Oh hey guys brandyball guest. It's the burden for crisis is one of three. gas today out is a brand new tubers one cave. I think a new billboards out and then I drop this one- I got hazy trail grown up this week- he's gonna these so come out on friday, show time, but we are here today to talk about big white whale I've been trying to get patent on the podcast for a long time. I may do huge man upon us. What does you'll find throughout this podcast? I think look not embarrassed of the fact that I'm in love with stand up comedy and I'm in love with great comics, I love great comedy and patent is one of the best. I first saw him at the el rey and zach often actually doing show there and I went to go, see sacraments talking a fucking, a huge fan as access it before

they are doing a comedians comedy one of my favorite documentaries. Ever I watched it when you he was just in it call me central in yonder watch chunks of it and I want to watch Zack. There's act was, I think, one in nyc's was wrestling a watermelon like a really weird show. It was a real we showed, but bandages straight stand up and he told his joke that fucking Lord me, I mean really honestly for me was about his baby. Are we talk about the joke, a tad bit here, but Yeah I've been trying to get them on the podcast for a long time. A huge fan. He is one of the best writer sambo burned. Doug stand up, have such an ability to grab, phrases and make them so real. I wish I was smarter cause. Then I use bigger words to describe this. But they can surmise a situation or feeling or evoke

omen in life with phraseology that just blows me away. Is my favorite thing of stand up? I love it so much. I wish I could do it more. I just don't I just don't. I just dami look, there's lot of things I wish I could do better, and just amazing come we talk about him being on the king queens a little bits we talk about. If you dont know whence comes up, and I don't think I was super clear, But I'm feeling a lot of you will know. Patent lost his wife, I think about the year, have to yours. Go talk about that kind of quickly. We talk about morning. We talk about that very quickly in the region at the very end. I talk about his new wife. I dont think I say that I'm talking about his new wife. I think I just ask him if he wants to move, she was when we were kids, and so, if you are a little confused, the and that's what I was talking about today is far gases brought by teach hamley. I started noticing those having problems of my skin older. I got I felt like I feel like I felt like. I would get these little break out in my beard and an eye would notice

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I hope you guys don't look at me. Like Jesus Christ, burt get a fucking room, but I'm just a huge fan of his. He has just had such an amazing career. I didn't even talk about the movie. He did the fan, which was when he played to a fatty. It's called the family called the fan. It was when he played in new york giants fan, who kind of lost his shit a little bit of such a great fucking movie. I talk a little bit about the about the comedians of comedy. We talk a little bit about nerd culture, about how it's like what it's like, having daughters, talking about being apparent a tad bit too great fucking podcast, it's a really great fucking podcast for the exam. The biggest fan, it's called big sand. Big fan, big fan, my bed and yeah. It's a great podcast, you're, gonna love. It we've got it, I'm going to run through the list of ones. We've got backlogged we're going to put the brakes on do a podcast for a little bit, because I am fucked and overwhelmed I've done so many guests guess got one cabinet with Joe buck

oliver hudson. We got one with David waned. We got one this one with patent tomorrow. Gonna really relate re release. A zeus, tray homes got a special airing friday night on showtime. We I cast with mark norman john reep, Jay, Pharoah jessica, curse on Matt iseman. I mean we're locked and loaded, I'm trying to put out as much content as possible for everyone. I got a big announcement coming up that I I'm sure I may be bring up in the some of these podcasts, but I haven't really officially announced, and I will let you the second I do so I going to do another I'll, let you know. Obviously you know that It's got a new special streaming right now on netflix called. I love everything. Ladies and gentlemen. Without further ado stand up comedian, author actor, don't think he has a podcast with a brain- is vessel on netflix called? I love everything. Ladies and gentlemen, that novel

the. Where are you and your screening room yeah where you I'm in my man, cape? That's a that by weight, if that doesn't define the two different men right there, I have I am. I am consistently The things I love are the things comics loved to make fun of men about, like I am Kevin James from came queens. Well I mean- This is just all I have is a young. is a movie nerds version of a man. Came I just this watch movies like that's what I like doing. I've got my criterion channel and I'm happy silks and it's no I get just as wound up about this shit. Is people get worked up about sports and wrestling its net, it's literally if the same noting that such a different view

I tried to write a. I can't judge people, unlike what their nerdy about, because I'd be exact same energy. I tried to write a joke about The last answer, the jordan documentary being game of thrones for sporting together I became a throne, such J. I mean you. one of the guys that I remember what held like tomorrow night, is exactly yeah. Yes, I did by the way. I'm sport, I dont, really why don't watch sports as it happens, but sports documentaries. I love I've watched every thirty, four thirty, that that muhammad ali documentary on h b o any sports documentary I'll, I watched all of them. Adam curl, is racing documentaries on netflix. I love that world do that because the personalities are so goddamn crazy, yeah, oh one hundred per cent because they have to be they

I have to be kind of crazy in order to win like they have to believe their gods. Do you think it's fascinating that? Do you think it's fascinating that in a weird way our culture now in- and I say this because when you were growing up Never would have happened when you were a child, but on our gen, are our cultures now celebrate the same intensity people of sports with as the same intensity? They love comic books. and in an end, in star wars and fantasy and and move Yes and literature is not crazy. Well, but I wonder, is that because this Our culture is gone away or because in this seventies sports were where the money was, so it made sense, but the people wanting it to get people feverish about the superbowl. The NBA championships the minutes and then they they couldn't. He got away to monetize people being in a comic books and then, when their technology caught up and make it make

spider man swing around and wolverines clause pop out a witch, that, and they already had the model from decades of making sports fans go crazy and they make it? Doesn't it? but the same model under superhero films and superhero culture, its ai weiwei, two I'd. Never I'm not a big comic book. I am not. Big nerd culture guy it just it wasn't my daughter, Oddly enough are both obsessed ones obsessed with anime, and one is obsessed with books. I mean really o o yeah, oh wow yeah. I begin what it is patent is that the same way. I don't I don't know you're really should be their father and but up, but I'm assuming for some reason, I'm assuming because his dc, I think I know it or virginia but unfair, but it's like the way that may be fathers didn't embrace us as children. When our personally started to shine, I had I had a great avenue in nerdy smelter and meltdown comic books

as a comic to lean and go hey, my daughters are into some shit. Can you help me and men and say what want, and I say what you want about. Sometimes snobbery culture in there that you can see that places, men every fucking person, I've ever met at a comic book store, has been coolly. Shit to me going I dont know what I'm looking for. I just need, like an role they ve, been amazing. Umbrella academy is like our thing, my oldest daughters, obsessed with umbrella academy, the runaways like all these great, and it was just cool deeds and checks at get comic books what's going on, but let's go for a walk and walking around and showed me what they're into or did if they like this, a little we I'm over here, because I've got eight of the things develop. Yeah I mean I also. a lot of them. You and I know we go

in an era where sometimes your your parents would try to force their likes on you and and my my mom and dad neither of them are into science fiction or that my dad was a big sports guy. My mom, you know was just didn't care about any of that. So I found what I was supposed to find by myself. So I'm very much about my daughter isn't really into superheroes all that much and I'm not going to be a jock dad about superheroes with her mature gonna watch. Every event if you're going to understand. I showed the first star wars and she was like it's it's fine. I don't care. So I'm not going to be that guy that wants to make a carbon copy of themselves. They just that's, never fun, you know, so I don't do that. I just I I let her find her own thing. Yeah b, a or a you know it's one of the The thing is, I things happen. Is people being allowed to going hey I'm into that india? Bit too, his gendered homosexual.

I, like you name it Julia, and the coolest thing is that people go amen to that and not feel like they're going to get shamed for it. The deal the easter cut. My hair grew up really closeted and really scared in washington state back in the seventies and eighties like and it was rural farm land, and so he he was gay, but he he yoked kept that quiet and played football and beat up kids that they thought were gay with the other jocks like protect himself and the it's a blackout drunk and hated himself, and then he moved down to l a and came out of the closet. Now he's married he's totally happy, but he has this nephew who goes to his old high school and he's very overprotective of him, because nephew is very openly very defiantly, gaelic gay and I don't care who knows it, and so my friends, only reference point is while you get your ass kicked if you're gay in highschool so is really like

we went fucking with you in high school and he said it. He went back home for thanksgiving one year and was asking his nephew. Like a is anyone messing with you cause? I know your in high school and you're, very open about your sexuality and his nephew was like it's pretty rough man. They're. Not they don't treat us very well. Nothing's really changed. My friend got really defensive, he's like what are they doing today? What they're doing I'll I'll talk you through this as well, are gay, lesbian and trans I wanted to have their problems are the same night is the regular problem there making us wait. Two weeks, the have our prime minister, The absolute oppression and my friend had dick had to stop going go fuck yourself. Are you kidding? That's why you did it. You have a broad like they were just like those different I things were so elaborate. Yes, then he added he was suddenly the euro. Now. Are we now that yet ended? They stop that used to be such a big deal for us growing up

Is it not a big deal? It's not a deal at all like you couldn't even do but gets weird to do tv shows now where I've noticed cause a lot of it. Young adult shows that my daughter watching my daughter in the fourth grade, and they have characters dinner, gay and lesbian, and it's not apply point It's not that's, not up a story anymore. Just like you something, J. Some of them are treated like no one gives a shit anymore. It's just not a thing. Would you would do I? I have a lot and I think, a lot of people, and I wonder if you fight about this once with you within yourself on stage, so many people have ideas of who you are politically What I know that I I know that I have that sometimes like lately, I wrote a joke about a I had a dream. I had a dream that I that kendall jenner said I can have sex with her. If I could catch him, fucking elephant It was like it was just a dream and then I rolled over and I woke up- and I was gonna- tell my wife. He started flirting with me and homes again

I'm not into it and then in my head I was like. I was just about a fucking elephant in a dream, but then here I don't want to search my wife, but then I was like the guy, you know it was. I share that all state that may not be like there might be fans it'll get it. So I kind of edit myself, sometimes Why is a multi layered question, but do yeah happening when you write? Is that your fans almost expecting from you that sometimes you can't deliver like you go? I dont know. Why do you think I am? I am just a do and how do you do tat? Well, my thing now that I keep really hammering the people is as far as like political correctness goes, and this whole woke culture. We have to have two things. At the same time, we have to have context. Look at the context, things. Never ever release context, and we also, but we also need evolution. So you he had have. There are certain at an I have their stuff in my first first couple albums, and I looked back the good very freely throwing around

They are the words retarded one of my favorite patent, one, my favorite jokes, and I am I it's. I was just talking to secure about this literate. an hour ago and if I don't know how in politically correct it was by just remember voices, but you dvr joke is one of the greatest fucking jokes, one of the great an honest the patent. I can tell you I was when I saw it in, and I was blown away at how seamless you were on the stage how comfortable you want to state how everything's did seem to come looming as a professional comedian. I was floored at that joke. It's one of my favorite jokes. But yes again, you run it through the strainer of today's political correctness and it may catch some stags, but it's not a mean joke. No, and also again keep the contacts in mind if you're looking at something that things on twenty years old, so an absolutely crucial, what I'm gonna do it and then let but let the other the fork answering them, but the other person go. Oh yeah I didn't know any better and and I've evolved. If is if the person then do.

Examining those I appeal the drive for not like it. reaching joke. Businesslike Do you like no power? she's. No regrets that if possible, you're always gonna make fuck ups in your life and you gotta, just god, my yeah. I got me again putting luminal on people's twitter feeds and interim feeds. You know if they say so awful two weeks ago. Yes, maybe let's look at that, but if you did up someone's tweet from you, no two thousand eight give them a little bit. Aruba got. You know like yeah, I shouldn't I said that I am now an ice totally no better and sorry I you know so again. It's gonna be a concept balancing act between give the people there. woke when they needed to be woke, some contacts, but then, but and also the people that are maybe fighting against the so called workpeople people, so called pc police look at. but they're asking you and go pay. Maybe I could evolve. Maybe

all they're asking for our are better get jokes, It might like? No one saying no get jokes. No gay jokes, you like, find and even more brilliantly vicious way to do this. Man that's work love is dead, there's nothing better for medium and having stuff you're not supposed to say and you get to find amazing ways around it. You know I still it did it Who worse things are anyone can say whatever they want, will now there's no risk or don't say that things, and everyone is immediately shuts down and what goes at which the best thing is that the great sweet spot in the middle right. I know that was decided How do we find the middle ground here and it's perfect like that, so much fun. Someone told me one time it was a Jim jefferies as a joke about oscar pistorius, and they were saying why love this joke cause? It's just he's just doing a disabled joke really

but but he's tricked us into going he's outraged at the murder of this woman. It's, I don't remember the joke, but it's your right. Finding a work around it almost is like the real treat in comedy. Yes, I remember he emo philips. One of the best joke writers alone, a bloodbath joke writers ever read like on it we level UK's like they should just and by the way they should teach his jokes to beginning comedians of don't try this at first you need to work up to this. This is where you'll get to He had the best. Woody allen, joke I've ever heard witches and an end to imagine it in his voice were I'll. Try to his voice. Labelling goes on soon. He was now years old when woody Allen first met her and he waited till. She was eighteen to have sex with her patience of a saint.

but like there's so many levels that they're like that, the clues of him saying it like just that kind of oh, I just love those workarounds yeah. I do too. I haven't. We What people should celebrate now is the workers. Thank you pc. Culture for giving us the ability to do the work around now, because then you really those startling moments in all my god. They wow. You know, and you know what I would you comedy has always had that standard to an extent. Yes, yes, if you did a lazy, just heard some feelings kind of joke. I remember Colin Quinn, calling out someone in an article one time going: hey we get it. You say you're, just a dick, a joke comic, but strive for more and then we'll. Let us call you a dick joke homage god, that's great! Well, that's like

we spoke about when, like a comedian is innate. I do believe that the best audiences always every year, performing in front of at that moment and comedians nation. Sure whether it will get there- will go well we're in roanoke this week. So you don't really mean these. People are all fucking eight. How about the maybe rise to the occasion treat every audience like they're gonna surprise you and don't have expectations for them. I mean there's, there's brilliance and and quirkiness everywhere, just go our task, a loser. So who cares about Jim dick jokes now get me a day deserve the best up. Well, that's the thing that, the really blew my mind about an end. I have to say, This is a a I. I call my god channel markers in that we grow up in florida, so you're going out to the ocean you're. Looking at Oh margaret, you know that you would be safe and kind to give. You guidance of where things could also go comedian.

The committee is the greatest. I might have watched that a hundred times it was my guilty. It was my warm blanket. The same way flesh wasn't I started college. When I had kids- and I wanted to do the road- and I didn't- I was bad we do in the road towards a piece of work, but I I was in my apartment. open a bottle of wine, and I would just started beginning to end watch the entire I once it was like a sick sport, they did it. Never so the way I got it yeah when it reminds us that episode and netflix did the actual duck mary, so the documentary led into the tv show it was an idea about wonder to show how do you want do this. This is what company on the road is like. There is work to it. There is no actual. Just dull labour. Every day before you get to do the fun stuff, but was also this great, show of that and a new and stand hope and I would argue, like tom, bury David cross talk. The talk bury David cross where the wants to say I to really work outside

the system? Yes, they with the first ones. I was very, very much inspired by todd and david of It was well that that all four was worked outside of the system, give them credit as well, they were they were the ones that you guys are all the same kind of touchstone. We were like only through comic clubs. I can do this my own way. Yeah. I got a fine. I gotta go Finally on his goes because we had also came out of me, it was partially my thoughts. I was very lazy. I've gotten on the king and queen through to the really funny show in a really successful show, but it was an eight o clock. You know monday night kind of family show it was very funny, but I started get headline in gigs edward people coming to see me who knew me from king of queens but didn't know the actual. Stop that I did and I was lazy going it give me the headlining gigs rooms pack, I don't gotta do any work and then I realized, no, you need to maybe start educating your audience will have, but it can't just be you show up and there it is it's got to be. You know, give and take back and forth. So that's when I started develop

think but to me it's a comedy- and I was also very- and I'm sure, you've had this too, where I had to struggle friend, Brian and zach and maria that I thought were being served by the comedy clubs. While all thought were brilliant and who were really butting their heads against the comedy club structure that and let's get them all out of here- let's go find rock clubs, music clubs and little indie stuff, and that's in that really and then I fino it again. I was inspired by what David cross did and then it's very it makes me very feel really good to see. Mean, started doing that is well and then really good voice started building and I think that's kind of it happening. Also podcast robotic means we're going. I

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really have a hard time, and even when my joke books are all just one word, it's like you. You know goat and then I'm like, oh yeah, what the money is. This could. My job books are also one word or like a concept. The couples ends, and then I go go in front of an audience working at out, so have you been struggling. Now that all the clubs, your clothes, like, I miss the many store and the law cargo, any improper and the Virgil really really badly cause. That's right went out the work, my stuff out, yeah. I miss I'm having a really hard time, nothing. I write as one more and I know the way I wanted to that. Even still, I find myself going to my nose. so my phone and then saying at the way I want to say it come. I don't forget this is how likewise, I may read what time is it? I won't know how I intend the joke to be our shit. I never thought of that year. Right. The inflection alone can be a new angle to the joke whereby

I'll be honest with your eyes when I, when I, when this comes back, one thing I really. I really feel like I have been lazy with this stage time in l, a I I'm on the road nonstop and one of the one of the things. I think that comp definite compliments I'll pay. You is that watching guys, like yourself and and many other guys in what you would all call the alternative scene was, is kind of how I ice. I realized that it didn't have to be set up punch for me. Rather, I had a hard time fitting in hardly because I just like I said it write a word down and I knew what I wanted it sound like and I just speak it and it wasn't like set a punch, although I have a very bro, comedy body and face. I always feel like. I would. I would love to try some of my material. Like places like largo or or or the Virgil or different places to kind of-

I did. I did a spot one time. I tried the machine story. I tell I don't know verbiage about going above the rush mafia and I told him one time at nerdist meltdown and it was a completely different story because they were like comedy fans ready to listen and arriving willing to go with you, and you like this, isn't like just a bunch of drunk europeans. This is I don't. I don't need to rush to keep the audience is attention. I can actually take some time and do some stuff here I mean that that color, I again you know that there's wrists both ways, though the main she clubs, I loved him, because out for you, edit and own, the risk in only doing the mainstream clubs. Is you began to have that same kind of impersonal rhythm because, like you said, I've got to keep these people's attention and in the alt rooms, where you get to write and explore more, but there's a danger there too, and this happened to

a lot of comedians in the larger days, which is the audience, is show there for you almost to a fault, sometimes that you don't learn how to edit, and you think that everything that I remember I forgot who Oh Mitch. Hedberg was on stage the larger one night and he was doing a lot of you or judge and a lot of half one jobs that either. He wouldn't say that loud sectors are not there yet he's working on them, but the crowd was going nuts equally for everything and and then mix stop any goes. Beware of any comedian who writes for, half an hour and says they have a half an hour of material which was coming his way of going a killer app now were set at the long ago, is probably about eight to nine minutes. Sound material on the road like economy like yours, stream from the gold right. So maybe you know keep it just keep it in perspective. Urine thing what I think is so great about you and what

you do is that you can take something you know. I hope you will see this as much as a compromise as it met is met you can do observational material at times. But it has such your thumbprint on it it doesn't seem as observational material. Your references you said I, just started watching especial this morning. First of all, king, amazing everything I everything about. It is everyday. I love about a fucking special. I did play an you, tell a joke and it started, and I might that's what I'm talking about. That is my. That is my. That is my boy. Ramaker or whether or not a bit like a specialist, how quickly we get ended its yeltsin But one of the things I love is: is you talk about the color of the zero boxes, new column, hospital white and I go? This is your this is you'd. This is an observation on the terrible grown ordering getting zero, but used such your own fucking thumbprint links were like,

and we just when you say europe steam from gold strike, how the fuck, what like look I just I read a lot. I watch a lot of movies. I like listening the people, how they talk different areas, different accents and there are just certain phrases that about and they just lay dormant, my head until I need them like. I trust that something that I hear remember Stephen king said he actually doesn't keep a notebook if a if an idea to sustain his head. He knows it's not worth pursuing as waiters and bother writing things down and how trained he is now- and am I mean I still write stuff down but there's other supreme like. I trust that when the time comes, that thing will leap forward and then that's where like that without came from, I write. I write them down in it and I think I write them down in like, like others, a there's: a convert commercial for a new names, a weight loss at the end

This guy goes this guy he's just a struck me funny. It's the only way to say this. Respectably goes on the third generation candy maker and all I could think was all the different ways he said it without. The brick like without them known it sounds. We are meagre, our common chop, it factory he'd like that comes out wrong, say it again so, but the third duration candy maker gave it a little bit of, and so I just wrote, gonna go somewhere third generation candy maker or just the idea nor can we make her at all. Is is occupationally I always wondered that about. You is because you have such great mean you. I remember reading, Was it where wilson lollipops? Yes? Yes, whereas, whereas up to our, I remember reading that and I visualize a scene in my head off I'm all the time and I don't even know how accurate this is about a kid sitting. Find the boot that a movie theater reading his book to himself just reading and I

and I read that and I visualize it so well that I went goddammit patten is in a Harold in nineteen thirty five he would have been a just a novelist living in france like like it's your you're, such a great fucking writer, Thanks man, Thank you. I mean I again being a great right. Regular jet fuckin fan michael. I have everything like thank you. mean it comes from I read a lot and there are certain and I read it nothing! I know a like I'm in a red size picture. I always get the yields, from an amazing waiting. We had a right red sports writing every year. I get there america's best for training, compilation, sports writing as some of the best. he's algae and some of the best like there are certain words they pop differently in your head. No I'm emulate great comedy words. Words like cancer what it is, but that just there there there's.

longer and they land harder. You know so I mean you know It's just an instinctual thing that you learn over the years. So do you ever you ember have such a you to specifically have such a stop in the back of a club and hit another comic sanccob as the same thing. Yeah you go god dammit man is the is the is the the the quickness the quickness of getting to the point with so few words that are so colorful yeah. Well, people like bird have that thing where your watch them and then you'll sub cant or your very quietly. The comedians will repeat back the punchline just to hear what it sounds like coming out in your skull discourse, What was paler, let me play that guitar for a second year, I gotta, like you just one here, how that feel, because forgiving exactly what it is- and I remember people like him Rain reagan, appalling tomkins. There are those words

smith, where when they said somebody who's gonna go, I mean to say, our shit. That was good like the thiel, your help. It feels like coming out of your at all that feels good, not aspire to that, that is ed, so perfectly that his exact I've done that I've done that we stay up. I've done, there with you, I ve done it with. It's amazing that is other comics. Just like your going to try to try that goddammit you're so like well, standards especially is so aware of italy. There are moments. There are certain countries. Were you all right, hear him smacking his lips ass, he said that is so happy. What is good about this say this phrase like oh here, comes the really juicy bite at stake here we got like they do that We are a moment like that, and I found I was very Very proud of myself is a bit of a brand new special. I have a phrase. You don't want some ropey fitness or climbing all real, I used the phrase ropey fitness org.

this guy those guys at work out too much words like you're to help. Now is unattractive anymore. Like now, you just three beat and doubts What am I stand? Hobo, mr, like I cannot wait I say when at when that phrase came to be, and then I didn't want that at the improv Dana Gould come he was like he just would ropey fitness. or like he was so happy at those three words together, Dana goals are known as guys they just has those perfect lips smacking little like oh, it's right. There then a good at it. Funny man there you get. I think we can all appreciate the like the Dana Goodwin, I love when he gets, to a point where he does something and then has to explain why he did that to the audience, and whites can value was under appreciated and you get any sitting in the back going you you you just. there's something I do on stage, and I didn't know why I didn't. I just do a guy last and then you broke down the theory of it right

and you're one hundred percent correct everything. You said you absolutely nailed in its indisputable. What you to set your right like that'll, be in my head, now. He was it when you, when you first started when you first started, was that when these split with the all in kind of Oh, but I say broken, etc. They are. We are now more but, like the all any more campi seen the more like clubs scene was that when that was no. When I started it was weird I started and am actually fortunate than I did. I started nineteen eighty eight I went, but my with so much date was the same night as chapels. First, I'm on stage was July. Eighteen, nineteen, eighty eight- he was fourteen years old. I do see a garbage comedy club in washington, DC

and he was fourteen years old and went on stage and it looked it felt like he'd, been doing it for thirty years. He just was Bam. It was just amazing and but I started just as the boom was starting to end. So there was still this ghostly feeling of there's a million comedy clubs, and even a mediocre comedian can make fifty to one hundred grand a year as as annie kill you to save. If you could a good evening, ladies and gentlemen, for a time in the early eighties, you could make one hundred grand a year like they just needed warm bodies. They didn't give a shit, so I saw people that had gotten kind of lazy. me and leaned on the same forty five minutes and were overspent because in their minds like I'll, be making, you know five grand a week forever and then suddenly every club is gone and I'm watching older comedians getting houses. Reaper as two cars. So I learn very early a today's rainy day in this business, just or to whatever you make fertility made half of that, but the other half way who are then

from I. I also saw the frustration of in comedy when so much was already taken. As a given well when you do come, and you have to do this, you have to do this. You have to address this way. You gotta talk this way and then, when it I'll call, and I saw all these people just kind of sad adrift, and then I moved to san francisco and ninety two. That was what I saw the beginnings of the so called out, see which were comedians. They just wanted to do it even if they had to have day jobs like they just want to be on stage doing their own being and that kind of built that seen up from their and inwardly enough, even though, if you call it like the bro comment for the club comics, but those guys, the so called bro comic, still came out of the same motivation of I wanna do this, no matter what so to me like that,

argos scene or do you, you know that the queens of comedy to me is no different than skank fest or anything else which is let's build. Our own thing bind our own crowd and- and I anything it doesn't matter, if I agree with it went through with them politically or in subject matter of faith and as a matter, I love the fact that creative people are like fuck it I'll just do it myself. That always makes me excited because it means the industry is really vital. You know it's amazing! You did you you I mean I saw you was both. I never saw you as one of the other, but because I would watch you do material that would kill him any room and where, whatever the fuck, wanted to wear clothes, were important to you Can I remember it was a that that that there was a thing about where they just wasn't. My crowd- and I think was louis decay, said to me any make any crowd. The crowd, that's your job. It doesn't matter who you are in front of you make any crowd your crowd. So I always just kind of kept that

in mind. But you know again in the mid eighties, comedy was very profitable, but it was dead because it was a very profitable, narrow, cookie cutter thing, the people decide spected to get the same prompter everytime. Now how many is a little more precarious, but it's never been more lies. You know it's very, very hard to make living as a comedian. People that are doing it are so feisty and committed, and you know yes comes at each other's throats and huge battles, but that's what happens when really creative opinionated people get together. There wasn't any massive battles going on during the comedy boom. no just when you go in. There We talk about airline, food and dogs and cats near there. You make your paycheck eagle go now it's this.

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those guys who's. He seems equally big and bulky. Please weirdly, I want to address. One has almost is like Barletta quality to him. It should it's gonna of offsetting willing. All I didn't know he was so like coordinate. It is amazing to see that and he's just these amazing doing that and what a great ghastly remedy is a fuckin monster is a monster. They don't make. They don't make that anymore, no emmy just meet. She took on the goddamn churches. get me so I sum She told me a really funny story. Was teasing her about. When battlefield earth came out, there came out why we are working on king. You know why you must be real excited for EL runs, a movie come around her and she sure do having, because they had go triple a

mirror last night he was like up in some theatre like way up where you'd like take trams and stuff to go up there for the theater was so that they could then put us back on the tramps and take us to the after party and get us all gushing about the movie, and she goes you know I guess I've never seen so many people come out of a movie, see the trams they get. There are gonna, take them to the after party and get them on camera going it's the best scientific there they're all running away and makes you me and my friends I walked down to them mountains of away to avoid having to be on camera talking. Just to all these it's just like trooping through the woods, try to avoid having to give a good review, the apple for which is just a bet. Such a great visual helier than an airy stiller was on that jerry stiller would come into a room. He would get here get a laugh on his set up lines like, in other words, he was so funny it how he could deliver everything. I remember he came

there was a scene in the first point. Is you walk to the kitchen? Is hello, douglas and begging? you know Joe the decision about the way he said it got a laugh and almost do real the scene because they had it really. It was just he was such a master or that you personally job was that your first big job, my first my first pay job, was as a video store, a clerk unsigned belt and ninety ninety four one line got my after card, but king of queens was my first steady like, oh, my god, I'm a cast member of a series. Here I go and it was. It was the best I had so much from the metro and all if the writers were like the biggest stoners, we would all go to vegas for the week and we rent a bus and I'll go massive poker tournaments. Every friday night after we wrapped shooting it was just the best, Fine, I'm always curious. I noticed a shallow question, but I feel like one of the things that everyone's was curious about money but like what was the first

tell me how much money you're making on king of queens unless you want to, but at what was the first. Like did you I remember I remember going over to cabin james, is apartment drinking queens and he had a cherokee, a jeep cherokee and I had already bought a a expedition like the brand new eddie bauer and I was living in session be the mills old house and I thought I may not be spending my money wisely wow you're? Ok? Well, I all? I remember is the first thing I had: I got a staff writing job was my first actual big job on an ad td for two seasons. I actually earth's dignity,

So the first thing that I did was all the money I made on that I had a manager who gave me an excellent card and shit so that I could buy gas to go to gigs I'd saved every receipt, and I did this. It felt so good to come in. I took my very first paycheck and all the receipts and I paid off all the gas he had bought me like it. We made a big deal for me to get to pay off this credit card that he got me, but then, when I got the first, the job and king of queens, I saved up like the first couple of seasons of money. I still lived in a really dinky apartment on wendy, but I say to all the money, because I wanted to pay my parents back for college. I wanted to pay off the four years. They are paid for college and they were so upset by that like they wanted, it was their dream to pay for their sons, college and not have him pay them back, since they were very insulted. So then suddenly come up with this big water money that I then just put right back in the savings. I again

I I started off during that time when it's like there's not a lot of money, save everything because it all this is a very you know and look what's happening right now. This is a catastrophic business that we operate in it Oh my boss, no middle ground. It makes me it makes me it makes me feel, to know that you're, not a flash car flashy I need to drop money blow money on the elderly because it may it reassures who I who we you know, I'm certain. It must happen with people who think of what my life is like, but you know when you're fan of someone and I always come at every. I got a fan of comedy, I'm a fan. I made my good medium, but I am a jet, a fucking fan of comedy and you will I watch it cause. I watch comedy all that I love it. I love it. Others, nothing better than laughing. Yet women new specials out doug stand up special rapidly.

Days when I was so excited, you know, he's got a great bit about calling india during customer service, it's fucking monstrous, What I would like now, what people are doing that thing? The terms cigarette that film he shot to promote his tour operators, during the dancing. Don't don't don't dare promote talk you know you do that. For me, I thought you started that right. I know you did that's what I love it. It was so hilarious to me, though, that he should openly with the most subtle. wearing stealing from bureaucratic, sure and also he's opening it up with ease, the dancers going got his heart, but you know you know, he's probably talks like just thickets We got that may be so happy that, even though the waiter from putting things always like I gotta work. On my promo videos from my tour, because I usually just let them like cut together up for my last special make no doubt

it was like that's a new high bar. I gotta do something really good read it. I really feel when a time with comedy were it's meant to be fun again were were meant to make each other law and just do the videos that would do the things that we feel like we have any cigarettes angle is like I've made money, I'll drop, fucking forty granddaughter fuckin, music betty. I know and affection the fact that you're sitting there he's- deep, faked EU auditor's, morbidly obese body with a bucket that says it sets much you It's made his fucking day we literally spent where we'd literally just spent thirty minutes talking about you, but then also it was the other thing too, and it goes back to Kevin James. You look at me. Tom looks like just this kind of big. Wilkie guy administrate deity like oh shit, the guy actually has an raising centre of balance. Clearly has some court straight back what the fuck

it's. So you do not expect him to be busting out. Those moves to stand here I was that was a watch that lie within the day had dropped and it was monument however things I've seen. I told him ago go. This is like a love letter to me like this. It is it's a love letter, but again It's a love letter by someone who doesn't understand how insulting he's being like in his mind, he's like- and this is my tribute to pre crash- he like Do you know what a tribute is because this is a real offensive in the like below? those in that thing made me. Oh god, I hear Can you mention I'm only on lemme laughing? Does when you mention you, dont have a flash car. My car is now eleven years old, the front bumpers love, because my thing is, I'm I cannot. You know, I'm going to save money not going to my car and my wife had to sit me down literally with like a legal pad and go

that the money you are now spending to repair this car. You could just have a monthly payments on a new car and not spend as much We pay like she had to literally walk me through, like I'm a five year old, like you need to get a new car, this, your car, you driving was built in the nineties. It's the year ago, twenty twenty, let's get you a new car, so it won't lunch. Pandemics. Alright, we'll get a new carpet like she literally had delight show because my things like you know, buy anything new. He just keep using it. She's like no sweetie. No another. There things about you that I did. I did I I force, to my image of view that I hope boys I got They. I remember one time hearing you.

Say something there's nothing better than a bathtub of whiskey and a book, and I went oh my god. Yes, it's like pad a day like that is one of the few good things about the pandemic. Are the days I can sit on this little chair and on my front porch and just read a book and actually not have to go anywhere in the realms going to sit? I'm actually gonna read for four hours, and just read this like that amazing to me like he might have dinner I'm not the best reader. Unlike I just have a hard time. Reading, listen to a lot of books these days. It's so do you hate books on tape actors are getting to do. Those now are incredible, have you and what have you been listening to take anything recently, you're, a biography of Kim jong on who and whose reading it it's. It's really racist, a white guy doing an asian axa, its

It's mickey really doing his character from a breakfast at. it is the I dunno who's about it's a chick and she keeps saying Kim about referring to him, his father and his grandfather. She refers to him as Kim, and so it's super fucking confusing. The best books on tape. It's only right now. This is the greatest The great segment of this podcast. Please on writing them down panel gimme, some good books on tape or just go books. What here's a gate, the book itself, world war z? Is it a fun red because you know that your member, the movie, what worthy europe is written like oral history like it's ten years after the tsar, be outraged, and it is in our view, indifferent people that survived it. So they talk to a scientist, a soldier and stuff for the,

going tape. They cast it so take an older mark. Hamel analysed the LEO raw robin mine are all talking about their experiences and some of the stuff so weirdly timely about how like there was his army attack on on congress at all of the government, was wiped out some guide. It was like an under secretary of education alone the one like up in massachusetts, baby good on the whole line than he became? President he's, like I was just run, The school district in there somewhere gotta, be the president, its rob, rhine or trying to explain such an amazing. Listen! We got where you go like. This is what the oral history of of covert nineteen will sound like wait all while the insane mistakes they were making it more camel, plays a special forces soldier who is undue. Trying to explain like we were using. Two high calibre ammunition and it would go straight through this.

and bees, and they would keep way to learn, to use lower caliber, subsequent hit them and stick inside them and maybe start them, but the really high bears have just went through and it just we just keep coming like. It was just amazing how and you didn't think about us- I'm like oh yeah, wait a minute if you did shoot too close to powerful, wouldn't do anything cause. It just goes to show that it was just me it's just such a fun thing to listen to cause it's. So well directed and well cast. Give me who I thought you'd always like this. Is bones again me putting to you what I think you'd like James michener. Did you ever listen to him? Read him I've I've! I read his books growing up. He would take like one subject: duane massive, like just the whole thing but I've never listened to them on tape. Are they good? I have a list on tape. I read those those was I stopped reading at a certain age where I was just like you know I I actually talked about this today. I heard seinfeld once a I'm saying he heard he's all people who were at a workplace. They went to london and they came right back, went back to work and you like you'd, like I

I was looking at my comedy that way and then I was like I don't. I can't shut my brain off like I, I don't. I don't get a lot of say even when it was happening is when I started stand up and I would try to read as I was reading. I would start writing in my head, and so I would disappear well, but that's good that I think I mean there was like when I really got into comedy and it became fulton for about I'd say two decades. I just didn't read that much, because all I wanted to do was write comedy and now that I have a little more reading I'm getting back and media, and you should have those years for you to stop. Also, that sort of thing should, when people talk about tv shows from the late eighties and early nineties, I have a huge gap, because I was always in the clubs I think I've ever seen an episode of frazier or friends or not. Those are bad shows, but those were the nights. I didn't have a dvr, I couldn't you know I might I gotta be the clubs, I wasn't performing goes out watching stuff marital. Do grandma

all the stuff I never watched yeah. I never saw the sopranos I just it was when I was working cause. That's when you were here whenever you're first starting whenever the bug hit you a lot of pop culture, you just won't be into because you're like nah. I just want to watched us. What's your what's your favorite book you've ever read like? Is there a book? You've read like my wife. Twice, oh and there's a book by James Ellroy called the black dahlia. I've read three times it is one of the most would at one of the dark most fascinating crime novels and its basically real case, the elizabeth short murder still unsolved in a way one of the most gruesome murders ever and he weeds this massive fictional.

police tail around and says who he thinks actually killed her and it's incredible one of the you I just every couple of years. I just pick it up and read it cause. It's so well done. It's insane to me and the true crime has become such a genre of just pod. Casting of books a bit, but it was a fascinating you're. You're you're you're gonna have to save your say ex wife, late life, you're late, I'm sorry, sorry, you're, late, wife, wife? Oh I've. Everyone knows this brow registry about wrote a book about d, the golden gate, own state, current state grants a killer and ended up solving it and kind, and it was just like a best seller will yet, while the book, the book itself didn't end at solving it with the book tat, is it fightback back on the case and they reopened it there. That's what these four and also it is going to sound kind of this, is going to sound a little creepy, but it's true. He had a. He did not have a good name

she thought up the name golden state killer. Before that he had like two different names, they tried to combine them because he operated in two different decades and one of the humps I can I talked to was like If you don't break, if you dont you good branding on a serial killer, a allotted terms, the case, that's why they become cold because you gotta give them a call. Me which is a weird thing to say and Mr Michel always felt worried about that like it, but all these were like thank you for giving him a cool name. Now, there's interests in the case and it helped to get the case all I just wrote a joke about that girl that I did a deep time on your wife. randomly, because I got obsessed with the boston strangler. and and then and then it and then I got on to names of current killers. So entreat you say that, because I I said why the joker, One right was why why would they give him a cool name like the boston strangler leaving That is the guy doing going. Yes, what I do as opposed to one which caused the boss pervert and that's not what I do like

stop. If you think you're misconstruing, what I make yeah, that's one of the. If, if go back and read the novel, I'm red dragon by thomas Harris, which is today, well before silence the lambs one of the things again again, it's very dark, but it's true that the killer they're looking for they call him the two things hurry and his angry because he wants to be called the red dragon I dare not understanding what I'm doing it ages but which bind weight is a real thing that has happened with serial killers where they wanted. They want a cooler name or megan they're horrible human beings, but that nets. A very human thing of like unoaked at name one cool name. You know it's kind of crazy and yeah. That true crime is really I mean you look at you look at. my favorite murder and you go yes will also do you think that the reason the true crime is a popular now is because we now have these phones, which apparently, as opposed to hold every piece of information every year,

if anything up, so why are there still called cases wire their unsolved? shouldn't, we know you know, so I think that that's one of the reasons that people like, maybe if we talk it out and go over every, everyone? Look at this thing, it's like when, when, when you're trying to find your years ago. When everyone look around for these, because you clearly, maybe they're, rightfully being you can't see them and everyone else, he just bring indifferent eyes. I don't know It would seem to be such a compulsion in the fact that every couple years someone publishes a goddamn booking, like I figure out who jack the Ripper is. You like that they'll. Never let that go yeah it, sir! You! You finished that book. You out finish that book for a correct. Yes, I called a journalist friend of hers and her researcher, and I said please help me finished his wooden sidney. Writing we organised all the meat sheep had pages pages and pages of the book we organise. is it in a form that can I told the story, because

Writing was so good if I try to write the afterward, but if I tried actually then pick up a sentence that she didn't as you will have seen the difference, here's what writing like all good lord, so I didn't want to do that, but

yeah there was that whole. You know I'm like. I can't leave this undone. I can't go on with my life until this is finished with her. This is super personally, don't answer it was that. Did I help you with the process of grieving yeah? I mean that that was a thing that helped with the process of grieving. But one of the things that you find out and very very early about about grief is a grief, feels like terror or the exact same emotion, you're, terrified and nothing, nothing cures it except time. Every single day it gets a little bit little bit little bit little bit, you know less and then suddenly you're he added a dad. At my school, his wife died from cancer data, my daughter's school and he was like first you'll, feel like I can't live there

don't feel like, oh, I can function but I'll never feel joy again and then you'll feel joy again and it happens, and you have to let all of that happen to you and it's brutal, but that's how it you'd you'd, you don't go through it you're put through it. So in a weird way, one of the few positives is you have freedom from choice. I don't have any other choice but to go through it interesting did there were their people did. Did anyone reach out that you like why the fucker you reaching out? no, I mean was all basically you know friend I tried it and then people that me, me: I wasn't. The best and to me you know how crushing comedy You have a lot of friend of ease, there's a lot of you, but that's what I get like you know. I mean candidly. We we ve had a friend recently lost someone and end and I reached out- and I felt really weird Reaching out, I felt like I I, like I shouldn't say anything you shut up like don't bring it up. You know is that it was very He said it meant a lot, no one,

If I had known that, I would I'd reach out more to people, but I feel like I don't want to bother anybody well, but the thing is because we are fighting over creativity. our impact should be ass, a function of our lives. But our actual lives. Everything else supersedes that an individual tragedy you're undermines the member that richer private, but here s the pet monkey, the pet monkey dies. There's a dog the chase. the tyrant and then he comes out and crying the dog jumps. Tension is like for you. Kay any chosen, the monkeys, dining room, my god, don't hang into that man is located and the dog walks when he's about to jump over and he turned around You realize anger mutation, your ass tomorrow, you know and then and then he'd like jumper We should like. I have these people that I fight with on twitter, that we all agree but when that happened they relate dude. If there's anything, I can do more, you gonna fight about bullshit later, but right now I remember when those massive fires happening. This is done at the same level, but those huge fires. We're happening out. You know

Malibu instructors and joy. in other words, who I couldn't agree about anything with literally awake. I think, for three days honest twitter, like hey, can someone come help beat like these? horses are in trouble. If some This house and she was trying to marshal stuff anyway, you and I was like hey james words or problem, we fighting my trouble in a few days right now, you're, probably saving people's lives. A bank like it was acting like yeah. This is real life. Ok, you know me like they just those moments that that bring shit into perspective. So the fact that you reached out to mark- I think, that's beautiful, you know react. I I you know it's like I don't know. I always. I think I look at things cynically and I want to come out. I don't He saw unwanted originating look like it's another man other than ham thinking about you and I and I am- and I think yeah because still humans, where, ultimately, here meant. I mean again when you're in your twenties, that's when you have your crazy right,

reason, never speak to this person and bumble bush many get to be my You like, I do come on we're all the same schmuck. Basically, so it is hard to keep them again, but that I, why like when people get upset by come- enters your internet trolls. My feeling is like they're supposed to be doing, MR in their twenties. the rain other young or their inner fifty's. Didn't have all pastor twenties alien. Let them work it out. It's just electrons. I d, you know they'll either get to this point or the die alone. I do know, but there's it either it doesn't effect you like. That's how I will stop. I am sure you have heard me, talk about hymns and other helping guys look their best in. If you haven't it's time to listen to what they're all about sixty six percent of men losing their by the age of thirty five. A lot of men notice it. Sitting here and then it's too late, I noticed that it was my hair was thinning and I jumped in front of it, and I got on medical back in the day you had to go to a doctor. You to stay with a nurse then talk to a doctor.

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great you get to an hour and everyone's like how fucking long just going to go, but how ne you feel I feel like you're someone in this business that has worn a ton of different hats like and I'm always curious, this side of me, as always curious of like how many different jobs there are to have in hollywood. Like you know, you obviously been an actor in your opposite comedian, but like what other stuff do you get brought on for projects to Do I do a lot of writing. I do a lot of punch happen on scripts. I now saudi, do a lot of hosting What shows the swords writers guild awards for years in a row for some reason. I think it's because, such a movie nerd that I get really I'm a hostess excited about the show. then I'm doing rather than trying to just your job actually no, whose none

they didn't I've, seen the films and I'm gonna bring out. I hosted the independent spirit of words like I was excited that that you know John waters was in the crowd like. I was actually giddy about that in that vacuous so yeah the things I wanted and I'm really starting that these pasture I'm starting to produce a lot of stuff, I'm just it it just a different variation of what I was doing with commune to comedy, which is you're, bringing people that you like whose work you like that you want to bring together and then make something amazing and then and I'm going to try to stop talking about it so much. I want to direct something. I'm going to start acting of dinner as a couple of comedians specials. I want to direct once comedy. Comes back and then I want to start making it. So that's the next night, that's interesting. What did on give did was our party you that felt like this, and this is the most ridiculous statement to make. Those are a party that fell like I should get stock options in Zack. I think I

fuck him helped people understand him he's like he was the most misunderstood dude by industry forever and after It means a comedy error, including myself. I was like bats. Are you show that man here I mean with me because I was of the feeling of. If it wasn't gonna be me, it would have been someone else. He would have gotten through real way, and I bet mean I'm not looking to go like I own a peace. It is money more like I get to be friends with him and I get a tour with him like that to me is way more fun, then some cold, like fire the arrangement with them and also he. As much as I was showcasing him, the world touring with him made me away better to meet. You made me think differently about how I wrote. So I again I benefited tenfold from that with any kind of weird contract. So but it's but it's still, it was like it was the, No, it's like it's wednesday made the brodie, enjoy it yeah

finally someone showing the guy. We love how we love him. Yes, that with that, made me, sir, and I had like brody- do as many shows with me as I possibly could at the largo whenever he was available for please comedy, but weirdly enough near the end here He came showing demand as an audience warm up guy because he would set the best tone for those rooms and it paid really well so as much as I was greedy and wanted to take them on the road and have an open for me. I couldn't justified. Take him away from these really good paying gags, where your needs is really loved himself mean. I had him towards me as much as I could, but you know he was he was he was beloved within the industry. I wish he got. Some more love outside street definite. We are definitely I lose my daughter's knew who he was with a mere each other ray. really, but yesterday they would see him a starbucks ngo, dad brody

Stevens. I love him. I just his lines. I was an intense care. I I charge the mound playing t ball, like they're. Just forgot that voice. Yeah I wish he had. I wish he had stated the year at the bank, but a little longer and got a chance to really you know, get up. And yet he should have had a netflix special at flick, siri something or were some new format that we don't know exists yet to showcase a mind like his they founded invented. You no good. I agree that it sets. What I'm out of this is the question I wish everyone. It asks me when I was when I was promoting my special and you do and don't don't Don't go into detail. I just want little hints. Ok like and I ll give you examples from mine, okay, so gay with. What's the joke, I answer. First, what

the joke, your most proud of you not set it out, but in my thing I call it. I got a black starbucks. I was my joker. I went This is what I and I and I'll tell you why it was. I felt because it was a layered joke that wasn't what you thought it was. It wasn't what you think the joke was. It was something else, and I was I loved that joke joke you're, most proud of mine and and again I get it there's going to be a bit of a humble brag, but I really would so happy with said denny's bit that closes the special expertise, the it's. kind of a new level of writing for me and the special spit out for two days. People are already making animations of it all work, I'm getting sent stuff like it's getting people like it's one of those things it's taking a life outside of it We are adding to it for adding to the world that I map out in that, and that is a writer and is it as a comedian always feels amazing. So the fact that I'm already seen that today,

in- and you know what I'm not humble bragging- I'm openly bragging- I'm so happy about that bit. I'm so happy that I wrote it it's so much fun, loving a bit that you have where you go, loved it. I really proud of myself, though, that gets back to that whole thing. I started special mid joke, I'm telling a joke, because all dispatches you see that the openings get shorter and shorter and because it was like, I just want to get to it, and then I we listened to their said. Making sixty four live, album its jerry louis in hamburg, germany. It is twenty four minute live out, We put out. Maybe the best live, album ever no prelude no good evening. Folks, just it opens any bang in on it. seattle and here we go, and it does not let up, and I wanted my special to have that energy. Just let's go somewhat like the old you get the more you can strip it down. you young, like I have so much to say what it is. My only special and you thought load of others

We should now move like pushes go go. What joking! Your special do you feel like is is textbook patent. a textbook patten as always reversed my my jokes about my daughters and my family. I go that's the bird that you liked in secret time. You get that you get of all that good comes like I put it. I was very, very particular about the way I structure by our cars. I want to put I wanted to put new stuff, but I was proud of the way I was writing and wasn't normally talking about a front and then the stuff that I did. The people fell like before in the inside your time I put in a second thirty minutes Oh factual kuwait is structure it, but I didn't. I didn't, want people I turn it on and go. Oh, it's a joke about his daughter. We did what he did this last special night to go away. What is there to confuse them a little bit and go? I can I you know

they worked. I know I've got the retention right on my specials, I think work but mine was mean that the thing is most power. This is, is the whole thing about breakfast cereals right here this to will be a further food joke, but it is seemingly disposable, computer product it. No one thinks about twice: when I go into what is this actually saying about it, just like with the famous bull just like with black angus like? Is there a bigger human thing is being said with this frivolous you know he's a stuff so yeah that was the most at what was the names you did not pay for the specials husband. I gotta see I came up with. I love everything pretty early, and I was because I could after I called the tour none. So I don't think had other. I think the only other I was always gonna be. oh link, but then it could boat but then

when I looked at him like I'm, not yelling that much to miss one. So I nothing that really fit I'm like I'm old, I'm not yelling so yeah. What were your other names? I was just looking up right now, I know that I had to write them out titles here we go our unity, belly laughs Oh yeah, I'm just going to I'm just going to run through them, because we've got a fucking list. Okay, well, okay, we got belly laughs. Third trimester skinny. Fat fact. American pits and pussies gunshot ripped yoke, hey big I was there where it came in this role to twenty five, the skinny special trimming, the fat hard pass artistically, honest, twelve jokes for stories nothin, but nips baghdad, hot dad, hot baghdad, hot dad bob. The owl special only boy pony boy, Curtis rad, dad rad bob bodied, full bodied and firing hot dude. Those are great

the only thing what I'll do what I would about, it would be father figure. Father figures, what I'm my next one at that king brilliant, oh tat, that is it bucking, but artistically, it works on so many levels can we find I want to find a way. Ah, it's not. I mean it's gonna. How I would want. I would love to get away to bridge. The gap of knights were like guys like not just do spot bill. I go out to dinner. would like guys like me. You guys you still have a cocktail every now and then just hang like soongoora stand What brogan like like and like hussein, like you, know, feel like there's a way of like oh you're such a brilliant dude, but we're also we're all dads now, and but that is a thing I'm.

the hang. I miss doing an open mind and we all go sit somewhere and just hash over what we. In some one will come up with a weird tat lie. We like all thank you moment in the cycle. Documentary, which was working on a think tank. Joking, it's not their many sitting down was concluded. George wallace and george, while Ripped out one line you see jerry face, go, but that's it! That's like I've got it like. You see him get the hook right. There and so those moments. I really I really miss those we'll do. I only have one more question for you. What did you see dream a little drain when you were in college, I didn't, not see that movie, because when it came out I was just starting stana, but I did. Did see the scene in the gymnasium, where she's in the leotard, with a goddamn top hat and coat. feldman is doing, is Michael Jackson, dance and she is just like in so there's moments when I called you

The house will make our married that girl I'm married. I can really I'm in its attitude. It was One of the first, a big big like time travel out of body type movie, you haven't whip, allege freshman year. I must have a must have watched that a thousand times which are hardly now I mean in into point where I said too, we were talk. We were talking about like crushes like childhood, crushes and burn member, and he who did you have like a childhood cross? I saw you, I got it and I say it only respectfully, but I go pans. Wife is was like all of our in college. I was like all of our dream. Girls was like she was so cool and by the way, this is what still when both the quarries, recluse fuck, ok now

It says she was happy. She was so excited because I got a call or a film year or so, but it's so cool. It's so fucking cool to know that the girl that we're all obsessed with it, we just ended up marrying a guy like you like, a guy that legit is brilliant, fucking hilarious. It's fun, hang a just an all round, artist and in love with everything that is fucking are its, call that she didn't and bearing some fucking polo player some. You know she We have signed an eye, she pygmies I'm and I'm not going to question it. Well I'm going to roll with it and I'm not going to try to keep quiet about it. Rather, congratulations on the special thank you so much Matt burke, thanks, I'm so glad I got to do your. Do your podcast

I said to Joe rogan when all this crazy soap around when it come in, I like sitting and talking with people, definitely without a doubt doing as best we can here, but I want to come in and just hang. I can't wait man, I'm at a point where I just started, watching it. I pulled on pause because my wife for me please Instead, I want to watch that we're wants out with you, so I'm just outside it Euro barometer watch its I would lan d at me. later, because I would love to get your thoughts on the danny's bit. I think that everyone will just knowing that kind of stuff that you do. I think that one you'll really really like. I can't wait man, I can't what thank you so much man Thanks man, take care brother, the.