Even sexual harassment and assault can be made into partisan issues. President Trump finally sounds off on Judge Roy Moore plus Al Franken, and we go to the mailbag, I'm Ben Shapiro. This is the Ben Shapiro and so yesterday I said that we were in the midst of a flaming garbage fire in american politics. Wrong. I was we're only on the edge of the flaming garbage pile yesterday, but today we are definitely in the center of the flaming garbage heap after all fallout from Al Franken. After the fact, it now appears that every Democrat will end up standing with Al Franken and it appears that every Republican or a lot of Republicans one of standing with Roy Moore, it appears that no one really cares about bad conduct, which is very upsetting to me personally 'cause. I don't like that, but we will talk about all of these things in just one. Second, first, I want to say thank you to our friends over at quip. So if you are concerned about not just your oral hygiene, but your actual health than you should

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her while she was sleeping and then during a rehearsal, he had written listen to a senior comedian, and he said he rammed his tongue down her throat, which is just disgusting, and so all of this had created enormous amount of an enormous amount of controversy. In fact, we can start with Leanne Tweeden talking about frank- and here is what Lens Weeden had to say about his clip die the world that you're making for your children for your two year old and for your for your old? You realize that you are making it better for them. I don't know the genders of your children, but it actually doesn't even matter a boy and a girl, okay. Well, but it's, but both of them need to be impacted by this right, not just the girl. You know you always sorry, nothing to be sorry about And think I was going to do that, but You know you do you want to leave. You know you try to set

examples for children right? You want to leave the world a better place, and so nation again. Frank are obviously serious enough that yesterday bunch I said well we'll start to send an ethics committee investigation and Franken himself calls for a Senate ethics investigation. There's only one problem with it's total nonsense between two thousand and six and two thousand and seventeen, or between rather two thousand Two thousand and sixteen there were six hundred and thirteen different Senate ethics investigation request how many punishments were handed down, how many sections are heading down: zero giant, zero, so Democrats say yeah we're treating Al Frankin with the gravest seriousness, no you're, not this would you have an ethics investigation about there's a picture of him trying to grab her boobs while she sleeping what exactly He is the investigation lying to me. Senator Franken. Did you try grab that one's boobs center, Frank and there's a picture of it, but it was a joke ethics committee. Well, there's a picture of it him I take the fifth like well, what is the investigation going to be about here? Exactly and now we know

okay. The fact is that the left is willing to throw people under the bus when they're no longer useful to them, but they want to put when they are useful right. When it's Bill Clinton now they can throw Clinton under the bus. They were a bunch of articles how Bill Clinton should resign in nineteen. Ninety eight thanks for getting with nineteen years late gang and now there a bunch of articles Al Franken, stick around there, woman, Kate Harding, who the co editor of nasty women, feminism resistance and revolution in Trump's America's she's, a feminist right. She shows a podcast. Called them a nasty which sounds like death on the ears. And here is what and she wrote a piece for the Washington Post today called I'm a feminist. I study rape, culture and one L Al Franken, resign yeah freaking shocked as This is the author of a book on rape culture. I could reasonably be expected to lead the calls for African stepped on file of the step down following allegations that he forced his tongue down a woman's throat, accompanied by a photo of him grinning as he moves into grow per breast. While she sleeps it's disgusting, he treated the woman is a common, more human than the contents of carrot top strong. I firmly believe it's social and professional consequences for it, but I don't believe resign

for. His position is the only possible consequence or the one that's best. Can women cynic both the right and left will presume, I'm passing by this particular steam tray on two thousand and seventeen smorgasbord. The feminist outrage, because Franklin is a Democrat and so am I I was even his proud constituent for two years in the most superficial sense. This is true, and it's not just the most super, but that's like the only sense. There is no deep. Sense that you think Frank is going to vote the way you want to vote and they are fine with this. This is just this is just a variation on the old time magazine com. This neutralize comment about Bill Clinton that she'd be willing to offer him oral sex so long as he kept abortion. Legal and we're seeing this on both sides of the aisle now and it's just gross, and I think it's something we need to come to grips with our own grossness is humans before we can actually fix it. People talk about raising awareness, so I'm not to raising awareness when it's counterproductive, but I think it is about raising awareness when it comes to examine your own political motives, because I think we all have political motives and it just into into certain cul de sacs, of partisan aggression that I think are are negative. She says,

it's meaningless to say it's because I'm a Democrat without asking why I am a Democrat if you understand what it means to be a Democrat today, that is why it makes sense to vote blue over red in this highly polarized political environment. You can stand why it might not make the most sense to demand. Franken's resignation effective immediately, I'm a Democrat, because I'm a is to live under a two party system, I'm not believer in the party, nor in any politician, I'm a realist. You recognize we get two viable choices, so this is the exact argument, the exact argument that is now being used to back Roy Moore, She says, isn't that hypocritical? I hear you asking because Republicans won't do the right thing we shouldn't either, but if the shorts right thing leads to long term political catastrophe for american women. I think we need, reconsider our definition of the right thing. The exact opposite of the argument. I mean it's, the same argument, actually that's being made, is just the photo negative of the it's being made by a lot of people who are backing remorse and listen. If Doug Jones gets in the Senate, he's gonna vote for abortion. I hate abortion. So if I have to choose a she's to write more. It's the this is the photo negative argument and the problem is both. To make this argument. We will get people who are alleged sexual

masters, and sexual assaulters in the Senate, Chockablock It will be there all the time, it None of this is going to change. Change. Comes about when we realized that the ends don't always justify the means. We realized that yes, I would not vote for Doug Jones. Yes, I would you know I would not vote for ranking, but that doesn't mean that, just because somebody is bad, I have to vote for their opponent, or I can't find hard solution. I can't find some sort of right in solution, so all of is is is very upsetting and disappointing, and it makes us feel like we have nothing in common, because we don't. We don't have any com. If we're to the point where we believe that sexual station or sexual assault allegations gonna put by the wayside, because it's more important to feed the other side, then we can't live in a republic with each other. We just can't I mean they. They they. The end of the republic has basically come out with all of this happening. You can see the politicians are are using this Mentality is way to maintain power. This is, is on both sides, so you example. Roy Moore has been hit with,

all these terrible allegations he's coming back now sing. The Mitch Mcconnell should step down, so the more partisan Roy Moore gets the more he is protected right to harbor position, more fiery, a position he takes the more. He knows that there we're going to rally to his side, to quote unquote, is the other side. So here is Roy Moore attacking Mcconnell saying Mcconnell should be the one who steps down. Not me right now, man stand here wearing my cross, an american flag pin amidst nations that I'm not rebutted in any serious way, Mitch Mcconnell, who is the woman should step down? Listen, I'm not a fan of Mitch Mcconnell, but this has nothing to do with Mcconnell, but again the more partisan you can make the argument- We know that people rally to your side so here is here, is Roy Moore, saying this. Well, I want to tell you who needs to step down Mitch Mcconnell comments about me. Taking a stand. Yes, I have taken the stand in the past I'll, take a stand in the future and I'll quit stand

when they lay me on that box and put me in the ground. Well, that's weird and then Bob and Does the same thing from the other side to Bob Mendez was not acquitted, but there was a hung. There's a mistrial and his trial yesterday and so he comes out and he turns it into a partisan issue. Knowing that his own side will rally around him, as they were going to Democrats would you can answer the question whether Menendez was convicted. They would expel him from the Senate, they might keep him there right now. Menendez is coming out. Making this partisan and making it even more partisan The more we now live in a dynamic where the more part you can make any issue any personal issue, the better chance surviving it right Bill Clinton was able to turn sexual station allegation. Sexual misconduct allegations. He was able to turn those allegations in his own favor by suggesting that it was a vast right wing, conspiracy, you're, seeing more do the same thing,

yes left wing in the Stablishment conspiracy using Bob and then do the same thing on corruption. It's a vast right wing and racist conspiracy. Here's minutes doing that yesterday to those who left main who abandoned me in my darkest moment. I forgive you to those who embraced me in my darkest moment. I love you for those New Jersey ones who gave me put it out, I think, to those who were digging my political grave so that they could jump into my seat. I know who you are, and I won't forget you This is making and right everyone who backed him he'll remember, and he will love you and I mean, isn't this mafioso type language right and if you didn't back him I'll, remember you and I will never forget you you're. A million blazoned on my memory forever again. If you We use partisanship distract from your own misconduct, then we're just going to get the worst of the worst in every situation. Ok, so, finally, here

and it's done the poll in Alabama right now with read more show. The latest poll from Fox NEWS shows that Roy Moore is down eight. I don't believe that Paul. I think a lot of people are lying to the pollsters and- and I think that the the race actually much closer than that. The reason I believe that is because, if you look at the Alabama result, for the last several election cycles. What you see is that no republican candidate in Alabama since two thousand and two has lossed. It has lot ahead, has won a few less than sixty percent of the so Republicans outnumber Democrats in the state. Like two to one, so the idea that he's losing by a point to be truly shocking, but yet that, and with with that said, is apparently in a tight race, he's losing the race and he won't step down. As I said before, the only person who could really step in and put an end to Roy Moore's run here would be President Trump will get to President Trump's reaction to all of these things. Finally, he's speaking out, but not in with that, I would like I will get to all that in just a second but first I want to say thank you to our sponsors. Yes, concealed carry association? So if you are

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It has a position on everything right, yeah position on Jemele Hill at ESPN. He said she should be fired. He said the Colin cap. Because the as a son of a bit, you should be fired, even though it was really NFL time an you know, I may agree with his assessment on who kneel for the anthem- and I may agree that Jemelle Hill now that she should be fired. I don't think she should have been fired, but that she was wrong and her assessment of politics, but he's been really silent on Roy Moore for over a week, even though he endorsed Roy Moore, F, more win the primary. So finally, Sarah Huckabee Sanders is trotted out to answer questions about about Roy Moore and what this does mystery by the way is that Sean Hannity in the White House are very much in coordination, because as call Sean Hannity the night before last came out and said that he wanted to let the people of Alabama inside the White House is giving exactly the same message. So that is a shift. Apparently, there are reports that Sean had been getting calls from Nnn and from the White House saying back for a more a little bit. I the White House,

is, is also backing off of Roy Moore. Here's, our Huckabee Sanders saying that from things the people of Alabama ought to decide which is a truism again. I said this yesterday, you know when people say things like let the people decide we. They're really saying. Is that they're not going to take a position? That's really what they're saying and that stupid ok Trump is taking on everything is, literally everything all the things from his taking a position on, but he chooses to go strategically silent. The reason that that's bad not just because I think it's immoral, even though I do think it's immoral. The reason that I think is bad is because Donald Trump is one of very few people in America who could actually make a difference in this Senate race and actual, make sure the Republicans keep the seat without that see. Being Roy Moore's here, here is Sarah Huckabee Sanders, though basically kicking the can down the road that president believes that these allegations are very troubling and should be taken seriously, and he thinks that the people of Alabama should make the decision on who their next senator should be.

So that's a no things were more should stay in what the president said in his statement earlier this week that if the allegations are true, then that way. More should step aside. He still firmly believes that. Ok, so you know that doesn't mean anything. Right we now know what we know. Ok, nothing further is really going to come out here. The idea that, if true he should step aside but let them Alabama decide again, People of Alabama will decide right, but he can have an impact on this. If you were to come out and say, Roy Moore, get out people of Alabama, Don't lose the Senate race because of Roy Moore that would have an impact in this race- but that's not what's happening here, then and then Trump tweets, but so Trump doesn't say anything more right, but he does some things to say about Al Frankin, so the allegations come out about Frank and he's been completely silent on twitch he's been over in Asia. This is the excuse for him not commenting on more. He comes back, and now he's on he's on twitter late at night, and so Trump starts tweeting about Al Franken's. Eight weeks, the l, Frank, Steen picture, and it's it's frank and

sign right, but he still Frankenstein. I instead of III again spell check Frankenstein Pictures really bad speaks one thousand words. Where do his going pictures two three, four five and six while she sleeps, he continues along these lines and he says and to think that just last he was lecturing anyone who would listen about sexual harassment and respect for women, Lesley Stahl tape, the Leslie his reference to him, king jokes, about about sexually abused. Leslie Least, while she's asleep or something now so you know, Trump is really willing to sound off about Frank and now a lot of people on the right love this about Trump. That he's not shy. Without sounding off about political opposition and when it comes to the partisan battles. This is the thing that they really enjoy about. Trump is that Trump is always happy to throw in the other direction, so really stupid strategy. Okay, the reason this is stupid strategy is, we are going to get a full week of talk about all of the sexual her and abuse allegations against Donald Trump. There was something like fifteen or sixteen women who've made sexual assault or harassment allegations against Trump at the end of last election cycle. We not yet had Harvey Weinstein blow up scenarios.

Get to redo, all of that which is really really exciting, and it's one reasons. By the way, I think that Trump has not actually come out and openly condemn more because the problem- is that once you can down more once you get involved in these issues. Now it it comes back around you right. Just as from says you know, Al Franken, was talking about sexual harassment negative way, but then you sexually harassing people, it's very hard for Trump to be the leader and the tip of the spear on sexual harassment and abuse Huckabee, Sound specifically asked by a reporter over at Fox NEWS about this right. Here is Huckabee Sanders being asked to comment the allegations against Trump, we should find one set of allegations very troubling. On the other. We should pay attention to them at all, or we should totally just well. I think the president has. Certainly a lot more insight into what he personally did or didn't do, and he spoke out about that directly during the in, and I don't have anything further to add me on that. Okay, so basically, we're gonna keep silent because we don't want to blow to come back around. This is the problem with having Our standards that we have our own double standard

standard, and then our politicians pay the price for the double standard, on the one hand, we say that if they're on our side, we don't care and on the other side, on the other hand, we see if they're, not on our side. We do care that double standard has ramifications for petition, because it means that Trump is going to want. But if you can then sell Frank, it's gonna come back around to Trump in the right is gonna have to suggest it was it that that the allegations about Trump are not credible, but the allegations against Frank and are super credible, which I don't buy by the way. I think the allegations against from work credible during the prime I think they or during the general election again don't say that you shouldn't have voted for Trump to stop Hillary, but I do think that I didn't. I didn't vote at the top of the ticket. Because I take these things very very seriously, so the idea that we can have as a people this double standard in our mind that has to change so either we're gonna say as a public. What we're gonna say is public one of two things: we care about these allegations enough to get rid of people doesn't matter the political affiliation or we

don't care enough to get rid of people doesn't matter their political affiliation are going to have to make that decision. Otherwise, we just have this hypocritical standard. Now I do want to a little bit about the generalized societal problem. That's coming up with some of these sexual harassment allegations, and that is I've, said now for a couple of weeks, really, six weeks since the Harvey Weinstein stuff, which society do not have a consistent standard that applying regard to what sort of allegations to take seriously and what sort of allegations not to take seriously so The reason that I say this is because we are treating sexual. Allegations where a guy said something nasty towards all women out. The same as we are treating rape allegations and that seems to me not correct. I think that you and then both- but I don't think they are worthy of equal levels of condemnation. For example, there is the actress Ellen Page and Ellen page. Had this whole thing about director she worked with. Our fellow actor she works. Member who she's talking about who had said some it was.

It was about Ratner. I guess who's had a lot of sexual allegations made against him, and she says that Brett Ratner at one point made some sort of nasty lesbian reference to her on the set. An bad. It is bad, ok and he deserves to be condemned for that, obviously, and then it says in that same allegation in the same facebook post. She says that I want you sexually assaulted by a grip. These are not the same kind of thing, they're, both bad but they're, not quite the same kind of bad right, and sexual assault are not the same thing as sexual harassment. Conflating the two actually ends up making light of sexual assault because it allows people to slough it off. It allows people to basically say: okay, you know that's the same as saying something nasty well sexually passing a woman sexually assaulting a woman or not quite the same thing, they're both bad, but there are different levels of bad. It's bad! It's bad to hit a child, it's worse to kill a child it's bad, it's bad to yell at somebody, it's much worse to hit somebody. So I I think We need to be careful about the standards that we apply and also the credibility of a particular

particular standards. The reason that I've been so harsh on Roy Moore is I find the allegations particularly credible because they're supporting details, it's the I found Juanita Broderick to be credible. I think they're supporting details. She was in the place. She said she was at the time she said she was. They were contemporaneous people that she had told at the time, but I think that one things that that is going to happen. Now is the stereo is, is so loud and so much that there's the so they're going to jump to conclusions. We shouldn't jump to conclusions. I've called for a certain level of credibility, but I think that to determine for ourselves what exactly that level of credibility is, in other words, I'm hung for a standard, because otherwise sexual harassment, sexual, these just going to become clubs that you can wield against the other side rather than a real attempt to cleanse. Society of a great evil is so said, just what I said, I think that's it that's worth what's coming up on other comment that I know one so yesterday. I tweeted something all these went nuts because they didn't understand what I saying I treated that it seems like The only solution here is robot politicians. I was not specifically speak

Sexual harassment is saying all of our politicians suck and a lot of power oceans are willing to cover for people who suck ok, Kirsten Jilla brand is one of them. She came out yesterday and she said that Bill Clinton should have resigned in one thousand nine hundred and ninety eight. She was literally campaigning with six months ago. So, no ok, it all politicians are garbage. You may get less sexual harassment if women There are more women in Congress. I think you probably would, but that doesn't mean that legislation would be any better or they wouldn't cover for bad behavior. Ok, that's just the reality of the situation. We we at we as a society, have abandoned a particular moral standards and that moral stand that comes with Khan okay, none of this arises in a vacuum. Sexual harass sexual abuse these always happen, but so used to have certain standards of behavior that we demanded from our politicians, and we demanded from people more generally live in a society where the stand, don't exist unless we almost randomly side. They exist again as old. It says that a consistent standard or or don't have a standard, all the don't don't it did. This read this kind of pick and choose routine is a very dangerous for the heart of our politics. Double

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for the other. One that I saw was the lost city of Z. The marketing campaign for this movie was really quite terrible. One of the reasons the marketing campaign was terrible. If you looked at some of the original posters, it was not clear. This was a period piece. This is a better poster for lost. City of Z makes clear that this is a period piece about exploration. It is also true that the title of the film is really bad. It should be called the lost city of Z. They should've called it the explorer or something something that Actually, then, in the interest of the film is not really in the search for the lost city of the it's really in the biography of the of the central character of the film and the performances in this film are actually quite good. I'm not a big, Charlie Hunnam fan, I find manner, but Robert Pattinson gives a terrific performance, and you know Robert Pattinson could act on as as Mathis was pointing out to me before the show both Robert Pattinson, and Kristen Kristen Stewart can act but, as Donald Trump said she treated it. She cheated on him like a dog and she'll. Do it again just watch as so Robert Pattinson is very very good in this movie of the movie is about

an explorer named faucet and he is For this city in the Amazon, he thinks that there is lost city in the Amazon, this sort of city of gold- and he goes searching for it and sort of his wife and children behind his wife played by Sienna Miller, who is quite good in the film and all the performances actually across the board, except for homes are pretty good. So here is here, is a little bit of you to dream to seek the unknown. To look for what is beautiful is its own reward. A man's reach should exceed his grasp or whatever, they explore I wish to find a lost city. What do you seek is far greater? Can you ever

ok, so the preview is, you can see it's beautifully directed. It's really well acted! It's really! Oscar bait and it's been largely ignored, it didn't do any sort of business at the theater. So far as I can tell even though it's got a bunch of big name actors in a really big budget and is beautifully shot, there's a whole world war, one sequence: it's really well done cell. It's it's it's well! worth watching. It is not an uplifting film, it sort of tries to be an it sort of tries to be politically correct at the same time there if you kind of politically correct ropes in there, but it's well worth it Ok, so I have more things that I like and some things that I hate the mailbag, but for that you're going to have to go over to daily wired? I come into scrap for nine ninety nine a month you can get a subscription to dailywire dot com. That means that you get most of my show on video live means they get to be part of the mailbox. If you subscribe right this minute, you can part of the mailbag which will be doing in about five minutes, and you can ask me questions and I have all your life's questions answered. You also get the rest of Andrew Klavan show live there well noisy, show live we're going to start. A new show on Fridays. That should be pretty great, where we just

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at least on the rope senator RON Johnson, he said he's not going to put forward as it currently stands. Lisa Murkowski saying I can vote for as it currently stands at the basically one, a one vote away for nothing classic so, but but let's see some Good news, okay, so this I thought was just super cute, so this came from ABC News. There's a little five year old kid who's, coming back from kindergarten on the school bus, three year. Old sister is waiting for him, and this is just adorable if you can't just giving her a big hug and carrying around and they're walking home yeah. It's super cute, so, as a parent of two, this is I, the worst thing in the world is a is when your kids are beating the crap out of each other is really it's really hard to watch, but when I daughter, might who's older three one slash two when she treats my son really well and when he we have the more he loves her. I mean he's obsessed with her like she. She gets up in the morning. He gets up earlier and she does and then her name is Leah. He goes here

yeah and then he runs into her room because he loves her so much and then she'll give him a big hug the cutest thing in the world, so this kind of stuff is really fantastic. Apparently they used to fight a lot and now that he went to school, she realizes what she's missing she's happy her brother comes on as that's just cute stuff. Okay, things that that I, like so Orrin Hatch, Senator. Finally lost a short brown hair Brown, a senator from Ohio and just a terrible, senator and he was on the tax reform bill, suggesting that- hurts the middle class, which is absolutely untrue. The fast fast fast fast fast Shorty of Americans in the project middle class. Get a tax cut from this bill Orrin Hatch, basically laid the what the shared brown for for suggesting. Otherwise I come from the for people, and I've been here for working. My whole stinkin career for people who don't have a chance. And I really resent anybody saying that I'm just doing this for the rich, give me a break. I think guys over play, that all the time and it gets old

frankly, yadda yadda quit mister share of the public enemies, just I'm not true I get kind of sick and tired of it. True, it's nice political play. Well, mister. Going through all due respect. I get sick and tired of the richest regular order. Mister heading richer anger order, or do we do it and over and over again and then Hatch went off on him. Some more so you know again It is a really tired, talking point this idea that it's the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. There is no evidence of that. The poor have gotten richer. The rich have gotten richer over the past thirty years for sure and the idea that The tax cuts are solely benefit. The people at the top of the spectrum is just not true, considering that the people at the top of the spectrum are paying nearly all of the net income tax in the United States. Ok time for some things. I hate them on mail back it up, so

quick things that I hate, so Hillary Clinton yesterday she was asked about an investigation into her, and why is she still here like still bothering everyone she's she's. Someone suggested that sort of become the Rick asked leave politics. They used a wreck rolled into into playing videos of Hillary Clinton. I think that's basically correct Also. She apparently shops in in the wardrobe fashion by Maria, in bye, bye by Julie, Andrews in sound of music like offer clothes made from curtains in any case here is here, is Hillary Clinton talking about wine instigation into her would be an abusive power, but if I try to take myself out of it, which you know is kind of hard, because it's personally offensive that they would do this, but taking myself out of it. This is such an abuse of power, and it goes right. At the rule of law. Ok, so it goes in the rule of law when she's investigated, but it doesn't go,

the rule of law when Jim Comey of the F B, I, according to the Obama Administration letter off without evidence, yeah. That is so. I love this for Hillary. It's an abuse of power, when she is investigated, but not an abuse of power when she's let off for no reason, that's really setting. Also, I don't understand why she's wearing, like a necklace made from balls from a ball crawl at giggles and hugs, that's confusing to ok, so enough, one Hillary's wardrobe, let's make fun of art, so there is a Christie's there's a Christie's auction the other day and there a couple of his of work, one for a lot of money. So there is a a Davinci painting of Jesus that went for four hundred and fifty million dollars which the If somebody has too much money on their hands and it doesn't look like Jesus it's kind of like the Mona LISA with a beard. It's not it's, not good, but that was not the bad painting. The worst painting is this okay. So there is an artist, I guess named side Trombley now I will acknowledge you know much about modern art, mainly because I think most modern art is supreme. Garbage besides Walmsley is

is a modern artist who executed a series called the Box series who who really deep, really meaningful. This painting apparently sold yesterday or a couple days ago. Four, forty, one million dollars for four zero million dollars. Ok, do you see this painting? Do you see this? my one one slash two year old made this for my fridge. Yesterday. Ok, that's what this looks like it's a bunch of swirlies with paint but the care, the genius of it, my god, okay, if this is forty million dollars, then I can crap something out worth ten. Okay, that's and so yeah I just wanna redo from Christie's distressed is marketing it. This way collectively marking the culmination of twelve fifty years of painterly practice. The series comprises three distinct sets. The first of these six eight feet. High portrait forming paintings

was completed in two thousand and four towering over the viewer at more than ten feet high and sixteen feet wide. How would like to walk into your house- and this is the entire wall? If this happened, I would immediately spent my son if They'D- actually I wouldn't he's great, but I would read the wall I mean, for God's sake, like if this is this is your entire wallet looks like Charles Manson, I've been inside your house and ridiculous fifteen to masterwork will lead the post war and contemporary art evening sale at Christie's in New York. It was using a pole to which was affixed to brush drenched Richard Vermilion Paint, it's bright red spiral seems both climb and loud each of his marks to rundown the canvas suggesting the dripping of wine or blood or like paint right, says, the paintings basically looping motif was a recurring theme in Trumbull ISAR.

This form fascinated him for several years in the meandering scrawl of the blackboard paintings of the late 1960s, he explored its capacity to convey through repetition, a sense of single continuous field of energy. Here, Trombley revisited and develop this line in an epic scale. This is Saj both ok, this is it like. I'm sorry, this is garbage. And then the idea that everything is art. Okay, you wanna call this our call it art, okay, but its finger painting there is bad art get into it, not to not to get into deep philosophy here about art. No one of the things that makes art art is a certain amount of skill to be an artist means the have perfecting your craft. Right, there's a difference between somebody like me, who is very good at violin and somebody who's legitimately virtuosic violin, and the difference is that person has more craft than I do. I've talked about art and craft before I've talked about the idea that craft will require skill I hate about modern art. Is that it's much more about energy and it's all subjective

I think that you can say. I think that you can objectively say this is bad art. I think there are certain objective standards, and I think one of the standards you can apply is how many people on earth could make this. How many people on earth can make this everyone every person can make this ok there's no one. There elephants that can make this at the zoo they legitimate Cavs use where elephants like make art. They sell them for, like fifteen bucks, and it supports the survival of the elephants to be a much better spend? Then Tom Lease ART, the leftist leftist idea that subjectivity- create its own value. Is so stupid that I can't believe it now. Listen. If somebody does this mean that the person who bought it has too much money Not necessarily it means that the person who bought it has terrible taste, but the idea that art has no standards whatsoever is the death of everything right true in music, we look at people who play three chords and suddenly there Beethoven we look at people who rhyme badly and suddenly there Shakespeare the the whole purpose of art is that yours,

post to be better at something than anyone else, no other arena of american life or western life. Do we treat people like this? Only in the artistic field? We do this right. You never do this with the plumber. You never be like the plumber wouldn't come in and screw up your pipes and be like you know what he really. Uses creativity there. You know I can take a hammer's beat on that pipe and it gives me a new sense of meaning art is a job yeah it requires skill. This is why all the great artists spent years in apprenticeship they spent years perfecting their craft. If you got it, if I see something where I got up in the morning and all I would have view is basically spit. Honest and this- and this would now be art. It makes me angry and I think it's stupid, okay, the person who bought it is more on our okay, how rich they are okay time for the mail. That Benjamin, writes your band. What books you recommend for novice in the study of economic ideologies, an easel when the errors of socialism and communism, thank you. Well, I hi tech has a couple of books said the did that are that are quite book that,

they're quite good on this are the name of the of the Hyatt book that is most famous road to serfdom. That's the one that sort of explains the the failures of socialist economic economics in one lesson is always the easiest economics book and explains why Keynesianism is wrong number of very good books, comma sold books on basic economics. Explain it as well PAL says: do you practice the infamous Shapiro's mark in the mirror before debate. If I were to give it like blue steel, what would you call it uhm Well, I mean I don't actually have a name for I don't practice it. It's been natural since childhood. I assume there are certain kind of facial tics that everyone has and that's just one the other one that I have is what I'm thinking I tend to kind of roll my eyes a little bit and I've been working on that one, because it annoys me and my wife but that I don't have a name for we'll have to we'll have to come up with one. So if you have any suggestions Kyle, we are perfectly willing to take this under advisement Lamberto. I says hi, then recently I posted on Facebook, exercise describing the horrible situation in Venezuela due to their socialist policies in response to

article liberal friend of mine, commented saying Venezuela is a bad example of socialism and Germany, good example: socialism. Why can't the us be effective as Germany, I didn't know exactly how to counter that statement. Perhaps you can help me out well actually that as well a better example of socialism, since it has more government running of resources, socialism and communism are based, State ownership of resources? If you want to talk about heavy regulation, redistribution of resources that really unless socialism than it is what they call sort of modified capitalism, Germany is much more along those lines it is like. Germany is closer in economics to the United States than it is to that as well up and the idea that, because you're He has extensive social programs that it is it is a socialist country is just not true. In the same way, the say. Denmark is a socialist country, except that it has some of the lowest corporate tax rates on planet earth and some of the some of the Laxis business regulations say very high personal income tax rates and they have a social safety net, that's very expensive. They had to cut all of that back because they're bankrupting themselves. So even Germany isn't a good example of how

could have a lasting economic success. A Germany had some economic success in the european context. Compared the economy of the United States is not even close, Cedric says: hey Ben. Do you think any political and moral issue on which the left is closer to the truth than the right well depends on which elements of the right we're talking about. So I would say this: there are certain elements of the right that sort of our libertarian in orientation, not with regard to government, which I think is right, but with regard to human nature this idea that we are all atomistic individuals and that any social standards dangerous, and there is no communal social fabric. You know the last technologies that there's a social fabric. They just think that the government has to force what the social fabric is. So if I have to choose between, the idea that there is a social fabric and there is no social fabric of the social fabric doesn't matter, then I think the social fabric matters. I don't think so. You know in terms of in terms of sort of the role of social fabric. It goes like this libertarians are here and then there's left and then there's the right over here. So the left is actually closer to the right. In

communitarian ideology with regard to social fabric, then hardcore libertarianism, but as far as utilized leftist ideology? I don't think so very much Alex says: what's your favorite food to eat during Thanksgiving, so stuff Here's my thing I will put away like entire pans of stuffing their stuff is in. My mom makes an incredible. Turkey, in fact, my wife, and I are going away for thanksgiving, but we are doing Thanksgiving dinner and evening early because we need to have my mom's cooking. My mom is an excellent cook on March, as God Emperor Shapiro. Let's that's flattering, I guess the claim has been deposed. I run a free speech group on my campus. What is the best? What you say, is the best way to deal with the radical leftist. You try to silence us in Heckler Vent, expose them get out of camera and show them being idiots and then get it to daily wire, and we will put that up and will will them them, because that is one of our joys in life Hey is his beer kosher and if so, what's your beer of choice, so I'm not plain beer is always kosher, beer is not always kosher.

Usually when I'm out I'll order, some of the Heineken or Something Kyle says: According to modern science, humans been around for about one hundred thousand years with the Bible states. We've been here for about seven thousand years, depending on that on an evolution in general. So I am eight, a fundamentalist with regard to time lines in the Bible, particularly in the creation period. So there's a book that I like a lot by getting Gerald Schroeder, I've recommended it on the show before talking about how science melds with the Bible I mean some obvious criticisms of the of the literalist interpretation of biblical dating, pretty clearly, for example, that the Bible says at the very beginning there was there was night and there was day the first day that happens before the earth has been created before the sun has been created. So what is the timeline there? Is that really a twenty four hour period? Or is it something very different? So I don't think that, Bible was meant to be taken supremely literally along those lines, but if you're, yeah. I'm not sure how you would convey that the earth is hundreds of thousands of years old and evolution existed in a document that was that was created. Three thousand.

Years ago from people who had no idea what evolution is. I had no idea what species were had no idea about periods of time and how to explain carbon dating. So I think that God has a bit of a rough road to hoe in terms of communication with human beings, he's always bound by the capacity of human beings understand, which is pretty clear even from the biblical text when Moses said to God. Let me see your face, and God says I can't let you see my face. Girl die. I think that's pretty much correct, perfect Asian between God and man is not a real possibility in the sense that everything is always going to be filtered through the prism of mine, and God knows that Josh says the founders were allowed to do in America has become what do you think they might wish they could go back and change or do differently? Well, I think that the problem. Well, I'm listening. I think. If the founders were alive, today. An you know. Many of them were not raised in a context in which labor is appropriate. They would abolish slavery right off the bat I think they would also be a little bit less sanguine about the power of the judiciary. I think that they would also tremendously oppose the power of the

Brock Recei and they would put restrictions in the constitution against it. But the constitution is pretty good document, I'm not sure what exactly they would change in order to hit what happened, because all of the problems with the constitution in terms of government growth have been specifically variations from the constitution. So that's not the founders embedded. Anything in there that's wrong. They might have taken some of the anti federalist critiques a little bit more seriously about the possibility of growth of federal power, but it's also important to recognize that at the time they were fine. And the articles of confederation, which were the weakest form of government known to man, essentially Ryan, says you have spoken about voting for Represe, nation versus voting from reality, which rather have socialist, saints in office or questionable conservatives, so idea here? Is that you are, you know, should you vote for who is moral but disagrees with you or should vote for somebody who is questionable but agrees with you. So I again I'm going to the false binary that we live in a system where we can select moral men who agree with us, but if, but if the, if by,

Harry is what I rather have people who are as if are personally saints, but vote for socialism verses it would I rather have people who are child molesters, but our, but but agreed me if that is the false minor we are creating. Of course you would have to say that you would vote for the person who most represents your priorities. I get that, but I don't think that that's a binary and I don't think that that is a recipe for at four I repeat election cycle, so here's one of the things that that I said about the twenty sixteen election I'll say it again about Alabama elections, do not exist in a vacuum. There, not one time. Events. The idea that how you vote in this election impacts how the country moves in future elections is a fact. The moral character of a country is built off of repeated trials and errors. Okay, you know get to take one election and take it in crystallize it and say this is the only election that has ever mattered in the history of the world. When you do that, you end up in all the false binaries and that's how you end up with a bunch of bad choices. I think that how

vote in elections, how you decide this makes a difference. So if you were to ask me, is it worth sacrificing one election? So we can have a country, where there's a possibility that everyone requires good people to be in office until next time. I choices in questionable conservative and a socialist, a socialist then that's something that I would add that I think is worth sacrificing for yeah. I think that I think that if we, if we all hold by the standard, then we'll have more saints in office and fewer centers and seem to agree with us in office and your centers who agree with us in office. So you know, and the whole premise of of my logic on this politically is that Sometimes you have to take a short term loss in order to make a long term gain, but I think we live in an era where, if you think that we can take a short term loss, that's the end of the world if we lose something or at the end, it's the or that even the possibility of losing means that we have to vote a certain way. Everything is

this point, a lot of exigent circumstances require you to make bad decisions, and I think that's where we are repeatedly in politics, and I don't think that's where we ought to be Ryan says sorry. Shred, his Lynn, says Ben. If you were given the task runner, the other part of education getting in your way, what would you be teaching students and why so? I would be inculcating virtue, so I would spend some time actually talking about the virtues and why they are important in pursuing him happiness. This is something that we don't teach in high schools anymore. I would also be pushing apprenticeships, as opposed to particular classes in in certain study areas. I think that learning skill sets is actually a lot more important. Sometimes the morning knowledge that you may never use cell virtue is is my is my: can come on and I'll be teaching people that happiness is reliant on you being a virtuous human being, and here are the ways that you can make your life more enlightened and more virtuous Austin's as metal and founders, but agreed with the founders

trade with me. George Washington talks routinely about this being the role of education in a free society. A society that does not inculcate virtue in the young is likely to crumble. When they're Old Austin says Hi Ben is refusing funding to sanctuary cities against the law. If not, how are judges able to block these executive actions? So no, it's not against the law The basic rule, I believe, is that the federal funding must be tied to something that has to do with it being a sanctuary city, so this was rule during. I believe the Reagan era, because Reagan tried to remove federal funding from certain states that were that were not cracking down on drunk driving in the way that he wanted, and so what they said is that the funding that he's removing has to be somehow logically connected to the cause that he's attempting to push you can't just randomly remove all funding for a cause that is unrelated MIKE says: what is the greater overarching causing problem that the sexual assault charges stem from thanks and love? The show

religions, especially your signature. One Dale belong to my son will appreciate Michael is so the greater overarching cause of the sexual assault charges stem from is again failures. Teach virtue, teaching boys not to rape is easy, but if it has no context, if you're not supposed to see if you're not teaching boys in affirmative virtue, then they are likely to fall into temptation more often, the same thing is true for young women, who are being that is it listen. Sexual assault is not the fault of women is the fault of the people who do the sexual assaulting, but your increasing risk. When you tell people that a live teen sexual or in which consent is the only value is likely to lead to happiness that leads to risk your encounters. Can the evil is the fault of the evil doer The riskier encounters are likely to increase the proportion of encounters in which an evil event happened, a router, it says Ben. Would you please explain net neutrality, I've done that before. So I'm going to get that one! You can look back at previous podcasts because I have talked about that length of Christians.

Then I'm a big shot fan of the show from Switzerland, I was wondering. Is there any way in which the US could learn from the swiss healthcare system? I know costs. The money. They seem to be working very well with the individual mandate. Why has the us considered such forms of Christian, as you may have seen in my debate? When I say if you gonna, have a government run system, it should look like this was healthcare system. I think that's right, but I don't think that a government run healthcare system is the best healthcare system, so Switzerland provide universality and quality, but not affordability, it a fortune. It's very, very it's in Switzerland, but is the United States willing to absorb those costs? I'm not sure the United States is willing to absorb those costs. Also, you need to worry about the creation of new products and services, as opposed to the redistribution of existing ones, and a capitalist market is the best way to do that? Ok, so final question here brain says: Ben I'm, twenty two years old married making a good living my wife once a baby is due. I, however, I'm afraid to be a dad, because I didn't have one growing up and don't have all great reference points to go out from my youth. What, if any of your advice on this well Brayden? I think that the fact that you acknowledge this as a problem,

is one of the reasons why it sounds to me like you're, going to be in good shape tablet again, John flaws as a person recognize your own shortcomings in your childhood things you want to do better is a great way to raise kids, because it means that you're going to be thinking. I've said this about. I say this people all the time if you're truly worried that's an if you're truly concerned about your own level of sinfulness, your last less to send that if you're blind about your son and if truly worried about making mistakes. That means you're going to think twice before you make those mistakes, so I would say, is that you sound. I think you and your wife sounds like- would make very good parents, and you know if you're looking for a great reference points, then try to find people who you think are great parents get close to them and try to learn from them. And try to put yourself in situations where you can learn from other men you admire as the and my my dad always said this. When I was growing up that he liked to have friends where I could look up to them. So in my are them and people who treated me well as well. I think that you can do that too, and I think it would be worthwhile thing. Ok, so we will be back here on Monday

Hopefully the world will not implode in our absence. Is gonna be Thanksgiving week next week. So let's try to have a happy week that be nice have a great weekend. I mention here. This is a bunch russia and