You don't, really have to be doing anything and tell your thirty like. I know duty has her world you have to graduate with honours its sick. otherwise there's gonna, be issued by but hey wealth, It is today's sunday special with Adam corolla, I'm going to jump in, and just second first I wanna say thanks to our sponsors over at express vpn. So with all the recent news about data hacks and breaches, it is very hard for me not to worry about my no privacy, because, no matter what you do online, your mobile carrier, your internet service provider, they track at all every website. You visit every email you send. So that's why I decided to take back. privacy by using express bbn. These days I don't use the internet without. recipient as the world's leading european provider. It lets you securely use the internet without being tracked by any one which is pretty great, especially if you're a prominent personage like myself and you're afraid that people can be grabbing your info

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actually podcast medium and it was really Adam who well you hid it. I mean there are other I out there but atoms, the guy who actually made podcast a thing. More people could support themselves, and have a living doing it. Yeah, maybe yeah I've. There were others, but the ouse, probably first one sort of independently to figure out a way to do it. That may be apparent company like NPR espn or something. is aaron talk about exactly how you came to do that. One start by talking a little bit about your upbringing, because you're really eclectic dude many have I guess you, don't you make a documentary now a dentist prager about bias on college campuses. You didn't go to college. You are really overtly conservative. You're, more just a common sense guy. Yet What? Where did? Where did you come from him in your now? Listen to buy at my one million people per episode. I was using a marie's that of a bar rag. That's where I came from, and I grew up in north hollywood- california, which you know, has a word hollywood in it, but couldn't be any further than hollywood,

It was like from hollywood like every once in a while, be like. I saw Robert Europe in the parking lot at quigley's. Oh my god, you know like there's like weird like dad but really know celebrities, I grew up food stamps and welfare and a kind of disjointed family, where we got stuff for free from my grandparents and the and the man and a kind of quickly. I got a quick last syn. and how that works. Like cyber up a north hollywood, my grandparents had a house in north hollywood. one bed room one bath houses like nine hundred square foot houses and the second house they bought in the fifties for literally like ten thousand dollars we got to live at because my mom was now

doing very well and my parents got divorce and so on and so forth, and so we should a free house. Even now, nobody had a job and nobody had me money. We I in a house verses an apartment because my grandparents sort of took pity on their daughter and let us squat in this house like the first thing I figured out is the reason the house was always a mass and the reason was always falling apart. Dishevelled. Everything else is because there was no ownership like it and she shouldn't have been living in a house. We should have been an apartment somewhere or in a van So we live in This house in the house, this kind of came on done again the hand somebody something for free and the desserts coming undone, and then it was like food stamps and welfare whatever free, like literally spaghetti night at the church, go to the church whenever we could get free lunch programmes at the school with the ticket

and the breakfast programs, like all the programs, all the freebies, all the whatever- and I just kind of remember thinking like I- I felt like my family sort of hobbled because they got just enough to get. By and not be really motivated, so they just can exist it. What right away privilege him in I said I you through what time is it accepts, still keeps I at luck, it's it's insane because it what's insane with with me is, as I do think there a kind of a weird. There is a kind of a prejudice or like an assumed prejudice when people go while I am come on you're. Well, sir, in your white guy. You drive a nice car. You want to college like, like, I would say, like I will say, to people I want to north how at high a graduate nor how it high I start, cleaning carpets up the street literally aimed carpet cleaning and- and then I got to construct

and when I say gotta construction, I showed up on a job site and pull the ivy off the side of a house and silver like and dragged it up to the dumpster I dug ditches. I literally doug ditches. I picked up garbage and that's all I did and they go what would you do after college? you're, not listening- college, no essay tease out I never took an algebra class. I took highschool math, let down by what I ve looked at my transcript the other day. Came in at northanger at high out of my graduating class of five? Seventy I came in for ninety seven, and I know thirty of those kids moved a phoenix or died or like both like that.

literally like almost out of five hundred kids, I came up four seven, four, ninety seven, so I was a horrible student and even when I tried it was a horrible student and then I just got pushed out into the world into sorta had to make do an intern terms of the white privilege. I work that this notion of like hey these are jobs. Americans won't do when I did carpet cleaning which has the lowest form of like manual labor, like literally get into a van drive to a colony, kitchener tony romas, whenever in the in the middle of the night and just get the steamer out and steam the entire one and clean the entire restaurant and then go back at four in the morning, drop the van off and go go home and get paid six.

now I did that originally with Chris bomb white guy railed offer super why Ah ha toiler jewish die will be willie maldonado, like italian and or jewish guy and adam corolla. Those were the five white folks that work for aim the carpet in the eighties when we're cleaner, carpet and then later on, when I got to a construction site There were latin guys, and then there was me and other white guys we're just poor that the thing is whenever somebody goes like who's going to pick your lettuce or who's going to dig that ditch or who's going to clean your carpets or who's going to bust the strains like or people, I knew a lot of or people so learn. you get there. The work ethic from it sounds like your mammals and begin to it and yet you're somebody who is working hard

Basically from the time that you left high school and I know you're into football when you're a nice girl was well yeah. I learn my work ethic from sports, probably football which was a really hard, taxing sort, a hot and you're, not like I learned to football, will teach you discomfort and had a kind of tolerate. Discomfort, because when you're in the san fernando valley and running you're doing two days in early september and its brutal outside and they think water bad for you just rents, don't eat off like a fish spit it out your grandpa like I'm deplete run and winds and like full, full gear? It's crazy! It's like them! Shall I probably learn that later on. I just learned that I had to use my back to make money, so I didn't have any kind of

There was no path in intellectually to get paid self. I was gonna get paid, it was. It was gonna, be because a stack of dry wall over there and you need that stack dry, drywall moved over there and that's how I got paid and in literally digging ditches and just damn owing out stuck one hauling garbage it out like that that's all. I did. I had jobs where I just get dropped off at the pure one imports now on wilshire in santa Monica we built in a million years ago, and there is a huge pile of dirt like like size and like to minivans, and they gave me a shovel a wheelbarrow and there like that

dumpsters over there and they're like, however long it takes you to get that into that, then you can leave it as this alone, just like all day, just scoop in one load at a time at counting my steps and try not to go insane but anyway, as someone who once picked up an object, terrible terrible me me yeah night, not, I could definitely not be in the shapiro will house in ninety. Ninety six bench peril picked up. A feather duster, did it to one of its wires tat settlement founded is yeah they held him now labour in the jewish community, oh yeah yeah. I was what acres There are no jews on the construction site ever, which always is something that is funny, because when I did construction all throughout the san, fernando phallic I'd be a chat.

the park. Simi valley baba, but no one ever said to me you're jewish right cause. I could go either way. I got Adam right. I got the jew fro. I would complain a lot or like what that guy, but no one it was. I was definitely italian or or just a non jew. When I got out of construction and got into writing comedy as light while you're jewish. You know right now and generating I've. Never. I was never seen. If our jew construction site whenever mistaken for I go. I am in a writer touches just goes to show, like you tell people you know you tell me what hey don't stereotype, while there playing the euro two years on a construction site. zero, going in and with this hair, They met in a writers room like they're, trying to save time. I learned how to work hard like working construction and it was like an

but I also learned like I don't really get paid by the hour, because I remember have any slight fantasies right. I slight goin. Will you get eight dollars an hour now you know and your job. Your plan is civic work. Fifty maybe sixty hours a week and unlike pay your bills with your roommates and your apartments and stuff like that. But I was like, even if you got paid I think it's some princely, some like eighteen dollars an hour or twenty two dollars now, even if you ve got paid lets, you say twenty five, dollars an hour. It still would be by the hour, like you'd still have to be here on this job site that you don't want to be on. So it's it started. I started thinking early may be the by the hour way. Isn't there isn't a way to go and see? How did you get from doing that? To comedy eminence, that's a pretty

radical shift from, as you say, being the person who is slipping wheelbarrows full of dirt place to being in writers rooms on comedy. How did you? How did actually do that? I I like sat down and my part man when I was like twenty two and I've been doing labour. Or you know like labor and carpentry for maybe three years and I was driving like a beat up old mini pickup truck but like no head, wrasse and stuff and, like I didn't have insurance and in in I was in construction, is very like day labor kind of stuff like it's like you, don't get paid on christmas. range. You don't go to work. You don't get paid that day, like literally, if you rolled your ankle playing basketball on a sunday, you couldn't go in there. They wouldn't care, but they're, not you! You don't get paid, but that you would. Have to call anyone and go like I'm, not gonna, be here, there's really.

I'll be here, don't get back. We won't pay like if you left at lunch time and did half a day. Have thirty four hours on europe on your time like, and I was like her that sacks like how you gonna wanna house, how going to pay mortgage, how you even going to get credit- I didn't have credit or anything like everything was kind of under the able or whatever was like catches. Catch can, and I was it's gonna be long, uncomfortable life and your families. It not me equation in terms of like no is gonna leave your business serve our europe. grandfathers, collection of dues and birds, and they all year hidden, I feel I sell them at auction and live comfortably, but there was no one had anything. No one's going to help so I was like twenty two twenty three, as in my apartment, with no air conditioning in north hollywood, my back three roommates like a one bedroom- and I was like alright. So what what's the plan-

What what could possible be the plan and one plan was like what get your contractor's license and get a better truck and and and maybe get a crew, or something like that. I was just like yeah, but that's still tough and it's a lot of work and you get your tools ripped off and it's just it's a tough life and he and he don't get paid that much, and so I was like alright. So what else do you do it as like, while you're funny, like so you're, you're good with your hands and then you're fun? So I was like trying to think of things like sort of practically, even though comedy, doesn't sound, very practical and it doesn't sound like a a high percentage, should a job to go into, but I knew anything that involve studying or training or tests. Taking that wouldn't work like I was not going to be our go you'll be. dental hygienist and I was like I would never be able to pull that off. So I was like you are good at comedy

not even know what that means a just means. I was good a comedy like people are good with their hands, but you still have to learn a skill. A trade you now otherwise, being just good with your hands is not mean you can read plans and build a house, so I was like okay. So what's the plan plan was your twenty two. You don't really have to be doing anything and tell your thirty and in my world like, on your duty. Has her world you have to graduate with honours its sick. teen, otherwise there's gonna be an issue. But for me I was like when you're thirty, you must become a man that was my like bar mitzvah, like I was like, I think you can screw around. No one really thinks you're a loser when you're screwing around in your twenties, but at a thirty I want to be doing something.

But my goal was don't put the pressure on yourself. You have like eight years to figure out this thing called comedy and don't even put the pressure on yourself, which is when you're No thirty! You gotta be on tv. You have to have your own show or have to be syndicated. Radio hose there, I didn't have any that I just had right you make money off your back. Could you make money off of your ideas are something that involves some air can like I just wanted to american conditioning, is when it gets hot and you just eat. You sit. pilot dry wall and it's like it gets brutal over dinner. My entire life, nigeria, and so I just like I would be happy working for a greeting card company,

if we were in a room and there are three people pitching funny fathers day cards and I could like come up with some funny ideas. You know that that was about it like I was like I didn't have the bar too high, but I needed to be doing something that had dental insurance or something and so I said well, what would you gotta do and somebody said we'll take a groundlings class and you could go to the groundlings and like learn how to do improvisational comedy and get up on stage and do group comedy and sketches and like write stuff down and stuff like that, I was like okay, so here I was like with literally with no car insurance and no medical or dental insurance or anything just living hand to mouth.

and but I paid like two hundred and seventy five box for groundlings class. It out and- and I was like going out on Sunday night and just doing open, might said, wait. in line and stuff like that, and everyone in my work it was kind of like. Are you nuts like what are you paying for or like we're going out sunday night or whatever organs beers around in the park You know what and I'd be like. I'm gonna go wait line at rooster, t feathers to differ, minutes tat you our neurons, like our you high an end I don't know what I'm doing, but I know I have to do this thing over here and by myself to work full time in this very different world. this construction, and so how did you get from doing in a three minute comedy sets to then doing what now. That's a pretty large under a lot of folks in they who are doing more in line with you. There were now probably managing coffee bid

now over not doing exactly what you're dead, now. I know, and I cursed those people and the reason I cursed them- is because many nights I would go out and it like. Hey we're cutting it off at forty people like an a or forty or fifty people would show up and they'd go only eighteen or getting up on stage to put your name in a hat. Guy pull the name out, and I wouldn't make it and I realize if you are doing something- and you shouldn't be doing It- your possibly probe wanting other people who should be doing it from doing it. So it's like, I didn't get up on stage that night, because a guy who is managing the coffee bean did get up on stage. I so I It was I I was plugging around for like eight years and and I was doing stand up and as doing sketch and I still like well acting- and I still love writing and I sound like little

it's in pieces of miniature. Success am it also at that time got into teaching boxing for a living because a not for living. I taught morning classes at a place called bodies in motion. A teach like the seven am class at six. Thirty am class and get like twenty bucks a class or something, but it was boxing- was just another story of some us into and blah blah blah, but it was part of me kind of going as you get to thirty. He and as the comedy dream, isn't really coming to fruition the doing something where you're on your feet, where you're, interacting with people where you're talking to people construction, would be lonely like you'd just go there and you just go you'd work alone, a lot of times just be sitting in some half finished house in Simi valley, just put in molding or bay

sure crown or whatever it is all day and like I was kind of like I want to talk and when ideas I want a clown. I wanna, you don't make people laugh and whatever, and so when I teach him my boxing classes, you get these twenty people. And you get the kind of conduct in lead and, like I taught comedy traffic school for the same reason like I don't care about traffic school, but I want to be on my feet. I want to be telling jokes and I want to be whatever subs doing all these things, and so, while I would, I would teach boxing in the morning and then I would go, do my carpentry and at that point I just work for myself, like I said clients and I just build cabins or whatever, as kind of getting by and I and as dry, my truck over the hill with somebody's entertainment unit in the in the back, and it was a. It was a very it's kind of a haunting thing and I'll. Tell you why? Because just it.

Come full circle here, so I'm driving over the hill and I'm going to a woman named Marjorie Grossman's house, probably jewish, and she is writing for seinfeld. She has a job writing for seinfeld and she heard about me and she just bought her first house on the west side and putting in I'm gonna build her an entertainment unit, blah blah blah, and so I literally called from her house as I'm driving over the hill, I'm listening to K rock radio and listen to Kevin and bean. I'm listening to jimmy the sports guy, who now Jimmy kimmel back then, like third banana on the morning, show getting into an argument with Michael the maintenance man and next thing, we're gonna have a boxing match between Michael the maidens man in Jimmy the sports guy.

I didn't know either one of em obvious lavender, like a person this listening to the radio. You know, and I get the marjorie Grossman house and am I could I use your phone? calling K rock going, hey, I'm a boxing trainer because they put it out there like we need trainers. We need a venue. We need equipment and I'm like I could train now. It's so funny because I would assume I wanted to train Jimmy, but I didn't because Jimmy had just got to the radio station. He was there like for three or four weeks. Michael amendments, man had been there for a number of years was kind of a fixture also, well. Michael, was black and I was just playing the odds like they did on the construction site in the writers room. I was just going to say the brother he's got a more ability that ring, and so I didn't want to train I've tick either way one, but I wasn't like. I was just calling for marjorie s house go in

well I'll hold you know and like you like, leaving a message. Hey, this is frank murphy. Are he a producer the morning show this never called back like one hundred mess I'd be, and I'm in I remember also. I was talking to marjorie and she's like yeah, I write for seinfeld, oh, How does it work? It's like? Well, we get into a big room. You know we order some chinese food and like who pays for I don't know, but you don't have to pay for no, like someone el space for the chinese, our or we could get a dahlia but every day tat, because construction site, was who owes the lunch drug money. So I it is like

We just start spit balling ideas, and then we have a big dry erase board like him, you're getting like thousands of dollars a week for eating chinese food and spit balling ideas and asic. Oh- and I remember thinking like you got it made, you got it made. Ah, so I built her her thing and I kept calling K rock and they kept not answering and I like the next day, I would I would I would get. I would hear him again on the radio like hey, we're, looking for trainers and they interview like a trainer on the phone like hey, we got a trainer on the phone and I'd be like no. No, no, it's me I'll be the trainer I'll be the trainer. And at some point I realized I he d show up at kara has nobody's. I didn't have a cell phone, you know I've had to go, use, marjorie grows

its mouth and no one was, and I had to go to the building. I found out where the building was in burbank, an irish. I showed up before my class. It like sixty yeah and I got into the lobby, but the building was close like I couldn't go up the elevator to K rock or whatever, and I was like they're like yeah, the the the elevators no serco until seven or something so I went and taught my class and the next day I got a guy named tree. Who are good name and last name around tree, nickname tree, that's a box, and so I got trade a cover. My class and I went back at seven and I got up the elevator to the nine floor. Were kara was a commercial building, but kara was locked like kara. An open until nine for business. So now just standing in the halls of the nine floor of a commercial.

building and burbank by the elevators, and unlike that, they don't show up tom, in the morning shows on but they're like tucked away in the corner and it'd, be like you and I sitting here and someone just standing out in the lobby who couldn't get up here. So I just stood there like I was like. Where should I go? What should I do and I stood there? and some guy came up the elevator and he clearly it like a hand truck or something he had business like he was off some stuff and he was- looking around this back call like go in. What is now, I know, is the back door of Iraq. It with the key, add or whatever- and I was like following him like. Are you going into K rock and there he's like yeah, you know filling the vending machine or something I was like. Could you tell him there's a boxing coach waiting by the elevators I'll, just wait by the elevator should go. Tell anyone in there is a boxing coach. there's a guy I went in and I just stood by the

later for, like twenty minutes or something, and at some point Jimmy just came down the hall same direction, the guy. When we just kind of walked up to me. It was probably it's doing the morning show he's, probably in the middle of doing the show, and it's like are you the boxing coach and I said yeah, and he said okay and as like, I could be your boxing coach. it's like yeah, okay, okay, he's like I like when you want to start he's like I dunno today later today, after I'm done and I'm like yeah yeah, let's start like about noon and bodies. Emotion in pasadena, like ok, I'll meet you at the party, in you. I just stood there like the parking structure he pulled up in a beat up, rx seven like I was really beat on and ass. I My suit troopers, nicer than guys aren't, is evidently I murmured again. If I on this, but I was like I got three weeks: a train, this guy.

And all I want to do is pick his brain about how he got in the radio how he got the comedy. Now he's not high up the food chain, kara right, so he's gonna does some writing? Does some producing does some editing and does the sports bed, but he's not Kevin are being or frank murphy the producer, so he sacked the bill march in there and go hey fellas new plan. This guy's, like is nothing so, but but we just keep talkin about comedy and comedy comedy comedy and- and he kind of realizes that I have some some ability beyond boxing for for comedy and he he does the fight. He loses the fight a set amount for the second round oh mouthpiece. I remember his mouth me. She said the hen better, we're like burgomaster mountains

So after the fight, he goes well like now, a kind of done you know and as like yeah. What what could I do? You know, and he said he said well, what are you? What do you do like What do you want to do and I was like? I don't really know- and I said well what I do is I. I hang out a crack wise fast on my feet and I just kind of roll with it and he said Yeah kevin and bean that's their job, they don't need you doing that size like well. What could I do and he said, come up with a character and you could call in like monday morning and is probably never going to work and they'll never want to hear it again, but that's the only shot you got and I was like. I don't really do characters. He's like well come up with a deaf ear. Net phone gets it at an one. Second, first owners who, thanks to our sponsors over

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how to use the tables are what get away from my drill index outside a red. I go back, that's right and middle school. There do an eastern engage- and Mr Martin and MR supports Mr Walter's end and so as like a shop teach a shop teacher, who taught remedial. Would it louis past your middle school and monrovia, and his name was mister birch, because bird it a kind of wood- and I I pop warner football with a guy named birch and I'd, say: that's a cool name and also smells like. Would you now but then I was like. Why would MR bertram call Hayrack in the morning? But what will look I was approaching it like. I was a groundlings in us like what is his motivation for calling Hayrack in motivation would always be that he was injured, third in the shop over the weekend.

Wasn't coming in Monday morning. School cause, I'd call like seven fifteen As I know all these kids listen to your crappy music, like they love smashing dump lange's and nervous, and all your crappy happy music and are listening thou on their clock radios like our long before my radio saws like lemme ya like them, and I would again well the phone and gonna. Listen to me, you're gonna get Mr hands lay he's gonna come in there with a sweater vast from home. Ak he's gonna substitute side like make some some day about him and I go nowhere doing anything, he's gonna fire up, the dew came projector or blood on the ban saw on you. Guys are all right out there s a crisis which have had on the das, nobody's touching the tools or anything I would go check for Brad Higgins, star It seems there is always one student like rats listed under brad

and I'd be like so help me, god. If I come back there tomorrow So one got into my drill and acts or my marquis de calendar. I'm gonna be rip up and and then I would tell Brad had a like go through, like us think about a dovetail joy, but maybe a finger joy. but also I don't to deal but joint brad. Let's do Data on alleged do rabbit, put ok, brad, take the data set up and put it on the reason why our friends said if the data on the table saw- and I just start getting into this- like crazy, daily schedule on sheer wall and and stuff like that and and the the character was huge because everyone thought he's actually a guy like, and so they used to start. They'd have me like come in

the studio and like people call up and in go like. I want to make a play house for my kid or something like that. I'd go treated bottom play to buy for sixteen on centre. That's your lab double top play. You know, use a sixteen penny sinker, but don't use cinctures when you're cheer wall and use like a ten penny ring jack as sectors vile kurds. Gonna come out. Are you can nail it off with a penny tankers make sure struck one in a city acts half an inch, goodwin side put the label advocate in its back that- and I am very eager like ours. You know what this stuff is you now, and so people were certain intrigue that this guy was like funny he also every time someone called then heat. They go like A roofer came to the house and he said that

the metal on drip edge. Now now weeps great weeps, great, like They re worried about. How do you know what he said to them? The picture myself on a roof and weep scrape. so, if a cod on I got- and by willy morris I became the sort of local, celebrity I immediately like got offers and and stuff like that. I got a manager and to state the bitter sweet weird circle. This is then

about two years in or maybe even a year and a half into it stuff happened immediately. Once I got on a rock, he just happened fast. I get this call from my manager and he's like hey. I got a call from a marjorie grossman's rather, and they said what why and he said, cause he's he's getting he's taken getting her affairs in order whatever, and I said what have oh, she died of like ovarian cancer. A few months ago I was like oh really yang. Her brother is going through. All. Our staff and her brother wants to know why. There's a cheque for twelve hundred dollar stand corolla his brother knew who Adam crew you gotta. She wrote me a cheque for an pearl, the comedian, but she wrote a czech datum curl of the carpenter and our member

it was like literally yesterday I was envying her life and also god, god you got me, you got a new house, you got entertainment, you're working rent and she just died like that. And now I'm like got my manager, and I know willie morris and blah blah blah, and I was like At life's pretty pretty interesting tapestry as the un does, he ended up obviously becoming huge on radio and then eventually, you decided to launch a pirate ship of your own and as we fast forward to that, we've already yeah exactly so. How did you so? How did that come about? How did you decide? You know I'm done with radio, I'm not doing terrestrial any more. Now I want to do this. Podcast nobody had really tried successfully to that point but used by roma before there even was a market, and now the rest of us gets to make a living in it, yeah where's, my veg Can I at least wet might be asked him. I'm not the government, but it had a precedent is kind of a standard. It piloting. We, I I never thought of

I never thought about anything in advance. Other than move forward, like I'm kind of like. you know I always kind of look bad. It is like hey we're in the middle of the ocean. Looked toward the horizon or look toward wherever you think land is in just start swimming and then, like somebody would keep saying where you goin or what island, when you should inform together, I'm going. I don't know, I'm just on this, going that way I go. Well, how do you know there's and I'd like? Well, the alternative is just kind of treading water out here until we're consumed by sharks like so I'm like, let's just let's just go so I always assumed. In radio that I would get thrown off of radio for saying some stupid and then I'd go get another job somewhere else like it was like well get cut for this.

team for getting into it with the coach bad. I'm a good ballplayer, not just get picked up by this other team. What I of the league was gonna collapse and what happened? In oh wait, oh nine with my radio is sort of the league collapse like there was no more guys getting paid lot of box to give their opinions on the fm side. So at all the fm side just completely went to music and playlists and nope no dj's, and somebody figured out like why are we paying these guys, hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars? It is when we just do program. So there was no more work and I had this. I had two young kids and a pretty good lifestyle,

in terms of like mortgage in a warehouse, and you know a couple of cars and, like I had a kind of big monthly night and no job, and I was getting paid for like nine months to the end of my contract. So I was just like I did not believe in podcasting per se, because there wasn't any model for podcasting and in terms of revenue generation. So my thing was, like after all the work that I did, which would literally be like go to that apartment, get on the roof and scrape the tar paper off it. As like that's worth talking is some you do with a friend at lunch that that is one of the most enjoyable endeavours like what's better than you having lunch with a guy. You just love to talk to you,

you know, like you and I we love Dennis Prager, going out to dinner with danish prager. That's two hours a talk, but that's you pay for that sounds like I'd ever went to look at talking as it is a job, so and I also have built this audience over the years- and I don't wanna- have might heather, come on and like flowed out somewhere for and then come back and see if I can get them gathered up and into the tent again, so slight? Well, what I knew we had many millions of minutes of streaming every month, but the radio station in their showed an infinite wisdom was like they come in and they go You guys are number five in los angeles, you gotta get near the top three o and had nineteen million minutes streaming last month. I got well that's good for some right. They go What's that way, I get going. Literally like nineteen billion minutes streaming in a month ago.

I've gotta be something right, so that thought is wells getting paid for ten months did stay home essentially as site. Well, start podcast, and it really has changed everything I mean everybody. I had Joe rogan in here a few weeks ago and we were talking about you and he was crediting you as guy that the guy who kennel realized that, other continent out there that nobody else knew was out there. Novice nets happened for for a huge number. It's also created an enormous amount of liberty in the space. Has being on radio. You break a longer night about? Did radio too there's always this fee? the you're going say the one thing and then the one thing will get you fired and it will finish your career you for you. It's a lot harder, in committee, and now I was going to ask you this from their beginning, how how'd you comedy in an era of political correctness, because it seems like everybody is getting slaughter right now. Every comedian gets to answer. point and then deny the long. I've just come out. If you make the wrong just jokes less, you are properly woke or ear.

You're Amy, Schumer and you're just going to make a bunch of feminists jokes or something and say whatever we want, but if you're anybody else mean you're white dude, who's relatively, would simply conservative on it releases perceive that way, and that means denial now tat? He knew how to deal with that. You know it's kind of interesting, but I do feel like They do as much as they think they can get, meaning. I've had plenty that in my my career, I think if the attitude is I don't apologize, I don't care. What attacking me is not going to be satisfying for you. There needs to be every. I was just talking about this on my five gas, which is I used to fight in the street a fair bit. Not a lot but like I've had definitely had some street fights and I knew how to fight and I was dislike.

no twenty two and I'd like I would fight, and I always knew I wasn't a mean person and I would not pick a fight with anybody, but I knew if somebody wanted to fight. I knew exactly how to get them out into the street with me to fight like we want to leave this party and we will go fight. I would tell him I don't want to fight. I I I don't want, I don't want trouble Like I really don't want trouble and their answer would be. Oh, you found trouble yeah, but I'm really I'm kind of, allow a guy and- and I just I'm sorry for stepped on your foot or something in the kitchen, but I do and they'd be like yeah this a bad day for you.

ok! Well, I guess we got a guy and I beat him up by, but all I had to do is take a step or two backwards and they took two big step forward. If you step forward, they don't step forward. They they realize it's. No, it's it's! It's! It's! It's no fun! Going after Adam corolla, it's much better! Getting this guy fired or back. I fired this guy. The people issue, though,. long winded sort of crafted by their publicists apologies, and I, like it so much better and really all you do, is you just cannot come the shove off a couple of times and they just gonna go like right no good like because he doesn't issue these long, winded apology, summit, like that, and I am also just and so at a certain point. You will be who you are like no howard stern can say.

at every once when our once and no one ever demands that howard stern apologize just how its howard stern or it's my snoop dog can smoke we'd wherever he wants. So if I wait until I get a hospital, I couldn't sparta soup dog could fire up a hooker pipe in the middle of an anti terrorist laws and they re like that's, not bad. Is it no doubt like a literally can smoke pot where every once, because he stooped dog, so once you establish yourself, is I'm the person who says things that, if people they sort of leave, you alone, you will send out couple times on the show? You're, not a sensibly politically found yourself in the sort of circle where I have friends on the left, obviously like you're, still good friends with Jimmy kimmel, but then you're also very good friends with Dennis Prager. You and I are friendly. So why is it? Do you think that you've been a by the right when you're really sort.

Consider yourself sort an apolitical dude. Well, you know it's weird. So people say: oh you're, conservative, your right wing or whenever I said well, go back and listen, do love line. They non political radio show it from ninety. Ninety seven rod go: look family education, people shouldn't be, haven't kids, Who can afford kids, they needed for families need to stay together. They need to raise these kids any dead that ITALY's crazy right wing. notions now that no one ever thought of, as is political, that was political like wash the lights with the whites and the colors with the collars like it was just that's how you do laundering like this is how you become successful. You stay together. You raise your kids, you pay, you don't biting if you can't pay for you, don't rely on the government that governments not going to do good job taking care of you, you have to do it yourself, you know delayed gratification or whatever

all the stuff I learned through quite frankly This little microcosm called north hollywood high, is a very interesting. Combination of of different of different folks, different ethnicity, endeavour whenever I was in north, how high we had the jewish kids from studio city, the hills, hebrew heights- There is called and they would come down to north, how I that was there their high school, and you know there was Jeff bach. Wittenberg and Robbie Levine and always gonna guys and there like their fame

We stayed together and they were in student council and they did well in their schoolwork and stuff like that, and then there was like white trash dudes like me, from literally right next to the high school north hollywood, my buddy ray and chris and stuff like that, and then we had some mexican guys who were like from little deeper from the valleys. Black eyes are like boston from south central, because I played football with. All those guys and at a certain point when, when when, when north hollywood high was was done, I said done cause like my friends, some of them they graduate or they just moved on, or they wandered off and at jobs. The jewish kid it's like went off to you. She lay a and stanford cow. The black hair just went back to the hood and the white trash and the mexican guys hung out, got jobs, digging ditches, and so I was like who what's the through line here and it's like well all my friends, the the french parents.

Forced they were living in apartments like they weren't india, education. There were hands off. We know we didn't we're too short a warehouse like nobody was doing homework or whatever. So I put together this composite like very quickly of like what works and what doesn't work just based on. This patria dish called north hollywood high and how these folks went off, Successful we went off the toil in the sun, so I understood that and I've always preached it, and if anyone, no one ever accuse me of being political for many of them, questions I had about just sort of self reliance. You know my mom got welfare and food stamps and she was a mess and the house was a mess and we barely got by and it was a what a bad life and she was like hobbled by it, and she knows she doesn't know she's. Not It shows I've spina, bifida and she's on that issue, she's, not a moron. She just never knew what she could do.

I never knew what I could do until the radio station fired me like I needed be pushed out, and if the right, stay, I would have worked there for a thousand years. So all of a sudden, these things have become political stances, which is its kind of concern. using to me and I'm not really into arguing about you know who does a better job. Like luck it's it's also weird world where you can't speak logically to people like I've had a million or like some of the stuff I get thrown back in my face is like a luck I have some hamson me, my wife god mom and dad a male or female, to raise my kids, because we both offer very different things by that being said, I will take the lesbian while or the gay couple whose doing a little butter who has a better

any van, that's a little newer and a little safer who lives in a better part, a town with a better schools, as I will take them over the heterosexual couple, if they're marginally better. If everything is exactly the same, this we're world, we live at, it's like everything's, the same I'll, give him the male and the female, because traditionally I figured out through nature that works a little better and everyone's like. Oh, so you don't think a gay Above all should be able to raise like now. That's not what I said. Then they do this one, which is always insane, and I I don't know I I I I I wonder this loud all the time and I'm gonna pose this question to you, because I believe I have to be intellectually honest at one of the biggest. problems I got into is when somebody said to me: who's, funnier, men or women. I didn't think I was allowed to say they're both exactly the same I had to

So the question I said men are funnier has are trying to get laid. Why so, then, above all, think about all that all we put into getting late, but also, I said that said. I know plenty of women that are funny or in every guy went to high school wealth. But if you're just gonna ask me I'll, go I'll go with men and I got some crap for that, but here's what I I dont get every time I say to somebody all things being equal I'll. Take the heterosexual couples. Now the gay couples doing a little better in their tax returns and lives in safe, never I'll take the gay couple and then they go I'd, say, you're, saying the heterosexual couple. could be strung out on bath and they could. The woman she's Volta process he's pampered her out their cooking up, they're, making math in wrap of their apartment which, by the way

Is it a very dangerous part of town and the gay couple? That's David catherine and he's down from pay, you would take and I know, I think I was insanely clear. I said all things are the same, all things the same. I would take this, but if the other and then they go well. That's a flawed premise, because you can't make everything the same, and unlike Second, we have the same job whatsoever. The same neighborhood of some may think, one guy like you. de the other, desperate housewives, or something but just think everything the in this I would like now. Are these people stupid like what when they say to me so you and take this Couple that raise is ray. Infested raccoons in their camp. In their double wide over David gonna, like now Why did you say that? Why would you say

are they insane or they intellectually dishonest? Are they lying like? I can't what they expect made ago brought all you caught me like. I said that I have ever. They showed me the same. I do think that there are looking for a a world in which there they need an answer, and the answer is always going to be that it's their political viewpoint or you have a character flaw, So, if you do not repeat their political viewpoint, then it must be. That you have a character of one. They care to fly means that secretly even have already said the stuff secretly. You do believe that the rabies infested double wide with heterosexual is better than david gaffin because you see What motivation is that you like gay people worse than you x, ray we'll x, rated memorial. I gave me that right and so, even if you say all things being equal deep down in your heart, you know secretly, This is really coming from his hand. Mr gay people I think I think it's really what it is. I think, because, having spoken with more people on the left, anybody that I now in my lifetime, I it's it's. It seems to me that when people are being in

the way dishonest. That way- and you see it with Cathy newman and Jordan peterson, for example, or Jordan Peterson- is talking about earnings and Cathy newman is suddenly just recasting everything that he's saying right. She knows what he's saying it's just that she doesn't believe that that's really his motivation in saying it. It's them attempting to read your heart. I think and so, if you're comfortable, it goes back what you were saying early if you're comfortable and who you are it's hard for them to come back at you, because they want to say that your homophobic or europe, sister. Something is I'm not that, and there have any place too oh from there for them, that's the only place the day candle these are they. They acknowledge that you have a like. I'm sure Jimmy doesn't say that to you like you said the same thing because Jimmy knows you're a good guy sure, there's people who don't know you're a good guy and who think you're a bad guy who are going to attribute that motivation? You in Jimmy's is left as it comes vitamin yeah I mean he is, has old, yes, like old fashioned values as well, don't necessarily come out on stage. He definitely is a family man. He super loyal, like he has basic like old school

traditional? I don't know I don't. What's I don't know, what's political? What's not political anymore, but he's very family oriented he's more rules, just than I am- and I got, I won't be a mother at zero dunno. If I got to beat the wrong anyway, we'll find out later he and he's very loyal and he's very honest, like he's, has all the qualities that you would want that grandparents. Want their kids right now, the only one that I'm making is that he's very different than you are, but he's not attributing he's dead motivations to use. I would rather typically- and the same thing is true for people why deal with. I have friends who were on the political left and it don't spend their days miss aligning. You know attributing character to me then. Authorities in person like it seems to me that it's always been about yeah well,

it's also. I think I think part of it. I mean part of the problem. I mean I have this of always had this sort of theory, which is like all roads lead to narcissism and a few we can hop on the line on twitter and say what happened to cecil. The lion was a tragedy, and it should never happen again and it's not going to happen on my watch or something. Then you get to just send out to the heavens that you're, a virtuous person and the way to sell, there's two ways like there's two ways. If I make fifty grand a year there's two ways I can get a ride, One way is work harder and make seventy five grand next year. The next way as push you down from fifteen to twenty five, and thus I just got rags and by my now, it's

horrible math, and it's not way it's not a way to get you self any further down the road, but if ike, if I I personally, if my virtue is safe, and yours is a seven if I can knock you down to a three or minus two than guess who gets beat the top of virtue mountain. And that'll be made so A lot of it is narcissism, that's being disguised is, as some sort of you know, carrying out loud like care, being from that mountain top, like I was talking to my wife the other day. This is like, what's with everybody in their stupid tweets about, you know, I weep for the kids and the border and stuff like that, and it's like it's fine to be, is about kids on the border, but then go down to the border or or write a check to one of the many charitable institutions. Helping those kids on the morbid. You don't need to send it.

I need to know how you feel about what's going on at the border or sees a line or anything else, and I was like my last tweet think my wife got mad about this, but my last tweet was I've. Been tap, had told everyone, it don't do it your kids think, but you can whiz in your sink. If you're tall enough, one of the great time savers of life is like brushing your teeth and with an somebody. Tweeted me, it turns out in the same. Millions of gallons of water and their showing this thing where it's like there's a sink words like you, pay underwent an you wash your hands and it washes whatever, and I tweeted back yes I'm a hero and then somebody tweeted back yeah, but you don't want. your hands so when can I like true like so I tweet now coming across like a hero?

bench. Apparently no, but I think that that might we was a self deprecating array, not here's. What we should do with the border and are we beings need to change it like it? Just, I think, a lot of it Almost all roads lead to narcissism in almost every department, and this is why we're here and so much of this and then also it was considered sort of gauche. To put your opinion. Out all the time for everyone to read your virtuous. I mean, if again for making fun yourself or wisdom in the sank. Five era. Well, It is always a pleasure to have Adam corolla here again, the godfather of podcasting and also a man with a great many tips about where he was so you If you get the information and the company from one hundred girls will get you an apple box and you can join the perfect. Thank you so much as we're always looking for,

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