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Ep. 152 - Glitz, Glamor, Chaos -- It's RNC Time!

2016-07-19

The RNC opens, Hillary lies to the NAACP, and Heather MacDonald joins the program!

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This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
So on Monday night the media went totally apoplectic over pat smith, the mother of Sean smith, who was murdered in the benghazi terror attack of september, eleventh two thousand and twelve smith blasted, for secretary of state Hillary Clinton, saying quote, he was murdered by radical islamic terrorists. I blame hilary you personally for the death of my son sheila? to me and then called me a liar. She looked me squarely in the eye and told me a video was responsible. Then Pat smith concluded. How could you do this to me? How could she do to any american family, so the media, asked what was left of its collective mine. Chris Matthews met ready to go. They show. He said this Growth accusation that the night, eugene robinson of the washington post, so accusation was extraordinary. Rachel Madame said, Psmith was called playing with a very specific kind of fire. That is almost impossible for me to watch. I have to say, these are the same people
jeered wildly when the Democrats trotted out the jersey, girls, widows of nine eleven during the two thousand for a convention. You remember these are also the same people who will cheer wildly when the Democrats unveil their latest round of absurd pseudo victims in order to target cops at the Dnc in philadelphia. Here are just some of the speakers slated for the Dnc. Really. This is real in a fault in the mother of private martin. The Democrats have tried, lay driver. Martens killing is a case in point of police racism? There are only a few problems. First, the guy shot him george Zimmermann was not white. Second george them when it was not a cop third trade on Martin was by all available evidence sitting on time. Of george Zimmermann's prone body in slamming his head into the concrete ones, wonderment shot him. Zimmermann was not only acquitted of a murder charge. The department of justice couldn't find anything to charge him with either here's another one, muslim expanded, the mother of Michael brown. Go brown, you may remember, was a thug who strong arm, robbed convenience store than punched offs are daring. Wilson, try to grab is gonna, shoot him and, finally, The charge the office where, before being shot himself
that's true. According to witness testimony, even holders deal J could not find something wrong with the shooting which didn't stop the left for manufacture shrink from whole cloth narrative of evil white police officers, shooting black men surrendering by shouting hands up, don't shoot What have I done? Car the mother of air authority, garter, you may remember, was not learned by the cops he resisted. Arrest he was placed in a submission hold by the cops. He then died of a heart attack because he was dramatically overweight. He had a long history of health issues ranging from the I to sleep apnea to asthma, that was so that was so bad. He actually adequate a city job. God, or certainly she died over selling lucy's lou cigarettes, but blaming his day, on cop racism is asinine How about maria hamilton mother of Don trey hamilton? You haven't heard this name: it's not really a household name, because Hamilton grabbed an officer baton and hidden in the neck with it before the officer shot him. The officer was fire because hamilton was diagnosed, paranoid schizophrenic, a there's another one, Lucy bath, mother of Jordan Davis, jordan This was murdered by Michael David done. A white guy at a gas station in Florida Davis was playing, is
he's loudly in the car done. Confronted him then got a gun and shot ten rounds into the car davis was convict the first degree murder. So what exact the problem with the criminal justice system are the cops How about geneva reveal she's the mother of sandra bland? Remember Sandra bland committed suicide while in police custody, rumors of an evil police murder and cover up circulated on the net? There is no evidence, any of it all, these women are deemed mothers of the movement. Although what the movement is remains unclear, there is actually one person who should speak, whose mother of the movement cleopatra to carry the mother of her dear pendleton, and you may remember, was a fifteen year old girl who performed and the surrounding obama's second inauguration, then was murdered by gang members in Chicago weeks later, but I she'll target roma manual, the mayor of chicago for its failure to crack. on crime in the city, she's not going blame the drug gang violence fostered by the democratic party, nor single motherhood and cultural deprivation is rash. Violence, probably shall talk uncontrolled next time. Democrats leftist,
when about pat Psmith every you remind them she's telling the truth. Her son died. it did nothing to stop it and then Hilary lied about it. But Democrats dry now grieving mothers to push nasty smears about the cops the criminal justice system done control without any evidence at all, I'm bench shapiro. This is the venture bureau should attend to humanize people care about your feeling. Ok, so here we are, first off I just want to thank our new sponsor. We have a new sponsor, Harry's razor. So if you haven't tried harry's razors, I'm a person I hate shaving is one of those that was really cool when you are again and now turns out. It's really just to drag, have to go to the store and you have to have the attended, a kind of- the razors for you, because for some reason I think you're going either steal the razors or knife yourself or something harry's rays, sends you the razors directly to door and they send it to cheaper and fast. Then, you would get it from a convenient. store action With harry's this morning, with the last night, they have the there there shaving cream is terrific it last night not as morning which way stubble, but last night I should
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I really do want to get to first of all, this laney to subscribe a daily wire folks, because in just a few minutes we're going to be bringing on heather macdonald of the manhattan institute, author of the new book, the war on cops I think is most important book a year. While we talk with her in a little while we will also be going through Hillary Clinton's naacp speech speech, which is just awful just another example of the left panel on the basis of race, its gross, it's terrible issue there, but obviously start. The orange yesterday was the first day of the orange now before started. Currency note: the poles are close right now, the poles are basically daddy than donald trump six percent. Hillary Clinton has six percent. Everybody else wants to commit suicide there actually really around forty they're both around forty and one Percent of the population wants to commit suicide so that the point there is that donald trump need bit of a bum from this convention. In order to get a bit of a book, from this convention. He should come out, he should be unifying you should let people have their say and yell at him, and then he should be above the Fray right he's. Just then that's how he should play it he's one the nomination theirs he has to say to these people to be.
Like me, you don't like em all he has to do right now, just go out there and attack Hillary Clinton. I've been saying this for me: if all he does is go out there and attacks Hillary Clinton and if he does just talk about the news cycle and gets his surrogates to do the same. Put a lot of pressure on folks like me to vote for him just to stop Hillary, because indeed she is evil so so it should be doing right now very difficult on four. donald trump is the most easily distracted candidate in the world, and he just turns around. Every squirrel must be, must be traced every squirrel, so here opens the currency and he starts off before thing even start John case. It was the governor of ohio. Now, as you know, I am no john case examined every go time. John case, it talked in any debate this year. They all ninety seven debates this year. the tweet in all capital letters. Oh god! No! Please! God not! John casing! I am not john cases, but he is of a higher if you're gonna, try Unify the party. You don't go out there and rip on the sitting. Governor of this in which the convention is taking place right, it's happening in cleveland, that's it
Donald trump thing John came back, I want to be here the report what you wanted to be here, but honestly, even if this were for the Democrats, who should at least show up and say, allow and say how are you doing? He got beaten We very badly. He good of you know We have two should have left, probably. many weeks earlier than he did, but do you think he's been a sore loser? Well, I don't want to say that, but you know that it was a very contentious primary. She lost very very badly, and maybe, if I weren't his position, I wouldn't show up either. So there is they'll, so he attacks. So he attacks case it again. You know we. Why he's doing it? I understand way, doesn't like casing, but it's not exactly smell. Politics is campaigning upon man, afford the guy who's supposed to get him under control. He also attacked case again this before the convention starts. Basically,
the other, except for one or two slip to call the Republicans not coming to town the city's going to have most. Where is he coming and speaking, except for one or two the case a case that is the oh yeah and you know what he's making a big mistake. He's making a big mistake, he's looking at something: that's not going to happen he's already in his state he's embarrassing this day. Frankly, but most of the republicans who are coming mostly, the republicans who aren't coming are people who have been part of the past and the people who are part of the future of the republican party frankly are going to be here and participating in the program this sort of stuff is not useful among a trump treated said something similar. She said everybody who doesn't back. My dad is part of the past of the republican party, to which I responded, you're an actual registered democrat rights I mean with me, Let me talk about the future of the republican party. We. Firstly, tat by registering for the party you supposedly. The face of this is not smart, put everything else aside, whether you like trump, don't like trump put it aside,
structures are not smart for donald trump: are they are they wouldn't be? If an idle trumped you just get down to brass tacks, and people like trump are begging him to do this. There begging him to do this. Fellow talk shows like you hewett who keeps get out there saying you're trump gonna pivot people want him to do it. Ok, that's what the convention, the next thing that happens is theirs: chaos and the convention floor, so their bunch of people who say Ok, we want unbind. The delegates. Remember that failed in committee last in the last week over the weekend. Basically, now. They go to the floor, that of the of the convention, and people want able so they want to roll call voice vote on whether donald trump should should be elected. to the to the nomination based on the delegates being bound to their primaries basically and he's going to win this vote by the way he's going to win this vote. The delegates are going to vote to bind themselves because they don't want to be held accountable for throwing trump overboard at the last minute. So what happens they
excuse me to go out there and they want a roll call vote and instead the chair gets up. This guy gets up Spain is gambling and whenever voice now voice, voters means whoever shouts the loudest right. We're gonna, like a consensus in the room here, is what the we will look like without section. The previous question is order the question is on adoption of the resolution. All those in favour say all those proposed in the opinion of the chair, the eyes have it and the resolution is agreed to without objection. Emotional reconsider is lying upon the table. You can lose their minds because in that way we can hear anything right nationally, shut off. The moon is internal imbalances that don't I get from the state of west virginia for the purpose of offering a resolution cocaine and they just move right on the guy. Also away from the podium
so turns, into a ruckus right, because all the people who wanted the role covered. They they're going to lose anyway right. They are going to lose. The roll call vote, but the idea was, let's at least get the delegates on record supporting donald trump. What happened here that the convention knew it so embarrassing for some of these people to support donald trump out loud, they wanted to prevent the roll call vote, so they just had the voice vote and then they said the voice vote was good enough. Even though wasn't that was it, at the dmz, the democratic national convention and twenty twelve? They did. The same thing when They tried to take jerusalem out of the democratic platform where it wasn't in the democratic platform, Jerusalem, as the capital of Israel and theirs is about, and jerusalem lost and antonia of euro goes stood up there. He said no past, you know the jerusalem's back in It was sort of like that and he's just it's not more, is not smart, so so cancun chanel, you ran for. The governor of Virginia, very narrowly lost a tearing the caliph He was one of the delegates in and he just do. You literally takes his credentials. Any throws them on the ground they quite is currently undergoing a deserted you know is: is the next one.
Imagine you bruce wayne tagging you want to mention in this. So this is this was thing number do read something number two is the the ins just letting them again, what they should have done politically is that you should have allowed the roll call vote or they should have allowed another voice vote. So there's a roll call vote who cares? No, can remember any of that and from gets the nomination overwhelmingly, and he can say we one we're done right that all this is not difficult stuff, but it important that they ran through this thing without anybody objecting, because they don't wanna, make trump look bad. They don't want people embarrassed by having to vote in favour of these rules on for the convention. Ok, so that's Even before I get to the night right, then we get to the night, and donald trump does his entrance
Ok, then this entrance is spectacular. I mean I have to say it's it's it's classic trump. He promise, glitz glamour. You have to laugh, mean if you don't laugh during this convention cycle. You're gonna cry so here is donald trump. Opening, he introduces, is wife maloney. I what you'll get you in a second- and here was Here was donald trump entering the convention, Ok, Then there is the entrance right. The full
w w entrance just four for a little bit of a for a little bit of context. Here is what cycling. Darth vader enters a room. and also here is what it looks like when the undertaker enters a room, a w w e, because this is pretty much it the undertaker. Oh, my god, it may be undertaken meeting rooms- music, oh my god, so they say it's pretty spectacular. So it's done fine. You know. That's! That's trumps! Stick get it it's cheesy, that's the thing about from states. Does that yeah? It's big, but it so the cheeses tasted the world that we like everything, he does a super cheap again, none of them. it's a big deal here. Thing. None of these things are particularly huge deal just in
we'll get they start to become distractions or a hate. But distracting in aggregate. So it out done from this are then maloney gets up, and this has been the headline of the of the thing. The headline of the thing has been. The bologna spoke millennia who Again, it's weird to have your third wife speak for you to convention after she marries you when she's twenty, eight and you're fifty two and there's all sorts of weird issues where she is a trophy wife going on howard stern talking about having sex with you. Well, you still married somebody things we're against the le. We call me crazy, it's a little weird, but she speaks at the convention and she gives what is a pretty good speechwriter actually goes out there and she gives us that is very well received. That's you decent and then it comes out, that millennia and Michel, the bologna stole a couple. A paragraph from michelle shallow two thousand eight convention speech here is the the juxtaposition. Of of melania and michelle and I will raise with so many of the same values. From a young age, my parents,
impressed on me values. You work hard for what you wouldn't like that you work hard for what you wanting lie, that your word is bond, that you do what you say: you're gonna do that your word, these your balls and you do what you say and keep your promise, then you three people with dignity and respect, even if you don't know them and eat, if you don't agree with them, that your treat people with respect the set out to build lives, guided by these values and pass them on to the next generation, and we need to pass those lessons. To the many generations to follow because We want our children and all children in this nation to know
because we want our children in these nation to know will be only limit to the height of your achievements is the reach of your dreams and your willingness to work hard for them. That the only need to your achievements is this the strength of your dreams and your willingness to work for them. Okay, we can stop it there I mean. Obviously this is like it's plagiarism, but it's not her fault. She's got speech writer. She clearly didn't write this mean you think she's browsing old, michelle obama speeches come on she's out there spending twenty five hundred dollars on this dress. I mean that's, not happening, she didn't know so, but I made a huge deal out of this. They met here. Is it a big deal now? It really isn't a big deal. Ok, I'm a plagiarized of all patrick job. I plagiarize, neil kinnock, and he's now the vice president of the united states. Do I care that maloney s speech writer beat Michel speechwriter, not really don't make much difference to me at all. There are a couple of about it, however, that our mildly important, that are mildly important. The first is what I've been saying, which is that, when you can
This number of unforced errors at a certain point is a distraction from the new cycle. If this were a focus campaign donald forget about replacing trump even with trump. If this were a focused campaign, troubled me up five points right now, because hilary is so unpalatable. If you told me at this point in the race hilary be running at forty percent. As it was in their public and has to be up right. I mean they're only so many people in the united states. There is somebody percentage points you can hand out, but he not he's not up, and he should be up. I mean this is convention time, but If the problem is in the last week, Donald trump, this is the last week five days actually is not even a full week, the last five days alone, From past suitor campaign staffer for ten million dollars, liters vice presidential pick and attempted to walk back than tweeted. It out created a bit our trump pence logo that look like the letters were engaging in sexual congress had to walk back. A prospective convinced, speaker, including TIM Tito attacked case. It gives you saw unleashed his minions to shut down a roll call vote books bayonne Antonio Sabato, Jr, to speak and by the way, after spoke. He then went
on abc news and called obama, a muslim called lived. Fox news we'll get to this in a second during Pat smith's speech to pat smith was giving this view. We'll speech about her son and true calls into fox news and kicks her off the air because he's we need a fox news, I'm so intransigent convention he entered stage, obviously like a character from w w e or beyond, say sent his wife on stage with the speech plagiarized from michel and deployed has campaigned him to cover for the plagiarism. In other words, if you are voting for trump. If you are four trump. You have to root for him to do better than this right here. Route for him to do, but I think that's too much to ask that he does better than this and you have to rule His campaign to stopping idiotic, so chris christy responds to maloney approach, plagiarism charges and Chris she's. The saddest man in Cleveland I mean Chris Christie, legit They just sits there. Only small folding, chair strain if further the he's. These, the second saddest object in the arena after the folding chair upon which he set increase, Christy, He brushes this already did not a big deal at all. Could you make a case for play
tourism now not when ninety three percent of the speeches completely different than michelle obama's speech and they they express and come thoughts, and so listen almost. word for word, but the worst, some at the worst day of a convention is the first day because there was built up to it and everybody gets breathless, both the delegates in the media about something we're a controversy to talk about my think after tonight we won't be talking about this will move on to ever. Wherever comes up tonight. Yeah, whatever comes up tonight, will be an eagle. It's always the exciting question. What will happen to neglect smokers de brushes. It obviously and then he goes in china's donald trump choose PA manifold he's trumps campaign manager is also spinning it and he defends maloney. By attacking Hillary Clinton, was it not offer attacking Hillary Clinton but shouldn't right the speech before for curbing michelle obama speech in two thousand? Eight, whose fault is that is criminal. Caribbean of Michelle obama speech: these were common words and values, and she cares about her family,
it's like that, I mean she was speaking in front of thirty five million people last night. She knew that to think that she would be cribbing Michelle obama's words. This is crazy. I made it so this is once again an example of when a woman threatens Hillary Clinton, how she would try, seeks out to demeanor and and take her down, it's not going to work. All I'm saying is this: is this is one of the big problems? Okay, there are so many legit critiques of Hillary Clinton when you paper those over with critiques that don't make any sense? You end up just throwing the whole kitten caboodle out. ranger was worrying about worry about the fact that hilary is legitimately a criminal he's, throwing at her that she's attacking maloney on fairly plagiarism like this is so stupid at such a distraction in such a way, the time you I have to love the show and the the schadenfreude of of Corey Lewandowski sitting there on cnn and ripping into Paul manafort, though record Lewandowski is the old campaign manager, Paul Manafort, the new campaign manager and corey Lewandowski is on cnn, saying: manafort should be fired.
Plagiarism in bologna speech really kind of amusing, Thank you, mrs troops. Smart articulate smarter check your woman own thought to her own thoughts and I think it was mistaken. Staff level and staff should be held accountable I hereby manifold. Coming from korea Lewandowski, the man who was in fired four months after grabbing rapporteur by the arm and yanking her backward who was finally fired quietly, but is still being paid by the term care. In other words, all of this is is bizarre, but just for a final laugh- and this is an end- maloney s expense shouldn't right. The speech by this going around the internet in his money in it that is maloney. I accidentally Rick rolled the audience I pointed out by the way that the trumpets has done this before the trump uses. This line a lot and so not maloney s fault. Obviously, a sort of your for her. But but here is here's maloney, a trump rick rolling the audience He will never ever give up and most importantly
he will never ever let you down so here is my big problem with all of this. Okay, there was real stuff going on on the stage yesterday, real things happening on the stage yesterday, Rudy giuliani spoke yesterday and regionally giuliani get a barn burner of his speech about the cops like a really good speech about the cops, a good case to be made. The rudy giuliani should have been the vp pick for donald I'm here since their two peas and apply the book and rational yorkers, and this is their their stick. This is their routine. So here is really giuliani in this got completely overlooked by the media rights gone all we're talking about his maloney, a trumpet plagiarism and donald trump. We? U w, we entrance giuliani watch giuliani and tell me this should not have been the theme of the night and we say thank you
The cleveland police department for protecting off the we know what we know the risk you're taking and we say thank you to every police officer and law enforcement agent, who is out tonight protecting us black white chino of every race, every color, every creed, every sexual orientation. When they try to save your alive, they don't ask if you're, black or white, the we also read through the we reach out our arms with understanding and compassion
to those who have lost loved ones. Because of police shootings some justified some unjustified. Those that are unjustified, must be punished. Those that are justified. We must apologise to giuliani. Look, this is great stuff. How is this not a hatch, I'm dramatic american stop it is this is this is this is What should have been the headline last night right come on. This should have been the headline: we've got police shootings happening anti cop. massacre is taking place in this country and the headlines maloney trumps plagiarism. Can I I understand that the media are corrupt, understand the media are looking for an excuse not to talk about the issues. but that's not gonna change dont give them the excuse. This is why discipline in politics is important. Folks, we come about the media all day long. I do it myself, but at a certain point, have to say to yourself at a certain point: We have to save yourself be disciplined.
stick to message in there was so much good stuff for the convention last night, real good stuff at the convention sheriff David Clark. but glass needed the same thing, great speeches sheriff data clark lucky ladies and gentlemen, I would like to make something very clear. Lives matter mentioned in the report on this powerful black man, by the way whose it sheriff walkie. Please cop just got shot apparently,
Is speaking the truth about the cops is that the headline this morning from the media? Of course that's not the headline headline is Melania trump said the same thing that Michelle obama said in a speech that nobody cares about, because who can honestly? Who cares what the wives of candidates have to say or the husbands? It's silly. It's just silly This is why when, when we say that the Donald trump needs to get his poop together, he really need to get it together I mean this is not. This is not a game anymore. If you want to win, you know, I'm not even a trump backer, but if you want to win, if you think matters the donald trump utility Clinton, you should be rooting for donald trump to stop making these kinds of mistakes, because it's just it's just foolish. It's just foolish Then it's a tall distractions, how one more example, Pat Psmith right, looks into hilary last night. Yours, what pat smith had to say this is again great stuff should have been the headline we lost. Four brave americans who made the ultimate sacrifice. for the time through the jones deserve, and they marry people love the truth for this laws for
all of this grief for all citizens, the tragic in Benghazi has wrought upon america. I blame Hillary Clinton, the Hillary Clinton personally for the death of my son personally democrats were complaining about. It will get to the complaints in a little while, but this very fast stuff? They should have been in prime time. They should win the stuff everybody's watching right. This is the stuff that resonated. People mother standing there saying her son is dead because Hillary Clinton didn't do her job and then she was lied to the mother was wide to rachel. be the headline here's what is being shown on fox at the same time, at the same time, tat smith was doing this, What is being shown on fox is nineteen.
And she's been great wife and I'm gonna give her an introduction and she'll go up, and I think gotta do really well alright. Look, we know how busy you are tonight and we can't thank you enough for taking the time to talk to millions of people watching you right now and we're going to take quick break and then we'll come back to the convention floor as a factor continues recovering republican convention in cleveland. In other words, he calls into O'Reilly factor. At the same time, pat smith is speaking taking viewers away from one to the other. So all of this is just is just not smart. Ok, so putting us on the program. Right now is heather. heather is from Manhattan institute. Just For city journal and she's the odds I have new book called the war on cops most important book of the year. I said this months ago, when I first saw it coming to my day long before his release. I was ahead of the curve on this one other thing so much for joining us. Thank you so much. I appreciate the kind words you absolutely so I want to start off by asking are indeed you see any
via Hillary Clinton speech at the end of a lay cp. Yesterday I read any of her speech in the under way. Cp yesterday, that's my unhappiness. I did read it and it's absolutely appalling and it's a dangerous porter. For the country, when you say it's dangerous: how much of the the current anti cop violence do you attribute to rhetoric people like president obama, Hillary Clinton and black lives matter and home you. Just fielded did sort of anti cop sentiment is grown into. There's. There's this debate going on now between the level violence in the level of rhetoric. Did you correlate them absolutely there's, no difference whatsoever that the two things you mentioned that brought the same thing. What the assassinations in dallas and bad rouge are just more extreme
examples of what cops are experiencing an inner city areas across the country on a daily basis, been a chicago officer, told me about six weeks ago, when I was not chicago to look at the amazing lay terrifying crime spike there are experiencing, he said, he's, never experience such hatred in his nineteen years on the job he said it's the job is basically on doable. Now, cops can't get out of their car without being surrounded by hostile, jeering crowds, and when you have people being told relentlessly by present, no obama by Hillary Clinton by the media by the activists that racist cops are on a homicidal vendetta against blacks. We should not be surprised when people take up arms against what is alleged to be there a K, K, oppressors, heather one and now I want to talk a little bit about what are the facts of of policing and then orator.
About the rhetoric exit seems like some of the democratic rhetoric. Some left rhetoric is now seeking. to the right people like Marco rubio, new gingrich, suggesting that why people just can't understand the black experience with regard to cops, you have the donald trump and said something similar on the air last week. Let's let let's talk a little bit about the facts and then we'll get to why this seems to becoming such a popular issue and why it's politically palatable. So there's a study that came out last week and I've been corresponding on this. The this new study from professor at harvard university who finds that the the police shootings are actually biased against white blood. Waiter are twenty percent more likely to be shot and black, but he also makes the case that low level uses of force are more likely to happen to black people, and then he suggests. This is why blacks hate the cops because of low level uses of force being used. innocent black people. What do you make of that claim? Well, first of all, let's note that he's changing the subject, and so is all the media they have quickly suppressed, is finding that blacks are actually twenty four percent less
likely to be shocked by the police than whites and are moving on to the second part of his study, which is that actually low level uses of force are higher against blacks. Would he completely, I think, does not take into account enough his levels of resistance. He bases his findings on stop question and frisk forms that police in new york city fill out when they make a pedestrian stop. There is no way that those forms can account in sufficient detail to be able to make judgments about the level of resistance that blacks and whites offer and again, when, when blacks are getting the message every day that they are oppressed by racist cops, it's not surprising that they are resisting arrest more and that's certainly what I'm hearing from officers across the country who say you know
I used to be able to put handcuffs on somebody without being fought or surrounded by hostile during crowds. Now everybody wants to fight them. Ok, so one of the things that the republicans have done as the new republican platform could you not so called criminal justice reforms, whereas mentioning before this kind of cross of the isle. With regard to the idea that the criminal justice system is biased, racist or or or incredibly oppressive, what do you make of the car criminal justice reform. We I understand what the left is doing, left his race baiting for political gain, but why the right starting to embrace the notion of of criminal justice reform as though there some sort of me
incarceration of innocence, that's going on all over the country, well, first ban. If I can just rebut the premises on which its base before we get to the motives behind it. I, it is simply not the case that the over representation of blacks in prison is due to criminal justice, racism and, and let us also be clear that the whole push for criminal justice, so called reform is due to one fact only the over representation of blacks and prison. At that
were not the case. Nobody would be carrying at all. So this is all about race and criminologists spent decades trying to prove that that over representation of blacks and prison is due to buy us on the part of officers, prosecutors or judges, and they always come up short. The most liberal of criminologists, we can even say left wing, have been forced to conclude that the presence of blacks is do, unfortunately to their very high rates of violent crime. Blacks, for instance, commit homicide at eight times, rate of whites in hispanics combined and if you take a hispanics out of that equation, you get a homicide differential of about eleven to twelve times the arrests match the description of of of criminal offenders and felons given by victims. So it's not
as if police are somehow ignoring all those white drive by shootings in favor of blacks. They are going where the victims and witnesses to crime are telling them. Crime is happening and again making arrests can ruin with where who, who is being victimized, who the perpetrators are as to why this is happening. I just think that the narratives taken on such power and republicans simply don't have the guts to stand up and have this difficult conversation, we ve been talking about phantom police racism for the last twenty years, been in order not to talk about a far more difficult and uncomfortable truth, which is black crime and report. Applicants are no more willing to go there. It turns out than Democrats show
moving forward. Do you see any hope for the situation at all, because the the way it looks to me is it looks like if I am number one, I think can be very difficult to record any cops at all in this environment. Second of all, if you're a cop, why not just pull out of of cities of the areas that are most high crime and basically you end up with the situation. During the rodney king riots and allay where it we're gerald gauge, basically pulled the cops out of south central elway credit. cording around that area, the city, the riot If the killings there were beatings, there were lootings that were burnings and then everybody said well. The cops are racist and he said well yeah, but if we go in there, you call us racist Did you see that to me it looks like the people having to pay the most for all of us are, of course lack. But who are living in areas that the cops simply won't go anymore. Will then you're absolutely right. We are seeing a slow motion, rod no king riot situation every day and in our cities what I've called the ferguson effect, which is the twin phenomenon of officers, backing off of proactive policing and interest,
the areas and the resulting rise in crime. Already last year, in the fifty six largest cities, we saw a seventeen per cent. Homicide increased seventeen, that's nearly unprecedented, but if you look at cities with large black populations, you get an increase anywhere from fifty four percent increase in homicides in Washington dc to ninety percent in cleveland. This is only going to get worse. The assassinations are going to make it worse, but the rhetoric is what's really driving this and, as you say, recruiting has basically come to a dead halt. Nobody. Why would anybody wanna be a police officer today, when the first day you stand it step into the job? It's assume that you're, a racist and your surrounded by people interfering with your lawful authority It's called the war on cops and you definitely should go, buy it as a national best seller. Obviously, it's soaring up the charts as number two on the new york times list. This way guards are very high in the new york times list and it's
it should be it's it's! It's a it's a very important book, heather macdonald from Manhattan institute thanks! So much for joining the program really appreciate it. I appreciate it so much man. Thank you! Absolutely! Okay! So, with that sad and with that background, Hillary Clinton spoken and ablaze yesterday and the rest Say this for the end of the show is number one, because I wanted to interview heather first, but second of all, because the fact is, heather heather mcdonald's points are completely ignored, completely ignored by Hillary Clinton, which seek they that they're they're fine, not just seek, they are fine. With I was getting shots along it forwards. The narrative Hillary Clinton spoke at the end of lacy p. Yesterday she gave a speech that basically mirrored president obama's disgusting speech at the dallas police memorial weak and a half ago here was Clinton at the naacp yesterday. as the president has sad indeed, as he exemplifies we ve come along way. But you know- and I know.
we have so much further to go. We were cruelly reminded of that with the recent deaths of all, lange and for castillo two more black men killed and Police incidents this time in louisiana and minnesota. Ok, the fact that you Lumping together again, alton sterling and falander castille is disgusting, should lumping them together with the cops shooting, just insane suggesting there's racism. There shows no evidence of racism in either of those cases in one the shooter was hispanic in minnesota. In the other case, it looks like by all available evidence, the guy probably grabbed for his gun and the reason I say that is because the officers are warning him not to grab for his gun and then he, something they shoot him. So you know about any other evidence. You would have to basically rely on the cops word and he did have an illegal done in his pocket. Doesn't matter the Hillary Clinton. The narrative is all the matters we have to cut off them
I ve got plenty more than you are counting on today. So congratulations to you, but if you want to watch the rest go to daily wire dot com, eight bucks a month will get you in. That also allows you to submit to the mailbag this means that I will answer your questions. You personally you're very special and as long as you're part of the daily wire crowd so go to daily wired. I come to subscribe right, now or you can listen on sound cloud or itunes later download the rest of the show. alright, the new okay yeah, so Hillary Clinton speaks at the end of a lazy, p and first she starts off by once again mirroring this idiocy that falander steel and often sterling are basically the same. as as these cops being killed and cheese, we reiterate snatchers Hillary Clinton. Doing more of that retain this madness has to stop.
Watching the news from ban ruse yesterday, my broke, not As for those officers and. Their grieving families, but for all All of us. Ok, so for all of us did bring progress, not just for the officers and then she goes on in talks about falander castille and out instead again because this is the routine that she does range it's out all of this all this stuff, to claim that the police are racist. So what does she can do about it. What are you gonna do about it? Well, she's gonna restrict guns she's going to yell at the police no time in the speech, does she talk about single motherhood and how it destroys inner city communities, because there are no fathers to keep kids in line. At no point does she discuss the gang culture that has destroyed inner city communities all over the united states? At no point, does she discuss the nasty
feelings that so many black americans have about the costs that not driven by Jim crow. The word I'm up, kids or younger nigh and by ten years right when you The high crime population you're talking about generally young males wall, raises between eight seventeen and twenty five black community. Those people are not coming from Jim crow america, their younger than I am right. There born the nineties, many of them and so cures. it is doing the same routine and it's just its devastating it really it's devastating. None of it is helpful. All it really is is just more of the same because she feels like she can win black votes if she if she continues to push this forward the deaths of John, and Four orlando draw how urgently we need to make reforms to policing and criminal justice their personnel. We can choose no elton in philander. Raymond. Should I come on she so mechanical that she can pronounce their names and then she's
as he drives need for criminal justice reform again, not one shred of evidence, not one that those two guys we're not for racial reasons, not one, but that wasn't the end of it. I mean she would go on to talk about pushing more government spending in backing bad loans thing. This is clip nine clip twenty one for us, this is where she talked how the real solution here is that we need to give for loans subsidized by the government, black folks. That's why my plan, clothes steps more african american families by a home, which has always been one of the surest way to build wealth and security for a family so she wants to go back to the era of subsidized hormones. I seem to remember that ended in a massive economic collapse when it turned out If you give subsidize home loans to people can afford them, go bankrupt, then the money has gone refugees pretty miss out. There is, though, there's some systemic races and it's gonna be cured by bad loans, and then she gets to the legal in part. The truly galling power comes at the end of the speech, so she said
Let lecturing white americans and what we can do better, which is just she's dead, From a black audience, latch lecturing why people, which is just that that is the definition, pandering here, celery doing it tired physic and emotionally he wrote. in uniform. I get nasty hateful looks. And out of uniform, they consider me a threat. He went on. these are trying times please don't let hate infect your heart. I'm working in these streets so and protesters, officers, friends, family or whoever. If you see me montreal, said and need a hug.
I want to say a prayer. I got you. That you talking about talking about their. She did another sexual talk about white privilege, ritual playing. One second cause it's truly. but this is even more. Galling misses the height of going these worship. Talking about montreal jackson was one of the car Just murdered. Batten rose inciting montreal jackson to talk about how he would support herds, The montreal jackson was a cop was posting about why people have bad perceptions of the police and should stop it and there she is using his memory as a prop to club cops, just vile, vile stuff. And then just a complete her while she is, she went off on white privileges, be a clip twenty one. we white americans need to do a better job. of listening when african americans talk the scene and unseen barriers you face every day,
We need to recognise our privilege and this humility. Rather than assume that our experiences are everyone's experiences. We all need to try as best we can do walk in one another shoes. to imagine what it would be like sit hours on our daughter down and have the talk about her carefully: they need to act around police because the slightest wrong move could get them hurt or and killed figures but they're so she's a number one as I've said about why privilege, white privilege is crap, get a fact is privilege is what exists in law? We're all born
privileges. Of course, as I've said before, some of us are born poor some are born rich. Some of us are born in certain circumstances that are less beneficial than other circumstances. I was born into a solid two parent family. I would like everyone to have a solid two parent family heterosexual family, preferably because men people need a a a a father. And mother, but we're all In different circumstances, do you suggest there is a systemic white privilege? That means the cops shoe black people, for no reason is not its not statistically true He pushes that out there and then said That is true, and it really is just it's. It's it's disgusting and she earns points from the left for apologizing. Basically, on behalf of white people but she get to apologise on behalf of anybody, but herself you don't get to do that in this life you can get to apologize for anything except for the things you actually did last I checked I didn't. I and mystery to black eyed enjoining wronged, a black person, so I'm not To apologize for doing things that I didn't do and in fact all call out why people who do things that are banned, a black people and I'll call out black people do.
Things that are bound to white people. It turns out decency. Is the standard not color decency? Ok, without it's time for thing I like and then a couple of quick things. I don't so we've been doing the worst movie villains of all time. The scariest movie villains of all time, there's a movie that not a lot of people remember or saw it's called rob with Liam Neeson. The character- that's me Memorable, though, is tim, roth TIM roth plays this kind of a feminist, horrifying dandy, who happens to be an absolute sociopath, and this is a scene where just the lange is married to to we need in this film and I and this this and a dandy shows up at her house. Either burning. The village has robberies, started: rebellion against the local governor and inheres, just a piece of that's it not long ago he believes there waiting for you to fool the new look The
yeah sheds hilda stop after may, and he brew I mean he's in the whole movie. He just soup feminine and there's a there's a sword, fight where this has one of the best sword fighter in all the movies. The very the concluding sword fight is just fantastic because it's tim roth fighting with basically a rapier and in Louise and fight with broadsword. It's it's it's. A very good movies vary greatly, but it's a very good movie. Ok are a timeframe things that I hate. So the media are terrible, as we already know after pat smith gave this, about how Hillary Clinton lied to her and into anything to defend her son in Benghazi. The meat lost its its poop, I mean they went. They went crazy, so matthews of an epidemic stay here. He decided that it was time to scold the mother of the Benghazi victim harry was doing that
Why? I have to say I'm overwhelmed, because I thought that, because the Charles remarks were fabulous and it's from a real warrior, I saw the movie it's an amazing story about a guy who survived and at one point really was very generous to saving the lives of some people potentially on the other side, and it ended up causing the danger he faced. of course you know Bob dole. He was shot and then really maine for life. If you really understand his injuries are trying to save the life of someone else on the battlefield in monte cassino, I mean these are true wonderful stories and then to pile on to that. This gross accusation that somehow Hillary Clinton had anything to do with the death of Chris Stevens advisory. She had nothing to do with it, even if all the arguments about the pr afterwards, as jean pointed out, are true worst case scenario. She didn't give a straight story afterwards that had nothing to do with the death of
great ambassador over there. I don't understand why the republicans would choose to put this on prime time television when they have such wonderful stories of american heroism. This
if the american people, I think it was wrong. I don't care what that woman up there. The mother has felt her. Emotions are her own, but for the country and choosing a leader, it's wrong to have someone to can up there and tell a lie about Hillary Clinton is not true. It's logically not true. It's manifestly not true. She had anything to do in that case, even if all the arguments about what she said afterwards or susan rice said afterwards on meet, the press are true, and anybody who thinks about it for a second knows: it's not true that driving a gap here in the maya god cleveland that stinky plays that coma or they share that rely on better come out of here. They are the little nathan usual because I really did it up this morning I got three heads like homer simpson. They come over my forehead, and that means I'm beautiful, but now I'm here and I'm talking about what happened in Benghazi is not true. It's manifestly not true. It's clearly not true. It's evidentiary, really, not true. Nothing is true. These aids drew that just because there are public and hacks republican hacks. Ok, so here's the deal,
It is true that Hillary Clinton, inter state department, rejected literally dozens of requests for additional security in Benghazi. They did so because they didn't want people to catch on the fact that Hillary Clinton war was a complete disaster. That is true also Lectures I want to pay We too shall on television from the same people who thought it was wonderful when they brought out the jersey girls in two thousand for to suggest the george w bush was responsible for nine eleven aid under the that game you guys hundred Cindy she had for years before she turned on you when she was coming the george w Bush got her kids killed in iraq for a why her son killed it. for a lie, but it's One thing is what Democrats do so? This is problem the Democrats are always can attack, but let's make them attack. Let's make them attack pet psmith. Let's make them attack the mothers of victims. Let's make them do that Matt lauer did, same thing? He says that all the speakers His tone down the rhetoric is just too much it's just too much format, lauer and his delicate sensibilities prince from what it's in the country. In the last couple of weeks, people are on edge
tansy add to that. The passion that comes with political debate, and there are people who are truly afraid that thing could boil over here include. Would you be willing to make a pledge to see to everyone involved in this convention and say: please toned down the rhetoric. So can you say to the people who are going to take to that podium this week? No personal acts. No vitriol keep it. Civil ok We need to have you here to make a similar plead Hillary Clinton. the woman who goes on national tv and says Republicans our enemies and donald trump, Basically, she said yesterday he's the worst and ever to run for president now, which is historically ignorant I mean, there's was a guy named John w Davis. Nineteen. Twenty four who ran on I am against anti lynching legislation, so no, no, but this this is how the media act, and this is why it so important you dont have to play in that. Game- and this is this- is why I really wish that donald trump ITALY
invite an alternative by doing the right thing, we'll see how this convention unfolds- maybe it'll get better. Maybe Chris Christie's right, maybe the first day is always the worst, and now it improves yeah. We can hope for that. Because, at the very least, we should hope for an elevation of the level of this campaign. I know it's a lot to hope for so we'll bring you all the updates tomorrow and I and again subscribe to daily wire dot com. You can be part of the mailbag, I'm Ben shapiro. This is the mail. This is the Ben shapiro show.
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