« The Bill Simmons Podcast

Brady vs. Belichick With Seth Wickersham, Plus Million-Dollar Picks With Peter Schrager

2021-10-01

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by ESPN’s Seth Wickersham to discuss his new book, ‘It's Better to Be Feared: The New England Patriots Dynasty and the Pursuit of Greatness.’ They also discuss the highly anticipated upcoming matchup between the Buccaneers and the Patriots in Foxborough, Massachusetts (1:55). Then Bill talks with NFL Network’s Peter Schrager to make their Million-Dollar Picks for NFL Week 4 (1:00:50).

Host: Bill Simmons

Guests: Seth Wickersham and Peter Schrager

Producer: Kyle Crichton

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projects Ipod, spats and setting out check rating a business tat. Now we really the whole season, we knew the record could possibly be broken, which is this his fascinating Rico. The NFL obviously looked at the schedule and said, hey very likely. He could break the touched at record their this crazy emotional game. I have friends sats wicker sham who wrote the book the definitive book but pages substitutes out this week. I have friends, I can't believe I'm not coming back for this. I'm gonna be why this game by myself in LA I don't wanna, be with everybody else. I dont know what my emotions are going to be.
a farm in a bet on it. I think all the paths fans have looked at this thing as This thing they knew as coming, but now it's close and they kind of dont know what to do with it. What is it like if your Brady, what is like your bowed check? What is like your craft? Let's go through the three Brady whatsoever for him. This week, I mean. I bet you did. Brady is resolutely focused and trying to be as unemotional as was possible, which means in anybody might suggested that yesterday, then, you know they'll probably end up doing like a big tribute to him. Video board and political, give him a hog and I'll do anything to like him, emotional inferred off his game a little, but I am so glad you brought this up. I think that's the I think that the move for the I think you really, You turn it into. You know like a cheer Tyrker exactly you try to re, make him like a non Roma, make him a human being exactly like
Peyton Manning went back Indianapolis as a Denver Bronco. They did that to him and if you go back and look at the report, he started crying in war ups, and so I try it that's the play with Brady. You know he expects a tough crowd. He expects to ignore him before the game with. I doubt that he will, but still he can handle all that, but if it says complete outpouring of words God damn it well and it will get about Jack granted a second reading, one of the interesting things about Brady over the years, and you talk about it in the book after the last Tennessee game. The way he handles the press conference, where he's he's like weirdly, uplifting your head this like how he usually was after losses, but both him and valor check have done such a good job. of presenting whatever that images that they want to present in public verses. What there actually like in private re Brady has been so good. That's why I thought time after time. Their facebook thing he did was the kind of mild age
think there's a moment's than there are like. Oh that's, actually, the Real Tom Brady, but he's been very careful of kind of keeping that Batman Superman cast a man. But I don't think he's gonna be able to keep it on without the pre gamester fighter. Human being is gonna, feel the emotion I don T kick him like that. I agree with you and I think that you are. He said at some point in the past year that ninety percent of what he says in a press conference is bullshit and it's not what is really thinking and I think, even with Tom versus time he let himself be existential in front of the cameras, but he still when other people kind of go there more for him. I mean you ve, seen our square or talk a little bit Tom Senor Torreon. bets his wife just a during tat time. She talked a little bit. Tom is kind of a master at letting his feelings there and then one is in front of a microphone. Maybe not
Why denying the kind of skirting around it just enough. So did you know it? It seems like you, ve got a little bit of a distance from it yeah. I'll tell you say this and you have this in the book in one of the reasons I love read, the book obviously lived at all time, but then, when you see somebody gotta laid out from beginning to end in you just think, like twenty eight It's a long, fuckin time, long forgotten when he gets drafted I was, I wasn't even areas ESPN, yet the first year that he took over from Bledsoe was the first year in writing for saying like that was the early internet, I'm on the page, two with Hunter Thompson and Ralph Wiley, and just to watch that above and now I have two kids. I've had five dogs, and you know he was still on the patriots at the end of the second decade, but I think the part one of my favorite stretches of the book is the deflategate. Art and I think that's the peace when people talk about guys come at home and I know Indianapolis love banning, obviously people, no, no,
love Brady, and you have these guys that are like year guys that a fake eight to another level with Brady with the in their it wasn't just Wasn'T- was our guy now guy now was under attack under attack, nowhere to defend our guy now other people far our guy was a cheater and that's what made that Superbowl season so great that Baltimore Home Game the Seattle Superbowl was. It was all like kind of kind of floating around. What just happened with the very great, and I shall be lobbying: should it because some people like how are they going to react to it? I think the fans are gonna, be a hundred per cent for Brady I'd be shocked. If there are any booze, I totally agree I mean especially because he wanted to remain a peach tree. I mean he made so clear over. his career that all he wanted to do was retire. Is a new one? Patriot robber craft made clear that he wanted Tom Brady to retired, renewing and patriots and rubber gap is also
clear that the one reason the timber is not doing. What Patria right now is because Bilbil attack sought it either was at the end or very, very close to it, and so- they kind of have to blame their head coach. I mean that's you yeah. This is at the end of the damage asked Tom Brady wanted more organs, No influence leaves never gonna get knowing what you wanted. You told your montana is, I cannot say they ask for my employer and I give it and then they ignore me and do their own thing, and you know he wanted to say in person How do you want to be more involved in Jane Planning Alex Career Maybe he was banned from the team plan and from further building by Bilbil, attractive Edith. He's a Superbowl rang. The bell rang, people will ring down temper all that said, I wrote a back to like after the Falcon Superbowl. If, if rafter that game, they had seen him to a five year contracts. So much upper mony is just a word. You know it.
Taking care of everything, but instead it was kind of a night off season into that. Doesnt, seven gipsies and where a lot of the discontent and and even though I use that word really came up and Bela check talked about this in the past about these plan. The odds right nobody's done this. You don't do this disposition pasture late, thirties history says it has to end watch, it rots Asperger down the stairs he looked like he was down last year. Brady never had a season Michael Erasmus programme last year, but the stores they look at it in their like what, one more year will see bout check which is never going to do that with Brady. He was. He was always playing the odds, the percentages, the mortality rates of a Kubi and was just like. I always have a backup Lanka's when this goes. This is gonna, go fast and they break you,
eighty another and go, and I want to place on forty five. I can do it and you re in retrospect. It seems crazy that baby and say here's a five year deal you'll, never play for another team here we go, but I cannot understand it from the path side. It was the little bit words like our. I will give you a five year due to do something nobody's ever achieve. I do think they'd, misunderstood kind of the house the advantages and how driven Brady was to do that. Don't you think I'm having a lot of the stuff in your book is like the cottages underestimated him here that you people who should have never underestimated him, invited primarily of your belgic decision, but it was also a robber craft sitting. Then he told people at the Superbowl when the chiefs played the forty Niners, that you know we want Tom, but not until these forty five and breeding abolish it always does these studies ready. He sends assisting coaches and executive security studies and heated studies about
You know the way the quarterback slip when they're in their thirties- and he did a study that I report about in the book where they interviewed Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant and Tiger Woods to try to define these characteristics that all these immortal athletes have and Brady was interviewed. Also and what's the other guys all of the motivations came from you know the chip on the shoulder the ruthlessness, and you know, sort of almost speaking and inventing stars where he was different. I mean he had some of that to him, but he always seem to thrive best when he was in an atmosphere. There was like his family's, which was kind of having the forty, and that was just always at odds with the ship. The pilgrimage agree- and I think that build deserves credit only is quite is called. This is a motion. Listen if people make it out to be, but you know it was not. It was not Bruce. Arians me pretty went from like Harvard loss for the forest state when you went down there, Ratan,
I think you are you lay out in the book. This is such a long relationship between these three people on it so unusual and it's so historic and it's so different and she will never happen again. Every night I don't either always nervous about saying this will never happen again with sports and then over every near surprise. I truly honestly think this will never and again, you'll never see a quarter back in a coach catch each other at the earliest. Ages and then an owner caught him in the early stages for him to and then This kind of all works out for two decades. So you see it all laid out year by year by year, a kind of becomes amazing that they stay together you know I ate is if anything like, probably the best thing for them was was to stay together was loose the Superbowl, no seven and then losing you twelve has doubts at you, gotta stick together. We have the best chance to win. If we have each but then, by the time they win that the next to even before the third one. That's where you can see it
I got. What I wanted from you, you got you out for me. You want to run this patriot way better directing over here and I economy, do my own thing and have my doubts. Guerrero and I were you know I wanna become one. personality, I want to have more of a say in the so all that makes sense, but it's just crazy to be that they dragged nineteen years out of EU right. This book. As your laying it out, or are you thinking like? Oh my god, how is this not over and like your nine? Exactly that's exactly what I was thinking and frankly, my favorite part of the book, the books divided into three parts and my favorite part, is far too because it goes that's the ten year drought. We were told at the highest level that you can find
oh out, but they were still coming up just short and they knew internally. We haven't done it, and these two men, demagogic and Tom Brady- were really digging within themselves to find that last percentage of a percentage point did they could improve. And that's me, you know, that's that's where a lot of the tea between stop was birth because Tom Brady, as it is a part of it, announced rare, shows up at his apartment and of it. What did I do and Tom is like on truly complicated to describe what he does. It turns out that his job is actually pretty easy. His job is to make Brady's goals come true into never tell him now, and then you had been I will check you I'll bet. He also had begged, though there is a witch doctor element to him in the early years where it's like we ve figured. some new new form of HIV Aids rumours flying around with this guy doing his changing Brady's blood? Nobody knew he dared nobody could understand. It was a little like the Ernie items of Hell,
for its part is that I do and in some ways people still think that you know one of the things I point down the book. Is it the tv twelve method came out, and you know that all these things that got marked in the water would help you prevent sunburns nor that stop and when they did an updated addition, they actually removed a lot of that stuff. They kind of took out a bunch of stuff that ours is driving a little bit more than Tom. going back to light that drought and if you look at bill, I'm a bill had to figure out a way to get his team back to the point. Numberless three superboss were by a combined total of nine points. They did not wind blow out. The Eagle Superbowl was kind of way. It was a dominating, you know game, but they only one by three points and so bill had to figure out a way to take these interests that they were losing and super balls and turn them into victories in. That's why I went really deep on the Baltimore formation. In the end, the Ravens pie, after a minute, if they don't have that play their down to touchdowns there,
since you are not scared them at all. If they lose that game and they get out from the plasma first round again I mean is Brady even back the next year they already had dropped low. You know ready in on the bench a lot of things changed when they went to that Baltimore formation, It's the second greatest home when of this aware that the stove as the number one heard we got. We call this now game ever. Ask us duck. Rogan still game is one, but the Baltimore game is to end is such a roller coaster ride. I think it's in the running fur most entertaining pure football and there they were more entertaining games again. Lana Super bones: the fight that the ABC title gaming- it's the court's therein- but those were always iconic- train wreck rolex- There is right, the Chiefs Game or the chiefs come back at the affords upsides. The eagle superboss those games are entertaining but like unconventional entertained. The Ravens Pats game is just like an awesome football game where the ravens are better.
And they kind of out thank them and then the crowd takes over in the end and it's a highly and bright, and nobody really new have previously had magic, and we now know that they were down fourteenth and got right. Can you give them the trail to get embrace drives them down the field that perfect pass on the fatal out for touchdown, and you know he was pretty fired a brig output in the eye and came in trail search for talking to each other and after that game. John harbours just live in remember built. Our Czech ran the no huddle and used the Baltimore formation and the ravens formation. Knowing the John Harbour was gonna lose his cruel. He knew the John Harbour had a temper. They couldn't controlling. He set his trap for him, and one of the things I get you in the book is just how he wreck certain coaches.
Marge MIKE Shanahan, what the intentional safety and John Harbour, he knew. The John Harbour with flip a lid and eventually got a fifteen, are handled in that James Ryan. he was so upset about this and then wait for me. By saying that it is they that they may dead, where they were declaring analogy. receivers on the line but off the line, so the ravens were were basically defending these guys who couldn't move but then the vehicles that were often sublime and are moving off. Delighted harbour like hazard, a almost as aneurysm when the said but said he I let the play was originally called fight song. It was invented by laying chiefly you see and he called it fight songs you like when we run up we're gonna wit, we're gonna score touchdown, swept away after the game John Harvest just to see, if you like, the rest, let em off the hook. You feel like they got intimidated by Bilbil jacket and didn't give the ravens time to set up like there are supposed to, and of Course Tom who never talks trash, never resetting, not a very
trust upper right needed in practice. You know says: maybe those guys are learned. The rules and John Harbour ends of getting an apology from Bilbil check because of that friends of John Harbaugh around the league, we're just so pissed. The braided did that in obviously be software that lead. Where that better. You know occult getting a little defensive in a little frustrated about to flee, Jake and jumping off the rats right. Yet I will get that makes that the Ravens came Lisbon. more than half way gate room. But the though that thing that has happened in that year was manning and add that resurgence with Denver and the main. Brady thing which you now had been kind of. A sea saw area brady- was our guy. He was Bill Russell. And manning was the more talent the guy you know, who's the number and pig he had all the is TAT, the whole thing and he was well Chamberlain and it and we were
SK. We re living Russell over Chamberlain. Words like you can have all these you, the better. I fancy, but our guy wins the big games and that's what we do and then Manning flips it, and then we don't want Superboss for fears, meaning goes to Denver. He breaks, Brady's, touchdown wreck He gets another one before you now and then he's kind of flipped and now he's the best, and I think all of us were just like, maybe Brady's guy We gotta get this back and then all of a sudden within three years, it's a complete flip, there's like no doubt left only Paden break. had a hall of Fame career in the Times and Peyton Manning retired name, and like I go deep into their relationship. Between Brady Intervene in July, and there is just one moment that was in two thousand and fifteen They were all they all just happened to be at Augusta National, the same weaker though thing anyway decided get up early and they pay sneak through it.
Start because their wearing shorts and are not allowed to wear shorts. They sneak through Augusta to the gym Try to get an early morning, work out in their Rory Mcelroy, Tom Brady in Rory is like. Oh, my god, like how many Superbowl envy cheese and legally Peter in this little teeny Jim, that nobody, He says he's like. I gotta get out of here, so he leaves and then for the next forty minutes, it's Tom, Brady, paid, marrying and new. I manning all this. Continued little Jim working in the Mannings, in order for their regiment, is completely different than Brady's gracious workin out with rubber band and doing stretches in very tb. Twelve stuff in the maidens were kind of watching him, like you know, trying to steal for tests on you for that time. They do. You know a thing about those guys are all friends, but it was all business. They barely said anything to each other. For those forty five minutes, then Brady laughed and I'll see you guys on the course.
While there is definitely some friend whom Stamford Manning Ambrady, especially the first ten twelve years, and that there is any question that I owe you got here, not hanging out athletes taken. You know he loves you ve seen it in the end, the money I forgot broadcast, he loves to try to light tweak the patriots for real or perceived cheating anytime. You can, then that's you know. That's another thing that I had jumped at me in the book was all these different kind of aggrieved. People better alone. The highway of this pages journey for make parts is probably still mad about. This right now is probably arguing with the Starbucks poorest of that. The patriots tape. This practice she now Did they take it? I don't know. I just think I think that set out be submitted for the Pats, as often as I can. In that case, total sour grapes by megabytes like Belgic, used all the stuff
against my farts, like he knew my farts was going to want to like basically both cock out and swing it for three hours in the super bowl and be like big offensive genius by bar about Belichick, just flipped that item and they never adjusted and by the time they just in the fourth quarter. That's when they started moving. The ball is too late. You know each he bowed. It's always able to use things against the people like their king. His heels in a weird way and at TAT came up over and over again the book, yet that Karl roasting turning strengthening the weaknesses. But what are they wanted? The anecdote like that I was told I loved it. Is it to spy gate happens and he had the brakes on a Sunday and Russia. The Dell is trying to figure out what this is all about in the coming next coming days and he calls all these had. Coaches and general managers round the ETA fell in there just burying bill. If, like the height of their places, you know he's a cheater everything he does his dirty, you gotta give them every year, suspend in all this
Tough and detail calls might Shanahan who at the time was quite the genius the bill at the level was, but you still one of the better. You know smarter, had coaches round the FAO and a good friend of bills because mighty musical, what's going on here when you think about this in MIKE, says Roger. I wish I had thought to do that myself, like I'm mad at myself, deals out there the bill thought of it before I did, and I would have done it without even linking because there's no punishment for nobody had ever been busted for teaching signals. So why not push the envelope? Why not do it? And he said you cannot say that Bilbil attacks a bad guy. He should better out of that everybody else, and I just bought that, as you know, in the context of tony dungeon, all these other guys,
who really took the opportunity to pylon bill. It was a two time super bowl winner who came out and he was like Rodger I'm jealous. I didn't think of it, myself pull and was the worst. He was doing that bothered me. The most is just sour grapes. Big pass like beat the hell out of every Sievers, though the entire games- I baby, oh for now, when you push for the big real changes. I wanna keep talking about balance. But we had break out twenty years on the same sideline tolerating Bilbil logic meet this weekend as opponents, the goat Q Beavers, the goat head coach. You can be part of the epic showdown humbly blood's on fan dual spy. Agreed that new customers can win. One hundred and twenty five dollars on a five dollars bet if either team scores a touchdown. That's right, twenty five to one odds on any touchdown anytime. During the Tampa New England I am still saudi. My feelings out emotionally about this game, but it seems like the plays
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Eight hundred two hundred and seventy seven thousand one hundred and seventeen Tennessee one hundred and eighty nine, nine thousand seven hundred and eighty nine West Virginia Uganda NET in Arizona eight hundred next up I'll come back. I asked you at the top the three people- heading it through the sun. In a game we talked about Brady and what, with circle back on them again, Bela check cyber theory. I dont know if I'm right I swear this is this is a hot take more than a take on that standing by the take? There was just something that crossed my mind. Last Sunday, there loosen the saints it's one of the dumbest. Game plans. The patriots have had for a game for the entire time I've been reared, endured. The belgic air like completely inexplicable play, calling this kind of weird it's the weird game and an it afterwards? It was so strange afterwards and thinking like it's almost like they want to win this camp, a game so bad. Wanna show anything in historians gaped now the other option is we just can't black,
and that of our running back can pick up. The boots is, which is probably the most likely outcome, but I dont think its inconceivable that their saving, I just don't think bowed check- wants to lose this game. I think he's a hundred times more competitive than anybody realises unmerited, always the best football coach about them? I think the Superbowl Brady she really bothers. Then I think- has a way better sense of his place in history, which you hit the book a lot like. She really does care about this stuff. He thinks about it. He does documentaries and let two people write books about him and he cares. And I don't think he wants to roll over in this Tampa game game and have a bee. Brady throws five touchdowns breaks the record and gets cheered. I think he's going all out in this game. So what do you think walking in the Sunday? What do you expect from him in the emotions? Everything would expect
I think you're right I mean I dont know if he treated last week's steam like a virtual preceding game, but he's definitely done that in the past, where he's taken formations are plays and he can them at one point during the season. Any just saves them. Yes, if you liked one of his genius, one of the pieces of about genius is the ability to not panic and to let forgot situations play out and I think the The clearest moment of that was, you know he had refused to sideline and he notices that the clocks running, but the sea answer confused and all the creatures right in the Superbowl against Seahawks. Aren't you gonna call time out you signal and I got it, I'm not going to end. That said, you know a lot of the people that he spent a lot of money on this off season were dropping a lot of passes. The offence has no rhythm at all and is staring anybody, and so maybe defensively he'll have some breaker
Nobody knows Tom Brady better than that guy, but I think here rather yachting would rather going that game through in one that one too, I'm I'm saying I'm not saying like they threw at a gamer true that caprices game. I just thought it was pretty vanilla. It was Agnes deliriously, vanilla, like they were like. Let's try to win this game. We think we can win this by cutter, establishing the run that donated to cry
easy. When really like the more I watched him, I watched every play for our three games, like the can't really black MAX bearer Shaka with the receiver spread out, and they should cottages play up tempo and their afraid to do that, and I feel like that's what can happen as bucks came out an author to win, but I think he unleashes back in this game. Defensively, like they do say, was a late scratch that was mysterious to me of a psycho recycled. Let's just let's get him healthy for the bucks came. I think they're treat this box. Caper gets play a game. I really do remain since you know January twenty, twenty of the closest thing they kind of after one of those people, What do I it's about jack? We know it's gonna happen. Hill. The hope probably avoid time before the game than there'll be the big handshake. After, though, that five a handshake, do you think he likes Tom Brady yeah? I do I gotta do so. I
I am not so sure that he'll do that. I will surprise me if he tries to get tomahawk before the game so you where's your predicted the premium hug. That's like one hundred and eighty on Fanduel and putting up a wood, and I think, there's also at the at the end of the game. They might just do one of these kind of like how we did with Josh Mcdaniels like years ago in the gals, with Denver there like didn't, want to make a big deal out of the handshake, but you know that said I think they know they're going to get in Brady space like the one thing bill does better than everybody better than anybody ever has he distrusts the passing game, and I mean some reason: teams are just scared of Tom Brady. I mean I understand why they're scared of them, obviously, but they they don't challenge the receivers Elitha Playzone and they let him throw the short ball and get the ball out quick and that's what he will do
they law and bill is not going to. Let him do that and tape a camera. They run the bar thou checks user good. If the EU is going off, and second do one thing when at the other thing I'm sure you learn some tricks with over the last twenty years that he kind of filed away in a said, move man? It's gonna come down again the patriots black, the bugs four and seven, but with the bow check thing disease YE talk about part of the book about how he was always out of the curve, whereas stuff, like oh everybody, doing a afore three I'll do with three four and things like that were like the actual free aging inefficiency for signing people there. Just more of these as available because everyone's using a fourth
there's more lie backers to be had bisque, but then, as the legal, smarter, advance, elitist command, and things like that, you start your edges start eroding. You talked about this that second stretched the book as a reinventing himself. What were the edges that he found after those first three superbowl than that? Like? Oh ninety, two thousand fifteen stretch. Well, I think the most obvious one noon I talked about. This was the draft. When you drafted drunken Hernandez media, look all you realize you couldn't be judge. You know that the judge it beaten and soundly at home in the play off any need to do something different spreading. To think about that were the patriots relate, we gotta figure out a way to get past the jets, but he knew how did needed to do something different, and so he died. He did what he always does is he adopted, and then I think that after he adapted and still they were coming
short. I think that he realised that they had to have an element of surprise, and I think that's for that that play him, and you know the Baltimore Ravens Funky play, came and came into effect, where, even after everything that he had done all the hours that you devoted to this entire life, to the detriment of maybe his happiness to a certain extent, there still down fourteen against the Ravens, and he says go with Baltimore and that really reignited the entire dynasty. Do you think these guys ever hung out didn't ever had dinner with any sort of relationship other than just the football that, because you talked about you know apart people forget early in the Brady experience was when Dick the grapevine dead and a balanced text. The coach to that point is this: I am in a coach, the quarterbacks. I got this so he exactly spending At a time with Brady and in it she slowly realized like oh disguise, skies different someone, you know he's
and then the next year Brady's the backup quarterback than have competition for him. But but do you think they had like a real relationship or was it strictly coach quarterback Well, I was both something clearly. They knew that they were linked in a way, and I think there is a lot of love there was there always like I'm, not so sure I mean I think today. I hope these guys say I loved Bilbil Jack, never downgrading. I think they meant it
this guy's got on each other's nerves, and you know I think that you mentioned earlier, like you know who wears the acrimony coming from now. I think it's coming from Tom side more than Bill bill has been humble. You didn't think that Brady could do it anymore, because anyone to supermarkets. I think that radio and Brady's people are more, and you know angry at the way. The things ended in the fact that in August, twenty nineteen Brady almost had to leave it almost left training camp in protest. He was yellow new thoughts about how the contract negotiations for going, and so I think the edges a little more on the brain aside right now. Yes, I tell people has asked that whose bar spots about which is stupid to me. It's like they were two parents of this awesome kid that was the sixth super bowl title can't write and you can't save mom was more important than dad in this stuff like they are both are with that said, striker told me, Matt Cassel had to take on the
if that were today about Brady one hour, bow check when the first or Superboss Brady when the next three, which I certainly agree with, but I kind of like the attackers is that further, They were a little more ballot, Jackie from how he put the team together thing. You know in how ahead of the curve they were the coaching staff that he picked out these things and then Brady Base. D. You know he wins the Seattle game when it's in the darkest moments by himself, the Atlanta game he wins out by himself to fill again. They have no defence. I do think about Jack was probably a little more responsible for the Ramsgate, but it's a fun one to think of You don't superhero by Superbowl, but I just feel like they were about the parents of this thing, young, which Let me now I love fear, but I think that like number one, the First Rams game you're pretty didn't play that way. He turned it on at the you made any reserve for half time and then he exerted on you know at the end and then You know the Seattle game, I mean it
that that nickel defence, they had never called all your long and milk butler butter going into making that play a media can say the bill had nothing to do with that, and then the final Superbowl were they played the ransom in the patriots. Only put up thirty points any right. You just exposed your daughter, frankly, I don't think he and are nothing short of day ever really recovered from attack a green carbon isotopes known to be. That was Peter State that was ass was taken our yea back ass. If so ass, I got talent thing yet it with the bow jack thing. Look I'll just be honest. Gazette I've seen you have a lot of patience, hence my life, where our kind of look at each other, at least a little bit like fizzy. Does you still have it? You know, did the spending splurge last year
mostly like that it I thought they were paid for Hunter Henry. I didn't understand that Jalen Mills thing at all Johnny way. I like Johnny, was terrible. Last week spent had said traffic, some really good draft picks, but it's like. He had rebuild the offence of line and then you watch the offence of mine this year and they can't blocking you think like are it so all these great assistance he sat beers and allow them get poach. Nor What about this? For the ringer? She would a great piece about the curse of being. A great coach are great thing is you have all these people on your tree and then people start grabbing the people from the tree and lot like Brian Flores, I think, is excellent, but guess what he would have been awesome to have. Are the Patriots coaching staff that he was kind of overqualified? So at some point, is that, like it's just that finishing returns. How many times can you do it not only with like just come here, but do innovations, but also just finding people for your inner circle and that's what worries me is.
man. How long can somebody do this? I'm totally with you, and I I think, that's what makes it so interesting to me about both radiant and bill with it first different, as they are personality wise. They share this trade where they believe in the promise of the next play or the next season or the next game more than anybody who's ever played. I mean those guys can flush, what's happened and focus on what's in front of them better than anybody ever and they just refuse to concede an inch if anybody else's idea of the inevitable- and that's you see it with Tom wanting to play until forty five and maybe beyond, and I think you really see it with bill when he drafted MAC Jones, because what he was looking for their, I think, was something inherently sweeting and that's a chance to have continued success in the NFL and that's why that that's where that chick? You know, I think it wasn't just for need. I think it it just. It's
lies something and that's that, like he knows, this is a quarter backs game. You won the lottery with Tom Brady. He developed a super bowl calibre caliber, replace vintage Jimmy corrupt below, and he knew that he had to figure out a way to do it again. Even now, at age, sixty nine years or so you, you report this race the time at in Bolivia, dead. You then I eventually because you're right, he wrote about this in your book too, that the garage thing is this interesting cattle. Fischer for this three headed relationship that it works so well grab law becomes. You know that these are the three people working at the restaurant. Grab law, becomes the young blonde hostesses troop closer them up, and it so funny like when that will make a butler has interception and Brady celebrating Grab LE comes over here.
with celebrate grapple merely he's is threatened by an all time inside, even like you start by corrupt blow. He threatened by the knowledge that bout check is Ruth this imbalance, I've always get rid of you, you're too early, is not, could be loyal to you and he's develop in the next I and this shadow of corrupt below really Brother Brady and at some point craft, had to do something and graph cider craft sided with Brady in that moment Is there anything in the book? That's different from what you had already reported on. He has been I mean I know the answer budgets for the winners here having craft denied. You know that he pushed the hour. I was the only one who reported the craft pushed the trade on deal and new craft United, so obvious.
that denials in there, but you know I think, that's what you're talking about his right, the free he like Jimmy as a human. He hated the idea of Jimmy, and you know when pelagic drafted Jimmy he was so what we all know what times each in his salary are and Tom you talk about. The relationship between these are two phenomenal football lines: what not but the very confrontational on a football field when they need to be with their teammates or their players together, not exactly the most confrontational people once on a time was always curious. What bill said about him in popular number for the longest time, praise entire career, Belgic, wouldn't say he was the greatest quarterback ever he would say: there's no quarterback I'd rather have then Tom Brady, which he can
to be on a quiver go praise, but he also said explicitly that two thousand sixteen season where Brady was suspended for four dames embrace happens phenomenal season. I think you're too interceptions all season in my twenty touchdowns in twelve games politics, as you know, we ve seen the you if we can make the transition to corrupt low in its really seamless seamless, I mean that's a phenomenal word when you're talking about Tom Brady such a funny. Railway yeah really were sake boats, it's kind of a deck like that's in your book to back, he kind of he's really blood is sometimes awkward and
Is that really that kind of pouring water and the plant basically with relationships- and you know I think that's what Robert Craft comes in- where he's just trying to keep the band together as long as you possibly can in he understands Bela checks, brilliance and he understood what he had in Tom Brady and obviously, when craft it's in the hall of Fame. This is probably gonna be a huge reason. Why is because he was able to hold this thing together, but it was the managerial challenges and in two thousand eighteen, obviously, that everyone's a little raw coming off the Eagles Lawson Superbowl coming off the priests of previous years and where there is a lot of fun, You mean my way when we lost the Superbowl. Whenever pointed that, out of people, s lives,
dollar raw debris, rafter the game at the first meeting back in the facility brace telling the coaches I'm not coming back and aren't you escapes the off season programme at least a voluntary part of it and in September craft is in aspen for a conference, and he runs into some friends in the hotel lobby says you know I really hate leaving here. These are the most brilliant minds in the world and I gotta go to Detroit to be with the biggest fucking asshole in my head approach and Frank I think that we can be proud of that yeah, we'll everyone said Bell check. What's he got, the new girlfriend was actually like overall, a little like nice Everybody liked a scandal in the two thousand tense, like but I don't got a lucid up, but it certainly doesn't sound like for many the anecdotes I have one last ambrady them where you take a break, and I once again by craft is, I think craft is the underrated pieces, something with the point of view
he's career that he's at now, and I don't know if you're, if you're in town, some of the people, you talk to me now since the book. The way it's been described to me, he almost sounds like an alien where he's like he's won so much now that it's he's only obsessed with the process, the actual winning piece of it. Doesn't it it's kind of like just an outcome and yeah. He was obviously loved. One of everybody does but he's so driven at this point that that's kind of all. He sees it's not even about like the guy from the first super bowl who's like holding his head I can't believe they won the super bowl that guy's gone, and it's like super bar bust every year. He expects to win the Superbowl and the joy of winning the super bowl is probably one tenth of how mad he would be if you did win the Superbowl and he's just moved to this different stage. Kind of mentally psychological he's in complete control of that team, neon
piece of it, and I don't know what have you heard about that stuff here I write about only there's a reason why I built the book not around the super walls, but about but around the character evolution of these two guys- and I mean you, talk about radiant you're, two thousand one. Two thousand too I mean he wanted to dominate the world. I mean he was struggling with the adjustments to fame and all these things, but he is always had his eyes answer stratosphere that most people wouldn't even really consider- and you look at him now and he can at once be you know the most friendly cool guy in the world and also kind of detached. At times I mean you just comes out with his Brady brain of clothing, and you know I am a little bit worried to see how much that sweatshirt that he was wearing a can of course, do not read. Lunacy between products are very expensive, and it's not that. I think that is a snub or anything like that. I think
by you just keeps you keep rising until you're at a certain point, where you're like a member of the global lead where human longevity is like human destiny and he's only fell back to his he's gotta graduated from us humans yeah. I think the guy in the two thousand, the guy who lived in Boston at this, is actually my favorite part of your book, because I knew I beside new alot of this two thousand there, but the part of this whole journey that I think it's glossed over now is this catches, coming, a super duper star during the second and Third Superboss, and you know it happened in Boston. It happened locally and I will I was even their their first shareware you become the big local guy and it's a small town. Ever but he does everybody. Everybody knows where everybody is in you now pretty soon. Within a couple years he had to go to New York events ago.
Kind of have fun without having a hundred people come up to him or whatever cuz. That's what bought that the great thing about Boston but Bio. Three hundred and four now he's moving into this different Strasburg, but was cool in the book and they're reporting and talk to so many people like he was very aware of it, like I'm that my last ever going to be the same. It's every two same for my parents like this. Is this isn't like life altering? This is like my life is actually going to, plainly different, and there is no going back now- lay using people are aware, like that, as its happening absolutely at me, he was experiencing american fame like it arrives, which, as you know, time to stop and pausing to figure things out, you're, just a kind in the wind and a one point. He calls his old counselor.
Michigan, Greg, Pardon and he's whining about. I can't do this. I can't do that. I can't go to the grocery store. I can't people watch, I can't be anonymous and Greg starts laughing at him and he is like. I stop whining you one the best, but you don't want to have the ability that you have right now to impact of kids life by calling him, in speaking to him for five minutes and in impacting him for the rest of his life, and he looked on through the heart. Took you right now enjoy it because you're not gonna, be the hot tricky forever. It turns out tat, hot turkey for twenty years now right. Well, then, the ACL would have been the other speed bump right, yeah blows at the ACL, then at sight. By the time he comes back first by the Euro, eleven via without em. That starts o O. what's going on here, still eleven five without Brady HA and then they come back
He never really is at the same level for next copier statistically was, but the team wasn't but then figured it out, I'm at the Rick. I really want to talk about Bob Craft, hey my favorite. I'm scared company has bigness simply just launched their new wireless out. There's cared a camera tat. The system that This is what report name Best Tom scared systems of two thousand twenty one. Somehow just got him better The brand new wireless outdoors cured camera engineer law. The man's tackled security features you need. It needs help, keep you in your family, safe we're talking all tried hundred forty refilled, a view we're talking, hd resolution
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Kind of gets off on skate been a lot of ways that your book, but just in general during the era, I will never a hundred percent, forgive him for selling Brady out there in Deflategate. It's a is always really bothered me that he seemed like he took the easy way out you read about in the book. I think craft quickly realized that he made a mistake and in areas kind of sea the misled bogged down in some ways about it about. If he did this will this but in that it didn't happen, and you know it actually did nothing and I think in Massachusetts it that did not go over great, but general, really smart guy figured out a way to buy the team leverage Hartford keep the team clash with parcels which you cover and the Boolooroo and then ends up learning from bow check even there in that last biologic season, when his their realises Bela check is the guy that he needs to take back just about
acquiring is one of the great owner moments in the history of the week. I think I'll be and then is smart enough to kind of take a step back a little bit led this play out its it he's, not meddling too much knows ballot check, Brady, heirs, male tickets and he's got a great life right. This is because this new state him he's overseen this dynasty. He gets a lot of credit for it, not spending quite as much money may be as he could of year. By year I mean, I think he really was a profitable enterprise for for a long time, but then, once we get to the two thousand, in sixteen range. Now we need somebody now now you can't be legit
bob you as they have to start navigating this cause. This relationship started yet more complicated. Do you think he did a good job doing that from two thousand fourteen up I mean, I think, generally, he did in Europe just going back. I think that the trade for dollar check is the greatest written on it felt. History are not sure that there is a better one on your that sad when both at first arrives, the building wasn't exactly one towards him. I write about that alot, where you know people are wondering how much actual authority he had. One point. You know the crushing staff needed a printer in and they couldn't get a printer for like weeks in their like how much authorities risk I haven't beginning get us a printer but having craft his interest because he he's the eggs. Often when you expect him to that, making two thousand and seven and the severe negotiations Myra is on her death bed he's involved in these negotiations, and there is a contentious moment at the table where they were talking about fewer acid,
the practices and in John Mirror of the giant, says Yedo owners, coaches and gene therapy chest. I dont we're not don't you visit. This is never gonna fly and Robert stops him, and he says you know. Who cares if you know who cares if coaches and genes are pistol, get over we're not going to kill the deal over this thing and the players really appreciated that because he had taken their site on such a key issue that they believe that he was really trying to get a deal done now. You look at the later years made by craft change. Quite a bit. You know bill kind of always remained the same kind of oranges, darkness in a way that neither craft nor Brady ever did but it'll craft change. He wasn't the guy you kind of like a salesman, no, he was wearing. His therefore wants a news he's going around with Michael Reuben and
things change for him a little bit, and then you get to two thousand seventeen, where he's realizing that there are some severe. You know cracks in the sound nation and you'll be struck by the coaches offices in use in a faint has, should have you had to get caught some time and kind of making very clear that there are limits should be with him. Yet not no Bela check, not necessarily billboard and you know, he's just trying to navigate these incredibly maniacal, driven guys who, at that point in time, were really not getting along in any way outside of warnings about it, and I think by and large he did a masterful job Maybe he should have a rule bill and in August of twenty nineteen and said here Tom, what do you want? You want a three year contract to your contract, for whatever you got it bill, I'm sorry, you got to deal with it, but he didn't and we saw what happened. He probably should have wood. That said, Brady's last two,
treaties and there was sign of age and attrition right, I think the way he's look there in this box he's right out. The best is looked in four years, and you know I I can understand why they put the percentages. I think craft had been so good from learning from the parcels experience where he you know metal took part. That's the point that person has left trademarks, leaving that he was so careful not to Morrow about Jack and also how to Morrow at the best coach about time, but he should a metal In this case, they should have been one reads like a bill which give the due to five year, deal we confront loaded, maybe it's like if he s three years instead of five, and we have to get out of it. We can push the rest of the money like there's salary She made against, we can pull but which is take care. This, I really genuinely think bow check was like ready to hand the torch from breaking the Gibby, like the more we learn about this stuff, like you're really seem like Jimmy was, is, and I think I was surprised,
didn't trade form this spring and maybe they would have it didn't get back there? I think they're kind of wondering if he was gonna be available if they had drafted. Mac think they would have been wondering if you would have been available up to you know. The first came in the season, red yeah, you're right and you know craft used to say now. You tell people that building quite shown the respect that he deserved and he would say no building idiots about. I gave him this opportunity and he started it. You know talked Nick Hysteria, who is that the top personnel executive behind Bill in New England about their mood because bill wouldn't tell Rob he hasn't guns neck, didn't have the answers because
wouldn't tell Nicky's, though it's just became kind about. You know, aside load dynamic craft, so you know the need that he had to. I don't have craft of a really. You know the guy on the team. Did Snyder battles he's the one who comes off the yacht in walks into the draft room and tells him good are picking during the first round. After all, this work they turn craft ever does anything like that, but I think that No craft had them, maybe maybe he was doing a little and secure. I dont know, but you know he felt like he needed to make sure that people in the building understood that he owned the team and that their long term loyalties maybe should be focused on him and not just now. I wonder like he's in his mid seventies, at this point and Jonathan, running. More and more of the team. Late seven days went by the lad seventeen. How old is he at that point? O leaks over these years late set late, seventies, Jonathan
You seem a little bit more, it's possible, like he's at a different stage of his career, you know, and maybe maybe the craft from two thousand five would a navigated a little bit different. I I think craft, I mean saved the patriots in masse. She said cinemas be grateful tat, but I used to think a little weird, though, has for years is the cradle of everything. He's gonna walk. He was wondering what are you gonna do to get in there the same. I mean he saved the team. He created your help, create this dynasty. He held it together. He negotiated all of these CBS and tv deals that may rich men richer, and he has asked people is that voters for the Hall of Fame. Like you know, what's the appeal Jerry Jones could he seems to be asking you know? What's the guy done that I haven't done, because you know
eighty years old now easy on the Hall of fame. You know, I think that the main reason is not in the hall of Fame is because a palm beach and the voters need some distance for that. But you know he should, if I'm not sure what makes a great honour and I'm not sure what makes a great hall of Fame owner, but by the standards that they ve sat with Voluntary Eduardo, ensure Jones Robber, Crafty be holler famer next year. We think, like you, the word ruthless to describe, describe three guys, guys different difference. You know, Brady was ruthless and just like he will do whatever it takes to become the best quarterback about them. That's all I care about you and being an awesome, teammate and just the concept of team that every decision he made every day was based on the sixteen plaid, the sixteen regular season games in the three to four laugh dams and that that drove what he did on a Tuesday in April. If his way
at five hundred and thirty the morning of carrot, juice and then throw throw balls to like some trainer for an hour like he's just every day. Three hundred and sixty five Belichick is ruthless about the construction of a team and never being loyal to anybody. He has no loyalty he over and over again dump these dudes a year to early and they still kind of like come in and in some cases it's like this sopranos like they know it's coming. You know, I think, part of it's like I normally get whacked and then you have craft, Who is one of the most ruthless businessmen? We are successful ruthless businessmen we ve seen in football, where over and over again he's figure had a leverage, the franchise in a league for as much money as possible. I forget would equally by the team, for it is that it was less than two hundred billion right, less money that is spent on guaranteed money in free agency this past year? Right and it was like, you got the stadium lucky, it was crazy, good deal and then he
You don't want to go to Hartford. He would have gone their health gunpoint basically does that he's boat? That team is like one of the five biggest assets. We haven't questions as well. What happens when Brady lives while they're fine? This is gonna, be the biggest regular seas, ball game. We've had in a couple years back Johnson stood there and he should be in the hall of Fame, but I do think he's a ruthless guy and I think, there's a lot of people over the last twenty five years. instead. You know, I don't know if everyone speaking kindly among parcels still mad about what that with craft others. Those years later that Battlecraft Wilma go to bill. Parcells thing is one of the weirdest media stories last thirty years, so it's a bring it back to the original question. So, what's craft going to be like there in this whole thing has been today, probably pretty bonds from start to finish? That's what I would guess I mean he'll, never admit it, but he'll think number twelve should have
nor uniform, yet it you know, I kind of like the patriots are going away, and I don't know why. But my head tells me that gonna, win and then you'd say we would have one that if we had had twelve, our side, it wouldn't have even been close Cassim. They honestly felt like Brady was kind of like the though the sunny didn't have. Even though we had both for science, you I mean he was kind of like weirdly, a member of a stained with avian lived. You talk by this book when Brady goes too far I'm not gonna, I'm not coming back. He goes to his house, but their houses are what like three minutes from each other. You have declined. Maybe he s an. They clearly spend time off the field which belch acted, do with either them. So I do think there was some two on one stuff with those guys against bout check, and maybe that plays a part of it with the Jimmy thing. I'm dead, the bigger the big take away from me
your back to me, was just like man? I can't believe this lasted the sun there just so many ways. This should have not gone nineteen years than you think. Brady is now a year twenty one. What's your best guess: thou for him. What what age is it even guess about but give me he's gonna play too is fifty. If you told me that five years ago, had been like your fucking on drugs? What are you talking about? There's no way It is doing that and now I'm kind of like a fifty. Ah there. What do you think? I think it's forty five. I think he doesn't know, but I do think that its forty five and I think that one of the things I write about is the right. One of the costs of his greatness is just the you have to be selfish, to be a great asset.
And he's a great athlete. You know many times more than the greatest athletes in terms of his dedication and how much he thinks about this and he's talked about this publicly. Did it where's on his family? The fact that he is always thinking about the fact that there is no off season at Alice Guerrero was on vacation with a bit risk Where's come out to education in Montana, whether there to run rounds. He truly cannot live without this is he said, the sickness in him that makes them want to throw a spiral, and you know his family has felt that, and I do think that there is gonna, be you know, a critical point and I think it probably forty five me you won the Superbowl. The very first thing to sell said to him: was you know nothing?
right and he's like I'm going to change the subject right I did. That was probably the one that's been pushing him to quit, at least for five years now, yeah, something like that. Certainly, she must have thought if he wins in Tampa that'll, be it nope, and now it just seems like he's he's not. It really seems like I've talked about this before I'm Ipod, like this soup, the weird Simolaris with him and Tom Cruise or some of the stuff for it really seems like he feels like he's achieving like this fire being that now he wants to spread the wealth of these things. He's found two
other people like he had that crazy stuff about what it was like. I can't get a concussion. Where was the real thing about concussion maintenance? So you don't get concussions and just things that are like as a kind of crazy is bookies. You know he basically said this book is the tools to not getting injured in football, and if you get injured it's your phone, I remember how often quarterback once wrote you he was so what? If I get a concussion, it's my fault: I mean. He took a big hit last week in the Rams game, like a really big one way. He kind of totally didn't see the guy hit him and he got crunched on both sides and went down and got up and I'm like you know older than I am obviously but rule forty two forty three forty four was, I just felt like physically your body starts to change, starts to sort out of singly. How many times is he gonna get up from that? He still
Forty four, you can put all the shit in his body and he could eat almonds and drink carrot, juice and whatever else is doing, but at some point you're, forty four and your vertebrae is taken. You know x, amount of whatever's in there's some point you're not getting up from that. But now I don't know what to believe So you think the patriots lose. I think the picture taken away- and I mean you, Is it the patriots are gonna win on Sunday? That's what my heart says my mind thinks that they're gonna lose, but you know I just have a weird feeling. I don't know what I also have the weird feeling I'm about to do million dollar pixel with and everybody is gonna put the chiefs in the box and tease,
Annabel Tom Brady, the pay it plus two pats look bad last week in a lack the passive, but in this spot plenty of times over the last twenty plus years ago about check would like their seven point, underdogs at home. I would just be careful. I would advise ever to be careful. I can't wait to watch set good luck with the book. What are people saying or people being nice, a Boston lobbying pretty nice, and I gave up I'm doing a lot of us and stuff and I really on you know, appreciate the support out there and appreciated your friendship and the fact you gave it an early reading gave me some good notes, and I appreciate it very very much it illustrates. How can you man, Best of luck with books say the title again cause it's better to hear you yeah. I check that out, set congrats at everything. Thank you. thanks, but this absurd specimens pack ass his bread by Miller Light. Sometimes you want to hang out, but you don't wanna go out. Does that sound familiar?
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crafting together this mastermind defensive game plan and handed it lay and somehow commentary. victor in all those being like see. That's why he's the best coach? Ever I really dont ever read out a bill and I think everyone I've spoken to is like this is buccaneers has just because a personnel on Brady's, nationally this game mad I've seen this. This is going to do enough to teams that I thought were unstoppable over the years that I'm not gonna put anything in pen on this one, while there hereupon underdogs at home, which is an automatic ballot, Jack Red Flag ages. I think he's been home dog, probably half the time was just last year with care but just in general. It's always it gets back for them. I think they there get killed. today the guy killed or it's it's. I got two minutes at than the game wide open like one of those things here in between. I know you've done the best patriots wins over last night. What's his best coaching performance? Is it like the AFC championship against the colts in the super bowl against the,
first or second, one like what is the one that you pointing a terrific I need one of those taper performance is right. I woods I'd think the first Rams Superbowl we set that I just thought but that Ravens game during the Seattle Superbowl Year have, when I really do think the ravens were probably better, go there and create our back. They phobia by fourteenth way such as Canada, credit that one out, those are probably the two. The rams super bowl just completely demolishing the Gothic Bay area. To the point that I think Mcveigh for probably two years was like I just can't. I need a better quarterback. I just I. I can't do that that can't happen again, so that was good one, but I would say, probably those three, but what's up with the rams, quick, be you try to talk me out. I'm gonna get some. Last week I tried it there. One of the teams I was looking at. I have a little tease. Parlay bracket four million dollars and its chiefs minus seven
we're egos, rams, modest foreign out former partners. Packers minus six therefore restores in bucks made a similar the patriots unless they were others led for obvious to users. The teachers had been pretty reliable so far this year, so we can start with the Sam's cuz, we can either put them in a parlay or in a tenant he's I'm a believer. They're healthy Mcveigh owns the cardinals, owns them paying rent on them the lights. Only four and one slash two seems low, seems like the cards getting little respect, cuz the way they started. The season, but as long as the rams are healthy and can run it on both sides, the way they're running, I'm riding it, because it's a team that the big x factor with them has what happens if they have injuries. What happens if you know they're not, could have death, cuz, they're, so tough but right out working in their top heavy and they're running all cylinder. So until that changes, I think there.
legitimate shot at maybe these least seven or eight. No, before its rescued, dicey, witty would you think we're to stand together best him? The league I think that investing in it by a large margin and they're playing at home against the team that one coach has never lost to the other coach, nay play twice a year. I think this one is rams and I think the rams when pretty handedly honestly and in a way I think highly of clear, and I think that eventually he will get this isn't the week like this rams famous sizzling right now and has caused Those are, I think this is one of those deals where just every different match up. I think he's in the Rams favour quarterback, I think Stafford over Kyler. I think defence. I think the rams defects explain better than the cardinals events is at the moment and through regains Stafford is having clear eyes. Incompletion percentage, passing yards touchdowns ass a rating went like he's red hot. The x factor here is Ramsay and Hopkins, and they ve played so many times going back to the Jacksonville abused in days.
and for whatever reason just ran, does really well against the Hopkins and can take him out the games, especially since they both got to Arizona in a way that had to matters only one of them. It wasn't even Kyler big seventeen he got injure but Ramsay last year in the tumor Its lined up on Hopkins fifty five sixty eight times how she s Hopkins, bind, and those in those games for for next to nothing did did absolutely nothing shocks in in the second game. What is a muslim Ghana cholera with an injury they needed Hopkins to step up are people around the labour like. Where was Hopkins without ever back for catches, thirty five yards and the biggest game of the season with no shell and Ramsay completely took a matter himself Ramsay can handle Hopkins and then you're gonna make Rather than beat you in it,
Kyler, whose had great success, but his numbers against the rams are not good and not just the rather lost some of them that you, like ok, he's own for he's, averaging less than two hundred yards per game and for whatever reason he doesn't connect than these deep passes against IRAN's he hasn't. He hasn't had ethics. Flash player, meanwhile Stafford against the cardinals historically and has all in such I look at it that way. I look at my then cliff relationship and I spoke to Theirs the guy's for awhile earlier this week in my to use that as an abortion, we're thing like we haven't, eaten these guys. If reverently taken budget, there is concentrated like its new guys in a new guys in the locker about that play. That's the only player, this crew and more or less we're gonna play our game in there to stop us, which means are not doing a golden bird material, such great respect for the two coaches. But I just think Mcveigh got cliff on this once I would say rams and I kind of
confident that not only for half a day like this might not even be backless. So the cardinal the titans in week, one which is, I think, one of the weird week, one games that we can covid stuff going on hot weather. All that stuff, Vikings picks for the Vikings give it away just cuz the field goal. Kick a state which has great four million darkshire great for us were red hot and then the jagged joking around Maj GEN hung around in the high tech aim was Harry and we had them with cards behind our pics last. We too in order it now right away. I bet I'm betting on them. That's how I came up with the cook. gosh, you can't stay away. It's like there like a drug problems in this game. From what I remember that Vikings game, which Thou hast was almost three weeks ago, I just felt the Hence, can move the walk up and down the field on them in the rams are better version, the Viking with it with a better coach
better. On the other end, it's just I like the match, ability thing that worries me is you have a Seahawks game. On Thursday? We five hundred and rank with turnaround, so you have car, does in this game then you have another energy west Bloodbath four days later and that that scares me that little le metallurgy attain hanging over them. Yet so that's it other other that I'm not scared at his game, and I think they're too fast on defence fur Kyler to do, though man show John Janeway thing I think That's happening, it's a rabbit. I don't think so. I interested you did you know you are early on it and we talked about it. We brought Kragan like Cooper Camp is doing things that it's not easy. I think he's the best right now. He leads in all the specific categories, and did you see the route he ran on that Carlton Davis, which I call the Ojo route where he comes in comes out
Yet- and it comes out again met amazing, it was incredible Indyk they spoke about it publicly in Jordan, robbery, kudos, Stephanie Aquatic for them as a whole article on its good, but I spoke with shawnees like how that come to be it around. We had golden Phaeton good morning. Football is that we have never seen. That is. I got for multiple thousand yards seasons problem seasons. I've never seen that route. Where you in real time in out and out and it was they tried it once in practice and Stafford an end cup practice depress the practice and asked Mcbay likely incorporate this round is again serve. You guys can do it. You know that's, how does it happening like there? Is this weird thing worth fly what's Craig was try new things which people haven't seen and certainly Mcveigh haven't seen the quarterback. So ones, riding high all taken the lost, her humble them, but right now, there's really good and I think the whole field which is opening in LA and at the Colosseum was nothing you saw that place NATO Brady was in town, but that's the hope that they have the celebrities and has some buzz and it hasn't juice and Larry
David and days would feel the north Turner can show up like that. Stop. Where did you get those kind of celebrities? Just save my thumbs? proud of either the crowd affected. The game. I think those allowed in that that there is a real energy to- and you know you said this- for the year and I made fun of you but the Desean Jackson as long as he's going to stay healthy, it's still scary for the other team to have Matt there cuz, the one thing he can do is great line as fast as everybody in the leg is you have to worry about is thirty four years old and all they terms do is go as fast as you can go straight and there's only one shot a game, but guess what he had to last week and one of them is clear: carry the ball with one hand. I just downloaded the I'm a better lives, and I discovered so we're gonna we're gonna have them their man. Is foreign anther modesty, twenty five, so like them, the chiefs there seven or monastery tenor of the eagles there's only red flag in this game was how bad the eagles looked ass sweet. But this comes down to leg
all right come on. I guess she's really gonna go one in three now and you think, like they're, probably to place away from big three now super sloppy. We too, and we three This basically gave way games. I don't know what the homes they were near. The ended that are on that throwing resist super sloppy, and you know when he plays like that it does the door for the ridiculous I don't know, is Herbert the guy. Now we withdraw its September, but home says this old track. Records or live depends on a super balikh. What's that, with that. I love Herbert, but also, as you know, the chiefs. This is like the perfect situation for them with a tease. there's a little bit of concern and secondly, on their can they stopped the run. While they look so sloppy, it's a great ok, I'm pretty sure they can be the egg I am pretty sure that I can go one in three. It is infallible I'm not worried about this gave him. You know
and there's so much to to take from the way that game went down the way they lost and the way they talked about it afterwards, that I do people roll their eyes with no one. Listen to press game. Postgame press conference talk like Clyde, Edwards Helaire, but we we beat ourselves. We can't turn the ball over four times bath. Mahomes. games tournaments. At no point was it like the better t1 today, like the chiefs, their building and they thought the same weakens the ravens like wishing to formal so there one in two. They think they should be three, no they're not losing three games in a row with Patrick MA homes at the quarterback position, and if you look at like this, the first time ever had a losing record with moms. It's the first time, maybe analysing record since week. Ten of two thousand fifteen in it they are eagles. Just don't have a lot of good players like the eagles might be funded
for a moment here and there and you hurt, can make some players, but you go up and down the roster they're, just they don't have the talent to compete with Kansas City, so if it gets to be issued out or if it gets to be here, we need to go to advertise down. I have no confidence that Eagles office can generate points. I think, as we look at it week, one it's not a liar, but weak one falcon was a really good match up for the eagles. After preparing off season, it come out how my Geier, Benson I call on the ringer he was like I, it was super gimmicky with vehicles. Redoing like them put. The ball was going three yards per player, three point: seven, whatever was in the falcon stink, as we now know anything so bent in opens right in its we thought the falcon forget this high powered, often it's gonna be able to get out and anxious. We teams are revealing themselves are not there, yet it might be. She's will not lose this game. I yet we don't need to do. I don't give a shit the Falcons yet because I think rather spiders done. Ok, like he's dying,
now he was done last year they doubled. But then there is a double down at cigar. I wore maybe rioters you're, better line better running back and who get a better shape, but he's done, I think it's over and I dont think sound. I we did a whole thing about it. Do As you have a game, I hear you start for the stairs or whatever I think he's done is Bat Ryan done close. Eighty percent there is, he looks often does not look good and they beat it. I am any generates the points and you come out of that in your like me, feel good about the Falcons now which he was you're. Not there is about more than ten yards and their game. He wasn't finding receivers, you is. It doesn't look right here and this is worth reading. You know it's even worse for him, and this is an old quarterback thing where it's like they don't they don't want to stay in the pocket for the extra split. Second and they don't trust themselves during the ball away right. You don't want to get hit it s really want to move around. So you start check and down and taken make easy throws, are just trying to get rid of the disputes. Egg he's doesn't
he's just not. This is the way I mean it started last year, but it's it's now. They below average quarterback. Maybe this is the first time in his Here is an offensive head. Coach he's always had defensive minded head coach Weatherby makes me whether it be dead Quinn. Were there even rightly Morris last year who, by traders, the defensive goat and you Father, Arthur Psmith. Anyone have this instant Jelinek, it hasn't happened yet, and I thank you. Arthur it's gonna, maybe take a little longer than I thought, and I know is very high on what he was branch the table because of what he draws up and how much respect the other offensive. Coaches after we haven't seen it yet atlanta- and I don't think that Ryan Surly looks like in a five year to use now look back on this day. The fourth over I'll pick mythic aside end when there is too quarterbacks fields and MAC Jones, didn't didn't, take one of those guys. So it will be interesting to see how the Mat Ryan Dinner chapters and with that man, it's only defence above you think you can get three to four years.
right? When I was a kid I thought I was like yet that makes sense to me because arrived is that that old, but from what we ve seen it's just not good they're they're, getting and half at home against Washington and, as you know, people the stability pact's. I stay away from games with to bed, but I mentioned the stairs and the Those rights has barely been that thing because their plane and Green Bay there only get six and a half, because people are scared, atomic I'm scared of Tom thing away out of town. I dont want item that going against Tomlin, as the sixth airport underdog would like a seemingly dead quarterback. This is what this is. What he loves is what he lives for, and f and G g. What might is expected to play is practising this week and they are such different team with another field. So six and a half once again. I don't know I think my windscreen outright. Oh, just like back against the wall, Tomlin Class, a game, let's go and find a way to figure this out, he's really a coach
and so I wouldn't we see this. The same way stairs are pushed to twenty five to win our right yeah. I wouldn't bet that straight up, becoming up and under that are there like crossing off the packers they're out there look pretty good last week, but I don't trust that either do you know. They gave up that lead at the end. They should have one that came going away and the egg and another three games nothing in Pakistan's. I quit shooting the backers, but they lost the first one. Thirty Threerd crazy and in the second game they were getting to the lions. The third condition one handedly the natives crippling back any data final miracle, Dr Rogers, with thirty seven seconds, are not so great about the packaging. Jimmy G with just barely trying to give them the bar Monica fear. Tat I wanted you another pick, and neither they were. You know that wasn't a great win as where's that sounds last one for teases bucks bats, which is minus seven, we're circle,
that look, I know their pictures. I have an idea. Look over that camp straight up. We have three that I really like and feel free to throw in any now the first one Are you gonna to talk me out of an I'm ready to be talked out of it and I actually I wanna be talked out of it. I'm the guy in college is like hey. Should I ask that girl out or lives in our hard? I need you to be. I don't don't ask her out. We only here. I've got a deal with their September. Yeah yeah, she's, five rooms away, don't do it. I, like the Vikings plus two and a half at home against Cleveland, so do the hall we haven't talked about this just do the horse, the fancy home. Don't do that. Don't use aim, therefore make the Earl s blessing. indigo. Girls are any the Franco and you just don't. Wanna go near that dorm room to fancy. He worked for Zimmer for six years. Fourteen fears in Minnesota. He was the tyrants coastal running back social quarterback starch ed. I just dont be confused by the to touch them.
When again Seattle Ass, your Seattle would last week Seattle was moving about right up and down the field. Severity knows that defence inside and out. He knows that personnel inside and out of it miles, carriage elastic, obviously against a net Chicago the defence of its line, but I would not bet against events game. This game is a smart dude and he knows the entire Minnesota roster, right now and has a better roster on his side. I would I would not go Minnesota I'd like this Minnesota thing. They talk it up here, not just I'm not saying this week. I like them cause, I think, cousins. With he's done this before first half Kirk we ve seen it. I really think they can move the bar. Now, why I'm staying away this defence? Keeping keeping a fancy? Thank us he's gonna know that right, he's gonna, have ideas, and yet do I always get
arrest when the when the old coordinate comes back on also, I think the Brown might have a good defence and I'm not just saying that cause they look great against bad now, and ass. The fields icebreaker latte Way Moors. It way more speed than they did. I share the nobody my backer here. I remember watching that draft, yet Jeremiah Elusive Koromo a great name over twenty eight. He was supposed to go in the what sixteen the twins two reindeer he had. I am a rare heart condition that was spotted by some doctors. just got around the league and team, stayed away the grounds for shocked. He was sitting there in the fifties shot. I mean it believe what I got a first round pack in the fifties. Combined with all the others that tab Odell came back, look good, who don't look? Ok, yeah? I had a really good game and got overshadowed by fields is performance the next morning, but like the browns move, the ball and o Dell back
was really really solid and again so my thought is, I don't wanna take the brands I don't want to. I don't trust Baker in Minnesota. I think it's a stay away. My thought is if the brands can be Minnesota, which is great for me example, big Brown, division, bed and all but other stuff and then adopt a throw people off the set on Minnesota even more, and I actually believe in Minnesota. As I get nine and eight is the ito, eight nine kind of frisky they have a couple of sets in them team. So ominous they were more than this week. The team I'm not staying away from the sea Huxley yeah, they're, plus three ok plus three in San Francisco. As you said, they they move the ball three weeks
you give it three stay weeks of. The ball was moving around and things were happening and the Titans game was just a dumb loss that had a weird moments of ship. I believe a momentum, other people, don't I do believe, a momentum. Something happened in that game and you could see it in all sincerity on their heels and it got weird and then last week whatever happens. I think they their win or think it's a three point game from what I've seen it. Forty diners, I don't like the ruddy backs at all, though, with the wide receivers stuff seems super clumsy to me, their defensive line is nearly like dominant as I thought it was getting in. Jimmy G throws two to three balls, basically up in the air, and it's like anybody can get three of his past his per game. Seattle can win this game outright, sought an over them into the plus three or the money line. I always liked the post Regis crazy. You buy little buffer them? What do you think? What would you do, plus there your money? My true did it's hard to assess either team Seattle beat Indianapolis pretty
Indeed blows that leader Tennessee and then lose if by chance to a Viking, seem that they promised to be in an in San Francisco, be too terrible teams and then was the Green Bay, but the Seattle thing that so weird It is late, they start the games off, so good are often so. This word sixty two points over that in the first half those first, your games, they scored a combined thirteen points in the second half in overtime of those regions. At the moment, the most points in the first I. Finally, they have the least points in the second half of the week, which is such a strange. You have to think that corrects itself and they have abandoned the run in the second half of all these games for whatever reason within days Russell Wilson, and he has a really really good outings against the San Francisco. Forty address defects, even it was better than that such Russ is fifteen in four against the Niners, including the by us in his career, his eight in one the first time these two teams play, which means the first hundred Etna look at Russell. He always has the advantage and if your visit
end of the day. It is three point spread this games in San Francisco he's dead, not scared to go. There is a division, rivals and I'll. Take Mr Wilson overdue meagre up low and he asked me to come down to about the quarterback and the best thing about this game is tickets to lose by fear gone its approach. You get a move on away, perhaps good, and we haven't seen a scenario where same Cisco beats Seattle handily. I do think this will be a narrative game now in this respect the Eba either. I like markers like that, like you gotTa Brandt, like his angry, ran down to his great great stuff, a love anger, Randy really gets death. This narrative gave to me Seahawks win Now the Niners movements that trailer the time. What do we do? Jimmy G? Should they trade em? What about the Steelers, like nineteen stories, come out of that if Seattle loses
I'd say it's going on here. This is the end of the Russia. Was an era traded some first from pigs for atoms, either way in their defence better, but away atoms through three games highest paid safety in leading traded Kurtz. I stayed in defence of guy and opposition Vieira sacks zero tackles for lost through three games and that's what you got him for and are given up a lotta yards. It's actually to the point where a lot of Seattle fans are asking not what's wrong with my items were like. Is this defence fixable at it three, that's a real concern. Well, no team is picked. A partner ran eyes quite like the Seattle Seahawks, because they have half the national media is from Seattle. At this point in a dilemma. What we oblige me Nicaragua Danica, yet I there's not acts than that fan base, just a general, the barriers.
make a late wildcard, rather so that I am slightly, but I think if they lost this game, I do think the Wilson trade stuff starts again right. There be no basis to it. Somebody will started on Monday, be something that I get floated out there and images here we go. Why is in Russia, Wilson, the guy getting trader Miami Whitish, Watson, why are they going after Russell at all? That shit will start your writing our show for good morning for both egg. You need this stuff, that's that's good with it to see how you gonna win its fine speaking, the dolphins, minus one and a half over the court's, I'm kind of a percent believe I don't think he's bad. I feel the same way about whom, as a dude mince you like he's, not bad, you love you dare not across our borders as their out across off. I thought they did a good job in their raiders game, was terrified all game. We had the raiders, a our tax and every time I thought the dolphins were dead. They were like Michael
herzing it coming back and I just think the colts suck. Honestly, I don't think they're good. I don't think they're well coached this year, for whatever reason the quarterback situations disaster, the defense has been as good as we thought. Their offensive line is a little banged up. That was supposed to be the strength of their team and I think they're actually like not a good football team. So the dolphins are one and people that got caught don't want to go in for, but I don't dolphins don't want to go one and three either. I just think they have more town if they have a better team. What do you think the offense has been so bad for my man over set made some plays happen with his legs, but like besides the I'm not sure if there's a like a less inspiring offensive attack in winter up fourteen nothing and they throw that wide receiver screen that ends up being a safety to make it fourteen to an end. Five more point, however terrible, and they got interesting they ve got co offensive coordinators right now, so studios
running back thirty God seasonal, including as good as it was called the plays unaware the directions coming from any good conference. I dont think that culture going Owen For- and I think, Carson whence is better than Jacobus said. I. I thought that the home field advantage for the dolphins would come into play in that we too game against the bills near lost thirty five to nothing. I don't think there is much more home feel the damage I, like the colts in this one, but I understand if you want to take the dolphins personally, I just didn't you like the colts, so I do back off a wall gritty Pats win in week, one ass, the bills game just got. Where do we too in the US? The bills now, I think, have re, establish themselves as who they are yet they should be the writer I'm not really lucky winning that game. It was a really stupid game to win and I like how they kept fighting back. Now I dont see them loose in the courts, so we might agree.
disagree on the site, but fair you'd, better, go ended, explained to me this. Why is this fine? You, usually the whole team is favoured by three year. It is right if the two things even the hunters vibratory wisest, I'm one and a half, and what is it about the cold? Sir? I'm not saying I think it's more about the dolphins and the lack of confidence in. and I mean the court's these guys- I mean whence- will be playing Jonathan Taylor, We play they had not been playing well, but they will be playing it got there guys they got their guys and it. Oh, I don't know what to make of this dolphins team and if anything, Europe reset guy I didn't buy, was I blown away with them? Last week I fought I'm saying I'm a reset guys like with pleasure, backup. Normally your backup comes in and it's a disaster he's ok like E. He made some points, They were down eight. They bade he's, got a fourth into touch tab, and then they got the two point that that nothing in Vegas where each place do or die. You know what do you think it? A watson, stuff,
hello esteem this week. I'm not sure if you saw that on your radar, but the Wifi network, they're getting louder and I work with Jake Laser on Fox. He came out and said: Texans have softened they're asking price a little bit, but- still don't have anything from the league that we still have to mean that comes out and say this, and the the commissioner's example is still being paid like, and I think what the Texan strategy was on this, and I say this with some inside on. It was: let's see how the seasons
Weatherby Miami with every Carolina. Will there be Denver? One of these teams is going to say after four weeks like alright, let's make a moves like we're not going to and fourteen this year we're not going to one hundred and fifty the dolphins make a lot of sense here. I don't know if things continue to slide out of control, I wouldn't be shocked if that stuff, you can get the other louder. I agree it's a two or thing as a disaster for them it's a flat out disaster. I just am not sure he's ever an above average starting quarterback. We see no evidence at all. On top of it, you have to her birthday, which I compared with Sal on Sunday spots at the rant noted words are poor and takes out in seems great on paper there, some red flags are somehow stuff in their kind of ignoring their superior ceiling of the other guy, then the other guy, turned into the other guy. Now it's like, oh my god, he's. What do we do so the Watson thing kind of throws people off the scent of that, but you know it getting suspended for the year.
And the stuff. What I don't know, I don't know that I dont know what is being suspended for the year. He's not suspended, really he's not decided one. five cases, our I mean, how does he player has a bitter? There hasn't been a decision by the league. There hasn't been anything that has been made, and essentially these other teams. They have had their people investigating everything they can be. The harden who is Clemens is old lawyer the sheer Watson's lawyer- and essentially these teams are allowed to ask you know hey what do you got? What do you think I would I don't know were now going? the October bill? Understood anything from the league, like I'm sure he's, is that when nothing from nothing from the shouts of either, I think what first forward such trade is in the trade made it to a ten first round picks, I think what they want, but they say originally before the season started, and I got this thing good. You know background is A first round pigs and three others are not happy that,
you're, not getting three further only knows this late into the season, so let's say they lower that it too first round pigs and two additional assets which could be two of which could be a wide receiver. Could be a line and work to decouple later rail picks, but fails to pigs in its superstratum picks and it You know a veteran player and it's a third round pick, but what do they want to play for they're gonna, go to in fifteen I would want to first second, and to my great, let's call it and if that's the case that deadlock them up for this year, draft and they move on and they ve got to it. A holder told it down. For now. I just
Would it until the trade deadline are not taken to shun Watson off the table for any these schemes in the dolphins are fascinating because they they believe their play off team and if the quarterback position is what's holding back, there's really viable quarterback days had to go all in and say we trust what what what we have and if they don't trust they have their way. You just made my case. The dolphins proved their past him. I don't think they're losing the Fuckin Courts and Carson. Well son is two sprained ankles like hobbled around. Like I'm happy, if I lose money, the court's leg of the court's beat me find take my money. I don't believe in that thing. I don't wear it. break it. We're gonna go over a fascinating, fascinating group of underdog part. That is absolutely right Directv stream, introducing directive history in the best of live tv, and I demand which means you can get your favorite sports movies and shows together.
See how much new observed your favorite reality shows live or been drawn up so that the ban either way you re first drama and the best part directive be stream. Has no annual contract Directv stream. Get your tv together at Directv. Dotcom compatible device required content varies by pack I come back under parlay the weak there's a lot of choices here. I'm gonna throw these. Are you wanna time Giants plus, Who eighty five against the saints? Almost three two one, a kid! Ok, I'm happy to crossing. just presenting its idea, like historically burned by giants games in New Orleans. I was remember that horn game and you're gonna sell for on a Sunday night. Remember a couple years ago was like fifty two to forty giants. Do not fair
well in New Orleans. I just the giants for now I can't go near them out is. Are we surprised that there, this poorly Ars have looked as for the coach that they really slappy. This was supposed to be the thing that they were good at just like they're supposed to be a crisp bad team, but now they're a slappy bad thing, they're going to they're going smart clock management sooner we get a mean that Washington loss when you have a three hundred and forty pounds offensive tackled Dexter Lawrence go off sides on a game, winning feasible attempt. Chris Carter was uncle mourning for both as the next morning at a great that man has never blocked a fuel in his life. What is he doing and that is rash and judges especial teams coach than some of the cop management of weak one when he throws a challenge flag on forth their score and, as I know, you Katy at the penalty, lay a little thing so but everyone, but with the giants every Wanna talk to you. It's like it goes back not to judge the players, like judge NET Jason Guards, the name that keeps on coming up with this offices,
you got a lot of talent, make it work. Any hasn't been able to. It just seems a day should be checked and about our field like that. Nineteen, seventy raiders, I'm in New York, take away knowing nothing now, but the Jetson giants are only three and I both basically irrelevant and it's not even apple picking season. Yet I get socks spray tat. Next one. We like this one, a little more out of the New York Times jets, plus two seventy How are we to make the case? How could you make the cap? I love it when they hear tides, have no receivers. Strew tides have a terrible defence, the jets defence. It's not awful there. There actually, like their faster move around once are begin their Denver game? What, sir down, twenty that nothing in your quarterback can complete a pass naturally, when maybe the deal, that is great for the defence, but if they were
ever gonna win a game early in the season. This is the kind of match up where Sack Wilson, who actually have time to do so. if he has any town at our any reason, be starting a football game. This is the team you'd want to play, right, so I always get a lead here just get a lead, get a little momentum and they have the titans if they fall behind. How are they going to throw the ball and how many receivers are they going to do so? I don't know four. Two hundred and seventy, it's intriguing wet talk me out of it come on. they're, not stopping their account then are beating Derek Henry in Canada. There's enough guys, I'm Hennessy team and I had to be so dismissive without love, nothing more than Farley's one of you seems in my back yard. The give us something to watch and the local games were. I just don't see it
It's gonna be a longer forgets bands, I don't know- and I have many wins on there, and I think this is the one. I don't think I can tell you the play of team if they put it all together, Etch Edgy Brown and Polio Jones, and how can I make a break this game? It's just this too many too many talent deficiencies on the jets I'll above me, make them a good day. Are we sure that titans or even remotely good think they are the kind of two in one room there's plus one thirty. Eight against chargers itself on the raiders just can knock at risk. Back from anybody's everybody dies. You should allow on. You should last Alan. I disagree, I think they're pretty get. They can't run the bars. The thing that is that that paint Barbara, the annual budget of values do on it. He was carrying a dyed. I'll bet he's just like it's like we have brandyball than out of their own, but I don't know you live
You done the raiders week, one with eight when that miracle game against the ravens and then weeks to reopen. They won that miracle game against dolphins to beat up forty nothin before they get even started. I feel like it's kind of funding for the raiders runaway. It's got a minute, What do you like them? In the same way, I would send sofa me. Let me put this around what scares you about the charge can really get it he's awesome and Herbert I mean with those you take the two Red zone interceptions away from the Dallas game. Herbert has had an outstanding season and last week to go into Arrowhead Addison
guess confidence, building capacity, fine, and I think you talked about it- would sound you guys we're gonna Monday, when its fourth in nine and still is like now, if I go for it like a little thing and they got it, that has interference and, of course, the botched its announcement down the stretch. Another fact of the matter, the fact he went to their team, the Hereafter Anthony Lent punted the ball on forth into a similar situation and mouths came right down. If I believe in the coach ethical deal like the charges have a good little thing going, but its prime more funding for the writers in this game, because we ve been run with them already to seize it. Let's get going renders a plus one forty four dealers plus two twenty five we mention of it. This is just where basically saying we trust by time, and we don't care, they are quarterback as a corpse yet ouida its It's it's literally. We trust the logos at the Steelers them hell. Let's go nineteen seventies, raiders and legislate for good,
Miss old teams from the F C. What's wrong with it, I mean the Steelers deal is like they burst, David writer Mark cupola. Thank it for now, as you said, is becoming eighteen to twenty years I ask you again Cincinnati with single, namely the worst game. He's ever see the black and white I'll, think Tom and allows them to go out there so much better when you do want is on the field Jude, you wasn't practically only this week that the Anti Johnson was they gets guys back on an offence another of beggars ever done anything to lobby away this year. I certainly don't you. This is hackers, like thirty, eight, ten or anything, this is a classic. We thought stores were Dagenham it. Maybe they can if they get a lead only don't need a lot for brought the spider dodgy. I like them, we're not we're not them in their filaments last one is panthers, plus one sixty eight over the cowboys,
I like the Panthers a lot more earlier in the week and the more I thought about this game looked at it every every ever blind spot with a team. I just don't see array and- and I keep trying to think this is the up. I think I do said abides by the cowboys I actually they might be good. He couldn't, if you go back- and you think about the first three weeks- that camp a game They really went toe to toe with them. That came last week on Monday, at eight, they fucking killed Philly Shield and they have guys on defense now, like Parsons, to do that. If you do the regular redraft and good morning for by a yes and he's the top five, because he really had a vague he's unbelieving on his ability to either linebacker be defence in the way they can move em around regiment, my son and fight for partners just like such such a weapon. To have somebody like that, like the ability to just move around the coaches like we need payment, linebacker put advancement, I see a lot of my
parsons at my son and vice versa, drew back how the second before I would ask you know, as you gotta give us the ban resume at like football, and what are you discovered about on the eighth grade level donated Now I am just excited. His wee wee wee beat arrival today I was there the rabbis better. They they got shut out. We would have liked where's. My family hasn't made. My son goes to the same school as my daughter, and we never won a banner, and this is maybe my best chance. Not even in the thought came. Others for bottle now is that there was coerce soccer. Was the basketball team three stray years losses in the final sir this is our one there. What chance with a cowboy to running backs both good like just always like they always have somebody good in their disturbed accident. Plastic really really site that he came back the way he did, and it actually fearsome invented this with the Office of coordinator.
I don't know man, I've just had the Panthers Puzzlin Sixty eight, but I think like no Mccaffrey no Jesse it it. I am stayed away. Here's, though so the cowboys gotta a overnight in its really is overnight the coordinators, all the different stand. Quintus brought a whole different schemes, looks great, but literally MIKE and dig Zoo way whose number ninety seven are flying a legitimate rookies and then trip on digs might be their best corner. Who write outstanding, actually wrote about over five were stuck on the beach twenty twenty corner. Draft class is actually fascinating because there are five taken in the first round of Cuba. Already pathetic. Jellies has neither for definite CD. Henderson was attacked in that region.
They trade and for like sixty cents about dollar you ve got our net invaded the writers who does not in any other agents Ralph, as happens with the much needed in Miami who hasn't them for the second round eyes. Alan Johnson in Chicago, looks great. It's trebled digs, who looks even better than his kit. Christian fallen for Tennessee they'll want the second round. This driven digs is outstanding and he is going to be a problem for teams. The next few years, he's article three interceptions see put those three young guy to them. fences game any out in the other players like they haven't events and that's all they need good. Their organs is great and it looks I beg for blue shippers added. Lastly drafts yeah scenario, even again, maybe even more that, but I had four for sure words. Just like these geyser are we at ship start early had come. Then Johnson, on the show today for good morning. Football Calvin is a man of very few words, but he was promoting his football life on it. If a network- and we basically ass
like crews, the young receiver that you like that you put me on the spot, is I collect city land, but I have all the young eyes. City land is attack especial he does things like. They know the guys like that they now in cities just getting started. I think I think that you can make the argument that here's Carolinas defends its great. This Dallas team is pretty good and they should, with this game at one o clock. I like that you put he put cover Johnson on the spot. Ask him: why don't receiver he liked it. tough question, but you hate you did this job for a living for twelve years. Anybody younger than you when you watch for bother you gotta, like I don't know you put your spam folder so many eyes by time. Jesus I had so well so you're leaning toward you, like Raiders Steelers, raiders, plus one forty four restores, plus two twenty five. Yet with Washington, murder underdogs, and I gather that the data
not begging on camp. We can put them in, but Put the raiders in ok, plus six. Ninety three raiders Steelers kind of tasty, I mean just going to give this to you, even though you already Pooh poohed it. We do a little jets and steelers. That is a plus one thousand and eighty. When they return to see where the jets have scored again seen it I don't know it's actually like the fact that Metlife it's in New Jersey, like I would say. Oh it's right, that's the jets game kind of kind of like like. Let me throw this at U2 at this, the jets fans being furious. They have already boy first round by doing waiting here. Why? Why are you doing this guy's aright so
Do the million dollar pics before we do million dollar pics water dimension bass me for a fanduel boost four hundred and forty four path books where I can affect the bat and my boost was Matt Jones will throw more touchdown passes, did Tom Brady on Sunday night to believe that I thought the odds were going to be eight to one. They gave me plus three hundred and fifty. do pretty good odds for a quarterback first quarterback, touchdowns or so ephemeral, and you know you're on the one yard line. Dawson sub is running it in, but three hundred and fifty MAC Jones, I'm going to. Away from that a million dollar pigs but wanted to leave that to the public. You can go on the follow up go to boost. Let me ask you one: again, you can find it. What's the most compelling outcome of Sunday night, likewise. The one that Monday morning has the most buzz. Is it the Brady blow out? Is it the fella check out duels ray I? What do you think.
I think it's a shoot out we're MAC Jones. It's really good Brady also has a good game and Brady's down three points with three minutes I put. The ball is the best way, this good player or its tie game. Three minutes. I've set Brady having the ball with tension in pressure with three minutes ago. I think this could be a really where game now, because you you're gonna all the emotion, the beginning and then you're asking that the record the names can have these outrageous separating GAD side. These too weird emotional peaks. The games could have no flow, and I think that's good for the patriots. I can turn them. Signor Cameron, here we go million dollar packs we're going for a night straight as if we had had a monster, we get first one chiefs, ramps chiefs, minus seven.
actually rams modest foreign half at the card was that of we parlay this. The odds are basically the same as a tease, ok summit to tease it is it. What's he's down chiefs to minus one ran two plus one and a half ago, ransom I'll lose by one. We still cover that. We think forger care five and your cabinet, dear love under category. Let's go will open up this week will put five hundred K Chiefs Rams teaser then I have a little little surprise, for you will taste we really like the chiefs of Sweet Great wherein, on that she loved achieves the sick, were on the cheese more than
rams more than the rams? The first ever conditional million dollar pick we ve ever made while chiefs bucks Chiefs than one bucks Anwar. Putting two hundred can that, but the chiefs Win were putting conditional another two hundred k and the Pats plus seven. We try to Middle Pats bucks. Ok, I mean we have the milliner pics action, so the chiefs have to win. If they lose, we just lose day. Twenty. The Chiefs Boxes Chiefs win now the conditional pats back kicks. In now we now either lose one of the bats or, if its pats lose by less than seven, but the bucks when we went about that's so now, I have some action on,
Brady Background, I love it. I figured you that can only rugged idea. Why do the first ever conditional bellied, our pig Erika two hundred and fifty K, Seahawks plus three amateur downgrade this by fifty cages? Cause you don't like this one? dauphines two hundred keg, don't eyelids minus one enough from doing it doing it, my guy Jacobus, a good luck with them. It is a matter. I can get you liked, it costs more than make I'm getting you and you could be Preset Jersey, win or lose its gonna, be in your mail, and now you have written the best part. Is you have to refer the dolphins there have it. You said it yourself, they think they're play. I do your play of team Doha, one in three take our business here in Miami Sir. We're doing that and then finally, last one underdog parley Thirty three k: we have one under our parlay since we want, but we only need to win three hundred out parlay this
he's in and we win arm our money for the year and that we were positive stewards, raiders plus six. Ninety three, I love it were putting thirty three can that the stores have to beat the packers. The raiders have to beat the chargers both on the road and then just for fun. We're gonna, put ten k and the jets to win. And the Steelers to win adds plus ten eighty nine Jetson feelers yeah just that low ten k flag, so no Marcus may jets without any orphans. The last three weeks gonna beat the Titans. Let's go you wanna scratch attempt talk, We need the money, we need the bankroll crosser off.
Do it bill? What are we doing relevant? Let's go back and then came when I disagree: better cliff kings, burying calamari twice in three weeks in our potential and the jobs that is the millionaire, picks or weak for we can see. We will see video at nitrate weeks, Nora peacemaker. We see a good morning. Four bar was see you on Fox on Sunday file hosting again that a one time thing, tourism, you feel and well? They threw me into the hosting chair. I loved it was a one time deal I'll, be back our emphasis thick eleven, I M Eastern Fox NFL kick off another bit, beg you you, it's good to see, you calculate, produces podcast, go patriots go red Sox. This could be like a devastating sports began from am now or could be a wonderful delay for sports waiting to see how goes woozy on Sunday on this point,
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