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The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Ryen Russillo to discuss top NBA draft prospect Cade Cunningham after Oklahoma State's loss to Oregon State in the NCAA tournament (2:30), LeBron James's ankle sprain and his unprecedented durability over the years (26:00), updated NBA MVP odds (47:45), the upcoming NBA trade deadline (1:19:00), and more.

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I ran associated with this wait: nine twenty two p M Pacific we decided to wait till after the Oklahoma State came, which was the last March badges game of this Friday, a Sunday stretch one is he kept Cunningham Europe losing it to Oregon state? Who, I can't even say they played that while the second half the funny thing about this game, they get thirty six forty, it was almost a three hour game. We thought out of a great bang it out. In the end. I forgot there's just ten million time out and to better tat. We finish this could be eleven o clock, Gibbey Gimme, weird
have three take away from March banned as this. We get a lot of theories out there. A lot of the upsets were mistakes loyal beating Illinois. They they just run great stuff and Illinois hard times stay with them and they seem to get clean all the time anyone. I was one of my favorite deeps night LA I love them. I thought they had size, and I owes is this gonna. Do everything guide? It's gonna be first round back but were beaten. Oral Robert Menial House and beating floored again today, like that, wasn't a mistake: dismal out of these every seed. One through fifteen is one a game. In the first weekend, the only seed that has one a game is a sixteen seed, so we can talk about Oh, you know the uniqueness of the season and ill big ten fans are like hey look. We were there a week ahead of time, but you know if the big tenant had a good opening weekend, they would have said he they were climate. They were used to. Indeed it was a huge advantage, so you know You could talk about also no home court with the parting system and fans, and all that I don't know. Last year
there. I have met him shirts right bill. Last year, we had unprecedented, like turnover worth rate, seems losing Unring teams all season and No, if it's a continuation of some, these teams, where, in the top isn't that good, no good having and paler- and these are. Seems that our power fires just ready to go. So a lot of these upsets didn't feel like weird mistakes. Do you think it's a little bit like NBA bubble, we're just almost didn't, seem like home court advantage matter for those two and a half months, because the fans, the atmospheres a little strange in it in a weird way levels it out. Cuz. I personally think of fifteen seed beating a two and a seven in a span of forty eight hours is pretty weird, I'm not sure that happens in a normal tournament, but I think this is better pretty abnormal season. A lot of people are, mean a ton of upsets hold on to your seats. God only knows what's going happen, look at where we are now. Are it and it was about as weird as it gets it might be. I'm I'm willing to
but to anything on this one it just whenever we are talking about the bubble in Rwanda side. Your lay a look at my Emmy. Now that is it there is that because of the bubble, or is it because Milwaukee's really easy to defend? So if it's because of the bubble, then people should get off buds case, which I don't think is going to happen. Even though Milwaukee's figured it out- and I know we're going to get to all the NBA stuff here, a little bi later and then the side. You know tardy conferences year its if it were just bubble related then show some beat the Lakers it also so Why the aggravating clippers is pretty well is pretty. There is still up three one. You know you know I I get I could be, I'm just saying I don't know, I'm saying ass it before anybody. This is definitively. Ok is the bubble it's because there in India it's because of these different things. I just saw some teams look better. I mean the nine four Loyola against Dillon I guess: can palms were overall ranking. Had loyal and nights and they are running high sea itself. Everything you watch
play and again in all. If you have the guy who does rakings perfectly I'll, be over here, waiting in the corner, but that seems absurd. But then, when you watch him play you how the house, at I I knew Illinois was done when South picked on the in the tournament that was it kiss of death. Let's talk about Kade Cunningham, because you and I him a lot, and I've now watched multiple games You mean how many games is that two like three and a half? Okay but then pieces of other games, but really like, sat down and watched, and he reminds me a lot of Sean Livingston, which I'm not the first person to say that, because he's that same kind of six slash, eight lanky he's a little thicker than Sean was but same heads always up balls. I was moving, he's always pushing it. I think Sean might have been a slightly better passer.
Get her back, kids a way way way better shooter, but he's got that same little. Pull up six foot, eight shoots over the smaller guy thing at the following that Livingston always had used a leg site arm it, but gives it a fantastic shooter. I think they would. I see, like people talking about how he's a guaranteed franchise offensive, where my fear watching him is he's always in kind of third somewhere between third and fourth gear. But doesn't have that one super explosive thing that I really feel like you need in the NBA, but now you would say alright, LUCA Luca plays at his pace. We've talked about that a lot right where she doesn't want need to blow by he's always gonna get to where he wants to go now, be the argument for kid to three years. From now,
can be guy who just gets to spot, but the guy I'm watching in these games and the guy watch today still can't totally get to wherever he wants to go, and I think if Europe slammed Doug, you can't miss. You are a franchise offensive. Where to me it's like, can I get to whatever spot? I want, I'm not sure one hundred percent see that with him. What I do see is somebody who I think is going to be an unbelievable shooter, and maybe that will be his calling card. But what do you see? We've never really talked about it on the pot. No still most of my draft stuff, I do the two months leading up just because the way to work, so I always feel a little limited talk about it. The guys are brought down one at work, but can I watch probably six games now, he's more he's a better surer than John you right, John was a better athlete mean athlete wise paid is, is not the first thing you with ever missing is a bad arab, but was pretty special for that kind of size
it is being with him is just the moment. He seems to be completely control for somebody, this young and If you watch him in the bail or game in that second half, he justice cannot taken over. You saw glimpses of them going all right here we go and you can see they came out. He hit some big shots, but they were playing zone and some of those posts. Since then, if he had the ball on the screen action, they kept too with him and. Is actually not getting Anthony Edward. You he's just gonna go okay. This is how you doing on the swing it over you and then he had a couple guards miss every three there at the end of the game. Anyway, summing up first bye bye that boy, be it the other yard and histrionic out. Just like I got this, I had a front office this week. As I was, do some of my pocket I haven't done yet. I was like just gimme your top five. In order to see how much variation there is an soap no team is as at anybody. I had a cave there's only one gene that was like look, I kind of like Suggs a little bit more, but I had Team that was very specific about
Katy sailor. I think it's Kate and his own to your than is the next guys and then after five, it's all over the place and the guy said to Sweden it was a great line because about Kate in the first half he goes when we're. About him in the room. It is always what disguise doing the second half! So, if you're telling me like, you feel like he's hosting it in the first half, I tell you an NBA team agrees with you that he's coasting it, but he's still on player of the year and what I saw from him with the way they were defending him. He's gonna defer at times, and it's gonna look like he's passive because he's like, like I'm, not sure, can force against these two guys because we're getting this year made it a big tall, final and nominate trust me, you other guys and in it didn't quite often form but the shooting in his vision and his passing and his comfort is poor In all those things I did just so much more. I've had a text from a coach. The term saw my tweet about him. Saying he's the best play. I ve gone up against five years. Well, yeah that thing I do like about him. Is he?
You know we're in the NBA now two thousand and twenty one where every every team has at least one guy. Who is like ice time for me to assert myself, but I'm clear out here we go He just seems like somebody who he than he really didn't care when that other gap is freezing about, as their horses was on the line. You just a guy, I E. There is state they cut on the horizon pulling. Everyone together like to keep a go and he wasn't like make it. I think I am doing there from branding of Zion, like you know clear out of the way this is by team. Now, none of that stuff, which I like there's an unselfishness to him. I guess my question if I'm building an offense around his skills- and I don't have a lot of other good players on that team- which is always the case when you get get by these crappy teams right. Is this a guy when you think about these other offenses that we have these top ten offenses where they have these
you know there's damn and LUCA Jokic people like that is that a guy who can get to that level because the stuff on reading it's like they're making it seem like he's going to get to that level, and I'm not saying can't, I just don't know hundred percent ca. Yet I want to see him Yeah, but whenever we're talking about somebody at the top other than last year, it's usually, I was kind of look at it like when a guy gets straight. Didn't go forth like this. Guy can make a multiple all starchy she's gonna make multiplied, probably should have gone one rather weak. We. We tend to overrate everybody in the draft in a way you'll do they were saying what have been number one last year in here had been coming out of high school serbian. There there's some real pedigree with them, and I guess that's my point. I'm eyes. I see eighty five percent of it there we go the percentages, but I'm fifteen percent that totally there yet because I dont see that
that kick ass. You know enjoy greater jasmine web down this year, but John and Dame in these people that can just blow by people get to their spots either. That's the one thing I don't proceed with him. Yet in the NBA, with his vision in his handle and being able to pass over the top David, that was the that was deposited with mellow going. You know he figures it out. It's sixty eight and the handle, and the thing that I underestimated with pomelo to is that when he decides he's going, if you're not ready it's over it's over his his just speed, I'm not saying he's the fastest guy in the league. His zero to whatever his acceleration is ridiculous and then that size in, like he's just a special kind of generational passer that were seeing, saw nothing this issue: has those passengers would the spacing the shootings unity surrounded in considering busily everytime runs like I don't know if it's seventy five percent, that's all over some James hyping, unroll just I figure all bring it out. He's gonna beat you if you switch it.
These would be kicking about two guys all the time. So I mean look Lucas so special because his hips in his shoulders and he's still somehow compact with his dribble. You know like big guys that can dribble through traffic like that are pretty rare, and even some of the rocks on it yeah right and Stephen, some of the knocks on harden out of Arizona state you're like okay, I kind of see it, but man he's a little slow and then you realize like wait, he's a six, eleven wingspan and he's just way smarter, and he sees the game better than everybody else. So I can understand some reservations when it looks like he's, referring but he's doing little things in there like there was two place tonight and I'll wrap this Cade part up. He saw the double was coming he's getting double like crazy off the off the screen and they stay with him. And he was like all right enough of this and then he turned down the screen before it even really been set up and then cut and get the elbow and miss the Upr. And then he had another play where he got double the left side in the second half and he had a player that was too close to the screen.
As as saw saw, was about to happen, and he just waved him not off where he wanted is he wanted him to give further away from him so that when he passed it to me to have a better angle set up further from the help- and I was like oh my god but he saw that has a freshman go no catch! This further from me, Gonna have a better angle, and I think that you really special stuff- you seen couch yeah. You mentioned Lamelo. The thing that's been shocking to me He got hurt wherein talk about that later looks like you might be out for the air was how easily he was getting by people and get into the rim. That was the thing I don't know it's just hard to tell from a year of New Zealand Youtube clips that he would have this ability to be people off the dribble, and you now take biased burner and do some sort of one handed twisting lab and just get ever shot. He wants the thing with it ass. I was trying to think like alright, what's the best case scenario here and division stuff and how funny
play what that was one piece, but it was the shooting that I kept coming back to where it's like this guy six, eight most the time he's gonna be guarded by somebody smarter than him, and it looks like he has a chance to below forty five percent three points here and the press with his stroke and just how easy it is, and it's like. If he's open, you feel like it's going in, and I think that maybe that's maybe that's the thing that I need to wrap my head around as just I could this guy be like a dame type of three point: shooter you know, but but six eight yeah. I would. I would watch the second half of the bail game at what I wanna yea. You told me no, I shall- and I watched it. Ok, but are you noticing them the moment for this guy there's something there. There isn't it factor with him where Look it's that to that What does that or deliberate again? I really give if you,
only watch in the tournament go on like wait, a minute. What and give me tugs from Gonzaga who when he's great, it seems more aggressive, and we like guys that are aggressive like that metric kid with bailer Jim gone. He he's got some shit game. You know it were an when I watch mobilise. U s c, two seven who could go to in this draft and you why he would go to, but there's some passiveness. There so I wouldn't ever want to be in a habit of, but you just can't help but notice like whose whose fuckin pissed off there and you're not seen from Kate, and I understand I just think the rest. The stuff is. I don't need you to be met. I think there's also a little shame face theory with him too. Is that fair, or is that done? It's like twenty percent shame face. I think what you have is more aware, Michael Beazley, face No, you know what I like. You know. I, like back, he's one of those guys with NATO
The anecdotes, the announcers or the magazine feature everyone talks about like his presence and what it's like, and just there's something. How is and how competitive it is, and you read enough of those little tidbits and usually those are accurate. They don't happen often well don't go out of their way to be like hey, disguise, different, here's a story and it does seem. I guess I can we play a little game called. What's he would be the most he most funding for Kid Cunningham, together with their civic skill, set yeah, ok, not download candidates that the house none of these is realistically. I shall give you the bottom foreign. Each in each conference. Can that would have that fun wizards, I feel for him yeah. I feel bad from that one, Orlando that could
good imagine Orlando staff they'd, be like wait. We got a tall guy that can shoot at we've done this three times. This guy can actually make these and look I'm not, but- sure but Bruges etc. I met Laszlo Berliner guys yet these perimeter, guys that are tall, a cell the other ones. The trade who has nobody saw Orlando would be the most fun out of the out of it and the balls as a wild card or be probably the highest upside fund, but that that they would have to get really lucky other side, Oklahoma, City, Sacramento, Sacramento. Amid I I don't know what they will do. Their absence is taken. Maybe starch happened. Somebody Houston, I think, would be the worst case scenario because their love, anybody and then I was thickened Minnesota with. However, it is like the last couple of weeks and towns in sight
you know they have to basically figure out what they ought to do with Russell, but Minnesota, I think, would be the most fun West team. It would, and I feel great for Minnesota fans that Edwards, at least through the stretch you go. Okay, we have something here. He can't shoot it it's, it's they go in sometimes, and we knew how to Georgia has shot selection you're, like woe, ok, you're pillar from there, and I think, he's dead back down like thirty, which is crazy ass. He was, he was actually low thirty percent of Georgia, like eight or nine attempts again, I'm eating care, but once you get to the who, like he's big and quick enough, so there's something there, but hate here go for it. You know he had forty other arrogance Phoenix spreading. He took thirty shots at ease. He is lighting it up, which I kind of can't wait to see what happens. Digital Russell comes back.
Gas in Brussels, gonna! Be it so then, when you throw Kate into that, I don't know man. I don't because I just to act like Edwards is a ball initiating player Russell. Is that in the worst version of it in a is, is pretty telling. I would almost like what would you do tell those guys here, you're playing off of him you'd have to, but then I don't know they Edwards may be as a cutter. It would be sick, but I don't think It is in a hurry to start, don't like fourteen fifteen shots again, even though again this month as a positive, at least you know, there's some stuff there. That's really special with him. I guess the dream scenario be neurons. Yeah but then we wouldn't get to see point Zion anymore yeah, but I, I think, he's little
HAL Burton where he doesn't necessarily need to have the ball at the time. You know he's not one of those I have to dribble the ball. Sixteen seconds per possession guy yeah! No, that's fair! You know the Edwards thing. You're right he's gone for. Another Lamellous out, he's gonna be really gone for it. Is the repeal of the year, is that like inconceivable, that he can still this now to be really hard for the melody when playing only forty against the thing with Edwards Athletic Lee. He does some stuff words like a. If you just reading guys want the Tangiers I purifiers isn't he's gotta, be at least like at nine point, two nine point: three right: it there's just some stuff: he could do physically. That is a leap illegally like us.
Super elite ridiculous elite, and that's why, even when he was terrible in the beginning of the year, there would be these plays and you would get forward on this clip of watch him just go flying by this guy and dunking over two guys in the baseline he'd, be like all right. This guy's, not a bus. This is not Anthony Bennett, there's something here and now it seems like he's finally putting it together, which is nice I'll, tell you I don't know if you've noticed this when they be like, I figure they lose the phoenix in the rematch. I have this theory about the team that loses in the first game the split coming back, although the pacers got both against Miami watching that one today, but they beat Phoenix, they straight up beat them earlier this week and that's when when went nuts and we used to talk about on, sounds as they easily all first team miserable and doesn't look, he looks like he's a Leeson Joanna tellingly Minnesota figured it all out their awesome, because they're still pretty bad defensively. Been bad again this month, but just seen towns not miss,
The the whole game is, is you know, look towns has his limitations too, but but he still, terrific player and he still really young, and they get always worry about. That of your timber was fan with it, but he just looks a little bit happier, but I'm really worried about what the tangible Russell return will look like four Edwards in all this there is a russian just thinks he's gonna go. I saw all time, which is basically what he's been then it it just sucks to play with you now number one. We like that Russell Trade further warriors and people gave a shit, Then we like to act as if they were airs. Now we look, they shouted the asset that was it. I just cite the pic and, if weakens, could end up being close to award with Russia that was the bonus and now a year later, especially if they got the kid Cunningham pick and Russia would have to be somebody they now have to shop or turn into a six. That would be unbelievable, you're losing a pic annual,
the guy who you don't even know if he fits your future and I myself would be ridiculous. Do you go real, quick? I think I'll quit that that's a great example of also the Chris Paul Westbrook Trade, where the market said you had to include a Peck that's that's only top three protected this year to move Wiggans to get Russell. And now, if you just went around and said who would you rather have Wiggans Russell, I think you rather have Wiggans, like he's he's revivers yourself here at all he's. Not he's not gonna be superseded could be what you hope in early on, but he's definitely better. I think, is right. Basketball and more engaged basketball during the stretch, so that is the example of not even I don't know a year later, you're goin look at how much them is changing that Chris Paul Westbrook Perfect, like you to throw in all this stuff to take on Chris Paul.
And then a year later, the only guy you could trade west before was John Wall. Have a look at both of those trades, you have terrible front office as owners making trades for wrong reasons right, Houston, making that West Bird trade, because for a reason we decided, we need to listen the heart and this will be hard and once that's not a good reason for a trade, you should never listen to player in a major move. Where you give me a pix Minnesota, he was hey towns and Russell or buddies. We got to we gotta keep towns happy. So you just sign towns, tat gift ass. For four years we have to sacrifice Pixar Europe happy winning we were wondering of towns would set the record for longest time left on his contract as precarious edge I'm sorry. I can't wait for somebody to have three plus get him Stephen Jack, kind of already has an award yeah could be where it take a break
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even it's bad too to it looked bad like you can see where it turns high and he's always one. When he's hurt like he's going to, let you know he's dinged up. This was excessive and then he hit free or somethin afterwards to it, and it was like I M out of here. You know, they're, not playing for seeding. Davis thing is still in the timeline in that felt like it was just go on, for and the crazy thing I found a number. I don't know it was this week, but most shots. Attempted four seconds are left to the shock clock in La Braun at the most the actually still had a really good shooting percentage from both distances. Where does require that that on a website, I've got a program to sort through the stuff. Oh man, because I always felt like. How does it gets that hard, that one would be an mba and then the advanced stuff that that, when I might be able just send your linked to, I don't think that's subscription one.
I was felt like that- should be factored into people's percentages and stuff. She figure. If you take a hundred shots, you somebody like Leubronn. At least nine of the hundred are terrible. Shots were two seconds up in the shock. Cause you're the guy, your team, who could have far away- and there is, as I read through the Lakers, I don't use taken nine of those a game and I mean resist unbelievable. Their headed off duty still is hitting I'm so glad back your region point well, you know you because we in the committee this too, and this package will have talked about the envy pay. It's always find the brackets her and. Almost the narrative immediately switches sues: Yoke, Gm Vp and then everybody has her fifty conversations which, by the way, we're gonna have in about five minutes. But I I defaulted on my head till I could they fought over sixty and if they felt it was succeeded,
what could that mean so right now you toss one thousand three hundred and eleven Phoenix twenty eight thirteen Lakers, two thousand eight hundred and fifteen clips twenty seven and sixteen and then Portland Denver, but twenty five and seventeen. So it really like if it's a three week tailspin and they don't do while they could Father is sixty. You know, I think the deck was stacked against them anyway, with the with this is a big so close to the bubble play outside shared how hard that was everything but if they don't have home court in any of these rounds during a plus. When I think we're going to have fans in Lebron, you know pretty famously said how he won the two toughest titles tat has ever. I would argue if you're gonna die. Have home court in any round when we actually have fans that would be just as tough, if not tougher than the two, that he said, we're the toughest ever yeah and it also feels like with Phoenix being better and Utah, despite their odd stretch here again and you
can't tell you don't know if every really good team other than those warriors teams losing three in a row is unheard of, but you shall have it TIM game stretches not that weird, the Lakers, almost none of it matters when I watched because our sky, fine, they can't shoot. Now I ve been I've. Anthony Davis he's gotta coasting it's still a better team on paper. The role and more defined crews, was clearly more comfortable in the craziest thing about Rondeau in and watching him not be that river. The land is like. I can't believe this guy was argued, like the third best offensive player for this Lakers T last year, every sitting spot up, you know, wrote like swing. The week side he opened freeze is just run. It was unbelievable in that place on so I'm with you that I mean, I guess, there's some level that I have to find concern for, but I'm just I'm just not going to. Even even through the succeed I don't know we ve taken against them, because let's Araby Labour, but if Davis's in a hundred percent sure fine,
but I'm just I'm going by if those guys are ready- and it looks pretty good the last couple weeks and they roll in they can be exceeded and probably still gonna pick em unless you TA gets back to what I what I thought they were, but I'm not going to get down on them because of some of the stuff, that's been a little loose for them lately. At some point, we're going to have to have a phoenix conversation, because I think tonight's, a good example they're playing the Lakers tonight. It's a game, a good team should win. It's in the Celtic absolutely would have lost like oh easy, one, no Lebron, no Davis. We got this wait. Why are we down twelve in the second quarter, and you just turn on the game in Phoenix is up fifteen and it's like yeah. This is a team that knows what it's doing.
Like they're getting better. I really wonder if they're, if they even need to make a trade deadline, move, my guess is they'll, probably roll with what they have. But when you look at the six I think Dallas is coming. Finally, you could see it tonight like they demolish Portland tonight, but they've they had their best five for for a couple weeks. I don't know what they'll do they have the James Johnson contract they'll definitely do something do something, but they have their five and LUCA he's the luck. The from you know six eight months ago, he's in shape, I guess would be the best way to say it, but I think you have seven good teams in the west. And I think everybody's probably relieved if you're in the playoffs that New Orleans just cannot get their shit together, ions incredible. Nobody wants to see that did a play offers, but they're, probably not going to have to worry about yeah it. They
Ergo sum thirty, three thousand three hundred and twenty two, not thirty, six percent from three, which you can clearly tell with him. It's just. He just has more comfortable it's more of a weapon for him and, the great ones, find ways to adjust the weather being defended and knew he was always exist. Some guy So say: oh, you know, he'll figure and figure. It out think we say on way too many players with who can't shoot like this. Just sometimes just never quite figure it out, but it's one seem to find a way and you write Dallas the acid I getting ethics, I have yet give it getting with six. Our planet six have containers in the west there, the half but though be there so you wait. You were strong enough and Alice. You would see them coming out of the west, no I'm saying we have six afghan tenors. I think we have six and I think they're the half, because I think it any series I could see them just get hot winning forgave summer games eight day makes me hesitate for, but either just so bad on defence. When they need to be better,
that they just are never healthy either. So I did some Lebron research this morning, as I sat in a hotel room with my store and daughter Lebron had the growing injury in two thousand nineteen. He had the angle. In this weekend in any of that weird thing, his first Cleveland season when he came back in one thousand four hundred and fifteen when he took the two weeks off, but he was really injured. It was like a fatigue, injury, whatever was going on there but was that supposedly his back, though, was as bad as like a little hack, but it was almost like he needed a vacation, the numbers, so I didn't realize this. He was sixty one minutes away from
thousand regular sees a minute. Is at forty, nine, nine, thirty, nine any point: ten thousand eight hundred and eleven plan minutes which puts them in the sixty k, minute club, which is him and carried him and calm alone, and that's it he's played seventeen years, he's only Miss ten percent of the season twice in two thousand and fifteen and two thousand they did every other season. He played ninety percent of the gates. Thirteen hundred six regular season games, twenty first, two hundred
the plan games. First, there's only six. Fifty k Regular sees a minute guys ever he's one of he's gonna be one of the seventh when it happens when he gets the extra sixty minutes, there's only been eight. Seventy five hundred plan minutes guys he's the only one who's got. The ten thousand were really gets crazy if you start comparing into his peers. So he said he said just about fifty Carmelo played forty one thousand minutes regular season it with ours played thirty, eight Dwight Howard's by thirty eight cp, three point thirty seven and will Marcus
display. Thirty five, so he's played basically twenty percent more regular season minutes than anyone his leg and then, if you compare them to like you know the playoff minutes, KD played five thousand five hundred and ninety eight playoff minute, so he's played almost five thousand more than that. It would always played five thousand one hundred and thirty four playoff minutes. You play double that, basically, those other people in his class there. The durability, I think, is the thing a hundred years from now that people are going to be drawn to when they look at his basketball reference page over everything else. Over the title, the envy that fight that it has got to the point that when he gets hurt its legitimately shocking way and that play yesterday, we how many times do we see that by a basketball where the guy's jumping for the loose by
as he's doing you're going. Oh god, no don't blow out his acl. Like it feels like it could happen one hundred times with Lebron. He has just always been able to dodge place like this. This is the one time he didn't, but it got me like God, damn it shouldn't be like shocking when somebody sprains or ankle he's the most shocking injury guy I've ever followed in sports, which just seems indestructible anyway, we've made these points before, but I just wonder if this is some sort of moment, we'll look back at where he's seventeen years in is, is logged a shitload of minutes now he's got a bad wheel, and is this something where the building starts to tell a little bit in our? site the infrastructure, Finally, a little bit shaken, it's gonna be really hard for him. The next couple years is my point. He's he's already has an insane about a mile zone
Why wouldn't you have and looked all of this? This isn't a counterpoint to any of it, but If you live with him, he just give up like you, give up trying to give and making this year, because it doesn't make any sense that from that draft class, this guy like? Has anyone ever been drafted where we're retorted eighteen years since. Drafted. Twenty one, o three yeah be eighteen years, this giant right enemies. Play who's ever arguing anybody's better than him right now. Is any player ever we'd have to go back to look it up, but I cannot fathom there's. Any player has ever been drafted in ten years later. If you were to say somebody else is better than him. You'd be wrong and we've done it. Curry's had better seasons, I think even the strongest caribbean ass to realise their stuff. Leubronn can do that that courage, it can do in uplifting. Art Kai. I know I flirted with like look at Peco why here man, it's unbeliev, verbal and ran
you're like Ireland. The red unfortunately gets overlooked alive to quickly because it was like a short peak where he thought maybe was going to get the throne, and then he didn't. I think it had. Moments were relate age, a more mobile but with the play off exits now he's gonna do that anymore? So here we are twenty one where I don't think, there's a great argument anyone being better than he is and the fact when he's had subpar, regular seasons and behind other individual your players and then it comes playoff time. You, like yep, he's still the best don't know that we're ever gonna see anyone. I don't know that we've seen anyone or we'll ever see anyone eighteen years later be the undisputed king of his leak. Well, imagine if I came on did you have a show in two thousand and three we were on the zone at that point yeah. You came on the zone, but if I came on the zone after that draft- and I was like Here'S- a prediction- eighteen years from now, Lebron will have played fifty thousand minutes and eleven thousand playoff minutes and he'll still be in the VP.
Fish bark by words, you really what what would be like what would be more unbelievable than that big of of many being drafted number one. I mean if you had said: hey TIGERS, gonna, challenge Jack Major, that's more believable as he became a professional golfer no. I know one would have believed you. It is absurd to even think of it now and that's why they're just moments where I try to remind myself that weird can it be when he or she looks like he sucks ray Do you know, I wonder, be gonna you, like you're man, he's man he's not lose already happened. It was supposed to already happen the times are their little warnings were felt. His game was morphing in ways. You look out, there's decline there. Oh look free, throw attempts array of some of these. Always outside Martin. Now he was just dictating the terms of the way he wanted to win games. That was it, and even this
He was just an accident. It wasn't anything at it. You know, I don't think it's related any minutes or any of that we see physically. I was leg burn that said, hi one he's confused, that's going to hurt for a while, but this sit out of those sixty thousand minutes. You think You should have like seven, eight of those complete scare, fluky scare things right some place where you're landing on a dunk and somebody's foot. Underneath you think the fact that he's been able those, the other guy, who is always able to avoid those car, I'm alone, who didn't really get hurt to their final Lakers season and then the third one was cream whose in their minutes cub Karim never had that one year it's like, he broke his hand, punching campaigns and that's the only time he missed a significant amount of time Anything like alright. What are those three guys have in common other than their physical freaks? They, you know, spend it in, an amount of time taken care of their bodies. Karim was doing all that Yoke
shit and he was people thought he was like a crazy person you now he was doing seven thoroughly eighties. People like what is this guy doing, Oh martial arts. Seventy year. Oh you Don T, yoga cereal seed, nuts and then alone is like really the first weight training guy who kind of resembles with the Mana guys are like. So I guess it's like you must, when you turn your body during a machine like that, you could almost absorb injuries like you're like a marvel superhero, so I'll be right. I can't wait to see how long it takes him to come back from this because they were. This is a form of four five. We can truly read how long was jammer in up Germany, the cemeteries have like five weeks goes out for a while, and he really hasn't been the same since he came back even though even those back to back where games like I don't know honey, I'm flattered, I'm not gonna make a prediction: I'm never gonna doubt the guy and there might be imagined
play off time. Where I go all right, maybe I like somebody a little bit better, but after what that guy did last year and how good he's looked and the fact that he's played the spending minutes again remember when we were doing the over unders, I was like oh they'll coast. They want it they'll coast and this guy's not coasting he's, not I think he wants the Mvp. I think he wants one more, I think, he's pissed, because in the past it was like. Oh, I don't play. Eighty two, aims as like it when the BP, when we ve, got over the individual seasons and its advantages, The argument made thinks he does at least with thinks he does. But I felt like that's kind of what this year was gearing up for and also your Mvp thing, because now, with this injury and the bead injury jokers in it, but is going to be back in it which seemed impossible. When you start thinking about voter storyline stuff, like all right after these play effect like nobody's gonna, want vote for his guy again. If you're gonna use the leading score in a lake, but then it's scene. Was rolling and in her, crushed it, which is still we're without direct feels, like they're, just doing a Houston thing for the most part, the just
Tey'Re just running, but everybody seems to like it more now in Brooklyn. If I'm a rocket fan, I'm like wait. You guys shit on us for years, and now you like it like what are you talking about, but that's true yeah, but I mean it's actually. You know shouted to the rocket science. It. Let me so much, but I'd I'd be kind of annoyed that, surely we? U geyser break this knowledge with what he has talked about, but lizard to be brought up. Willard has to be brought, especially where the odds were. I saw recently because he's that team doesn't play defense and his job step back three bill. I think most lethal individual like shot move in the league. It's quick! It's compact! The ball is out: it's not some massive jumping backwards, travel like some other guy, it's just a quick jab at you, and then he just gets just enough space and it's up, and over in you and he's pissed off everybody, and I think you know whatever this conversation means hey, how come you're not talking about this guy, which can be annoying as you like. Alright, fine I'll talk about your guy who was going to lose the Mvp, I think, there's a real
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Your next oil change find yours at Castrol com. Alright, we're calling this Mvp watch. I think part of the problem with this season is we've already anointed four Mvps and there's like of the season left. You know the Mvp is right. Now nobody, it's okay! We don't have to do the thing like you know if it ended right now, get onto your head, you'd, say Lebron, but now he's going to miss the weeks and then you'd say all right. Maybe Yokich is con bit it's okay, that we don't have a favor yet, but I was thinking there have been a couple of years in history, where kind of we just didn't, have an mvp, and then they had to vote for somebody right. That's how Bill Walton won that year when he broke his foot, where I think he played fifty eight games, something like that and the other two doing this off top of my head, the other two guys, I think we're giving and David Thompson, and I just Walton that was the most important team. They were
fifty and ten when he played and ever is like fuck it, even though he missed a third of the season or for the season we're still voting for him. They voted for I received was the only other ones since then, who has missed at least ten percent of the season and when they have you pay so any myth eleven games, so the bran valleys misted today was the second game he missed. So it is basically Miss two and a half short schedule. I think you probably have to play at least I don't know if five thousand and fifty nine sixty games to be considered and that's when, when you made that damn point before James just been steady right, that teams had been decimated by injuries the Mccallum thing. If anyone speak, the Celtics lost Jalen for a month and a half. I can imagine how bad it was. Oh, my god they doesn't look good now with them. Yeah and James just been steady, so you're,
he should be in there. I have the ads yoke edge, move two plus one ten. There are twenty five and sixteen he has missed a game. This is averaging: twenty seven, eleven and nine. I mean have an awesome season and be the broader plus five fifty yards. This is unfair and oh yeah. This is put some fifty Gardner, one thousand one hundred and one and Lucas lurking at one thousand, eight hundred and one so the funny thing is if this season was just happen in a vacuum we would say: Giannis is being VP right now, with nobody's gonna be Africa books. But if, if you didn't know he won the last year, nobody wanted to vote for him again. He said is tat. The same year had the other two years. Any playing on one of the six best teams and he hasn't missed a game. And walk you through entered a violent queerer than regret. Any dramatic areas by everyone else there on what are their third, their third or fourth in defence this month You honest is saying everybody's overlooking this is like yeah man. That's what happens
it was new and exciting and in you guys been delivered now people are already sick. You before DEC they've only been around a couple of years as far as like a legitimate playoff threat and people have already turned the page on it. So that's what happened you're right this year. If this riana is first year like this, and they were a five her team before this, and he what you know he's around twenty one points a game than was having this kind of year, and this is his break out year. He'd, when it yes knock on it is that in an yoke edge shoe, I would have thought I yoke is the doors but open, destroy nor allowance. That idea thing here, Good game is like twenty nine September. They lost in a whirl and say was odd, even though he was eighty like us. Nobody can grab this envy p. That Lebrun has now dangled so me, while the bran he's gonna be sleep it in his hyper bear chamber, he's gonna be doing crier therapy.
He'll be doing everything you can he'll, probably be back in like four days we'll be like wow. That was dumb and Lebron. I felt like he was going to win before this happened, but it's been that kind of year. Sometimes it happens. I remember in two thousand and eleven when rose one, we didn't have enough VP that years I've, neither the Miami guys we're gonna win. Nobody was voted for the broad awaiting the ok, see guys we're ready, Derek and he just went and it was like. Alright, we got to vote for somebody and then everybody talk themselves in a Derek rose, including myself. That's how it works, yeah, and it was going to happen last year with Leron and then the season got shut down. I really think that, even though there was a couple of metrics or anus was far ahead of Lebron, how about the zag, though? How about some of the super supportive Lebron vote
is gone. His Lakers T look about the record is without a bone form, do not diminish, not diminish the reach. All this is done is proven that this lake or state was. It is good We thought yeah, you know who's keeping together Libras. You know in a year where there's not a real true number one, I'm going to give it to Lebron. It's a career cheap in a word by the way this isn't. I bet he gets a couple, a number one votes. If he comes back in ten days, I still think he's, probably the favourite actually the ads drop to low cost. Kayak austrian people just assume that five weeks, but they they forget who were dealing with their he will, wherever it there's some sort of scientific thing for him to do. That involves freezing the act and you know pouring orange is, and the hemoglobin of young children or whatever he needs to do is fix that fixed at icon, he'll be back in the court
right now of Mario Chalmers ends up dead. It missing ligaments within his leg. I'm not I'm just gonna say recitals yes says: yeah yeah, like I've worked at a better, fairer but by stem cells. Are God yeah. That's it. I feel it is right to say it is just that way, good, how many people over the past few days and said hey reseller. Why haven't you talked about Leubronn, owning the Red Sox, anybody anything a law. I mean the guys in Boston. Don't own means it would This mean Now- and I was probably nothing yeah, it's okay. Do you know who the 18th high estate owner on the Celtics has cuz? That's what we're talking about here we're talking about, like I don't know, what's a zero point, five percent of the Red Sox's still there
on the Red Sox, so that yeah, that was definitely people were in a hurry to be like okay. This is the only major league baseball franchise like well, and I know as part of an investment group that arises small stake that doesn't actually decide what happens with the team. Now I don't know the fund, numbers were because its Fenway sports Group were Malta things so that no I don't an order means its great it's great that we can have a younger generation, more diverse in ownership, a united that is really really four percent I'd want only people. It was like the Jersey thing. When parliament you re had let's yeah, he was too the headline of you, like you just bought the Red Sox. You're. Ok would be really can begin we'll be back then listen. I was out completely Jos, it sounds great sounds like a great thing to be, like yeah stake in the Red Sox, what a cool thing to tell people, but you know he's I never lordly that soccer its racing. It's all. May I ask you know so:
I mean I know you already know that you're just think. Do you figure I mean I imagine this point. You probably get approached by a minority. You got an awful minority October. I don't either Zanger resting everybody call as shown up swear, they rely on a piece of the South X ray now be so mad. We admitted shady like what are we doing now, but they like. Timber levy. Psmith greatly is paid fifty five minutes today, this court poets. What are we doing cause nobody great Zeb baseline sees the timber Wolf Game right and as soon as the game is over. The look report. Interviewing you and you're, just like I don't know what the hell we're running, these coaches You know, I'm not holding a great way of thy Woodhouse Nigh would set screens. We did this in our pickup Jane, and this is I would just be like corn. This is what has to used to do thirty years ago. Just hold hold on just this one thing:
and then you'd be calling teams that you have contacts with being like hey Jared cover. Did I get a top fourteen perfected and then they would just guys be like hey. How big was this check get him out of here? It would be like Bill Simmons on the phone again. He wants to talk about Malik Monk. I just want to see if you made any calls about the like today market in what, if you called about marking in today, Zach Low would be on tv before the trade deadline and you'd be like well, I can tell you what Minnesota is doing. I actually would not leak, I'm anti leaking, I'm not a legal. I would die, I don't think you would you would like yeah. I agree with it Will you be I'd? Be I'd be brutal, like this ethics situation, that I would be losing murmured Debbie Laddie, I sent a lot of long emails with bullet points, and then I would sign my name and all caps at the bottom of the you would change the fund
size for the way that you really want to make specific some thoughts about how this swing man situation can continue that that that That is the great you could say like this. Fourth pour it reminds me when Wahlberg shows up to the house and fear at the end, and you know that you're defence is good enough to resist it. What did you do? then system good enough to win the game will make me think what if Leubronn really got into this red Sox thing. In my garden, a baseball was set in notes about ah Would you go there has only? Why have we tried him in centres? Is his defence of war is really good as targeted maverick about it today, Edwards, a sale coming back. I think I was thinking about how we should use it on itting. Maybe some five inning starts started off or like hey, you know what if clutch starts repping
baseball players, as could be amazing. Oh my god, although I appreciate the NBA track record further Celtics clutch, It doesn't seem to be a destination for that organisation. So I don't know how that would be for baseball. Does that was said about labelling the mellow fractured his rest? It seems he said, he's gonna a second opinion. I'm not sure what that means. I don't know when he shot the free throne and immediately hurt it's jacked up devastating. That was my favorite. I mean they were. Something what about, but that was still I really like that team. That was my favorite mediocre team.
And now you know they could fill as minutes. It might mean more time for my guy mock, but I just hate losing young guys when they feel like they're becoming such such a time where he, where he was just really a really special. Certainly season certainly way better than I don't know. I don't feel like it's enough for it's enough for the year, so it does seem like Edwards can possibly grab this. Maybe Haliburton of Albert had a strong last twenty games, but, more importantly, from a trade deadline. Standpoint Charlotte was one of the themes. I was really watch it cause. I felt like that was a team to have a clear problem at the five with the gas ehlert eyebrow or washed in playing base got a position as a fire, but it was there. That's a team that connect go out and get somebody that kid's fix that problem and maybe they being shaken up laughs areas, but now without him I don't see. How do you see it.
Well, there's a weird thing with LA mellow, though, that I dont know that it's a hornets fans will know this, but you'd have to be. Hardcore Lamelo got to figure this out, and I, like you, watch them a lot, because I want to see some of the stuff that I didn't see when I watch them in Australia. They take them out in the key moments. The game right. You, I've learned, Irene, yeah, I've got back and and there significant eyes. I mean I don't wanna. Have I've gone back and looked at it? It was like two weeks games where he d the star. Did he come out at the minute mark and then maybe he'd come in for the law so there's a couple of times where we came in for like possession offensively, then he'd be sub back out, but I'm telling you there were large chunks of when the game was in the balance where he wasn't on the floor, because every defensive screw up starts him. Certainly always bearing says that this is a unique there are generally,
was telling you. I don't know that anybody else, as mentioned this and, of course it turns into like. Oh well, you didn't like them that much for the no. I didn't like what I saw. No, we love them all the NBA label, all in love. I love at the weird thing is- and I said this in my pot is like he had such little respect for his australian teammates that it factored in that I didn't realize he should have for the NBA he's like. No, these guys are good yeah. To be able to be a team. With these guys is opposed. Is to just comes in, and fires horrible shots in Australia, but he didn't play great events before I don't care about defensive stuff, but the fact that their competitive, there are even competitive last year with what I thought was probably were the worst fives you would throw out there. I mean you rarely look at all those close games they had, and so they they also they closed really well. So it's not a constant. He would bring Luella back into some spots large shocks there in the fourth, but another go it ever. Impact is rookie the year and is say are, I will now they're probably done. I don't know I mean: are they? Are they gonna be
done because now, Graham, who needs the ball to be what he was before and there's been pretty good, I mean they can kind of run. Then Haber can kind of initiate your office there too. So I'll be curious to see what happens here. The stature good he's been trip, he shot at way better than he ever has whether was Lithuania, Australia, high school. He shot better the NBA level, which is crazy because it still takes him shot. You like woe, but I dont know if it's a defensive thing where what if they would They stay at the same record and close the same way. I don't know what the answer will be there, but it's a real thing that I think horns and is like yeah. That's right. They take him out. I looked at it this way. I thought the strength of that team. The reason I enjoyed them was they always had good cards out, no matter what point in the game. It was right where you look at like the Celtics on the side where it's like that's great when brown and Tatum altogether, but what happens when one of those guys leaves the lineup, then it's a year you falling off a cliff was Charlotte is just like. Whoever was out there puts the Heyward thirty two bit answer then miles bridges.
And I need everyone's the wound. He would get on it just seemed they had a lot of guys doing stuff, and I thought the totality of that was what made them interesting stages remove one of those guys yeah they could get by without him, but I like that fatality piece, and I also think that I'm not saying they're going to be better, I'm just pointing out a very specific in the fourth quarter. I'm just pointing out what I liked about them. So yeah you're right. He was it like Memphis losing Jamoren no, but I thought their back court was just really different, like they would have. Devante Graham, would come in off the bench and, and so with quarters and either could win a game road. They had all these different guys who could actually leg care them across time even mark. So I dont like lose that the other thing with the east You look like in Atlanta made a run, there's a lot of reasons for that is that an aim winning streak, but they really that I know would make bright eyed. I know a name that
Saying in hit yet Nate now so Atlanta is in the forest. Then it goes. Miami Boston, the next suggest every game lose by a point in an agonising. Where were they don't get a car Charlotte? Indiana Chicago and Toronto is still in the eleven spot in Toronto. Seventeen and twenty five there's three games behind everybody read out for the tense, be ten seed and with trade that nine coming Thursday, and I think that I persuaded that the team that should be a seller will see if you know, they're documents, trade just to trade, but I kind of like that group of based. From Atlanta through Toronto? You could tell me any those teams could go on and ain't no streak. I wouldn't be shocked. Look. I'm not shocked that Atlanta when their last eight. Are you a little, but you realize in March they have the second best defence in the NBA Bind Philadelphia. Philadelphia is like off the charge,
and everybody else defensively, and that's why you ve without be. They still have this. This really good record. Even Brooklyn's. Only a game behind and Milwaukee is only two behind it Lana winning a row, and it happening because of their defence is surprising those lighting it up as somebody who is looked unplayable at times, but they were gonna play and has spent money on was genoa when he's here the hell out of the bow, and there were times watch him going. What does he do? But what does he do? We just stands out there. He doesn't do much off the durable and you look at the numbers cigar I will now is now is hit shots all the time at all. Against Miami it start with without Miami Win Betray had an awful game care in Salzburg. You took three thirty footers in a row hit em all and it was gained in tray one that game in like a two minute span, and when I looked at the defensive numbers,
on the splits and saw them at number two behind Philadelphia. I couldn't believe they. It got Collins going a little bit lately too, and Collins has been thrown around in these trade murmurs, which I don't understand. It are the last thing I that believe that update me he's been available for ever and is filling his eye was caution myself and undoing this gazelles gets out created. Is stuff that you're here and you're like whenever, but it just it seems like warmed the idea of. Let's see what happens with the sky. Ok yeah. There seeding right now, even turned out ninety million the qualifying offer him is really low, which also makes him attractive as trade ship, but You know what you ve been losing for a long time down in Atlanta. He may not be perfect, he's gonna
Some plays you're right. You know he's gonna want the ball little bit more, maybe with all that often of weapons. And indeed, if you look at the rostrum on its healthy, like looks like ask and may shots in esteem. It feels like with the ownership mandate which Lloyd Pierce is a casualty. In the front off, is probably a little worried about it. That the sense around the league on Collins feels, like you know what he's been more available than he is now. If that makes sense, not saying it's impossible for me to trade it, but you could kind of make sense of the whole thing of like you know what. Maybe we just run with these guys and we still we could still figure out and sign him in the off season. Even if we don't love a player, but here's what they have coming up at clipper add Sacramento, echoes Data Denver. Add Phoenix at San Antonio at New Orleans here will see then yeah. That's so the donor prettier hawks Eastern conference shaping banner, but look at it. The east. I think the playing games
east that seven, ten, eight nine, all that stuff is gonna, be really go because all these teams are fun to watch. All them like even in in and revert back and that seems kind of fallen into place through that teams also going to be. You know, a knotty trade that nineteen them unprepared for any they were there and then the ball see how they can hang with anybody next same thing. This ethics, ironically, are probably the most pressing of that whole group right that had another team meeting over the weekend they beat Orlando today is because they made a whole bunch of trees. They make a bunch of trees and a game. Sagoths ethics. They fixed it
They are not really it's a team that I didn't get the free for alarm. Didn't I have a badge and if the threes don't go in, there is not really a plan b and the Cumber not be able to pay back. The backs really really hurts them, because they just don't have enough good player so I'll enjoy the east. I think this has been. The east has always been proud of the black sheep of the two conferences year after year after year, and this is the first time where I feel like from an entertainment standpoint. There there right there posted in Brooklyn as the best satellites writer TAT would make sense, because the Davis Injury now, adding on to and yeah it's just nuts that they're they're rolling like this, and it's and it's still oh by the way they get to ramp back. Let me do what We run through on this because I'm with you on the east, the wizards are better. Now they have been a brutal start, their brutal stretch but Westbrook
has been mean some of Westbrook shooting numbers when monthly break. It was at one point I think. Last month, Westbrook was fifteen percent from three he's. Forty two, from every so maybe I have it here. What's briskly point, shooting month to month, less room January. Forty one percent February, fifteen percent March forty two percent of the over Now is the american oil per cent? How is that possible. Don't allow hurried I'd even conceivable Well, I'm not anybody knew what its Westbrook looking at the splits yeah well Jesus yeah me he was still seventeen point four percent. He was taken less that money, which was what terms his his season around last year's. We stop taken threes and the like was wide open, so is basil wizards a ban at times defensive
not really interested in the rotation they actually fought with the nets today and look Westbrook is going to get up for those games. We saw how much you get up for the grant and that game is going to get up for harden and that kind of stuff. I thought one of the highlights today was Nick Laxton, pushing G. And like pushing amount away, and then it was even in the play- and I was just like Nick Classes- absolute feeling- self right. Now, if you like, this is easy leagues, easy. It's gonna be freed dunks all the time. This is Us wizards at least feel like uncertain nights, a bit of tougher out, despite the fact the overall wrecking and then, when you lose any games the covered in the middle of it, and you have new pieces of hearing again Everybody knows, I'm not team Executive Westbrook over eventually stood. I do attorneyship, never mixing sense, a clean
Toronto. Toronto last eight in a row, Toronto's defense is so bad and actually we'll get to the cell, because I have a quote selfexpression for you. Their defense is the worst in March. Is one hundred and twenty points allowed for one hundred possessions? They got everybody back for the Cleveland Game and they still lost that one. But can play three games this month. Let three games Og only two games, so I don't know what to do with them. I don't know: what's gonna Larry, it seems of teams, would love to figure it. Reach thirty, five years, older thirty five. This week cargo, I'm with either fun. The patient. Avert thing actually scares me little bit because a reception with the rustle Dinwiddie Laverne thing where they are, they all carried the same nets Jean. Where is talent? Is there I often suppliers there. They have no ignoring everybody else, so I think the lavert fit they've won three in a row, but I mean shoot. It felt like a couple of weeks ago, the pater of four see. So let me ask it is about the self a seed on light, delivered T J, weren't playing on the court together, fit.
I like adding guys that can score, but I just want you at some point to realize. There are other guys that can score, and so robbing gonna shoot less now is a gonna shoot less and they ran you know they got the heat they blew They got him in overtime today, but ran like they were trying to attack here. All the time is numbers In decline as we look at his shooting numbers lightly, he was at the killers was for four. Sixteen today he's he's averaging seventeen again, but he's a third reading score, but he's not had agreed seventeen a game at night, three for the way he seems issued rights. I always with the whole reason I did that if you're still wondering why bill- I don't I say this about teams, especially when I dont know right. I'm not none of us travel teams, we don't know, but there's like a void with Celtics team that I can't figure out their soft. I dont want to say it, but that's the word I keep thinking up. I can't you can call a team softer that we're not caught them like a bunch of pussies. They
is play soft. They don't get to the free, throw line, teams, push them around. You see a guy like Rashan Holmes comes in and just like feast on them, and they have nobody that can fight back. Smart was their tough guy, but smart no bene shell of himself since he got hurt. Today was the first game, the Orlando game, the first game he started to look like Marcus, but Marcus is like the badass on the team. The team is it's just like a ass, a team of the guys that dont really talk about I'm wondering when they're gonna be mad like what are you guys been mad about it and they haven't. They never seem to be mad. There's a play that to bring up when they were in that net game and whatever they got up early. It doesn't matter in the business, especially now Jesus I mean fifteen points. It's like nothing, Hard drives gets ties right, the mid section, get him in the got or the man region, but he knocked the shit out of a right, we're all those and plays were hard generally good, disguising how hard he hits the defensive player, get em off them and nobody
configure it ot. The rest will see some crumpled up body and then hardens already turn it away after a lay up and you're like what happened is curled up on the baseline after hard makes the layout and everybody's getting ready to get back to the Boston possession ice is like hurting right. Harden got them really good, and this looks up at the ref and the rest. Look at him like check ball like get up, and this is hoping he can give him a second and the roof didn't even have respect enough for Tice to stop anything. So Tice gets up in like a heap, and I'm going. You know if I'm Tice FUCK Cardon, like I'm gonna, She wants now you just you just did that to me and now I'm gonna get, which occasionally doesn't happen with some of these guys that are so vicious and how much contact the initiators, often suppliers, that nobody comes back. Maybe worried about everything we. It is all going to get revied anyway. So we're about- and I just took it- I got crumpled the rest didn't care, they didn't stop the game he's going to get back in hunched over trying to get back,
set up for the office possession in nobody does anything and incorrigible city. Tyre team and they earn a parade to go, hung out with carry out of the game and I'm not focused, On the contrary, Boston all that shit you been overall but unlike discourages, worked, you and you can't wait to adapt em up. You have all these moments in this is somebody like you who watched them all the times, electric and selfish, my dad, but I always watching be like what are you guys going to get pissed off about how disappointing the season is, because they shouldn't be this bath you know everybody has their ups and downs, the Campbell Parts, a big part of it. They get him back when he shoots. While they look like a really good team, but they don't seem to ever. Have this life there's a void with this team, and I I just I think it's real and I think it's a surprise yet enough, soft, the right word or passive, or what their young to I on
That helps either you know you look back at the seventeen team right crowded on their team mark a smart, rosier you read girl, who is they kind of secretly a bad ass was always I get in a shit was another one. This is breaking news to Repco. He would kind of feisty with people and Isaiah was a tough guy too, but that team that was like a lunch, pail team. You know- and I think that's the eighteen team that kept fighting and fighting that had the Marcus Morris was the big addition that you're right it was another guy he's frustrating guy a roof for her, but that guy was tough like he didn't put up with any shit there is a tough, that's, that's lacking with distance and the Eba. You see it over and over again the brigantine bothered me too. I put it bother.
There? They had carefully it's great to see thanks for completely destroy us. Let's have a covert up. I think that's more than anything why they dare to be making trades asleep. I do not think this will be the rostrum on Friday because they there's some sort of they need all their guys in the team. I did the teams to young. I think leaders of the team who I love Tatum Brown. I want a route for the whole careers, but those are young guys they're, not you know, they're, not ever young guys, gave me mad a young guy he jolly rare. I see John Maria, like with fire all I'm not saying a works all the time, but I don't wanna see when you know, I think team. That's got the personality it Tatum and jailing, though I don't think those are those kind of guys. That's why I thought he is so important, though, yeah. Now you write like at my frustrations was smart, but you know when he was out it's like allocated as smart as it may be, and then he's back. Then it is not really different browser think it's hard to be like the fourth best plugs ass, a thing he frost.
Those guys clearly, we've already heard about it. Man we heard about the one that was public where it was like those guys got into it a little bit with Jalen and Smart, and maybe it's just guys getting mad at each other after game, but there's this void with them, where you keep waiting for them to hey, you guys are better than some of these teams like this past. We can. I know they got Orlando zig. They made a million threes, but I don't know: where is my name? Sacramento is like they just played harder enrich. Our homes was the best part for some reason visited just dominated them. When you watch like on what the hell we're gonna, take a break, simply say is an award winning Hobbs CARE to system. So you know it's engineer with the latest. Technology want to keep her family safe, but what really said simply safer part as its people highly trained security experts always there for you. When you need a most people who
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yeah me jack. I'm Slash bill servants, so Rousillon Ire, we're gonna. Do a trade deadline show on Thursday and will start it like probably a half hour before the deadline, and they go all the way through and then try to posted as fast as we possibly can and there's evidence are only too much trades theft today. But I was looking at us trying to figure out what the next could do: cause they're they're, fifteen million capra, which I think is really a fun wrinkle with them, and they have some expects to any kind of like their team. You think, like r, J R J is basically ban at twenty point, a game guy since last time, games where it's starting to look like it's come together for him ran, has been good all year and I was trying to figure out like drumming, can't be bought out, he's too good to be bought out as frustrating about
He can't you free throws goods, that's bad team guy, he's too good to be bought out. This is that Blake Griffin, like somebody needs to trade for him, their teams that could use somebody like him and it just seems like their natural german team. The question is like, if you put German, That's him and we ve never really seen him on a good team other than that one year with Blake when Blake was really good two years ago in him that he was not good. But if you put him on this team play it for a new contract with all the other stuff they have gone. Is that something you'd want to see. A German just doesn't get me that excited near. I think That is bad agrees that there doesn't doesn't do much for our started. Watching this week there was a cape when did this go home and then we ruin our own trade value for you, because everybody thinks you're going to be bought out thing become accepted. It was pretty interesting because it was like Marcus soldiers doesn't suck, but now because-
A job, a hurdle and by the way will dream on made his ran about how like this is a double standard. The players are fine, not playing ok I believe that if the players were back home, video fright players Superman about being sat down, then I think we probably here from a few of them, but I agree that Drummond see. To be somebody get up at the numbers. So big on him in the trade and that's realising next year because they could observe the number, and I mean you, average fifteen ribands, a game. That's that nothing you know it's no you're right, you're right and just a high number that deaths that somebody that the Fuckin Lakers should be able to get for freed March. I just hope somebody steps up and makes move weathered Charlotte
you know who Charlotte would probably love them because of the rotation they have right there, but I don't. I mean we're talking about what twenty five five this year, I threw this traded house marking in for top and straight up- oh my god, he's twenty yeah he's twenty eight seven, sorry, twenty eight seven marketing for topping straight up, I think I'd say no for the bulls. You say no, if you're the bulls, yeah, really, what do you do with marketing contract this summer? You still have no idea. If he's good or not, I personally would be trading for it, but.
What, if he's like hey, I can make, I got an eighty million dollar offer from the kings. I think I'm going to take it unless you guys match. I know that's an interest. Take the bogdanovich thing: hey this like Atlantis, offering me seventy five, you guys interested that's I feel that the Volvo deep that the older depot deal where it's ok, we got all the deeper for four years smacks. Awesome but why he's the one? That's a good swing guy. Do you wanna? Do our poker corner, I feel I didn't do enough on your german corner. I like the idea I just if I were tee, Try to get drunk and and and I was told I can get him able be able, gets the rest the day. I don't have it. Wrong opinion either way I german it just the it he's, not a by our guy. Does it bothers me, he's too productive. Yet this is that this is not like Pga Brown near the end of his career. This is that by Griffin dues
probably then, and I sat down, but you don't even larger Meyer member how bad everybody wanted him that year, oh my god, what or some other classic once Ah Stefan Marbury, is another one. Yet most of the time it his bad. They know it up it yet ends up. Nor my favorite one is the warriors: were the seventy three when team We realise what happened the finals, they come back the next year. They ve got Doreen and so that seventeen and the cow brought in Bogota, Dear and Williams above yeah those those good get played eight seconds and Darryl Williams actually played a little bit But it reminds me a little bit of what's happening with the Blake thing with the nets. I don't know how much that you watch today. I give me your thoughts. It's my thoughts. Have that change. Maybe you're right now I'll likes to do. I was like look
I know this game. I know the I can't do anything anymore, Basque backward, so I'm gonna to keep the ball moving. Sets of screens cut, make make it seem like I'm doing stuff, but I'm really not doing anything. I were talking like the first week of it with the clippers, but again the tomb settled in and started making shots and he's easily gyp part of rotation. I think that is a day that about our people breaks. Thank you to be able to guard people that he doesn't have the latter. A movement anymore he's not explosive. That way, and they see my day we're thinking about planets, like as a dream on kind of a small five which I don't see it. I just don't think he's gonna. Wait for them. Ultimately, I'm not gonna worry about what he looked like in. His first came back and what five weeks so the thing nets, as he's gonna end up having an isn't. It haven't six seventeen one night in everybody's savings back and with what happens with this. That's team because harden so good at getting the other guys open, looks in just free ones. All the time is placing I have some
night were the helpless towards hard. Imagine Durant's back. I bet you. Blake has a night just by default, because no, guarding him regarding all the other guys, but what happens is is the headline is Blake Griffin of the NET and then Lakers fans out here, like God, damn it like. Who are we getting like? I will I right? Well, I don't think the balance happened here. You know where of Drummond ends up with somebody in a buy out right ends up with. We get really excited on the recency bias of it all and the reason I bring up get and Darren Williams of that is, I remember, a very prominent voice in sports talk after the calves added those two pieces, it's like well, that's it balance of power is shifted and I went up to him. I was like I don't normally do this, but like are you really think. Adding bogot in Daring Williams at this stage now makes this calves team They're gonna beat the warriors with the rent that sounds stupid book into our taxpayers as eight there still
boogie was another one when he went to the warriors. It's like this, isn't even fair and I'll. Give it give the book had some stretches there were. It seemed like you let me locked in these are run anywhere else, but I don't even know if a healthy buggy made them right like every time and I'm just prepping everybody for this. When the vile stuff happens- and you see the guy for Shopped in his new Jersey knowledge they just turns into like whoever has got the last guy then becomes vaulted is like the favouring the conference in. It usually doesn't work out that way bearing Davis's another back in the day. You know it struck me by today that thing that's laughed with his game, as is passing how grain answer they were thrown at him, and then he can do one handed thing and he could just zip it around, but I think teams are going to eventually realize like just play the passing lanes. Let him try to actually like try to create a shop, this garden, one hundred and one. Let him just let him try to do something because if he's trying to do something, that's a hundred times better for us, then, if harden or career and heavy rain or shine disobey does not lay learnt like do as they please.
Why would I want he's? Gonna have a nights in the regular season where people go unlike his back, there's a cool element to this, and I think this is why people are rooting for it. There's going to be a snare we're hard and Duran Kyrian Blake are all going to be on the team together and it's going to be like holy shit. Can you imagine in two thousand and thirteen if we had told ourselves that these four guys would be on the same team like that, we lose our minds, but it's you know the reality is they're different guys to me. The Durant piece is such a bigger story, line with them than Blake Griffin coming back where rent missed a year and a half of basketball, and since he came back, he never we haven't been able to see. Wafer can strike aims? It may well be that another moment out now he's got this hamstring thing. That seems like it's now a month, long injury and we're not supposed to be worried about that. But I just I don't like one guys
you know who have played a lot of minutes already in a lot of games, and now they hit this phase of their career, where they just can't stay in the court. For whatever reason, I don't think, that's a good sign, alright, poke good time. What are you saying? Okay, I figured it out. Okay, there is no player with a lower floor and I'm requisite higher sealing the disparity between the sitting on the floor as the right widest. He has the single it is variants of any player that gets real minutes in the NBA today, and I will start with all the compliments, because that organization is incredible, I cannot believe they won this many games this year. They ve had a cycle through all of these different players, not like they just how their five. They roll it out there. If you're not ready to play the thunder you're going to lose. And I still would look at their office in their rotations going. How is this team winning their offence if there is a time to when they had a decent record? Regular
Fifteen, I thought was amazing for them and their point differential was way worse and I was like all right. I'll run this course it it hasn't. They won't again, I mean, are they had twenty wins now? Because the over under for them, I think they're, just behind it. I think I got they're eighteen and twenty five eighteen fourthly, there over under is twenty one of the season, so they're gonna obviously get that and their point differential is worse than ever team in the west except for two. What look? It's not like selling their greatness stand. Excite salt, pork Jesse, we knew that he could pass for a big guy looks like you, wait about one twelve in the footage of where he played the competition was not ah tense he also the footage showed a guy who was like one hundred and seventy four pounds in seven feet. Tall now he's probably a crisp one. Eighty eight maybe, and he kind of looks like the guy on the Instagram. And videos that gets his hair caught? You like, oh my gosh, like what they do this guy hill.
Thing I've learned having Instagram is that international people don't how to cook eggs properly? You just burn the shit an abuse them, but that's another will alter. It will do that in my pocket, so popish whiskey, their win against used and by the way where Houston ran. I so John Wall down to game winning three to win it because the rule is down to two pointers. Don't count. You only can shoot threes now with that, but that was a secret. Your game, because it wasn't easy, has the top for Houston Pick. So he said actually needed or lose the game, but Houston well, but it all the way along the Houston, win the game, and now it's coming down the stretch, but you can't other players. The tank, others is the latter, shipowner there's all his own tat, the radio's jacket. That's weird! religious and other radioactive driving back from Vegas? It's weird, that neither of us watch whole game, but christian. Would I get twenty seven and he also did something that was awesome. It were heeded
get the ball last couple possessions and when they were coming out of time out the John Wall, he just shook his head the whole time he was standing. The bench. So they heard and read a check in increasing would just shook a sick as he wanted everyone and no fuck this like a knocking the boy enough on the man and it's why, despite his immense talent there like some of the teams that he's laughingly, I they forget that ok, let's eddies, but been awesome and garbage out guys guys over over duplicated and more than duplicated everything you do and production was when he was its joy, so picturesque. He had a stretch where he dribbled right and just fell down on his own, like just yard, sale ready at a slight someday grabs. The basketball away from, He comes down. The next time hits a three like and it was nice and the best thing about pokes Jessica is passing because you're like
he's like where the hell of this guy- and he does this thing where he beats the guy off the dribble, but he's always thinking, slash and kick but he's like seven foot, one and half the time. You think if you just kept dribbling, that's probably a layup or dunk, but he's he's always dumping it trying to find shooters like the he's its he's one of the strangest players I've ever watched because even outside you about for the job in teams at Geneva, like really Do that guy's? Throw some passes, though, I've always loved her. When I would tell you and it's an eclipse of it, I built this guy gets, pissed off way doesn't get the ball He saw a man announcing a what, if he's gonna, do that the objective that yeah yeah he's doing the same thing like Toby, like thirty feet out on the weak side clapping. Be like. How have you not swung this back over to me? So he fell falls down, no one touches them and it looks like houses even in the league and then the three and you go okay and by the way, he's so young that none of this matters and that there's actually some real posts in it. Alright. So this is mostly positive thing and then he hits the three
then they come again, and this is every lost like two people in transition defence, and it was a disaster even know who to close out on yet help worry, wasn't supposed to help pick the wrong guy transition. After hit the three he came down and he was probably like twenty seven feet at the break and I do he's wide open if you pass it to him right now, it is going to be Guinness record out of his hands. I mean he and it was awesome. Airball the air was out of his hand, so bad it was light now, even zeal. Mean. If you are american, he would blown on the hands afterwards make sure they are right. Radio now he's the all time, quick release guy who has no business being at all time, quick release guy, I think about him. If you made a rule that the basically that eight feet, the paint leading towards the basket just had an electric current hot lava. Better, you be air hot lover, so dont go near. That
are you buy something bad happened and then he said what would it be like if somebody was playing like that? You'd pick him because he has a fear of being within eight feet of the basket. On the other end, who like black shots and stuff but offensively, he just really really wants to be twenty five feet away at all times. He was to be You do it instead of being on the first floor of the house. He just he likes to view at the top. He likes the view from far away. I get it. I get a kick out of his body is unlike any body that has ever succeeded at an mba. Let me, let's be honest, although Bert once these videos like that guy's jacked right I mean that they think this guy may be like in on me guy Sunday there there, like all in on them now there's some people that, like are goin. You know these age where he was play. And that he's doing this now I mean look: he'll have games, you go through his game log. God. I can't believe you took an eleven shop, they grow
Are you doing that day and then he'll be, I think he said to for eleven games. I got check my poker. What the free throws he shot their free throws in every single game, except to two of his last five games: Africa. I will say it is what I say I realize for the whole sees it when he does go into that that danger zone of the paint, though that's what he does your right on the kick and then a keener round. The back. I think showcase. Where I was like, I don't know five guys. The NBA would even attempt this pass. It was sick. It would have a very low level. It's funny have protected the fan bases, get of guys like this. When you haven't kind of a crap season cause. I Ito obviously have had a few crap south excesses by day, but I remember job Green was one of those guys where he be like geography was basically his Ricky sees. It was similar to cocoa is mostly a train wreck and then there's a couple gems and you'd latch on it
gems or that one dunk in traffic or whatever no he's getting it. I mean he's, got all the tools. It's got all the tools. You remember that late March, early April, run Gerald Green. Had yeah, I was sure to call that, like the fools Gould season of the NBA and I'm afraid in a we're way, we're having a full season of it, but there would be this stretch of like last. Twelve games or everybody was tanking. Two thirds leagues tagging He would see these guys. Have these incredible offensive stretches and then it was almost like winning your ball game when the Idaho Bull ran, be coming in the next year going dude this guy this guy is it figured out, but it's such a great point about the fan part of it, which here you can feel the attached, because you do this for live but my analysis is mine at my is watching is watching players and I, like my, Sometimes sometimes I'm wrong about it. But you know what never never factored in
my emotional attachment, where, if this is better, I feel better. So if you're argument to me is I'm wrong the player in your right, because it'd be awesome. If he was really good for your favorite team, then we're not going to talk about it. I looked up Joe green second season when they banking for the terrain. Odin lottery, though seventy six game in the air they lost Atlanta by this is after they they lost their last. They had an aching, Lucy shriek and he was on a stretcher Gretel. Twenty one, twelve thirty, three, I'm telling you again that's right, twenty, two and twenty one, and then that kg trade it was like. Oh can we give up Gerald Green, I mean, can he being the trades and we're already given about Jefferson like me, but we have to throw a green, but that my point as you get rashly attached to these young dies with potential in cocoa is the greatest example that, like a guarantee theirs
see people read analysis, I hey man, they offered to poke who made his only nineteen. That's Kevin O'Connor, Keevin O'Connor gets gets mad at or I making funny because here's the deal The poem Barrymore about ITALY's right put the bad poker clips are hilarious. Ok, they're, Asia, their fuckin hilarious maybe he's gonna be really good. He's really. Young pressed he's, gonna good track record. That whole organization, the should win some sort of award, because I can't believe how competitive they are and there's not really a ton of guys in that roster they'd be starting a good teams. But yes, the poker thing may work out, but give us this. You have to admit deep down when the highlights or bad it's it's bad. I mean there's a lot of things about him that if he caterpillars doctor
what we catch him for the raw many you're like this is unbelievable. That same presty lose a bet had we outlined before they give this up. And you and I were. I watched the Memphis game after he. Let it out by went back and watch the second half NBA App and he looked pretty good. Like he looked. A little turkish you're like a god. What are we this here? Yeah he's? We fear that this is the most fun version of a shit season. You capacity we have. You have no chance of not being one of the three words teams in the West straight and yet some other that one or two or three were stance shea each. I would say when you consider they play today. No, but I'm saying with say like maybe the clips could have gotten Paul George without even throwing them in if they had really stuck to their guns. I don't know
press. The obviously was going we're getting shade, but you think, like the picks, were the story of that trade with the with the people who did actually watch. Oh, my god, look at all those pics a since I am ass, give up shit about away. I should when I said earlier, there is nobody on the team you like Jane, I playing a key, Billy every team in the league with Marche I mean he arguably should have been an all star this year and whatever you thought of him before or you just whenever I remember the first time I saw him in person. I went off shit like there's something out. I didn't love the playoff stretch, but we can just chalk up to being young as first time through it, but he's taking it to another level and he would be any want that got so yet they have at least one I loved yards. It yeah got shot it you'd, Sammy Dort went from wise. You shooting in that used in game. Refused sincere these were now just phallic. Everything was a storm of them offensively, even though seven games are think just watching that series you just went everything's a struggle for the thunder
where, when Houston gets rolling, it just feels easier for him. But yeah door has been a big big, be quiet, we'll save, will save the rest mba stuff for for Thursday, when do the I what's your non sports thing is Matthew, Modine Back a Medina sites, yeah So I saw him in a wrong turn, which I thought was really good. I genuinely liked it the remake of wrong turn. You know he was in that No, I was he's in the yeah, I'm eurasian cars. The blues letters were really get off this method that, yes, that is excellent here, ass a minute mouldings awesome. I thought when I heard that, the idea for the movie as it that's not gonna work reenactments, like they people tried. This is never works, are actually work. He's also that of the event dad in a wrong turn and he's really good, and that too, I think we're into the sauce. I think it's
and it may be a little fire under when you guys, when at each other and twitter, you could help me had happened, he was legitimately pissed. I think as I was all he still going at me, wherever men with set out you're, not sports thing, the Medina sets. Yeah and I would recommend the Netflix Doc on their college scandal, it's a good watch. I dont go, think it's going to win an award or something just, but you haven't watched Barton, yet no, I'm on a peaky blinders run. I finally got to that. Did you ever watch it? No, I didn't watch it. Why not just haven't gotten it. You miss now it's worth near the same reason. You have gotten a barrier haven't had a lot of time. I've been watching basketball I bet she wandered back as before, but his once you I'll get out of this. But you know when you're watching thunder Rockets Games and Sunday
afternoon in LA and it's nice out. That means you just locked in PLUTO. Is they have a Johnny Carson Channel and I keep drifting over there to see who the guests are. And it's like stepping into an alternate universe. I have the recommended. You have TED give me your highlights. Right now I told a story of the rewatchable tomorrow about the best. I don't want to step on that on the rewatchable. I told a story about this one I saw last week but that was amazing. I'll tell you who I saw it the other day, though Joan Rivers, so, I think, has now been lost. History as being hilarious, she came on and cross nineteen lines. I think that the funniest thing about these old shows is we're so hypersensitive too,
any sort of trigger joke any trigger word. All these things where you hear somebody making their shows twenty thousand they're going to get in trouble tonight, show they're just blowing through the stuff, and it's just over the course of some night at one thousand nine hundred and seventy five. I watch this one. It was Glen Campbell and Don Rickles sitting in Glen Campbell, look like he was on something Don Rickles and he keeps interrupting Don Rickles and Thursday. It's it's unbelievable. It's like this wasn't that long ago was less than fifty years ago. That we interacted in this is completely inappropriate politically correct way, and it's really hilarious so I've been enjoying that just because I feel like I'm going to different universe, who's your favorite guest on those like Hoosier who's, your like. Ok, I'm not doing anything, I'm watching us I know it's a lot rickles right, yeah, reckless because I mean a heavy Rica'S- could never really make it on tv. He had a
he was on Cpo Sharky and his big things is a variety shows, but it was like Carson was where he made his bones. He go in Carson, he would just kill, but Joan was another one who I think was really underrated, but watching especially the seven ones, the command that Carson had of just there's five. For five people on the on the couch and he's like the dad lording over everything and don't don't poke fun at all. But you can't let go too far. Yeah he'll come back with like a fucking singer and you're, just like shoot you down and then adds over on, and he's like joking it and you know, know how soft it was, and it's just it's really something. It's it's so unpredictable. That's I think tv tv now you you have to be predictable. That's part of how have have to do shows shows right. You to do the same way with the same things, and you know you got to cater at certain ways and it's just fucking crazy, but it would
Kim always doing his show down. Initially how how we to model the show is, after, like the old Carson's and the MIKE go where it was just like put people on the couch, you never know what's going to happen, nobody would want to risk that now So why did you try to do that? Early on Kimmel, I memory you guys at the bar thing, and that was a disaster we had the yet I got cancer, but we had the guest have guessed host every every week. There is a different guest us, and they would be out for the whole show and then, when the other guests would come on, everybody would stay and the couch would just kind of fill up. But what you find out when they do the focus groups or people like yeah people, don't like the guest host That was that's. What happens? They? They killer everything. It's tough is anything new, obviously, but there's just such a buy in with Carson that you have to like. I grew up watching the reruns during the day, and you just I don't know like as a kid. I was just like there's something about this. Where
just assumed it was great. You know what I'm not saying it wasn't yeah you didn't have as many options, obviously but there's something to be said about. Ok, I'm were so critical and in nasty because Maybe it's because the way we are now because he s on the options, but imagine tat, Something on now being like a camp thrilled about this. I have no idea what can have budgets thrilled. I can't wait to be entered I don't know that any of us watch stuff that way in that's. I used to watch that show. Where are you I can't wait to see what they're going to do on this, and even though you know it feel outdated, not kind of stuff they just. I can imagine how much fun that run in Hollywood was like when you were in that group and all these entertainers, I'm sure, there's some version of it now, which I thought you were gonna introduce me to, but it has not happened yet What I want our rhetoric about LOS Angeles in those people like running the town, it must be, I mean, there's books and I kind of stuff.
I just must have been unbelievable and then to be like hey, I'm going to do Carson again next week, all right yeah, I'm going to be buy and all that kind of stuff- and I know there's probably people who didn't like ah the all in stuff- but I don't know- I'm always very enamored with the whole thing because it seems so foreign to me me too, it's gonna send me on a Carson book run. I think I think I have one of the books, but I think I'm going to zip through some of them I'm going to go through a sixty. Seventy old Hollywood run. I think it's going to be. My next book run just kind of dive into, because after you guys did the Chevy Chase stuff, what did you do? You did Caddy Shack, right, rewatchable and then you guys did a big chevy chase. And so when I read the Essen L book, yeah the history, one that you, you recommended to me in a cherry J step is so good, that I got kind of a worm, all his interviews like when he met a king and it was unbelievable and then it was
after the cocaine run, and then I forget who was asked about cocaine any just shitting on the guy interviewing him, it was the funniest thing ever and then whatever reason Chevy Chace like really like Bruce Dirt. He's being asked about Bruce turn. He just like crushing Bruce turn, but it was. It was real like Chubby was annoyed. The guy, like you, and then you're asking asking about Coke and Chevy, just and on the guy. But he did in the way that, like when Chevy was it is, is the height of his powers. It was so funny, like you, just crush this. I think it might have been, Trying to think of who it was because it was one of the main guys that was interviewing him and he just turned on him. No, no every chase is a good rabbit hole. There's some good in rabbit Hole, he's one of them. There's good interviews, there's good features bad him over the years. You you can you can go a lot of places with that. I went through a norm, one items one of the better Youtube rabbit holes right, because I neighbor
who I love and we had on again because the specials out, and at the end of the interview, I pitched him a couple of jokes, but I went into it knowing like this isn't going to work and I texted him ahead of time be like hey. This is my plan and he wasn't into it on text and I was like this is going to be a disaster and it didn't work, and I just thought it was funny. So I was searching like comedians- do bad jokes and norm- has this whole clip of on the show that EAST have? We have guessed come by and read the jokes that those guys wrote and they read him back to him and they're just funny enough that they still work like they're, still actually funny, because it's norm sense of humor, but I magic, anybody else being it'll, pull it off and you're right norms, a perfect example of it just it works.
Youtube norms. Terrific nor Mcdonald, for those that may think we're talking about cheers, yeah, just Google nor Mcdonald Courtney torn Smith, okay, so Thursday, you and I rep for the trade deadline, we're going to start typing we'll get that up. We think it's going to be a good. Play deadline right. There's too many too many teams that are kind of in that bucket. Maybe we could be better, maybe we could get a four seat, maybe get a 5c. If maybe we could flip the switch that I think there's going to be some desperation. I really do. I don't think it's going to be a there's a counter that, though, with the playing game and some of the teams that have felt stale for such a long time that hey we get to make the playoffs now having the tenth best record in the for nearly a year. You gonna tell you not to be able to do anything in the plaster and they would be the counter we had to go. We gotta put this fucker step. We went twelve twelve minutes past their past are due date. I was here. You are
I will see you on Thursday, all right, that's it for the podcast don't forget about, new rewatchable going up on Monday night insidious, an influential horror movie, watch that you probably didn't realize how it's going show us, but that's coming on Monday, that if you love her of her films check that out and we're back on the speed on Tuesday, see that gonna see him on we are face. I don't have her with him on the side on the.
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