This guy, seventy years old, he just gave me accumulated knowledge of fifty years. I just save the years in one hour, that's a mentor here. We are on the bench ben shapiro, sunday special, and we are here with TAI lopez. You can check out all of his stuff at tai lopez, dot, com, slash ben shapiro is brand new program called knowledge society. We're gonna talk about plus everything else on earth, but first, let's talk about your internet speed, with all the recent news about online security breaches it's hard not to worry about where my data goes, making an online perch simply accessing your email could put your private information at risk. You are being act online by social media sites and marketing companies and your mobile or internet provider. Not only can their record your browsing history, they often will sell two other corporations want to profit from that information, which is why, I have decided to take back. My privacy, I use express vpn express vpn, has easy to use apps. They do run seamlessly in the background of my computer and phone and tablet. Turning on express vpn protection,

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because your your career path, shall we say it is somewhat unconventional yeah, there's a personality tat. She can take called hex echo, the most scientific one and in one of the it put you in twenty fathers, twenty five traits in human personnel, since the most updated scientific test, and one of them is openness to news experience and unconventionality and doktor david bus, a mentor mine. He is, he says, genetic. So my mom is a super hippy, so I think I became unconventional, maybe in the womb. Maybe when something like that, but yeah I mean, I think that at some point in my life the most unconventional part has been my education and how I use the education system. So I went through the regular kind of education system, but then I was eighteen. Graduated high school was going to go to college and

and a guy called me up guy named joel salatin and said: do you want me to mentor you I'm doing a six month, apprenticeship at a farm in Virginia, it's like completely different cause. I grew I was born in l a. I said. I wonder if I should do this. My stepdad had kind of a rough childhood, but one piece of good advice, my stepdad, he said you can always go to college later. You might.

I get a chance to do a mentorship with the sky, and so I went up there for six months. I lived in a little cabin in his backyard. It's a five hundred acre farm. I worked twelve hours a day for ended up being there for about two years and it changed my life because, instead of being in a system where I had lecturers and professors talking to me and you're partying, and all that I was twenty or sixteen hours a day with somebody twenty years ahead of me- and I did a tedx talk in in it kind of went viral, and I think the reason was, as I told people if you want to do big things in life, you have to follow this thing. I call the law. Thirty three per cent. They spend thirty three percent of your time around people with less accomplishment with you. Those are

well. Maybe you mentor you help right. Then you spend thirty very presented a dime around people who, on your level of become your friends here we spoke cigars with or bubble cigar, but I read it. I found when the last thirty three percent, as was missing in education, is society is where you spend thirty three percent air time around people. Twenty years ahead, you shadowing them and I want a few years ago, I made a list like everybody that you think of his great people. Albert Einstein, stephen hawking bill gates, mark Zuckerberg, Jeff, bear warren Buffett and I was like this. Some of them went to college.

but was was a common thread that they all have in it and found out that albert einstein bumped into this guy. I think his name was max. Levinson was a mathematician, an older mathematician every thursday he would go to lunch and talk math with this guy from age. Sixteen, on Alexander the great who maybe was the greatest conqueror of all time, his dad hired a mentor for I'm at age. I think fourteen sixteen and pretty good mentor, whose name was Aristotle and Warren Buffett, got a guy named benjamin gram

and ass, I went through the list I found in the top forty people that you could say I've done big things in our time. I think thirty, nine of them a tribute alot of their success to mentors they dont attributed to. Oh, I took us social studies class. Oh I memorized things and seventh grade. They attributed as somebody who kind of held their hand and and and they shadowed through education brought. So that's what I kind of. They did, and I'm thankful that I tried that approach. I guess he had a bunch of an interesting Incidentally, through here I mean you spent two years living with the homage amish had it. How did you wind up, move from two years at the amish to your multi million dollars a year. Five hundred acres over in virginia

people often say they're like cause. I I did a video on twenty fourteen twenty fifteen with I had bought a lamborghini and I posted it and it ended up. Thank the total views. There's a few versions of it is six hundred million views on youtube. It's one of the most viewed things besides music videos right, so people are I up from no electricity living like that for two years. Two beverly hills and I'm like. I have no idea actually, but life has lead you down a path that you don't always understand, except in hindsight. So I guess in hindsight I'm motivated by adventure, one of the things a mentor taught me is this thing that I call the four m's lot of people procrastinate. If you bump into most people, I meet I've got about thirty million social media followers. Now I get. Thousand people ask me questions every day and the most common seem one of the most common is how to overcome. Procrastination. Fear and anxiety,

my answer is like well. You gotta know what motivates you indifferent people motivating different ways, so the for em and I running this by a lotta scientists most I don't think I'm on the right track, one of them this he thinks I am missing an m, but the first m is material. Things might slash money. The second one is mating, slash romance the third one is momentum, slash freedom and in the fourth one is mastery, slash status. If you look at any personage, you know and you break down, why do they do what they do? It's one of those four now doktor David bus was a mentor to me. Now is used to teach at harvard he's evolutionary psychologists he's a tides all, maybe all human,

psychology is meeting it. It has to be it's evolutionary, but I would say for me my number one is this thing: movement, freedom and I've kind of been a free spirit. The reason I went from living with no electricity focused on you know, living in the country close to the and nature to the city was aroused. I need to make money. There, freedom, an average person, america. I read saving about two dollars for every hundred dollars and make it s a great way to create a feudal society. You know for every hundred bucks you, if you want a guarantee, Charlie Munger, says: don't try to think of how to have a good life. He says, use the principle of inversion, try to think of how to have a bad life and then don't That is a you want how about life for every hundred dollars? You may save one or two album and spend ninety eight answer

I grew up in was born to a single mom. My dad was actually in prison. When I was born, I was born kind of an inner city in long beach and growing up until I met these mentors. I was just kind of floating around yes you're in school, and but they don't teach anything about making money which is has to be the biggest oversight in the solar system. It's like. Why do you go to school at the core practical value because you have to provide for yourself and your family for the next forty fifty years? Do we equip you with any skills for that? No, we did your calculus, which will help you. If you become an engineer which I remember I was in a class, I remember learning in seventh grade. They made me memorize what the california state bird was called. I think it's the california condor, if I remember correctly right, but I was thinking then when I was like,

twenty five. I learned how to invest in real estate and stock market. I was thinking I could have waited on the california state. Bird like I feel like you can learn at at sixty and you'll still have an enriched life, but you may want to teach kids there their eighteen like how to do their taxes, heroin, vast how to do real estate had signed a contract. Their zero about in school, even in college. I hire phds that are just. Morons are actually don't higher. My interview, I'm thinkin, get your money back son, there's, there's one there. It depends on who ask there's one point: two trillion dollars of recorded debt for college in the united states and they think, if you count on track loans from parents, we're talking two trillion dollars in debt and people are coming out. Knowing nothing common sense, is no longer common,

So how does a society survive that doesn't know how to take care of themselves? It ends up in the governments. Bad, becomes a solution, a job I too am not as political as you or even my first mentor trolls out in but he's libertarian, and I tend to be more libertarian, probably partly because of that, the partly because it makes sense, and so now it's for the replacement of common sense with the replacement of a big government. That's gonna be the common sense for you, but it's not in fact the government's designing the school curriculum. That says, let spoke on the couch, stay bird and forget the rest shown ask about day. You mentioned these four ends them at the bare motivating factor is so I'm kind of softly positive, fifty m, which I think we were under the man. I want to ask about this, which is meaning so you talked about the idea of mastery, and you talked about money, and you talked about a mating, and you talked about the

and he had met freedom essentially, but where do you get your meaning? What would look at you up everyday neglected? We can have all these things and we do. We live in the richest society in the history of the world, the free society in the history of the world and yet rate of depend and a rising rates of suicide arising where people missing the meaning in life, because you as as somebody is also very libertarian minded I very much in favour of free markets and am very in favour of earning an entrepreneurship will get back to that in a second. But what good You up in the morning what what is in it can just be money because you know a lot of it. Otherwise you would just pretty I read write and it can't just be a freedom, because the truth is that you've got enough money to provide for you that frame. What makes you think? Okay, I'm gonna get up today and I'm gonna go, do some more. What what? What gives you that sense of meaning? So now we're going to the deepest question of you know I'll give you a b. I do a lot of book stuff I'll give you. What I think is the greatest answer to this question and maybe the greatest book that nobody reads: there's a book called civilization and it's discontents by sigmund freud,

and sigmund freud been discredited in some ways, but the man may be the smartest person you'll ever read. If you read civilization discontents- and he says this question of what the meaning of life is- has been asked time without end and nobody can give us a satisfactory answer any says, maybe because there is no answer, but he says I can tell you. By the actions of we humans, what our meaning is, and that is to be happy and to avoid paying. So it was a deep you wanna go, I'm probably searching for happiness and at the core of every human action of those four ems people perceive. If I get money

be happier if I get freedom I'll be happier. So I used to have a more complex answer, but now I give a cliche answer, I'm probably searching for happiness and an avoidance of unhappiness. I dunno it's a good question. Are we humans so differentiated that meaning is different for everybody? I dunno, I think cigarette. might be right at AL. Capone was seeking happiness in a distorted way, and so was I just the book. L chop, oh do you want to be happy? He did it. Well by selling method, and all this stuff and and people like the amish- are deeply religious people. Now the amish, it's interesting, you bring up depression, NE jared diamond who wrote guns, germs and steel here at harvard

price he studied amish and he said they have five hundred percent lower depression, which is my experience homage to the happiest people, and I think that the homage or happy, I think they would disagree with freud over the amish life is, is a religious spiritual, their christians, just very their christians are christians used to be an aging address. Homage are actually knows where it is people think they just froze in time basis. Seven days a week basically world with small there's endure sabbath forty hours. Yet so maybe better that so my humanistic answer is: I'm sea can be happy but The amish or their thing is like there's gonna, be another life after death and so that their meaning, so they don't take themselves, may be seriously on planet earth. Though I would say, I'm not as religious as long as the amish, but that's a good answer to if you can pull it off. I don't know that

when I live at the amish, I went after door salads when I enter, but the amish for over two years, and I actually owner ranch in the middle of amish community now and do I sometimes think that you know that the bible story of the garden of Eden right and so people things literal and somebody that thinks work on, and but the story is that they were in this innocent bliss. Then they eat an apple and the apple was the trip from the tree of knowledge. dry. Also, they knew lots of stuff. And because they knew lots of stuff, they were kicked out forever and the flaming sword was there, and I kind of like for me since, if I had been born, Amish never seen the outside world. I could just be happy with that, but me as I been out in the modern world, there's like a flame, Now I see the happiness that they are, but a king If as a sword

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controversial on many subjects might take the books as controversy. If you can believe that you have a cooler book or controversy story, politics is cooler in some ways, but books, here's my thing most books fuck. First of all, you don't need to read as many books as you think. So in a book a day I often read some of the great books over and over maybe once a year I read civilizations discontents by sigmund freud, bright ten times a year. It's that good. So I think you have to weigh an when you pick up a book, Someone recommends and it's the book of the day for me, and I realize it's not that good I'll finish it and people That's controversy all tat, you know really finish a book a day. Yes, I did. I got no only good. The rest of the book is just that bay. They couldn't sell. They had one good premise that was eight pages and they, but the publishers, like we can't so any page book for point by bodies so fill it up

anecdotal stories, it's like when I read these books now a lot what name names? Big names, I'm goin once I find out their premise in the chapter I just move on because I know they're only going to put stories in there supporting what they say I'll join you in the controversy I mean I've as I get older. I have the same experience when I was younger. I used to bull my way through everything, and now I mean as as in the middle of the book the other day, and it was a five hundred page book and as it's page three fifty and I've, normally I've been like okay there's only one hundred and fifty pages, let's go for it right. Let's finish this thing through a page through fifty has like this is not worth another two hours. My time I'm done here we're we're finished I put it down for thy area that this What charlie Munger says. I I really for business. I think the greatest business people of all time with Warren Buffett and charlie, munger and arm. You know they're they're, not the richest right now. Jeff Bezos is but They want a hundred brands there, the most diversify people they got. Foreigner billion dollar company keep honour fifty billion in cash. These guys are insane

lee smart and what are they monger says is most smart people. He me understand the concept of opportunity cost right. People get it. Oh god they said. But one implements it. So when you're reading a book- and you threaten offered two pages fair, fifty pages in- and you realize it's garbage, but there might be a little bit and nuggets in law, as hundred fifty, but the last under fifty three hours or reading you it's the marginal like that you're, not drove us as you are aware of it, and the real cost is not those two hours we now it's. What else could you be reading? there is over. Depending on who you ask. There's fifty million million bucks been published, something like that more united, finish him in your lifetime.

so what you have to do is narrow it down. I actually have a free little thing and I don't make any money on it, but tai lopez, dot, com, slash books, I list one hundred books. I think everybody should read and I think you're better off in life taken top hundred and reading it over and over because really good books selfish jean by richard dawkins? The one thing by Gary keller, these books, contici, is a great story like autobiography. If you read those Alex. Then you come back once every two years and re they have a whole new meaning for you when you reread them. So I I've never taken the approach of trying to read. You know everything. Deftly, don't read what must be were recommended definitely don't read. What's at the front of barnes, noble barnes ennobles, always go there pushing some Their pushing and whatever is paid put Stefan faded paid a letter that right you know. If your play poker and after thirty minutes you can figure out with

supper in the room is you're the supper. They put you there to make money from you when you walk and bar the noble and you're alive. Oh, this book appeals to me that they paid to have in the front you're the sucker in the room go to the bathroom, barnes and no war in a little psychology sections in history. Sections new find these books that you're like this is the greatest thing I've ever read. So I was you ve ever topics there, the the kind of social psychology history will leave. You have two picked up. I see you have it just for fun to read. Well what what's your topic? I mean I love history, but I do I love psychology. In the last I'd say last five years, one of the most critical mentors I ever had and people a lot of people associate me with making money and entrepreneurship, but I named DR david buss. If you want to read a book that will blow your mind, is his textbook called evolutionary psychology by dr David buss, it's what's used at harvard and yale, and all this Its insanely insightful, basically area

you ve, never understood in life. Why people act the way they do you like. That makes sense. So I like psychology, because one of the biggest things they didn t just in school that they should of is how to read people, because almost every trial, tribulation, traumatic event. You have in life it not from an inanimate objects. Very knows we would all back in alive and, like you know, what's sucked in my life, I I my toe, I broke my foot on a rock they all aid like most people's thing, is like I married the right. They say the three biggest regrets of people who they married the career. They chose an education they had. Eighty percent of people were wrecked, I was three and, to the extent you regret only one of them you'll be happier than people regret to have them most people regret all three and the reason you regret all three especially career and who you marry is no one teaches you how to read people most.

port thing that could happen in school is learn how to read people all the good things and all the bad things will come from filtering out the bad people before they get in your social circle and bringing in the people, I think of it, like you know those hamster balls below astern of plastic ball. And you roll them around. The reason you put on a plastic ball, I didn't know as a little kid. I thought it was supposed to be fun I had a friend who had a hamster and didn't put it in a ball and he stepped on at one time. wait a second, the plastic balls to keep the pants you're from dying. we're the hamster ads You need to have a thick plastic ball around your life, because, if the wrong people get inside that- you again. If I wanted to curse my enemy, I'm like may horrible people be friend, you Become your business borders because each of them, causes self destruction in your life and no one talks about three people I mean. I created this personality. Quiz says another little thing I dont charge for it yet sat title. Has our farms

Equus I dunno. If I'm supposed to plug these anywhere, I think about three. Four five hundred thousand people have taken it on and without me, advertising it. This is one of the first times I've mentioned it on somebody else's show, but I took the top six scientific tests that no what he talks about, except in the back halls of psychology departments at harvard and yale, and I made them public and it will blow- and I tell people before you have somebody- be your business partner having take tolerable dot com, slash quit for you go on a date. Somebody bill. I hate it when you take this cause, it's insane the mental health problems in the world right now. It's it daddy everything than in to speak to politics. Since that's a big subject of yours, almost everything people talk about in politics is related to personality traits. For example, being a Republican is something you.

test for and is probably genetic being conservative. There is a genetic component, I'm not saying that people don't choose, I'm just saying in general. They call it r or w a right wing authoritarianism and it's a association, and it's an evolutionary reason. You want a society where some people say pick yourself up by your bootstraps and go out and forge your own path in the world. That's more of the conservative life now democratic, more liberal approach is no. We need meals on wheels. We need this safety net for people, but that's a personality trait. That's why people choose that its mormon nurturing estrogen in the type of response. I'm not saying everyone who is a liberal is estrogen response, but there is something to that and I didn't realize that till doctor David buses, like oh yeah, we can ask people serious question series of questions and I already know their political stance.

Before I ask out after more than their whether there certainly biological components to politics, the studies on the studies on it, our art, one there there are certain That is the tend to belittle the biased with regard to self quizzing, for example, if you, if you look at these tests, that suggest that authority in them is more right. Wing trade at very much is tied to the queen. there being asked. When you ask, for example, you know: do you think that people should be shut down because they believe in climate? you'll see that the left suddenly looks a lot more authoritarian. Then the right has but There are certain biological studies that are really fascinating about, for example, if you, if you smell something dirty and the new this for everybody piecemeal something dirty and then you ask people how they would vote on certain questions, I suddenly become more conservative because they're trying to avoid the dirty yeah and it's It'S- it's quite fascinating that way. So let's talk a little about the mentorship stuff, because obviously a mentor box should have all of these programs that are you're actually talking a lot about mentorship. What's the best way for somebody who doesn't have a mentor to find one like for me, that was very My dad was my mentor going for a lotta young men, particularly having

a very involved father is is a key to success, obviously not having father and hum you're an exception. It's it's it's, but I found father surrogate father exactly so how? How can that happen? For folks who don't have either a father? They can try. the stuff or all law. That is a good question. Here's the thing gradual mark said he didn't want to be part of any club. That would have him as a member he's like they have me out of member states- quality club. He wanted to be in a country club that he couldn't get into the same: a mentor, Anybody who, like all gladly mentor you you don't want them to mentor you because you're like. Why aren't you busy Why do you have time to men from either your ninety three years? Older retired or there's something wrong, and so it's a catch. Twenty two, because you're trying to find people meant you that really don't want to and don't have the time. So how to

I do that one I would say, go to a while first first, you have to know: where do you want to be in twenty years, specifically like you're in media? So let's say you didn't, have a mentor, and you are asking me this question. I would say: where do you want to be in twenty years? Who is the closest to you who you want to be, and let's say dan, interest. I don't know who would that answer be? I have no idea any closest, even though there is nobody like you would you. Why would you want to have the each other howard stern or rushed limo, not the content, but would you want bad? You want a beer Partial hosts, like you and me like doing twenty years ago, I would have said those things right right away. that would have been worth what I would have said twenty years ago and you're right that I did find people in this space down to try- and you know, give me advice like I was very when I was much younger. One of my mentors was Andrew Breitbart, who is very prominent in the space yeah. When I was younger, I used to talk a lot with her with David Limbaugh's, the brush her brother rush, and here he used to give me advice and on the calm side, as I was friends with with Ann coulter.

like dagger, so yeah, I'm in as a I get yours aid me when I was when I was a teenager. I looking actively for me and I have read your own path, the exact by other, getting harder for you, the law, thirty, three percent guns, harder, azure, more successful officer, There's not a hundred people you can look to yet you have to compile, am sometimes you have to go, try to says you have to look at the imminent dead, like you have to use books, you'll find people went, eight, abraham, lincoln or something back. Then. I think that it is shamefully a little bit too in terms of the stuff that I I envy is knowledge in certain areas, not even effectiveness and sir nursing, a bilingual, pretty effective, reaching people and, I'm not sure, know who had looked too in the space who is better than we are at. but there are certain areas of knowledge where I feel like I lack not so there I'm trying to come. really reach out to people who know more than I do, and knowing what you don't know is obviously a major area of being able to find the right guy to teach. I thank god. Why am I would say this is my simple answer? Talk to ten people with potential? One will say yes and that's where most people mess up the guy. I know this perfectly

they go talk to one person, unlike their busy doktor Daniel, get one. If you want to mentor started twenty you'll find too and your mentors will change in the president. United states. I think cabinet is fifteen. You need a handful of mistake as also finding one mentor, because I knew comes colt like you know you don't want. The cold, like you wanted a cabinet around you of wise advisers in an old proverb, is make war with a multitude of councillors, and that's all. And that my approach, and so the other day I was working on his real estate deals. A mobile home park. I was thinking of buying actually grew up in a mobile home and my teenagers, I was like. Maybe I should buy a mobile home park just to be like the true one, Eric in rags de riches like I lived in it and then I ended up owning it, but I have mentor, who made one over a billion dollars in that space rusty and I was going to buy this place- was an indiana flew out there? Then I said, let me I was at vid the grill by trader joe's on site that I call him up then richard as richer shall get

place, and he goes I'm really busy. I don't have time to talk to can just thirty seconds. He goes. Okay, tell me that details told him how it will be just because go into the subject. There was a one hour on the phone and he just laid out exactly what to look for what not to look for- and I was thinking this guy's seventy years old, he just gave me accumulated knowledge of fifty years I just save fifty years in one hour, that's a mentor! second, I would ask you about your philosophy of individualism verses, materials will get into politics, which is my favorites failure. in just one. Second, the first one about your eminence, so you're going to die sometimes soon, maybe not that's, hopefully not that's in, but when you do play, it's you're going to really wish they had had life insurance. I mean, if you're there after you're dead and you're, looking around you're gone. What did I fail to do? Life insurance might be high on that list. Life insurance is pretty important, it's also confusing, which is why four out of ten people Have it and maybe one of those people, but they were to happen. It's important that your loved ones are taken care of. Besides life insurance. its lowest they've, been in twenty years, the best time to buy his right now, the best place to buy

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Is that where you are, and what do you make of where we are politically in the country right now cause everything seems so fragmented, so divided? And yet it seems, like I've talked to a wide variety of people across a variety of political. The read here on the sharm have talked to you an undue after jordan, peters, antitoxin, Joe rogan. I've talked to erica Einstein right, oh just a bunch of people from right right to middle to laughed and all this in there very successful people. They all seem to have this very individualistic perspective, even if they are Democrats we're waiting policy and politics and sort of perspective on visual responsibility. What were those line up? Why are you first thing know about politics. If you study history at all, even at a minor level, politicians haven't been good able for a long time there probably not going to be good people, I'm always like a maze, people are like you're, not gonna, believe this. I found out that it's about bill Clinton, nor donald, trump or or hilary I'm like welcome. the planet. Earth live right. Have you read it? Have you read a book? This is

are in order two thousand years ago, eighteen hundred years ago, seventeen out so what happens is going back to reading people. Politics attracts narcissistic paypal and if you look at the bank it yeah, I did, I want to know that I'm seeing people running for all I gotcha, I got, don't worry, not people commented on it and all the people running for office, I would say Donald trump- is the most classic example: when our success, I would say ill weaklings, a classic example of a pie macchiavelli in person, possibly I'm not sure about site, for I interviewed hilary ones by books. I kept away, looks yet very smart woman, but you know she smacks of that macchiavelli in All these people go from Nixon all. Why just read a book about woodrow Wilson. I mean the guide wonders president's ever to somewhere else armies are there? Some love, em euro migrant microgram,

a common goal. It was the worst and most corrupt, but anyway, so my take is. Nobody cares about you. As much as you, and definitely not a bunch of narcissistic politicians some of you have much faith in the system at all. I think you're, the sucker in the room Does that mean you should ignore politics, no, it's a necessary evil was how I look at it. Do I put. You know the law of parental principle. Eighty twenty, I think, if you put twenty percent of your focus on politics and big system, is the system and policy an eighty percent in doing what you can control you'll be good. Why do you think people are putting so much focus on the on the twenty percent minute? It's pretty clear right now. People are distracting themselves to an enormous extent, with the give and take of politics. People

engage like they never been, which is great for my business, but it's not a soul, a great for the hearse movie, spinning, oh yeah, I'm on twitter agonising over whether nuclear war with north korea's eminent. When it clearly is not, then then you might be waiting and why you think people are so interested in engaging with politics, particularly is it a lack of meaning? Is it no? I think it's all either. Well, maybe I think it's on a well veiled procrastination? It's four is well veil, the dough the paragraph visually this go well. I could focus on building skills, so I can make more money or I could wine about this person not doing something me and it's much easier to do that humans. All humans are like water. They all move downhill whatever

If you don't see much water going, I'm would go up hill, and so because people were grass night, they ve been looking for external reasons to blame for ever and there are external fit look bad childhood that isn't externalities. You had no control over who your parents were. She had a dramatic childhood. What at some point you just grow up and you go well. I cannot redo that there is no time machine, so I can pull pull my pants up. My big boy pants, take the diapers off and go out and do what I can and will politics allows you to kind of revert as an adult you're like not blaming your parents are blaming donald trump. I promise

This president's are less important and people think they ate their internal ass, ugly, more or less support on individuals, life even more. You can even argue that I think the biggest thing that people should talk about what interests me in politics and what really moves the needles, demographics, steady, demographic. She about predict everything. You can predict america's aging africa isn't africa has a massive growth rate. Am I went to india when I had six hundred million people now India has one point one or two billion to america's have grown inside india in our lifetime? ah america at the world by twenty. Thirty projected may be at eight point: five billion people. It was at seven billion what last year Aggro five america on the same car, on the same set of continents. What's that gonna do all politics will bend?

to that. So what do you think? The future of politics looks like that? I mean given the fact that our replacement rates in the united states are low, we're. Actually I that most of the industrialized world, the rest of the industrialized world is kind of screwed, which is why they bring in tremendous numbers of immigrants. Where do you think we go here given the urging that the aging population or the rest of it and will the ransom nations are born, stoic and die epicurean the maybe we become epicurean maybe we will die out and something I believe in human. In the long run I think america so strong This is not my arrogant expertise, so let me give you an amateur answer. My amateur answer is: will survive. The media will focus on a crap loaded drama, but they'll be millions of

individuals living nice, normal lives with happy families. The main concern I have, I think mental health issues is going up and if, let's say it's always been bad, when my grandma's one hundred by the way she was born in germany, you'll like the story, my grandma was nineteen years old. Her friends said you gotta come here. This guy is a great speaker. Her name was molina measurement. Who wrote a book about this? Now it's kind of a famous book, my grandma goes: okay I'll, go see him they go down to the park. Car pulls up. The tops down. A man stands up joe in those adolf hitler. My grandma's nineteen choose one nineteen eighteen, so it is thirty. Six and thirty seven one he's like time magazine man of the year media got it wrong. There It wasn't my grandma goes this guy's crazy, I'm leaving she goes your families is, I think, disguising declare war he's just a madman. I heard him talk in the part five feet away

my grandma's family goes, nano he'll, be fine, yeah promised you know he sign of peace with russia. Poland, gotta be borne by ground goes on, leaving anyway, she gets on a boat she's on the boat. She comes. America knows nobody. He declares war and invades poland. As my grandma crack crossing the statue of liberty, she guns america knows Buddy pulls herself gets a job as a waitress in getting a scholarship for college. Her life dream was about to California ends up in California. I, like my grandma story. She had for sight to see she was able to read people. First of all, as I said, the core skill the man himself, adolf hitler in person. She read this guy's insane. She had foresight, prudence, she didn't procrastinates, easy procrastinates, hard to leave your country. And so she came here and low anxiety. She was able to overcome fear, that's hard fear drives.

Into the wrong corner and she, We're came that and I'm here because of that, and so on my grandma was young. There. There was less. There was maybe a billion people on the planet, So, let's say one per cent of people are insane for sure. One percent of the population psychotic, So when you have a billion people, you're talkin, ten million cycle people spread over the whole planet. What happens if the rate still stays at one percent, but you gotta eight point. Five billion. mothers. Eighty five million psychopath bell. What if also mental health rates because of the disintegration of role models, family communities, the amish, have community. Now our is too much urban life. Urban life is not its hope. You think, I think you come to the city to exchange ideas, and then people should live in the country. It should be like a nation states like greece, or something like that.

Or, as a country, urban country get blamed. That's what I try to do now spend two weeks in beverly hills, new york, city, orders and two weeks in them. while nowhere on a ranch arm and so because that's not happening and it used to when my grandma was born. Ninety percent of the world lived in the countryside, villages, ten percent in large cities. It's inverted now it just in in about twenty fifteen and went the other way. I think mental health has gone up from one, send a people to be whack jobs to like ten percent. So am I have seen this in a judge. Mental way like their bad people, I'm talking about just like diabetes, is something you feel bad that some one. Has you don't go? You have diabetes, there's people with legitimate massive. out there, so much anti anxiety to medication being taken. I just read: now: should geographic the great lakes of michigan. It's got made its way into the water through basically people paying in the toilet, fish or so

doped up there like have low anxiety and they're, not like searching for food anymore, so they're just dying. He got fifteen to thirty percent of people clinically diagnosed with anxiety. What's going to happen to society, I don't. I think, like I said, will survive, but I think that we should really focus on stop fixed education system focus more on mental health, not at a governmental level. But you know half the battle is just tell his people realizing they have a mental health issue. They have anxiety, they have narcissism, just fixing just realizing. It is literally proven to fix half of it. But how much do you think is this of this is the destruction of social standards. So you talk about the strength of the amish communities. Obviously one of the strengths of amish communities. The people are married and they stay with each other, and then they have kids in them and same thing in the jewish community, where you have a low rates of of a lot of just and social problems.

The easy and other communities, because people are expected. You you get married. You stay married. That person, they carry your kids, that's the way it is. You take off every seventh day, There's! No. You have no extra, not a new electronic what had he resolved the tension between the need for Wouldn't you talked about earlier this individualistic society that we've created where we want to do what we want without any consequences and the fact that we do actually need to embed ourselves in social structures that allow for us to to thrive, because, yes, it feels restrict it also allows you to thrive in a lot of cases, yeah yeah. Well, what is jocko willock say: discipline brings freedom. There is more freedom from discipline. The thing I would say, I've gone through different opinions

opinions on this I've come around and I think you're probably right. I think that when I was at the amish recently about six months ago, I was walking around and I was like. Why am I happier- and I was like- I know why bounded rationality so there's this concept in science and in psychology surest sticks, it's called hate decisions. Bounded rationality means, if you want to go, get sushi restaurant food, some as edgy your wife, her husband, let's go eat. If you couldn't put bounds on it, you ll go crazy. You know, monsieur she, restaurant throwing los angeles, If you add ok, which one should we go to do, you're the one in whittier long beach? So we immediately put one boundary on it within five miles of our house I would put another boundary on it. Ok, yelp reviews need to be three stars are higher, so that puts another set of walls on then we put the last one. It needs to be open now, boom.

and now a narrows it down to two places and her happiness goes up because we don't have that many choices. One of my mentors is the guy who wrote paradox of choice or if you've read that book, his famous professor, it's a fascinating book. He says the reason we're becoming less happy. Is we have too much choice? Use the only have choice like amish, you basically marry a girl that you grew up with ten or twenty choices you have. Some choice was not tinder where you go insane and if we don't have bounds on a rationality. You become more unhappy. It I've been testing this recently I mean way. I am the whole world in front of me. I can do this and then I go. The former it's kind of like I need to wake up at five in the morning. I an address, Sir, you know you drive is more, could serve someone up in all these boundaries. Ass. She made me, robot? Was it let's talk about how you structure day, because you have a lot of advice for folks on sort of how to live? most successful way to live. How do you?

crusher daddy. I again, I see walking around you a huge crew, you're, not you ve got a camera on you all the time. a lot. You're you're here, do it you're, providing these materials that your website tell as dot com. So how do you have you struck that day, had you decide how much is fun? How much is how much work in words you cross over to give me Jimmy, is in it as eligible for they buried is important. I think the first thing. For everybody that I follow. Their ruin can read as a great book by Gary killer called the one thing. The power focus. First thing I try to do is go get I there's too much to do. What's the one domino I push today, they knocked down like a hundred because I do not want to push down a hundred one. At the time I got a hit, one huge one? That's real heavy and it knocks everyone down. So I think you have to know what your superpower is and do that. Eighty percent of the day, I think, as a sikh I used to believe in you know, test management systems in excel spreadsheets and new prioritizing you flipping every

fifteen minutes should do a new thing and you do there is a third year. There's all these different tools that people put forward to be productive and successful. but I saw a study we want like what is Warren buffett? Do this guy owns a hundred of the largest brands in the world from annex bank of america? You know I'm going: what is this guy geico? What is he doing any says simple? I spent eight hours a day. Reading That's about investment deals, eight hundred pages- that's it you don't wanna see my is the planner he loves to show it has like eighty eight cause. I wanna see my day planner what I have scheduled this month. He just laughs because there's nothing for eight months on there. So I think the first thing is read that book by Gary Keller. The second thing, if I was advising my younger self, the second thing is less is more, do not

news, flurries activity with accomplishment activity accomplishment both star within a but they are unrelated. I have and that just oh, my god, I think I've found the poor. My friend is them. If I'm like hey, can you come here me move I gotta move. Dude dissolve busy. I, like you, ve, been imposed, unemployed for six months you have nothing lying for only a watch. What are the real? and I use is causation correlation. Unlike wait a second, I think the reason there in what therein whenever taught him to be productive, and so they keep them so busy with low their activity, but none of it moves the needle on life and life. You got only four things. I think I've found the four pillars of the good life health, wealth, love happiness,

the cohesion. So what I do this is my third point of being productive. I just think those are in order, so I tried to do work out. First health. You know I've. I've got to know on a short neighbour a little bit, not super well, but I was in his kitchen did like a forty five minute. Talk with them, and I went on strike a couple months ago- gave a talk with him, and I asked him this. Then it goes I wake up before the morning die. I read for one hour five in the morning. I ran back to the gym by seven. I've read an hour and I've got. about a two hour work out in any breakfast: doesn't productive guy by seven in the morning

So you do your health first, then wealth is usually people's career. I like to do it in the day, then health wealth, love to me, love is friends. Family romance those three parts components up so at night I pretty much do somethin social every night, and then I say: if you do the first three pillars, happiness comes automatically. You gotta balance those first three, so do them in that order. I meet people that spend all day socializing with friends and the you know, entrepreneurs they put off their work, or I p people who put health Then they live waits, oh, am get it in before I go to bed now, do it first, that's the or, if you dont have health, you won't care about wealth, love or happiness, because you'll be in pain. If for me that the biggest thing that I have realised- and this is a real change from earlier- my career- is when I was when I was a lot younger. The tendency so, yes to everything so want to get together. People when I offer you something to do for career, you

We say yes, because you're so eager to get going that you just say. Yes, it turns out that if you aren't you work for free than there's lots of work to be done. I free and then I start to realise that the more I said no, the more successful- I was mainly as number one to create scarcity in the market number to actually need some time yourself yourselves, a great article in the wall street journal about exact This somebody wrote a long, piecemeal. his section about how it nobody understand, but people say that you have time for me you mean a phone call and will say no and they won't be a jerk about it. But a fifteen minute phone calls not a fifty men if uncle already phone calls a forty five minutes phone call your acts. It takes forty five minutes, but because it seeks to fifteen minutes yet into fifty minutes. To get out of. and by the time you get onto the next thing you wasted an hour. So we'll talk about it A planner did the most productive days that I've had our days when, basically I get worked out in the morning and then I'm that all day did you tell us that I had that. I really want to get done for sure. You no good bonus tip I give to before,

Was advising myself again at eighteen? Take catch up vacations, so bill gates loves to read, but he was and seventeen time richest man in the world had a lot of responsibilities? He took vacations on set intervals. I dunno, if his once a quarter or once every six months, and he brought all the books that he couldn't read, that he wanted to end. He would go through seventeen books in the week I like to do these many breaks. I use paul springs. I recommend you go at least an hour and a half from home and can be drivable doesn't have to be expensive, get a cheap hotel bill or family vacation. I go to a relatively annexed it's place and I just bring stag yellow, no pads worm right now. My plans, you gotta, be the general of your own life. A good general goes in the war room you can always have flurries of activity. You gotta work not just on the euro in the business of this step back and work on it, and so I bring my yellow pads

big bring books. I bring no itinerary and I just catch up, and I think you should do once a month and it can do in one day Now one day will pay off by making the other twenty nine days of the month at least fifty percent more productive, where do you want to be in in ten years or so where? Where, where do you want to be in ten years you're? Looking at your career and happier baby, I think you all should try to be happier. I think so, when you get married, that's a good question. they not only the growing was coming. It's just a matter of time you that was come in, I think his heart we married? Sometimes because I had half my foot in the amish world and in country world and half my foot in la entered in los angeles So it's like. Every time I meet a girl in l, a that fits in in L. A I'm like here come to the farm and they they're like. Oh, I don't like this. and their autonomy, a girl who's in the countryside and likes whore

it isn't like. I got sixteen horses and all that stuff and likes to work, and then I'm like, let's go to l a they're like ugh. I hate l a sought on. Oh man, I got my foot in two different world. Maybe that's maybe maybe don't do that. So I. I dunno oh yeah, that's something that's analysts, then we gotta fix you up that there we go a very jewish thing, that guy get you involved in a religious community and fix there. We go. Let's talk about religion for saying we breed and touch on it before. So, where are you on religion? You mentioned your richard Dawkins fan, so that gives it some some indication that wary. I've gotten religion. We spend a lot of time of the amish. Obviously I you know I like the amish about the four for christians there's. This is going to spend a lot of people, but they are real christians and I ever met that before, like people waxlike Jesus. Christ says you know of somebody slap you on one. She turned me so they're all pacifist. by saying you I'm not about this, but I like respect people who, if I don't

I mean yeah yeah, exactly they're, not hypocrites. So I like that, if I would be christian, I would probably be some version of that, and this is if the question you're one of the only people? I ever asked me this that I let asked me this. A lot of people are going to go right to this part of the podcast I would say that time. I think religions good is better than most people think. So, even though I have a complicated view, I dont think most people should have a complicated view. I think is good, too believes that of eve, and I do think it's ok to read richard dawkins and it doesn't have to make you lose your face. Even the smartest people on the war, even stephen hawking level, people

believing weird things like multi level, I mean multilevel yeah universe, the universe that meant so the thought that there's this spiritual thing going on, and there is a god it it's kind of scientific in a way I think, they're dom in order to make spirituality work, and I think why doesn't work, maybe from it hasn't worked at certain times of my life and for friends that I watch. If you don't remember that hamster bubble, if your religion lets too loose of a group into it, you will get disenfranchised. You will get disenchanted with the group, so If you could pick. Maybe it's what you have small group of people that really do what they say they're going to do, then you can stick with it for a long time. I think you know you look at big mega churches and an american christian church. Then people go there and halfway through it they're like wait a second. I know

this person out here monday to friday there out drink in vienna, turn on and then on Sunday. I see him in there very spiritual that messes with people's brains, so I think of you- can find a non hypocritical group of people that is very healthy and probably healthier for kids to grow up with the belief you know really. So I I mean I grew up, judeo christian, I'm more judeo, christian and funny. Even if you try to not be judeo christian. If you grow up judeo christian, you kind of are yeah in america. Remember america's judeo christian! Exactly as it's! I had this conversation sam harris sitting in that chair because he was as saying to him now, SAM. It's very there is, of course, a militant atheist. Their end and I say to him is weird: the united shared ninety five percent, the same values, and why is it that we share his values- and he gave a bunch of reasons why he believed what he believed. I said, we'll probably has more to do with the fact we grew up ten miles from each other, in LOS angeles after three thousand years of common history. Probably, probably is that so

I certainly agree that ok, so from the divine ridiculous, a language and culture as well yeah, so gimme, your favorite cultural, cultural, totems. I greatly tv, these were what it was all a viewing, relaunch, merriwig, basketball, I love basketball, believe it or not. Ah yeah I played on one of the top high schools in the: u s in one a couple of state championships in north carolina, so basketball is my thing. Yeah. I want my favorite things about kind of you know. I got a hundred million people that my videos every year. Probably the coolest thing is, I made friends allow. Mba guys because they watch my videos. So that's that's you know. Achieving some level status is only good if the people you admire in my area. like getting status at the wrong group with whom he was our physical was person that you found out was vanity or show that it is in the call experiences I've had as you're sitting around since? Suddenly you get helpful to be like wow, that's kind of neat yeah, some of the lakers, some of the clippers. I become good friends with Chris Paul. I just did a little

with him, yet all so that the air that I went. I was at a laker game when I walked up to Kevin hart the comedian, and I was just going to talk to him. He goes It is vital that you I gave away, leaving course to people over last last year. And so he came up to me and he goes. for giving away cars tie. You should give away a house, so he already had watch my video that was kind of money rihanna. I did a little interview with me on it. You know I, like I liked basketball, cultural totems. I like I actually like film funny. I went ten years.

We don't want any movies. I thought it was for idiots, and now I'm like you know what there's a value in being able to escape reality and I produced a little bit of movies. I dip my hand in that. I wouldn't mind. You know what a powerful movie impacts, people more than you think, especially a powerful series like a game of throne. I think the way they should teach history in in school. And I love books. Forget books, get these bad ass. You know series they have one called rome in a few years back, yeah man, you'll, remember more about roman empire. By watching that, I just watch one on the story of all the trojan horse, and I mean- and I'm like- why didn't they teach me this in school and I'm like they probably did but nobody remember that a good civil war movie you'll remember the civil war. Nobody hook in school

make you memorize, eighteen, whatever or sixty one is defiantly going or is it eighteen sixty to sixty four sixty one sixty sixty one sixty five or sixty one? I was right the first time. I'm goin hookers. Let's know that. That's what was the civil war movie that in all when I watch those movies, I watch that one glory or whatever they may. I knew you take away things denzel Washington yeah. so er? So I love to make movies like that. I think they should make a movie about world war, one in a world where one is the pivotal role, a change the world at some point favorite history by local ones, table shea america doesn't like world or one does we weren't in it that long? We don't really get until nineteen seventeen, but my grandma, its wild grandma's alive at a hundred when she Was born this world or one was still going as while she bore a february twenty nineteen eighteen already some good genes on you

I don't know, but don of obvious health is my grandma Jeez old school she starvation and ate it. She vital you know I grandmothers she's. Ninety seven, our four years ago, she's, ninety seven- and I note a visitor and sandy She comes out with a little aerobics outfit and she had a headband on my grandma where you're going is like she goes. I have zuma class. Actually goes, I'm going with all the younger ladys, and I think it is my grandma going in a class like twenty five year old. so I looked it up, her little whimsy class was sixty five plus but when you're not that she's I'm going with the young ladys, the sixth, so I hope may I told you how it purse my enemies bless my enemies. May you be doing zumba at ninety seven, exactly like my grandma can say: well, tai lopez, thanks so much for stopping by it's really a pleasure as an hour that flu subtypes buzz that congo check his stuff out of and he's got a ton of great stuff. There also check out tyler buzz comes lifespan, shapiro been dead. They put up by a landing page who thinks he who shows up the jacket?

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