Tom Brady is an American football quarterback for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers of the National Football League. Tom joins the Armchair Expert to discuss his journey to healthy dieting, valuing skills that often get undervalued and starting football in high school. Dax asks what it was like to leave the Patriots after such a long career and Tom talks about having a chip on his shoulder. The two discuss Tom's approach to bettering himself and the identity shift he will inevitably experience post-retirement.
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What's a man, very selfish, where you got a studio. Ideas have like a microphone on the weather, is working or not, there is the more fun and watching people like you or Bill gates tried operate their computer at one of the finest parts of this job there, where you guys that we are in an attic, that's above a garage at a house, were build, meaning that I dont think will ever be done. I think we're at year three of it. So it's really just a very expensive garage at this point are typical of a good. Could typical construction process the as yet, and it doesn't matter how many times you go through a? U still are shocked with how long in how much it goes over budget each time. I know over budget, the duration,
how does a glass and I swear to god- it costs twice, as we were one percent over budget. One hundred adds. That seems be the standard number I found now. I came out of season, and they showed me the budget now like what the fuck is pretty rough. Did you have real jobs as a kid like we're? U, forced to do some manual. Labor had a couple really great jobs. My first away, actually talk about this here that my first I was a paper out, did you ever paper out? I did not not I was in Michigan, so shovel driveways. I was kind of the equivalent that's a good job, that's the azure annual labour, but in elementary school and then start a high squire paper up, and I made I think, twenty five bucks a month- and I was actually one of my coaches. Yesterday we were talking about our first jobs and because my they're my mom's job to cause she would vary.
I mean around and I would draw the faces, decided car maybe help me a little bit and every eyes it was maybe career training, but it at the pretty. I work on that arm. So my big barriers reset my mom was single mom, raising three kids and full time jobs. She was not gonna. Fuckin drive me around sounds like oh. This is gonna work, everyone. I know the paper out, really it's their moms paper out. As you know, we had like that like where those Vana gets. Where that site your slid open. So You can learn. I could literally like ride like side card, then like fire, over that of the car to like it to the other side of the street in high school. I didn't do as much to those planned laws. Was in college. I worked like cleaning industrial manufacturing plants in Michigan, Bloomfield tails. Literally, tell scrubbing ceilings of this. I paid, oh, my god, and I kept thinking did they like my shoulders word done. My elbows, and I think this is the worst job I've ever I ever imagine. The
We delighted that you spent some time in Michigan, that's where I'm from yet. So I was delighted to learn that you set up camp Baron Ann Arbor area. Did you enjoy that and you can be honest, I'll cut it out if its? If it's totally derogatory I'll cut it looks like we switch places us in California, they went to Ann Arbor done. I think it was a long way from home. I think I needed to go away from home and need to grow up us coming California, kid I had three sisters as a baby, so you can imagine. I was probably a little bit soft yeah and then go on emission go the MID West now go to school. You feel like it, the outside your I didn't. Even on a winner coat, my roommate credit he like gave me my first jacket. Now. How do I need this man? It's ten degrees in the middle of January, non like fuck, this yeah, you must have the round in thought. Why on earth would anyone live
yeah right. When I return home, I think so they must just have not ever gone to California. Did they just don't know that you, you don't have to be miserable eight months of the year to know what that's exactly what you think, because when you grow up in here like every day, is great. Like every day the weather's grade submarine much where its humid outdoor activities you go hiking, you biking, girl, fewer, the beach we go to three hours of tat. We go skiing in oh and it was like your whole world existed in California and then way to school. You know you have like formats a good weather. And maybe we also case suck ended up in college. It's not that big a deal about when you think about kids right. You have kids and I was think about all my god. If I was in my house for eight months of the year, raise skies. You know it's it's a beating here. It has its Charles, I think, further kids, but you know what kids are so resilient. Like my kids, they ve been in Boston
so my daughter's S7, my middle son's, ten and my oldest, is thirteen, but my tennis, seven been in Boston born there, and then we came to Florida for the last five months, and my daughters, like daddy, What are we gonna do for Christmas, like there's? No due for Halloween is our hollowing in Tampa. You know She keeps a act we eat out right out here outside and it's like eighty five degrees he won't eat outside with us. She goes out. The house is there she's, not like it this hot all the time but for you. I, like you, I, like it hot air Dave. I'm never going back to your call, whether that is twenty. Five years of it, when you are playing for the patriots when you're off season, would you guys return to California? Where, where would you go when you stay there? He had a little bit before I met my wife, I travelled quite a bit. She lived in New York, so I'd say from about two thousand. When I went to Boston two thousand two thousand six, I would try
kind of around the country has now made twenty. So those can always suddenly two days here three days here and then to down seven. My son was worn and weep spent all seasons, then in California cause that's where he was living at the time. So right that may sound a reconnect that I was in Brentwood, pretty treaty beautiful What I was wondering is. I have a couple different friends who are either their english and now they have children here in their kids are american, which I think would be so weird or vice versa. Right there they the England and they have these English speaking kids or with the accent, and I think all they must be such a bizarre. Feeling to have your offspring that really a mirror. How you are, and is it wild to think that your kids are Californians in some weird wake us
I'm wrestling with the idea that my girls are growing up in California and I'm thinking where will they even aspire to move to like in Michigan knows I will this obvious I gotta get to California, but I don't know where the fuck that they're supposed to go. They should goes very air nowhere. We should step up the very high tax rate, the trap and after the inconveniences, both for the most part. It's for you, I think they're trickier thing for my wife is think about you brazilian saw. Yazzi. Kids are Americans that speak. You know my daughter's Spaceboat languages, well, my son, I think hears it from his mom, but then doesn't necessarily always want to communicate it back by Lucy's. You know get an answer for ILO stranger for her for me? I think I've been so remove from California and our kids about a lot of different experiences. You know just be in in the northeast now we're in the South EAST. They try to sell America. You know we ve Homer Costa Rica for a long time there there in ourselves,
I took my son to China to three years ago, so, oh no kidding. What do you think that you know it is a trip out for adapting the sun at about ten years old. I mean it's, it's pretty pretty amazing just to be together, like I had a couple of when I was young with my dad. You know it's time more space for me and him buddy over he'll remember very pretty sweet, try to do that once every year I try to take one of the two somewhere just with one of them any man. It is so special to just be a little team and you're in a hotel room together and you're, making your decisions together. It's so fun isn't it. You know the one hundred and one time is like my standpoint and I meet so many people. It's they see me as somewhat different. Then probably do I feel like. I am my kid see me as dad so then, when you're yeah, I wonder you just doing dad things, and now we have on one- and I say these things in it just kind of make sure weaker year month, her out their yeah, I'm really great moments I'll even feel guilty, because at the end, like Dave five
those trips we get along so well and I think ass. She had a fight dedicated this much one on one connection. This would be how they back like in when they are acting shitty. Its privileges responds to want more of my time I dont have yeah. I know we're going to bed. Did you have your ear from somebody? I grab it just in northern California, just about twenty miles south of San Francisco insanity. Oh, my parents were yet knows just so supportive of me, growin up you think I d like to set out three sisters. So we had a very sport, centric family, my sister's raw onto plane. You know softball and basketball soccer, so low childhood, was like a sports fields just at their guard, their software games. It six o clock at night and go into on table pizza out to dinner, with the whole team and going home and and unjust taken, it was a great life grown up. Life is so different for us with existed. Just in the You knew that we lived in. You know we can travel the way that my kids would travel. Now we just our life,
existed in insane tail and if we want to go on vacation, we'd go to say I cruiser now we driving a car to tie mountain which was to ours, aware we gotTa Tahoe once You know, what's here in a winner fur, as a three hour drive far far car made it up that he'll be to get eyes meeting yeah the up that ninety or eighty or whatever the hell it is thirty otherwise wasn't the same kind of four wheel drive, so yeah yeah, it's just you know, is a great a greater nurturing environment. For me, as was Mama dad an athlete or both via their both very athletes. My dad was drafted. She'll baseball player knows I Antilles ended up going to want to be a priest. He went to the tourist an airy shadow, the X Y left, yearn he became a reality didn't so he was in school and then the story, tells me was his friend his bunk may was listening to a transistor. Radio of baseball game was serious game and got
bought by one of the priest, but a lot of trouble. Point here is gonna like and then he realized he wanted. You know, have a wife and have kids and have his axe, Other areas aimed at eliminating any got horny certainly did actually, but I should tell you that I don't know about the rise. Member meaning me, and I dont say this- is into trap you. This is not a task, but do you Amber meeting me causes of it was very memorable for me to. Thank you. No. Ninety six, don't count me out. Ok, I'm gonna paint the pitcher for you. I was at the met gala, which I had turned down going to like ten times. My wife always wanted me to go. It's not my c. I go and urine from We were in line like hurrying the facility and I dont know it's you yet,
Just know that there's a guy in front of me that's considerably larger than me, and I put my hand on your shoulder all again and I didn't know it was you and I whispered in your ear, Surin generally the tallest. At these events, I'm going to have to ask you to leave and then you turned around and it was fucking you and then you laughed, which made my night and yeah. That's the one time we met. That's awesome I thought it was a really memorable. Why are you he's a fucking b?
Monica how many six five six costs that no new year's. Next, I'm like six too, and I have almost six three almost six two days exports are. You must get that when people meet usually, I think, because you are surrounded by enormous vena. Yes, physically, I assume you're my high and then I see you in person in you're a girl why you fear, like I've ever met Vince VON now, and the guy have his eagle eye. It he's a fucking joy. And I think one people see em they're, like all my goodness. I can't tell him movies, but this guy's, a giant dear. I M around these big eyes all the time. So you know for me like, when I see like Rob ground Cowskin like damage guys anything less than that allows. A grey aid is kind of normal. Why are you doing here
you never think about being tall until you're looking up at some one, which is a very rare experience right for years. It's not often that I have to like crane my neck to lock eyes with somebody, but with you. I was really about forty percent crane there is a hold your game. It's all right! Now I have that experience at my work. I think it'll either we are saying that they being taught us very good. When you're standing now we're going you're sitting, my last aircars area since you know see solid day, so has its advantages. Ok, are. You grew up in Samara tail and I guess I didn't notice until today. Until I was learning about you, but you also play baseball in you, were you were drafted you you actually were drafted for major League Baseball, youse, critical basis in high school and in football where I grew up, was in Norway a Fournier outside of I'd say like data south, we had a great football programme or not a great football programmes in nor cow. So as prime more known for
baseball and I went to school, I was just write down. History from my house and for high school now has always pretty good at one of the trip that I took. My add when I was younger when I was twelve for based by went to Japan with them for a good, we'll baseball exchange, so which was the cool and is first time I ever see my dead drunk drunken horny uses drawn we'd. All names area was quite horny, really just kept that under wraps, so we so we were there together and at twelve, but baseball was kind of what I did and then I got two in high school. I still play both sports but really just found. I was playing football and the forty nine hours were great when I was growing when the nineties, their great football team. So that's kind of my most influential years, I would say, as an athlete was around football and then a lot of baseball them. I got a chance to can play team sports and play. Football was until my freshman year in high school, and I just kind of found. No four.
On and really want to focus, my time and energy on that. Also, all that I guess this is news to me if you had not played football till ninth grade when nothing organised, just football industry stuff, but nothing organ or like pop Warner, any of that state which was a trip, because when you get your first day of practice- and everyone starts like put another pads on and puts our paths our peers, I'm like I'm looking over them. I had I put my hands like I don't know. If you know It was. It was pretty unique in or not to have any experience, and I gotta get kids who were on my team at play. You know pop wonder and so forth, and they were just so far advanced and yeah. I was so far behind them, physically of privacy. Bloom or any way, but in terms of playing football deftly, didn't know the game of them. What I watched and then I was had a pretty good, but ever was ice. Turning my first year was a lot better than me. I d out play my first year size of backup quarterback my freshman year. We a freshman team. There were three teams, we were
so we lost every game we played and they still, I was good enough to play. Games looking up at everybody think in solar plan, because it was a great team sport and got a shot. My second year to play, were you a pitcher when you play baseball, I play pitcher It Europe, as I really like, being a catch. Her cause, you're kind of thumb in control, is a catch. Her pitcher is great and put it in oaths it She was very taxing on my arm. I'm her alone. I would play a pitcher and I was in a great pitcher and you know like just a baseball on how you draw baseball. I was a really get hit her in a decent feel there, but not a great picture. I would be nervous for you playing catch her at your hide. I mean your knees. I worry about unease that hurt a lot so thousand thing. Ironically, Bay
Paul? I always start took morbid toll on meat and football ass, an engineer, enery football, but I think that my school days and like I would ice when he's after every game with ice may after every aim is constantly aching. You now and again, I don't know a ton about sports, but they do say right, throwing to be It was a very unnatural. It's not like your your arms that really designed to move in the manner by which you must use in baseball yeah. I think we are meant to be over handed athletes for sure, rowing in o baseball, storing football strange and things like that, there is definitely a more stress on your arm just because the velocity of which you throw based by you can throw baseball harder. So I bethought harder, there's more force and torque on the different ligaments it's in your elbow and shoulder your muscles? Probabilities are get strain
as your movie out much faster speeds. We stop there really hard in football, but if I throw a really hard football, it's probably sixty two miles an hour. There are two miles an hour. Yeah, that's bonkers does aims. You might give any even make your arm move at a hundred miles an hour, much less something leaving your arm. They had their the sense of being a lot of force on your arm, and I felt that when I was planned baseball and just as I play, football is still little bit. You know just kind of maturing and grown, but it was less taxing of my body to play football than was the play baseball now back to your size. When did you become this enormous human being was what what age, where enormous is like? Six, eight six for leisure lessons here again, your time, you're totally misled because of your peers in your colleagues in your your co workers, but Europe phenomenally large human being. So when did you come into that? I probably had a gross Bert my freshman year and again, probably my later in my sophomore year and then by Junior year. I was about the same high bout, six four may they learn more
again. He had a share in this kind of like them typical american kid I would say like. I would never give my kids what I ate when We were we like pictures and stuff, chunky little kid would like drink Gruber floats in each and every one of the key was bacon cheeseburgers as a kid, and now it reflected in my favor, my body and it fun I got to high school like I would eat terrible through everything. You know a big muffin
with butter and a morning with hot chocolate thing, and I was breakfasting get to school with two doughnuts than at lunch at like us break you to have a hot dog. I got fifty cent hot dog and lighting, a clam charter and bread for food. The air get home and I have like nachos with like taboo cheese and then in my mom was like. You know, try to make some good for us at night, but you're in others cannot. You grew up is like cereal or in itself. When you say that yesterday I was at seven eleven in this guy next to me ordered a slice of pizza from seven eleven right and I said TAT he had a mask on as we all had mask on, so I can't really to ices. Hey. Do you mind SK in how old Europe in their guy goes. Twenty and unlike ok, that makes perfect sense.
And he knows what do you mean, and I got all my twenties I ate. Probably ten to fourteen are dogs a week from seven a lobby as they were too for dollar area like, but if I e one now I'm out for the day, I feel horrendous. The next day, I'm so sensitive, now cried out in your toys. What you can to shovel that garbage right in there and you don't even know you don't even know it- you don't even care in college. We would get these PETE. We caught him pizza cards, the football team at a deal with like subway, and we had a place in our recalled the cottage gene and we go at a subway and how happy like eighteen she's a sandwich, and if I wouldn't help- and I was going only once- lies a cheese all the way across instead to slice on liquids- am I did it, but you feel great right. That's the thing that so annoying has now become sixteen years. Sober eat, pretty damn good. I e the tiniest thing and I like a literally feel like I'm hung over, but back then man I was, I was drunk and smoke.
Cigarettes and in several eminent dogs, felt like a million dollars. We did I allowed deferred because I didn't, I didn't always feel great. I was a kid I was obviously in bouncing off walls cause. You know the responsibilities that thing that gets it's like you know and see. Your responsibilities starts. The mental fatigue of responsibility is on your life, which probably makes you feel worse than the food you eat so yeah. A lot of it is probably placebo, like I feel naughty. So then I feel naughty afterwards. Yeah, I'm curious, so want me to start with a couple things. I don't follow sports all that much, but I followed the patriots yeah. I fucking love you. I talk about you frequently. It would scare you off tonight you come up at you. It's not just the skill level on the field, which is unbelievable but again seen you in real life. I find it absolutely perplexing that, had you not chosen football, you could have probably been
Vermont right monetary assets. It's it's! The is unfair Are you so good looking and I just fine, that's breeze, so cute Yes, in the same way that I think it's interesting that, like call in Michael Jordan, are also gourd that's a lot of good fortune. Yeah a lot of good fortune, and thank you you got me forget me, freaking, speechless again the run down there? You are, but there is a real question behind. That is confident. Have you? Oh? Yes, yes, but also. What is going to say is. Is it you look at some of these, like really Joe Montana, that was your guy. You look around Canada. I it's suspicious that some of these great, were also like really good looking, and I feel that it has to play some role. Does it play a role in the confidence? I think even movie money ball, those guys
the room there time while he's a beautiful kid. Let's get him he's. Confident, like that's, been a part of the rationale. Hasn't it yeah little bit. I mean, I think that over time for me, I try to improve my habits. You know, and I think that's helped with maintaining in a healthy body physique in our skin in our ordain everything- and I think, if you just want, I always say like areas, one body we have. You knew there have a fundamental belief that you believe what you put in your body matters, or it doesn't matter If it doesn't yeah, it doesn't matter. So you know that's a choice. People make. If you believe that it does matter, then you got to believe that the more good things you do, the better. You know an idea for me when I think about when I was a kid you know I would never have developed into firstly, that I am but say forty three years old today had not made substantial changes in differences in how I approached you know my life, eating sleeping I would drink and when I was
in college three nights a week and then go right sports and then no wonder why you didn't have great gains in the weight room or didn't have great gains on the field in our son. I said: try a little tumblr bit of major Anko us, ok, great none, it was. I drink, follow us sleep a little more and I was like ok do down and work out of their own low, just change. My tie a little bit. Ok, great. Let's start adding electoral lights to what I'm doing all. Let me try some supplements some vitamin d ass, a vacancy, and then it wasn't. I everything at one time issues, but if I look at my age, in by actually posted a pitcher arme Instagram. Two thousand one of me and I like it self, and I look like a different person. You know twenty years time is changed a lot of young, but I look from this. Kid that I was which was under developed. You know die it in a port duration, and now it's like, I think about this These are there really a purposeful part of my day
prioritize, my health, because you know my health has been important to MIKE. Rear in Albania as important a career. It's not like hey I've, a job, or else I train like this. This is my job yeah, very fortunate to be able to dedicate the time and energy to it. I've seen the transformation is made and then now my hope is like I wish everyone would be able experience what it feels like to not you know be in pain every day to not be over. I mean something at all tiger for sure and interested me out Claudia life. You know we all these lines and we have one life and I've got It started playing with me when they, when the same age I coaches that are younger than me. You know that our on feel then I look at them and eight they don't move well, No, and it's like I'm Senor. I am really demanding sport there's a lot. When it goes into making those decisions at allow that to happen, but it wouldn't want to represent, as I move forward is like hey guys. I was the typical kid actually. I was
yeah born, like Michael Jordan, I wasn't born wit, like Leubronn, like low brominated admire board in love. Leubronn but, like you know, is also a fee already allow tiger words in Yosemites, Vietnam, sir. You know them credible talents and say, Michael Jackson, you know you think of some these that you saw when they were kids, and then I see myself as a kid. I d- and I was nothing like those people you know I was here is. If you saw me you never say. Oh, yes, no Tom's Gonna be plain twenty one years in Unifil, so I'm actually feel like. I can teach people guys if you're willing to commit and as of discipline, make a commitment to help you can achieve some really great things. That's a really great point, because I even had it in my own life right where I had an idea of what I was genetically right in and I'm looking at my lineage right and most shepherds are, I don't know seventy to eighty pounds over way in Rome. I come by it honestly and in then, in my mind I was someone who will never ever six back, I'm not one of those
eyes? I saw those guys in logarithms while over and then I'd. I did one movie where I decided higher trainer, I'm gonna do the diet and then all of us Oh, I was just telling myself that stuff, you know and that's not to say everyone has the potential to do anything, but I'll do saved. From my own experience, I had a potential much greater than I ever was assuming idea and there's some weird confidence builder, and that were you. Oh, oh maybe I should question every limit. I've put I myself right that all these things. I think I wasn't your predisposed to be. I should challenge here yeah, and I think you know being naive, allowed me to accomplish. Things like when people said, oh you're gonna go to college Ike and play football recruiters fuckin course I am What are you my answer? Highschool that was like? Are you crazy, like we were applying for schools as like apply only to fly
back up plan. What are you talking about? You mean backup team. If I don't get to play at my ease, ethically what I was drafted by the patriots who is the same thing, those like I'm going to play ball football like what are they we'll talk about, and then when I got to the patriots it was like course I want to be the starting quarterback Ino here. Why like what you guys to your trip in, like, of course, I see it in back in. Unlike I mean the odds to over. I'm all those things for more armchair expert. If you dare, we are supported by sleep number. More than ever am I supported by sleep number. I've had a little poopsies as you know, and I had a little surgery. My body is a little delicate and what I've done is of taking my normal sleep number that rages between seventy five and eighty five.
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you're so right, naive attack is. It is a good idea. I am curious, though, a couple things are surprising to me today. As someone who has just been in love with you physically, I wouldn't get I wouldn't have known that you got selected one. Ninety nine in the draft would you for now Monaco. Now, like sixth round one. Ninety ninth pick their ends, mean the greatest quarterback eyeballs eyes itself working ghoul. I'm almost prefer that your story right there that it for so long so like I'm play with the like one of my teammates, said the data means I broke when you wanna super bore the first time I was fourteen. I said I was red. Fourth growl g considered think loud because United. So me, these people that see me now and think I'll man, that's like top rabies, like I'm eighteen,
he was already a super bowl chant when I was born in now. Abyssinia thing. God, damn it does, but a long hard road. Our road is part of my know whether it's a chip on my shoulder, whether its they think about the things that have motivated you to say, fuck it, I'm gonna, keep going other day, I'm not gonna! Stop antimony build on their sentiment. I'd be better! The next time in you know, people would look, maybe like what are you talking about like you're, you're there there, but they never saw the pre too, the two years of my life, for that wasn't the case and then those twenty or shape me into. I was at twenty three and then ok. How can I build on be a little bit better of it a little bit better little bit better, because no, when you make the changes in your life for you, they don't happen, necessarily cold turkey overnight. You know it's like yeah, maybe
things better or, worse is sometimes momentarily. You know, yeah babies, stabs incremental change. Although you we ve, got a bunch of different experts on here to talk about the process of change in yards like it's just really tiny stuff in its time to stuff, maybe that you already do others all these x, rated seers, intimidating on the surface, is to go like I'm, never going to be radiance like well guess what Tom Brady didn't become Tom Brady in an afternoon either here you know for sure, and I think all Tom Brady as I speak about over the third Algeria with. I think when you think about that it it's been like just steady progress. Progress, so yeah affection. You know it's like. We were born like that. You know yes make it look better every day, whether that's whatever it is. It's you know. If you are aware of it, then you can focus on it now, if you're, wherever you to focus, you can prioritize, and if you can prioritizing be discipline, you can achieve really great results. Now, if you care
and you just in our fuck it all wake up, do it our I do it be impulsive, sell this that I wanted this or that you know a lot of us live when I live like that at one point, and I found something that work better and then I just tried to repeat that in its work out. What would I about you, a law is you're, not standing anywhere. Where the megaphone saying be. Like me, I think what you ve done with your book. In every time I've seen you interviewed it's like hey. I can just tell you what I am about that may inspire. You are not I'm not. I have no programme that human should be are not say, yeah I've done that about Europe there on a messaging that they get just maximizing your potential Some people are interested, then somebody bar and that's totally fine as long as for sure and we ll have choices, nets, our life and you know, but near potential could be whatever it is in. Everyone gets that choice and I think you gotta be able to have people help you. No one can do it alone. It's great dab support a family.
Friends mentors to help you say: hey man, your struggle a bit. Let me help you out in our. Let me out, you short cut and how great in the world technology that we can listen to shows like yours to say: may you there's really cool person on working? take. What can I learn and where such in a world of information and hopefully, in a weekend hack. Some of these things. You know that before we couldn't fifteen years where we couldn't goes, we can show this type information, so you must have watched last stands. Did you watch last Anthea, I loved it. It was me I mean what What a so fucking him seven so many ways we have to talk to Bill gates the other day, and I asked him if he watched it needed and he loved, and I was like, could you relate them in theirs that there's only a handful of people are currently alive that can kind of relate to him bill gates being one of them you being one of them? Did you feel a kinship with his kind of drive and his dedication yeah? You know, I think it's
there's a lot of similar feelings, emotions that he went through that have gone through a one point or another in now, and I think there are so many have been unlock rooms and road trip, sin winds and losses. I think that thing about sports. You know like we're not acting Now this is our real life. This is a real Tom Brady on the field, my real emotion, playing a role playing Mysel. You gain even hide. There's a thousand cameras pointed out. You were gonna, see whatever that experiences for you here, and I think that, like I think, that's a little different like if you look at energy, someone like Michael Jordan, it was the same thing for MIKE one. I think what you saw a documentary was well. That's really him like that we saw that really, Michael. I don't know how anyone can be it. Michael Jordan fan I'm a huge Michael Jordan, dangerous because how he approaches life in you, someone I was locked up there at All- is posters in my room and you could make him feel You tell him you had a poster when you were eight sure you could return the favor spike DOT Lee One where you
equally knows likewise, those pretty sweet. So this moment theirs moment in our last stance, where we kind of learn- and maybe it was conveniently constructed for the sake of storytelling, but I don't think so. I think the dynamic of him having the older brother that was better than him and then having a father whose affection he wanted tremendously in rightly or wrongly, identifying that if he could beat that brother he could win. That dad's attention here that seems to be the chip on his shoulder that drove him so successfully. What what's that on your shoulder, do do now. Have you thought much about it? I think there's always been doubt around what I could achieve
I think that's what it was there's always there is always heard the people say: he'll never do that and never be the starting quarterback in high school by senior year. You know how never go to a real good, the visual school and play football. He should stick around and play you know at a local school and then you'll never be a pro. Quarterback, certainly never be starting quarterback. I'd, say I'm very, inter motivated a real, strong fire that burns based on me never wanted to. Let myself down no giving less than my best effort is probably a real hard thing for me. I've had my ten year old Son is very hard on himself try my brow, but this is not the past. You want to go down, just breathe a little bit and like- and I remembered like cryin about being sure
stay out about some in fifth grade and that is borne. That's not gadgets do genetically your kind of wired. That is why I too have like this part of me. That was like. I didn't want to be less than my best. If I thought I should have one I was gonna win. If I thought I was now, there's some things I didn't have a lot of interesting. I was not very good student. I tried just hard enough, but no interest. You know I just didn't feel. Like you know, school was the highest priority, would use of your. It certainly was a very odd, as I went to college people like what you major my fucking man. I was airplane, got three item three to GPS. Three three GPA, but I didn't like. I was go in there too, like K. What is my career gonna be my career was, can one what degraded you even pick up? So that's it It's called general studies being picnic classes to go to so, and it did required.
Your grand generals. Studies on studies- I remember in my college, I took one class of us like dancing one hundred and one it wasn't dancing. You just sat in a class and they taught you about dancing all of the football players for impact glass cuz. It was clearly just like this is where here ass in grade, and you take that back out of his eligible. You know that exactly I know that I know you want to use your life. I love you. Silly goes a great all media of complacency, my nieces there now, my nieces a is a soft ballplayer. Oh no, she was a freshman at your leisure in the pact and no she starts now. I love you see. I lay man before being shut down. I was out there for game and its sweet, but back to when the people were saying he's not going to or you
you're, fooling yourself. What were they hanging that argument on where they saying was? It was a size thing was it. It was a natural talent thing. What did they? What were the critiques? I think it was probably just natural talent. Like you know, there were other kids that were always big always faster in always stronger? I was. I was kind of right there, but they were always more potential, more potential, more potential, and even I really think at every step of the way like. Even when I got to know college, it was like there are other kids with more potential, and then I got to the proposals that it gives us more potential, and it's just you think. Ok, why didn't they make it? You know I didn't. Why was I the one that made it other than? I would say, people probably miss value things. They put value on things, that probably don't matter, and there is doubt that they should value more that probably they dont there's a lot of those stories. Yeah. We just have an expert on Angela Duckworth. Her work is all on great she's, a professor at pan, and you have you wanna.
Is your something in there in the students that's going to predict their achievement. It is not intelligence. It's not all these things we would thank it is. It is grit more than any other thing, and I find that to be so true and acting in any damn thing. It's like yeah grip man. That's that's eighty percent of it half the time just think about it to its out the smartest kid this you know it's. What are they learning through, whatever the beginning of the competitive part of life to a working career and you think a pitcher really smart, ok or people who could process really quickly or who were great athlete? and in the end, what did their skills that they develop over time that we're sustainable in out. I think for me What did I learn? I learned that if our Can I achieve anything? Was gonna be through a really hard work that I was, behind everybody saw always felt like I do work twice as hard. I was always looking at people there.
Let me say to observe what made them better then yeah and I think, when all of the other things are stripped away like, I would say, a natural talent. You know whatever. That is something that God really blushed you with Dan. What's left in. If you haven't develop those other traits, then when you do face adversities, they become adversities. They don't become out another opportunity for you to overcome something like you did. Basically your whole life. So when I got to professional sports, I had really worked hard in competed every day so by temperature professional level. I, like you, want to compete with. Let's, let's go, you wanna call that's Rove nigh to compete in the outer guys who never had to compete because they are always the best in high school and are always the best in prose. Now there are like senora. What do you mean compete on everywhere at this was the best I was thinking
about that when I was trying to imagine like your life and particularly the way, you've approached it, and I and I want to talk about it, but you know your commitment to die at all these thing. I mean you are working this job of yours. You know twenty four slash. Seven, it's is very admirable and I imagine, exactly that I was thinking over your twenty one years. You must have seen so many people arrive in that locker room who oranges, fiend arms right there. They're. Both Jackson, they have some physical prowess. Such is crazy and you must have observed so many people that could have just been absolutely legendary that just didn't do it. You must be kind of heartbreaking, there's parts that I see and I try to tell him and I'll save more recently, like I said, hey how you want to be how great you want to be and I'll be like what do you mean like? I might not know, you're a great. I know you're great, but like how great you really want to be, because I think you could be better.
Than anybody and there, like most people, probably right they set their sights on something that has existed so it's like if there are wide receiver. If they end up is good, is whatever wide receiver, that's in their mind than they ve accomplished it. But someone like you, I'm just on paper. It's in argue. You know you ve won more super balls in any one. You ve been there more times. You ve won more games. You just all these dying asks that play there. How I got a whole is that I wrote down if you want to hear your, which I might add your Wikipedia pages. Wait too long to get somebody to. I was thirty five. Pages long Desert x it out, but yeah Ford, Superbowl, envy peace. If you're always only to have been as good as Joe Montana, someone else. Then we wouldn't have learned the limits of what someone could be
You know if your war seems to have been with yourself, which I think best where you can have is long as you're better than the guy from last year, the year on the right path. So yeah, you don't even know it's possible and learn these things are worth overtime. Could you don't have a lot of these thoughts? You know when you're, twenty or twenty five or thirty, but you know you have kids and you start thinking more. You have no more perspective in your little boy, Aye, sir, and you ve total out of stories over the years. I think what's really gonna stick, and I said in my kids die said it is most important to do your best or is it more important to do the best? What's gonna be more fulfilling for you in your life Do I still do their best. That's an interesting question were so you know we're so condition to do their best to do the best and the reality is doing your best and not being a to the best is gonna. Allow you to have probably more whenever it could be emotional stability or you know you become attached to being better than your brother or being
better than this other person, it's thirst inherent, let downs and although, since it Maybe they're, ok, cause you're gonna help you grow and toughen up a little bit too, but you right, there's built in limits. Its a finite goal of the goal is to be as good as someone else or marginally better than that's the it's fine night air, as opposed to a fine, bettering myself. But who knows where this scows air animals we focused on achieving little more each day and on again it says I encourage a lot of people like sets and goals. Man like said some real goals now write em on fuckin paper, pick up in an even bigger friend or given dear wife and say, look just check me on these yeah. Inviting people to make you accountable, I think, is really powerful. That's part of every aspect of you. No self improvement is being Amazon. Awareness. Hey would only do better job at a in my career, be my person like hey. How would we need to do to help my friends help my kids help my wife and then just everyday
it's just you tried to allow a bit better if you ever need our help being your wife, my number now just I'm at your disposal to help your wife any time she knew. Also through you. I am very benevolent you not. This wasn't a question I had thought of earlier, but I'm now that I'm talking you, I was watching a documentary about either Tiger Woods or John Daily. I imagine you know both yes, guys and theirs is really really profound conversation they had where they had just finished a tournament in John Daily said to Tiger Woods: hey come, have a drink with us in Are your wood said? If I had your skill, I would go, have a drink with you, but I don't
Gotta go back out in practice it now, then. I remember it was John Daily telling the story and if you could tell he took pride in that, as you should Tiger Woods is telling you that your naturally butter, but it's a very, are breaking story at the same time, because you look at the difference in their careers. So I was wondering in that same vein. Was there anybody that you're actually envious of with your job that you are like fuck. If I had with they had coupled with what I'm willing to bring to. This could be something. Can you remember a player that our envious of professional football I mean, there's been so many over the years. I mean a fire half. I look like some guys who physically hour. She have a lot more ability in their faster, their bigger they can run they can you know, I think, there's some things have learned to do colleague better, we're time, because I've been out reacted, hearted it for a long time, but in my figure in a league I was no freak nature right when I look at some guys who maybe we're great physically foot run of four
640i Kyle joke all the time I see Kai run like a for seven hundred and forty, which is pretty fast, I would say, like the average NFL quarterback probably runs, you know a forged. Eight hundred and forty nine skies run like four seven slow guys run like five flattened over. I ran a five three I was slowed area as person on the appeal I could now theatre. Buggy. Proudly events alignment. The Mai like a hot potato, whereas others, big fish, it didn't have em on this thing, I like the rough was gonna run merely has, rather than so onset airs they can get. If I can't run a fourth seven football would be so easy I mean how he would be if I could run away from people Ben again. That could be a limit you could have given yourself, while just won't be that cause. I don't have that this is such a side note, but one of the rafts again, I don't want a ton of about one of the rifts appears to be about sixty five.
In his fucking jack? Anyone talk here, he's retire. What's that guy's is, are we as it aims at hockey earlier I knew you would now he was jacked Monica this guy railway for regional. I live for when he would get on that MIKE and talk as if by have to be balanced and our island. There was this guy do not now a lot of prices very healthy guys are integrated at a greater. If that was his day. Another thing I just thought of that was related to less. Oh yes, last chance, so there's a moment and last chance I wonder if you had this thought Monica our lasting damage have asked for less less dance. I do wonder about last. James Monarch also agreed a paragraph, ok, so last dance there is a moment were Michael makes a shot while playing for the tar heels and it's a buzzer beater to win the holes
bang in you watch that shot and maybe a making too much of it, but I I said to myself man he makes that shot in for the rest of his life. He can make that shot. He doesn't make that shot. Any problem can never that sharia and you such a clutch player, I mean there's nothing more thrilling than watching you guys be down. Then I'm watching the clock and alike I would be in a full, fledged panic attack and you seem to shine the brightest and those moments, and I wonder, was there a moment that defined you as a clutch player? Did something happen early on that told you you have that gear? I would say somebody was conflict,
you know like at a younger age and sports, and I was a pretty good baseball player mood playing games in based by would do a pretty good job and I was really prepared than football came and in college I had some real great comebacks. Ah I had my college was really challenging. You know I was a long way from home. I was out, there was less support for me. Then there were for a lot of other compare. There's and I really was felt at different times- I was kind of there on an island and I had to learn to dig deeper with it or would it broke in me and because I really found a way to deepen. I had a few great mentor, zero gray harden was our team psychologists? Have I think, the world of and then another good friend of mine, who is a head coach, a bowling, Green Scott Leffler? Who is a kind of a friend, quarterback coach, but those too
particular, like I see it in you, I see it in you now when I didn't necessarily see that myself and they gave me some tools, try this look at things this way, not that way! Look at it! This is an opportunity. This, isn't this not an AIDS, an opportunity to take advantage of it. You know I was just again it worked out so when it worked out, as I fuck more that yeah see Gregg as our psychologist twice a week- and how do I get my in more of a frame of mind, you know and then it was had. I work a little more. Why try that different technique drawn a ball? Aren't we Can I take her with and I think they ll be through high school knowledge than get to the professional level. I went to the patriots the first year. Coach Bela check was there and there is no better person to help teacher quarterback, Tina Bilbil check it out. And yes, it's all these things at one time, I'm signal, I look up my life and I go. There are so many things at broke my way
you know that how lucky am I to have these people come into my life at these moments? Where was ready and open to accept and they appeared, and then it was like a still that way. You know I'd like when I think something's gonna happen. It happens. No way what the collective forces of a coming together, I dont think I even thought of that. Do you just said it in so goddamn obvious, but I'm sorry to say, goddamn is so obvious, like this. This is your job, no not at all, but I ain't your religious. I think so I guess I don't. I didn't mean to take God's name in Bahrain and in front of you I'll. Do it not not around by India Ballot check the fact that you to get to be a team like that is pretty incredible. Yet, at the same time, you know, like he's young motivated at areas. Coaching stand, learn from his previous stand as a coach where he got fired and then wishes came in and he was ready and he wanted
is everybody using to work as hard as possible. I was ready. I was ready to prove to everybody. You know there was a lot of other guys are team that were ready, and you know it's just like is everything lies at her fixed storm of a lot of different events over long periods of time that all broke a sir way and yeah I if I would have missed out on one of those opportunities, that would have really hard from because that's kind of person that is inside of me. If I screwed up, then I don't feel like I may ever deserve another one. More Take your own ass. We learn that about you, love to give yourself a nice lashing, I'm sure yeah I'd wrath, get that through motivator ever oclock question. Can you just talked about religion and just reminded me, you grew up religious catholic applicator. So I wonder if those principles are full did in two who you are and this being hard on yourself having high value, is perfection problem? all tied together right in some way. You're could be from that in certainly, you know again. I think for me grown up the support it home, like I think my
debate was never to let anybody down in our to get my career. Like you know, I've been in the same place for a long time. You know in let's say and in Boston like you know, people get fired every year there. You know, because I was doing my job and I didn't ever want to be the reason why we lost games I want to be a reason why something cause other people pain, ass pilot, like my mom truthfully, my mom takes on. Everyone should like a lot of moms at their takes on everybody's pain. Everyone stripe, everybody's heartache she's. Just always the one taking it on something who could take in types gone. She takes it lives at night said: there's a part of my mom that on prime more, like where I take that on- and I just want peace out just gonna- had that among these weird variables, as you were talking, I'm thinking you uniquely culture.
All right, you're, uniquely open to seeing the type that team, psychologists and listening to the one coach- and I was thinking I have to imagine you benefited from having three older sisters is like generic- is. That is a sad like women. There's nothing, but I teach my daughter how to write a motorcycle. She can get in five seconds because she listens to me. She's, not like me, who's, gonna, fuckin, so much to prove. I know everything you can teach me anything. I think. Maybe you just growing up at all, sisters to meet you more a valid answered, so that kind of instruction in you know, I think, you're in your grown up with with three sisters year receptive to what's Goin on the house in Europe play a bit more intuitive emotionally cause. But my sister's like to talk about a lot of things and didn't have a lot of rose in the house. You I had my friends, but in a really I was like my sisters would dress me up in their dress there. I was like
as long as the Terek along kid so's. Now my dad like he would try to get me hey. You know, let's go play, golf, let's go, and I love sport. So there is a great connection there, but I think the benefit of both those things right. Three sisters at all I had definitely have athletic In my body, but they are being around these fields in competition sports and want no win and I would add Satan, intangible, that lets it wasn't speed or size or strength, was very competitive. You like I, was a kid. Remote control and intend it if I lost that remote got slammed on the floor. Pit time. You know- and I may have been a blow it up, but how do you like my sisters, who like what is wrong with you be a rage. Levels, Ricky Chemical testosterone, aunt, Rachel Foreign abounded, unlikely unjust, exploded in that still is. Case. I mean it's all good good. Now, son, I just get solve barking mad.
Now and adjust its part, my personality, you know a lot of biographies of acts, titans of industry, I'm kind of obsess would like Cornelius, Vanderbilt, Rockefeller and all these people here and what they all sharing common. Was they construct this life that they really end up, loving and then quickly transitions too long. They all became obsessed with like how to live really long because they do you know they had done what they wanted and they created a world. They loved Benin and I'm wondering what is it like for you? What you must have an interesting relationship with time? Knowing that this thing you ve dedicate Your whole life too, has a shelf life the nettle and in that year, already technically kind of in borrowed time. Are you those player in the Lee its fighting? So I think I am that's so while yeah, I think I am I'd like ever heard as most experienced here.
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aware of it? Did you lose sight of it like how conscious have you been of the time clock? That's on your life. I felt it naturally in sports you're reminded of it all the time you know, because it's every year, it's the new crop of kids in the draft, and this and you know, and you When this guy gonna be finished in Now- and I think in almost like a different thing, because I would say football was my first love and I started when I played on the street. My neighborhood with my friends on Portela drives in detail, and that's where my happiest moments are you not outside of rights? It? My kids know be my family being on the football field is pure joy in them all men having my very highest and best calling in just literally like in the zone you're born to do this Monday among the field the other day, and unlike I just fucking love football, I don't what it is. I just love it and unfortunately
a lot of guys they loved to some are physically, not gifted enough to play. Some are physically gifted in something tragic happens. Personally, you know it could be a damn, could be some interfered over the opportunity and some have great potential and in two years and injured, you know- and I think I got two appointed about as I started- improve all those different things I talked about through college. Take some more different supplements. Little more hydrated, you now start to take care of my body Then I started thinking about wow unfeeling, better now, let's say at age, twenty seven, twenty eight than I did when I was twenty three like while that's really it and by we I know a lot more now than it was thirty one that, unlike this, is getting easier physically, not horror. Rain is learning more just like everyone in their career. What you do you're gonna get better at right, without which your my, which are time, energy and you're gonna, unproven, good or bad, and I started to think at that point. What am I gonna stop plan
Why why? Why would I start because everyone to stop and they definitely don't enjoy playing sports and for Bob you're hurting me if you're right, you're mean you're, not gonna play its? it's too hard, it's too much to overcome so most guys they just get to the point where their body hurts too much everyday impacts are like. I can't do it for me. You know I did something different. I took a different path and that path of learning brought me to guide use by best friend. I still work with them every day. Business partner, Alex Guerrero, and it's like we created this thing that I said I really want to Cherbourg. We talk about maximizing potential and airlines can have that. He taught me so much in the way that we work together has in I have perspective, I look at whatever do come in a locker room with every guy for twenty years. I look at everything you're doing everything are taking the way they eat the way they talk about, thereby the and constantly going. Ok that doesn't work that doesn't, that is on the sun, that doesn't,
in your corporate mere routine and then you get to go, prove it. So what am I doing at forty? Three still do what I love to do. So I have a bunch of sports endeavours. They're all motors its related and I just recently had a bad accident at the motorcycle travel a week and a half ago, I'm so sorry be wearing a sling. Surgery, I'm moisture, I'm trying to figure out. Then it's hard, unlike you know, when do I not
the skill set any more. When is my age and at what am I gonna have to confront that this is no longer for me in it. By the way it scares the shit out of me to imagine there not doing it. It's like one of the greatest sources of joy and my life so have you felt any decline, or how do you monitor that in yourself? Here? I think yes and no, I think I definitely feel like I have to work really hard at the recovery part of the sport. So it's not just like the physical training to prepare for it. It's the preparation for the performance, the performance, the recovery of the performance and a lot of people traditionally prioritize that part right that some that's kind of a new movement to really be aware of the recovery aspect of all this year, because inherently were taught that hard work is gonna, get you everywhere. You wanna go so if I can work out once a day if I work out twice a day, I'll be better and my view, that is, if you're working hard at the wrong things you're getting better. I get
worse in our so I've you're working hard at the right. These you know what to do. You have the right routine, the right process. You work, those things you're going to see significant improvement, I got their reactors football place if they're all shitty football plays, I could run and five times in Ankara on freight those and do again and again and they go on play a game, and you know what they're still bad place so yeah. If you run a good routine, you have a good process. Then I think you see the benefit and if you see that fit, then you're, gonna experience like again that's closer to our goal. Setting or which are priorities are what you want to be on, be a better derelict. My kids aren't like all golf at, because I right my motorbike. I still want to have good us on a more regular still want to be able to have you no great in six on the bike, then absorb taken a different form. Or hit, or I wanna go skiing in on. Have my heard on one of his skin ski like I did, and I thank all those things because being active is enough. For me, that's a very important part of my life. You know it's like
every day I just gotta, like kind of like a kid like I just gotta burdensome energy. I don't in United like agitated all day and then that's my heart of all the others- that there is a high in about training and work now, and then the fulfilment of ok she's. Up than that, I want to go train hard. I did, but how do I recover for the next day and then do it again now and do it again and again in practice setting a good at it? I keep waiting in a compliment me on how good I look in the mirror. Has it
It is your shirt, I'm wearing your shoulder like it is yes, yes, I love it. So comfy enamel tall lean guy with broad shoulders, not like yours, but not like you, and I say if it's me like a glove, pretty good man. I love it tv twelve, that's a line you have now Alex and I basically we have been working together since two thousand five, when I couldn't really throw the football. You know I loved me, like you, you know your voice doesn't work. You know too, for me to be a quarterback arm. Doesn't work, I'm not gonna happen, a very long, and I was basically wanted to be a great player it. I knew that working hard was gonna, get me there and I would work out and I would say, and I would live weight because everyone says live weights in condition in that's what you're gonna get you know. That's where you gonna be a better athlete and then it got to point. I couldn't throw the football because my elbow all the time it really what happened was there? Was these muscles in my forum got really tight? You know you do curls and you crawl. Your rest. You can feel how tat your form gets and then you do bicep grossly their ones like mad. You ought to get good advice
girls, so you do by girls. Were the girl, exact amazing, I'm sure they love it. What we know now, so you do you're crazy. Do your try steps and then, at the end, all those things after a period of time all the muscles gets so tight, intense these just pull in opposite directions in a pool now going to pull in that little tendon is in there trying to hold on for dear life because you're putting all these forces on it from throwing that muscles airport, in opposite directions. So when I met Alex to a friend of mine, a team made a mine, he was, I surrender these really short muscles long by a lot of manual tissue work, these muscles nearby set that you are here and make these long. Nor would it make your try some muscles long enters. The muscle went for being really too to now- it's really long, so that when I would put forces on it, it would just it would lightly contracts, as opposed to just pull the tenant
Part as like that make so much sense. Like is the first time in my life that I didn't have elbow ten and I just play football. Well, don't you think so much of the previous science even watch it like you even see like the progression in Cochin right like we interviewed, P Carol. I love that dude. I love that he is like Wade communicates the way he makes an effort to understand where the persons coming from and yelling at me born calling them our souls isn't really proto. I just I love that and I think so much of sports is still mired in this kind of my cheese. Bull, shit right, so it's like yeah, fuckin, curls, TAT, As for the guys, you know that thing there's been no scientific study to support any of this. Just can legs all fashion. I think even the die it right that I used to be like you eat a God. Damn t bone in three baked potatoes before games on the air. You really seemed open to different approaches. Yeah tell me what you're diet, so I have arthritis Ivan, auto immune thing. Sorry, Eddic arthritis in I've had to eat a certain way. Did not.
Have information- and I am a friend of mine- showed me your diet. Nose, like that's pretty close to my diet. Tell me how you got in or do so that in what change its made for you and is it a fuckin hard for you It is for me. I find it hard it's it's it's not like. You can't go the seven eleven and think you're gonna find out if you're looking for. I know that, but you know I think again it's for me. It was about a little progress overtime and it started with hey, let's cutting out some in a hot dogs. Then it was like subway in and it was like when we work towards like more proteins in judges and then it was like okay. Well, let's work more toward a higher performance. Things in the may try some more beacon meals and when I met my wife in New York and two thousand seven there's a raw food russian, which I tried that for the first time and then and then it was like ok a little less stake in it, and now it's like ok, more vegetables and then overtime. What's notices I might take,
but change and I went yeah like aren't. I loved Subway Aloes Subway Burger king another all those types of things to now. It's like a thought at that, is like no way no way I've. Just if only to good me, I'm thinkin lentil soup again, you now allow me out Hemison in guacamole in disguise, drain early, even stand that China a thank you to the unfortunate we denoted canned tomatoes right, you, don't you don't fuck with me Is that true? I dont like em that much so for me to pass him up so, but in general you do have an entire inflammation approaching trap. Salubrity. Absolutely Nigeria looked at it again it for me? It all relates back to football. I mean in a way it was all because I felt like disconnect would be better for popular
If I could be better football player, I don't want to you know I'm making all these improvements. How do I get a little bit better little bit better and I think those things led me to be a little more discipline which I was deftly born with that, but then also operate like I can cut back and not only in fuckin like it anyway. I don't like your. Why do I have to eat it yo? Why don't? I adapter lube it over time in outside anti inflammation cause If you go work out for an hour and a half inflammation information, it's not a healthy to go, run ten miles, there's a lot. Inflammation, I'd, say running was good for your heart and for your head there's a lot of downsides. This I bought Monica treadmill for her birthday. Yes, RNA now you're kind of ruin and therefore is it refined by you without your great excuse for me to not, though
I think I just ate some of the really extreme things we know they just they take a toll on your body and their little bit taxing. So why am I going to go finish practice so workout before practice? Go practice and it come in and eat bacon cheeseburger. So nearly I fully they all acclamation inflammation So where does what your body gonna? Do your bodies gonna go like? Ok, I'm done like fighter flight. I had enough, tight muscles, slow movements and then poor performance and then look for new job and then talk about how great could have been because in as that's it does your wife ever hate your gods, because I like
You know who is wife I do, but, but if I lived with you, I think I would be like coffee seems to just be so disappoint. I could eat annoying some money in the same way regime the same lines very disciplined, don't give a shit eared very disciplined, get that guy gets each other. You sometimes eat darlin. I saw your wife walk across the field that the Olympic Right was Eddie. Opening ceremony in Brazil. That's the first time I ever realise, like that's violent on the body like the model walk now a long way to walk in those his eyes, like, I don't think I've been giving these gales and of credit like that is that's hard on your body. Yes, she said it fair share of flight, pretty tough injuries just because, in order to make a pitcher look good, you gotta create all these four crazy Ngos, and then you got a hold up. So you put your body and a funny position and then hold it for a minute and then once you, as I go. You want me to be like this. Ok, no problem just hang upside down, and then you get down,
says killing me side. They all those things over time took at all. You know she's at our really bad shoulders. She had I ten dislocations on one side and twelve, this so called on other she's wiring. She doesn't have very big joints in our she's, Jose more dainty she's tall, but dainty. So you know she just has these joints that are very much for mobile is your. Is your boy on on course, to become seven feet tall I'd, imagine with answers likelihood that will will break succeed. And in a way that we do not succeed our coastline, physics, thirty six or but that's that's, do talk. Ok, I have a couple of really just rapid fire questions for young and ask a single Howard, Stern S, question, and that is: do you make love to your wife on a game day or set off the table there? That's It's probably on, is probably off the table. That's off the table arise. Aids probably never happened, but I don't think that would be the moment now get good. I expected that air that wouldn't be my premium warm up
do you have other quarterback friends in the more famous you get the more successful you get it in. I don't expect anyone to shed a tier for any of us, but it can be very isolating in that very few people really end up being able to relate to what your day to day. Problems are need, probably feel like a shithead tellin. Some, you know, guy, who scrape and paying off a wall your issues, but you do have some friendships with some some quarterbacks that you'd air relate to one another gaffer sure I think, there's a lot of guys over the years breadth, far paid Manning, even Montana. Steve Young goes against the embryo. Phil SAM's boomer size in the that do arise Russell Wilson. Obviously, Aaron Rodgers been a friend all he's a sweetheart hobbling. I was at once or twice I say, I'm mile a matter I think I'll, oh, some Georgia, Georgia and Armenia, quarterbacks out of Georgia, rise to say and staff at play. Well
He s gone without breaking this evening, but about him he's a place in Detroit and that's what I'm front wait. I think you're. Also friends with my boyfriend's. Are you friends with the ban and map ban rasper, no Ben Afflux, Natalia them actors. Yes, I am sure that those silly hours and arousing yeah, ok, nother, another two questions, really quick is it isolating being the leader of the team? Is it? Is it hard to because I find myself sometimes when I direct things I'm the boss, which is a weird position for me to have in there? I just wanna be cool everyone yeah. I then I meant I hate. When I have to be like come on man, you can work harder than that is. Is it isolating? You can't have any down days. You know, I think, if there's moments that have changed my life, it's hard to just let your guard down. As you know, I wish everyone knows that in a word, a very hypersensitive aged anything you know in your judge by one interaction. In that case you don't want to be judged by what
action, so you don't go out. Could you dont want to be put in a situation where I had a really any day. Now. Why would you know? I don't know? No one wants here they're shitty day, but I she day its life. You know I'm a pair animal brought them a brother must sign, not things happen in life and you get bad calls and you got to deal with situations, and then you got go out public and be this is. This is great. I think that yeah of fatigue overtime is like be happy one day when I retire, I'm gonna to be like I've done it. Like that's it, so I'll, be in charge. Airline man- I did my time I did it- I worked hard. It but you know what the time is over. And I'm not looking to recreate aid. There was going on in one of my other rapid fire questions in the rapid fire around right now and I have followed again. I notice that this twenty times I dont, want to turn a sportsman. I'm I'm so interested in athletes, and I love watching documentaries about athletes in a common thing I seem to have observed is that post career and I
from the outset. People think it has to do with money and fame, and it is not at all, but the calm roguery that you have experienced over the last twenty one years. That's it that's a big fuckin hold a failure and I think I think it was bred, far views very open and honest in some documentary I watched were used like there is just a fuckin all right hand up. I think Cochin, like maybe as high school, like a high school teachers to get back in the mixing. I worry about you, I wonder: do you have a game plan for when you retired, so that you don't become super sad now? I think I think I definitely will need some help when I'm done plain to find some space to argue I draw the line, the ups and downs, the highs and lows of us, and I am a big however, in psychology and in getting help, I've already obviously thought. Okay. When it does happen, it I'm feeling a huge. Void and I dont know where that huge voids gonna go and it's not gonna be like hey, I'm gonna be someone who doesn't want to play.
Energy. I have into something positive and I'm still when I want to do things, but it same time. I'm missing something I really did love. It would be like a really. You know, like our tough break, I'm nervous for you look if you maybe brows. I am at your disposal at Thou art. Started. Vat rates remain there where there were their online into too much. I have a question what price, if you paid for being so singular Lee, focused on this endeavour. I think that thing that probably heard that this most challenging for me as Ike when people say like I have been the brother that I could be. You know, convey our friend to certain people at different times. You know and my parents had become a pretty good son like, but at the same time like to nice, people close you get the short of a stick cause you're, always busy. I've always got one other thing. You always got work you're always got one more obligation, one more call one more this
everyone else who you think we're we're cool, so you can stay condoms in as a non priority you can take it for granted right like that's their. We know we'd love each other now have time some day I'll have time when, when footballs done, I have time when football team lifetime time. And you know I I'm more time, but that's probably the thing that's pipe in the toughest cause. That's hard to hear you know you went out effort in the things, but the reality is other people in your life. You know they're gonna get better. If you work at and improve it, but if you don't, then its it takes a different, took a different ride and now ok, I think my life question. I would love to keep me for ten hours, but what's the emotional experience of having left Boston after twenty one years in going to a new team, and I just want to add into this cuz I want Monica to know you and Tom could have gotten a lot more money for many years and he didn't take more so that he could get better.
Yours like his commitment to winning. I know. Did you read the Pat Tillman book by chance? Were men find glory now he's? U? I encourage that really similar story. You I mean he even last draft to the cardinals so loyal to that franchise turned down way more money to play for Saint Louis because they took the chance on M just so much integrity that I really really inspirational yeah. What is it what's the emotional feeling about leaving their and going to tamper bay? It was tough, I mean it was tough fur tough decision to make when you're been two decades ago. Place, and now it's a lot of emotions, a lot of memories. There's a lot of things. You know twenty years long term, sea basin, experience every emotion and high and low and every experience you get
so when you leave its yet, cannot the chapters closed but you're taking over relationships and all the memories and for one reason or another, it didn't work that I was going to continue their, but it doesn't take away from what I had in what I had was actually may be more prepare for one am experiencing now. So for me to look at that experience and be grateful for what I ve learned the relationships I have, though, still be very important for all players, we're on a lock Romeo's Ike were they all know nappy. She knows. I go for five months that lock room is tight tight and then you have that with friends, and it's like it's, you know it's it's amazing, so I got a plug this inner us, my computer's doc. I held up
This is great watching him have to figure this out right, look how human he looks all of a sudden. He was easy. Look like a superhero this whole time, and now it looks like the same bumbling ITALY idiot. We all are now operating as last man. Oh yeah, this is like a dozen area. One person, you finish the interview percent last year- one should be done I have them in a half of your life was plain for that team. Is it's incredible? Twenty years a you know, one place one way. One process out. I've had a few different homes over their mood a few times, but it was incredible. It was perfect. I wouldn't change it wasn't not every day was perfect. Betty was everything that was supposed to be one thing to that. I think is really special about your job
in your life. Is that I'd compared to act in a little bit like you get on a set me in there is someone from every walk of life there, and I have to imagine half of the fun of your job is what a diverse group of dunes every Socio economic group, every kind of background like has it been wonderful the beam, first and so much diversity and different points of view. Yeah yeah, I think sports affords all those things and I've been doing that for twenty five years, including college in thirty years, including high school, and you come together. Just see a guy. You see where he's from you see who he is, and you see him as a brother and you go all right we're in this together. Let's see what you got, you know you look in the heart, I play with tee may said, broke bones and broke ribs and internal bleeding in Vienna. Blood come another knows there warriors, you know their gladiators and I think tat. I was I know the guys who one if I was ever in a box. I know the guys that unwanted there with me. You know yeah there,
others, that I know that I wouldn't sports raise out of us and it's like he now you see ever won their good or bad the ugly, their indifferent. The pistol moved a happy mood, the achievement of things, and you know it's been a blessing for me. I don't want to hear by one still boy. You know yeah. Well, I hope you don't stop. I think be so awesome if you were out there in a wheelchair new role back and still working right now we're getting yielding. I got their autonomy a year is nice is your gorgeous and we feel so flattered that you took time to talk to us. We were really really excited. You were in the bill gates, category of like thrill that you are willing to talk to a cell thanks. So much for your time really look forward to seeing you play in Tampa Bay and uh. You know anytime. You want a chill with me. Just let me now I'll, be there oh yeah: let's do it die man, things are Jake, you guys shit
and now my favorite part of the show the back check with my saw a man. Do you think that your burps have increased as you aged now? I've always had lots of works, good question. Well, I D give increased and watched for days is doing more oral nicotine share, and that gives me burps also die coke. Diet? Coke switch Vanunu day yeah they give me some more verbs. John Mulvaney has a really funny bed and, I think, has last special about burping alive as he gets We are all in like talking through bird. On it makes
think of my father and my father used to you know he ate like no one. I've ever seen so impressive. He lay like a pizza with nachos on top of the pizza mass chamber. Ass master s also over everything here is in crazy. What do you do that, then? You know expectantly he would get. Tremendous heartburn. He was always going on with our burn right gas pipelines and tax in this and that when it got really bad he'd take tablespoons of big himself and eat it. Now, yes, and then he would ride around on the couch like position in his body in them he would let out the most incredible growl like a lion roar far and knew no Norbert who knew a couple more. Those online I was a whole area- was like use delivering a baby No, I think I was just judge mental, unlike Jesus Christ. This position, you got yourself a baking sir,
whose eating raw big ass, a doktor could not have recommended that to him. That must have been his own trial and error. Do you think he just loved the taste of food, or do you think you? He just needed mass quantities, things. I think, because of all these auto accidents he smell, you know, I've told you about that. There is. It was great free, to be around him. You could to cross your mind whether or not he would spell it so I dont think you smelling all that well, witches explains like he goes through a tabasco. Probably every four, is now like hover, and I really must ask yourself: I dont think those for the tastes as much as just you know he's an act like I am the Anna. He had the food aspect of a really bad I've been Superman. Us that there will. You see me, eat attitude, for sure I can put that off in the frequency is very low Oh, I go for it. I go for it. I often think if he was just my boy,
you're, not my dad. I probably got such a bang out of men, Joyed all the stuff, of course, the axes gun like Erin. The weekly, about which I find to be really funny on earth does that stuff, but with my dad had disappeared Aaron, sent me a very sweet birthday card. That was a penis appeals, The hearse and, like my Bolsa cowboy character, exactly and I'm gonna printed and add it to my dirty, our collection off its great having use really flatter with him when she liked to me, I love it so Q, going back to burps, backed whereby you very very rarely Burke, I know I know you almost never, I can't even think of one in my memory same I had better, it's rare: will you don't drink wellness entry, drink your periods in Euro Spindrift? You you, like a carbonate,
yeah. So I don't know why you're not anymore same. Do you think it's a deficiency or a superpower or above I have to admit, will because they say right that some, animals can burn or far too viewer those. Now they can't far but it's really wives to urban legend or something, but I feel, like I heard certain animals can express gas. So they can't find himself. Things are below. Oh no. I never heard a bird far view now they been put. By bird serve. It makes me think that you would have heard one far will we have heard it they're so high up? Well, you could hear give Aaron worn a tree outside our house in he varden you'd. Here it is a bigger
I'm all the air strikes have the tiniest rack down we are doing so can hold on to birds, fart birds, Heaven anus in so technically could far. But today there has been no official evidence that they do is also possible that ornithologist have Miss bird farts because they leak out passively rather than in one irruption, more or birds could be burping to release unwanted gas wow adds that was own. That's a BBC science focused magazine. So that's that's right. This is a vaccine article. Does it far which animals far, which do- and why are you, regard ok pater to determine, it's better than ever heard it it's when minors were like mining for gold and they find a stream of gold, and that's that pay dirt. Oh ok, this is from vocs I wanna credit, their authors, and simulates by Brian Resnick, farting crossing,
were kingdom is wonderfully diverse. A new book explains: let's eat. Rang attains yes salamanders! Maybe two walls, no ok, well very, go! Oh, do snakes far and she didn't know the answer. While others we are, the whole, it's a wormhole. Do you think worms Pask ass, though there whole, absolutely incapable of giving this is ran out again here. I think we're down there on intended and would have been the meanest thing you ve ever done like your bad laugh, that's what you do with pond all pony, because they're, not by ok. So when you intolerant
how can about height, you said: Vince Bond is a giant yeah that is roughly Tom, Brady's height now Vinci, six five. According to the internet and Thomas six, for, according to the internet, these ex wife having stood next week unless he had like really big yields Ramadan but didn't he tell us also he was six four I've, always in six five shoot at all a member here. Time left. Young. He's correct US comments, so you said there was a documentary with John Daily and Tiger woods. I couldn't find a dark, but this story out there, it's like in articles- and I think maybe you type IRAN Stern, be heard at on star possible. The seller story, Ally John Daily yeah. It which is, sad! There are so many
layers to olive oil. One is the irony that it would appear that tiger did have some drinking issue. Eyes and stop idle, I mean I'm not saying he's an attic during anything. I don't really know. I just know that these these at consequences from drinking in what breaks my heart about it, John Daily, is that that is kind of his claim to fame witches. Oh Tiger said I have more natural talent in him, but then really sad? That should be something that he wants to tell people, because he adds
did you call him, then brilliant yeah yeah. He was too big of a party animal speaking of games and winning and stop here. We have this conversation last night, so Jas Map Laura and I are in really intense spades tournament really into spades Laura, and I are currently partners against just and map now. Spades is a game of technique for sure o strategy strategy of strategy by there is only so much you can do. Your ship car, yes like Laura, was getting really upset.
Ok, because R R Games were not going gray. We were getting really should he hands over and over again she was getting really upset, and I said you know if I'm just deltas shitty hand, I don't actually feel that competitive like. I don't feel that bad after ya, but if I forgot the great yeah, if I make a mistake, then I'm so upset here and she was the opposite. She's If she just gets Delta should hinge he's like what's the point she gets really mad. So I was an interesting that's corner intuitive, because this well documented proclaim, we have four loss aversion right. A loss aversion Maya's, so it would make sense to you to prefer to have shitty hands, knew nothing with it. Then a great LISA yeah lost an opportunity as opposed to created one exactly you are the reason
work out to blame me in on some external thing, Yes, she felt differently, which it that was really interesting about that, should make you guys a good team. You bringing different perspectives to. I know if I, like my antidepressants, were working I feel that sir, oh that's great yeah. Also. We should maybe announced that Laura has joined us in working on armchair expert, which really father she's, helping me added in arms and it's a real testament lorries skill set that you would trust her yeah yeah Their ultimate bar to pass is the Monica standards on transferring lotta control. I'm! Ok, I'm just going to read the John Daily Tiger Woods. All story. Ok, ok! It was during the two thousand for target World challenge and Daily had just completed the Wednesday programme with some friends and was in the club house drinking and telling stories when Tiger Woods walked into the room.
Tigers there in his work. How clothes and I said tire come- have a beer. What this man data, recalls woods declined explaining that he was bound for the german one of his ubiquitous work out sessions daily persisted. I go me you need to work out. You need to drink a little bit with us. Woods answer is the stuff of legend. He said if I had your talent I'd, be doing the same thing. You're doing daily said the moon coughed. Yet car OJ, cleared his throat coming carved daily, says: I'm lucky, I M thinking, you're crazy man, you're crazy man That's good. That was a good John Daily. Thank especially having never see him are you I just. I was channeling like my version of ham. I would play him in a buyer beer you likely to get
the way after seeing Hamilton yeah. I think you could do it was such a paradigm shift. For me, that's not the same as me play. Being a male. Why golfer, there's all kinds of reasons why you be a bad pic? I know you don't look like a golfer, don't have the size, your female and he was now you're of indian origin, use honking, yeah, there's a bunch of reasons, but you know the vacant. Amber is low, Leslie Autumn Junior Flask, as he that's only one thing there right, but it does lead me to believe that the stories that is the case. You stories. That is what is compelling. I realise the face of the sea. Three percent. Do it you should
you, and I should make all my god. This would be an incredible art installation, Bill Gregg. I was thinking in terms of Hamilton in it doesn't matter to me, but I did think about the fact that my kids have been introduced both Alexander Hamilton, played by Lynn, man well and then black Ehrenberg Black George Washington, that in their mine they may they may think of those historical figures is right in the rest of your life. I don't think they were now executive say I kind of now associating seating with being black but I've never seen a photo of bursting and just never seen em Burgee ACT did right,
and now I am have seen in it was by lazily. So maybe my image of him in my mind, is a little bit later. Fucking gorgeous staying yeah, I got it needs a shooting. When you shouldn't make love. Love is attractive, is swag swags one, ok, What's the name of the documentary, you watch lot of documentary, Huntingdon being my where Pringles dangles dangles, where Brett far I can guess I, but it wasn't HBO real sports, the documentary about being depressed after retiring, I think, maybe comes from the documentary series State of play- happiness. Oh boy, HBO Doc, serious state of play happiness is very pulse. I watch almost everything doc wise on each be oh yeah. They ve built a lot of trust with me where workers. We in the middle of a great while United Maxine. Ok,
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