The big eyes, brand new podcast, their common nonstop, we're just gonna put out much as we can until you guys go awry buddy pump your breaks. I got a new bill burden week irony to bear as one cave this week. I got down weezer released yesterday Tyler Florence is today. You already know that your party click that argument drone. Second, I got a new hot ones that just came out it's on youtube under first we feast was shown evans. We did a quarantine addition where they sent me the sauces. They sent me the wings. I then loaded up my own wings, which was a huge mistake. And and its airing right now wholesome just boston. He liked it so I hope you guys enjoy it and put as much content for free as possible obviously my special, the boy is streaming right now and networks go check it out. Enjoy it. When this

it's done. We will be talking in new hour when this gets done. Jesus tomorrow night I had a live zoom with five hundred participants. that we are doing happy hour for at five o clock pacific. Time: eight o clock eastern standard time. This will be the first time I drank in thirty nine days I drank I didn't drink when I got here, offer the toolbar us that sunday for a whole week, and then Some I drank with rhodomontade his by gas and- and I haven't drank sense so in forty days, I've had to upload traces. The there no sponsor reads he's just a good free content pike ass for you and that's it yet turn up. We beast check out the released. I would next we big podcast we ve got guy fear

someone else I forget who else we have anyway. this week's podcast is I want a lot of food network, a lot of food network and I've been watching be great, the great food truck race, I don't know if you ve seen the great blue truck race. But I got obsessed with Tyler Florence? I know tat. From tyler's ultimate food, nine one, one he's a script. I swear seem scripts events. When I worked to travel channel I am alive love. I gotta tell you man, I don't work and travel channel and I know scripts is kind of broken up. I think they're all discovery now, but god dammit. I love the content. Their producing on d. Why and on food and cooking? Not a big stick depend, although I watched the probably brothers in their new showed celebrity. I owe you were much him with the girls man you really very quickly see that brad pitt is worth every cent they pay him

Brad, pitt, molest, mccarthy and celebrity. I owe you as I see it. The property brothers on here and drew. I know guys. I know a lot, as you know, a lot of these guys from doing up front and doing events. Our travel channel, but I never really got to speak to them much and so it's really nice. They ve all seen the special that they all wanted to come on the gas and they were cool off to me for an hour. Tyler had exactly one hour, so We got him in and out, but We got guy coming up and then I'd take any woman, those barnyard builders. I take them. in cabin built bears anyone that's been on living off the grid. I'm obsessed with that content right now, I'm also obsessed with the operation of dessa. I don't know if you've seen them on netflix operation. Odessa is out of this world- and I've been talking about that guy tarzan for years, in talking about back. I tarzan, probably thirty years I knew about that.

it's all coming from florida, and I think I dunno I'm not going to speculate, maybe I'll, maybe I'll get tarzan on here. I would love that she'll reach out yeah. I would like to have tarzan so good call when he returns even guitar, hang on a second I'm in here right now. Oh hang on the seconds my manager heritage. Have you in operation, odessa on netflix. Ok, can you please see if we? get tarzan on the podcast let me go, let me hang almost one. Second, I'm doing read. Proteid of florence ceases. Some sort of the book ass an hour on over the ok gimme one sidedly. Just do me one sec. Ok, I guess I know alright cool anyway, I'm a big fan of Tyler Florence, I'm a big fan of all the food network, guys I've been fan of food network for as long as absolutely and that's when I started watching good network. Just give you a little baxter story. I lost a tunnel,

When I met Leanna was a hundred eighty six pounds on what my rhythm, would be. As I have dinner, early. I start drinking. Years, and then I call it a night. Take a beard on the bed with minute star, watching food network, and I got so in. didn't do network. I learned how to cook through food network. I think we what about that? A little on here we talk about my my shift was learning to love emerald. I didn't get emeralds angle first, I didn't understand it and then what night I did and once I got emerald I got everyone and I thought Everyone unmet network- and that was part of the reasons- one of the many reasons I to travel channel. Obviously no, I wasn't like. I wasn't links Through the roof about a roller coaster show initially, because I just The meetings I wanted to meet at the company did members as food, I'm a big you'd show guy, and so I found out that they're all related food network http die. Why cooking channel travelled here

a great american country. I was cut went through the roof and I remember going to the first events. Meeting anne burrell and being like, oh my god, it's Anne burrell is she was awesome. She was every bit of, Amber AL. You wanted her to be meeting to re, speeding, deanna meeting body meeting guy. We we talk about that, but meaning tyler as well is see these guys and I would lose my shit and I could never kane myself to be cool around them, and so I never became friends with them. Never really met them other than a hollow and man. It's such pleasure, I think I tell the story in here hosting I do tell the story of being at that up front in new york right I tell it- I know I tell it- I tell it to guy probably tell it twice whose a pivotal moment of my career and I'll just we say that it means more to me than you ever know that a resolution of this pike ass. It you care that you buy tickets comes any, but the fact that I did you go,

It kind of shepherded me back on the right path. When I got when I thought that waterfall and you guys were like hey man, we don't like your travels, so we just like your podcasts and your stand up. Just do specials and just do the I guess maybe it's. You know that I'm on the right path right now and then I'm doing the right thing and then I'm going in the right direction as opposed to this oral here right kind of law. Awesome. I didn't know what I was doing and I realized I was sitting in the wrong, see the great feeling the really really great. feeling so, like I said, were dublin down on podcast for dublin down on content and one stand upstarts motherfuckers. I am saying goodbye my family in California and I'm living on the fucking road living on the fucking row, I am when I get out on the road you have no idea- will be producing a blog every single day. I will be doing everything I can on the road I will be going in and doing radio. I will be doing every. I will be doing tough matters.

spartan races. I can't wait till they lived this book in quarantine. Put until that time. I'll, be just Alan Donnelly. Podcast like this one, ladies and gentlemen, you know include not only you know, from tyler's tyler's ultimate his new attractive, great food truck race. His new show the great food truck race is. Now airing on food network, He is a chef we talk about that in the podcast about his falling in love with food before it was like a coup to form of a third. When you want to be a chef, his arrest tour he has think nine cookbooks he's an all awesome dude and we have a great interview. I hope you enjoy it. I hope you stay say, ladies and gentlemen, it is my great pleasure to introduce you tyler florence

the brats on the new show. I'm just watched binge watched the other day, the I have so many fucking nuts yeah. Let's do man a big boy. How are you man? I'm green though I want to talk. I want to talk about. I really want to talk cause. I feel like you're, one of the oh geez when it comes to the food network, yeah for sure for sure that you, you were a person. This is going to sound disrespectful by the way. If it sounds disrespectful to you listening it's because you think it's disrespectful to you, I'm not talking about you or what, but I'm talking to the person listening. You are someone who decided to be a shit

and then found television as opposed to the other way around cracked. You know no disrespect taken, because that was absolutely the path for rice. I'm guns. Twenty nine years old this year and I started cook in way before the food network? Was everything a thing nancy and that and look no disrespect to those people who found. I know lots of em guys I ll, I love eddie eddie Wong Eddie Wagner is a guy who restaurant wanted to be a comic restaurant tour kind of wrote a book and unlike got into tv, I don't think you really ever love tv. I think it was like something that was forced on him, but you're old school in that like your passion, is food. First, it always has been. I mean everything else. Has fallen by laugh over my career, so incredibly before I had a long carpet I wish you'd never today talk about what the hell were doing in the middle east pandemic, but I've been on television or through the work for twenty four years now.

Ideally or years browed. So who did you who are you? Who is your starting? Who is your starting class sarney class? It was. It was me I think bobby flay, emeril, lagasse, SARA moulton mix, sigh man earnest going in man. I used to watch, do see ok so twenty years ago, by two- maybe maybe twenty years ago, I I I went on this weight loss journey, Rosa gonna lose weight of maybe by lighter than I am now and every night it's when I discover the food network every night I would watch whatever was on like I would watch and by the way I was like a snob comic I'd watch, emeril lagasse and I was like yeah. I don't I didn't get it like. I was like he's he's a brand like I didn't, lose it and then all of a sudden one day, just the pam. I just was like it made me giggle and I went okay and I slowed down and I fell in love with all you guys. I mean all you guys were my like. It was my introduction technically to to the food network, but, more importantly to this,

company scripts. You, I guess, was no running that from day one yeah yeah anne and where we were of the same family for a while when you aren't travel man so but that whole big group, like the tables, really big, there's something for everybody. When you hop on food network, if you're going to find somebody on there you're going to gravitate towards all different kinds of cooking styles, all kinds of different personalities and, and so there's you're into kitchen staff, there's carpet she suffers has always been summer for everybody and its ashes gotten better over the years, and that's what I love about re end, and so You know for you jump in that from a enthusiastic standpoint, especially with but you're youtube series right like when you're in you're talking about like you're doing that and I'm what I'm watches I'm watching. You do the food network thing, but you watch it. So many times that you feel so comfortable doing that, because, like yours currently pash about food right and why

man, but when I get the kitchen and like I have a good time, you'll get up burns and should make a joke. How some friends over his that's, what we do anyway, then they will win everything turns out right and we always just gonna. Always to say. If it comes out little rare, you call a car carpaccio and you keep on fighting, go the ottoman and an end. So that's what's so funny about watching you You cooking to me because the enthusiasm has to be there and I can tell I can tell a lot of ways by, but I can tell you really love the cook right. I love you guys interested. You really taught me how to cook, because I would watch you guys and I would learn little tiny things and then I'd try, I'd, try at night or the next night to try things and, like I said I always had this crazy respect for men because he was so mild mannered. He by the way, I don't mean disrespect myself but like he definitely did not belong on tv. He was just a guy who loved cooking very fast.

About his culture, very passionate about sharing it, and that's why he was good on t v is because he was passionate. Every single one of you showed up to that network, barking, passionate it wasn't about it, wasn't about by the way these people that when I say these things, they'll know what I'm talking about it wasn't about finding a cool pair of glasses to make sure people knew you were passionate because you were the guy with the glasses. It was just being in love with food it just about- we met and and and this is the difference I I think in a lot of ways, because there's so many different shows on right now, right between top chef and chopped and and so that the idea of being a celebrity chef like the bar has kind of dropped a little bit and honestly there there's not One of my colleagues on a professional level, or your show that I bump into You haven't been on national television release, five minutes right. So every

Are you gonna watch weakness, its wasting going like where's, my cappuccino, where's my agent where's my book deal, but I'm telling you if you can walk up to a counter of means and passed out dishes and not I have a recipe in front of you and not even know where the hell you're going to go and build to riff on all those ingredients and to be able to make a spectacular meal off the top of your head. Like that's the that's the the repertoire of like when I call the salad bar of ingredients right, I can walk you, are a counter. Stop ice cold, not even know what the hell. The recipe is. Just a bunch of ingredients and read and make some spectacular you eat, like we find the whole thing hope. I am wrong and that's just practice and experience and that's travel. That's cooking! That's tasting at having that that that introspective of of where the thing came from the first ways to be able to tell great stories- and I gotta tell you and that's why I love you as a comic man, because, like no wait till stories barely wrote like nobody man, I just

I just watched a big way again of the third time. Like last night I shut up and- and I'm serious by and just like you, because it's either, you tell jokes you just like. not gonna fucking believe what happened to me. Man, unlike his life, I guess so interesting in the first place, right and so so here when you're really good at it. You don't even really think about like we do a lot of preparation for a lot of problems. Can we later we write? Allow recipes of sixteen cookbooks would push produce yet another one this year, some some hours away some time ago, but I bet, you've always got to get better at it. You always can sharpen yourself, right and and for people to just step into that and away and go okay. I used to be a country music singer, and now I'm on tv cooking like as as interesting as seems for a season or two vera gonna run out of gas, eventually just big They don't really have the tear warbling, greedy right, you're gonna, make mom has been

It's and they're going to make this like down home country whatever it is, and it's all great fun, but, like you, you you're going to have a hard time getting past season three and season. Four right. Right and that's that's the thing about so I'm lucky to have been with food network is also at love him to death. And love how everything started grows, Martha the launching of a limited series of me shimmer, coming up in the next couple weeks, can we really kind of you should call on to brown. You should call. I did. I think you might be kind of interesting food network too, maybe because you'd chances back button It's been a while right and I love every bit of her lover golan, lower riband we'll talk. Let us talk about. Let's talk, and I want to talk about like I want to start from the I would love to china. We have no. I got you like an hour ago you for fifty three more minutes yet, but I will I'll curious about grown

in south carolina about going about kind of discuss like just being like like what kind of kid you are in highschool and college. What like how you discovered food? I want to talk about travel and food cause. I did travel for a bond and then I want to talk. I'm really curious about what it was like to be one of those first people to pave the path of celebrity chef of pave. I thought so. These are then. These are the trappings you will do when like to the people now that are learning about like finding food is a passion, and I don't think that just because you want to mesh up as a young chef you want to get on tv. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but, like oh definitely on you guys, you guys were a class of of a legit, a classic. A freshman class of

Does that paved away of like hey man, you got to remember. I remember having conversations with all of you at different times valley got a galley, opener, open a restaurant and started to cut book. You got to know it and I'm kind of curious, because you also have taken the path of like the russia and then hosted the show, and then it's really in. Really thing. But how do you grow up in south carolina yeah? I, I grew up in a small town called greenville, which is like the northwestern part of the state, and now it's actually the tech capital of the state like Bmw, north America. Is there and there's lots of like heavy global industry that comes out of greenville, very interesting place and right now have some really dynamic. Southern restaurants are coming out of greenville

I went to I went to college in charleston and went to corners what kind of highschool get where you are. You like a yummier you're gorgeous dude, like captain of the football I mean, like your your your your tv attractive. What what well thank you know that not so bad looking yourself that rubber like, but that that had been his like, I I I I was kind of a different kid and you know I loved, like you know, like british grunge, you know, rock and and everywhere between, like the clash and a you know, a new water and stuff like that. Like that the asa I was a skate rat, I had like crazy long hair like a flock of seagulls back in, like the mid eighties men in like war, torn clothes and like I I would I was popular, but I was kind of we would like, the the outcasts that was, you know it we'll be working at the outset right or they did miss boatwright right rights. I get away, I prefer my clothes cigarettes yards

The cigarettes were the same as that very edgy. Right, listen to chair, write, poetry. To this day. If you play love cats, I am standing up and I'm gonna dance that route, which is the best. So I went to a I started working in restaurants when I was like fifteen years old man just because you know I just wanted to hang out with adults and do adult things man, so I started washing dishes and like the nicest restaurant, my hometown of greenville, south carolina adults, but the hop on the catcher behind me as leroy. What's ugly Roy is going to he's going to cuddle down with you. What's up buddy, what a beautiful dog thanks man, a german shorthaired pointer artist. I know I'm a big dog guy. I just watched the I was, I was about say german shorthaired pointer and then I was I thought all of the all of my rescue fans are going to be like Oh, so how rehab into reads argue about where we have to have all mastiffs, so I might add

but we had to rescue dodson and and he's a he's four years years. Old age is a dream breed I had a dog s way, and so I want to get something done. Special need is accusing great boy Its aim is bad, badly way, brown. What a good looking dog is he houses temperament? Is he like common? lacks sarcoma, let no man he was. He was a rough up. It is more than a b is a nightmare here in the house. Apart from its president, who whatever thought I started. Yes, our washing dishes and, in my view, the nicest restaurant my hometown agreements. After and you know what went from she dishes to like being a proper like helping out and put your station where how to make sausages and then and they can cooking on the line. And And- and I just knew right there at the age of fifteen- that that's exactly what I wanted to do for the rest of my life

and I knew who I was at a really early age And- and I I think that kind of self awareness is important to to start your career as early as you possibly can. I think the idea of people going to college and then figuring out what to do with their life when they get out of college you've wasted about sixty seven years, man or that you could be doing something really important was going to like college just so you could study political science or liberal arts education. I think sometimes getting a good technical background. I went to tech, It was all aware, the culinary school. I learned a trade right, so I learned how to cook- and I learned how to cook in real life but learned how to make it one on one why on earth or by the EU this in nineteen, eighty- nine, I'm guessing ninety ninety yeah- eighteen, eighty nine and there was a sort of foreigners. Ninety nine ninety and then a nice not run for two more years ago, business degree. This is great, for this is way before then. This is what I think is cool. This is like this is way before. Being a chef was cool, you just did it.

Way, that's what that's when saddam cool about it. it's a member when we all found the deuce that built choppers, and we were like what do you imagine in and then also that everyone's build jobbers you're like I don't wanna see you build tapirs. I want the guys that I don't want. We thought there are losers, yeah right now. It isn't blood man. You know now, and so I started cooking, went through came from a hole in the wall and nobody ever knew. You know what this I've seen more really cared honest exerted matters about the major d and your game. a table and whoever whoever is in the kitchen, was just like name francois, somebody in and know what nobody really really care So until about ninety ninety and- and so when I was paying attention to it. All these shafts restarted pop up regionally around America's working programme, way and as everyone whirlwinds and I was jasper, white boss and it was defended dollars in early, trotted chicago and the shutter popping up regionally and they started producing. What is now the fine?

as regional american cooking because it so that it so vast and it's so interesting because everybody, you look in your own backyard, is like pockets of inspiration that you can't get anywhere else in the world like food new england way different the food taxes and fees, taxes way different l a and even in l, a and san francisco island right I mean Zero is two completely different food styles, but but it's all just sort of like rich and interesting at the same time, So I did that none with the corner school, I got a bachelor's degree in hotel restaurant management because I think it's important to build a saute, a nice scallop, but then to know how to make a business out of it. Do not crash in a restaurant that For me. I m not johnson wells university gave me an honorary doctorate, two thousand five. So that's fucking, doktor tyler, you!

yeah and then shortly after that, I moved to new york city met, I moved to new york city with two thousand dollars in my pocket. That was it. I had one of my first months rent my last month's rent in about a week's worth of cash, and I didn't have a job, but I knew that you. If you took yourself seriously as a chef in america, then you, I don't want the two places right either once in new york, where he went to paris and I had the money to go new re and I started working with charlie palmer or yell, which was like the biggest restaurant in the world time biggest, culinary name america hands down early power, Charlie palmer, yep, exactly the same guy that I am assuming that one's chart that has charlie palmer's and in DC, yet a mistake: ass, a gap in santa god. Then guy s, I work with him back when he had one restaurant right in his work. and every night, and so he was my mentor grown ups- are workers about with a bunch of other shots, but he was, he was a.

Big when that was my first big city, bad ass, hooking experience

and everything else that I grew up with like growing up in the south, where all the food is just brown and good? You know it's like chicken fried steak, and black pepper, fried chicken and collard greens cooking. Now the ham, hock and you know an ambrosia and coconut cake and coca cola bottle, and you know, and and like pork rinds and black ips, like that's the food, that's the delicious american cooking. I grew up with, but then you can take that sensibility and you go to new york city and then at nyt. Then it's everything is refined, it tastes great, but then it's refined to a level which is pure art. And so I worked with charlie for a couple of years. I worked at the river cafe and and brooklyn for awhile and then and then I I I took this big leap because I was married and was expecting my first child at age, twenty five and I had to start making real money. So I I did this like fake it till you make it move where I applied for an executive chefs position, probably a little too early but fuck it. You know, I just did it and I got the job and I

was a twenty five years old I was executive chef, restaurant italian restaurant called tchibo, it's on forty five second ave forty second street and is still there, which I'm really proud of we're on the cusp of tudor city and in your city, and I and we we were blown up and we were getting like really great accolades and all the newspapers and then one night and one of the executors from the food network happened to be in the dining room and I was walking around like a stud with my. You know: crisp chef's coat on walker. enable shaken hands, am tyler florence. I was dinner tonight really joy that the da and she handed me your business card and said no and when the program directors, with this new cooking channel, think of food network- and I was trying to draw in front of her and I and I I took the gig and- and you know I did one appearance- and that was that I, like the one apparently no work in nineteen o six. It was called in. today and would like to live new show. They would you every night, six o clock with them with that donna hanover, which was Giuliani ex wife

David rosengarten out these old named David rosengarten. Yet it grows and garden. sudatta debut sosa, show called into today and I had ended the other. The show is, if you like, the world through news lie at the. but they would have this kind of guests shove appearance. I didn't one, and I mumbled and stuttered and sweated my way through foreign half minutes was a bucket disaster, but the exact his walk out of that was great any come back next week, and so no between nineteen, eighty six, ninety nine nine I was login end, like you know, an appearance of weak. There were obviously china bill. At my face time on a network. night. Ninety nine, I was I like food network's best friend for for years right and the ninety ninety nine. They decide to make official to offer me a contract. I got my first job and I are hosting a show called food when one right will where we would travel around the country help people out of their everyday food emergencies, and this the guy who grew up, would like

really great southern home, cooking and workings and restaurants in the south and then had this level of refinement and polish can work in restaurants in new york. And then I could take the whole thing and repackage. It would just pure technique hanging out with everyday folks in their own kitchen and showing them how to fix her tuna noodle casserole, how to make better guacamole and how to like perfectly see What job? And how do you know how to add about? You know poached egg and are all these different things we can break it. I was a first step on the food. Never do not wear shasta, which are very proud of, yeah? I remember they that show so vividly accusation When I moved to new york, I want to say we I want to say my body, which I watched you potent egg on on on food. No more, one and then one night were walking back from hours in new york. Now we used to live above po on Neely street yeah right,

the nine Cornelia street right above po and Cornelia street cafe, and so my buddy we chose like him in we can poach eggs like we know how to poach eggs as potus. Doesn't a. Yeah we got bug in ways that embrace all of your europe. Show and our recollection we're does it eggs, his less than drunk, and it was far by the way I still use that money. the deposed egg, but yemen and yemen, That's my love about like these moments, where it's like you that what we have this superpower, you want to call a right wing I cook and and honestly, I'm a I'm. A one trick pony man's law. I know how to do while you take the kitchen? I can barely pop gas in the real world member like, but it isn't Thank you now and had been rocket for a long time and that I and I love It- and I love moment where you said you know like with like, because what you did not tell

imagine we did it, and now I've got a little more peace. That too, and I can make my cause- is hurt. Honestly, you know that you could probably say it's a top five list of the most incredible things on the planet. The bill. I would, but you know how to cook is gonna, be one of em yearning it's gotta be one of them. It's be up there. It's like I just I loved the cop, because I loved the taste of food like to me like nothing, like very few things like, exciting is up. But when you take some, oh my god, it's crazy. I do not make that even better right now they possess the ability to take something it's like average. and then you see that two points like I'm. Never tasted food like that before dashes my gift, man and and I now get chance to hang out with people again, just like travel and write cookbooks and go to food festivals and and be a part of the big food network culture. Minimum like like, like, like I said, there's like five or six of us and who started the

at work and a lot of ways and and a lot of those people come gone. A lot of mouth and now it's like a whole new generation of people, but as he has always bums me out a tad bit, it bums me out it's cool to see the the lifers, the guys who you know it speaks volumes about your You're humility in your personality- if you can stand a network that long because it means that you're, not you He does not get in the way you're a good person to work with. A lot of reasons: people's data network and now one is people like bats it the amber one, and I think that's a good lesson if you ever get the opportunity to go to the big show- like, if you ever get your opportunity to have a network special right or you get your opportunity to have a series on something? Don't act like an asshole right is as soon as you get it the whole thanking just go away

It happened to so many people were forcibly. Second, you lose that gratefulness of of all of it and it doesn't matter. how great a relationship you have or how much money you make an episode or all just goose, go away right No, I haven't rabble general guys would come in and you'd I mean I could name exact names and they come in. They be just difficult. All they get was on one week of good ratings and all of a sudden there were unbearable and you I remember being like hate amber somewhere and me at an up front and what how come I like. What's that? What's the secret- and I was It came in. I am probably the lowest rated show on the network, but I'm still here so I was like there's a reason: I'm just not a dick, I'm a fun guy, I whatever they ask me, I always say yes, I never question them. I'm a company guy, I'm very appreciative for the job, it's a fun buchan job and it it and it and it was, it was amazing, but there's it speaks more.

It speaks more about who you are as a man or a woman. When you, you have a job at a network like that for awhile to get the now it it's it's a gift. It's a gift to be on tv to get to be in show business match gift right, that is only so. Am I what what amount public and people walk up to me? I'd, never disrespect at the intersection right yeah. I'm somebody wants to make us all my god. He make a picture with, you might get absolutely accord. You came in Because I've been on television their house for years- and they have relationship with me that I know nothing about and I'm not going to blow that that moment with them, because I'm busy or I'm running late for my flight or I don't have time or whatever it is or am with my kids at me like like some people- is that they're kind of blind the situation, the walk up in those are freaking out, will back and then what family, they did it. My eleven year old daughter, will take the whole the camera and take the picture. My wife will take the picture I like, and so you know it's just it's just part of the whole thing, but it it's. It's been amazing relationship and it,

then you know it's been a singular. Experience is only about probably twenty or twenty five people in america have done. What we ve done for me now entered the on it now Work is on his way out and I and and in its blessing, but they think about it's like where we never take our our recipes for granted right. We never take his life. I never I try. My heart is not to repeat myself. Were you know like talk about some crazy recipe, we did ten years ago, were always reinventing. It always come up a new car except we're always no recipe writing and trying to kind of keep the story My flower is actually allow just fall apart, like that. We too, just because, like their food, never evolves I just like why you still don't get me started. The number one thing in comedy is the number one thing the number one rule my opinion: if you're comic you gotta challenge yourself on your next special by the way, I'm not a genius bill. Byrd told me that he was like yeah man. If you're not challenging yourself

you're not growing, and he was- and he very simply was like remember when you're in over mika- and you got a couple of jokes that works and you're like oh here we go is that you still do them and like now and he's like jack as he grew, he was like you said grow when you're also really good too, when you were eyes, good yak is I I honestly I'm I'm sure, like you mad cause, I I gotta tell ya: hey big boy is a fucking great special man thing people who refunding and and so like now- and I I feel, like you know twenty four years deep on the food network, we're launching new restaurant san francisco. This fall to mistake. Ass with the golden state warriors. By that's called miller and locks were doing that one would get wayfare tavern our flagship restaurant here in San Francisco. I gotta get chicken shop at the airport and we're doing a lot like fun expansion. The restaurant business and in work I just I launched study, launched two new youtube channels once a wolf it down and once a wolf about eighty k, which means in the kitchen sore

producing a bunch of amazing content for a younger audience who don't really know a lot about through network or not really watch that they were going to answer a few. Never thing I would just launched newsletter would launch a new website, a wolf down, so we were constantly evolving and trinkets out. New staff in this is how you had to stay relevant right. So it's easy to blow up, it's hard to stay there, it's hard to stay there with longevity right, so you cod, we like. Whatever you did last year, crumbled up, though in the garbage can and do something new to give people something to sink their teeth into so you're, not average or boring, or quiet or or or just dull right. So so what? What? What? When I was a colony school, I want my instructor and the sources and skills class. This is coroner school day, one by one.

here, so everybody and making a walked in and you know how do you know you little just put on the heart and everything and he picks up the knife on my board and heels and he looks me in the eye, the walls his eyes, and he says dull knife, dull chef and he put the night that I walked away and I was humiliated, but that was appointed it right if you, if your, if your knife is dull, if your comedy is dull, if your food is dull, your do right. So, if that's your message out there to the world right and that's your thing- you're out there like pumping you as a brand, you owe it to yourself to stay commercially competitive yo to yourself to like to be on the cutting edge of what's happening and to know if you're, not right and that's the thing about that was always kind of kept us relevant. My knife is never fucking bow, never dull knife, dull chef might be my new I've been I've, been I've been collecting, quotes lately, gabby,

rhys of the volleyball player, freshman, volleyball player, tv host athlete married to laird Hamilton. She said the other day and take up space. So that's when I learned I needed to take up space she's like I'm six foot three, and here I was trying to be cower and not get noticed, and I realized you know what I'm gonna take up some space. That fuckin line for me was ike. How many times have you in there even when it comes to listening and you just don't listen you just make sure you don't fuck up we'll, take up space and let yourself be the fuck up and then an end be yourself and take a face. We recognize you but doll knife to all chef is like is like that. I'm you could say that don't don't dull knife is just its is really. I love statements. That way, you don't mean you, don't you do it you take more from it. Then maybe they meant, but you go, alas, home there we go. I'm hang on my hat on something you know yet because, like if you

if your you're is, though, what else you gonna let slip right like if you're, if you're comedy is, is as as dull. If your microphone is dull, like what else are you gonna let slip? and so like having that ability that self awareness, which is always is super important for people that have the the opportunity to to just step into the limelight, and some sort of notoriety like that self awareness is so incredibly important to know if, if you're, if you're, maintaining something, that's always kind of cutting edge, always on the forefront of what's happening and so yeah. So it's been, it's been a wild ride. Man, it's it's been, it's been amazing. I love it. I love it more than ever, and I were super happier now. What's the scare, what's the scariest you ve ever been on the journey of his like it once again, you guys were kind of like explorers in how to monitor, as being a chef, meaning like just more than open restaurants. What was the scariest rubber, whether it was you know, opening arrest,

front investing your own money or you know, starting about doing oppressed or having a new show We are walking away from the show walking taking a break from food like from champ route generally, what was or who network what was or was scared if you've ever been as an adult Well, I've had a couple a moment's am I am. I don't like that. That really liked sent me back and other rights, a member. when I was twenty seven years old, and I and I had hit a wall like but working in restaurants professionally, because, like you from fifteen to twenty seven like that was my life. Man was one hundred hours a week in the kitchen and and you either had thanksgiving or christmas off. He never had both. You never had a new year's eve off and you never really had weekends off you had like monday, tuesday off and he always kind of work in this. Like opposite, I was like it was like opposite world for me right answer: We're gonna hit. This war is over those dating a girl in new york city who can work in the fashion industry.

she went out of weekends and, like I like, my job was starting to become a problem. You know what I mean like I did it and I will start to realise that I didn't exist in and the The normal world existed in that in the restaurant world, so when the food network thing popped up, I I kind of like jumped then leaped in blindly with both feet, because I was just sick of it. I would just like I just can't I just can't do this anymore. Marriage is like like having you know. The humans have a heart attack and she canal the heads walking kitchen. You know, and you know it somebody's not come. Some me no show no job right and then it ok ok now, I'm workin, salads, you're doing expo you're doing this and you just gotta try to get through and like but for the first time, a walk and you like in the set of a television, show an- and these are people who are just you know, freelance sprite, Video guys make up artists, jacket, producers grips your lighting experts, everybody, unlike like you, worker full time, I'm like no, no I'm I'm a freelance, I'm just doing this for a couple of days, but then this that

symbiotic relationship, and they all kind of came together with level professionalism was like that's kind of fucking amazing. I kind of fell in love with with the team of of working at tele and soon so that that moment, when I was caught him in limbo, burnt out working in restaurants and not really habit of food that were contract. Yet it was it which is kind of darkened and I'd I'd gone through a divorce at the time to, and I had a very, very young baby in, and so I was living in brooklyn at the time I'm sorry. I was on a stream of eight street between seventh and eighth import slope and in and cheat she loved him back this after land. She took everything all of us, staff and we didn't have a lot of stuff anyway, so I was twenty seven I was making about fifty two thousand dollars a year lived in york city, which is hard even back then, and I and and she took she took our our child who's who's. Now now you know twenty three years, all by the way and the most lovely human being lives in california. This but

took her child and she took oliver stuff and she moved back a softer line when I was even home right. And I saw I came back in the restaurant in the park- was cleaned out and if I have anything I I had a pile of coat hangers on on on the on the floor. right and that was an, and that was after you know, some moved to new york city was twenty one. So that was- after about six years of just hustling hard, you know, and and and just trying to be the man and all of a sudden. I I feel like I, though this was a pretty I gazed at within. But then he always purple out of bright. He always gonna pull out it and I always think to myself like the the damn them the real challenge in moments. In my life as when I have bounced back the best right with with the best work and the best, ideas, and at that moment, where you, like your backbone, makes who you are as a person and then now like two thousand twenty in the middle pandemic, with my

stride crashing through network, postpones a couple. Seasons is not an egg and you decide to quiet. You hardly bacon I mean like you're, going to be okay, you're, going to get the wall and stuff because I think adversity, it's like it's friction the policy right So it's the adversity that you go through in your life. That gives you stamina, to go through it again, could you gonna go through it again right, there's things happened, you that are from your design which you can learn from in life, There's things that happen. You d have no control over the best. You can we should learn from those and start developing survive, pustules right. It started it's happened again, two thousand and eight man and the the economic downturn. I remember when it exec is a food network walking in right when we wrapped up Tyler's ultimate and they said they're cancelling three contracts- and, and I didn't, and that was before we work is. I will I just a television for seventeen years, men at a television coquetry and so in any kind of built up this sort of house the cards in a way where

I was assume, if you never would always be there, and because the money was, the money was big man. I don't for making fifty fifty two about a year to make our shit Donna my working on television and so all of a sudden was like yeah. Whatever man it's like was getting a rolex. Let's go get a range rover and let's get new house, let's go and all of a sudden says, yeah. We're we're not pause for little bit because was out of control as all their advertising money. We started a rapid too, because it was just images the world and an and unlike whoa, who burned burnt through all of our savings and about about three months and fired all my employees and burn through oliver arts, and we had to liquidate all overstock and went down to what felt like close to bay. proxy man. You know and because we didn't really have a backup when we didn't really have anything that fell like you know this. Happens. I get this about happens. I got that an end. I said to myself when we get out of this- and I know we will- this will never happen again right

so we started developing these like tiers of revenue between restaurants, books and media and public appearances and different things that we always feel like. We have a pipeline of cash, it's always kind of coming in silverstone and being in business. For yourself, as you are right, those things are other It's always about the santa right, you're, always kind of in the middle of something that the contract is about the sunset right so on. I am overly aggressive about keeping new ideas in the pipeline that that may numb sure for a year or so. But I know I'm working on this shit because, like that thing that we're doing today won't be there forever man, it is wall, so you have to constantly replace yourself replace your ideas.

replace your business models over and over and over again, and that's how you stay on top and sometimes you'll knock out of the park with a big one and some years you stack and a little stuff right and it's okay right. So some set some years you're going after wales and some years are scooping up minos with a net right. But as long as you've got a plate of food row as long as you've got a plate of food and you're doing what you love as all matters, it's so funny man I got, you know how you must have felt in two thousand and eight. I think I started working for travel in two. I when I was thirty seven m forty suddenness ten years ago, so yeah, two thousand and nine against And and bert the conqueror, can I tell you my kids fucking love that show of thanks. It's so funny my kids just watched in abs. My kids never really saw it. They just never wither too young, and so we we will ask what was the first time. You kids realize you're famous I've been interesting, an inch the first time,

ever got recognise in front of my kids. Was that magic Johnston's fridays right by the airport and in an and it was Sunday had flown in on a sunday and we were It was a morning and we were decided to go to magic, Johnson's fridays and have lunch, and I walked in birth, conquer had just started airing and a bunch of black dudes were in the bar, and ready to watch football, and one of them saw me and was like I'm with the girls. The girls are young at the time, and I hear him just oh shit, grandmother ferko and lose their minds and they come out They all get pictures with me then and half

guys didn't even know who I was. They just knew that he recognized me, but he was a fan of the shows. Like I love the show, I grew up in ohio. I used to go to cedar point all the time. So then, the manager comes up by the way for those who don't know magic johnson's when he owned it a business, he is an american employees, it was, it was route committed to creating revenue in the african american community took the all black restaurant. Usually all black people went there to eat grab by the car bucks movie theaters he office of yup, and so we sit down The manager comes over and he's like. I am not aware you have showed I'm aware that a few of my my patrons are love you, and so, while we want to comp your meal- and I was like oh wow, and so I'm I'm literally like laika, like looking at my wife going baby, it's happening like it's. It's happening like look at us check it out, All my daughter's realize they don't realize. Did that

I recommend brutalities made us realise that black people love tat right up up up up up two days later in the mall in any time, my door almost total, georgia's all black person to go tat. Look like this. I was always like baby ready, gabby point that black people going yeah, there's one right there, so that was the first time. I don't think they. They don't really give a shit much for the very cynical when it comes to anything fame. Related they're, very, like the mock me pretty heavily same way: burn burn, burn bill. Burr is one of my really good friends. Bill burr and my daughters are identical because for whatever reason- and I think it's cause- I didn't get success until the older age. Whenever I get I recognize ice. I tend to match that person's energy, though, if someone's, like, oh shit, machine I'll, be like. Oh, what's up dude like a matter energy burst, told me, were at an accent: gaming start matching their fucking energy

you getting more excited than they are run a break in the night, try to match your energy. Now we have two fucking lunatics, spinning out of control. My daughters and my daughter is market they'd go there as soon as I started doing it they'd do it to each other like they were recognizing other call brother, oh brother, brother, oh, and so they buy dollars a brutal fifteen. Thirty may now, though, that we are really going to site, so I've gotta my eldest son milestones in the cyber security industry and that something you're a super town in protest, my guy and then my wife knights have a twelve year olds on lebanon.

Daughter, so I got kids image good god, but to be, I mean like to to so the second round, because, like miles, my oldest coming grew up where the first wave of fame- and I and you know he was kind of with It- we're kind of at a different spike, like it spiked know a bunch of times over the years, but that first spike knew you're talking about like to like two thousand. two, two thousand and four two thousand and six, and when I was Emily, garcia's leader for five years on the food network, there was like you know what we would do book signings in like Chicago, for example, and they would book borders two nights in a row on states reached ago and at six hundred fucking people It's a row signing bought for six seven hours and everyone all I got so like www. Without that that frenzy thing like as people when I walk on that level, enthusiasm you gotta go. It's all a little, but you can't give you let you can't be dismissed.

we gotta get what will be the term, but I'm a man like it's the with that level of fame, especially when you kids, don't realize it until they do now. The second wave the second round of this are located right. When I went on my daughter is obsessive like googling me, yeah right and she was like dad. Did you see this thing on instagram and somebody said something about you like how dare they I'm like honey? Let it go, who cares? Gog yeah, I guess so, but she and and and it's also the other thing which is kind of interesting with her too, because she does it like for me to over participate and a lot of things that she does like she's in a competitive dance group

if you're, like a dance, video yeah like a hip, hop dance, video yeah that she's eleven, she does it competitively right, oh for real, yet she's, good, she's, really really good and our budget. She doesn't like it when I pick her up at dance class. She doesn't like it when I sit with the moms. You know because, like kids walk out and start going- oh my god tyler florence, hey! Can I get a picture with you and then they? EL bell that will get reflected back to her and in the same thing happened my oldest son, to an end and you my boy. when this later in life like, like, I know living here in San francisco, it's like your cabin system is started. Instagram jack, dorsey, twitter, like these, are all friends of mine just because we live in the same city and done an inherent san francisco. Those tax stars are our celebrities right sooner, like tech, guys in shops, right, tat, people and shattered, and so, when my oldest son, I really want to get

to the industry, the tech industry, I'm like. Let me make a phone call for a man I like, I know, MARC benioff, you know I I know I know Kevin sr. I know these people. Let me just get you in it was like dad. Don't do it because I'll always look at me as your son versus versus versus who I am as a person right and an asylum so proud of my old aside, does he got you got a job work with a cyber security company and south bay- and he got the job all completely by himself- and then had to go through some some difficult training to get certification and a couple desperate, special industries right, especial specific cybersecurity soften I'll, even though progress, but our baby. He did I myself himself but like with the same thing. You know it am I can get a reservation any restaurant in a whirl, I find it all. I would. I would abuse that if I was you, I took marty trick. It's a party checklist

people call me I was like hey. Can you get me a reservation at shami, louis in paris, for two of us for tomorrow night, I'm like fuck, yeah dude, I'm a fucking watch. This shit boom done right well, see gallery like that, that's fun, but that, but that that the fame thing is, and it's it's it's something I feel like my family. It is graciously patient through ray like they understand. That that relationship pays the bills they get the writer and- and I I try to remind them from time to time that that all those people that may seem a little like obsessive, that those are the people that kind of keep us. You know this reason: we've got a pool in the backyard maths reading a private school. You know it's like so like ads against another. Without someone early like you've. Never you never disrespect right has effects. I can't talk about several real fast. I I gotta tell you, there's like something that your generation of of

it's had it coming together as like a team of comics and allay specifically right you're, so so how you guys all stick together an cross promote each other stuff. Cotter spectacular watch rank as I hope, into miladi youtube, and even the comedy store. When I go to l a I always go, we start, even if I go by myself because kind of like having that that that keen sense of improv to me like watching you guys do it makes me a better performer on television sometimes, but, but how? How you guys, how you guys stick together and then cross promote each other stuff podcast. You know proud promoter, the specials to me that solidarity is kind of really refreshing. You know, I think it wasn't always that way. I think it was very competitive for a long time. It was always there's only five spots available and who's going to get those five spot.

That I came up in that in a generation, and I remember that that I I that kind of pushed me into travel cause. I would travel channel cause. I was like I was like I remembered: I'm a red forgot, birth conquer I tested for a sitcom, and it was like me a fucking Chris catan. It was like the weirdest group of people, and I was like this does not seem like my sensibility, so I started getting into trouble channeling at that time, rogen and corresponds. He had a big falling out. I dunno, if you ever saw that, but it was like I've seen it. It was big and I think What rogan was doing was he was standing up for comics. He was saying this rogan has always had a, and I and I hate to put this all on Joe. He would definitely go. I don't know you talking about. You would definitely say that

but he's always had an affinity and a love for originality and he gets inspired what what what stirs his creativity is seeing greatness like seeing people perform greatness, always to this day, whether it's an ultra athlete or a fuckin, a scientist or a politician, or you name it. If, if you are, if use, if you are great or you do great things, Joe rogan is fucking fascinated near the end. He is inspired, and so when that happened, with Carlos. I think he was set off to the side like this outlier, where it was like. Hey man you're not allowed to play in our game anymore. The stores kicked out. You can go to the improv, but your friends aren't there. You can go to the ice house, that's just a spot, but you gotta. Do

own thing. I think it really really bothered show that he was kind of pushed out of the store, and so he looked at his like. I want it. He had wanted to help comics be original. So when he started his pack ass, he was very, very, very adamant about putting you want putting you over a you need to start a punk us, and I believe, will I do your biogas is a cab to your own, like you need to do your own, you have your own content. You need to be your own, yup you, he didn't start a podcast network. He just kind of was like you need to do your own thing. You got it and he me segura joey, ARI, you name. The list goes on of guys. He said you have to start a podcast. Yet, and he said it's too easy. How did I watch them all tiger belly fire and the kid I I watch all of 'em yeah and how you guys stick together to me. I just think it's fascinating and I think Joe was the kind of driving force.

We are stronger together than we are a part if we put each other together, put each other over together. If whitney starts a pike ass, we all do our part gas. We bring on our part as we get her. Pike has to be great because she can get guess that will now would get David Sedaris David spade or go over to her house, and so when her pocket bigger, podcast gets when we have something to promote. We can go your window and specials coming out of your pocket like of course, well, it's, I think, l a leaned into it. We learned that we had more to gain from each other than fighting each other. So when, like the lia, the lia specials coming out, mayhem and cigar attacks then like. How can we help promote it? like what can we do more mentioned and on our part cast you wanna come on our part, gas and in it. So it's been really good. I think, and I think that the people that are not like that in a weird kind of law

lord of the flies kind of way. We kind of weed them out definitely notice that you're selfish and you don't wanna play with the group where you want to go off and talk shit about people and and and be nastiest are rumours or whatever. I think we can go home and that's how the game played- and I I I don't know why or it is that way. But I'll tell you it's a it's a bizarre time to be a part of comedy, especially in l a because you know it's like I mean in that you'd never had the biggest comic in the world, which is Joe, arguably biggest comic in the world being like hitting you up and going him in your specials premiering dot dot dot. When can I get you on the podcast to promote it, and you're, like I mean, is just crazy and and be all to be friends like mentally and tom were texting this morning. So I'd put up this thing, about a joke. We did together and my and my mom called she said I watched till. He is special and then I texted he and my mom loved your special, the girls wanna watch it tonight. You don't believe I know you and so it's a really bizarre

or but you guys kind of had that do a little bit right. Yet you know we we we we do and it's gone through a couple of like waves of of camaraderie right I mean when, like so the south beach food wine festival, aspen l, a newark seafood wine festival, the they used to be these moments where and where we we, as a group, would get together because often we're just kind of ships in the night and- and I wish we would- because I use the reference of of like the this, the I dunno. What wave of comedy you kind of call this right now but, like I grew up in the role the Steve Martin and richard pryor, and and all these like yo George Carlin. All these guys were just like speaking the truth back in like the seventies and eighties and the and new eddie murphy and like like that, like those the comics and I used to like just like really just

just like listen to when studying, get their albums and listen to over and over and over again ray, but then like this next wave of of comedy that is kind of coming out. It's not about you, it's about us right and and so in in everytime, I'm in l, a I'm in l, a was nine middle eight a month, but like I use amusingly at least once a month or something and they had some dry by because I used at the chateau. So I was driving down sunset and I'll, see that marquis at the commune. Nor am I boom like. I know all those guys the watch on your part, gas and substantive you like, I know I know everybody on their its. I know it's like your cocoa bs, like bodies, flights, be great to do. That would make joey fucking day that you called to tell him I said hi, I don't I dunno personally, but I I just feel like I've watched him eat like the stars of death on on the charge of what's out by whenever I had he's so funny man, soldiers so funny, do So all you guys mademoiselle, like I'd, appreciate I wish that is. I bring

it's up a lot and have a hard time describing it, but I bring it up a lot, there's a sense of camaraderie that I think we should develop a little more in the culinary world about promote each other shit because, like now, it used to be this thing. Where, like I got a restaurant, I got a cookbook and then, if you're lucky enough to get a tv deal cool. But now, if you don't have a restaurant cookbook a tv deal and a podcast series or you're doing something kind of independent Well, you really not you're, not maximizing your exposure, a lot of ways right so so to meet my ex. I actually said this earlier today that you never want to like put yourself in a position where you're waiting to get picked right. Never so having this moment where it's like your promote each other stuff and and and everybody's got a boats rising with a tide legume everybody's make each other famous unpopular right away where we were all like trying to quietly huh

if the deal and governor go to auditions and go to readings and try to get the sitcom whatever it is and and kind of cut throat, the other guy it just ain't like nobody wins in that world, right, yeah, it's it's almost like you know this is going to sound silly, not to bring this back, but it's like you know. watching the grateful truck race the other day- and I was like she's in the world. By the way men did effort eleven years men, but is it interesting they were all in vegas and they were all going to different places. And, what's funny to me, as I thought like a like, it was like the the one guy into the to the vegas sign that the the lbg t q truck went to the lbj tq headquarters, which I thought was a fuckin cheat because they gilded people in and are buying their stuff. It's like. If they didn't, buy their stuff, they felt like they were coming a crime so like, but it was a, but it was really brilliant things. I thought as a comic and the way we operate outside. Are you going I'll just go in and I can do, but because it is always the same parking lot. The more food trucks

around the more I go: oh there, my options like yeah. That's what tell him all the time like. I quietly finally give them advice every episode right and then if I say something to one team I'll make sure that I'll circle back to the other team and make sure they get that same little, nugget of wisdom, but I I think, neil when the trucks can join up together and then, in that force it looks like there's a party going on birth by herself in the parking lot, looking like a loser right, like you're, with three or four shots like a party, and I want to know everybody I want. I want my party with all I think in there and that way we kind of look it look. I've said ups, I've said I've said privately. I've said publicly to every scripts and which I now I think is all discovery now, but rescript talent, that as long as I was over there, I said that every single one of them start a pike ass. I said to I said too, to the press

the scripts. I can't remember his name, the guy that lived in arizona had the big big big house with a garage I remember has shown in my man cave one time and he was like. Let me show you mine, then I saw the car then he goes he goes. He goes like this goes. How do I zoom out of this thing and I go? Oh, you pull your and, as I pull the fingers together, it was a match. Civic space like I got. What is that a bad cave and user price I said always our number one. Everyone should have their own podcast there they should, they should have. They should have eight years ago started a podcast network brought in the ad sales teams from food combine started their own ad sales. It would be a game changer, a game changer because they already have talent and buyers set up to work together. I might my thing I used to say his food network would always go up. We have the number one magazine in in the space when it comes

food? They would say that in France and I used to tell gregg region, if I do say it the one time you know we have been number one lifestyle plot gas network in the world one day, that's going to mean something at days now and I'm on it every single one of you. I mean we do something burning, my cookie. Shall we release an audio podcast? We do something burning uncut, where I just release from the second of might go on to the second mike's raw, and we will If the whole thing and it's more downloaded than my regular podcast and is just is but it's you know what it is. It's a meme just stealing from what you guys did. I love cooking, shows I love hearing people talk about food, I loved it and I loved the conversations that food brings in the conversations are always better. You always end up talking about your family or culture. You talk about all these great things or you talk about fucking, nothing did. You just haven't wine, yet I yeah that's right now, but I would love. I want everyone to start a podcast was it? Would we

We had a part in itself. My brand wolf down got started rights. We did on the target when we come up with a new bran. We go through this discipline called naming the baby guys with this, because it could, you can't think about. What the name of the baby is now you have to think about how people are going to make fun of them in the third grade in a playground re. So be a very thoughtful name. When you name a new project or start a new company is called naming the baby right. So we are trying to find this like witty, like a food ism that felt like yo, attainable the quick and simple to wolf down pop them buy the blu ray. So I copyrighted it. I've got one of the domains, the website, everything about that operate, and then we sign up. We started a podcast back in like two thousand that must have been two thousand and seventeen. We started podcast and we did. We did nineteen of them back to back to back and they got a little expensive to build producer. I I think a good piece of advice for everybody's, like how do you get over that hump? Because you can't you can't produce crap right. You can

use them it's an editor, but you can't produce crap. It's gotta have some sort of. Like you know, roll in music underlay got to do re commercials. You have to have some sort of policy so to give people that tool that can give them the ability to cross over the dry part where you're just doing it to do it until you get twenty thousand downloads at week. Twenty five thousand I was which cause that's always. That was the thing. Is that it it's not like. We need the money better, but it is just a restart burn from other pockets of cash that we had is paying for producers and stuff like that. Keep the whole thing going so how you guys kind of like jump in the podcast world the amelia sponsors are kind of lined up immediately. Have all this guy think? Is that part of the network too? That's well that what that is is that is, like you said, it's a camaraderie. So at one point when I was on travel upset

story a million times by fans, but rogen and borough were backstage at a store and I got off stage and they said I said it felt like they were talking about me and I said what's going on and they said your show sucks. I go really and then, like them, triplet it was trip flip and they were like it's not you, it's not who you are you're, not that guy you're, not a tv host. Your comic in your podcast, her like and burgos. What's, you're not, and I was like what is what you not I told him and he was like okay, alright, he's like well we'll get your sponsors will get your ad sales rep will get you we'll figure it out. but just get back on, say just get away from private channel and then luckily I think her name was Courtney. White fired me and the same thing happened here. We don't we're done. The pleasure, but I never actually worked with her, whose greatest thy name or because I am so grateful that she did it. She rightly people

was. It was the best thing that ever happened to me. I didn't see it at the time I was like you said I was panicked. I was lost. I was like what am I going to do? It was the lowest part of my life I was just like, but I my friends stepped up and they were like you. We need to get your podcasts and fifty thousand downloads at the time. That was the threshold. We got to get you fifty thousand downloads and apps are we? Are we there yet for per episode, and so they all jumped on my podcast they're, all the big names in comedy just started getting them, podcast and they were like come on that that that, to me is, is that kind of camaraderie? I wish other like sectors would do that right because, like it is some it's, I e have that teamwork right, we're all going to get through this together and collectively. You've you've reinvented comedy the other man, like you re at you, re invented comedy for a whole new generation of people introducing only characters and new favorites are like you're crystallize podcast like that's that

So yeah back, that's so interesting because he doesn't really have he does fuckin rifts off the top of his head, for an hour and a half about fucking, nothing, but it's so funny to watch me sort of like do it right and everybody's podcast is a little tiger belly. That's like I a tiger belize, the best podcast it, but it's like an eighty d fucking paying back and forth thing. That is the funniest fucking podcast to do in the universe, a bet about it as will do when you come back, Next time you go when the ship gets over got your restaurants and your restaurants. Opening with the with the warriors to make trip down their allay I'll. Put you on everyone's pike. Ass. You do a pike asked run. Its great press is ever the people to listen upon gas. They look good booze elevator It shows, and I love good food or wine. Mobile do whole thing, be fun, be fun, it'll, be a blast and I'll get you on tiger belly like it'll, be do a podcast run together or we just go and you gotta be Joey Diaz's, either fucking started death and do Joey Diaz is on my own

bring it might bring us pass a man like the parcel of a short memory, but I wish I could get you guys. I know foods very, like probe proprietary about who gets on cooking those. By wishing to bring you guys on somethin's Berne and I'd love to do. I have a very old school contracted, so I'm unclear do anything. I want the enemy like food. Like I work with it a working like I can't we. I can't remember the exact terms. What I can't you would somebody else with all this stuff is clear. I mean It's that I could I didn't, I gotta get out of here and there a busy day but men. I could talk to you for hours. I haven't even scratch the surface. So if you want to do another that one of these while we're in quarantine, if you got a free day, I would love to talk to you. I can't ever since I you know I never even got to well, you know and and honestly like I, I could talk to you and talk to all of your, your, your your your colleagues, you know and and like this space right now, because I'm such a fan of comedy right, I mean I'm such a fan,

like four years like I would, if I were a by, was in l shooting. I would go to the comedy store by myself and his watch makes for five hours and I, like wouldn't come I saw her like fucking fifteen years ago. I would like just like they just don't like do anything and and so to me like I like, seeing all the guy. be so while we successful and collectively as a group rise to the top of the gene run away. but no one's will stand the now everybody's collectively as a group and with no e no- and I love the way you guys bust, each other's balls on on on podcasts and stuff, like that, it's just like and the fighter and the kid is that fun or what? Oh fuck yeah such brutal. I guy catalan is like human prozac man. He makes me giggle hardest. Fuck

brand. New saab is like a huge baby. Brent shop is straight up athlete, like you forget what a fuckin athlete he is he's in like or is it? Oh he's a beast. He is a beast. He did a hot spin with me one time and you forget: oh, he was also a professional. Athlete like I just his his go mode is different than the average humans come out and he's also like, like a man, like you didn't bring any water he describes. Water bottle takes us, it puts a bad stuff that, like polite society ignore like doesn't do. Wherein is obvious. Very like a big farm yeah and embrace cowan and we didn't listen to sort of like buster balls as friends, I'll. Tell you what I'm gonna do a press run for your part, gas with all our all my bodies and all the ones you love, because new.

brian cowen need to go out to dinner together. He, like he bing yeah, he's a very big footie like a legit big foodie. Like I mean he was probably the last person in restaurants when coronavirus hit in years, like none on our one more When I read, I know it, we did during like the german pockets he's always late got wanted jews, oh yeah, he's a liar djibouti and one of the swedish bonniest guys in the fuckin world. Like oh fun, out of it blast wall dude, I'm gonna, let you get out of here than I am, and I've been a fan for probably twenty twenty years. It is so great to talk to you, I've, I've, I've I feel like I, I feel like we're family, because we were under the same umbrella for such a long time yet, and I feel, like we've, had similar paths in lives in that you know, when you talked about, you know two thousand and eight and they're pulling back contracts. I was there and I that that backbone thing- and this is if we can put a stamp on this of of like

motif that backbone thing is what everyone's going through right now is like. This is the the strong you are you're only the strongest at your broken parts, and you gatlin try to break you and and and that we're all I went do that right now and then some people are much more extent as I myself or maybe you or maybe maybe Allan or maybe brittany, shaw or maybe rogan. Maybe it's a lot tougher for a lot of people. I think that's the clear part, but but it's everyone's going to look back and go. Oh okay! I got through it. I get I got through it and- and I I think that's the message for everybody right now: you're you're you're gonna get you're going to get through it. He got it most important things to healthy gray and and and be really really kind of everybody cause. You know, I have no idea what somebody his day is like, but no this will. This will pass we'll we'll be okay, but wait for us to and stuff like this right. I mean we're like we're not going to

we're not going to let the flame go out on anything then never, never like. I, I I so as much as you love awesome food network. I gotta tell you, I love you guys back because, like you crack me up every fucking day the enemy. I love I love painted in the past. I marvel at the solidarity while you guys kind of hang together through thick or thin, and and and and and especially now, I have like burn through all of like the new stand up comedy specials on netflix, because I'm sick of bad news. I don't want to fucking watch economy's woeful over and over again, and I gotta tell you that you, you, you are The top of your game, your fucking funny like and- and I gotta tell you and as everyone else is telling jokes your storyteller and I I think in the end, this really kind of like mark TWAIN conaway like you've, got this ability to hold people's attention by telling a story that really happened to you and very authentic as fuck unreal and circle brother, nothing,

respect and love. Thank you so much. Let me get through this. Get you down to allay. Oh look at that beautiful. In pointer added, went round and edward just still up in California, you now disliked cookie and hanging out, Levin life and and but he has eaten for dinner tonight and what am we going to eat? You don't have any thought about a we got some stuff in the kitchen and with new york strip. I guess me accepted came in I've got so that that this. Is the fun thing about being a chef and quarantine that people send you shit like so working with? Are my meat distributor cream co at open? I just got a big box of like some dope stakes, man, I'm so I'm cooking, your extremo, the best part about being gases is, I got omaha stakes. I got butcher box, I got blue apron. Thing in that. Unlike my sponsors about we'll get what you meant, I I may have the busted. All the best. It was a blast for doing this father, I'm so glad he did it. Man me too, thank you, brother, then,

He said this absolutely