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then, twenty one years since nine eleven
seems like all of the lessons of nine eleven have been forgotten, and this is not a rarity in human history. Obviously,
distance between, for example, world war, one in world war, two was about twenty one years and nineteen eighteen worth more to begin. Nineteen, thirty nine, and so these
he's a generation is enough time for people to forget all of the key lessons that they learn from life chain
international events and twenty one years, especially in the modern age. An extraordinary long time when it feels like every new cycle is about five and a half minutes long. But for those of us,
were defined by nine eleven for those of us who actually lived through nine eleven for those who remember the plains,
smashing into the towers. It was supposed to be a redefined moment for the united states was supposed to refocus on some important lessons and that's why
really important on nine. Eleven, actually remember the footage of it, because
remember where you were one nine eleven happen. If you don't remember how stunning it was to watch not one but two
passenger airliners fly directly into the world trade centres and collapse. The two most populous tale
in new york city, then
It really did not define you in the same way as it did for for other people watched. It happened
What truly amazing is that a huge percentage of people who actually watched this happen in real time on national television or in person, and god forbid in your city, and that that all those people
a lot of them are forgotten lessons of nine eleven because, as it turns out, politics is not stable
lessons that you learn how to be relaunched over and over again. So I want to go
some lessons, nine, eleven and and and demonstrate how we seem to have forgotten nearly all of them by the year. Two
and twenty two, which is a depressing thought, because what it really does suggested that we are inviting more aggression from our enemies
is eight forty six in the morning when the first plane crashed into the world,
trade center. Here's what that sounded and looked like a fire fighter, and you can see them.
ages flying regulated ceremony was it was
We must stunning thing, I think anyone
I've never seen, and they
a few minutes later. Obviously, second play
since the second world trade center. It's our only losers.
Horrific and in shock is something animal horror movie obvious.
The reason I shall this is important to be reminded of what our enemies did. Horses,
the towers collapsing,
Frightening scenes in all of american history is easy to forget this, which is made
in setting it was unforgettable,
this debate- and this is not even the most brutal footage, obviously in terrorist collapsing, nearly
three thousand americans dead is horrific.
Stuff. Obviously we cut out, we didn't would include something even more.
little footage of people weepings their deaths from
in a story of the world trade center is, is unbelievable
many unbelievable was the words used. Conniving everybody in the nation was in a state of absolute shock over it, and this was supposed to choose
how americans thought about themselves because after all, there is
feeling that it set in after the end of the cold war that basically all conflict was done,
national conflict is over that the world was safe, bet
International diplomacy was going to rule
whose from here on, in that violence against americans was absolutely on things
and then nine eleven happened at a really
taught us a bunch of lessons that we're supposed to remember.
and so now went about five of those lessons right now and we seem to
Daniel, nearly all of them first
the smaller than you think things that have
and far away in lands that we do not know. Those things impact united states economically
in terms of military power in terms of safety,
americans, these things, really affect us
after nine eleven, the added after the end of the cold war, the idea was okay. What we can sort retrench go back to
certain level of isolationism.
we cut our military spending. We start treating terrorism as law enforcement problem, rather than as an international policy problem. We suggested that if the united states
drew within its own boundaries that the global police itself and that's not the way the world works, and that is a lesson that we learned on nine. Eleven is the date
world in a very small place, and so, when you hear politicians on both sides of the isle doing ended
the traditional strained american foreign policy. Thinking that says, that's right did that basically says if you
the states withdraws inside of its borders and doesn't get itself involved in world politics, then we'll be safe. Nine eleven was ringing rebuttal of that, because it's pretty much what bill Clinton had tried to do during the ninety nineties. So much,
so the one apparent
american military hundred, osama bin laden and its crosshairs. It was essentially called offering the Clinton administration. The second lesson was: the weakness,
mostly perceived weakness in any form economic military ideological invites aggression. If you read
manifesto of osama bin laden after nine eleven. His manifesto was
was all talk about, the united states was basically a paper tiger had made a bunch of promises had not fill those promises. The united states run from conflict after the united states withdrew from somalia after the down incident after the united states did
essentially nothing after the Al Qaeda bombings of our embassies in kenya and tanzania effort?
they did nothing in the aftermath of the bombing of the us call by Al Qaeda the impact
taken away by I'm in london. A lot other peoples that the united states to paper tiger and that employ
then again was driven by the fact that we had to cut our military spending that ideologically we're talking a lot about how
global liberalism was naturally going to take precedence. Who is going to take before that
wasn't in oppositional world any more than we had reached the end of history and the infusion of liberal
what kind of ideals was going to just be natural throughout the world and nine eleven,
rejected. All of that, the idea was, if you actually want to protect america. You're gonna have
be strong, militarily and strong, ideologically you're going to have to have the wherewithal and the ideological strength to withstand things like long term, commitments which brings us to the
point here which the cultural institutions can be imposed, except with extraordinary levels of investment in time.
We mostly learned in the aftermath of nine eleven when we invaded.
ghana stand in Iraq and there the lesson
Ok, well, you're gonna! Do it you're gonna have to actually do it or you can go any
but a dictator in there that dictator can clean up some of the mess eventually general turn against. You'll have have
That is one way to do american foreign policy in traditionally speaking. That is the way that most regimes across the world have done their foreign policy, the british empire, for example, either,
directly administered its colonies or it found so friendly dictators to administer
its colonies in them when those dictators what role they killed them. Replace them and that that that is
into the british empire. That was true of virtually every empire. It's been true,
since ancient times. This is how you controller I'd, go back to the roman empire. That is how they control their empires. That is one way of doing it. The other way of doing it is the sort of idealistic way that the so called neo con way of doing
when policy, which is we're, gonna go into Afghanistan and we're going to Iraq and naturally, democracy will take root in bloom, because there is a
desire for a human freedom and human heart, and not just human freedom.
freedom at the west likes individualistic authentic, authentic human freedom serve animistic. Human freedom
this sort of freedom, one the things that matter most in your life are how much property you can
or what kind of sex life you can have, the things that the
just hold very, very dear in terms
did your rights and from relax
Europe does not have a view: freedom, both back
unfortunately, but those
sort of institutions don't use magically take root. You actually have to sit there for, in the case of japan generations you to sit there
in the case of south korea for generations, and you have to be willing
actually expend the money and keep the soldiers over there. And that was a lesson of afghanistan. Iraq was that if you seem half
way about this thing. If the ideas one transform these countries into footprints for liberal democracy in europe,
about somebody most backward regions of the world. Here, you're talking about places with barbaric tribalism as the governing philosophy for for the four entire swathes,
of these countries is hundreds. Our new creations, by the way I'm in afghanistan is not was never a unified polity. Iraq was not a unified polity for extraordinary period of time. People too-
forget that the nations of the middle east
we're not time at Israel. Here they left like style, Israel's establish nineteen, forty, seven, nineteen, forty to its new india and pakistan, or not
damage until nineteen forty, seven nineteen, forty two separate polities separation
in pakistan, wasn't until nineteen forty eight.
The idea of a saudi arabian government and it didn't exist,
In southern eighty twenties, so these are
in terms of human history, relatively new policies, in fact, most nations seemed to be somewhat new.
The nation of ITALY, for example. The idea of italy as a unified country is something that crops up in the nineteenth century. So I think that we forget sort of historical context for how most people lived for most of the time, which was in his tribal small autonomous regions,
if you're going to implant the idea of sort national government that presides and democratic fashion, as a long term thing, you have to do
was didn't. Take that seriously. It thought it had taken it seriously, but his new ferguson pointed out in his book american clodagh glasses,
now the the idea of american empire. He said that he was in
the one rock. But he said he didn't think the american people would have the stomach to actually do the thing. That was the third lesson. The fourth lesson was that you
a lot in common with your fellow americans. More than you think you do a lot.
more than you do with your enemies, and this is some
The american people, as we will see in a second, seem to have forgotten
ten, to talk alone, the united states, about the gaps between florida in new york between texas in california and those guys.
Absolutely, as these are serious ideological gaps
captain beginning wider and united states, whatever those gaps are
Those gaps are not nearly as wide as the gap between say, texas, in afghanistan or california, and afghanistan
nine. Eleven was reminder that,
the enemies of the american people. Do not think, like americans, that whatever disagreements we have with each other in the last and they are very serious and they have real consequences, the gaps between
the disagreements in the west and disagreements between people in the west and places like afghanistan or iraq,
or iran. These are disagreements in kind or does not disappear.
degree of these differences in kind over time. It may be that the disagreement
I've come to resemble the sword fry ballistic differences that we see elsewhere, but at least
eleven people in taxes
look at what is happening in new york and things themselves. As a foreign country. I care, if not themselves,
My fellow americans who are dying in those towers
which is why on mass upswing in a number of
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please do not think like we do we
think that when we are spreading liberal democracy or economic progress that our enemies are can be happy that when we bring,
additional material benefit.
People around the world- that is something we are going to appreciate.
And what we learned on nine eleven is: that's, that's not actually the case, our enemies. Don't think like we do, armies don't have the same,
priorities that we do and when you read, for example, there there's this weird thing that has happened where
read osama bin laden's actual.
faster and on nine eleven. He talks in terms that
appeal to some religious conservatives and some terms that definitely appeal to the to the left and he
start by saying why nine eleven happened well, because Israel is bad and because the less funds, Israel, which sounds very much like a left wing talking point- sounds like Noam Chomsky and then, when it comes to the
message policy. He says why do we hey you guys? We
That's because your sexual libertinism, so out of people on the so sohkon right, were like ok. Well here
It wasn't what, but he doesn't agree with any of you on any of us. In his
sk worldview is replacement of all of the west with Islam. But surely-
hard core version of his long. He says it is clearly in the manifesto, but was amazing to watch in the aftermath of nine eleven. Is that people actually understood this regardless if they agree
with osama bin laden about Israel, regardless
whether they agreed with osama bin laden about a gay marriage. Osama bin Laden was preaching a form of life that was
radically opposed to the generalised world view of the west and other things
breakin broken down here in the west and that's real problem. Okay, so fast for twenty one years been a folder
aeration, and we ve learned these lessons. We thought right, the world's very small place. You can't just surrender yet you can't run away from its weakness.
Military ideological invites aggression in Portugal
the appearance. Weakness invites aggression. You have
more in common with your fellow americans than you do with enemies of the united states culture.
Institutions cannot be imposed except extraordinary levels of investment in time and your enemies do not think, like. You do
and all these were lessons of nine eleven- we seem to have forgotten nearly all of them. So, for example, Joe Biden
there's something particular galling about Joe Biden. He ate the present.
it states gave unaddressed meets every year. We have the ceremonies commemorating nine eleven, but
and the person who is speaking apparently does not remember,
any of the lessons of nine eleven and, in fact, has affected policy that make another nine eleven significantly more possible. When he speaks of ring
Hallo here was Joe Biden on nine eleven yesterday, twenty one years ago,
twenty one years and we still kept our promise never to forget will keep the memory of all those precious lives stolen from from us two thousand
Nine hundred and seventy seven at ground zero in new york and Shanksville. My my my wife is speaking now in pennsylvania hundred and eighty four of them here at the pentagon, and I know for all those you've lost someone twenty one years as both a lifetime.
And no time at all, then when he says this sort of stuff, I take it a lot more seriously. If I had not presided over giving the country of afghanistan back to me very people,
presided over nine eleven, including Al Qaeda,
in daimyo. Talk about a full scale, forgetting of nine eleven about
we then for a war legitimately directed against
people who attacked the united states and murdered nearly three thousand americans and jobs
just gave the country back to them there.
and over the weekend, which black hawk helicopter went down in afghanistan in american black hawk helicopter in any taliban training exercise
the taliban took over of arbitrary owl when we left and lest we forget,
it was only about a year ago,
their Joe Biden was trying to triumphantly champion his pull out from Afghanistan well be pull out from Afghanistan was a full scale. Disaster area. People
attempting to jump on we'll wells to escape the taliban.
had been rushing into the city's turbines decision to withdraw all air support from Afghanistan
draw all military advisers from Afghanistan. That was Joe.
This decision suffer less
the world's a very small place,
and when you do this sort of thing, it has real spillover ramifications and had immediate ramifications in Afghanistan, where thirteen american service members were immediately murder, but it's not you
I don't run away from the world. A very
this must remain alive in the world's a very small place, forgotten
so by nearly immediately
weakness in any form invites aggression. Well,
it wasn't long between the pull out from Afghanistan and
Weapons invasion of ukraine he was,
obviously in the belief that the united states was not going to defend its allies. After all, we had port of billions
and of billions of dollars,
not hundreds of billions of dollars into afghanistan, and then we just decide
We're gonna pull out
and I made them, the latest american ally for us essentially abandon weakness, breeds aggression. Joe Biden apparently doesn't see that doesn't care about it
What wasn't something that mainly cells to be forgotten about it? It doesn't matter, we ve gone back to a time before nine, eleven and so unfortunately
people forget lessons of life. They tend to have to relearned those the hardway. Meanwhile, if people like
Military above are tweeting out about it,
eleven point today
remember that two thousand nine her ninety six people were killed on nine eleven and all those who lost their lives while serving our country in the forever wars that followed.
and this is the language of the Democrats. Ok
when privilege eyeball tweets that number one
This is the second straight year where she said two thousand on her. Ninety six, what you will remember as the two thousand and four and seventy seven americans were killed at nineteen hijackers die,
committing suicide while terms innumerable americans this second straight yeah she's, included the hijackers in the number of dead from nine.
in all assumed that's unintentional and then I'll she's doing wikipedia?
of people who died nine eleven? But that is something that you should absolutely correct, but it's the broader point that she's making that is too
I think she says the nine eleven is when remember people who died in the forever wars. These quote the discworld useless wars. What's easy to say was one of the great ironies of of history. When you read enough, history is no one ever gets credit for the prevention. You only get credit for the cure
mean by that is that in the healthcare field, people will say an ounce of prevention is worth a ton of cure remaining that the idea is
you can prevent somebody from getting the disease that significantly better than a person getting the disease, and then you having to cure the disease. If, if you never become obese- and you don't have to you'll, have diabetes,
That's that's a lot better, like exports has now lubbers and getting the diabetes and having to deal entreat diabetes or that's, but
when it comes to foreign policy. When it comes to politics, preventing the bad thing from happening
is the thing that nobody sees so few spent
gears fighting wars that there's not another. Nine. Eleven and in their isn't another nine eleven people ten
get the nine eleven this possibility and instead what they do.
Is they say: oh well, let little bit of look what we're doing over here. Look at all the resources we're spending over here. Look at all the wasteful resources we're spending over here, while because we don't have
counterfactual counterfactual didn't take place, there wasn't, I don't know
and people dont. Remember nine. Eleven,
in the immediate aftermath. Nine eleven is that it was only the beginning. There is talk about the past,
would, he have, for example, a suitcase bomb being brought into new york city right, a or dirty nuke. There was talk about the possible
It was a large scale, biological attack. I remember right after this they're a bunch of anthrax, attacks in the united states and that there is a lot of concern about further terror attempts
and the assumption now is that, whilst one off in ever had the capacity that this was sort of unique, but how
The assumption in the awaken nine eleven
Nine eleven the assumption was looking at one of these. Every year, minimum
be very easy for for the for the terrorists
actually kill enormous number of americans. We spent extraordinary resources to prevent that and then it was
actually prevented. So does that mean
I've read never existed or that we overestimated the threat, or does it mean that we actually did some?
stuffing our own blundering way that prevented more attacks from occurring, but we decided
and it was the farmer that it was really we just miss It- we underestimate. Basically, we should have just gone to sleep after nine eleven and pretended that was one off in a few thousand. Americans get killed every twenty years. I guess that's no big deal because, after all, you know the world is a a big place. It's not a small place, big place
Something happened far way doesn't affect us. After all, we can,
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over two helix. The duck coms lifespan. Ok did that one of the other lessons nine eleven obviously, is that we are supposed to be part of the same quality right where the same people, everyone,
live on nine eleven remembers that people got the american flag
they started waving them for the first time. In my lifetime, everybody shorter than unified fashion, star waving the american flag, they started putting american flag
on their cars, and these are getting the the window flags to put on their own cars,
and I ve lived in a. I did over the course of time you saw gradually this happened. It was kind of it
a unique visual reminder that people had forgotten that the lessons and I in the the american flag,
then gradually replaced by in a way by the lakers lag a few years in
started, taking down the american flag in their place, the car window american flag with other flags
other priorities and-
and that have been pretty quickly so now.
there's a sort of revisionist history that you're being you're seeing presented by, I would say, the the Democrats and and the left and the media
which is that american unity
being undermined by the republicans it is. It is worthwhile remembering that this thing got very political very quickly. It was only
about a year after little things within a year until argument was on the
nor of the senate, holding up a newspaper and shouting what did bush known? When did he know it does? After the revelation
that there had been a a national security document that has been shown to constantly rice that that essentially said that bin laden was dead
to attack inside the united states and that he wanted to hijack an airplane. Now what that
Memo never said that they were planning on actually hijacking airplanes and flying them into american towers said. Is that
I was going to be hijacking just like any other terrorist hijacking. There is a plan to hijack the these aeroplanes,
and then use them in order to free other terrorists, were being held in american custody.
The media. The Democrats immediately decided jump on this because bushes approval writing was in the eighties at the time and the historical
got up on the floor of the senate and suggested that that essentially bush knew what was
on Dnc chairman howard dean set on,
local radio, that bush was quite worn ahead of time at the saudis than your times did admit that the brief
Didn't want any specific time in place, but printed my big black letters across the front page of the new york times that
basically, the bush administration and no innate blown. It said the youth
the around this blew up pretty much immediately. There is
ever a ton of unity around nine eleven lasted for about five seconds, but now, of course, you have
the democratic party, essentially saying that, if not a lot
happen now that it would off all part now again, that's a bit of original history ruined stick together very very long at all, but one of the key
factors in us not sitting together. Very long was politicians like Hillary Clinton, who again
the centre from new york at the time here is Hillary Clinton. Over the weekend,
asked about whether elected officials which are of unify in the wake of the nine eleven today and she saying she's, not sure I mean she forgets that didn't you know I'm very long and we can learn a lot of the first on the united states is resolute and we are going to support the resident just listening to that. It is such a striking reminder of how all of america's elected officials really genuinely put party aside and came together after those attacks. Would that be possible today? Well, I hope that it will be, and I give president Biden a lot of credit.
for trying to continue to reach out to people, while still sounding the alarm about the threats to our democracy, because just nonsense, I'm sorry it's just.
Nonsense. First of all, american pause his eyes from pre fractious, but beyond that, if we're talking about the splitting
Part of the american polity. If we're talking about labeling your fellow americans, the enemies, the simple fact is that the devil,
A party is doing that alot these days in romania,
entire blood red independence, hall speech, in which he essentially suggested at half the country were enemies of the republic,
I mean Hillary Clinton used. Nine. Eleven is a problem with weakened to talk about the political extremism of any kind in the united states there, whatever you think of the right
there is january, genuine sex. The notion that these people were on the level of what happened.
Eleven is just historically benighted, it's insipid
they terrorism, nine eleven saw two overnight.
Overthrow the democracy of the united states, but to replace it with a surreal law state in which women would be
pushed into absolute subjugation. They wished to kill as many western americans as possible that that I mean this, there's no there's no comp. I mean these are the
now comparable, I sure, as hell, I couldn't make no comparison over the weekend. At the same time, to crying the divisions, american politics, you can't you both. We rebuild new york, we ve done our best to take care of the families that lost so much on that terrible day and we have
also. I think then reminded about how important it is to try to deal with extremism of any kind, especially when it uses
violence to try to achieve political and ideological goals in the comparison between
happened on general, sixty nine eleven is while that is a wild comparison.
hurry. Sex is something that I d crags. I thought it frankly. It was in an act of despicable nasty
to invade the united states capital in an attempt to overthrow the the election results. I like that that that was
crazy criminal behaviour by a select few people who, by the way, partition
They did in the kind of violence that land
I'm in jail on mass also, they didn't
We kill anyone that day it was not nine eleven percent.
It was nine. Eleven is just really. It was far closer to the right and twenty twenty than was the nine eleven. These are not remotely com.
but the Democrats cited you that yesterday, this idea that you hold more in common with your fellow american than you do with america's enemies. Apparently that's been come
you forgot forgotten in the united states about
we, the idea, is that you're, real enemy is the person who lives next door to you.
We look at nine eleven we're not supposed to see the reflection of radical islam which, by the way, is still a threat to western ideals all over the world, including in iran, where Joe Biden is attempting to now cut a deal with the mullahs. The greatest terror spreaders on planet earth
The real enemy is the guy who lives next door to you who flies the trump flag. Here's mark warner, comparing republican protesters from January six to nine eleven terrorists. I was in the middle of
political campaign and suddenly the different
with my opponent seem very small in comparison
country came together and
In many ways we do
the terrorists because of the resilience of the american public, because of aren't
would change community and we are safer, better prepared,
The stunning thing to me is here: we are twenty years later and
The attack on the symbol of our democracy does not coming from terrorists, but it came from literally insurgents
attacking the capital on january setting it is it clear and avert attempt to compare
nine eleven to one sex in those are not the same thing. They are just not especially because the democratic idea here,
to broaden our sixth six to include all republicans. If you voted for trumpet twenty twenty, if you
We are voting for trump again in twain. Twenty four, if you're somebody who believes that rovers wade was wrongly decided if you're somebody
who believes that that the united states should allow for religious freedom that counters probe
left wing social orthodoxy if you're from one of those people
then you're a mega extremist and lee with with ones
and one six is just like nine eleven, so that,
In that we learn immediately after nine eleven, which is that americans are not your enemies. Americans are your friends against the real enemies out there. That's that's gone and that that is long gone at this point here is commonly harrison.
president of the united states over the weekend talking about
extremists undermine again, they talk about their fellow american.
The same way, the bush talked about Al Qaeda after nine eleven as the president, as our president made clear in philadelphia last week, the threats we face as a nation are great threats to our freedom threats to our very democracy, and we need to speak truth about that, and so today we are, by coming together, reaffirm that we refuse
to let extremist so called leaders dismantle our democracies sounds like maritime law about osama, not
That is rhetoric that is identical to the rhetoric that was used
politicians are both parties in the aftermath of nine eleven, which is truly wild.
Is that lesson has been completely lost right, that we have to at least have a unified front against the bad guys out their apparently. The bad guys are the people who just go into the voting
next door and vote the the way that is, that is other than yours.
by the way, I think it is worthwhile at this point to debunking the idea that
Opposition to democracy exists on only one side of the iron there's, a pull out from actually said. It's kind of a fascinating pull that with a bunch of interesting implications. Talking
about how many people generally are warm toward
what we would say, our anti institutional, democratic tendencies in the united states,
and it is true nearly everywhere, most people see politics as an extension of war by other means, but we do politics.
You, draw drowsy and have to fight fight, in the words Winston churchill, except domestically that basically, politics is a way that we avoid actual armed conflict with one another, but because people
view it that way, as opposed to. We have a shared set of broader ideals that require us to vote on them and we ought to have checks and balance to protect the fundamental rights which is the way the founder
I wish tat. You should see any unify polity. If you see power
as merely war by other means, then what have you lose if you
whose, and you start to look at the institutions and say those institutions are my enemy and unfortunately abroad,
while the people I think this has existed. I don't think this is unique to americans twenty twenty two. I think this exists across nearly every democracy, but it it is very striking. The polls statistics showing how many people in the united states would read
when, for the preserve the institutions and again, is it
I partisan problem in the united states, for example, in this ball people were asked
strong, unelected leaders better than weak elected ones. Now, but a couple of history to read that question right, one is: is democracy better than dictatorship in all cases, and
like it'd, be you'd, be hard pressed to say the democracy is better than dictatorship. In literally every case I mean there have been Democrats, there been democracies in which commerce is elected right. There is the democratic,
watching in the Gaza strip in terrorist group, collected elected there have been been, democracies were truly evil, people get elected and there have been dictatorships
in which certain human rights were actually upheld, for example singapore. So to to pretend that this is like in easy
the first thing that democracy, always every time, is better than dictatorship.
It wasn't better during europe's bring when they try to
democracy in egypt and end with them with the muslim brotherhood in charge. Up again, that is nonsense.
me speaking. Democracy is not better than dictatorship. Broadly speaking, democracy is, of course, better than dictatorship. Is Winston churchill said tomorrow
Is the worst system except, for example, all of the others, but there income.
ways to read this one. So so we wonder
This is, would you prefer? A dictator who agrees with you for a democratically elected leader in your own system
who disagrees with the right? That's one way rate, which is a real threat to democracy. The other way to read it is: is it always true that a democratically elected leader, even if he is weakened terrible, is better than a a strong, powerful central
I figure and unsurprisingly, an enormous number americans on both sides of the isle, actually,
Are our warm toward the idea of strong centralized power? That is not a shock in woodrow wilson,
very close to a dictator in the united states. After I was very close to a dictator in the united states, they people
are very warm for dictatorial figures. Just generally speaking, demagogic
We will get you a long way in any country. That's true in the united states right now. Unsurprisingly, that favour that that pole, forty two percent of
publicans, say that strong, unelected leaders are better than weak elected ones, and so
people on the left are going so well that that means people are talking about trumped. They rather have trumpet the dictator than Joe Biden isn't
leader, it's also quite possible that what they mean by this
that Joe Biden is so weak that he's endangering the republic and he's being out competed by by dictators brought. That again is not a unique thought in humans,
thirty three percent of democratic rule by the way so few
You are a believer that democratic institutions are more important than the character and quality of intervene,
leader, no matter where you are, there will always be a significant percentage of people in democracy who disagree with that, but is that a threat?
Why certainly something we take into consideration? We actually elect leaders we oughta. What's leaders are capable of
the job and our strong in performance of their constitutional duties. It turns
at the best leader is a strong elected leader, not
a strong dictator, we collectively or the best day, strong elected leader
in the sense of centralizing power, but and sense of doing his duty, another question on it
and it just shows the flip side president's
able to remove judges decisions go against the national interest this. What this question frankly seems to me a lot
more specific than strong and elected leaders are better than we collected ones by, but what's, let's pretend that the questions are adjacent or equivalent?
Forty two per cent of democrats interpreting should simply be able to remove a judge she doesn't like, which is better
billion since it by thirty five percent of republicans, agree there. Sorry, thirty, five percent total agree. Twenty nine percent of republicans agree. So those are big numbers,
basically in net now you're getting into the water, where at least one third of americans just kind of like dictatorship, and that scary thirty, eight percent total of americans said the government should side with them.
Already over ethnic or religious minority rights
so. The idea of rice should just not exists. You should have a french revolution sale mob accuracy according to at least thirty eight percent of americans
Some people say that democracy is in danger from just right side. It now understand that that's not actually true. It's always
you're on a knife edge, which is why you have to have people who act within the confines of institutions and swinging.
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wherever you listen to pod gaza case, we are talking about the undermining of institutional trust in the united states and again the west.
of nine eleven. If you are talking about american unity in the face of an aggressive bad world and the idea of you,
I have something in common and your fellow americans. What you shouldn't do is spending your time actually undermining the institutions that everybody, when it comes to trump,
What the suggestion is always that donald trump is the killer when in reality, Donald trump seems to be more of a symptom. Then the disease has to say
from hasn't done damage for institutions. He certainly has, but the idea that down from the chief
rachel american institutions is just silliness, it's just not real mean donald trump, as the chief threat chief threat to america's institutions is not a reality. Now, when you have the Democrats, who proclaim
They are all in favour of democratic institutions fund,
actually undermining american institutions. So, for example, PAMELA Harris spent the weekend blasting the supreme court. Here she was blasting the so called activist supreme court for overturning roe, vs wade boy. She terrible does how much confidence you have in this report. I think this is an act of his court. What does that mean? It means that we had an established right for almost half a century, which is the right of women to make decisions about their own body as an extension of what we have decided to be the privacy rights to which all people are entitled, and this
court top that constitutional right away gate for fifty years in this country there was a right establishing, plus iversen ferguson for railroad cars to segregate and was taken away round was aboard
I'm sorry, but the establishment of a fake right by the supreme court does not mean this.
court cannot later overrule the establishment of that fake right. There is no right to abortion in the constitution of the united states.
You wanna talk about the undermining of the american judicial system now
Be it right there from calmly harris in that poll, shows
Thirty two percent of Democrats believe the president should simply be able to remove judges who disagree with him. Meanwhile, you have carla harris who is a friend of democracy, saying that we have to ditch the fillable
entirely where we need to make sure that europe ran through when every one was fifty one votes in the senate. Our president has said he will not let filibuster get in the way. If the Senate throw majority vote votes to pass the women's health protection act, he will cited until I know that means in the mid terms. We need to hold onto the senate and two more and then we can put into law the protection of roby wait. Everything is on the line me think about the millions of women and people in america who care about them, who understand the significance of protecting a woman's right to make decisions about her own body, the german federal government and its telling her what to do to put the two sites, which are more legislative, filibuster, gone
or just on this issue? The president has been clear on this issue and on a very important issue in addition to that important issue, which is voting rights, okay, so basically everything they want to ram through they're, just going to kill the filibuster. If they declare an issue important enough, they are going to say
can Ramat, through with a simple majority and common harris being the deciding vote right. Fifty plus one
which is openly bragging about the fact that you're not doing anything about partisan fashion, but she says that she's the device-
as an aunt who's, been the deciding vote the most times and she's bragging about this, as though this is where bipartisan presidency. That cares deeply about democratic institutions ought know in our first year in office
some of the historians broke, John Adams record asking the most tiber you both.
What's so funny about about with a beer.
your ram things through. Bi partisanship gave me, like
Al Franken who's openly doubting the legitimacy of the supreme court? Don't worry guys. Democracy is in safe hands. With the Democrats, the legitimacy of the court was undermined when they wouldn't take up merrick garland
and your member that Mcconnell said was because its during election year
your member lindsey gram, pledging that, if they vacancy came, came open
during election year n.
Twenty that he wouldn't bout for they, wouldn't they wouldn't take up a nominee. They ve stolen two seats, the one american airline
wasn't given a hearing for and the one the colony baron was where she was seated a week before the election that destroyed
the legitimacy of a court near there is no general sees the coroner. Going now. Frank! Don't worry! These are the great defenders of democracy,
by the way come on, there's actually asked about, you know you guys keep saying that that the right and people who disagree with your threatening democracy. So why do you keep your party? Why are they keep backing election
deniers in elections on the republicans out of the air.
run against Democrats what's the deal, and so she has to dodgers humble harris trying to bob and weave as though she has any capacity to do.
Made the press over the weekend. When you see the democratic party and some part
The party funding adds to promote
some of these election deniers and primaries, whether its michigan, the high profile race, their illinois, colorado new hampshire. It looks like a cynical
in a little bit. Cynical right. You have done this. Is this year your this! This think I'm gonna tell people how to run their campaigns. Tat. I ran for state
Why? For attorney general reelection
One both times for senate
that raise, and I know that it is best to to lead
a candidate along with their there.
advisers, let them make. The
vision based on what they believe is in the best interests of their state. Oh ok, so I should not going to deny propping up people. She says are actual threat to the republic of the union
yet again, the lessons of nine eleven are way in the rearview mirror, which means that we are setting ourselves up for a bruising already guys. The rest of the show is continuing now: you're, not gonna, wanna it. Where we heading into ukraine actually pushing russia back what that means globally. Speaking plus we are going to get to pillory talking about her.
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