Kristen Bell (The Good Place, Veronica Mars, Frozen, Bad Moms) is an actress, singer, philanthropist and married to the most handsome man in the universe. In this inaugural episode of Armchair Expert, Kristen and Dax discuss what makes their marriage work and Dax recounts why he assumed Kristen had breast implants for the first three months of dating. Kristen explains her life philosophy and how it dictates her every decision and she warns people of why they should never sit next to her in a movie. The two of them question their impact on social media and Dax reveals the worst thing he has ever done.
This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
Hello and welcome to arm chair expert. I am Dac Shepard and today my guess is the lovely Kristen Bell. She was Veronica Mars. Sarah Marshall Princess Honour and she is- Eleanor shells drop in a good place. You can saying she can dance, she can do drama, she can do Carmody she's, frustratingly tale that in special and above all, those things she's my wife and even more importantly, she's an incredible mother to our girls. What is- funny about his interview. Is that I naively assume this would be a slam donk, because Weave acted up at one another in a bunch of things and done dozens of interviews together and for the most part, those things have always been pretty effortless and in full. Disclosure. She was my first interview because I was so confident it would go well, but on this day this day, you're about to hear we just were not getting along. We were bickering and impatient with one another and the first.
of the interview was a struggle. In fact, I can see heard just leaving this unreleased, because truthfully I'm embarrassingly controlling throughout most of it, and she is, by my estimation, very suspicious of my motives throughout, but ultimately I am sideboard out because it's real and true, and you find our way back to like each other by the end. In short, I do you think of this episode as the antidote to are Samsung commercials. Please enjoy we're ready, One slide: you're cans are very cited to welcome what will definitely be the club, Yes, I'm closest to the whole world, assuming
we don't have our children on Christian Bell thank you for joining me on arm, chair expert, thank you for having me in your little nervous? Why characters, Jupiter we ve been arguing for about the last twelve minutes or just little baby, little thing where we're both on ads and that's not like to go into a public discussion, we're or or public appearance with you. but you are annoying me, so I mean back and that's life. How was I doing, though, so annoying mostly just asking you to do is right that the main well, I did look. I did have to go to Michael's too. And then I am relieved Ireland and I really want that. Garland iranian folks had known that Michael sets, a yawn store right. It's like a crowd, and here is a perfect example of wiring annoy. Yes, it is across her sunny yarn sword, but it also has great garland and. if you need yarn. Where is the best place to go. Any of the Mcdonald's meetings.
alone, Atwater Village. I'm will I associate maybe wrongly Michael's with crafts and your daddy any needles, those kind of things, so you would prefer to be it Michael ass. You ve made it abundantly clear that I also hang because you have this new. You have this podcast now in year, like excited district people down and I'm just now. You can ask me because you know I don't oh a lot of stuff and I also don't have a good memory. You're gonna be like, but on her have all your memories now locked in, this progress with yourself about me. I considered it. I really would bear frightening everyone. I too, because you a great impersonation of you yeah and Maybe it be better if I just recounted- our stories you I'd, know. You're, not I love you. Images at Europe
annoying because you're here my presentation, we sure, where way away away away, aware, will there's another example of white, but, like I was trying to get worked on for a job that I have re. We ll have a lot of them and I'm very raid- and you are talking over it and making jokes and saying: do you see the all the Bay Laurel trees we got outside Mouselike? Does he not realise I'm trying to get this done as quickly as possible? So I can do this podcast then ear refusing a door on your bathroom, and I give you a accurate observation that we could put a curtain, and you say it's signs of it. We invite you just hang a curtain. There is everyone knows wherein what would be described. I guess is an attic. That's been converted into a little room above a garage of whilst that we're betraying the North pole to move into and its yeah sites its shaped oddly, why here's the thing you and I have different I will, however, if I could see this room, because you and I have different ideas,
is about nesting and how to welcome someone in here. For me, I would probably get the woodchips off the ground I would vacuum the carpet. I would possibly take all these like loose cords. This, like open, live equitable system until guys there was a wall in here and it really cut into the open space. So I tore the wall out with my own to bare hands which an actress of your calibre should be grateful that she married a husband who knows how to tear a wall but you're, not hearing any about your does. Then all I can find no election as a complete, I'm just saying. If you're gonna be inviting people here to your pod, can you have to have a door on the bathroom by the way I think that we will now move on to a new restaurant and it looked like this. We got so cool, they left all the elected lost. I left to make observations about like current hip things like you hate them, good, artisan and all this damn you don't we don't know. That's all. I'm asking you is in feet how many feet
ways that toilet bull from my face right now is no. No. No. No. you have to do, is put your mean Lane and Amazon blow over six feet so I think it's about fifteen feet away from you. I think that's less than two bodies of you. I think it's probably one and a half, but regardless of states twelve feet of Europe close to the command, that's in arguable right and if you haven't guest up here, limousine Robert Deniro. Does your Padua he'll lightly? Well, yeah right! So he's not gonna want to go to a toilet that first I can see, into right now. You have to put a curtain on that. You have research on the genuine you'd have human beings want to spend time with you presume. Ah here you and I respect your opinion about this. Secondly, I've span does of ours in here writing staring at that exact doorway, which is at a seventy degree angle. The ceiling is technical
the impossible to get a barrier between the toilet in the gas. So this is something I've come to accept, uniting the faster the gas come to set that letter in the middle of the room, and you have enough. You can't do that. Our habit. This I need to get a Michael's anyway. I like this tomorrow, I'm going but a Michael's and I'm gonna get you a beautiful piece of fabric that looks like it's ripped straight. Often these matters arose old diamond and I'm going to hang it up as you hooks and it's gonna work perfectly then at least I'm gonna feel comfortable that if my girlfriends want to come here and do podcast village by the waves, I can't wait for you. girlfriends, seeing this is what this is. Why you are annoying. I'm gonna get light. You started biting now, I'm here. Standing ovation ever you solve this problem, the barrier between the commission and the gas site way, ugly and I'll do it. Yet I will give you your papers, I'm gonna fix it
knowing that you were going to come on, I thought of a story that probably we haven't told them public. That I think, is pretty funny Latvia. We, I love you so much too, I love you when you're annoying the more that's the key being it the annoying times. You got a shot so when we first met our very first time, hanging out by choice. We were we met at a dinner party. That was not our choice. In there we ran into today, the Redwings game also not planned, but then we hung out intentionally right. We were Two hours, your favorite restaurant noise went to a firefly firefly. I met you and your friends there and then we ended up back at your house and you at a hot tub yeah and we went in hot tub together, yeah. Well, my room on my roommates of unusual. It yeah yeah may all that's cause they or else they build up, but they were there. or because they knew I was like dating, and then it made me nervous. They want to make sure you knew. I was like top predator yeah yeah like apex further. Will they saw
who, unlike most people, immediately didn't trust. You are so Ryan what it was like known in the hearts of with a jungle cat like a Jaguar, Lubber, yams, nourishing anyways, so ended up being just you, and I am handsome and added Ryan whispered. To me, a couple times are, you, are you sure, you're safe of affairs, so you ve the Rhine laughed and whereby yourselves and then you said what we were talking we're in the middle talking, then you said: why are we go from my perspective? which I understand you take issue with you like most guys unintentionally, and perhaps even so, consciously your eyes, darted down to my turn em area and perhaps the left and right side of my sternum approach. I refer to, as my breasts, and I said to defuse Yes, because I noticed you pop down once or twice As I said, what are you looking at my faked its right to use Christians are what are you looking at my faked it now
defence and I may maintain this position I'll admit anything. You know me I've. I've admitted the most terrible things pass. That's true, they very honest, yeah sure the bed in an orgy. Ok I'll say that at an interlarded listen. So what I'm saying is it's weird to me that I would not admit looking at your boobs, because I'll admit to Starin at your ass, a tonne that night I sincerely my gaze He was probably on your boobs, but it was not. I wasn't looking a right, but can I just say something: you're you're an ape. Ok you're, I'm a man. You do something subconsciously issue them. You know people I work with, don't even realize it look, I stared everyone's hair lines and I don't realize it until someone's pointing it out. Neither I dont think than it was during your hairline yeah and work as I want to know what's going on, but I felt I note. Stewart looking down, and I do believe one hundred percent and sincerely that you don't think you were doing it yeah, but as any
remember and understand, sometimes their eyes dart and they won't. They don't even know they're doing it right so neither here nor there. So you did, though we agree on this. You said what are you looking at my faked? It's not worth it very funny joke, because I have very small boobs. There are very varied. They were very, very perky you're in your twenties. At that time for twenty seven, and I was thirty two, and so they were very perky and then later, so that was clue number one for me. So when you look at em affected, then clue number two was we're not aiming for a couple months. We go do when in Rome and you I know you're in a show called Veronica Mars and I think ok, I've got watch this show as a good boyfriend. I end of watching Annabelle love and becoming a marshmallow proper but bits We in disease and one in two, you came into the room, and you said oh
look at this. This is when I got my boobs yeah right. Yes, because at the time in two thousand, four or five push up brows were like the hot ticket item like real power. Push up, rose from Victoria Secret, well engineered yeah, so I had discovered that and in addition I might my horse we're sort of rearranging themselves in my twenties and I lost a lot of my like some sort of chubby cheeks. As a kid and end, my body started to fill out more like a woman, so I got hips and I got boobs. And I was twenty four twenty five years old so again, because my breasts are so small, oh, I thought it was a very funny jobs. They, oh that's when I got my boobs because look how late I went through puberty, I actually have a hope that someone will recognise as more than a reason camera and now why that's your name so that yeah sort so from
I point of ease had Logan, I think tat men. Then you said this is when I got my booms and then there is another one, but it would be breaking the anonymity of a family member but another really really spot on peace, and I am a piece of proof that you had fake boobs and so I was under the impression that you had vague, boobs, yeah and dry fact, which I still to this day find so, but we later clear that up. So we are always right of everything one owing to bring up stories, were that the punchline this is, I was right, yeah, ok, so months are going on we're dating things are great and, You are occasionally making jokes about people with vague boobs or you're making observations? I don't say your body, shame anyone, but between New and Ireland jokes but like we were. I remember what you talking about. We were it yeah like a Kate lucky. We live in LOS Angeles and sometimes when someone walks in with an extreme amount of plastic surgery, and it wasn't bodies, namely what it was like well where similar to those
of all times are exactly. I look really really really tight or it's like Ichor Rambo, where, like you know, it's insane, and I remember what the breaking point, whether first you times. This happened over the course of months. I didn't say nothing I just was like. Oh that's weird. She has fake boobs, but she's kind of making fun of fake boobs are observing fake, boobs or whatever, and then finally, on like the fourth time, it happened. I finally broken said. What do you want me to do now I feel like this is a test. Should I join in common on these boots in Europe What are you talking about? I will say to set the scene at the time we were in Hawaii. I have very very few memories, but I remember this clearly we were in Hawaii. I was wearing a an Orange Rachel Palliative A switch of anyone knows Rachel Polly. It's like this thin t, shirt material. You do not need to wear brought with it. If you are very small or I wasn't wearing a brought with it, it was like a halter and we were in Hawaii, was one of those like brawlers stays where you're wearing a sort of like bikini top and
I said something about oh yeah, like Wu Wu we or something about a girl that had you know gigantic, Take boobs and you said, is this a trap: am I supposed to say, and I said what are you, what do you mean water? you spoke to scientists. Need I say, will you have fake boobs? You had breast augmentation and now you're you're, making fun of this, and I dont know whether this was a joint EU or stay quiet. I just can't do it anymore, you are shocked, shot. What is something I will again to set the scene. I wasn't during a bra at the time? I have no clue Maybe it's just like all skin tags, and I thought you think I did that you think I did this myself and This is what I got yes and then later, but I purchase these. Why was ripped off no eye and then I exclaimed you have friends. I have female friends that have had breast enhancement that have gone from an aid to a b.
And then you so I would have some scars or something, and then I say that I will. I will just add further my point. I wasn't even a b was an egg skin tags and now I think Bobby I'm gonna, give you a b. I y know you think that I have a brazilian I purchased that are so as much as I want to anyone who they were my irremediable boobs. There were beautiful boobs in Europe. They are inordinately perky, it made sense to make one more point: there is nothing to make them sag How are things I've seen small soggy boobs they exist. In fact, there are not that rare. It happened So ok, I mean an area rammers! Maybe years were citizens sit and weigh up high as Bob's you had sat here cause there's nothing to Poland down. Ok, well, anyways. What is really funny about the whole thing is that for months I thought you had fake boobs me and I was very disinterested them. If you recall yeah and then when I found out those things are real and they were that perky I was,
I would say to you I would at all or that Europe should- and you, Sir, I said, will. Wouldn't I have scars. Wouldn't you see scars because this is an important part of the story when you are right, so I'd like to highlight that make you feel good, you said they, you don't need cars anymore. They go through your belly button. I argue that or your bono way, but then I remember name: drop mink Kelly used to be like a nurses, assistant and ice messenger clusters. Listen, I said and, as I said, let me and I know she's done- moved absent. I said. Let me ask me in Gaza and I said: can you go through? Belly Button and she said yeah absolutely so you this whole time assumed that I had a hang related early last. Why not? You had a really high and boob job? that is a real, no evidence of it. Well, I'm that so flat, and now after I had two children for you. I think you and you know that who was who is wrong. While they are not now now you will- and I gotta say, there's still and really fine shape. That's another thing that you
He could go much more. So exciting things are murdering great warning. Now I differ a brazilian ways, yeah we're almost before have as it were, is again Bobby retain ok. So I want the ways we differ. As that I was not a kid who wanted to be an actor. I didn't. I didn't know one. Sir. We live. We both are from Detroit there were many working actors in the whole state seem preposterous to me, nor did I do the aid Ernie that you wanted to entertain. You are always the vast clown you were. You wanted entertain. You are or what you were pulling focus a lot in life. Let's put it that way. So I was deflecting from the fact that I was dyslexic and going to special ed. Sustainable is like a two August, so you today, though, you are what eight years old, when you decided you wanted to act now we're? Yes,
I was always a mimic, so I would I most had it little very little tech aware I heard you still have. Ok, when we watch movies Kristen whispers, almost every line to herself, as we do not realise that it is now. I can't stop it because if I hear it, I have to figure out how can come out of my mouth right. Yours even do it and it has even do it sought to but to what shows with accents. That's where it kills me to watch gamely around. Maybe you haven't much titles I don't really like you, don't sit next to me while we're watching something but only any form nominated best picture. You're gonna be long travel travel, but I I a lot of things as a kid and I was always really into music. I was I heard music everywhere and I heard things musically so eyes
in setting voice. When I was younger, it wasn't eight years old. I think, but my mom knew that I wasn't like big enough to place ports are, I wasn't really succeeding in that play. Baseball Neuro stand up just idea, wider, my god you're right about half that sentence. I did play well. You know, I guess, when I was young anyway, the point, as I joined, the local theatre company and the sweet part of the story, the sort of like hallmark lifetime one is that my mom drove me to stage rafters, which is a local theatre in Royal of Michigan, and so They sell yarn You have to see this urgency. She said do you want to audition for this play, and I said yes and I memorized to Shel Silverstein poem to say on stage, and I was probably twelve which one hundred and thirteen where the sidewalk ends or light Miata hell, if I remember out and when we got there. I saw that everyone was sitting in the audience while people went up and performed
my desire to mimic- or it wasn't really even a desire to perform my hearing things musically was always to myself. It was very, very intimate. I didn't really want. I liked to be funny and make people giggle, but I wasn't in unto performance yet, and the fact that were kids in the audience and adults watching you perform. It made me feel very, very uncomfortable and I started crying left. The theater- and I remember in the did your mom to view a tough low talk, no, which is where does so few memories, my memory so awful. But I remember this very clearly: we were in the parking lot of stage rafters and she said: listen you memorized this. I think that you would enjoy this being a part of this theatre company, you have a bad experience today you don't enjoy it. We never have to come here, and we want even DR pass the street again, that's good! Yes, so she's! Basically, so we can strike it from the record if it's embarrassing or humiliating. Whenever we talk about it again,
and I d better, it's a great tat. It was a wonderful thing and identity memorize it following the inevitable happenings in our children, one audition for things and I I got it. I was cast as a. We did. Raggedy Andy Yos Castors, a banana in the first act in a tree in the second act and in how many lines, but I really liked that sense of community were like Eddie Murphy. You play to all kinds of character, yeah, true men. I object, I loved the sense of community and I loved that people in the theater were allowed to be dorky, and there wasn't like this popularity thing there wasn't this standard, it was like. You were weird and wonderful, and I just I liked making the SAT silent July One and Mr Torres yeah and I was studying music and then I sort of discoverer, dumb musical theater, but through at the same time my mom was recognising that I was happy there and so she's submitted me like a local commercial,
all agents and were yes, because that's the part I'm now reflecting on his your mother's sent us some VHF tapes or no, rather, she had transferred somebody just aims to dvd and on those you're very little kid doing like monologues in front of the camera, oh yeah, but about, but you knew that was seems intentionally with the professional and and say yes and I was probably between like eleven and fourteen when I did that an eye but prior to that here too, the invention of the video camera. I would Disney movies and play them in the background. So I could get some of the orchestra decision and on my Boom box press record and like do aerial and do all of that, and I dont know what I was keeping those four even when I was singing my fair lady in front of the fireplace and I set up the video camera when I was twelve years old, the idea that some when whatever watch that was here alienating. I would be way too embarrassed so again like this. I still have this like duplicity.
Nature about acting where I really really want to do it. But I don't want anyone to look at me doing it. Every I've heard a lot safer yeah, but I'm in first, it specifically envy the profession aspects. So you're putting yourself on tape. You are auditioning, yearn Kmart Circular, holding a bicycle. Her I've seen that picture, so and you're that age. You were very much thinking. I'm gonna do this as a live for a living. Hopefully, when I grow up yo now not at all, I just kind of owing to the steps, not even realising what money we didn't have a ton of money, and I was that was a college fund. For me, I had not even thought about adult life or what I would do I Who would I enjoyed right now and I suppose, if someone sat me down, which is actually what happened when I was seventeen in my councillors office in my high school, and they said what do you want to do with your life? I said I have no idea, they said start with what you
I said I love theatre. They said you can study that I said great have have a have a wonderful day. That's what I'm doing wrong! It was never in a penny of I'm going to do this. It was that those Kmart circulars and when you up for hundred bucks every time you did it and we needed that we needed that money. So you know you're an enigma to me in a lot of ways, and these are the reasons I married you, you have by I estimation a pretty pure draw to this, whereas in May because I'm a comedian are what now I was a middle child in and get enough attention. I very much wanted attention I loved being funny as again and defence mechanism for feeling stupid, foregoing especial at all these things you can use. income and motivation. You had to do this that youth, like was may be treating some kind of wound or helping you he'll, or it's just
it was fine and you didn't like a sport. Just it seems me that you it was fine and you didn't like a sport, will press ahead line. Is that a lot of it is, I you know we ve had this information before about what what is being good, what is alter wisdom, we you know, is it selfish or selfless, because when I'm helping people I get a real boost, I get an ego. Is I like that feelings, some ways. You could argue it's very selfish too, get to that ok great by it, but when you are on stage and people are enjoying something, but you don't think so. made it just made me happy person had many step dad's, as I had many adds it was you and your mom burst the world most time here I mean my dad was there, but yes, that fifty four my life is museum. Well, there you knew I'd like a latch key right, oh yeah.
a more tired hours as a nurse. So none of that it's not like you went their new felt like this. Is I'm getting about the attention that I would normally beginning if I lived in the nuclear family with two doting parents and all that yeah, maybe yeah, now that you say that maybe because- your mom does don't. I knew quite a bit yeah getting attention from my mom was never my problem, I think come. I felt big Oh, I know you're a very tiny of Bilbao, yet it almost invisible will iced. I also have the child's voice. Look young and every time I go to the grocery store or like some calls me sweetheart, that that shit bugs me later. That is no, and that is interesting because on a stage sizes irrelevant now you can be as powerful as that is what it is and it made me feel. Guy was Akron. Magala Yang apply Bethink I probably fell powerful. I felt like I was good. It
thing, because I I I will I have you know not had a difficult life. Like I e I was accepted. I had four ends. I oh, I wasn't your popular yeah, but I, but I was. I never felt really like good at something or special at something, and I think when I discovered music, I particularly because- music is so peaceful to my brain. it. When I was singing or when I was involved in a musical theatre production it. I was not turbulent at all and I wasn't thinking about popularity or you know, divorces or anything like that. It was just ass. It was an escape then it was also something I felt very good at yeah, competent yeah yeah do in one the things that was on this tape, because you had memorize different things as you had remembered line for line a very famously Prescott, now commercial, which I don't. It s all over. The country had certainly aired about three hundred times a day and in Detroit Metro area and am can
he's refresh my memory of how goes like this. These are the amazingly press on nails. They present in second snow glue, no mess, simply press on Lee Supersonic tabs them Press. Only Lee Press on nails, that's all easy on easy off use, em again and again they just won't break or chip. Polish and their nearly impossible to flee press on in a variety of colours for a click easier, but it s on what's so amazing about your memory, allow you ve already run last shrilling glamour length. I haven't said in your reverence several times already that you have a bad memory and I cannot attested that there's like vacations, you don't remember. We ve taken little Europe, your ability to remember that type of thing, because you have done your Lee Press on now commercial for me and about a year. Yet it was right. Therefore you and then you are the exact same. We were the lyrics right lines for movies, because I see it
You can use an ugly, but I think a neurologist would have a real field day. Stuttering, studying your brain. When I'm watching something there's something about me. That is more present. I guess I'm an observer, which is strange because I it seems like I like to be in the centre and end making things up really. I think that my troops, the reality is an observer and I'm just sort of regurgitating a bunch of weird things. I've experienced when I'm acting. I think that's false modesty. I haven't you much better. So I think another unique thing about you, I'm basically just gonna go throw things. I find very unique and attractive about you. Ok, you, you have I'm kind of unique mix of good girl, bad girl. In there I mean you, love rules, pure. You followed them too, though, the tea the letter of the law and yet
you also reason yeah yeah yeah. You also had sexual people you and hung up about that right. Right, yeah, you had some your successor, one night sands, yeah yeah, of course, like that their fun and you also like- would try drugs year. minimally, yeah I've. I've tried, I smoked a lot apart in college right I also tried ecstasy, but it didn't work whether what happened. It's my memory because look, I tried my arms and they were not real mushroom. So, yes, my intention was to try mushrooms with your friends that have done them before now, and then I guess they did work and I only knew that because the girls over with like these, he's don't work. These are just like yard and you don't ever to an addictive bone in your body. Now we met you were a smoker and
and almost a month went by, and I reminded you, you had not smoking a month and you just quit, but had I didn't, I didn't realize how it has. Sometimes I would win, and I was in my twenty- I would smoke cigarettes when I was really stressed because it made me feel like that was something to take the stress away. I think it was just like the movie cliche version of what I should do right those sacks yeah and then also you right when I was restarted, hang out with you, I wasn't stress any more and then you were like. Don't you smoke and distant. Remembered, I remind you that you're a smoker I wasn't really- and it really is like an hour ago- would buy a pack of cigarettes throughout my twenties. Every couple ma so I guess yeah yeah and one I'm in college somebody Ecstasy and I tried it and I can't be sure it wasn't- a tick tock run, but we did go to a date. The main concern, that's where the confusing memories
it's a layer, you don't know the art is high. On the perform early, I told you Loveday, Matthew, Yak Mass in the EU and Martin Sexton. You really really during aid area, but so that's gonna unique People are either goody goodies and they don't really do anything. Are there like me in their scumbags so oh you're, kind of in the middle. You open a trying things yeah, follow the rules. While I grew. How do you make those decisions like one is? Why is it that it sometimes you would go fuck it? I mean it, I'm gonna do ecstasy, I'm gonna go to day Matthews phenomena pound Somali between the parties. I mean it's it's my using my own barometer of what is good and bad. For me. It's also promoting happiness, reducing suffering. If I'm with my friends and some one has weed mushrooms or something- and I met my twenties and raising kid like great, but am I gonna go rapidly
restore, or am I gonna like you know I am I and I literally came and think of anything else, bad like do other bad things, my things, in my causing some mental suffering. If I'm not, if I want to have said so someone and I'm in college and I'm consenting and he's consenting. We don't wanna, have a relationship and it turns out to be one time. No one suffers there. right. You know so end were both interested for a SEC. And then it goes a bit like? That's no one suffering to me: it's happiness versus suffering, always right, you don't, but I do think there was a a point where so you into this this catholic School and your mom's conservative, yeah and Then you, in a way to end my you indeed feel at all like when you read and why you you were alike I'm gonna setting read now know it wasn't the rebellion so much as a blossoming, because when I was in school, this sort of
baseline of what your Todd is. There is good and there is evil, and I just don't believe that anymore and when I went to New York, you know you're you're total these things in a small town at a parochial school about good evil and people to do drugs are bad and- and this has been that is bad, and this is what's good people, yet our high on the list back them big time, and then I went to New York and all I met were these like a drug tat, queer, lovely, gay, musical theatre, boys- and I was like oh here's, my answer. It comes from life experience, it doesn't come from Whatever religion teacher told me was good or bad comes from me, seeing these like lovely individuals that sometimes dress up like women are love, Broadway shows or whatever the me. No, my, oh, my good friends or into I was like this. His happiness and when there's happiness, I don't run from its or a great. These people are lovely. It's all who smoke we on the trilateral, yet woman
it was weird present. They didn't even smoke we'd but other friends. I had in college who were super happy, unbalanced and lovely. They won't like ending up in the gutter right and they were like. We just have widened might be fun and were in college, and I was a great wall in that year. So maybe that's a little bit of the keynote I think about. It is the difference between you and I experimenting with drugs, which is, I know I went straight to the God. Why? I imagine that you knew people who did stuff and day their whole thing was appealing to you and you are all I'll. Try that cause. I like that person. I trust them whereas I was like you know, reading Bukovsky or whatever I was reading guy now or Rowena on the road in there talking my drugs, nothing in. Oh, my god. I want experience, there are no net and have like I didn't it. Lay you you're cliche and the fact that you
like every other boy red on the road and decided to live in your car for a year like that was like super important. Well, I never meant always win lived in their eyes on it or I read and I feel very proud of the year and I would not feel proud of that cause. I don't want to lie, not gonna drop us haven't. We didn't know what I am now because of a piece of literature like I'm writing my the book of my life, and I want to do it by discover were. You are mimicking Disney characters and I was mimicking some authors. I thought were really can share the, but then you know to find out it's probably better on the page, and it is waking up. It means in the afternoon leg rinkitink carbon telling Walmart parking Lot even partner for today for her I never came to an Walmart parking lot. Unfortunately, that's one story that neither I nor my son, you I'm unemployed. He never came to an alarming parking lot so another
about you that I find very admirable is there You are able The two rude on your friends who happened also be competitors of yours in in the mouse. You know basic, dynamic that we are actors and we audition for parts, and we have a lot of friends who are also actors in the audition for sometimes those same parts. And you are it's amazing. You ve, I witnessed to lose roles to friends or be you know in here about to just be very happy for them, ensure them on, and I think, incredible its happiness first, the suffering. So I would be if I lose a rule to everybody else, Emily values World Emily Blunt, which has happened numerous times before
the way I M not saying it like it was between me and Emily. You you did. I read those boy loved hereafter the same yeah, along with a hundred other girls in Hollywood, chose Emily, rightfully so she's a spectacular actress to me. It's happiest happiness versus suffering. I might feel sad because I didn't book it. Emily feels happiness and she's gonna do a great job, and that movie is gonna. Be great. Better because she's in it, because she's spectacular, it's just happiness versus suffering to me, because I kind of weirdly live by what I have discovered to be the Buddhist way of life, which is that you know when somebody's gotta get hit by a bus. You don't push them out of the way because you're helping someone else. You push them out of the way, because that person is, you were all sort of energy I end and someone else gets the role, and I love that person than gray, but me that feels a little bit like acting.
a certain way and then trying to explain it later or after the fact. So then you attach some principles to it like believing this right believe now, because I'm sorry I didn't know that was the buddhist way than when I heard it. I was like oh that's kind of what I feel right, but I they argue that your largely night control of your emotions and if you don't get you just don't have those emotions and the reason I think you don't have those emotions. Is you having? credibly high self esteem. I think that's really the the base for why you're able to eat Isn't when someone when Emily Blunt gets that we're all you go, she she's great shall be great in it. That's great! You don't go, it doesn't make you. Feel less van. You dont go on a piece of shit because she's great plan, which is wonderful. Maybe so how they had. She doesn't have that effect over
she doesn't have anything to do with me right. If I'm a piece of shit, I'm a piece of shit because I'm a piece of shit, I had nothing to do with Emily Blunt I've just been clear on the that my whole life right, but in a new I know from all the stories from your childhood. You seem to have had pretty high self esteem. Most your life. You didn't find yourself in situations where you're being taken a bad job and you are not a victim very often end. I am, I believe, Definitely that you know. We think that we get self esteem by accomplishing things like oh I'll graduate from UCLA that'll make me feel good about myself or I'll. Go I'll, be on tv that I make me feel good about myself or I'll date. This person and then that'll, make me feel good about myself, but in my experience none of those things ever made me feel good about myself. Things that made me feel good are esteem able access himself?
esteem- is doing a steam mobile acts in you actually buy your own judge. You, you feel good about who you are, and so I think that you, I've only overlap, Thirteen years been given an opportunity like help a lot to do, to get sober. That gives me self esteem, exercise gives me self esteem, so you have a ton of self esteem which is very attractive in in I think it's from doing a steamer black. So what are the things you do that give you that self esteem? I seek a lot of things out. terms to my detrimental mean everyone's on a learning curve. Sometimes I sign up for more than I can swallow. I work for it. We have different charities when some you always outright. I always have an that's, because I think everyone is doing the best they can with what they ve got and so in different people reach out to me like gift of life,
just a bone marrow registry. Of course I'll. Do your PS, Ays? That's wonderful! I know a friend of a friend who needed that service ends. Like being an ambassador for baby to baby or for an ambassador for no kid hungry. Those are all worthwhile things. I think they, you enter Brazil as a teenager and how tat can help deliver baby. I did I helping other people, because I see I'm an impasse and I see myself and everyone else, and I can sometimes feel what their feeling and I would want someone to help me it's as simple as that. I think Islam, but it is a counter intuitive its counter, intuitive, to think that you will end up getting everything you want in life by being very self, less Ambien, very observest other people, it s, not that's almost intuitive thing. I could possibly beyond
to me. My thing is: I owe you have to bend everyone's will around you to your wailed. That's what I was that so backwards. It's the only way you get at karma is not bullshit like you can college or whatever you want. Like the energy of your world, that's real life, You know, and I think, if you walk in, she said you a shins with an open heart and someone says like oh I'm stressed, and you ask him questions about it or I have to move and you say I'm not doing anything on Saturday, do you need any help? You're not saying it be as your trying to like get points in the afterlife or or make your life better you're doing it, because you can also look at it like. I can spend the day with this person and make their life a little bit easier young. Out of that, I get self esteem which makes me feel gray like you know like working for path, which you know a rescue dogs year rescue
guy donor, cheering things, and I dont think that the fact that there is a recipe for self esteem. I think that the various for every one right, so you have your laundry list of things you value, and then you go out of your way and spend time didn't to do that. I have a different list everyone's got a different list and I think it's its import to recognise the things you think are important and that are admirable and then put some effort into doing those things because it leads to confidence. It leads to loving yourself can't really and that's all it also breeds humility in and sort of the humble perspective. In that look, I don't deserve this. I don't deserve to be one of the only people who doesn't have to worry about their bills and gets to feel beautiful when she gets her may I've done like I don't deserve that, but I have been put in
position where I was given opportunities and I was born kind acute and I can read a room really well and act appropriately. In social situations in those things have led me to get great results out of my life and I think that that should be spread. Brown. I mean I am a secret socialists like I want. I want to share things, and I don't really think it's fair that I mean as much money as I do, and I want a sort of spread that around and only should make more. I don't I don't like seeing some. bring out. You know what it is part of it is that I just have a really hard time with suffering in any way that you know that's like when we do the pathway which is another place, a help with people assisting homeless? Like I move my friends I gathered my group of friends to move. transitional homeless families into apartments, because that's what I should be doing with my time, Joe in an eye.
Claude all that stuff, but I do think anything else- selfish. I think everything selfishly motivated but- and I thank you can't be you guys- I'm yeah, look how happy. I am exactly four cognizant of saying that if I were young and our listening to you, I wonder if I would feel dawned are overwhelmed by the notion that you have to have this desire to do something selfless because you either have it or you don't, but I do I'm trying to put a spin on it. That says, you know, It's actually selfish in a great way to be of service to other people, because it ends up making you are aware that you can be your Massey? I dont think that you're span is correct. I think everyone should be of service more and if everyone was of service more, we would live in a lot better world mending. He will need to get over themselves. I think, like you, don't need
have that many mirrors in your house. You need to start thinking about other people and that's just that Where's the place that I've, that's always Elaine. I've done. banana. It yields excellent results for me because at the end of those days I feel awesome. I feel really really helpful and that self esteem you were you value yourself in a very healthy way in which means you put up with less stuff is well throughout your exactly I put I don't put up with bullshit, I'm not a victim, but I also I want to leave the earth better than I found it, but I do think when people I think, there's observe this. What tons of our friends who day and you see they get a little happier, little healthier or a little more confident than the people. That day day, they seem to you seem to match self esteem with your partner yeah so to people who feel terrible about themselves will think they deserve each other and nay, and then its is riddled with all these things. But you see
match you know, whatever your own self esteem levels that yeah. Do you think you, because you have excellence at well? You have very good sense. the steam. But then you also have a ton of insecurity that mean I had just I'm here, I'm very prone to self loading for sure yeah. So one of the only the the only professional downside that I've observed is in the past I said I think you're way better. This now- am I think it's very clear to you now exactly away. You argument knows I must say that I was. say that there have been times over the last ten years where You wanted to be everything yeah. You know,
We would were lucky enough to know Tina, Faye and Amy Polar and when we ve hung out with them afterwards, you ve felt like fuck. I need to be as funny as those into like right. I need to do and then there are rules and movies you wanted that are deeply dramatic. The person that's gonna play that role probably really was in a terrible car accident or raped at three dozen times. You know you I also want to play those super dark people were, the champagne roles and How is it that over the years. You have kind of guy. More comfortable beam, exactly who you are I estimation you have like to me what makes someone unique or what makes them appealing is that they have a year. Ec Recipe of funny dramatic, interesting ugly whatever it is. It's that,
meat combination of those that makes that person appealing and often you can be trying to you no exception. Wait, some other aspect of yourself more than you, naturally, our vice versa into me. It's you like you found a perfectly that Europe now which is- You're, just you! You are funny you're, a great dramatic actor. You are a great singer. One of the best singer, you're, not the best dramatic actor. You are one of the best female commands. You know like, I feel lucky to be here, You know it is its ease of life, I'm looking for the easiest lane, I'm not here to suffer. I'm just not, and so yes, if I spend my time after her being hung out with the brilliant unlovely Tina Amy. If I spend my time talking to me self about how I'm not funny as funny as they are, and I never will be, and how can I be as funny- as they are its misery its
and then something unite all come on a tom, and I don't want that. Comparing you're so admirable, I don't wanna comparison. Hang over. You get comparison. Hangovers every lip glass in my drawer is fine. Until I see Monica lip loss and then I want that one, it's all comparison, it's useless, and it's a waste of fuckin time? It doesn't really matter what you ve done or accomplished in your life. You will definitely be other find someone who's much better from that a veto living in a group. That's too big were supposed to be living in groups of a hundred and fifteen, where somebody is the best it everything someone's the best by greater summons the best baker. And now we live in an age of social media where you truly see the best of the best and everyone feels less, then I don't have time for it. Part of it is because I've had come. And then I realized that I can get self esteem and a ton of other ways being a good mom or being why for getting there
it garland, which I still need to do by the way my course much gotta Michael's over the house. By the way this peace was brought you by Michael Slime, he's jack. I want any number of my garage fourteen hundred locations nation, but if it's that I still have time, I don't have time to suffer right. I just don't want to choose the easiest lane. I want to choose things that make me feel good so thinking How I am less, then, doesn't make me feel good right doing a move in for a homeless family. That's moving out of a shelter makes me feel good. More also for me I'm compare myself to other people. I almost every feel worse, but if I compare myself to a previous version of myself, I feel really fucking exactly yeah and I Thank you. Since I've known you ve gotten incrementally better every single year, I've known you well, that's that by what you said about your boobs post kid large in part to do with the things that you ve talked
me about self improvement in the things that, like we ve learned in therapy, but it really even less than what we ve learned in therapy and more on what you ve taught me about self improvement. and a fierce moral inventory and really like a training, but I think everyone to go to really. I should be the most required because be taught in first gray, we act like its treating alcoholism, but it's actually treating treatment in treating the human condition and it's so helpful to desert. What steps you are so much happier when you come out the other end yeah, I'm so proud someday we're both really fascinating and which is yes. So throughout time. homo sapiens, have been here. For you know a hundred and seventy five thousand years for ninety five percent of that we were living in groups of two hundred members, so you were gone
be the best at something you know it may not have been something spectacular, but you are going to be the fastest runner or the person, that's least, afraid to jump off something tall. There is all different ways that you could be exceptional, but now you're on Facebook in there are two billion people. and not only are there two billion people, but the version your scene of their life is curated. So you're seeing them when they do off the waterfall in Hawaii you're. Seeing them get married, your seeing them, you know win a prize or whatever it is or perfect. you shot on a beach were. They didn't have rules that photo and now you're, comparing yourself didn't chew on two billion people at the best moments of their life and There is now a pandemic levels of anxiety and depression among young people right now. Do you think we are that problem unite,
wow. I certainly hope not, although this does border a little bit on the idea that nothing. You can't help everyone, but if someone is choosing to compare themselves, everywhere around every corner. I'm not now allowed to have pretty pictures on my instagram right so, but I, but what I will say a is I particularly with social media. Try to do a good job of it. but in boob tape on and shone like that. Yes, because will aid, because getting everyone should now and be because you know I think people should know what people
like without make up- and you know, unperfected and know that I have been a whatever the problem is. I have let you thirty or forty people that gives you ready for these red carpet year, one or another sound their sprain. I think yeah, it's a lot of work that is as a whole. I think I certainly hope we don't add to it. I try to be real. Why I think we can get? I think you and I often try to balance being honest about how much work there. relationship requiring asked armada. Word: it's it's it's it's so that you could do you know that we ve gone to couples therapy or that you know but what we do to try to you, no daily stay together where we're very kind. Some other, and I do understand as if he were like our shut up. We get a you. Fuckin are in a normal relationship. I dont may hear here's where you and I differ in here's where you're lowers the steam is coming and I don't care if any one saying shut up. Oh you, you know what I mean
I know in my heart the right thing. I am always I am always anticipating what burns lavish. Well, I'm here, I think again because of going to the specialised rumour being from who can family in a neighborhood that was most limit whatever it is. I am always trying to anticipate what shitty thing someone's going to say to me and I have a retort fight on the net psych hard wired. If you dont like what I'm posting eat, no one's requiring you to follow me: you're, not legally, obligated to follow me. I'm posting things. I think that will make people smile Jason it always says: there's nothing funny about perfection and I think, a great way to attack that's away, sort of attack social media because social media in my mind it's you know it consort so negative, and sometimes it's about you know politics, but ultimately I think it should be. something that makes people smile, not that gives them a comparison hang over and I don't think there's anything funny about perfection. So whenever I do posed something, I tried to me
again as real as possible, and even if it is, you know something that seems bragging. I try to bring it down a notch. You also deal with like on people's negative comments on twitter, better than I do just in general. You because you know under really have certainly it does China, laziness of mine. I see you on the couch when you're not much better, and I just don't worry ideology to engage in debate now and into the better people have never even met. Ah, I have no idea of through the crazy guy from several and what the fuck impaired on his shoulder. I treat that person is. If we are stage and rice or seal a debating. But here's the thing: if somebody suddenly nasty its has every says nothing about you and everything about them. I agree with you and when I'm in a healthy state of mine, I agree with you on opposite, but to this point I think you and I tried to tell people that if you think you're goin to be at the grocery store in Meet somebody and that person is going to be perfect for you and then
you're gonna be other put it neutral and just coastline in to your retirement? It's crazy! It's fuckin knots right cause something that I see a lot meaning. Twitter replies is like. I just need to and micro similar. I just need to find my dads and I one? Let everyone know that we, a long road before we were found, contentment when you think you're not looking at it from every angle there. Those simple replies, I think, are you know something women. Sometimes man, mostly women, probably saying it's possible, I think the fact that we lead with how difficult it is and how much work it takes is the honest way to do it and I think we're not were now giving me, information work, not saying look how easy this is and then they respond with. I need to find my deck Shepherd Kristen Rick is when we met it. Was
a thunderbolt from either of us right. We are, but we are at a dinner party. We are basically, I had just broken up with somebody, so I was not in any state of mind to be looking for a suitor. You didn't know flowers, I didn't know who you are. I just wanted. You talked so much. Yes, you told a really cute story about shopping at target and I thought oh, that's great. The scale is like a movie star and she's shops at targets. The gothenburg I'd like the forty percent off discount- and I found that appealing, but I think you're under estimating you're acting like we are giving people a comparison. Hang over, and I think maybe we're just giving people hope like will not on acting like were giving people that I'm I'm bringing up why we are always leaning with that. Oh, ok, cause you. Sadly, we do a good job, we're saying: is it a problem when people say dollar we parted goal? I don't think so, because we're leading with all the imperfections were being honest and, I think, look a lot of good change
Some people, having hope in dark, tie you want to see hope you told me all about. I personally Russ Earth is right. Oh you know what the fairy tales exists for a reason. Myths exists for a reason: yeah, it's fine that there is a fairy tale or a myth that people believe in that warms their sole and the idea that you can find someone who desires seldom self improvement and communication. in and better meant and a life along, side, you and that that commitment is possible because around every corner, people don't do enough self improvement. Rural life in general was very hard to change. You have to have
something generally life threatening before your chain. Why, and I I didn't, though I got my life threatening thing would be like when I met you, I wasn't nearly as healthy and the life threatening thing would be what I lose you. You know if I didn't change, if I didn't become less jealous and more flexible, and I just think giving people hope I think, there's some being a sort of shiny light of saying like this is possible and it comes asked come from both sides. You have to know yourself esteem and meet someone that Disease our view. I think all those things are good things to pump out into the world and I do think what you had when we met that I believed pretty quickly was you are your core very good person like. I can trust you
because there are all these moments when we first dating right that cause your family. My family are so different like when I ask you to get me water, exact last, so my you know, I grew up with a single mother, single mother working midnight as a janitor with three kids wanna baby, one, a teenager and not make of money so the way The EU showed each other that you loved one. Another was to not be a fuckin drag on them to be self sufficient and not pull at the already decimated resources right. So am I a family? Being needy is. Basically, you like saying I don't love you dont value, what you're goin through so we would be early on. We will be debating in we'd both be sitting on the couch and you would say, can you get me a glass of water and I thought that is needed, let's label. That is, I was look. You know I don't know, I'm too I'm saying what my family was like and then yeah yeah when we would be on the couch and you'd asked me to go. Get your glass of water. I was
interpreting like oh, she doesn't value at all, mind. You know what things I'm already dealing with in this is- and I was afraid Indeed, if I got up and got you a glass of water, I was establishing a pattern and that for the rest, my life, you just sit on the couch and never get your own one and I would get a free till I realise that you were a good person like that. I believe you are a good person and in an allowed me to stop question in your intentions, or what patterns, we were gonna volunteer and in then I now I was wondering I think you weren't, seeing like sometimes guys, don't know when their eyes are down a boobs at the thing you weren't seeing at that time- and I mean you see it Now- is there were just many times where we were sitting on the couch and simply because
was excited about the fact that you were my boyfriend and I like to nurture I'd. Look over at you and I'd say: can I get you anything? Oh yeah, you would always say no right, but I will. I couldn't bear dry needy and I would say, are you sure and sometimes still get up and go to the kitchen and get us both a glass of water, whatever it was, but I We need to establish a relationship of nurturing and not dependency, but depending on each other to be the comfort zone where everything is ok. Central super Healthy- and I agree that was that- is you should be, but that but then again that's what Why don't you try me jack? You know what I his hearing was. I don't love you yeah. That is this, that in my family would equal. I don't love you, you would never ask someone to do something for you that you can do for yourself so, and this is where, like an objective outside therapists, helps because
very good, listen to us talk and he could go. Oh, I know exactly where I happened in year. He's hearing this in your here and mine is the polar opposite because in my family, doing things for someone else is how you show them. You love that briars. Also, if you are taking, ninety percent of their relationship- Euro leaving the other person ten percent so give the opportunity to the other person. The nurture you and let me guess you get self esteem from taking care of something at your husband. Get it wives, get it. Parents get it towards kids, kids, get it towards an oh, when you're taking care of something you feel good about yourself. So will I would offer to take care of you? Can I you anything and I were made nine you re were did not like when I try to buy my mom dinner in Sweden allow me to cause she's the mom, and I tell her you
denying me this great pleasure of being able to spoil you now, since you spoiled me my whole array, anyone I was asking you for me when she heard that than she could get on board right. You have to explain it. When I was asking you for water, I was giving you the opportunity to provide and protect for me even in them is just with a glass of water tat. You- and I was always done protect you, I know, but I want you to correct me if I don't want you to punch anyway, I wonder if I like ten guile and I've been in the car when you jumped out of the car when someone is hurled at the goal, but our windshield on Sunset Boulevard and you pull the emergency brake and got out and kick the shit out of him, and I don't like that mood in the morning when I do it. No, I did not see. I would. I would say that that was a moment were me. You grew towards me which I always we shaded, which is here. The situation that make you very uncomfortable me beating a guy up on the sidewalk.
and when I got back in the car I knew I was in very big trouble and you are assessed The last thing I needed at that moment was to hear more bad shit. And to be told I was not a little boy and we got to a restaurant and I had one We saw marry me wrong. I thought we had. We been broke, my leg from kicking the person and you got up to go. the bathroom or so I thought you had gone into the back. Frustrating and had them make a big bag ice and you came back to the table. You decided under the table and I put it on my leg and I just thought that was. So generous of you cause, I'm sure you want to go, listen man! I dont want to be in fights on this What life I'm trying to lead a Michigan firmly. Yes, yes! So what do? I just thought that was
I beg of you remember. I know why she hated it well, you're welcome. I was growing towards you. I was doing that because I loved you- and I know you Didn'T- need to hear that secretly was also the stronger move. yeah. I was of it was a ball arms ago. If I'm not gonna, saying that you're gonna know how I'm seeing bang, but then I did, but then I am also going to do I am also going to get you a glass of water, I'm inclined to get off the couch and get you a glass of water. You need something I'm going to take an active step to show. you how I love you without embarrassment or humiliation, and I'm gonna do some thing for you to show how I provide and protect and nurture you which is gonna, get out of the get up from the table. sandy to go to the restroom secretly come back with a bag of It's not tell anyone else at the table incited to you, because I want to meet your needs. You very briefly- and this is my hope, about how I look at life. Look what I got out of that
That may be one of the most formidable moments of when you fell in love with me and I now have your undying trust, because you know I protect you- I earned that and I earn that. By being actively good to you, you're, not my own doing inside. I love me about my day, like other things I don't mean having done something that would normally I wore until you can get all the things you want in life by being actively good to another person. Back where my perspective comes from, you know I didn't well in knowing me. Had you started, you know picking a par why that was not the right thing to do. I would have just gone defensive and explained why that type of behaviour is required. or your idea. I'm get every problem from the solution backwards. I dont do it perfectly. Every time I try to look at it from the solution backward another nosing, you really did. I want to bring up because it just reminded me of it is a way.
My father was dying in two thousand twelve. I would going back to Michigan a lot in army so you can come with me because you are working and I was working in it. So I was just getting enough time to be doing that and so on was back just before Christmas and I was having a very hard time of it harder than I was anticipating, and there were so many people have asked hospital room. Friends of his and I didn't feel like I was getting the time with him one and one that I wanted to our or they would say a crying about his condition and then I'll be left to comfort them. and I was so mad that I was spending my time with my dad comforting strangers and it was weighing on me a ton, so I left- and I wouldn't built it wheelchair ramp in front of his house, so that I could take him home. and you had talked to me the night before and then I built a wheelchair ramp. I came back to the hospital and I call you and I said, I'm gonna go.
I consider the hospital room and I'm just so bomb that all these people on There- and I just want time with him- and I was pretty emotional you're saying you didn't think you can handle it. Yeah and someone knocked on my window. I my car, and I too, and then my left and looked in their ways you you're standing there on the phone. I thought I was talking you an ally, but you had secretly flown home and you knew where the hospital was an. You surprise me, because we now is really nice welcome. But when I spoke to the night before, again I'm an impasse, I can tell what's happening in your voice. I could. I also knew you got. You are acting very sexy. Sexy wasn't the word. You were acting very nonchalant about the fact that your father was dying and I didn't say thing, but I could obviously see that that was a misrepresentation of what what what the emotions that were actually in there and and I saw
monitoring that closely from into since closely from a distance rye air up close, some personal from Athens very very far away end. I idle you didn't, say anything in particular other than I just could sense it. I guess could sense that you needed me like you'd, like Do you need me to get you ice without telling you? I just could sense it, and so I just book to fly and flew on a Friday night and then the highlight was we women together and you are very pregnant, like seven months pregnant and then my dad, who wasn't talking at that point right in here, felt your belly for about an hour. He was very attracted to you to align. He may that when we first started dating Christine
home to Michigan and thought I'll be nice and I'm too impressed acts. As I do often, I said I'm going to get to know his family, while I'm here so that I can again I'm going to do something that seems selfless so that it will feel selfish because I gained something I'm going to get to his dad, I'm gonna come all the way. Like I spend time with your dad and he's gonna, look at me, adoring land. That was my plan and you're dead, and I made a date with your dad to take me out to some disgusting chain and one of the first things he said he I was getting in to his car, which was like full of old. utter bottles and let it pleases you said to me, was: oh, I got surely this x ray low. Look, my yet any! Now these extreme from the back stairs, all Bugsy was full of extra easier access to divine about other men
the chain restaurant and we talked about you and I politely watched him skewer, the waiter everything's, he hates waiters and everything later you are wrong, and so there is no level observers known as suggesting the daily special was like pushing something on him in a way that he making them choose a different career path or some Fisher to Southern. Very were the card. If you don't want the cods written in his identity, yes, so am, I a then went home and he dropped me off, and I remember like an hour later, I got a text that said pick you up again to Morrow was making a second day ass. He had to go out with him twice in a very short trip home early monopolized yeah. He was Latvia, user attracted to you. I think I got in the way of competent. He
The only way of competing with you, the other funny thing about there was his at the beginning of what I was going back home. You are just barely pregnant, like you weren't showing, and we were trying to keep a very secret we want. I wanted now right, and I told him- and I said you know- I'm gonna tell you this, but you you can't tell anyone, ok in and then later he was in the hospital and as I was walking the hump Zygmunt this room, I passed three different nurses that were like congratulate life balance right, yeah he's not trustworthy, no address him at all with the secret. It's all right. He had other quality and everybody everybody's got their stuff. You know you know some of the world's worst thing. I do not intend in talking to you about this, but the worst thing I think I ever did in your present exactly what it is.
So we have a long standing issue with leaving the house on time. I think it's a very male female, normal thing, I'm not good at it admitted Lena. Could I am about ten, I'm no Roderick about mean on time or early to places have yet to appalling. That's a waste in your late to a fault. So this is a recipe for disaster and it always rears its ugly head. particularly when we go to the movies cause I'd like to get. There were plenty of time to get that popcorn and give my soda, and I don't see the point of my day when I have to get to a movie theater twenty five minutes in advance for the mere starts in a light theatre, especially since, even during that twenty five minutes, when I have like just patronized you a minute, fine, we'll get their whatever time you want and, like you won't. Let me go and look at the movie posters because you like its announced on our way to
more of him and his conversations you just another story, so we were. This was one of our worst times of leaving the house. I was very pleased by the time we pulled out of the driveway and I was driving. We were going to see never say, never the judge us even in a policy for the second time cause I enjoyed it so much yes and I was driving you know either faster than normal to get their excite was afraid, we're gonna be late, and I flying around this corner at Argyll and something in Hollywood in it's kind of a gentle right turn? I think it's probably a fifteen, my our Jeremiah Gan Yucca and I went through that about fifty miles an hour, and there was a huge group of pigeons in the road and in my life experience up to that point, you can't hit a pigeon Even if you wanted to hit a pigeon, you can hit em, they always get out of the way of your car and dumb, and
on this occasion. They did not get out of the way, and you hit upwards of one on how it was light. It was the world at the when she all my God, even and now I feel even worse than I did then it was it was. brutal. It was. It was a terrible terrible thing. I lost my brain, we were already fighting so win. happen. I knew this is over like she may leave me over this. It was it bad. It was really rough. We got you an exaggerated many sound, like running over like come along. Cones or somebody who Africa and we got out of the movie theater and we were meeting friends there who had kids and we sat down. I wasn't speaking the abuse and I gotta talk to ride through the first third of never seen ever young.
I apologize like a hundred and I just want to speak to you right now. That's right and one word. This is more a story about the power of that movie. Right, We were by the end of entire movie. We were laughing and crying and cheering about Bieber only told us out of it the next year, while the what my one regret is that I thought about right after we did it making you get out and check for signs of life, and I didn't do that and I'm very regretful even to this day, because thinking one of those pigeons could have suffered a yellow happiness versus suffering because of something we dared randomly? We did yes, I was ten minutes late. I wasn't there. Twenty five may it's an advance, the ARC light theater, but you speeding up like a fucking Christ,
the person to try to get to the theatre, which I did not think was an ok expectation. Tat was an uncalled for speed for sure, yes and then we guy still, I was so sad dunned as to what happened. Just occurred in my life that I didn't have the wherewithal on. This is a very very few moments. Do I regret where I didn't have the wherewithal to like, find my moxie and say what I meant and what I wanted, but right after the documentary which works Hilda Tibet, we released speaking terms, Yandah movie ended will because I realized I was gonna leave you over this, but what I was going to do it was tell you, we will dry, which I dead, we're gonna drive past, and make sure none of them need to be put out of their misery, and if they are, you are going to get out of the car and you are going to do with your bare hands. Yes, I guess: if you're gonna kill them in the car, you should be able to kill them. Your bed We should have eaten umbrella, your responsibility and we drove past.
and none of them, but it shows when I arrived in the road yeah in just when I thought, thank God, this movie kind of got us back to talking. Are you set out? We they go back now, how psychology and you're gonna going back to me nothing of the kind of human origin, a real live you're gonna either also perform CPR or you're gonna break their necks right, and that is gonna be what something that you're gonna have to deal with. Yes in and we went back and there were a few dead birds and luckily none of them were suffering. I didn't have to do anything morbid ass. It turns out that was rough, yeah yeah, but again you In light of that I did the pride the worst thing I could do by your standards as I murdered some innocent animals, which is a big, no, no you're, an animal amr grown into one. I felt terrible but I was too worried, relationship was over. I think to truly when the birds and the way they deserve, but again
was grateful. The way you handle that it could I gotta much different way. Yet but you can feel sincere. I was that I felt really really terrible none that right, yeah. Well, I also have my head when, like will you didn't hit a kid this It will serve as a learning lesson that, yes, I can try be more on time, but you cannot freak out and panic like before late. For you know I don't even know what would be an event that we'd have to freak out that much like a really is in one. Is there isn't, but now that, but that not one serves them better. I've been through a group a burn out, but that does I'm not trying to make that as an excuse for like I can be late for anything, but even if it was a really important, it's still can't design. Of that amount of
Craig Behaviour, the right, and I knew that that was though I didn't need to teach you any of that lesson that lesson learned by those tells them early. I knew, as I got back in the car after being a guy up, that that was, that was not the right move and that it was in the great thing is, I you put me through such severe situation that I went. Oh, this is never We're gonna happen again in my relationship, so I can handle this will again, as we are saying early, you do at the end of the day, trust there. I am a good person at my very much yet what we didn't say that you just said that out of the blue, just now, no, I said and the reason I was way why I've been saying about you. I asked that yes, I also believe that you are a very good person at your core and you are also a person who may be more than any one. I've ever met learns from your mistakes and learns from your experiences. So I actually knew that, like oh I'll, never have to have this fight again will never talk about whether
beating someone up is ok like this. It's I don't know it just it felt like something had been put to bed and we had gotten over something together. Lay automobile or other new actually run. A couple. Different occasions have said, I could be tomorrow, but I also appreciate it was when one or two a case. three thought. It was ok which made me feel good timing. I thought, she's rational about this, like there may be as election, where I am not someone out all the dude I caught take an obstacle. pitcher ally acts, either day and night confronted him: yeah allay axe, Alex's personal sheriff, yeah, yeah, yeah I wouldn't mind you if I were led him out right like that. I think it's well documented you're a bleeding heart liberal and I'm pretty close to a bullet bleeding heart liberal. But one thing I find unique your perspective and I am really appreciate. Is you are, the Baltic Sea both sides itunes and
I too find the middle lane and a lot of these situations you're not afraid the buck. The party line right and I do think something. That's why you heard about where rats they is everyone's trying to evaluate what the impact of social media is in all this technology is in and the thing that I think is happening, that's that's weird is, computers run on binary opposition, a one or a zero. That's how they function. So there's only two options and I feel like somehow that is invaded ourselves. We're now humans. More than ever are everything is binary your left or your right. You are a conservative or you're a liberal, you're good or your evil and. I think that you have a very healthy the view on that people are both good. an evil and that it is you don't need to be. You know bra. the same or this persons per
an eye, revere them and I will defend them warm against anything or this person's just evil. Well, I think that that comes from shutting the skin that I grew up with, which is people who do drugs, a bad people. Her gay arm sinners, whenever it is and then realizing happiness is everywhere and really the only two things you need to focus on is happiness and suffering. It's not good and no it's not blackened way. It's not redder blue, it's happiness and suffering period, and I also think that you know and the one thing- I like to talk about in the age of social media is just like is Click Bade is, is the lack of nuance in any conversation, because the Congress on taxes, zero contacts, the new HANS, the details there very important to a story. It's like you know you could say hey.
see this movie, it's about X Y, see and you go. I'm not really interested in that, and then you see it. You see two hours of contacts you see two hours of the new ones of the movie and then you're like that's the best movie. I've ever seen this story, underbrush Merida remain have the worst one want exactly owners story surrounding something is vital its. It is the existence of said things, so I think it ray conversation rattling publicly right now, like you know your network politically you're, never going. find a politician with a perfect voting record, and you know why, because where human, beings. We are all apes and at five years ago, when that person voted on the wrong side of the line, it's because at that point they were probably doing the best they could with what they had and the bottom line is. Do you trust them now? Do you trust that way back when they were allowed to make a mistake. I also think we know allow each other to make mistakes yeah. I personally want island. I think it's part of the whole curated lifestyle thing which is like we even have a free and we have a friend whose very very smart we both respect a ton and
He found, I guess Facebook as these time capsule things right. Where they'll send you a picture that you took eight years ago or whatever and he had gone. onto a Halloween party dressed, an indian from the sub continent, the wheel of a cat. It was pilgrims and Indians Thanksgiving Party. right and then so his clever taken was oh, he was in the Indian from India yeah yeah and he was me certified by this. He took it downright. He went through his facebook and got rid of it, which is surely the ethic. The whole thing to do. I suppose, but It scare me in that no you're, still a great em pressing person with that. In your background, you know that's something That's a decision. You made seven
where's the go that at that time felt right and now by today's standards, it's probably not right and now we're going to pretend, because it is just pretending that it didn't happen and it's not you're, never getting the full story. So now, you're evaluating your own, I've next to these other people's lives, who have been added in well, but I also basically been avenue, there's a medium even to what you are talking about, and it is yes, I did it if ever brought up. I could offended in saying you know what cultural appropriation wasn't really like What discussion back then and it felt okay for some reason, and I dont know why it felt ok. I just know that my I didn't have malicious intentions and now Oh, I see how it could possibly cause when to suffer, and so I pulled down because I dont have any and and for anyone to be offended so I see were actually even pulling it down. Is ok, but it's like that. The high
in all of our mistakes or yeah, is Mary. It's like that led the pressure of also hears yet another person who's not made any mistakes or in a bad judgment. Call you now what I mean I've made a ton of bad judgment, calls have to and what one I love most about. You is your willingness to cite specific mistakes, to talk about how you evolves organ every that thing you can do. I like I now and I d I just I think we dont give ourselves and each other enough forgiveness and and because the bottom line is no one's perfect. No one's, no one's, gonna, spotless record, what things do you d? Is there anything that any cared? resting of years that there that is associated with you, either publicly or even
in your friendship group that you feel fraudulent about. I do I feel like a fraud when line embed yeah, how outgoing I am because in my head, for years in the sunset of my life I'm really, I think, I'm rules at all. Light yet more sunset, I'm realizing I'm not as outgoing as I think I am I in That too, this is a stupid one but it's just the first one that came to my mind like I enjoy coming and cheering giving up every one up and being the life of a party in being bubbly. But I'm Realizing I don't enjoy it passed a certain point. I never really know what that point is, but I'm really recognising that I am a fifty percent in introvert and I'm becoming more comfortable with turning on plans, saying no to things or even being in You also have the impression yeah for sure, but that's not necessarily linked to my depression that actually fixes I depression. Roma depression comes out more when I,
I'm trying to be everything for everybody I'm trying to stay bubbly in the life of the party in the Smiley one can sometimes I just don't want to be. Sometimes I wanna, even when your home and we have friends over. I want to return, it into my room to read a book and be quiet with myself and I'm realizing in this these sunset years. I'm that I'm ok with that. I don't know I. What would you SAM fraudulent about? As you know me very well, and you also do a better job of pointing out my flaws. The night I don't have to. I was not on the business of telling you you're flaws, I'm just curious. I mean there's a million times. I'll feel fraudulent, I think when I see all those relationship goal hashtags on our thing, I think oh fuck, I have to be the perfect partner and I'm not the perfect market. And I'd be now. Do regrettable things there waiting different glasses, because I actually think the reason that we get those hashtags or whatever it is it's because we're so honest, a bow and clear
thou how difficult it is run because no that's what I'm really proud of you form boys, being honest publicly about having depression and being on medication, because I could imagine being eighteen years old in knowing your and frozen in, seeing your tv show in thinking on foot cause. I I have these spells where I don't enjoy anything in life, and I don't want to get out of bed, and I hate myself and you know Secondly like her when that is part of you yet will that came from you who, because if you'll remember I was about to do SAM Jones, the long form interview show and I sat down and anything to talk about. What should I talk about me? as I had utterly nauseated when actress talk about their craft too much luckily unite on how much craft that's your money and you you said why? Don't you talk about your depression? an anxiety, and I said that's kind of a great idea. In fact I didn't recognize it until you said it, but it's. The most responsible thing I can do is what I don't
do is make young girls or anyone who might look up to me think that this is easy or perfect. Or natural. I work very hard and again the work less hard in my the sunset years, because I've done it for so many years. I D sit happiness. Is a choice to me just loving someone is a choice. Muriel, get on my nerves sometimes, but have chosen to love you and I love, loving you and It's the same thing with happiness. You can wake up and you can feel whatever you want, but choose to be happy too, to see the good in the day. To me. That's too simple. I think he I dont think you can choose to feel good. I don't think you can choose to get sober. You can choose to not have mental. I think you have to actively take action whatever,
daily soldier, so wake up. So for me, wake up feel depressed, I'm choosing not to feel depressed today. What am I gonna? Do I'm gonna go down and run on the treadmill for ten minutes, I'm in a run around the block. You make that choice. Then you execute the actions that that will get you there. Like me, I have a check list when I feel like shit. I go through the checklist, unlike all they called another dude whose training it's over on. I haven't done that. Have I worked out today, Prime done ever taken a walk. Have I done something? I don't want to do for you. You know. I know through that listen, ninety nine percent of the time, I'm not doing all those things that have proven to result in happiness or contentment. Another reason that I've got over a lot of it is: will aid, because I'd taken medication that helps balance me and then be that I have become habitual about the things that make me feel good right. You know when you all that story had an attack. Last on SAM Jones, there was fall out,
and I think this is somehow both of us were from mere mom sisters. Allow made us that's right, and I'm curious what your opinion is on, how much of the story is your story in your entitled the talent and then what an obligation. Do you have to the people in your life for their privacy and how do you make that call of wonder it's for the greater good or because I one time told me It was on. Also Jones FUCK, you, SAM Jones. I told them long story, and it involves a lot of my step dad's and there was stuff about the violence, and then I think my mom initially was embarrassed by it and she's a little bit mad, and then I felt guilty then, but my mom's, such an amazing, evolved human being that, like a week later, she she
call me, and she said you know what I was wrong as it is your story. I'm hardier storing your part of mine in your entitled to tell your story, eggs from your mom. I know I've, I it was really because I had felt really guilty, but it is tricky cause you and I chose to be me now in the public light and its tricky right, tricky, aye, aye, ten, to lean tour will. First of all, I am a person, I'm a big believer in that nothing should be taboo. I'm tired of how little we talk about sex in this country are tired of how little we talk about mistakes. Why you The trouble- and I am not supposed to say out loud on this- are not allowed to see a in any public format, whether I'm doing a radio show interview or on tv, because yours, us to remain anonymous at the level of press and television ah, but
I think that was a rule that was created a nineteen fifty when you could lose your job because you're a previously ally and we don't live in that world- now looks up to the way that your handling your life, the end user. Ay ay and looks into it and benefits from it to me prove as in the pudding. So, yes, the fall out that Europe also publicly relapse, it will not be a failing of eight it'll, be a failing of dank shepherd, not working the steps and a right right. I re the followed you're talking about because I made a mistake in the when I was. I had understood will first of all, I have a very bad memory and that's not an x to use its just the truth, but my my mom, I thought had said to me. My grandmother was one of the first people they tested Electro shock therapy on and Maghreb I was depressed and she did drink a lot. She was of a wonderful woman lie get into the fact that she was a wonderful woman, I'm others Vine IDA, monetize Rio by rightfully
certain members of my family were saying you. We feel like you, sort of slandered desire, more love, yeah, yeah and always at all, and I didn't mean to act, but the truth is that they wanted they, they suggest Stu trying Electro shock therapy on her? She never did it, and so that mean detail kind of stuck out Iraq, his eye misrepresented it because I didn't, I understood to be something different and also you're getting information. That's going through the filter of your mother. anyone, then here's a story from you, and I am here to drastically different version generally of the story. So do you know you have to recognize. It already went through a filter before when, through your fair trade, and also I miss heard it and by the way it wasn't really the point of the story. The point the story was: this is a generational illness right by its bite, always taking a step back I can understand how members of my family fell like ice, I misrepresented someone that they loved fair.
very much and that it sort of like tarnished her record or something which personally, having known my grandmother. I think that she, because I know she was a good person. She would want any time she struggled to be used for the betterment of other people. That's just personally what I believe. So that's how I sort of fell. Ok after that interview, even after having been called by members of my family, saying like. Why did you say that it now feels because anyone who knew loved my grandmother, love or because they knew or because it was wonderful, although I did sort of have to apologize is because I said something that wasn't true: they didn't test Electro shock therapy honor, but they had suggested it, and that was a point of the story in that there has been a sort of Sierra Leone, an imbalance in my family for awhile right and it can be hereditary. I mean it's also environmental, but whatever yeah, but I purse.
Only don't believe things should be taboo. I think we should be a lot more open and honest. I mean look like I'm, You know like a really good happy go lucky. Bubbly MA am Goody Goody and I can say, with confidence like I've had one night stands an idle dozens and dozens while I might as well anyway. I am all size mission so like I'm not into sledge shaming. I think women should recognise their sexuality just like men and even if men say that had what like there, I didn't do anything wrong on and I dont want to lead societies, view of something make me there. He'll never underestimate the being a human is messy business, which is fuckin messy business in here can affect a ton of mustard. and errors in you gotta, forgive yourself and you got if you're gonna, forgive yourself, you gotta, forgive other people. You then I forgive you for guinea to adore you. Let me
this. Basically Doria than anything else another step down. I have one final question are pink you and I disagree, animals everything What percentage of the time are you grateful for that dynamic, in which percentage of the time do you wish I would just shut the fuck up and do whatever it is. You want to do. I was gonna, say fifty fifty, but I don't think that's accurate. I think it's. Seventy thirty! Four. Realistically, sixty five, forty five six voters want em. Wherever we go now, fifty five sixty or sixty five percent and I'm incredibly grateful for the dynamic
the amount that you challenge me and the ways in which you show me things in a new light and your ability to Each me things and thirty. Five percent of the time, I've, you're being belligerent and difficult, and I wish you would be quiet because I've done a lot of dishes end I've done a lot of things around the house and I wish that you would just be quiet and help me. I've been giving them exit out, the most in you and I as when we want to reality, show which we watch a bunch of yeah where's, your at you. An end up in the business of judging these people's character and kind? making predictions about what that who they will be rancher episodes and I'm you always were because you see wolves, icy sheep amounts because of the people. We were exposed to you around a lot of wolves piles around a lot of sheep. I look for the good and people, but I am often arguing look
you don't know how that was added. We are in the television business, you dont know the moments that were added it out of this or how this was. Then I just spidey senses illegal under the dunes and somehow all IRAN are either Wanna, see these guys eyes normal right away and sometimes you're right. But then there are certain times where, like we're watching stranger things end, I you know- and I now because I like the boyfriend- is a good person in your letter. Always gonna be the villain, and I said now I love this. Data is not going to be the villain. I do love, em low level a guy's yeah yeah it some. If I can list your crushes really quick. I think it's amusing Jim using Walter, you, whites, amusing, will one is England. Shootin you're over the moon about has very sexy. Yes, very sexual, very sexy, Vincent De La Freedom, the very sexy yup tee. I beg ten sexy, yeah yeah resolve mad yeah yeah, also so
you know when people ask me if I was jealous of you making out guys and movies or whatever it is. I say to them. I wouldn't even know what to be wouldn't even know where to begin and who I should be very hot of catches on this, surface do not reopened. English urges their opposite human beings in every way and down. You know they're both in Europe. There are both a balls I for you all. I could never say like like Hanover Letter hang out with an Anna fell player cause. I know she's nuts about seven foot tall buildings, man I know just now. For me. It now lie complaining anybody. I could be absolutely anybody any one year and better standing terrorist action. Now will its liberal.
Maybe because I gotta be waste my ebbing away, some energy even try to predict ia, and I know you are attracted to anything with legs, both male and female. None of it bothers me because I can't get around a heartbeat as a prerequisite, but anything beyond the agro voice. It s fun and games if you ever data yeah that was is high and, Kenzie spectrum is me. What does that mean? maybe Kinsey Spectrum of being gay right. I don't know how exactly a breaks down, but I'm whatever the last number is before you actually like dicks, I'm right there at the precipice yeah right I have. I went to musical theatres, that's true yeah, but even maybe those guys did like Dixon. They just want open about it. Now now, nay, they were straight. Both married women. Ok, then, on the maritime but I am that last stop on the on the: U R Terrain yearly year. This paradox cause you're, also the last up on the Manly S, most guerrilla type guy. You couldn't yet because not a lot of guys talk about being
someone up on Sunset Boulevard, very few people actually do it. So you're lodge you're a fool, forges Bactra its fortune, and I was raised by a woman. You never know about me. Yes, that is your mouse, and I know that I know your mom. You met the version of me without my mom, and that was my dad and even he had heard about anymore. I oughta have in eleven years MRS Mann, that fought any and every one at costs go that was dared, go, get a sample why he was getting a sand law. You were gonna Vienna, fight with that's just is exhausting to me like I am ass, I care there well, it's threw him that I, as you know, We are for the whole time we ve been together. I've been on this I've had this goal. of relaxing and traffic, which has been almost impossible for me to do it. I have, I have bad dna. I really think I have like something I mean we pray was useful. Twenty thousand
years ago during the Pleistocene or something, but now it's completely useless, but my father was the boy through for me, because I was in traffic with him in Michigan, and he was big coming glued. I mean I really thought he was going to have his fourth heart attack while driving a car, and I was looking at him- and I thought- oh, my god, they got you him off isn't suffering at all the guys about. It Mary way he's. Not even thinking about my data. My dad, it has two gallons accord, is all in his blood right now his his heart it's one, eighty five and he's on the verge of coronary collapse. he's losing but if he wins even a view the guy off in the guise scared and he drives away in victory. Is his he's? fucking losing his body is deteriorating because of this state. He lets himself get in. and I was driving to my meaning and traffic was pissing me off and I have. an epiphany where I said
Well, you live in LOS Angeles and the traffic spend this way for forty fifty years in its going to continue to be this way for probably another hundred years so who's gonna change. In this scenario I lay trafficker Dax and that's a suit for a healthy way for you to look at it because at that works for you, and I look at it a little bit differently, which is like one. My when I was young and my mom said. If you ever talk to tell a marketer and your annoyed be nice because You dont know if that person's parents died. Yesterday, you dont know if that persons in a wheelchair and having a bad day, like you, don't know anyone else's life, and I think that's a really good lesson that we should all be talking about more you don't know you don't know it's gone. come with me. I know what's going on with you, so when I'm in traffic granted, I don't have the dna that you have, but there are certain things that piss me off. It might not be traffic, but sometimes it is when I'm
driving, and somebody cuts me off. I don't know if there's not a pregnant woman in that car, maybe they're trying to get to the hospital. I don't know if they're trying to get home cuz their kid broke their wrist like it is medical emergency. I don't know, and I don't care they are on fire in their car yeah. I know waiter, rescue someone from a well if they're in the left lane going under the speed limit, they deserve the death penalty. I now and I am live in, My response to telemarketers is: oh, my god, I'd love to talk to you about this a card on busier and how can I get your home phone number and I'll call you during dinner, we'll talk about it plain. Where did you Actually as much as you hey, I take it that you have to have a job here, there's other jobs. Other debate on me to be met with Sars. I guess that's what I hear you shouldn't be aggressive and in hostile towards wards none, but if you can make it a joke about it, maybe toward the end as much as you do hate my reaction to other drivers. You do, like when I say to people, oh Howard,
you enjoying this. Is this your first I'm driving yeah, I kind of like that yeah or you say, to tell marketers or someone you're on the former is your first day and then they it worked. None are no on earth when that, when you're, having trouble like me to her on the phone or something, but as long as it did, if you feel like the other person's going to enjoy that and not feel like the blood of a joke, again happiness suffering, that's the scale, I appreciate you doing this. I know you don't want to be sure you don't love being on podcast. No, I actually do. I was just now with me. Now I was nourisher fear. Did you think I was gonna trying to get you to admit. Sent me didn't want him. I thought mommy. came in with a little fear. I think me because I feel stupid around you a lot because you're more oak smart than I am? I am a lot more emotionally intelligent than you are, but it takes a while to him
however, that emotional intelligence- and I thought I dont know if I thought that I would ask me a lot about my life, and I wish you wouldn't have answers that measured up to what you were trying to get at. The truth leads because I wanted to please you I wanted you to have a good podcast unaided No, if I could do it. Luckily, we started right off the bat by bickering about something very sincere and that that you know leader had a good idea. The other day we are in a good sized fight, and then we worked it out, and I said that, in the past year we should. To start recording when more fighting in home. She we start broadcasting. That's helpful, goes like watching those rollers gate at moonlight, roller reincarnated help any listen I'll, be your relationship like me. Now anyone go, buy a ticket and go rollers getting but fear. Huldah me. No apology help could help. Honourable maybe we should do that. I doubt this did it, but still further will hopefully was entertaining. I'm gonna have you on every other week. Ok, there's your dream
sickly more popular than we were really how ok, ok. I need you gonna Michael's tomorrow, that Europe might stop this you're, too Michael's Rayner State. Even if you'd like to hear my good friend and producer Monica Patman point out the many errors in the pot kiss you just heard. I Monica high did. I did I make a lot of our own, Exclaims, you did. I really do you think I had to be honest. I was, I was pretty clean, well, usually way more out on a limb. I think also well as you said in your introduction, this Kristen Bell, episode here is the first one. Yes, so I really am. I really nit picking
ok, you're, gonna, take me to task. Well, yes, I don't know- and I found this is really relevant or important to hear but try in her ok. So at the beginning, yeah, you guys have a discussion about yarn stores. Aha them Michael's Michael's, but you you said, best placed to go for a yarn, is Mcdonald's or talk about IRAN and actually the mess plays red is an obvious joe now now you think a lot of their cars and racists and talk about it seemed really sincere. I think tap about, would appreciate a clarification of giving you the best place to buy yarn and LOS Angeles. Baha is the knitting tree ogre with not a sponsor just out of the goodness of delay, unnecessary, ok in those fields or gather downtown outlay
three good yarn places, none of which talk about Madonna's or Michael's, hey that ok growth I hope that drives a tunnel yarn business to those folks gazelle, sound small mom and Poppy Dante and they all using. It is well known that the third anyway now what else the gathering of you also labelled this very room or in an attic which I like that you call it that, but this is not an ad. This is converted attic. I I I will. Are you to the death? This is an attic space. Yes, this was Designed to look look across the driveway at the regular house, you see the same pitch in each of the rough line. That's just all attic up there, that's exactly what this was built to just at the reform of the house, in its all additives. Unama, converted the spill this. On top of the garage, specifically as an
Absolutely no. I bet you'd. This was converted into this room in the seventies. Not nineteen, twenty we'd have to dig in it historical it might have been built after well. What I'm saying this was just an empty. Adequate then was converted into this room, I'm an app ass jack. We need a third saying that, were I correctly, that's Ben survival, withdrew further wiles is nomadic organ after do something else to do. Clean pause were quick, real added value, because I wanted to bring hey measure you don't have one here. Do you know I've had one here, I never Leon Lincoln, took it you are not, the agreement would mean if we could deal with my feet, are exactly tormentors homer.
so saying she was scenario is precisely died. Fifteen feet: you guys just said a bunch of random numbers heard a sham answer me. I know you didn't I'll, go back and listen double driver pretty sure you deny what you get is simply stay. You ve, measured unanimous. It was fifty to correct the cracked measurement, is fifteen feet from Christian the come out from crest and to the toilet, and you can see it for my she say: ok,
in an hour ago. Here's what here's another away, you're on! Ok, I'm sweets this one's a weird on, because you didn't you guys just had a lot of interpersonal things, our kind of YO, YO, YO, you're in a year and a unique position? No, these cause you're our best friend and have been for years now, The objective outsider, yeah, ok, what this is really correction bay. did want to side with someone know. Well that was happening to help my listen, the brow,
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in four Kristen, oh great Yale, its labour, I dont normal. I don't think I'm gonna normally do that, but in this case I will, as I feel, comfortable doing thou with her. Her memory is terrible. yeah, so I had to check some step a checksum step stuff with her mom. Oh wow, you really when I did so again this is just another human who is experiencing this. At the same time, I can't like look it up on the internet, so I don't know for sure, but Laurie, The accidents mom said that Kristen was thirteen when she started playing music. Which is miles away and Christian recalls and considerably. I feel like a year or something yeah. Yes, I beers off at a period where five years represents he half of your life yet either. hundred percent off she's about me in high school, when she started which to me
makes me even needs even more gross cause than she's that good and she started pretty lady of em eggs are more of a broader yeah exactly I tried it the name of the shell silver steam poem by language. I guess she did not have that information for me. Oh ok, so so ACT, Romagnoli yeah. I wanted you to tell people what that is, because I think everyone knows what that is. So you is in general is if you have a tumor on your pituitary gland and the pressure on your pituitary gland causes we are glad to make way more hd age than it should in your body continues to grow and grow and grow after puberty or even excessively pre puberty and a very famous for with actual manually- is Tony Robins, who we like and worship yet it here I read about it- was at all right: yeah, ok, good night,
it's kind of permanent you can, you can gonna visually identify it be because, generally that you have a really big mandible right here, John, your job on and on now under the giant, famously had outgrown vaguely and so did the tall man the world, his name like I'm wrong, oh shit, you're gonna! one out of a hat. anyone know what Waldo percent or some ways the talisman, what only I was the tall man, the world. You know from my kid my childhood and I spoke a world records and he had it. The severe why he was. He was maybe over eight feet tall mean Robber, Pershing, lap, Ludlow, yeah, wide labelling. I set Walter Robert. personalized any mother, Robert Pershing and What was he wasn't? Eight feet, somebody he was eight four to eight foot, a lesbian,
Only fuck, that's my feet tall! That's an that's crazy! While are you sure, Donnie Robins has a yes, because I I thought he look like he had it in them. When we were watching the documentary I looked up, I googled does took Tony Robins Havoc Romagnoli and he does, and he opted least anything. I read online to not have the procedure to remove that tumor from his pituitary, my brow jack. It wasn't. He did not know Now, I'm remembering he didn't have something: that's basically called or again Magala, which is his organs hadn't gotten he obeyed. That's were taken his fatal or pathological interesting great, great. Ok. I also This is just me because I'm not a religious person, you and I'm not smart enough. Oh this, but a parochial school.
the law is at church based school. I mean that was kind of clear and the way she was talking. Bout of everyone knows what a parochial school is: a non secular, school, yeah right gap, grey it is worth Rowan really quick. Just to give you some credentials that you did get a four point. O through all of high school, thank you, I even a little higher because you had a hall ass, you call it not high school nice warm you graduated college University of Georgia with the four? Why not oh boy, not another lies white. I didnt pay and I never said that I got one b in college and smattering of seas. In the end it was there and the sun. I fail to cover costs always- and one be that's yet- and there really was a eighty nine point Newman now rounded up and I got a hunch that was cause your personality, probably honour. I really went in and begged. Oh you d like
I was aimless. I was very upset Otherwise you could have had four point owner would have been correct. What else? Let's see? Oh you Chris said she's a secret socialists, and I wanted to be very clear that she's, not a socialist, although she thinks she is not know, she's, not a socialist, but she believed she is so she is correct. She believed I don't want no season not only does it Bulgaria Lena EK, as it did come out of her mouth. I know. I know that that not to be true. That's Andrew, ok, I what she really means is that she'd like to see a really nice safety net yeah in social services provided for low income people. I don't think she really means that she wants to the state to own she's.
maybe your arms, the person who wants the quality for everyone, but yeah, not statement. Let's see what else oh, you said the package was brought to you by Michael's and it's not just that as a german yeah. That's when we're talking about, as I think we gotta be really clear, Hooker not yet arrived. the aid by might eventually brought to you by Michael Correct again, you said Holmes. Savings have been here for seventy five thousand years. No, I do me a seat it. No, I didn't I never said I would have no less you. I'm an anthropology may well, when your four hundred fifty thousand years, two hundred while awaiting the Smithsonian website, where no fuckin do they nourishing? Yes,
as I was, I was any when I went to college a major and Andrew Beckett. They did say today even said two hundred fifty thousand years, but now currently like yoga, who just wrote Sapiens Assain like one seventy five or something what is theirs. A lot of debate about land was its own species like clearly define couldn't have had a a fertile progeny with, a previous hominid right, that's hard to pin yeah around five hundred thousand year, you're, not seventy five thousand, and you did, but I didn't know about you right now: a million dollars there's no way said that we have been here for some new ideas we can do now. I gotta go back and listen. Maybe I'm happy take your time for one
This is going to require more element that I really sorry there's a lot of you boy, you and it's bullet boy. You see it takes thirty or forty Buddy Kristen Ready a computer, thronged allowing reservation. I was a young and I thought I was some people- will believe very clearly. Joking people, not now how many people take does Hagen Lana, sheep and pigs. Three people enter it can be more, but it takes three. It takes a hair and make up and in the stylus down- and extra. Sometimes those people have assistance here, sometimes a guy brings jewelry over with like handcuffs her on this well yeah yeah, that's excite happiness and security, and I'm back sometimes yes, here on this, lingering okay. So at the end you discuss the key,
Lindsey scale it'll be all right in and, to be honest, I felt a little bit like I might have been talking out of my ass, though that there is even a scale. No, there is. There is a good, and I have I have it here read it tee, Ocampo great zero to six the scale weird. When it does do ten you'll see those eyes how many things that can happen. Zero exclusive- We had our own sexual one, predominantly heterosexual, only incidentally homosexual, to predominantly heterosexual sexual, but more incident more than incidentally, homosexual guy, very, very three Devon. Equally heterosexual, homosexual or that's a three: that's as oil would call a sexual harassment, OECD that three middle of the road right. So I'm not hi, I'm no you're not, and he said you have, just as it was like a mine city or the highest number before its view,
slightly index yeah. Sex and you're, but to histories, I sexual you, like other men's pay, now you're nodded to your oh. Why you're? Like a point? Five, no near you're, not you, I'm hugging, kissing man, that's what is that lasted Emily? Incidentally, that's more than, incidentally, to is more an incidental or wagon choose to skies on the lips, longer than mouse who I kissed, Hansen on the lips. Every time I see you do yeah I kiss on New year's Eve. I kiss ban heart on the lips Kang yeah. I do a lot of kissing on the lips with other men. I think that would cloth is incidental more than in northern and southern knowing incidental is like you, you you
you went to hug man and then you both get confused. You kiss accidental, that's different right. This is not bad I'm I'm like. I have. I have aids it some premeditated kissing, which I feel secure more than incidental, but anyways, hey Euro, want backyards of bomber airline decided. Thank you. That's your balls on that. Thank you. I think that's it Kristen yeah. I didn't make a tonic claims now and then you and I will quote wool while the post post mortem and what the seventy five thousand citing gear on time, but I love you and thank you for helping me keep this on the up enough above board yeah. We, I'm looking at other nice to be big news, we'll put right.