The hey guys, brandyball gas and guess who's. Here. My beautiful, lively and crisis will be like to see her s, wife, the party you can find it at wife, odp, dot com a perfect. I don't know it's gonna be honoured. Right now. I why aids, I just seemed not angle because the sun's over there, so I spent I had all this opens base its funny. I have a joke about land thinking. She is the funny wanted at home. Yeah, that's right and that is it back so sort of anger born came up on a hot summer. Nights. Tour was success in my opinion, mostly because waiting rate time, and-

and we all stayed fairly safe. I'm sure a ton of you are wondering burt did you get covert, know we tested negative for cobit. We had the whole eight people on the tour bus test and every one tested negative. Now that is not to say that and that this virus is not real. We took sixteen cities within twenty shows, and we were very specific about how we toward I just want to be clear about this- I it we did zero km tat in every club, every drive and we did- Caesar or contact we struck touch, no one. We literally talk to no one and our group is very insulated. We walked into a back entrance what am I a security guard, went into the green room. We didn't it, with any one, and we went onto the stage that only contact that we would have come in It was our walk to the stage without a mask but we were masks everywhere and I just I don't want you to think that, because you,

mommy travel around the world that is difficult to get a virus. As we know, a lot of my friends have picked it up and from doing shows and people will still do shows and they should shows these clubs are hurting and they need comics to come in and fill them. So don't go out shame a comic comics can be safe, they can be zero contact, mask lots of sanitize or and had to be very insulated, but it was a great time. We are absolutely great time, owing to thank everyone who came out the driver movie. Theater shows, I will be doing more of those I will not probably be doing any more club shows just because I don't have as much control of those as I'd like, but the driving movie theater shows. I had complete control over and everyone could be as safe as they why did you cannot tell an american what the fuck to do? You can't tell him to wear a mask and you can tell him to stay away from you. He shot me. We had dudes running to the stage and literally I been bad security guard had to stop them from running to the stage

because I don't want any contact we Ethel americans what to do their pocket americans. So we had a great time. We really have to go, time I will be doing more drive and movie theater shows they were so much fun. You weren't there. I just want to paint the picture. It was so beautiful and such a beautiful life experiences experienced doors would open. These venues were very nostalgic. Very cool charlotte was one of the coolest places I've been ever that drive and movie. Theater was absolutely gorgeous and I will be doing, shows there again. Tulsa was like a dream: it was the driver movie, data from the outsiders, the outside as we saw at that also derive in india. In two shows fort We need to choose for color It was hilarious and the guy that we kept up all night who kept telling me to go fuck myself from his house. I'm sorry sir, I'm genuinely sorry, but there were

facing doors will open, seven showed and start until nine. Some people get there. They start tail getting that set up couches they set up chairs, they start grilling, they start smoking meets, they start drink imbues, they would set up, jacuzzi is in the back of their trucks. It was so fucking cool that I will be doing more of those. I think that is for me. In my opinion, the easiest is easily the safest easiest, waited or for me right now. Is it do those drivers, and I know that my act can lends itself well, the drive ins and and and and and by the way, have been talking about other big ways to tour. There are little out of the box that are socially distant, socially saved. My wife is losing her mind right now. You just bored I mean like if you're going to be bored, don't do it visually you just like desolate like deer. In the background like this Jesus Christ, I've already turned it off. I been talking about these drive ins nonstop to her specific

What are you dogging until we had a great time with a great time and an all say, as we were masks one hundred percent of the time when we're out I mean what, as am I beating a dead horse right now from watching me during this time? I dunno why he wanted me here because he's talking he's talking, wow and to think I cared about her life you're such a. If you like more of these lunatics me, ask you this. Do how many times you're talking to you today and in the middle of it I go you're, not even listening anyway, you're right, I'm not even listening. I'm gonna talk about there's some details weapon twice in one cent,

many times. We started this and is over again lead to stop again several medium. The board from hearing you talk about the same thing you ve talked about for the past seven two hours ad, nausea, I'm so sorry how can my? But I have a lot of issues. I have a lot of obsessive, compulsive ness water. Do the anxiety, I'm detoxing from this tour. It was so much fucking fun. I partied really hard and I'm back on. agen for all these, you all those of you that are wondering I'm down on koolaid. I had one jug today this one right here I had this have koolaid. That said, that's huge! It's not costing. Can you shut the fuck up? I did not need your time and have one's own coolly crystal. Love it left. A visa has three is a three of them,

drinking a lot of water. Whisky got caught up with the interesting thing. The music, you don't add sugar to it, we are oh hold on. Let's talk, fucking aid for a second okay. Can I just tell them? No? we have how many hours when those who lay back it's no idea. I yet it's you You know it's five, it's five and I put one in and I feel it with water. So there's a lot of water dilated truly include you fucking diluted, lunatic glade, said dilated I allowed. We were just thinking that you're drinking candia they're here yeah the sugar as the chemical stuff, if you like, dementia, is the alzheimer's. You know how many notes I get from adults on a daily basis, was telling me how to live. My life. Did you know you know that girl says he gets up and a first within three minutes. He brushes his teeth.

must hold on. Neither will stop your diet you're doing this because you're on camera, and that's why he did it. I brush my teeth usually most days, I go pee away myself freshman Te De Lorenzo Johnson said. I didn't want to comment on it, but I love Angela, I'm only of her on the progress. Yet That said that she had stopped, and one of the first thing she does is washed her aunts. Why? I don't know I just I just was. I didn't want colorado to put in my comments and she supported me. was yeah. First thing I do is I get up. I wash my hands a breakfast. I have my coffee and then I brush my teeth. Knowing yeah, that's what I do sometimes most of the

times, but I know I definitely don't wash my wash my hands a lot lately, but not when I get a knife as dirty me now the person that needs to wash her helena. Oh, I dunno it's a lot of people wash their face. I'd never wash my face. I've! Never I'm not a face washer at always the last time you washed yourself so we're driving to the new house to thank nelson because I have these massive tomato plants to that that are getting sunburned, so I needed to cover them so we're on our way and burgos. So angry at easy, and I go. Why are you angry it easy because she knocked me down and I'm so edgy from it. There was two days ago that happened two full days ago. And I was like a hold on perhaps you're angry yourself, because you haven't bathed since she knocked you down today, well. You're gonna be shocked. When I tell you the last summer, showered yeah you Jimmy.

I keep getting in the pool and I go on new years day, one so for the last time I showered because you're covered in chlorine now, my god, you know the last my showered was in june. Ninety, when you left your last time, knows in Tulsa Oklahoma, so browse the fake and you think I'm gonna get busy with that. Days ago. Why would you think that noticed? I had more than anything I don't like Gimme sounded like ten days ago as grows, so you scared or though a leg. So so I think that that is in prison cell first all she me ass. She caught she jumped up right when I landed, a got into the missing. I didn't she jumped up, and

puts me in the balls so hard. It knocked the wind out of me and I groaned like er and Liang goes. Oh easy, she's! So excited to see you and I went. You live gandhiji Ghraib. Are you? Okay? Are you okay, you're groaning and you don't have any wind in you and your lang riding on the floor? You just should have been. I mean I know it's painful but injured It was one that was injured or was it that that's exactly what it was I was injured, are in pain as different me.

injured when an injury needs treatment. You know there was no treatment necessary. You just need time for it to settle down so you're in pain that you were not injured, neutral bears. One cave is out the talk about brushing your teeth. New bill bird is out. We bust Brian and Brandon balls a little bit me and bill not too bad at all, not too bad at all, but we do talk about it a tad bit so, but it's not bad, and if you think it's bad, don't start drama, those guys are sick, let them get better and then we can bust their balls really fucking hard, and what's that right there. I don't know it's on my Tudor is just dirt, so it's maybe covets today's I'm such a really good one. Today's upstairs Jack Maxwell jack is someone who is on travel gently and show called booze traveller, which, were I absolutely loved, was a boy the best shows on the network and a, but I didn't know

very well! I didn't get to hang out with him ever. We know really had any cross interactions, the duchess? How that network worked in that area did their own shows them, maybe once here would run into each other, but jack is somehow I didn't know much about an boy this summer good interview? Isn't a good austin. I listen hardest spot. He talks about growing up in southie as an underprivileged kid. He talks about his dad getting on drugs. He talks about getting cancer, he talks about booze traveler and he talks about his new show. What's his new show, halston The high road with jack Maxwell. He talks about his new show, the high road with jack Maxwell, and it's on youtube and see if there will be a link in the youtube yo right under here to go check it out. It is produced by my buddy who was a huge driving force I will channel my channel travel channel for me ross Ross

and dale were like huge two guys. I just meant a lot to me travel channel and anna and not as well. Andy. There are a lot of guys and we talked about all of them. I'm not saying last names cause. I don't want to blow up anyone's fucking last names. What what? What are you doing? What do you say it just fucking say it just fucking say why don't you go and make the record stop sniffing dogs and ross ross This time I got the money The record is given come out,

We talk about a lot of people when we say a lot of last names. We didn't believe a lot of last names. If we talk good about them, we did bleep a couple that we maybe didn't talk perfectly about, and I and I and I just didn't, want to sound like I was talking shit about anybody, but it does selling I'm talking shit that they are the person that I'm talking about Donna. Who am I talking yourself into a corner, just nearby you're going to love this episode. No more tour dates. I speak of where how at home for awhile back on the treadmill running, not drinking being healthy and not without a bath. Buddy story Today's by gas, ladies and gentlemen, from booze traveler from travel channel with his new so hostile, What's the name of the new joe again, the hierarchy, the high road with jack Maxwell found on youtube. Ladies and gentlemen, my body, Jack Maxwell,

the radio this morning, halston from six am until nye. No ten thirty and I went back into my bedroom and I went to sleep so hard that I woke up thinking. I was going to be dead. I was like oh my god. No, I just got off the conference call without a jackie, hey. What's that burt? Let me changes. Scott area. Now, my tossing you, god, you recording. All I heard was you say: well, you woke up at ten thirty. What was that? Oh? I do. I did I'm doing this, I'm doing tour. Through through drive and movie theatres,

in a company. It's always do impressed to promote the tour. So I got up at six a m to do the radio first until ten thirty and then I will go back to sleep so fucking hard. oh so great, I literally woke up like woke up like so out of it but but I drink, I drank last night and I haven't been drinking at all and they drank last night The treadmill ran ten miles drank a bottle of wine and I fucking felted this morning. when you ran ten miles yet written miles hurt your knees at this point in our life were knocked kids anymore. No, Doesn't I dunno why? I know that would kill me. You know- and I wasn't a big runner growing up though so like I don't. I never. I walked everywhere and felt like I wasn't a big what are you? What are you doing for exercise these days? Yeah, that's a good question. You know I saw you at the last time we saw each other was framing canyon and that's it

about the extent of it, I'm in arizona now, because I just got done with my chemo treatments. So what I do wish back into chemo. Yeah well. Had two: was I guessed, not pushed too but advised to because cancer. I had knowledge, gives them former it's tough when it comes back, that's when it does a lot of damage, so try to keep it at bay, like you would with any cancer, but for some reason this one Rarely does a lot of damage, so they said you down with the main chemo, We suggest wink wink you do about a year and a half to two years of maintenance. Chemo beak it'll be worth it trust us, but we can't force. You should do it, but we do want to say that, but maybe you should saddam. I said you know I'm not sure like homes or anything. But I take your job and some pretty big hands here. So I do wonder, how did you find out? had not hodgkin's foma, yet

just pure luck. You know I went in for scan maya, my step brother is a physicians assistant and he said: listen oh man! You don't really go into the hospital doctors for anything you should probably start get. Regular checks and of course, as you know, because you went through it with me being will channel they invested money and you and they say: ok, now you gotta go through all these ass and get Ali shots just in case. So of course I went through that, but the usual thing like when the colonists could be in prostate. Not that not my favorite activities, but I want to be smart as well. So anyway, I said sure so I went in and they scanned my chest and at the very bottom of frame, so to speak. Said, there's something that shouldn't be. Can you come back again now

I'm busy. You say that I'm going to run, what do you mean there's something that shouldn't be that I swallow a quarter when I was a kid: it's still there. What do you mean there's something there that shouldn't be so I went back and they did a full cavity skin and die. It was lit up and they said yet it that's probably some kind of cancer we're thinking some kind of lymphoma, because europe, what are they called the limp ear? You live now, of course, your lymph nodes aurora a little jack. We should probably do a biopsy, and I said, ok, what kind of cancer they said: lymphoma, probably either hodgkin's lymphoma. A non hodgkin's lymphoma, but we need a biopsy to confirm that I said cool, which one should I be written for. Can you give me some some hope? Let me I'll take the girl take the good when anything they say about that.

ben some people would rather have hodgkin's. Some people would rather have non origins. One yeah, that's what I said. They said it depends on what it is that bothers you an end how your body adjust, for instance, my friends niece. She was I twenty. When she got her skins and she sailed through it. Yet I had other people say all you're better room for non, because hobbs hodgkin's is the bad one, so Oh, he didn't. I don't even want to make me nervous or something anywhere at non hodgkin's. So that's the one I was stuck with and then I I I waited for while I was still doing booze traveler, but I told the network and I told the production company and they said, you can keep doing the show sure go another long, as you feel like you can. So I did a show for two more years with it didn't tell to many people will you get you just had it and you didn't do anything about it? Well,

You know. I know that that might sound crazy, but I said to my own colleges: listen for the first time. In a long time I got a gig and fight, they keep their right. So what do you think? I should do because if you say come off the road and go right into chemo or radiation are. What are you gonna? Do I'm gonna, listen to you because I'd like to live first and foremost, it all and he said, Well, do you have any symptoms? And I said what are the symptoms? He said you tied alive. your eyes. I read your limbs swell up. His stomach doesn't feel so great. I said, you're describing the symptoms from both job. Really, you must know getting what you parameter episode I said yeah because even talk about camera, that's what happens when you travel, I want to show the reality of it as well. Not just it's all. You know rainbow

and then cocktails sola wherever that was to me. So he said: well, you seem to be doing ok and if you're not exhibiting horrible centres like night sweats, you wake up shocked and an I hadn't. Although I had an idea, there was something wrong with me bird when I was in new zealand and I threw up blood, and I said her that can't be good and we we're gonna go to harbour to that day, not the biggest habit phantom and, I think, they're great lords in lord of the rings at all that but The crew was so looking forward to an. I could miss that day. I got up and I went and but I had an inclination and then, of course, than the diagnosis and other so back to what was at the time present day. They oncologist said alright, we'll we'll do scans Eric every month or so is to make sure you're. Ok, when you come off the road and that they accept lymph nodes at about a centimeter. My was nine and a half, so I said

are you sure, like I'm, not good at math, professor, a lot bigger than it should be? Really you now is that you I am a tree algebra, but I dunno what it is multiplication says: that's not good and he said well we'll wait and see we'll take the benign neglect approach, which means keep an eye on it and then we'll see what happens, but they weren't concerned, because I could be in mongolia, the gourbi desert now hospital, I'm a dead man that simple, that's how serious cancer is, so the first scanned got a little better. Second scanned got a little and I thought a magic. I get that. I can hear myself get me a tent and I'm gonna go do revival shows around the country and he said: listen, don't kick, carried away that happen. Sometimes your mind can heal itself. If you, if you take the right approach and in doing that, shows It's a blessing for me because I got to see so many different points of view not only cultural but religious and spiritual and how people approach

adversarial conditions, all the time and- and I really paid attention to it. So I incorporated whatever I could have what I learned going around the world and I did try to heal myself, but the next scan said and it's getting worse and then it went from under nine and a half to ten and a half, and the doctor said I think, it's time to come in and do something. So I had a ray come up in like three weeks: a natural hiatus. and I went into. chemo only not radiation. I did a very intensively for four months and then I just finished with the with the other the maintenance came up. While I was in chemo than works at hey how you feeling you shows up oh park, but that's the way it. You know, I don't I don't take it personally. I don't think it had to do with that because, as you know, they went, little toward the paranormal. An ideal.

different kind of spirits. I guess I don't know, and that was that was that there was it. There are a couple of shows, go pull, but important that I focus on my help anyway. So that's our yet which sweet was dream. Chemo radiation yeah. Well, generally speaking for me Oh there were six hours of bags of liquids going through my my, I ve radiation is more where they were. They zap it and I know that's a real technical term, but I think it means sir, kind of re gone. I don't know what they do and radiation it's more, it's the topical where they This is a machine. Then they showed I dunno some kind of light. Some kind of whatever radiation they radiated but chemo is, is either pill form or or through an I v bag. From what I understand do they do you lose your with chemo I was supposed to you know they said: listen, you're gonna lose your hair and it's gonna come back. Why? Because you rolled back, you knew they were power, positive thing and appreciate that.

and they said you gonna get sick too. This is great. How long is this We give this person the light there, follow horrible stuff for me, and so I said how sick and they said pretty sick, like in the middle of the night? We know we grow up in the air that rock and roll would tonnage she'll get on it. And choke on vomit, right that Jimi hendrix maybe bon scott joplin. It would derive Hullo Keith moon, these rumours. But that's all. I pictured that I was gonna, go to sleep one night and puke get sick and not know it, and then that's the end to me. So I bought an adjust we'll bed, but none of that happened. Bird related lose my hair at all, and I didn't get sick at all. I had a couple of symptoms: one of em, my the tipps of my fingers, got nominal, couldn't pickup keys in coins without we the concentrating and then I I couldn't sleep, blinding whitefoot she's went off in my eyes when I close them.

Whenever that was, but at at night? Of course you have to pretend you sleep and the sleep as I close my eyes right and I couldn't sleep, and so I I started taken c b. Dns would lead me to the highroad. Not does The new show you doing with with with ross yeah he's the buddy, I companies to me and said: listen! Like your story, it's inspiring. We know what your went through we saw what you did for booze. Can you do that for us I sat in doing verbose book. Pushes fucking soccer spend a large that actually we need more for me, then I did for it. I have to be honest with you, but this company was getting off into, the canopy space in the wellness space. In relation to that, I said all funny because I used be there wasn't a big cannabis got the time, because my father was a drug attic. I promised my mother, I wouldn't do drugs, not knowing the difference.

When I was a little kid between marijuana and heroin. I thought is all the same. What do I know right yeah enjoyed, I was never really big decay but then but then I started using d in and then full spectrum which hasn t teach you. Well- and I really hope, something to this site. When I found the road and talked a lot of people who We were in the same situation, they didn't know where, they turn and they didn't think that was helpful, but the medicinal side. That is just really making a quite popular these days. Isn't it I was. I gotta ask what what what you tell me about your dad. Yeah, you know. Well, didn't really know him all that well back in there six when I was we once part of the beginning, you from Boston right eye, yeah, I'm from Boston. I was born in a place called self Boston, which has been a little bit had done in the movies right. Wait, wait! Gown, tell me about you,

as everyone just assumes boston is south boston. Yeah now has a lot to it, but I you know it's funny too, because if you- If you to the kids in the neighborhood, I mean little kids, it's just a phrase: you're a kid. Regular beer birch a good kid you go back, then I talked to the guy. eyes in the neighborhood. They really get upset everybody's claiming that from south boston, it's like when channel has got a hundred points that more people claim they were there. Then, fit in the stadium and it wasn't even sold out right your name with sound for some reason. I guess between goodwill hunting and then southie Donnie Wahlberg again, I guess they departed. You know that was that was supposed and a bunch of most. I guess people say there southie when it when they from and the bird somewhere right, but I grew up in the press jack's himself boston, and so it was very much like we'll hunting in that way accept Matt damon in africa cooler than I'll ever be, but I might

While I was twenty one, she got pregnant. She got married because that's what you did back in the day he didn't want to be a father nor a husband so big they split up in the first year and that I'd see him boyd seems like once every two years- maybe it was so, and I want you without seeing eye, was wonder. Why? Now, because I was there little kid everyone fathers or their fathers would come visit them even in the project and the sun figure figured as I got older. He just a drug addict and he would shoot in his arms like the lauded, which they give you right before you gonna die. From cancer mean some strong stuff and I we realise this after I moved away and then I came back to boston on my own. I was eighteen of the high school I graduated half a year early because I had this strange well, even though he was not the greatest guy, I needed to know my

so I could know myself, or at least that's what I thought at eighteen. I go a lever them and I he lives in a different set of projects. I come from great stock. Let me tell you: I I promised my mother I'd, go to college and taken college courses and I'm living with him and he lives with his my grandmother, which is great, the real close family that way, but I started sir any wasn't going to work in, and then I found a hypodermic needle on the floor and again got the project. That was I a lot of that right. So I knew right away, does what it was, and I talk to my grandmother about it and unfortunately she enabled him really and so while its medicine, he needs it. I dunno. If anybody needs that kind of thing was he taken, and she wouldn't say so one day, and I don't want to get too dark here, but one day after we had a couple of confrontations about it, I found an aluminum foil ball behind it.

Eighty eight or every room has its own radiating out this much space, and I found this ball of alone of all two delighted, little orange pills and I again im an eighteen year old kid. So I'm sorry, but I'm still not street smart like you, would be if you live thirty forty years and I bring it on I see what are you doing. You said you not daunted anymore, which he probably said a hundred times and there he said gimme that are needed- and I saw this immediate transformation from, sky I loved and was funny and fun and jovial. I saw this need this desperate asian for this thing as if he would die if he didn't habit like if her choke some off from oxygen. This is it and then his eyes got read in big gave it to me. I need it. Then, I got upset, of course, and I said okay I'll give it to you, but you gotta tell me these things here are more important to you than I am and he couldn't say it and he just

look down because he was ashamed and he just shook his head like that- and I gave it to him and he went to bed and soon after that cause you got caught for forging scripts prescriptions and and then that that was basically it merely, but it was. It was so bad because I love. them so much and I wanted to get to know. I drove him to rehab and I'm in the lobby, reading sports illustrated remember. Larry bird was on the chorus. I was going to read that front to back being a celtic fan right and I about forty five minutes in I'm thinking. What will it take us along? It was supposed to be the initial meeting before you go into rehab, so I asked, Reception, isn't she pointed to the back and I went back and the guy said now: you left you have to right. After gaudy, one of the backdoor ion father left me there. I had to take a train and a bus home. and- and he was there is, as I said, what happened

he said you know there was Sanderson and I had to go and I had to leave now he was going. Go score and it was he when you pulled to do it yet you do it and that's the deal. urge of drug addiction. I hated him for it at the time, but I forgive him now. Cause. I understand you really don't have much concern. I want your minute consume and so you never really you. What would you like? A good kid grown up had to be living in the projects? I too have in all the brother right at a younger sister cider, stick up for her and in watch out and a lot of wise guys in the press. Good was a lot of good people to don't get me wrong, but it was just its violent place. They would set cars on fire the school right across next to my building they burned down and is a huge church. This it's so strange right this this oxy more right in the middle of this thing and I was an altar boy there. So I try to be a good kick. My grandmother raised me there

right way with my mother and said? Listen, you have to be a good kid. You have to take it yemen is just so I was resisted, the urge to do what they all the kids with one another, products. And finally, my mother said I don't how long they will do this with this kid. So we moved out when I was just about thirteen and move the phoenix over real and then I went back like I said when I was eighteen cause. I miss my friends like a knucklehead. I wanted to get back to the city and that taught me a lesson dinner. So what what is that like? This is going to sound like such a white privilege ii question but like what's that like What's that like I've, never heard of this is going come out somewhere whilst bessie everything going on in the world today I've never really heard of white projects like apple, we heard of like marcy projects like like all the stuff for wrappers. You know with what is what was what's white projects like like a brainy green in chicago sure, Oliveira. It's not

I guess you don't hear about it, because it is not a lot of white rap Y know. I guess what would it is mostly like poor, wiping will live in trailer parks, and so you, here like the eminent members in the chamber. You know that style but, like I watch the video there's a forty five minute, video about accents and it's a guy with a Boston accent, and he just as walking around his walking around south and he's just introducing everyone- and everyone is the most. I will complete its literally that I can't believe I watch entire thing, but I I I what wouldn't want to when you say project, I'm trying to wrap my head around the picture. Is it like what I think of in the movies when I see like the the black projects where it's like, or is it a different style only tall buildings. Are they yet different style item

no projects from those movies and in good times remember they lived in the projects, they were tall buildings. These are just three story. Building there were basically built after world war, two for vat, the boom coming back from the war and they needed housing so it's basically low income housing and because my mother was twenty one wonderful woman You just got with the wrong guy and he didn't take any possibility at the time, even though they got married, so we are forced to live in the projects and she worked with three jobs because she didn't have an education based if we just highschool smart woman- and she did really offers of later on, but at the time and then my son the came along later, so it was tough and in this sense she didn't have a lot of options is what I mean I didn't know because I was born into it, but it's all is What is funny you say all white, because I remember

on occasion they would try to place a black family into the projects and the wealth they weren't have in it and they would break the windows and beat their door down and on all these stories. Of course, I wasn't there because as little but you'd hear of it- and I was so heartbroken that they would treat people like that because they were poor, I thought and they needed a place to live and just because they have different skin color. What's the deal with I didn't realize they were whole sets of other projects in roxbury were mostly black. People live. If you want to, you know, qualify it as far as neighborhoods, but the D street projects they were. Three sets of price fixing insulting and we would we were known as the bad ones. The kids from the other two projects used to make fun of us, be from these projects. Imagine that, like they were bel air already thing. You know it was still projects. It was all ok

we all harbor industry and they used to call us the street or a derp balls- and I said I don't know Then you're your projects are the same as they want to be nicer, but basically the red, brick, three story, buildings and the connected. and did then there's on a lot of acres, so it's big and If you wander in their it's hard to, maybe something I find your way out and you wouldn't his wandering there if you go in, as for reason and you, shouldn't gotta. Unless you know somebody really, yes, I was you ever feel. Like scared, walking home from school. Was there like bullies like like a fastened yeah. There are a lot of bullies because they were unhappy and that's where that's where bullying comes from its pain, its anger of insecurity, and so because people were poor They are they took it out on others. Now I was it

so? I was mostly spared from the horrible violence in others. The kids would try to be. we have their older the mean. So you learn how to find my my put me in martial arts and all that stuff. But I was a little kid asylum our great at it, but just enough for the neighbourhood to knock the cap is taking a language, maybe it will go the path of least resistance, just in case he learned something in class, but you know it. It still happened. Then, of course what I went to other neighborhoods visiting my cousins and things like that. They would make fun of me cause I'm the project kid and this, and that and hide your silverware Actually. Somebody actually said that someone's father said to the mother: his wife hide the silverware the project kid. I shall never forget that, unlike oh yeah. What silverware? I thought it was candles. I thought it was like silver can't allow. I don't know why it s the only thing I did think that could be made of silver right. I was its cutlery and I wouldn't worry. I want still forks and knives you dummy, but is, as far as far as the violence of it,

yeah. You know it, sir. It was odd because when you grow up into it you can't get used to it, but yeah they were fighting and I remember on christmas eve day, my mother and I came home. where my sister was in somebody had kicked in art, thick metal door. install all our presence like bags, the grinch like wait, a minute. How do you do that and it's in building right, someone had to live there, you don't, we would just robbers, don't case to place, they live there. I gonna take that chance. First of all, because you know, risk vs reward. What are you gonna get from someone and the projects anywhere right yeah, someone did at one of our neighbours and I felt so violent. I want to go on content and beaten up people, but for the most part I have to say with all that being said, people started looking out for my mother because she was by herself

and she had two kids. So there are allies and then there are people are just going to be mad at the world. No matter what? How did you turn out so good? Well, I don't know that I did it's all an act really. No. I I promised my mother that I would be a good kid. So this is where the drugs issue comes from. She said, please don't be like your father, so I said: okay, what's what's my father like He does drugs. I won't do them, he says he's going to sharp and he doesn't I'll be cut with my word. I he's a you know he's he does. Is he doesn't work? He doesn't have a goal. He doesn't have to the job, it's all about drugs. I won't do that and even when I knew he, I did not and he was on drugs as a little little kid. I know you reliable, so I said if I'm, if I give my word I'll, be released. But mostly the overview of that is, I promised myself cause. I saw a lot of kids go off to vietnam or go off to jail and prison, I'm not romanticizing it. Some of them would get killed or one kid got crippled because he got tone after

both now the kid got shot by an old man. Oh my building ponder on his door, one drugs or something to the guy shot him in the in the stomach and hit has happened. seven, his spinal cord musa, vegetable, the rest of it, so If I get out of here, it's meant to be and I don't really believe in meant to be. But as a kid I said, if I get out, I gotta do something good with my life: I'm not just going to punch a clock night the five do something I don't want to do. I'm gonna proceed What's in my heart, because I'm gonna feel like its borrow time. My guy, like I cheated because there are generations in the projects that have kids, they have kids and they never leave. So, thankfully, my mother had the strength and the will to get us out of there. Nineteen seventy five. She moved us the phoenix while nineteen seventy five in phoenix. What was that, like I mean that's like visit they got, is that is I mean it, but when I think of that, I think that is brand new.

if city brand new buildings brand new strip malls like like phoenix, is just kind of cause. I was in tampa at the time and I think of stamp in the seventies, and that was that was like everything was brand new yeah. You know it was kind of a one was town at the time that maybe six hundred thousand people now there's over ten million eleven whenever it is and it's odd because outside of phoenix proper was desert and it was, wait like if you go to scottsdale road that was going into that into the desert. get lost. Now, that's the middle of it all showed the year before we moved here I came out here for I for a judo tournament and I loved it. My mother said great we're moving there. I don't love it that much. I just lie at a good time because it was so different and quiet and clean. So when we moved here the next year, ah it was great because the apartments roulette no fancy thing but compared to the

the projects, it was the taj mahal and the people were nice and they would knock on. You door and say: do you want to throw the footballer? I mean there are plenty kids in the projects to do that, but you never have to worry about motivation, or maybe you did, but it was just a different vibe and then right after moved a phoenix? Are they started? A tv show called alice, So this woman moves out from new jersey with a blonde headed kid who's around ten or eleven or twelve years old and everybody started calling me tommy the kid from the show, and they should all yak as your mother's like Alice, although she's not a waitress and it was it took place in phoenix. That's you know, so I would. I got back in touch with my father little bit because we I hadn't, moved back yet so I'm going back and for the time gone to prison that time yet, and he said I does this show on it as it. I know all about everybody's ptolemy, Burma, I swear to you and I miss you and I miss your mother said you have about my mother sixteen years. What have you, MR? So we got it

I guess associated with that so, but it was a great story that a mother and a son move out and have caused by had my sister as well as three years younger, but we move out west for a better life. So I try to be a good kid like that kid was on the show to my mother. I never wanted to disappoint her. So instead of that I disappointed her as an adult and became an actor. I waited held it in, and I said, ok really gonna today now member others tat. I was good, I'm gonna be I hadn't really messed with you know what. So so, when you move back to boston and how soon did you did you move then back to phoenix to that. Well, when I was eighteen, I moved there with my father, like I said in my grandmother, he went to prison. I came home I there about eleven months, but I've met a couple of guys. I came close bodies with, and so when I was twenty six, I moved back to boston cosette

I I could handle it now that maybe one last crack at my relationship with my father, maybe, and so he's out at that time, as he did shortly- did a short stretch really didn't do from for that. He got up for less than a year, but I was gone by then so I back on twenty six and I try to get to normal little bed. another issue, a third money anyway, long story, butler, woe is me and the ban so disappointed all all the years of hurt and frustration. was in the hospital and they said you better go see. Father, we don't know its touch and go, go to see him and die No he's a drug addicts, as the first thing I think he's maybe go in there for drugs and that's what it was. So I go into his doctor, whose down down the road ashikaga billy, things down as these are dry I would you don't give a drugs Well, we didn't know that he said is harder, blower, not the best hospital in the world

So then I go now mad at him. A medical doctor matter myself that I'm failing that. I can't put this back together. You know and he's in bed. And it's just if it was a movie bird. It would be the speech I tell him from all all everything is done in the hurt and disappointment and everything else that I can't. I can't do this and I tell you what, if you get clean, I know I'll be there, for. I am not sure about that now, but I'm sure it will be yet, but you gotta do you climate. Otherwise, next time I see it will be at your funeral and I started get mad and he's. I don't want to hear that you have it, and so I walked out and I I don't even see him at his funeral. My mother, my aunt, call me his. Is the commune said a bad news, your father? That is five years later. I haven't seen him since and talk to him. He never reached out after that, and so I figured

for me. He died that day in the hospital really site. I didn't go to school for what just to make a show to say goodbye to do too to lament what could then he made a choice and again I forgive him for all those terribly sad at the time. Every boy I'm sure want some kind of approval or appreciation from his father and if he, if he was alive today, he would have got a kid I see in this what this kid from the project would no father became and or not that I did. But I mean I got out the projects and I did. What I wanted to do in life is what I mean, and I didn't I didn't become. A drug addict, thorn, abuse or anything like that that you you could of fright? I am, as you said, kindly ok, I hope, I'm a good kid. I hope I'm a good person but yeah you gotta, keep trying every day wow. So how old was your father when he passed? Oh, I was thirty, fifty seven, so fucking young yeah.

Well you know, the thing is too: I thought he was going over those some day because what he was doing, but he was, I guess he was pretty efficient at that. I just think long term. The the years of abuse took em. I didn't really get all the deed. else because again I didn't want to wallow in that, but I was in the house hospital in his heart gave out, but it was from you as of abuse and by the way, fifty seven right now. So I guess looking both ways a little more often when across the street I want, I want and bade him. I wanted. I at least lived to fifty. one of the eighty eight, but if I can make it a fifty eight because There is another thing him his first his father, the oldest any of em lived, was fifty seven I'm a merely china set a world ragged here, my my my dad, I'm all them,

in my family died of stroke at a young age. I so my dad's dad my mom's dad and I and my dad dad diving is forty four. I guess I'm thinking forty four point three, when men, when my dad, when my my dad dad was forty four he passed away and and my dad and I had like a falling out almost too to a little bit, because some. He was afraid that I, my lifestyle, was gonna catch up to me, and so he cardiologist, by the best thing I ever did, is get a cardiologist gonna blood pressure. Medicine is three when I get on the treadmill at all is because I know what's in my fan, I know stroke and heart disease where my family, so I try to keep it. I try to workout as much as I can. You know, I'm not that great at it, but you know now. I saw you at at friedman putting putting the time and not not that that's mount everest, but it's great exercise

as an it's, a good constitutional, so good for you for doing that. You're going to inspire me to do more cause. I don't do enough treadmill stuff to answer your question from before. I walked the neighborhood with ten lb. aids and the only reason I did that was to gauge what chemo doing to me. I had to stop three or four times this particular route, and then it was too tight then once and now I can do without stopping now. I know that you know that's that's my progress so good for you for doing them. I still I stick Believe you run ten miles. That's awesome is europe? Is your mom's alive yeah? She is, thankfully, and in in arizona yeah, so tell me how to cheat her life around like how did she? What like? What was her path? Ah, that would sense to me it's an inspiring story. I'm sure everybody has the has their own in their family, but so here she is twenty one pregnant with a guy, cheap, probably shouldn't be with, but she gets married to him and

and thirteen years later she says I gotta get this kid out of the projects. I gotta get my daughter out, so she had come out to phoenix two years before we moved because she was working for a travel agency and she won a contest and they sent her to phoenix and then one year before we moved, I came out for this judah. parliament, and so we had both been here and she said what would you think about moving then, of course, when you twelve their tents all by your friends right, it's about. We gotta play street hockey, it's all about way go to get your favorite ice cream or a girl. You got a crush on. You know I leave any of it right and so, said. I I don't know that I want to do that. You said why I think we have to so. I said. Ok, we have to. We have to and so she had an old camaro because her brother, my uncle, worked in a body shop, so he got a car that was totalled and put it

back together in a frankenstein kind of way and and just just spray painted it. She threw a a a. U haul, on the back with the you know, the tennis ball thing and we judge you couldn't back at a brain and we drove across country her and her friend who wanted to whatever I dunno she or a friend was a she's, an odd bird right. She never got married, never talk both guys never talked about going after by anything to do so. strange? I was wondering why my mother is friends with dispersion, and I understood because my mother's such a heart and such com, and she didn't judge your friend you that there must have been some quality that that she saw her that made them friends. So therein phronsie them in a back seat we'd. My comic books with my sister, No air conditioning- and this is the very beginning of september- before school started, we drive out to phoenix and she just starts work and jobs and gets later

from one and another one she's upset she's crying because she can't put it together. She decides to work. I think three jobs pool their money softly computer school. All I was playing play basketball or run around doing it. I didn't quite understand at the time and then I saw that she cheese got a really good job for the first time. Life I mean like a really good other. Then what what I mean is something had to be trained for really train and I said: oh, she was taken those classes, she went away arthur anderson, one. You know one of them, gate, accounting firms at the time they shut with the enron scandal, but she had retired by then at least from there, and I and and she got it good job and we work. We were ok and I thought wow a young girl in the projects pregnant and then no one helping she really did it all herself and her the time was a good person.

never saw her, be mean to anyone seventh, my grandmother, this john I'm in mean. Now everybody says that about their mom, maybe it their grandmother, but without them I think that's the guy I really thought of it that way, but I think they're always their behavior. I think guides me, because I feel I would dishonor them my grandmother's gone now. My mother still and I took out dishonor them if I did not go headed stuff because date tried so hard to make sure that I'd be ok, it's interesting. I said the radio interview this morning. They were talking about like. When did I start partying? And I was a boy when I came back from russia and the like. How much are you drinking you're, not a lot. My first to you years because I wasn't twenty one of those eighteen nineteen, my first years I wasn't twenty ones. I didn't really like drink and said. Why would We mean you didn't really drake. I said so raised not to break the law that it was ingrained in my head. Do not break,

my dad was a lawyer, and so now we're, drank and drove never made like like. A jet. Never did it because it s idyllic, what times that, but I never did it because my dad- I was eager pulled over drunk they're gonna. Take it a jail and he would just kind of break it down of what happens from that went on and never never had a fake. I d. Never would I never. I never comfortable holding a beer when I was underage cause, because I was waiting for an in the cupboard cop to come up to me at a party, be like him at twenty one and then cause I just in tallahassee, that would happen and I never really drink. But I it's weird. I wonder if I've been still these same values, my daughters They see me. Somebody doesn't really follow the rules, although I'm a real, weird rule follower They see me as someone like who like does it thing like didn't when I was a travel. Gentle didn't they got a job, they thought

I would just complications sure Bertha Kircher. yeah there like you, you should write rollercoaster coasters, that's a real job that one days, a trip for out of a job, and so it's interesting. You say that because I feel like I was so guided by by like a weird, strict value system, but, and I fucked up- I did it, but I you know I smoked pot. You ever did you ever like smoked pot like growing up at all, No, I didn't. I tell you why, because when I in again back the district projects, a lot of drug use. There were sp in all and sprang and they'll have in spray paint. You know you spray it into a a lunch bag. I saw little kids on drugs. The tina, is on drugs, and I saw a happened. It wasn't the glory, I like, when I was in the eighties and got eyes cool. like all hail as to a couple as it was a different,

I didn't do it, then the boy was a different vibe, but I saw what drugs did two kids and so I was scared- not too because I saw probably more real side of what drugs, and then I made my that promise to my mother. So to this day, the first time I had cannabis was on booze traveller in nepal- with bob as we wish pushed up- and me bang lassie and I drank it then, and there of course during the highroad, tried different things medicinal for my cancer, the rapidly and things like that, but yeah, his way behind the curve, you would think give him the project would would have done everything. But again- my my vow to my mother and grandmother was so important. Me so I did other things. I've been known to have a couple of cocktails now and then, but as far is really stretching it do another things I really do. I never even smoked a cigarette. To be honest, so do we, when you moved out to or to arizona? Where was he

many securities have like your accent lawyer? Oh those, kids, absolutely and and of course you know phoenix at the time not a lot of people will move in and legacy six hundred thousand. It grew from there. Of course again. this is a time and I D, seventy five and does they would make funding goes to a couple of kids from back east but not to money. That was a long way to go, and I d ever joe It was a! U turn funny. I said I thought funny. You talk funny You say car. What's a car, it's a cat. we the cars right there. What are you talkin about this? What say that again, I said the karlsruhe, there. What what are you talkin about and they like it's a car dude, I'm like yeah, I so How long before we're gonna get over this, because again some people wanted to pick army because, as some guys, some girl started was ghouls those kind of a weird tradeoff. You know like that. New boy is such an accident and then, as I put it on strike.

you, John yeah yeah sure yeah from bosnia. Whenever I get he'll, be in an ok. You gotta fitted how cause it, though them when Boston became like when that, when Boston became coolly, shit, like with Ben african those guys I mean all the comics all my all. My friends are from Boston, practically Gary gorman dane cook Joe rogan bill. Bur, patrice o neill rest, his soul, like all our body Kelly there, so many colleagues from Boston that I feel that and I started at a comedy club called the Boston comedy club by this guy. Barry cats chosen from Boston and its All of a sudden, I'm ever having this big influence of Boston. my life and then goodwill hunting came out and everything was boston. Everything like and our stories about whitey, bolder and like it was like so Boston must have in a cool time timed like be the guy that everyone was pretending to be. Does that here

Sure, though it was, it was really nice that people got to know my name. In my city- and I can't take credit- I love when I was thirteen that I move back there for a short while I said that a move back again, but I mean it people never left shall pass an amateur. Those are the real boston kids, but I love when people from Boston a successful, especially from south boston, because it we'll difficult from those circumstances I get a lot of help, in other words, right lot of us have a poor and broken homes and all that and that's okay. I just mean I am rude for people with everybody, but people from Boston. It was great I grew up in a different Eric some a lot older than you, but we had. Steve, sweeney and dennis leary and Lenny Clarke, things like that, so Don Gavin. So I I grew up watching those guys and I'm like oh wow, there's so one and funny it's cool and from past and go for them, but I know you got up lot of boston peeps, because I I listened to and watch your point.

Guess, then that you're always have great people, honor I love you. I love that its great really want anyone succeeds, but you gotta admit. someone from the neighborhood does even if I don't know them, I really never really met those. we die. I met then cook once it is really. Nice is actually boy. In framing, am I was born in that but the boy in the same hospital. Oh, you can times because he's a youngster but yeah does great at and of course, the boston gets overdone and thereby to get Imagine me, what's with all the boston movies, where I don't make them, I made an anime. What are you talking about? It's not my fault. It's not like. I am I'm saying. Let's just do blast the movies. I got to play a tiny little part in mystic river. I was the helicopter pilot. You don't see me, you just hear my voice and I wasn't in the the the helicopters just I did it in post post production and I it was fun because you know to to have that one connection. but it's not like I'm in every boston will be I'm not in any of them. Does not my fault. and yeah, maybe it's a little begun, but so what my man,

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in my experience of hollywood, I got I got a top ten list of people that have been that are just I'd, be friends with if they weren't in the business. Just a great great ross. Babbit is one of the greatest dudes I've ever worked for in my life without a fucking doubt yang is a big fan of yours and he was the first. person to look at the pilot of booze traveller. As you know, travel channel had nothing to do with that. They were just to women who are friends and shot this. This very shaky, pilot, but he saw it and saw something there and said you know we could do something. this all out forever be grateful to rouse babbage advancement, I want to know about the. I didn't know that about booze traveler. me what happened, how to boost rather come about hold on, hang on. I moved phone in this in this document

I take it, I get time got the handsome hello, hello. She is not here. Can you try her on her cell phone yup Thank you. Sorry. I've had only one in do radio this morning, So tell me about how to bruised travel come about well I just went on an audition really and the like. I said these these two women who were new to the to the business in some sense, I don't think either were either of them had a a show that they had sold to a network but they had this grand plan that they would do a show going around the world and you haven't drinks, and cause I had been done before. Zane lamprey had done it. Of course, the thirsty. I believe in boy dane rest. His soul incorporated a lot of drinks, I like it was a new idea, but I had not. I was not

familiar with any of those at the time I didn't monster, apple channel. I don't watch any reality. Basting for me was all e S, p and animal planet. I mean what they know once in a while. I love sports I'll have seen their the raw, nay you're, just how it did not scripted. I and I was not a reality- show guy at all, I'm still not really sure and for me with any they, although you everyone her at heard above anti, but then of course show Go in this condition, and they wanted to tell you what it is I sign in india and they don't say the drinking show, and they said by the way. This is someone else's job already. Wages time till he comes in from Dallas tomorrow, and so we have. In addition, in case we do something down the road of something like that and so I said: ok, whatever releases a lot of pressure, I'm not gonna, get it. Usually it's ten minutes and before I realize I'm not gonna get something so either great

and they started talking about? Would you do this? Would you do that aside? I got there was a travel show. Have you been here ben there, how many countries, how many continents and then they said, would you ever eat rocky mountain oysters? And we all know those of bulls. testicles, of course, and you never say no, I didn't audition. You know that just like in in an improper improv, it's you and you don't say no right, so I said sure of course, and they said well, ok, would you drink them in vodka you said I eat them the questions. Guy harder. Would it me where drink everything it vika rusty, penny broken rocks magnets. What do you mean? That's easy, but is it ok grade What would you call it I said sounds like a hidell said. Oh wait a minute

Is that how you would approach this show if you got it fun? I I don't know- I mean it's just gonna, tell me what it is says. I get some adieu a dragon guy going around the world it, for I have a couple. Alas, right is oh: will we looking for more serious thing like anthony boy day- and I said that that's great anthony's great at what he does but then again I had heard of one people that talked about, so I was familiar with the show, even though I had not seen an episode. I said from what I understand he he I I could never do it they're miserable and author and chef, and traveller. I could never do that kind of show and he wouldn't want to do it my way, I don't think so. I guess that's how I do it and they should a great while it is kind of a drink and show gonna bring it back tomorrow, callback, so I came back and they narrative they kept. Now it down, and this is I was an out and out I've found the date they they can figure out what they want to give it to show they do. The old left turn thing required. They say tell us

a sport that you love or something like that was yeah I love street. Argue our agenda. Two thousand, tell us a dirty joke, it better, be dirty and funny. You have two seconds to start. Otherwise you lead go and like what and then I just wanted to a joke, because they they again they were throwing people out. If you couldn't think quick on your feet or something like that, so I I told the dirtiest filthiest funniest joke. I could think of and they liked it. and then the labour that day they offered to me. I came back into the room and I said I can't do it well. What do you mean? You can't do it after two days about decisions at go. What you mean you can what I'm doing a film and committed to it and you guys have to leave the country by this date? I have a couple what days left on the movie. You can't do it. You have to be a say by saying: no, and usually I wouldn't, but I wanna dance

all the time to get a job at this game. The practice they take. Kindly after calling me every name in the book moved instead of going to india, we went to nepal and a couple other places. but they moved to schedule around and we went off and did the pilot for what became boost traveller was called something else at the time said by the way we don't really loved the name. Can you come up with something? So I ran by my mother. I would bounce things off of a glass of wine as you very creative. She wanted jack on the rocks at best, come down and oh, but it's not ship rod or so but booze travelin they lichens submitted to them, I work in the network went with it. Rarely do, and so there you go so, but it took it took a year before they got it to travel, channel and travel channel. a bit, they patient it out to their agency, nobody bid on it and and and then finally, they got to ross at

at real screen, which, if you don't know what real screen is, is a place where you meet This is a network heads in your pic shows you learn how to rights, groups and all the other stuff. I guess, and the industry goes there basically and one of those created just put laptop and front ross and said, look at this and he did it was that our works, but ok look at it and he liked it and then in them in the meat. I travelled channel. He pictured to everyone and said I liked the eu and they said yes and he caught a bet it better career on it, the time, or at least is judge, is credibility. If nothing else and so from the town we found it till the time they picked. Her up was just over a year and then we went to enforce. Isn't it was great? Was there was loreen at the network when you got there? I think, just at the very big before they really lit it up, but then Shannon o took over and he loved it. So that's why, we started to do he was our president for a second year. He was, he was it.

A champion of the show and in a nice guy- and I still you know, target we want to. I love you know on line or o o tax, because I remember the people who I really support, that I don't just mean the people can do something for him in the people who believe in you before maybe, can you believe in yourself and they give you not budge? wanted to show what you can do and then from there. Ah, you know he gets the ball rolling in. I did this play. The play that may be an actor, did a play called friends and I loved it so much because I really related to it as a street smart. Although struggling kid, and it was hard and the things he had to go through, but one of the lines from the players you just needles encouragement treat and every time I heard it in the past I just thought of my real and how much that would have meant a difference to me so that a stayed with me forever. That line and I ended up being at the end the studio waste study acting to this day and the author was standing in front of me and I I the author s,

on demand, I said loud kessler, your play made me an actor and I'm gonna to work with them. To sum up, a couple of things: but it just funny how it all comes around, but but for the people who leave than me just like with you? I mean there, crazy enough to do so. ok. Yes to this show noted this show and they let you go, which I'm sure they regret to this day. But you know you just keep on and you say. Okay, I believe in myself now I know I can do it, so you just keep doing it. It's interesting! I I was. I am working on this. I have a working on this book and I I have a I have the way I look at the world. a little skewed, doing anything, it yeah you get up world but one one of the things. I was one of the things I was taught about austrian was out with my wife was rough in law, I would not nest.

Severally, look at the people that were succeeding and see what they did to succeed. I think that such a it's such a a sliding scale of why people succeed and that no one will ever acknowledge, though never know Weber acknowledged the real things that made them successful like like I'm trying to I'm trying to be like I love Kevin heart. I love Kevin heart, a love cuban heart, so I can't really use it as an example.

But he's someone that always attributes his success to his hard work, his work ethic and but there's things that he did that affected him. The you can't have affect you, because it it that's his life that that is why he is famous. You know the fact that he grew up with a dad who was a drug addict and and a single mom, like those certain things like that. Are things in people's lives that, like you know, the fact that your dad was a drug addict is why you said I won't ever do drugs we ship you. You also need that in your life to be sick, for its part of its part of the cap is that makes up the man the things that you can't control. Sometimes you can add them in your life like there's, no way I can go. Why need my dad

we are drug addicts. Why don't use drugs or something like that? So what I always did when I looked when I I've always done this? Is I've looked at the failures of men as just simply a navigation of what to avoid goddamn, it gimme a second Allah Allah guide them so, but I looked at people's failures so like I, if I worked with a guy who was successful, I would find out the things they did that I didn't like, and then I would- and I would highlight those in my head- there's a song by perfect Circle called Judith And- and this line hit me so hard. I think it's a you're such an inspiration for a way that I never want to be, and so like. I I kind of would tag on it

and so one of the things I was thinking the other day was, I was like you know, I'm really grateful for all the people that at times I thought did me wrong, or I thought didn't, get me or didn't like me that and of closed doors for me, because all those closed doors got me to hear- and I dont know what open doors but in my my youth would have been looked like what it looked like last comics, ending. I remember I remember I didn't get lost extending to our member we're about have georgia, and I got this little duck for her. She was about to be born in there's. A little duck by the gift store in this hotel in new york, and I was I couldn't. I couldn't get past the fact that I was gonna, be a father and I was a failure that I was and I just got, kicked off. Reality show and Jim Norton said to me he came up behind me and he said I m sorry about not getting through to the

it's, but you know, hey it's a journey of something like that said something to the fact of its journey and in a bit going to be grateful that I remember him saying you're going to be grateful that you this didn't happen for you and I was like how the fuck can, I ever be great, for not exceeding now I looked back and I go ok had got my last come a standing. I would have been famous odin, very famous everyone. The famous, and I can only be it stand up for like four years and would never be ready to be writing. Mature and turning over material and doing my act in an I would, if I would have failed, I would have failed and I now I beat always trying to come back from that failure. Some glad of that. So I was thinking about. I have patients their name, but I yeah the wholesome be about her name, but she was the president. When I got let go of the travel channel and had she not fired me, I would never have been at that exact same place. I was right after last, comic standing sitting

behind that desk with my hands, if my shot. But this was a mistake in this position going like what the fuck am. I gonna do like. I had a family, we are reviewing our house, I put my stanhope career kind of on hold to really put all my eggs in the travel channel basket and I was like what am I gonna do like what How do I get out of this, and I remember thinking I am feeling like I just was like kicked out of a family. It was so hard, but that hadn't happened I wouldn't have built up, the things I needed to succeed I wouldn't be where I am today and so like in a weird way. I was thinking, I'm so grateful that she didn't get my personality and as she does, was like I don't understand why you'd be on my way, makes total funding sense, I'm overweight, right roller coaster, I'm an alcoholic like all these things are like a fucking

this guy, why am I having to deal with it? So well, you know the same person. Let me go as well. For other reasons. Same reason I don't know, maybe because they were gone what to the paranormal, but I feel the same way because has gone through chemo, maybe I would a rushed back too soon or I would have pulled the needle Adam. I am just to go. Do an another episode and I will be where I am now, but earlier when you were saying about that about You never know summons failures. Are hardships, make them into a certain kind of person? Voltaire as one of my favorite sayings, and it certainly applies to me and I'm sure you too, in some way, but he said the greatest gift you can give an artist. is an unhappy childhood and added. I didn't get that when I've heard it at first. Because I was too young then when I heard it again as an adult I realize is that we use all of that to to look

life a certain way and if I had been born with a silver spoon in my mouth and had we think easy. I know I know I appreciate and it sounds cliche I know, but if all of that didn't happen, maybe I would have turned to drugs. If my father wasn't a drug addict, maybe it wouldn't have worked so hard to try to be success or a good person. If I didn't have both. it's bad influence and my mother and grandmothers good influence. So I give it to that too. Good the best such a good way to look at about your right when you look at both sides, dark and the like. That's who you are the yen anna yeah, you can't you can't tell Kevin heart, can't tell someone! Listen! You need to be under sized and living in a bag. Neighbourhood, where you feel for a feel for feel for fear full for your life and yet that's how you're going to develop a personality is that you need to be defending yourself that when you get down to school, people are going to start busting your balls, because they think you can then you need to be able to come back and you need The comedy is an offence like you do those things he could. He could say them in Israel speech, but

Those are so important to the development of a man of him and his success. You know Europe, the rock. This is gonna, I'm a big fan of the fuckin rock, but the rock needs doing this guy imposed raised like number one you ve gotta, be absurd for the occupation, where you feel like you dad was disrespected and district. Because he was an african american in a time. When wrestling was predominantly a southern male like that. You not like that. You need to add those things and because that driving motivator pushes the rock to be the guy years today. So, like a trade union, I could never look at someone successes and go. Ok. Ah, ah I like I am trying to use, I had examples, but can't use them, because people would know who the person is and it's unfair to share the things. But what I could definitely do is look at where he fucked up and go okay. Stay away from that, like that was a real, clear roadmap for me, growing up sure

with the rock he read his book years ago, and I play for the universe in miami hurricanes, football team and he got injured. Germany didn't have the clear that he wanted to so that was a driving force to because the trainer kept bustin is jobs about. It is Are you got for me? You're not working hard enough in his heart show your hard work and he became of course it in wrestling with the hardest work? Is there wasn't surely one of the most successful, but right stems from how his father and grandfather were treated, and he wanted to do. You know extend their legacies, prayer grin that's why I feel it is Your father father work, given that there were no right at the time there was no value and not value but like in the wrestling order. Was the blonde hair blue eye rip flare all kogi, and that was what was popping and when I am in dusty roads and like, and so I think it's it's so interesting no appreciation paid to the hawaiian culture or black culture in time and now you look at it and it's like a wine culture.

I think everyone realises that. Oh forget, wiser bad acids like that now it's the same way southie. Is they sure those those Ireland is men. Tough on eighty would go member that you know that story a dead? Just they are there. They are bad. Ass is for sure it's crazy I'm taxi when my daughter, georgia, then, when you just talking to yeah, how sweet that you still have the duck? Yeah she that's great look at this: success, you ve become because you measure it but you're a wonderful fund. a family man had a husband. That's that's true success in that you focused on whether you got gigs and, man, so I think euro is a success honestly, how I've I've by my life, I'm too it's a thing is like I have hard time giving advice to people, because my life is so not make sense on paper and so like

I couldn't tell you how I could ask you wouldn't followed that road map. You know it's funny. We have. the connection that you don't even know about. I did a short now, when I first got to allay and wanted to be an actor and end the writers, not because of this short film, necessarily they went on and and it's the last time I heard from them. They said we are. Writing, on this other film and I say oh grade what what what is it? national lampoons van wilder, it's true story of this crazy guy and its feature and right Reynolds does not so well known. Then I find out that you as one who always this for what, Israeli really a wild crazy, easier like they read that by John baluchi wasn't animals, and all of that then years later I get to travel childlike while I'm drunk This is the guy this in an hour. Hell. If a lot of people know that or whether we want to talk about it, but I always

From that moment, I was remember who you were in an end, your name and all of that and what a journey of does. Why said, you wouldn't necessary lay that out as a roadmap. To as I do, there was a house, How can I tell someone? Hey guys protocols for seven years? Don't do anything with your life and then just put all eggs in the basket that rolling stone magazines, dinners discover you that's just up for that, and I hope that the biggest movie star in the world his big role is played. Like that's fucking. Is it so hard? to emulate someone success that its. I find it almost the almost irresponsible to write a self help book because you like it so everything it's so fucked up, yet you may be doing all the right things and then all of a sudden, you know I'm watching this thing on bruce Lee last night, you you have a fucking aneurysm like what like legit. It's crazy about our talk. I want to talk about your new show, our pivot

talk about your new show, but, but I'm dying to know like tell give people like a a soft cell of how much fun it was to shoot booze driver. Could you went every you add everyone's dream job yeah. You know a lot of pay I would say that they say I want your job. I said I'm still doing it don't want to kill me and take it. It was really because I had not come from the hosting world. I had hosted something yet way years before that, but my dream was to be an an actor, and so I I did a couple, a guest stars on a couple of shows. You might know in this, and then I got to do with this play without but chino and I thought wow is it if I do nothing else to be on stage with maybe our greatest living actor and and jessica Chastain, and it was just it was just humble just the experience was so fulfilling that I didn't really have

an inkling to do hosting an and then it came around, and I should wait a minute. What am I stupid their say and you get to go around the world have drinks, maybe get paid for a problem how much does it cable television, but you get to meet items? I saw. Maybe what may be sixty countries six cod. whence out of the seven and that's only goes penguin Oh my moonshine. We would again if we gave us a reason to all the different people and cultures. It's something that I would have paid for after the fact. Knowing what I know and how wonderful it was not don't get me wrong. The tree Everything is hard. It's a crime and- and you know sometimes you just don't feel like doing it, because you jump across into national. You you get what our sleep one day, fifteen the next, not too many those days by the way. and you always have to be on, began the crows they would come and go the caravan, the saga guys you know because its exhausting

only an area, would do every episode. Yeah, oh, do that so show, but but I knew that it was gonna be over soon. Then I wanted it to be at some point. So just that experience- and I have always believed coming from nothing, of course, Ah that that we were enhanced more by the experiences we had a knife and the people in our life more than we are by material goods, so thankful. I believe that, because now I'm back to be our job again it is it was it was it. I mean I'd, remember looking back on god, damn that would be the fucking show like that would be like how you Did you just didn t just got paid for doing a different kind of show? Are you whether you are less guy? I was drinking was drinking. I was drinking like we were shooting those traveller, but just doing triplet, that's right now, I'm sure I'm sure of it, I'm sure of it. I was,

it was so fun to see cause. I had gone there when it was me an atom richmond, whose them learn and anthony bourdain were like this for posts and I'm sure zack and those guys from those two ventures but that was kind of the group and then you dawn wild men and and dumb am todd. Car Michael showed up and it was like it was like a bird, the fresh air and remember seeing you guys it up front, and it was just like it was like you guys were so until further need so didn't, give a fuck. And I think adam- and I were at the point where the time We're so involved with. You know, trying at our numbers up, and you know like such a it was such like, add fails, going to add sales go to those up front and going gregg gregory jesting going yet tell me who

Tell me who we can sell? Tell me who we can get to buy at a soda shoved mile thing with triplet, as we only did it. I mean we got green, that for it, but we are goal was to get every episode paid for by sponsors sure that we could make it for free, and so I remember that in europe, as it came in todd. Carmichael got drunk at one of the upfronts, and I was like god, damn it he's drinking. I wouldn't be drinking, I got lucky, I have to say I really it's to me like winning the lottery, a guy. That would really know jose spanish speaker surely not in it in this yonder, but to be given this show, and so then again, I said to myself arrived I have the honour those who not only who brought me to this point, but the people like you and the others you named. I have to be good and I have to this network.

putting a lot of time and money to not only building a brand. But to doing did this television show because at the end of the day it was a gift that wasn't work I would have paid, I would have paid them of course. Maybe that's why they pay so little. They know they know we love to adorn right, but at the same, at the same time, boy, what an experience That was, I mean I would. I would have done that forever. I never would have left and said now. I want to call do movies. I want to do this. There was just greeks. I love people and learning about these cultures. live in person through what's goin, It was amazing, maggots called what's corn, I think most people don't realize is like. You get to steal moments for yourself in those shows like member. I remember we are fishing where fishing in a dugout canoes off the coast of costa rica before son. Eyes, and I watched the sunrise come up over mountain we're having cocktails and the boat. It's like stick the morning. you you get to steal moments, krieger through your own.

Like memory bank. What meant what what memories do you have of europe where you're like like real, like? I was drinking drinking up in nepal with the fucking chirp and he was spitting, to do the aid of spit it back into the bowl? That's how they made the the like. What moments did you get that you got to steal for yourself by the way before I tell you that that's a great point to make because is when you do that, and you are truly in the moment. They can sense that day this is not produced television this guy is really living this moment at the time, and you could see the joy of of that experts, areas on his face so did take those moments to understand the not just skip pass them. Because everyone huts on earth. I think, given that opportunity would really take, in you got a sunrise off costa rican about dugout canoes haven't cartels. You don't pause at that moment and say this is pretty cool. When do you then right when when would you ever show? For me,

there were so many. Ah you know I remember the one that I just never forget, because it involves my family as the second season. We started in a place that they actually ask me: where would you like to go? He that's that's my favorite, that's my favorite thing I bet the one thing I miss more than anything out of the travel channel was that phone call. We would get it in january and it'll be planning out the season and they go okay, pick thirteen places you want to go and you'd be like and but and and you had budget either like four or internet browser was like, for international aid or are in the states, and so it, but it was the great this fucking phone call the world. It was you ask me where I want to go on this dream trip of my absolutely so I chose cecily because My mother's grandfather left there as a young man and an never returned. Certainly not

live, and I had all this family there that I never met, but they know they knew of meat who television and what have you and they they heard stories from america I really old school in a little time. outside of palermo culture mina, so I said good. My mother would take about it on occasion, I've cousins in Chicago that would talk about it. They would go visit. So I said that sick, but not only that now that I one season now I was saying you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna bring my mother, I'm gonna bring my mother. to meet to say hello again to her dna people. She's ever met to really can act, and I did that allow it my stepfather brought them and it. to me to see the joy on my mother's face meeting our family, hear stories about her grandfather as a young kid and and everybody's crying concept,

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the one we mention wants to come in and put her farm print on their network joy. This is what I did. I brought today, no president than then that was the problem I had at the network was no president wants to inherit, show that is moderately successful. They'll keep around I members is man, food or border in or Andrews emory, but if you are moderately successful, the present for the most part psych. If we can see if we can re purpose this talent less, do that but I don't. I don't wanna just flounder on a show that either I give a shit about, and that was what happened to birth, conquer and that's why they switched me into trip flip and then that's why they switch me back into birth to conquer. When I got up, I had so many fucking shows on travel channel and I had like, scream, if you know the answer, I had a blueprint show. I had been such a fucking bizarre experience there, because I think people

it's me they wanted me to work there sure they did, but no one wanted to like. Not I it was. We just had so many goddamn presidents at the time. But what do you think was the reason he cut you off? I'm sorry! No! No! That's! Okay! I you know I I, thankfully I didn't focus on it too much. because I probably would have felt bad about myself, because I was gone through chemo and I wanted to you saved my life first and foremost, the job comes after that right, but I was told, through the person at the network who made the phone call and others that it wasn't a personal thing that they are. As you know, they had sold scripts who owned all the networks, food hdtv travel channel die why cooking and food or whatever, maybe they showed the discovery show I think that people were scrambling around worried about their job, and like you say, if it just gonna, be moderately successful show anybody can do that so that you know it's it's.

They want to move things around, just to say, look at how we arrange three rearrange the chest pieces. Look at us out at an end. I can't blame them. Obviously they have to do whatever they can to save their job. Better. O me anything, but I believe that it wasn't because of the key more anything, because a couple a shows that the council hotel impossible with anti look you're in a couple of other things because I live lucky show hotel impossible or at any rate is great in it. You know any such a good guy, you know it's, not your goddamn good guy yankee is It's such a good guy goddamn and I totally forgot about hotel impossible. He was such a solid fucking. Dude salad is actually the first person of all the host on travel channel first, one to call me and say welcome to the network and it, but just a good guide and do that for any visa. Then it just is just a good guy but cement brown was so great a beginning. I love,

say I love them brown. I just did it at the sort of her a show emmi award winning shall places to love on pbs. She came to arizona where I was doing treatment and and so I showed around phoenix in that episode was what was wonderful, but you know who It was exactly the calculation that they'd that they go through in their mind, but because- they. I wasn't. The only showed that they pulled, I figured they would just gone into debt. direction. You know they they were going in and out of me to make of those shows at all it's great, but they wanted to go more gusty than just, one or two that they had an end? Now, it's as I'm told by by people who reach out and social media that that's all the door and said not even travel anymore. It's too early, and that's why I don't know it's well, because if that works, but in order I think the ratings are through the roof.

they're doing better than they have ever done their adsense. If either of manners, people like up that I've got it in the guy who did explanation unknown jackets, just gates was a ghost on her. First, why? He oh yeah, like did, there's something about there's something about ghost hunting that really gets fans to tethered to you for the rest of your life like zack is, I mean, is zero so and- and you know what here's the other thing I'll say, and I I should do a podcast with zak and Aaron, maybe but like they, had hundred percent control over their show, they simply would give their show to them and travel tuna. We just there were never any notes, no one ever told them what to do they their show. I mean they're so ahead of the game, the curve they got their show, did their show. They had all control over and not to say, like zack steam, it was fuckin zack in

and they were in an editing bagel. Unlike you, we go worthy sitting over some shoulder so name, so and in their show got ratings. I'm telling you the ratings, their show were incorrect in fame and secret. I'm I'm not allowed to share this brought back and say it anyway no one ever wanted to get behind that goddamn show. Scribes was a christian organization and I think they thought it was like the occult directive promoting the debt so like that, never had add sales. They never did need any of that shit. They had the network bent over backwards because because fuckin that they show got such I fucking ratings, they were king of the roost. I mean, but it's that I think the network's doing phenomenal right now, like le way better than had ever did height of bourdain members is food Bertha Kircher, booze traveller

drew them and like a pitiable, bizarre destinations, I'd above all about, I think, the network's killing I know my butlers no not butlers running the now. right now he's a really good friend of mine like I have, now, when we do shows, when I do those in maryland I'll have him in his friends of his family out, and I think I think I actions be from above all but like they are killing it like Everyone got out there because the beer, and by the way their shows a fucking good meal. I, since it up I I wanted to work with him again so low map, other butler buzzer was the first team that brought me in map butler, charlie parsons. That's before them. green and fred ass before shannon and before they did before all those fuckin people, but they did. They came back around after all that time guy running the network. Now was the guy. The got fired from the network when er quit

he quit, but when Laureen came in they cleaned house and I think, map bounced someone over discovery. I shouldn't I shouldn't I'm speaking way out of school, and so I apologize- and I probably got all the facts wrong. So please don't like I'm just telling you cite. Usc hosts, never knew anything. I Didn'T- and I still don't know anything I dunno yeah- a butlers, a great dude, and I feel when you go back, I mean you'd have to take a big pay cut. And you'd have to work a lot harder european away from your family life Would you do that now cause you're on tour and oh here's the deal I try. I tried to go back. I tried to like I that's the that's my white whale as that network is like is I I had such insecurity around that network. It's like. He know what it's like. It's like the hot chick in highschool. but you had a crush on and now you ve graduated college in you run into her and she's she's, like back in your home, town and she may be, never left new, moved to new york and I fear and she's like hey. What are you

when back in town and you're, like oh shit and then you're like. I wonder if I'm going to bucher and then yeah, and so I talked to Dan Adler, I thought I thought then other adler butler way too much like I talked to them constantly about. We tried The one show at one point like a big special and then, and then it just didn't work out of my tory maturing was was kind of blown up, and then we tried to do another thing very recently and it just everything was so it? It's just was so problematic when we try to work around to figure out if we could figure out a way to do so, because it was just so complicated and you know what you know the odyssey. It thought it isn't necessarily about the money for me It's it's more about, like I really loved I'll. I really believed in that network, and I love that network. I loved the group of people that I worked with. I lost my habit ross bad. It was such a great deal.

I worked with dale and all the people were high noon like you be follow up for me. What I did in this is bizarre. We looked back at it and you'll go. Are you serious? I would sign up to do in episode and then I would force all the I'm remain sound. I am producers to sign up for the whole season. You could not least because I didn't want new cameramen. I wanted. I had a certain group that I'd like to be around like that, wake myself with them. We all what drove in one van we'd, rent two vans and I'd be in a band with the exact same people, so I could make all my inappropriate, jokes and it. is like having a family and I miss them wholeheartedly. Like I'd summit, greatest times I'm out of my life. Where was as like a blast the admission to bird, I no exact but what you say in a very few of us that know exactly what that experiences like now, those who agree days for me I'll always cherish them, and I miss them too. There's nothing like no one will understand this, except for us, but there's nothing like a long day of shooting. You do you're on your, like your third set up and you're at as you are

location- and you know technically, this isn't going to make the show but you're just doing one more shot. Just have yourself covered we were in, we were in new zealand with just gone to hobbiton and we were doing a why in tasting wine, tastings never made the fuckin show they never The show, because it was just like it's it's the weirdest thing tat scarcely on triplet with two people that had never been on camera? Have them try to explain why since it was so cut like everyone, there's a workaround for us about which I feel is full bodied. I really get the hints oak and god knows- I see that we would do as a host, but a better europe I talent on his own, you just a regular person, it's good one guy. I remember going we're tasting pineapple wines and he said- and I said what do you feel any dead seriously, because some days

annabelle unwarlike, yeah, I'm gettin, big hints of pineapple more like it's made from pineapple- and I could try to like used to, I go- try not to just tell us what the obvious things you're sensing tell us how you feel, and he goes it's like a carnival flavour in my mouth, but we're we were going to set up a new zealand is one of my favorite, where you're just punts, drunk you're, you're you're jet lag you're tired urged set up his son setting. We know as soon as this is over her with a mere with the most up tight woman who, just honestly, was not having it I didn't like where we initially set it up. She wanted to set up a certain way. This was her vineyard. She wanted it set up on a hill. It just made no fucking sense for us to be drinking wine and ill as yet. All these food set up. She had planned this on being a much bigger segment than we had promised or maybe, and so we get there and she d

it's not like me and she asked if I could not be in the shot on the fucking host, then as it is yours I think, is better of ios. That, like have, I hosted his arm. I know what I'm saying: no you're saying so, while the thing economic. Am I had on my back and take me out of it and in our producers like no no, no bernice guinea shots and I hope she says this. One this one pairs well with a of fig jelly on a cracker. I think you'll notice, the hints in this one pairs better better with a strawberry jam like you've, you taste the difference and then she said, do you know the difference between jam and jelly, and I said I actually, do- and she said really my whole cruiser birds, the most unrefined guy in the world. How to- and I said you can't jollier deck in some- ass. She must have died,

it was done. We wrapped we walked out there like that, that woman we'll be reaching out to the network and letting them those elinor happy is. insane. Ah, I'm gonna that didn't make it to air. It was so worth it just watching I yeah. I gotta admit I wish I'd. Tell you what I'll tell you what I'll do this is where I'm this, where I'm at right now, I would like to I if I wonder if it's even fucking possible I would then illegal possible bird. I do share with them travel channel. What I'd do is I'd. Take all the footage from all my past shows. And I would add it show together the way Aaron s and zack do it. I wouldn't show- and I would put all those fucking moments where we laughed hysterically as a crew and just and take out the branding like the the branding private channel, the family friendly shit. I would just make a bad I show up like a like What I do now, why am I saying I just I just do it now? I would just like we did. We do

store on driving movie theaters and I'm filmy it and fill me with one of my foot, shooters from triplet and promote conquer shooting he's travelling with back. I call on my producers from triplet and said: hey. Can you kind of we bore this outwards or give us an idea of direction and kind to be our base camp. Where we can. If we need the access somewhere, we can have you got before we pull in, and so I would just do it myself enough. I think that's what's problematic about things now. Is it You can do everything herself happiness. Podcast is just me a blue, I mean it's it's you know and it and I am in it it's more its work profitable, because you not paying agents managers then go. traveling the world and doing show, but god dammit that was fucking. Fun phone was so so what are you just get the foot from them and do it yourself and put it together. I think it's a great idea. I tried that, with Buena murray, I shouted show with putin, worry that is the funny ashore I've ever been a part of my life. It is me, ask I feel vaughan

and this guy bread Ernst and we started a fraternity and we did it a reality show we put it in craigs list and we got a guy, we didn't that anyone and we got twelve guys in allay- and we took him for a week and to start fraternity- and this show was so inappropriate. It was so funny fucking hilarious, that I received the marie and I said: can I just because it didn't go anywhere as I can. I just buy that footage from you. I would love to buy that footage and then edit, my own, show sure said. No, I guess there's, no, I guess there's no benefit in them. Like could see, there's not enough money like you, they know you. Money for them to give a fuck about it. Where is it now sitting on the bottom of the toy box, with the stretch, Armstrong and apart cheesy game on what it is? going to see the light of day yeah. I would love I mean I don't know. I was one of them one of the times I pitched to travel channel I'd. Let me on the footage, because I wanted to own the footage cause. I I know I know that the stuff we shall

sometimes it is stop that didn't make it was so much better than the stop is sometimes I feel, the same way with eyes. So what would have to travel to say no to as well travel channel said no, while drought, it I think both put amarian trojan are afraid that you're gonna get more successful with what you do and they're gonna Then people are going to say. Why, couldn't you guys do what you had the footage right? No, my friends would say why are you having this conversation? Just do your own thing now like that's where everyone's heads at, but you know it's like you have a guy like ross. You know rasa great exam, oh but abigail across in your ear or in your corner kind of giving you a direct, an angle that he sees is valued at that. Like there's value, you know, I think so often the government, really inside baseball, but so often a producer is not you get a producer and you and they get they become especially feel producers are kind of just like

following someone else's lead. do not really have their own mind and then, when you work with real producers, like legit producers like like out like us, and adler who created member subdued created birth, conquer dan out? There is a link like Not only is he problem solver in any office, but he's a problem solver in the field and he's a great visionary guy he's a great like season four out of the box and an knows how to get it into the box or like ours, I worked with a working with some producers now on on me, these and on on tv show that is a little low higher end than then travel channel and one of the producers we were just literally just caught talking on the phone before this started he's. One of those guys that like when she gets confusing he comes in the room as dislike spiritual leader, to put everyone back on track in your like and like I just

said the somewhat out work with him every fuckin time, because, as suit like he sees big visions like you need those people that see the big vision, and so I love a great producer is so valuable and great exactly got great, exactly matt butler or or Even I know I mean I like the like, shannon like all the ones we worked with it, the that we're like just awesome people find individuals loreen as as well loreen, we know the rain was. I was not a huge fan of mine, like she definitely didn't. Like me, I think, have to jump, and I dont know if she ever really liked, but but I, if I had once again one of the things that we were talking about earlier, where you find the things that you didn't like what they did and you let those be your guide and then the things that that you the end and there was lots of positives to lorene. You know and you just kind of find those positives. It's

easy. It's crazy. So tell me about your new shout tell me about your new, so sure nets the way to look at it by the way, because the shannon nails and rosin courtney wide the people and cargo seven with did such a great job, they all made that you, I was the face of it, but they all me go and they don't get the credit that they should the time, but you are so right. A really great producer can make the difference. Conversely, a bad people so can rarely screw it up, and you know I we went through a couple where people would do they just didn't get it. They didn't understand, and so what I wanted to be theirs, they wanted to be there. That's right, that's exactly right! So this new thing only came from, like you say you eat, you get hit with something, and you can deal with it. We have control over is choices. We how we feel about is the only thing right, so I get cancer.

Loser show I have to go through chemo, which is that there's no day at the beach. Let me tell you, that's not fun, of course. So, but I do it and I take it, and I accept it and I say I'm going to get better and everything's gonna be okay, but I can't sleep at night, so I taught on a recommendation. I started taking cbd and it works in its. Wonderful. I meet these people who say hey. Let's do this show long story short, we do a show and- and it comes from the perspective of hey, I barely wasn't a cannabis user before you know, for all these different reasons. So, but this works, I wonder if there are other people out there who had one vert, one vision of cannabis at one time and then set way but baby. It's not what we

I told it is so because of that we talked to like older people who would never have used it or people from red states that think gets it the the ones we talked to thought it was against god's natural law and it was against their religion and the church and good people didn't use it and things like that pets. You would never give you get a pet high unless you're, you know goofing around china be funny and and not a lot of it has to see, but the c b, the aspect of it, I'm learning so much you know, obviously, is that international, it's not as I opening as booze traveller was, but it's it's really fulfilling, because I went through that door, many first, the cancer. Then they came on that. I was helped by it and we find so many people who are being helped by in their experience and how? How not only did a flip a light on when people came to them and said. I know you don't like marijuana cannabis. What I will call but I tried this and it works and peoples. I wait a minute. It's about this horrible thing that they said it was: I'm not lazy, I'm not going to do

Each vetoes on a couch fall asleep. Maybe something to this, and so would change the hearts and minds, hopefully not abbot, heading four in any way, but saying at least think for yourself. Mind you get educated because it was prohibited and nineteen thirty, Evan thanks to guide him harry J answering who are basically just wanted to prohibit something Alcohol. Just came off the list and thirty three and they came to him william randolph hearst who died. Hemp was a threat to his paper, males because your newspapers and gone william, randolph averts, aided mexicans, that's that Every masking. I ever always tells me that it was not only that it was absolutely against mexicans and and people of color races They wanted to jazz clubs and they were resting, jazz musicians and mexicans. They wanted to date. They came up with the term marijuana because it sounded.

Again and scary, and it was the marrow and a tax act, but instead of a j was it the an age marijuana wanna and in your right it was was for racial reasons and economic reasons, and basically they lie. To us about what it is and again I'm not saying it's the greatest thing in the world that gonna cure everything, but at least look at it for what it is not for what you're told it is, and that goes for anything religion, politics, anyhow. So this is what we are trying to do in the thankfully we're doing it anyway. But it's it's not on a network. It's on youtube, and with a little many segment just a few minutes each, but we start with a thirty minute: q and a live. So I do it like you're doing this. and then we showed a show, and then I have a an have you right after which shows above forty forty five minutes a content every week in its alma, you too, general and an facebook, and that that's called the high road with jack Maxwell and then

on Sunday. I do think jack's place. It is have a drink and talk to people now to do a tribute games, your cup Bela, but only on facebook and my youtube channel. For now, until you I get shows again on travel. Jama will laugh about you'd unfair I will tell you how come out: how can we not do injects places podcast, I'm doing it as a what do you call this? A visual pod gases on live every sunday night, eighty, eastern five pacific and like this and I they questions, Libya, ok, just you advance yeah games. Sometimes I have we bring him in and out depending and that we had a contests. So this veto, we sought to bring it on people that they one. The contest show they'll. Come on and have a drink with me, so it's really just a mishmash of things, whatever I'm thinking of it at the time who this has been an amazing podcast man. I feel I can give you an amazing host. No I'm a fucking by the way. Where do you see the notes in the comments like jack? You get upset but is only getting worse.

of these shut the fuck up for the first I had about himself. I am, I am I I think they're good progress from fascinated by people and you're, one of those guys that I've just been a fan of. The whole time you're on the network, and then I heard what you were going through and then running into and seeing how good you looked. I was like goddamn it man, it's always good. I think it's so important to hear those hero stories. You know about guys who get through dark places and get to the next place and still fight and cause, so many people get diagnosed with cancer and just go oh fuck. You know that your your story is important. You know Thank you in and I I feel the same way you were. You are always the one who led the way and I could never try to try to be you, but a lot of people followed your

example and maybe even ripped you off yeah, but I'm so happy that you're doing well. I know what you're saying about it: your white whale and your ahab and it's moby dick and maybe one day, you'll grab it by the tail and pull it onto your boat, But you don't really well, I mean you got a beautiful family and you ve really six as for the about these great specials, and and your lives stand up so you're not you're, not miss in anything. Congratulations to you, my man who congratulated you. What's the name of the show up more time on a type it in my browser and watch it tonight with a box, a wine on my treadmill. It's got the high road with jack Maxwell and it's always on youtube. My youtube channel and facebook, but we do it live Friday night. Eight thirty used in five thirty four the high road. I hope everyone goes and check it out. I hope to tell please tell ross that that I miss him

and I follow his sons. Geronium. Oh it's exciting, watching a southern succeed in this business. I well my man. Thank you. I gotta. Let me see if I got it on where the fuck is that my it out. I went in to me once and pulled up. So I gotta my thing and then I'm deftly wasn't it tonight. Men and I would I would love me, you know what gotta, be in arizona in phoenix. Where are you right now you Phoenix yes scottsdale right next door were phoenix right, I'm pulling up right. I gotcha doesn't matter when I'm there right now we got three hundred eighty five subscribers. I say ruined do me a favor go over click to subscribe button and start follow

when I know a lot of people smoke weed on that. Listen to his podcast, a lot of you. I think this is going to be a fascinating podcast for a lot of you. Your fascinating show so go on. Click subscribe on youtube can give a comment. Tell them that I smell like shit right but dogs when everyone Fourthly, that isn't true if it were be mixed, we're phoenix june nineteen I'm doing? I haven't announced it yet, but I'm stand apply but don t shirt. So neither do I I love to have you at the show. I would love to have you at the show. I doubt I'll reach out and I'll make sure I see a can I can we can grab a drink after with one hundred sam. I am ass, your badge and I got a lot of fans. No, no, no, it's it's a half capacity show It was right now cause of the cause right yeah. So it's it's going to be, and I'm not going to really like socialize much with the fans. I'm just kind of go in it'll, be my first time on

age in eighty ninety days, mom now I can't wait. I got up, I got super fucking excited text me shoot me a text I got. I think I got you in your office, your text, I'll, let you know and I'll give you the info and I'll hook you up with my tour manager, so you can come in when we grab a drink after the show. That'd be great but row a mission, I am glad to hear you doing. Well, I'm glad. Thank you for your kind words. I really appreciate it, of course, whether thank you so much for doing this and I'll be watching. You showed a night great, a sick, ass, his own, I'll. See you there I'll see a couple weeks died by by the this episode does