Rudy provides a weak defense, Asia Argento is implicated in a #MeToo mess, and Al Sharpton makes an all-time great error.
Date: 08-20-2018
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Rural Giuliani provides a week defence for the President of the United States, Asia.
Argento is implicated in me to mess of her own, making an Al Sharp and makes an astonishingly great tv air, I'm Ben Shapiro,
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there's a lot going on over the weekend. The big story over the weekend is at the New York Times supposedly, is about you break up
open them all our investigation, who everyone very very excited, because this new report from
Hebron and Michael Schmidt, both Pulitzer Prize winners over the New York Times sake.
Ass. The door again, who is present in trumps attorney in the White House, he's the White House, a chief attorney that this guy spoke
to the mother investigation and according to New York Times. This means that Trump is in force
now. Finally, robber
he's going to seize president trumpeted clutches, just as the crasser steam brothers would want the crashed in brothers for Folks Euro nor these people have basically become famous
twitter for tweeting incessantly about president trumpet and then they treated over the weekend, a cartoon, a buff shortlist chip and Dale Robert Mauler, which was real weird. Then, when people commented on it, they treated out. Buff shirt was pictures of himself, which is doubly we're. The left. A sort of obsessed with among our investigation, may get had impression in Europe.
I'm no exception, so here's what they write. President Frumps lawyers do not know. Just how much the White House Council, Donald F, again told the special councils invest,
gaiters during months of interviews elapsed that has contributed to a growing recognition
early strategy. A full cooperation with the inquiry was a potentially
damaging mistake, so this point
We still don't know what Mcgann told the investigators don't worry. We never will nothing in the peace exports as what Mcgann talked in the investigators about or why would be so potentially damaging to the press,
of the United States according to the New York Times, however, the present
lawyers set on Sunday that they were confident that Mr Mcgann heads
nothing injurious to the president during a thirty hours of interviews but missed
again, where has offered only a limited accounting of what Mr Miguel
told the investigators according to two people close to the president, that has prompted concern among Mr Trumps advisers and Mr Miguel statements could help serve as a key component for a damning
report by the special Council Robert Mahler, which the Justice Department could send the Congress according to two people, familiar with the discussions with the suggests is at the moment, restoration is going to come up with
and then there are going to send a report to Congress suggesting that the president acted badly, that while he didn't formerly obstruct justice,
Do they charge that has a very specific meaning and have also
fraction of evidence or attempts to intimate,
witnesses or some sort of witness tampering or perjury the present
haven't done any of those there's nothing to actually show the present has done any of those things. Despite that, they'll send again
Reports of Congress, and then a democratic Congress will be forced to try to impeach mister.
Lawyers realised on Saturday they had not been provided a full accounting after the New York Times published an article describing Mr Term
sense cooperation. Mr Miller's office, after Mister MC
and was initially interviewed by the special Councils office in November Mr Translators,
never asked for a complete description of what Mr Mcgowan it set according to a person close to the present, all of which actually speaks to the idea that Trump didn't feel like a lot to fear from already
he let his lawyer over the White House go and talk to mature enough to do that. You couldn't just claimed executive privilege.
Could have claimed that there is a turning client privilege. He couldn't claimed a lot of things that would have prevented
Again from actually haven't you go talk with Mahler into any of those things which suggests that trumped up
feel, like you really has all that much too high and then
at times continues in this vein
Very long time means that pages and pages of of writing on this and
there's, really nothing that comes out from it. Basically, the only thing comes
from his them again, people are sort of leaking to the press. It appears that Trump set up again for a possible destruction charge and some again was talking about. That's that's me
suggestions in the actual article is that the only thing of relevance here is that Mcgann felt pressured by Trump and therefore he won't talk to the investigator. So here is yours within Europe,
I'm says in its article the Times and Mr Miguel, at your detailed accounts, about the episodes at the heart of the investigation into whether Mr Trump obstructed justice in the rush hour inquiry some of the episodes, like MR terms
attempt to fire Mr Miller last summer would not have been revealed to investigators without Mr Mc Ganz help the articles
If a scramble on Saturday among Mr Trumps, lawyers and advisers, the president sequestered in his private golf club in bed, Minster, New Jersey
visited opinions from a small group of advisers and the possible repercussions from the article. The present
or Mr Giuliani to tell report as the article is wrong, but Mr Giuliani did not go that far in his television appearances, as will see ritually only one. A national tv into the president really has nothing to hide. Apparently Trump won him to go out and say that the articles were wrong in all of their major facts, which apparently was not true in the end. Is there a lot here? Not really not. Really, president from lashed out on twitter here is what president from had to say about the article is at the failing new Tabs Rudy Big Piece today: impact that, because what has council done began was giving out
where's of testimony to the special council. He must be a John Dene type rack, but I allowed him and all others to testify I didn't have to. I have nothing to hide. Its people are picking on the fact that from himself,
is suggesting the John Dene was a rap for those who don't know. John Dene was a White House attorney under Nixon. You want you talked of war
get investigators and it was very damaging to President Nixon. But what for?
is actually saying here. Is people jumping all over
he's not wrong right here.
Damn again to go and ask where people are saying at the New York Times that prompted this? Basically because he's ignorant and so will. I began to talk to Mahler but again. So why is that
that's the opposite of obstruction. That's him actually allowing his own people to go and talk with them or investigation by the way half a dozen people inside the administration.
Marty talked in smaller investigation with a lot of people for hours at a time, and you know what I'm not sure they're gonna come up with anything but trumpets frustrated, and I think that that's not completely
ass, though off the rails. He continues along these lines. You says they demanded. Transparency, said the rigged and disgusting which can
to close, so many lives have been ruined over nothing Mccarthyism at its worst yet Miller and his gang of gems refused to look at the real crimes on the other side media.
Again. I understand my trunk is upset about this. He said my lawyer went and talk to mother and you,
I wouldn't talk to mother and you guys are yelling at me for that and saying that I'm obstructing, even though MIKE I wouldn't talk only from his role.
Coming from his wrong again that led the need these sort of implication. That Trump is trying to hide. Something only allows the council to go and talk with with smaller investigation.
Is a weird one. Nonetheless, running Giuliani was out there. Making the rounds and sort of demonstrating that tromp was is upset about the
media coverage and Giuliani is just not good. Representative for the president is one. The big problems with representing president Trump is that every turn you who is representing the trump ends up being
I dropped from goes on twitter and then blast out what he thinks anyway,
Rudy Giuliani, however, makes things
where's, regionally Ani deserve the straw that stirs the drink. When it comes to media coverage, he was talking them again,
makes a good one bam again and then gets to some much worse points. There's really Giuliani over the weekend with Chuck taught about of NBC, don't know about two percent of what he just fight to do. I remember, I think, fit
through through through John Dad, we have a pretty good sense and giant out yesterday said I'll uses
words rather than mine, that Mcgann,
the strong witness for the president. So
need to know much more about that. They sell it
I was a strong one is for the president and again went and talk to the special council and in the end the special council has to prove obstruction by the federal, not intend not intend to obstruct actual obstruction. Andrew Mccarthy makes this great point over national unity. Obstruction is an actual statutory crime. If you're going to prove obstruction, you have to prove that the present actually took acts designed to stop or metal with the investigation. There is nothing to suggest you actually took these acts, he said stuff but saying stuff does not constitute obstruction. The present has the ability to say,
as much stuff as he wants. You just can't commit perjury and he can't actually engaging witness intimidation. That's not the same thing. A Giuliani then goes on says: Robber Mahler is panicking
this time again we chose it. Here's work Giuliani starts to shade over
into a little bit of icy territory. It could be Mcgann,
and began not join it and
we have done a long time ago. If he's going to do it, they are down to desperation time, they have to write a report and they don't have a single bit of ev,
so it is very possible. The mother has no evidence that New York Times Report, however, looks like a leak from again steam. It looks like Mcgann is leading to the press at the
and then he talked Mahler is because he was afraid of being hung out to dry
weird if that link was coming from Tee Mahler their sentences in the report that appear that it makes it look like it's from Mcgann,
and then Juliana gets himself in the biggest trouble about now. What Giuliani says in this particular equip is gonna, be wildly missing
what'd, I dont think Giuliani is completely wrong, but expressed in the worst possible way and
in a second I'm to talk about why the sort of stuff matters, and when you tell me that you know he should just
Why? Because she's going to tell the truth, they should worry. Well, that's so silly because
its somebody's version of the truth, not the truth. He didn't have a
a conversation this around I don't mean to go like. I know what is in truth through those. In truth, the president- and I says I didn't
is for its Mr Mer: do you realize what
No, no don't do don't do this. To me. Ok here is the problem with with renewed Giuliani what he said.
Is not wrong when he says that there is such a thing as a perjury trap that if I tell the truth in front of Robber Mueller, I still may be brought upon obstruction charges. I still maybe brought upon perjury charges because it's possible there to people who are telling
four and sides of the same story, and one of them sees it a different way and therefore perjury charge emerges he's not
Roll about that boy says sentences. Like truth, isn't truth that is not going to
in any way. Outta Giuliani is just not good representative of the president when it comes to the source.
What we should be saying is
No lawyer worth his salt would put his client in front of a of a motivated prosecutor determined to rack that guy up on perjury charges or obstruction charges. No one would do that, particularly not a president whose
that's being off the cuff. So even if the present is in general telling the truth, and it makes a slight slip up, mowers, gonna grab, and not only that questions can be asked that are specifically designed to elicit a particular response that makes you subject to perjury. A good prosecutor can do this sort of stuff, but, in truth, is in truth, obviously lends itself.
The idea that the Trump Administration is being deeply dishonest about all the stuff. Now the irony is that they, because the Trump Administration has been dishonest about
So many things regarding the Russia Investigation from the outset, its obscuring the larger point, which is that Trump, I think, is probably telling the
truth when he says there is no collusion, but this stuff does have consequences. Emory explain in just a second first: let's
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going to be dependent on what mother comes out with, so for all the media formulation for two years of media fermentation. All it's gonna be
what's in the final report, I have a feeling: he's can be a lot weaker than anybody thinks it's going to be on the left. I think that it still going to be damning of president Trump in terms of his own person.
Behaviour- and I only much- has come out of it and she's going to be reinstated. Server restating of stuff people already knew the big problem. However,
is that when we Giuliani goes on tv and says things like truth, isn't truth all its doing is
underscoring the dishonesty of the Trump Administration time and time again during the russian collusion investigation. The broader point, the trumpets making. I did not collude with the Russians to change the effects of the election. I think is probably true, because there has not been evidence presented yet to show that the term campaign actively colluded with the Russians in shifting the election. There's attempt there is intense, that's not
the same thing as active collusion and coordination to violate the law. In pursuit of changing
electoral result, but because the administration, because the term campaign was so dishonest and other Trump Tower meeting
for example, because regionally Ani has shifted his story multiple times, it makes trumpet dishonest and it occurs to me what a problem. As yesterday I took my wife for her birthday glass blowing, so we'd never done this before and in my sister actually suggested, as we like to do so of arts and crafts sorts of things with this, it is a new thing we like to do
Experiences for birthdays and anniversaries. Instead of me just getting her a nice piece of jewellery or in
we're getting frontispiece ensure we're, but in any case we decide to go glass. Boeing and women is teaching. The class is
course, as you imagine, in LOS Angeles somebody who's very much on the left, and we start talking about politics because she brings it up. I was not all that interested, but she wanted to, and she started talking about politics and she started talking about what a bad guy Trump was, and I said, but we his policies, really him hurt you
in any way. In fact, the economies than bring good you're his policies are our stuff that you kind of like just you know. Well, scientists like that might pens that my pension
just terrible, and while I knowed vice president pansies, actually kind of a nice fat and the idea that he has some sort of grave Grand Thea crap attempting to govern you from above. I just don't think that's true, and then she starts norms
in which were caught up and after a little while others, it occurred to me, the policy just doesn't matter when it comes to people voting the vast majority of people vote and think based on their personal, like or dislike of particular people and candidates, people to think in terms of policy people don't think in terms of truth or falsehood in the russian collusion investigation
they think is, is trump dishonest or is trumped, not dishonest, and so even if rooted Giuliani is not wrong about perjury traps and Robert Mahler, when you represent the worst face to the,
public, that has serious electoral consequences that stuff that doesn't get brushed under the rob when it comes time for people to develop. The grand perception of president trumpeted dishonest guy is not going to be dissipated by the
constant remuneration by his council, Rooney Giuliani of that sort of dishonesty and that feeling of dishonesty. It's this miasma of bad stuff surrounding the Trump administration that does more harm
the actual criminality, I think, there's actual any criminality when it comes right down to earth and meanwhile the media
course have every interest in blowing up everything bad about President Trump, too
inordinate heights of outrage and that's not helping either so
media continue to take very seriously Amro semantic Alt, even though she has had nothing nets. What's really astonishing about the amorous manacled story. So,
moreover, is going around talking incessantly,
about all the tapes? She has just not released one seriously damning thing about the Trump administration. Surely hasn't?
they all. She said the cheating get along. The trumps can get along with John Kelly, and now she said,
tromp was a racist. After spending years talking bout, wonderful president from was, and how
literally bow before him.
He's going around and she's straight,
in no respect from the media, so she's got most of that strange, nor respect courtesy of the folks over places like em up
we see it in a grand meeting of minds, Al Sharp
and had on Amargosa on Amazon
busy over the weekend and they were talking.
About race from El Sharp
a man who is legitimately participated in the inception of race riots in places like New York morals are talking with Alice, sharpen race, pater par excellence, about why Donald Trump he's gonna start erase war. We have a lot to lose and in fact
we're losing right now, because Donald Trump is disingenuous about his engage,
and his outrage. In fact, I believe he wants to start a race
war in this country for a lady who was fired from the ministries and did not quit it's pretty wild for it. It's just a trump wants to start a race one. The country is particularly rich
to me saying this way: guy who legitimately has started race riots in the United States, who are least allegedly been involved with the inception of those rights rights, particularly the ninety ninety one race, right and crown heights. That claim the wife of orthodox true. But I guess that the media have to be treated with respect, or else Europe and certainly
to be treated with respect. The worst Boucherie avail, sharpens weaken was not actually his interview with America is the lead up to him
view with Amr Rosa. This is real, I'm not making this up. This is a thing that actually happened on national television. Is it fair to say I'll sharpness a dummy,
think that, based on clips like us, they, the ongoing battle between Al Shopton in his teleprompter, is one of the great battles in human history.
I mean really is like that, it's like the battle of stalling
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That's what it means to our sharpen just been tasks successfully and imagine why folks don't take the media seriously. But again the media continue to do for trade. The trumpet ministration has a place in flux and cast. It continue to give lots of respect to people like John Brennan, a guy who wide to Congress a guy who is involved in basically smuggling classified information over to John over to Harry Red in the Senate. So he can make trouble
I therefore during the last campaign here was John Brennan on National TV. Talking about from is treasonous and media
are all in on. The idea that Trump is is a treason. Treason is the reason again. This is relevant is because the Trump team has to fight back on that perception and making batteries with Rudy Giuliani is not the way to do this. I called his behavior
is wishes to betray ones, trust and to aid and abet the enemy, and I stand very much by that claim
You are the former Zaire director, accusing the sitting. President United State- that's that's monument
It's a monumental accusation.
Well. I think these are abnormal times and I think a lot of people who have spoken out against what MR from has done- and maybe it's my my
warning. Training is an intelligent professional. I have seen the lights blinking read in terms of what Mr Trump has done and is doing now, it's possible that can go too far, even if it laughed so James Clapper, who was
a former head of these yea. I believe under underwear,
Obama clapper actually started talking his former director of national intelligence under President Obama. Even he says that that Brennan has gone too far here. So even as the
tromp campaign, the Trump team regionally Ani fail on airlines,
turn left or failing on their right, so so John Brown
and starts ripping into James Glapthorne, his exactly correct order. The opposite, clapper start working on Brennan his exactly writer
John, is sort like a freight train and he's gonna say what's on his mind, but John and
his rhetoric have become, I think, an issue in and of itself subject great stuff there. The fact is that the left are attacking themselves over how far they can go over president. From again the focal point of politics has become. The president of the United States is the job of the president of the United States to make itself more popular. It's the job of the left, to make it more unpopular.
Every time left goes too far. It makes front more popular every thought. Every time president Trump sends out Rudy Giuliani to botched the message on national television. It makes trump less popular. That is the battle. That's going on. It's a battle of incompetence, people beating each other with sticks
it's! It's really. A clown show out there on the highest possible level,
only way ever gonna ever gonna get sorted out is the next ballot box, and that is a problem for they because again, the president's
Popularity. Writing is not as high as it should be right now, given the geopolitical situation. Ok, injustice. Second, our
to talk about the need to move in and whether it has foundering on the rocks of its own radicalism, first, let's talk about your say,
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of the weekend is that Asia Argento, who is one of the lead figure
and the major movement it turns out that she was actually involved in paying off as seventeen
in your old for sexually assaulted him in California hotel room here, is
story from the New York Times italian actress and director.
Argento was among the four
women in the movie business, to publicly accuse the producer Harvey Wine scene of sexual assault, she became a leading figures in the hashtag me to movement. Her boyfriend,
military television star, Anthony Bourdain, eagerly joined the fight, but in the months that follow,
Four revelations about Mr Wine steam last October, Miss Argento
quietly arranged to pay three hundred
Eighty thousand dollars to her own accuser, Jimmy Bennet,
after a rock musician said: she'd sexually assaulted him in a telephone
hotel room years earlier, when he was only two months past the seventeenth birthday, which would be statutory rape. She was thirty. Seven, the age of
sensing. California is eighteen that claim in the subsequent arrangement, for payments are laid out in time
payments between lawyers from Argento, Mister Bennet, a former trial
everyone's played. Her son in a movie, the documents which were sent to the New York Times through encrypted email by an unidentified power,
Eddie included Selfie did in May nine thousand thirteen of the two lying in bed as part of the agreement, Mister Bennet, who is now twenty two gave the photograph and its copyright to Miss Argento. Now forty two three people familiar with the case, said the documents were authentic, miss our centres in representative
have not responded to any of this. Mister Bennett who lives in LOS Angeles will not agree to be interviewed,
he set his lawyer Gordon Sacho in the coming days,
admiral, wrote in an email. Jimmy will continue doing what he's been doing over the past months and years, focusing on his music. Mister Bennet is a child's actor who charms Harrison. Foreign Bruce was earned a nickname. Jimmy too takes because you rarely flood these lines. The two thousand thirteen
hotel them in council is a betrayal that precipitated a spiral of emotional problems. According to documents, the followed from a sexual battery,
was so dramatic unhindered? Mister Bennet, Workin income threatened him
mental health, missed Argento, subsequently turned to Miss Colebrook was aware to handle the case. Mr Bennets noticing
TAT S for three point: five million dollars and damages the intentional, and
election of emotional distress, lost wages, assault and battery Mister Bennet me,
and more than two point: seven million in the five years before the two thousand thirteen meeting with Miss Argento. His income has since dropped to an average of sixty grand a year, and he had tributes that to the trauma. With regard to this particular incident,
so that's really really ugly stuff. Not a lot of people are using this to try and discredit the broader me to movement, suggesting that, if a
Argento has been responsible for the sort of sexual battery herself and covered it up that the credibility of some of the leaders of each movement is compromised. There is no question that her credibility,
is compromised, but the idea of the need to move at, which is that sexual assault is bad, is obviously true.
Again, radicalism tends to discredit the main idea.
Is underlying some good movement,
in what we're seeing in politics. What were also seeing with cases like the meteor movement, speaking of radicalism,
there's an article in the New York Times again, the it's amazing, the most motivated people, most motivated people in life, tend to be the people for radical. Those also tends to be be the people
almost most likely to undermine the mainstream credibility of their own message, most people if
move on. Issues want to be moved incrementally they don't want to have things shoved in their face. They
want radical shift in the way they think about things around
was by nature, want to shift things radically. The way people think about things. The problem is
radicals very often end up alien
in the very people that they seek to draw in. The latest
people from the New York Times there's a full art,
in the New York Times, I'm not getting it. It's by a wonderful person named son are now
is a man or woman. The article is settled witchcraft in the meat to era. If you want to make the case for me to leave your make the case against sexual assault, you probably don't want to start with witchcraft
witchcraft and me to actually basically the plot of the crucible by our familiar, but there are times reports thusly in a secluded nook of central Park,
teen witches student circle on cloudless Saturday, eyes, closed chanting, a makeshift alter on the forest floor.
A lantern, a silver chalice above water, a jar of salt, sunflower, a wand, Denise Croce high priestess of the north, will would coven and her coven made Joanne fairer.
Guided the group through midsummer, an annual ritual celebrating the summer solstice inability white screen flip flops. Miss Creasy resembled a free spirited flower show that you have the romance that the New York Times gives witchcraft and people who are crazy because there are part of a coven I do other. Did they don't talk this way about jewish ritual, their tongues
about catholic ritual, that was how will our protestant ritual, but a bunch of nuts gathering the Middle Central park, get this sort of treatment from the New York Times. Then they wonder why? Maybe the meat to movement is stalling out alone,
but here we undermine our credibility by
embracing radical silliness. This is sort of what happens in the temple of the spiral path which includes the north, willed, wood and stranger gate.
Covent has performed rituals and is clearing known among the witches as the green cathedral for twenty years. The worshipper set
cross legged around a circle of flowers, dried kaluza, chemical lavender and rose petals carefully arranged in a spiral. Miss Creasy led them through meditation. Then they slowly join hands, began singing and one by
one they entered the spiral, their dancing crew increasingly raucous as they Anton. We are a circle moving. Why
and with another we are moving to get
there. We are one in such a lot,
Jim diversities as the New York Times. It is no surprise that the craft is fairly accessible. If you know where to look, nearly eight
it covers and pagan organisations operate in the New York metropolitan area. According to the pagan networking site, the witches voice, which sounds
white awesome nationally about seven hundred and thirty. Four thousand Americans identifies pagan or weaken according to a two thousand fourteen pew
research survey which,
Fewer than the number of people listen to the show daily sense that he's a click. Ok.
Urging mass movement all across the country. Apparently, ten thousand, which is live in practice in New York, are not a means to practice witchcraft. I guess that you do like you write a broom. In any case, this sort of this sort of thing.
Is not, I think, good, for association with the media movement by radical
I'm always tends to draw a bunch of people who are the most enthusiast.
And we're seeing it in our politics as well sourcing with me to movement, as some of its leaders are some those morally question
the ball and radical people, even though the Medes movement has an underlying good points to make we're seeing it also with regard to our politics, where the most radical people from both sides are tending to hijack movements that actually have some incredible
ready to them on the right. Yet people like Kelly Ward Kelly WAR, is running a primary in Arizona right now against Martha Mcnally. Martha Mcnally is a much better candidate she's, a representative from Arizona former AIR Force Colonel, I believe who is the first woman to flying combat if I'm not mistaken, hurt her
record is pretty sterling? Martha maximum establishes Ricans, Kelly Ward, who is tenable, nutcase and Kelly WAR is right
around toying with MIKE Servage, a guy who is most famous for promoting pizza gate,
he's on MSNBC and she's, promoting her candidacy by saying
then she doesn't know who make certain that use audiences which wants to appeal to them. Also, it's very
easy for radicals to get a lot of attention and Kelly Warders is getting a lot of attention specifically, because folks on the left
an interesting elevating her and also because radicals again, our summit most
outspoken in Loudon entertaining people in Amerika. I mean MIKE's.
Which has an audience that we want to
reach, and that includes Republicans conservatives, liberals Democrats,
people of all ills, and so, if he's coming on the bus tour, I think that here we have a voice and it will have something that he wants to say. Meanwhile, on left, what you're seeing is the complete seduction of the Democratic Party into hard core actual socialism, even though they would actually define
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say. Every major movement in the United States right now is in danger of being taken over by radicals, because radicals when most motivated part of any base
talk about the process of renewal mobilization before on the show is a term that that was used by the
red skin in the game, nuts him Nicholas Tab. I did the basic idea. Is this big groups tend to surrender to small groups of very motivated people? That's the way life works. If you are,
family and one daughter is vague and very soon you will all be eating vision, because mom or dad does not want to bother with actually making two separate centres for everybody, one meat in one big, and instead everybody will just
vegan and suddenly the wholesale
he has begun, and then, when that family
to a party in the whole families began, the entire party becomes began because a lot easier and cheaper, the transaction costs of having to cook to meals is higher than the transaction costs
just going along with the most radical people in any part of the base you wanna say
by the base, because the bases the loudest and the most polarized. Do you see this with regard to me to movement where every accusation
has to be taken with equal seriousness, no matter how stupid, no matter, how unjust, which is bad for me,
to move there, because it undermines the credibility of the meeting movement. You ve seen it with regard to the right, where a lot of folks who should not be given
inability had been given credibility because they are the most motivated and are now seen
and on the part of the left, where democratic
socialists are taking over the mainstream Democratic Party, because the Democratic Party wants to cater to its most motivated based the people who go out and knock on doors. So listen
brooding, who is the in house Socialist over the Washington Post, her husband map running that? But unless people I've talked to
who always Matt, seems like a nice guy both.
Our socialist not run something public policy, public policy institute, which is which is a bible once you three pushing social,
wasn't, but not really. Social is what kind of pushing nordic socialism, which is not quite the same thing, was
The ruling has a column today about whites times
reclaimed socialism from the dirty word category. The problem for her is that she actually doesn't want to
I'm what socialism is, because socialism is inherently radical. You can
socialism. However, you want some
define socialism as stuff. I like from the nordic countries, and some people define it as getting rid of the profit motive, which is how the democratic socialism America do
The goal of socialists is to pretend they are not what they are, which is radical. So here's Elizabeth Burnings, column and you'll see how she sort of obfuscate in the terminology see using in order to come
for her own radical agendas and here's what she says. A gallop pull this month founded Democrats warmly
That's the idea of socialism, or at least to the word, while fifty seven percent of Democrats
pulled said they do socialism positively. Only forty six
percent of the same of capitalism, down from fifty six percent in twenty sixteen,
Republicans meanwhile remain pretty enthusiastic about capitalism with seventy one percent rating. It positively still sixteen percent of GNP.
Voters said they even you, socialism, through a friendly ones, which raises the question
an american say. They view socialism, one where the other, what exactly
I have in mind, the United States doesn't have a firm
Oh you're established socialist history to look too for guidance on what socialism
I mean in this country, was actually true. There was a socialist workers movement led by Eugene Debs in their early twentieth century that actually become relatively pop.
Large, and that's because it was full scale nationalization of industry socialist.
Generally means that the government runs the economy at a centralized planning. The central planning from the top of the economy, including up to and including force
I'll nationalization of resources without regard to profit. Motive now would be sort of the usual mechanism by which socialism runs. What the left has tended to do is redefine socialism, as
capitalism with some socialist redistribution is policies on top. So what's weird
now. That is John. Take, for example, John Rockefeller, so the rocket
our family earn an enormous enormous amounts of money in capitalism
then they gave an enormous amount of money to charity where they can
us or socialist. I would say there are capitalists who gave the charity, perhaps if you're going to say that charter.
Giving forced by the government of socialism what you would say that the Rockefellers were actually socialists
they used capitalism in order to create this enormous,
Well, then, they redistributed the wealth without
he is the growth engine. Is capitalism and the redistributive mechanism is socialism, and this is why breaking down each particular policy is sort of important, so we can determine whether a policy is good but calling entire kind
we Socialists for capitalist unless you're talking about Cuba,
it is entirely socialist- makes very little sense.
That's not where brooding goes what she does. Instead, she refuses to define the term. She says the United States does,
have a familiar established socialist history to look do for guidance on what socialism might mean in this country.
But that doesn't mean socialism is hopelessly nebulous or that Americans,
our interest in the idea are wandering gamblers. It just means that
socialism, like any sophisticated term, warrants thoughtful consideration.
Socialism has many different things to different people in different times and places while maintaining a stable core themes and objectives, social as opposed to private control of the means of production or can now.
He's talking bout nationalization. You would think about all this.
Idle humanitarian and political economic changes that entails a special
our freedom and autonomy of working people are concerned again. This extraordinarily vague because of you.
Does that mean nationalization shall say what maybe and then, if you so what
Does that mean that workers are supposed to take over the factory?
Well, maybe, but it's not specific enough for us to actually Dignan,
So what she's doing is smart because she's attempting to guys radicalism in this sort of vague, incremental ism,
the term itself. Socialism came into being
in the early decades of the nineteenth century and, like any good word, inspired a great deal of imagination for the non
in english socialism. Eighteen forties, sir,
She was a mainly meant opposition to the competitive, dehumanizing, effective, liberal economies, local experiments with
communitarianism and cooperatives and demands for the privileges of
mortality and participation in government to extends and lower classes, none of which would actually define
as socialism per se because of you and your family decide to get together and do a co op. That's not quite socialism, if its price
if she's. Meanwhile, Marty and socialism folks focused on the conditions of production who owns what
the relationship between wage earners and owners and how stuff gets made into society and the kind of politics. These condition
produce, even when socialism was a relatively new term. In other words its exact meaning, was disputed, and what burning is
are we going to do here is obscure that there is such a thing as socialism. Instead, what she's going to do just claim that all the stuff she likes to socialism and other stuff she doesn't like is not socialism
which is a smart way of sort of assuring socialism into the mainstream, but it's also a dishonest way and explain more in just one second, so burning continue. She talked about
Now, as in the nineteenth century, confusion about what socialism means is stoked by political and
Kristen clouding the issue, as our gloves notes in you
magazine. Conservative centre oscillated.
In arguing that successful countries such as Finland, Norway and Denmark, generally
targeted socialists, are actually is capitalist. As the United States and claiming spots business network,
Although scandinavian countries are based on a foundation of capitalism, there is no question that what earns the profits in Finland, Norway and Denmark is not their socialist means of production. It is
are based on a foundation of capitalism that no question that the all in Finland,
When Denmark is not their socialist means of production, it is profit seeking incentives. That is what is created. All growth curve in scandinavian countries
for as long as human history, because socialism has never created serious growth in any country, state sponsored capitalism,
is merely the state using capitalistic profit seeking methods in order subsidize particular industries which creates growth in those industries, but sucks growth. Out of other industries, but social
with them is the idea that the profit motive does matter and we ought to redistribute all resources again, obscuring the terminal,
Energy is an easy way of preventing people from understanding what socialist means I like that Elizabeth Burning concludes this way,
find exactly what socialism means once and for all likely won't happen anytime soon, but that doesn't mean
Orders were attracted to democratic socialist politician, such a centre, Bernie Sanders and House Canada.
Alexandria, Abkhazia, Cortez, dont, know
we're getting into proposals to wipe out the show
alright to work laws, may college tuition free or provide universal health care are
in writing with those support at the heart of this
what kind of socialist nation. Finally, she gets your definition after all, that here is our definition of socialism at the heart of the democratic, so
was vision. Flowers on the american left is the.
Recognition that more than policy twigs will be needed.
When power everyday people to participate meaningfully.
In society and democracy. This is where she strips finally away and what we are left with is radicalism,
the radicalism at the heart of this programme taking over the Democratic party. Now you have to hide it
is really what's going on. She's working there
hence deserve a say in how the country's vast wealth will be used, its not the country's vast wealth. It is wealth earned by individuals who are working hard.
And playing by the rules and employing other individuals by treating all wealth is a collective is the way that you actually get to. I did methods.
Direct line between the country owns all the wealth and the gulags actually relatively short working there
hence deserve a say in how the country's vast wealth will be used, and that will be possible only when inequality is reduced.
Corporate and big money donors are banished from politics and law makers are truly accountable to the people is not so much to ask
but democratic socialist are the only one asking which of course, is not true. When you talk about corporate and big
many donors being banished from politics. I assume she's not
talking about the Washington Post, which is a giant corporation involved in politics all the time, I should not talking about her husband's public policy institute, which is deeply in,
in taking large relations, I assume from donors within which to promulgate a political agenda and when she says lawmakers being fully accountable to the people. It seems to me that the tea party was asking for exactly the same thing:
central to the country still is so group of people in the country who wished to have intelligent conversation
pretending that they are not radical, but then, at the end, stripping away. All of this in favour of their radicalism is why it's important to identify a thing that that there is a common sense or to the country still, if so, group of people in my country who wish to have intelligent conversation about actual terminology. But that can only happen when we get down to the actual route of the issues
If we want to have a discussion about me too, to it account all be about Harvey Weinstein's and Asia
Argento. Instead, it's gotta be about what social standards we wished to purvey when it comes to sex and sexual
we can have an honest conversation about what conservatives and looks like, but they cannot be a con
station about whether MIKE sort of which and his crew
our catering to
We can have an honest conversation even about the the lengths to which we
redistribute resources in the United States. I think very little that a lot of people think a lot more, but we can't do
that so long as people are of advocating and hiding all this
the rubric of democratic socialism, because what they mean is being deliberately obscured. The radicals are taking over
a lot of areas of american life because there are the loudest and because they shout the loudest and because they most media attention and because both
I have an interest in highlighting the most radical people on the other side. In order to clarify the distinctions between site,
the only are going to have a common conversation. Is we get down to the roots of actual terminology and
plain what mean because then we can actually discuss what works and what does it? But people have a real interest in being
Radicals they won't be well guiding it in the language. Broader movements, age, Argento and company have an interest in
no radical agenda and guiding it as meat. You broadly witchcraft, and me too, it's all the same thing. That's foolish. Take inflation of good ideas of bad ideas or conflicting
ideas we can all agree about with radical ideas, is the way that politics ends.
Becoming polarizing radicalizing. Then we have no common centre for us to have a conversation anymore, ok time for some things I like and then we'll get you some things that I hate so things I like I'm recommending is but a little butter elites, but by Orange,
cast link amount. I believe two November by computer right now is how the ones in future work now
captain. I disagree on elements regarding free trade, for example, he's a lot more trade restrictions in certain ways, he's still in favour of trade, but he's more trade restrictions than I am in certain ways, although I think he might argue he's more free trade than I think he is, he is a really good thing or over them
and had an institute who talked about why it is that certain jobs in United States in the manufacturing base particularly have been hollowed out. His suggestion is that it has something to do with technology, but it has more to do with the fact that we have made our business environment uncompetitive through environmental regulation in certain areas and
union contracts as governed by the National Labour Relations ACT. He makes the case for actual adoption of certain european styles with regard to, for example, unions and education, and this is the part that really fascinating. There are good conversations to be had about why there is less incoming
quality in certain areas of Europe or why education is better in Sweden than it is in the United States. No one wants to have those actual.
Relations. Instead, we all wanted to bumper sticker stuff about why Sweden is spending so much of its gdp,
the government redistribution ism. Why not? Instead look at what we are actually doing with regard educate
in southern Sweden. Everybody is trapped, so, for example, in the United States there are no tracks right. We'll go.
Same classes and then we get to decide whether to go to college and every
he has the opportunity to go to college in Sweden in Israel in a lot of other countries, what they do,
who is by the time? You are an eighth grade, your basically deciding
The person was ready for college or person not ready to go to college. If they're not ready for cars,
you get them an apprenticeship programme where they are.
We are learning practical skills for job they're going to do now. We can move between tracks you're, not stuck there forever. Isn't it. We just trap you in there, but you actually have to achieve to move
one track to another, and you also have to seriously think
now, whether everybody is fit for college in the United States, the model seems to be, if you don't go to and why you for any reason, then you are going to be poor and that's foolish. This foolish would be better off if a lot of the folks we're not going to college. The college demonstrates, by the way I've been pretty stable in the United States for a fair bit a time in this, because there are lots of people who just aren't ready for college instead, army prep for a job or cast talks about a lot of these sort of policy solutions that nobody wants to talk about. The book is well worth reading its once in future worker go check it out right now, it's a sophisticated taken, a lot of deep policy issues,
an worth checking out. Ok time for a couple of things that I hate says I mentioned earlier
I was a little there there's a lot of people on the left, who are deep believers that character
that defining issue in politics, except when it comes to people on their own side, and this means that they are going to be
radical as they want to be sought. Lissom Olano tweeted this out over the weekend she treated picture of herself and what looks
a little red riding hood costume? I shouldn't even twinning afford to go, get the full handmaids tail costumes short. Aren't you got a little red riding a costume and she put it on and then she
tweeted out holding assignments, has never Kavanaugh, never Gillian, because Justice Cabinet Justice Cavanaugh
the Supreme Court would apparently usher in the area which women who just essentially birth mothers who raped well, because that's what justice cabinets all about I mean, if you hadn't noticed. That's clearly is his deal and shoot out. Hashtag rise up for Ro Hashtag. We are not property, hashtag stop Cavenaugh. The character assassination is is pretty astonishing and somewhat hilarious, but demonstrative of of how people on the
I really want to see their political opponents. People on the right, you the same thing with regard to their political opponents. You everybody is a demon, everybody's, a devil, but I think right now, the level of you
innovation on the left of the right is a lot higher than the demonization of the right, but of the right to the left eye. So anyway,
she's, not the only one bill MAR over the weekend. I he says that President trumpets, he is obviously a russian asset. It's not! The president from is a facets
at the present interim it. I am now asked Bill Martha on his programme. Is trumpet do face or is he and evil genius and Mars answer was he's Hitler, which was weird answer, but Bill MAR is now saying it is obvious that president trumpets, russian ass at this sort of character assassination is dishonest. It somewhat effective in making the radical based more pumped up if the rabbit, if pumping up the radical basis, all politics is gonna, become all common conversation. Those way here's mar pumping up the radical base,
sorry, but its super obvious already. He is a russian asked that this has been going on since the eighty stay retargeting for this and Bob Mullahs reported
gonna be what this movie and this book is yes by hopes
even more era? Is it's going to be foolproof? Ok, so that that it and that's the great hope, is that trouble be ousted by the Mulder Report and the left sees modest sweeping in none of this is good for american politics. This is why the president would be well served to sort of go silence on Mahler stuff until what happens actually happens, but there
where politics is moving. This is this is deeply disturbing part about politics. The radicals are getting louder the people who want to have honest
relations and actually drill down into terminology are being obscured by folks. You don't wanna have conversation, they just want to roll up their own base, because every election is now about base politics. The media are taking up
In this, the worst story of the weekend from the media was this me a freaked out of a guy named,
all our own alarm. Thirty six was detained at a gas station in San Bernardino, where kids
Why, for on their way to the hospital for her c section reportedly had been living in the United States illegally for twelve,
Here's an entire media one, not how dare this happen. Kyle Griffin, this report
I believe, over an embassy he's, an ice detained, a man while his driving is pregnant wife to the hospital he was taken when they stopped for gas
and they quoted his writing. My husband needs to be here. He had to wait for him.
For so long and someone just took him away. Daniel Dale who
and is a writer, for I believe, some about the Toronto star. He says the same thing:
I always so awful how dear ice, detainees, people representative Joe Kennedy said: there's heartless and there's whatever
the hell. This is when the Kennedy family should know about heartless, leaving woman's
dying air bubbles on top of a car is not exactly showing a lot of heart, but the entire
media go nuts over all of this. There is only one problem with this story. It turns out the guy who's arrested was arrested because he suspected of murder
hey, there's an outstanding warrant for his arrest in Mexico on homicide charges. So this isn't they just decided to pick up a guy who's
illegal immigrants and a gas station while he driving his wife to the hospital for a c section. The guy is legitimately a suspected homicide. Perpetrator so well done media again driving politics to the to its best, having possible course. Ok time for a federalist paper, so getting back to the foundations of the country and the philosophy that is supported it we go through a federalist paper every week. This week's federalist paper is federalist. Forty two is the second most cited federalist paper in all quarters prudence. I believe, after Federalist, seventy eight, which will eventually get too
James Madison wrote this one. You talked about the powers of the federal government, including the power to control foreign policy entreaties, and why the federal government ought to have these power. There is one particular section that is worth reading, and that is the section in which James Madison talks about the constitution
And its designs toward slavery, so where the great lies that has been perpetrated by the political left in the United States for a long time is that the constitution was designed to enshrine slavery. The constitution was designed to gradually kill slavery,
here is James Madison, describing it isn't. Just me saying this is James Madison writing at the time it were doubtless to be wished that the power of prey
opening the importation of slaves had not been postponed until the year. Eighteen, oh eight
or rather than had been suffered to have immediate operation, and he saying I would rather, if we just gotten rid of the importation of slaves like now, but it is not difficult to account either for this
friction on the general government or for that matter in which the whole clauses expressed. It ought to be considered as a great point
gained in favour of humanity that a period of twenty years may terminate
rubber within these states, a travel,
which does so long and so loudly operated the barbarism of modern policy that, within that period, it will receive a considerable discussion,
from the federal government and maybe totally abolished by a concurrence of the few states which constitute the unnatural traffic
The prohibitory example which has been given by the great majority of the union happy, would it be for the unfortunate Africans have unequal prospect, lay before them of being redeem from the impressions of their european brethren. The idea that medicines thousand years he thought and a lot of
founders dead. That slavery would go a lot earlier. The nationally ended up going away. Instead, the south clung to slavery for decades longer than than you know,
was not only morally decent but even politically necessary and that led to the civil war. But if the idea was that the constitution of the United States was intended to protect slavery, that is simply not true. It is simply not true as a compromise position adopted in order to pass the constitution, but the reason we gotta compromises, because most people in the United States, because the northern was more heavily heavily populated.
Most of the people, the United States were already in favour of getting rid of slavery as early as the adoption of the constitution, in all likelihood in that is certainly true in places like New York, which is where the federalist papers were originally publish. The paper also discusses the uniform power of preventing internal terrorists. The power to control citizenship talks about why the government, the federal government, has to have the power over. All of these then section about slavery is telling and is a good rejoinder tall. These folks, you say that the founding fathers were simply attempting to enshrine slavery because they loved it so much which is not
True James Madison by the web. Southerner ranged from Virginia are itself will be back here tomorrow without latest adventure. Here this is the bench appear. Osha, the bench of Euro show is produced by sending a villa real executive producer. Germany boring senior producer, Jonathan, hey our supervising producers. Math is clever, and our technical producer is often Stevens edited by Alex Angora Audio is mixed by micro. Mina Heron makeup is by just one over the bench. A bureau show is a daily wire Ford, publishing production copyright for publishing twenty eighteen.
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