year, thereby gush, I'm going over to Jos House tonight, sometimes people take that time changes fucking why? Yes, re literally changed my life tat day, but be too. I think people think, because, like Belgium, you're married to a movie star Euro movies. Don't you have a house that you can do you? You will like demolish right. I really like I showed up with which showed up. I thank my wife had a job and that's why we could get an apartment right. I had no money and I worked at large, Mont wine and cheese when I got here, which I loved
I love that play a sandwich. It's really good is that more than I ever their sandwiches right or no others out there. We allow sandwich, which really do your part of that rich history. Yes, there are people that come along in your life that that are cheerleaders and that that help you? Yes, it's hard to accept, help. Isn't it. Because you're I might starting embarrass like, I can only imagine if, in your situation there like hey, you didn't get it. terrible place and is now needed is used to do some more acting right. I rarely have ever read a role and there are like you We now we're still to this day. I went that that never it was because Joe any Anthony Russo and then I knew they wanted. There were like you, we would like you we wide for this and we're going to fight. It were near as hard as we can add so great. And I'm like saying they would Gillian Jacobs when she came in we all and she read, we went that's it's her. That's that's the character. It's perfect
so good and end the studio and the network of sending. Also, there is no case that they, we don't and then they were sending all the other people who, like tar, it's our it's her, it's our it's her and you didn't get the role until we were doing a the table. Read the first table reed, which was kind mean, and that very mean and then at the table we d like oh by the way you got it and she burst out MIKE, was wounded, poor girl here and if you seen love, if you watch love no but of its any consolation rate and I haven't wash love glow or Atlantic jeez, The only thing I do anything so I when I had the flu I got through the first two seasons because my my friends element to stop being a friend unless you wash the first two seasons: Fargo, oh my god, how isn't it fuck and it's a magical it is. I will I still I was so
I was at the camp and when I watch this episode, that means there's going to be this. Many are yes let I mean I am moved. The attic and me is in a panic from the first episode, some like it's so good. I can never get enough of this now. What am I gonna do every every season? Oh it's incredible! I made the mistake of watching the third seas and while I was editing chips- and I just was watching the show- and I thought well so they were basically given probably the same amount of money I was given for this fail to do ten episodes and every episode is ten times as good as any movie of seeing the last ten years. I guess he's an impasse. Our assessment of the film industry has shown is that the set design swallows it shot beautifully? Everything is so and take you in that part of the Munich is perfect and she's saying endure Kalen there, one little scene in the second season. That's the song that Holly Hunter was singing raising resigned, but I mean that guy is
as you know, a holly as and his name yeah, but you could also like a member Spielberg was interviewed in years ago. Music master haven't done a movie as good as the godfather well good. It's gotta know right. Everyone's Guiana gives Emily so that everyone can take a shit on them and so did you have cause. I had I had a big chip on my shoulder about coming off of Pont. I had this fear that everyone thought, oh, he just a reality act or whatever the fuck. I thought right did you have why, without being off of the super, when you started coming- and I never thought I would go into hosting- ah, I had never planned on it and I have never done it and then I need to read a teleprompter and I had to read a teleprompter, but for the audition I just memorize all the words, so it didn't matter that it was even rolling and how did you get comfortable the Brompton. Are you now comfortable that do you do you? Did they know how to do it for you like where they minimize the words or they may
Oh, why there was not. They took me four hours to get through twenty minutes. Jokes, I got when the super started and it was. I would ruin almost every sat up and if the punchline wouldn't really well and people were laughing, I would get anxiety economy mess up set up. be very gingerly talking through the Ceta. He could see. Earthy examined producer, Cavy Anderson go like he was like a dad. I like see wise and unite adviser yeah, you don't you today you go and I'd so there's with anxiety tied to it and then the thing helped me more than anything was starting to do the shows law.
So there were like its life and you had to do and I am not screw me, you can't you will screwed up, which I did a lot. But then I was like I'm goin headlong into this, and I'm going to say I have Dyslexia, I'm doing the show live. I don't know how it's gonna go, that kind of dissipated it a bit and then, when I did, it now bragging the White House. Correspondence dinner. Aha, never have been more by the way. What is scary job? Yes on I'm ass, I owe on anyone who can do then thence terrifying. Yes, I was sheriff, I remember what you did it out like fuckin good on you. May I do that's that's a big swing. I were, I worked very hard and I think it was at that one weirdly in. I don't know. I didn't that I'm going on once, but I feel like I was you When we see my brother at our peril so? I do not have them everything. What am I really do? That's the thing
by one of my. U go only. I just know how to do this and then a purpose Why did you know him dead right now? He has been heard. oh boy. Eighty on a dirt bike excursion when she had no business mean I thought when I did it shows you fucking. What are you doing? You did that show you didn't know: Ryan, right now any illegal. Who knows what that fucking shows. I call on you to bread, Ryan. I read this online without funny that I was like opposite break, so that's awesome. I think I think, when I heard that you had done that show not knowing him. I just made me like you even that you would have taken the time to read it and go all this, do you know what this deserve? Some under some support this, I didn't think about support. I thought if the scripts good, I'm gonna, do it? That's a great edict hath it too that's funny. This will be funny you played right? Yes, yes, that's why laws the role of his own showed. So this is how the pony this episode was so he's playing an actor, that's playing hop that is investigating crimes on a television. That's the name of the show, and
I didn't get low ratings, even though they pointed out on the internet, but is on you too that ratings that really matter that he was fired, and I was hired as him, but a reality right, but in his contracts, had do here in every seat. So They cast him as an extra in every in the rain. Neither edges owns Joe and man one scene were at a party and he's dressed in his party down outfit and which was unintended like us. I can't believe this He was like environmental yadda amen. People like eight. That's really funny bet you're doing your dresses, Europe characterised just Jamie's, bow tie. It was any Did you ever hang up about the soup? That's what I'm curious! so the hang up was at the time were like hey. This is working. You would you, like. You know, we'd like you to do, read, carpets another, come not doing any rights. Yeah we're cause! You hate! You keep trying to feel out like. What's the point that I can't now return to being an
right, that's the fear, NEA in, if you're on a red carpet now that you're getting closer to prowling now interviewing the people that I would like you to do acting I was very happy. I wouldn't do that idea and they wanted to make that showed daily at one point, as I will not make any daily cause the mats, that's that's it yeah I'll, never, act again right! So I resisted that. My thing was like: I need to know that I want to do things that are not seen as hosting right, so I can do both when you're doing press, though I would imagine for the first season of community you're, getting a ton of soup questions right and is that trigger? If you add August, That's where I would. I would really be at my worst is like no. I was oak because I knew that that's what was it was working Who knows if this, if this show was gonna work,
and so I tried that you would always be like when he's going on. Another talk show to talk about community. I'm like don't worry, and every time is like the suits going to come up a thousand times right and anything but the so. So I didn't annoy me, but it I was It was more like the up that I totally love it that's the thing I do but new thing, I'm Dwyer yeah. We do you see it yet, but it was funny like even with certain community viewers, the pre they were kind of separate right keeps. The soup was women between, like twenty and forty in this community. For a long time and that a change was like men for keen that thirty, I s office city. I was like we're and then and then community became much more universally, can watch by not the world but that, but by men and women, but but I think we would be shocked and even the few people we ve talked you on here. I think we would be shocked about how fluid you have to be with your
identity with your what what path you think you're on how open you have to be. If you want to find yourself employed in any capacity there been long periods of time or I'm not getting, I offered any acting jobs and I got out of it. As is I gotta pick up my writing games all. just write a top right handed them in that may be, will yield something then, on the back in again for a while, our old, you know. So I think I think it's good. You know if people realize you didn't sit down a map out disk easy trajectory now, which is ultimately landed with you owning a home, which is all really were all trying to de rise yeah provided, we failed or- and this has not been wakening- lack altering awake at night going like. But what am I?
what am I still do that of course like when the last year have been unemployed, and so are you and what was that's? What I want to know about us is is how, during that period, which is fuckin terrifying and you have a family and Sarah no longer works fishing, she sells her art, which does ok, ok, so I didn't mean to in any way diminish serves government. So in that period of a year where you have to be terrified or unless you're, not human, which you don't need three days weeks, maybe you're not when he telling yourself to comfort yourself how to navigate that year I go well, I know I can bring in an income, is through stand up right so like this little do one weekend right when you produced in upon the weakens. Are you doing a couple chosen is, in my view, for shows in the city it's funny to see which cities like other cities not settling. You shouldn't go there and then others who gets been sold out for a month. That's crazy! It's very strange and also you're getting kind of a real time
I am a value which ass he held regionally algae lily, which has got to be a roller coaster. Right, wasn't like even being gone from the soup, the soup and two years ago, when this new show came on and people go always copying. Daniel Tosh o and I was like a wild. That's that length of memory, the half life of Galway. They don't even they don't know anybody. I was our doing twelve years of it on no one. He didn't even didn't even cross their minds. So yet so it's that was crazy because, as you saw with some with some audiences, aids away, aha airy right, but as soon as this new show got amounts to her like there were yeah he's been sold out, Dallas is sold out, ok, Columbus sold out. Oh well, then. What have? How does it's it's? Silk stupid? and wonderful, but when it rains it pours your eminence yeah, when it's not,
XO inured to your answer, your question. Yes, a lot of insecurity of what am I gonna do next year, and will I be able to provide an do I order? I'm I'm, I'm I'm moving back to Seattle and does it does that manifests itself in that year like rough to be around for Sarah? Is there I think it's rough in the me leaving all the time me right leaving on Friday morning and returning Sunday morning. and that's a long we being on the road doing stand up. Yes, lonely, not know your Marian have kid somewhere that re that well I get on a plane and I sleep for the you know, however, and then again
to the hotel, and then I took another nap and then I'm not an ideal and then I'm right back on a flame back yourself. That's it's not like a road comic whose, like I got, shows from Wednesday to Sunday, yeah, that's an you're spending all day in some city. You dont know I love being in these cities. I dont know because I can spend one day come looking around and, unlike in Dallas two weeks ago, as it were, Kennedy were shot. I've never seen Texas Book Exchange that would have enabled the books, start a book depository and then they have the pool where he had sex with a virgin ads and tag a whole museum to that. You may well have had sex with a virgin and taxes, but that's not the one that I am right out see, but it's like even with this show we ve done three. We have tell me the name here. You shoulda, Joel Mikhail, Show, with John Mccain that's great! You met him in their supplies. That's what I want to close out on his eye had its here. had Injurie wake boarding where I had amnesia fur about eighteen hours and I now
I regularly obsess about the fact that I'm gonna have see tv or whatever it's called you played football. Yes, are you terrified? No, because I already had seven concussions and the skull fracture for I play rates. So it's a certain that you're goin did you not yeah? There have to think Is there anything you need you to get screamed or there's nothing? You can do. I don't think right, degenerative, brain condition, right off, they can't die. I dont even can they die. they must not be able to all these annabel players who commit suicide. You're donate their brains to that. No, my white skin my wife because I don't remember anything, but I said this is how I've always been. But then I realized injuries habit, but football was different. I never actually got a concussion playing football which is miraculous, but every day after football I would feel slightly drunk.
Were ideal slightly like paused, and I was like all right. That's what happens oh boy and were the seven previous can call a lot Let me go and watch this That is all you would also have my beer, but oh yeah, during jumping down flights of stairs the skull fracture. I laws. If I didn't, I didn't get amnesia, but I lost my short term memory. You did so. I could not remember one thing to the net so it so I had. Then I was on a loop on a five minute. Yes, yes, did you do you have a memory of realising in that state, o God Genome say no, I'm going something's. How did what was I'm? Never going because remember going that there was just these it just photographs of the rest of the day after the ski echoes. I have no regulation accident ya. Know. Recollect Cosette collided with somewhat this. What I'm told by Dave Johnson dies. Where can we trust? Dave
yeah. Ok day by day, was a very nice he saved my life. Basically, then you realise when, like a soldier, gets blown up and they just why under into the battlefield in get shot, because I don't know where they are here. Unless somebody does, I hate filled it down, and that was he was my fill and he eyed member. So I this accident happened he told me later on legos you stood up and he stood up the other guy and he said: are you okay and he- and I said yes and I got- are you okay and he said yes and then we all skeet on? Oh boy, and then I remember the day being gray and cloudy and it was bright and sunny later on and then David said, I start talking really weird on it and we're sitting fuck em, chair, left newsletter, we're going down and then my legs flashes of me. I was like why I'm never going wiser coke in my hand. Ah, and yet this is fucking, it's getting even kindness. I raised because my was
wait. Boy. Did you hit wake boarding? Ices aboard I yielded to this day. I dont know I'm on my buddy deeds boat in he's got a body with him that I just meant that day. So I dont know the other body right, so Dean's driving the boat, a crash, it's a bad crash. I get into the boat and they got you. Okay and I go you. I just feel like a punch in the face pretty hard and then I M the dead. Now being gets into going. We were all real memory of the actual. Now the area but but so Dean's buddy, who I just meant that they start striving the boat. Now Dean's Unama, forty foot wrote behind the boat, So I all sudden kind of come to on a lake- and I know I live in LA and I'm looking at a stranger driving a ski boat and I'm yelling this guy, where the fuck am I What am I, how am I gonna Lake who argue in so he realizes? Ok, there's trouble. He stops about doing it in I do recognise dean they take me to my mother were dry,
in the hospital- and I say why am I a Michigan, oh you're, home for my birthday? Ok, why can't? I remember that you hit your head wake boarding and I go ok. That episode of Gilligan's island, where you get hit in the head with a coconut, and I just need to get hit in the head with a coconut again no laughing. I go that's pretty funny to say considering my head hurts if I already said that and my mom does yeah honey you've said that about thirty the same job. In that moment I realize oh, my god, my brains broken, and I start bawling and I go there with a picture of ok because out of my girlfriend, in my mom wow and there I'm crying unbundling, and then I go. Why am I Michigan make the same? cocoanut joke and our stock rang again and now I only cried the one time once my brain. While they start. I remembered everything that accompany you embarrassed that you washed out like that house. It was
one with which you are the only thing no invoked and Ivan Errand recited the opposite, which is they thought it was hysterical that I couldn't remember anything my parents were laughing. They re where, because I walked in that, can about your turn like that in real life, now asked me again: Ok, you leave us guy right laughing. Can you I didn't want? when you're boys is on a loop, they. My marriage, tells me you a dinner party that night and I do not care yeah. I am so Syria. I believe there was that they were we removed Minnesota and my parents decided now. two and all the neighbors were going to throw a surprise party might mom and dad, and it was that they were going to go to someone's house, but they don't realize the whole neighborhood gathered and then and my parents like we can't go till locked up his head. He can't remember anything. It's hilarious and others like what they want. look. It was a surprise. A large area were happy. You're staying, can you just Brigham and they did and I went on,
I am pleased with the shining down your own, my good. We play g ideal for like four hours apparently, and I'm in like a fifteen year old, this point and Dan its little kid basically. recognize uses like what's going on with Joel repeating it was like, and here comes cobra I again and then I came out of it. How long did it take you to come out of the room? The loop die. I brought him. I had at noon and am I was at the hospital had a cat scan and then things started becoming a historian. Remember that day and we left smells like one thirty in the morning. Ok, so I guess it was. It was about thirteen hours. loan scheme? I would have just speed office into living and I would be. Zaire has gave mountain, just a rose, and some I mean who had been at that's the thing that was a good day. Johnson was. I was like that was one of those critical moments of my life were Dave saved my life. Can I ask a question before we wrap up debts for about thirty years?
Henry Ford stuff races where we're out on an unreformed now, because you guys both had this dyslexia, which would be considered probably a defect in some way, and then you both for up to have these amazing lives and all these are some things happen. you and you let the way you were aim is going so mean others is crisper heavier and, of course, it's like Wales, Nedda Jean Editing, Jean added lament the stuff they put on. Let us oh yeah yeah, here's the thing where you said Dyslexia is a defect which is they these? Not that there is a reason why people were dyslexic way back. When is that so the princess perfect analogy that the psychologist it so bees they're all set up differently when their born and there's the worker bees there's the queen,
there's the bees that fly and go look for Poland and when you, when those be analyses, come back into the little dance and those bees go like that, be found all the stuff or going to that tree. We're going a bush, we're gonna, rhododendron and we're getting all the palm were come back? The hive will be will continue to live. If you drip that drug like ADHD drugs on those who those bees that fly back, they stop leaving the nest and assume that sort of scattered part of our brain. That goes away these dear this, where we can't seemed, we can't get it right. There is a reason for it and they think there's a that. They think part. Adhd was probably like that we needed scale go out and see you know those dirty weather now sitting camp any longer and how these stories, because of you
we were told over for the rest of your life you're, going to sit at a desk and then you're going to do this one job. You would be like going to end my life cuz, that's not something I could ever imagine doing, or prison so with either as either this life or prison. Rang people in our situation, probably yeah well in there is a great chapter. Did you during those mountain Gladwell books? There's a chapter dyslexic see it was long known that people who were dyslexic had like two times is likely to end up in prison, but was known until recently is that you are also two times likely to be a ceo of accompany right, that the part that they did right. So that's her was going. If you could choose for your kids to have it, would you? Yes, I will we had girls. I weirdly found myself going. I think, God what one of them to be dyslexic weirdly, you know or unloved handed, which is an emperor impairment of some very
he has left handed get off far universes earners, though I believe what I throw write me too. I throw radiant and I kick right handed. I take right and I throw But I need left handed. I lie and asked him if I tried you're right here and I will stop myself in the eye. That's a brush teeth left yeah yeah me too. If I was like, if all my abilities were in one arm, then I could have played ass. I was I I just by the way if we were in the market for a wife swap, I can't imagine a better pairing for you and I are both bringing a tonne to the table. When I'm worried about the pin worms, Ah, yes, he told that story on your shower. That's why you, because you will, I know you're cute when you can tell a fucking pin one story in public. Young people still loves me if that, if she, if there was ever a test of
repeal she hussy my artwork. Yet she inspired the audience, including the president of Netflix ones. Like I had ten worms of cheese is ass. He would feel happy. You were a loser. If you didn't have bought worms, that's basically what it was people. I bet it's one each there well, but that in the backstory really quick issue You show- and she was very honest about the family. Getting pin worms right, though the young girls guy at school and then grumbling at on this, the commercial we showed that a guy goes. He sees a pretty girl and he sits down. Adventure immediately jumps up and then it's got royds time but yeah, but when she were what she probably left out of that story is that she goes you know, so the girls have pinned worm. You know, that's why they veneering, thereby a lot lately you know? Does your assets and, unlike yes, it does born like how high enough,
it's an anus, isn't it just itchy, it's all the natural state of analysis, decree itchy! Yes, as is foul it's you now. I always like to end on talking about reaching our ass. and then I don't wanna or off off. I only had jackets, and that was no fun here. That think I don't know what I'd like. That's one of the things that I live today is always was a couple of applications of oil meant here. Little ouch remains of an anti fungal in Europe or, to this day, had probably just be like at all just shrivelled away because of John you at a torn all, and I had struck throat stream far back in November, and I was what happens to people who had strip, though that they all they died, a horrible horror. What, then, are the infection when it throughout them and their their throat, Justin in sea disintegrated on them and it was a terrible death. Yeah now take this little packet pills me. We find a more unity. I've just give the gym yeah. I didn't
we'll joy. I hope, as I hope, lair you and I will dedicate an hour to going out to lunch in inferior. Even what what more we haven't come because I feel like we just go. The surface today till we them in their left when they look the same, we like to say I mean you're with our attractive, but that's not through are european, then left handed dyslexic, major concussion yup. We, both in We love history Armas, starting on. I guess you could say a reality programme and acted as an actor. I bought a perfectly good house and completely ruined it. We both have forty tvs, beautiful ties, cars we but yeah yeah. We love car. We love driving, I not as the bold as you to be able to drive motorcycles cause you're. A death wish well we're not gonna die of old age
no, no, no! No! No you're gonna drive off a mall hollan, oh yeah, yeah, right, no, really scream and with a rebel yell, I'm gonna think at the age of sixty M reelect swim across the river he had been there. I can do that. Watch this I have a similar things that that allowed his voice in my head is the one screaming Europe Fucking Coward, young, other voice. I have the I bet you can't do that you can't do that fucking little coward. What's wrong with you you're, always your brother, older I've to rise, one older one, younger the other ones, an electrician and and reminded you of your cowardliness. Well, he spends the day trying not to blow himself up. So he's a bad when we had a when we remodel the house and we re reconnected, the power the guy and that there was two guys on the pole and the guy had
five where any drugs the guy shoulder- and he knew there was me- and I was energy- we learned any was terribly electrocuted arm. He lives, but I wasn't like that. They find that you were liable for that. Oh I hadn't I've killed before them, after all the sack but dad. But that's what my buttered toast You spoke about my how juggles chainsaws, isolating Iago. How did it go to any sayin die made it through the death. So I'm happy and you like me to says, a machine, a Yang relations. We crank them out in our forty in Cumbria and I'm not eating that traffic. Rambled eggs. I will order them separately. Thank you, my life for real, though I love you, thank you for always being generous. Thank you and please watch the Jamaica Oh yeah monitoring, Kristen Maneuver did it either those those come out weekly right. That's not up! That's on a season damp like their normal. Well it! Yes, that's tough, every day or every what day, what they well, but
on Sunday morning for real. Yet to what I said now why exactly and they went, you don't need another, so diligently mainly gestures to sell that it actually know what we're doing its networks and they make. Nine billion, they have an algorithm that they realise that get twenty seven percent more viewers. If it comes out it's well, though, fives yell of one in their right and they figure That's why they picture for forty five minutes.