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We had a man sooner, but we talked a lotta nfl it. We talk Tom Brady. We talk a lot about quarterbacks. This is a great part. Caskets second tire. First, our friends from protein. I Kevin oconnors here is tat his civic time, we're here to talk by barely sadly verse background sunday of out and out access, be opening cassie, let's trade, just abject ridiculous, reckless overreactions! two sixers celtics and lakers

warriors, I will give you first pick in the overreaction draft yoga, the lakers at bass without a major trader, the tense it at best. Your last range play india at basque of eighteen, you're gonna be better than them for sure. Warriors nuggets, grizzlies, clippers sons, maps, pelicans wolves, but on the mismatch on tuesday hey Chris Vernon and I you know hyped up the kings. We really liked what we saw from them in preseason the moves they made blazers. As of now trying to win games with all the money they spent the summer. I you could, are argue that they should go. The other way Damien lowered, be worse, get higher draft odds and the web anyhow race, but as of now they're trying to win the lakers right now bill. You need in the nba to win today you it. Shooters You need wings, the lakers have no space, no reliable shooters tonight, ten of forty from the floor.

report range terrible until that fourth quarter and they have no wings and seeing their starting six foot. One patch beverly small ford, lonnie walker, a so called three eighty player. Though, he doesn't shoe three well threes. Well, doesn't the fan well lakers ownership by bearing weapons they extended pulling her. Why do you need? it's decided that its right to question and considering the product we saw a fortnight. Had been questioned or they ve been ridiculed while landed Polenka. I was stunned. one of those times when you actually watch it year, precedes anuath pike ass. He watched the clips, but then, when you actually see the team it out of fear team that guy's route and it's a while when they get so in some of the injured there, and so so off the iron insight. None of this is actually the whole team they started beverly and westbrook at lahti- walker, the fourth and then the five guys off the bench initially were matt ryan, Gabriel, the sky

anderson reefs and non there's no help on the horizon. There's no free Imagine whose, like gonna, be ready in december. This is the team casey. I my overreaction top european action. I think this is actually the worst richard tat in the wig. Who has a worse three four ten, but even if you go to the bad things like ok see, Antonio, maybe charlotte the team? I still might like their three three through ten better, you could argue. Every single prior three through tat in the lakers, is below average just saying, like average, is what the hundred and fiftieth best part in the week do. There is their third guy in the top. Fifty you could argue westport regiment were suddenly tragedy. I hurried rough is. Maybe I'd want twenty one, thirty from zero point for the railways? Let's call it average and maybe out they stay, you could call beverly average. I think he's like in a third nights ban on the right thing, but it was funny a regiment do the hall. You know

What you want about Russell westbrook are you know he did average in eighteen, seventy seven last year you know he poison a heart. You know the leg, visible light in the sky, but you know he's out there and he beats to his own. Truly played seventy eight games, yeah one of them he's got two legs and two arms and a head. It's really bad, it's just hard because they had their full mid level. They had a couple side levels. They had that tht the contract. That was like ten million. That was at least a little tradable. I just don't know how they can do better than this. I mean that with them, is at this point you look If the team, what we saw in preseason, what we saw tonight and what we just saw on paper, what was kind of obvious all along here, a russell westbrook and two first round picks deal for myles turner and buddy he'll that helps you. That makes you more watchful, but that doesn't solve all, issues that doesnt solve all the shooting problems. Although the defensive issues,

wing position of veal, the lakers you have ross and I think, despite no matter how average or below average this team might be from now until february, knife betray deadline if you're going wait as long as they can to trade ross rather than a panic, move for hungary and healed. You got you you gotta find out. Where comes up, It could be heyward, roget, error and you'll. I may need one pack to give them something like that and many order on the one for something else and you make to separate trades and then your team suddenly looks better than settling now for turner and healed. maybe you're not getting them for less than one first, maybe as one first and a bunch of seconds like this sixers, three three ten guys maxie tucker harris nea ang house, harrow, bible and melt What a difference I think you could argue all of those guys would be the lakers third best player maybe dang verse westbrook, I don't know, but then the factual, with their legal rights

sovereignty I put forward the lakers need the shore celtics thereat there, three through ted, take it out tatum brown, orford smart way, greatly. Brok, then then it goes into the hauser griffin. Vine lay, but all those guys probability wait for the lakers threat. I am I No, what the moves are I'm with you, though, you campaign, get plus Davis. Look great and they're gonna win fair share. I think, through at least not dip too far idle they are in danger of being like a fifteen and thirty type. Teen they'll, though, hang around of those two guys are healthy. I pick them I picked them to go over because I thought the panic trade was coming sooner than later, and I think what They start out one in six, something that the differences shares I think. Leubronn knows that this title has sailed for this season, which is what he's been my overreaction. My first one celebrations

twenty three to one on fanned order. When the scoring saddle, I should think that's it I bet from what I saw tonight because I think he's going to kind of quickly move into. You know what we don't have it this year, I'm gonna score some points, I'm gonna break the record. I'm gonna get my thirty a game. I'm going to try to get like sixty five games and gets a thirty to thirty two, a night. They see how fast thereupon their play with pace in the fourth quarter. If they play with that kind of pace, I don't know if Davis is even gonna, be at all that, but if they do, I do think he's going to score points. What do you think of that? One? I think he actually saw him stab paddington. Bastard Hampshire. I mean I think, smart enough to realise this teams, not good enough, Without some major surprise trade. They won't be good enough in a matter way to turn our heels aachen again a bare. So if you're, the brine yard, you know you're thinking about yourself, right now when you're thinking about your numbers in your place in history, and you get that done, and then you re assess next summer in and enough,

other side of it if your little abroad, he did sign that extension you're not treat eligible the season like, even if you decided he wanted out that had the waiting till next summer. I mean the conspiracy theories, sincere, I wrote wonder of rob polenka he's either gm and all a basketball, or he deliberately builder roster, Sir bad around Leubronn that he's too push them to ask out after the season, knowing there's no path to winning again with him any more like it's. It's one of the two things this roster is so bad around if you're lebron, unless you don't care about winning at all any more your past that championship chase, don't see how you can, when you a broader you're so playing at the level that you can add some of its disappointing to me in a way bill that we are at that stage where he sat patting. It is still not compete. Has he still a player worthy of contending for championships? He'd have has the worst. Three too, through to ten around him. As you just said, yeah this point last year, when couriers bacon the words round- but it's worth mention again just that he can't it did have the

This is for his version of what this curry warriors team is right. Now you know like this makes a vets and young on the rise. He looked back at that two thousand eighteen team that, firstly, in that he was on when they did have allowed lot. Oh yeah in an ingram and heart and lines is on there and they had all the draft picks rate that every draft common that a lottery pick in the draft that was coming lines as the only one just from a health standpoint that I think you may be worried about for the most part, they had must those powers I don't see a lot of ads for them. I didn't see it before the season. I thought them as a playing team was a great bat. I think it was like see their mind when twenty or plus one twenty was somewhere uneven aids, but it is either I think Dallas is going to be a playing team. The west, like their top seven eight. If you think new Orleans is going to be good, which I think we do and if you think soccer and I be sneaky, which I think all of us at the ringer who followed

asked why we all love this kings team, to the point that I'm actually probably scared for the kings now, but I to me the lakers are the tenth best roster, no matter how good Davis's one thing: that's on the Davis front is just the trade possibilities with them and if, if he just great for a month. Could they look at that? As a you know, at its not gonna work, this combo, we won the title. We got what we want, and maybe we send em we try to rebuild replenish and we could deal with the broad in the off season would be the other thing, so not idle bad bad definite could be a path that makes sense, because if we, if we saw what teams were Brain for covered her aunt and granted no deal ended up happening if the lakers word a put Lebron james on them or already on the blog before the deadline, working the brown and have not yet able wrong leubronn obi. Eighty before the download look before the deadline, the braun for the summer either those guys on the block your get in a mass of law in return for them, and then suddenly you get this young up and coming roster. You get your own first,

one draft pick in two thousand and twenty for you can you know, try to hit on that and build a young team and try. Do it in a way that doesn't involve lebron making decisions are pushing for decisions on the foreign office. While this leads to one. Moreover, action, then I'll, throw back to you for the next one snake draft I'd be really worried about the webpage, Yama scoot packs a found a laker said o, because this thing, what we saw tonight is now if Davis goes out for, like twenty five games in the brain, place sixty five games at eighty, two simple right that this will be potentially atop. Seven worst hit This is the injury like swings against them, where you know on a is like in the worst seven, because then the odds are actually realistic, especially the two top wines that leads to that lakers pack. Basically, the reverse of the magic johnson pick which they got in the girl, goodridge, the jazz side, gale goodrich.

lakers get these two picks down the road form, one of who turns out to be magic johnson and this could be the new orleans flip of that way down the line where that women yama or or school all the sudden going to new orleans as part of the Davis trade and we're not even then, with the text with the day of this trade. I mean I mean I had the pelicans into one of the big winners of the night on my list for the same exact worries about the f together. Even if that pig is only you know, ten or eleven, and that's all it is you forget it better. already take if you're walls of this great gray, young team already that that innovation. If, as a winner never mind if, like you said the thing tonight. Eighty looked tremendous. He looked back his prime self on france that block he had on weizman coming from behind in the first half wishes, absolutely filthy heap thought about it it play when he jumped up from the steel filter. I swayed. He was too heavy last day put on too much muscle he's athletic a d again he looked tremendous but as the

cast that every time he hits the floor. He if you're a lakers fan you're worried that he's gonna get up, holding his knee or his wrist or his neck, whatever he's glass and so on The lakers, are holding onto that plan. Hope in on a very thin string You mentioned the pelicans being a winner, and I think I think had that hard enough in its a great point. One thing about that pick though, because we both think the pelicans are going to be good barkley seem to think that they had a chance to make the west finals the files which happened A tiny bit ambitious younger, referred a mismatch. You think I'm crazy bill. I don't think you're crazy, because we know that zion, if he's at full strength, is a top fifteen porter in the week. We saw it a couple of years ago so that, if that, but also betrayed possibility cause the pelicans have ten plus first round draft, so did the jasmine fonder, but the jaffna thunder on trying to win games. The pelicans are so new orleans can pick him whose whoever they want to try to get it might become available to bolster the team to so that

that's what I was gonna point out: it's not just the trade possibility. It's this specific lakers pick as a trade possibility and if you're them you can start dangling it now or are lacking. within the next two months they have. I guess the divine graham contracts point five million take it that vowed shoot ass may be, for fourteen sab If it was a big guy coming back the jackson haze at about seven, they could patched together something for a salary in the twenties thirties and that's a dagger and especially if eighty goes out evade is downright around the foreign aid is offered twenty games it. The team that has things I just want, I want to sell so high it's been by vets. I want that pick. That's a different kind of pick. Then you're I'm a peg, because normally you don't. You are unable to trade for tanking. First round pick drawing up a veteran right, you're, getting a first you're, not going

pick that you know is gonna be like in the top eight. So I think that's gonna be a fact sure am, and then I said earlier that the lakers, if they were to treat everybody, would have their twenty four, that the reality is that their twenty four or twenty five, so the pelicans on their side of things have their next. Your game area. Yes, like bacon dangle that is well. Words are what you get your choice. You can take the lakers twenty four or twenty five thousand. Like they they have, but they don't have ably. We made the box pick you now in twenty six, when he seven as well. They have the oil resist rapid of yet some swaps. I bet they have one box swap one hour to alright box picks as welcoming lab, they have an absolute perdiccas, pelicans, verse, lakers, the walk are probably a better bet to better record for next couple years, simon- the swamp, helps them because they be swat. Oh, don't think

I think this year so this year, so the lakers and pelican swap this year rights that would help them this year. Yeah. What know what I'm saying cow? What's gonna break in, and I had some coffee and try to regard a basketball season starts its purpose. Some downloads, and oh america's number on sports. But right now, new customers get a no sweat first bet up to one thousand dollars free bets back. If you first bet does when set up with promo code bs, you can dive into Wednesday night of the nba season. You outta danver denver nuggets eleven plus yoke edge discord. Twenty plus points, twelve plus rebounds six plus the says you make that same game. Parlay, plus three fourteen out recommended vandals tons of bedding options for each came, lab updated odds on games that already started and again the new live same game parlays you can do you can add to that yogesh thing, as it's happening sign up today with promo code b s for your no

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those guys, but but Harris maxie heart. in your starting five, not get enough on defence and beat in tonight's gaming, satisfying the deep drop coverage really pay, ass is deeper than last year. Does if human rights scheme for that defence for doktor reserve on into by a terrorist most of all does not agree fed, and we now have the worst night, just not good enough on defence. Mrs rotations, none, gotta stop or on ball and offensively. I think, he's a very replaceable. Four given his rule, even though he can do more than they often is the demand that out of him I do worry a little bit about that sixers defense, that I they they talked about, wanting to be number one. That's it and beads said at media day they've been preaching at you fast they're, not going to be the number one with maxine harden as your back or get the fuck outta here snowy, and I'm not going overreact that tonight's game for them, because I think Boston as president constituted is a bad match up to them. They are where, with the way

in the size they have on the perimeter and the cards that they could throw it hard and in just I don't love the match up in you and I to me and bead had to destroy the celtics tonight, but this out missoula, who I thought, did a great job and broke that a gum chewing record. I dunno who was out vibe, but he was smacking gum at warp, speed on the sideline, but he's just telling them. on run, run run run It reminded me that broken game after the hard and trade last season. When when brooklyn really lead it to the sixers and narrow, just like run, run, run get these guys. Tired, indeed, was doing the thing in the fourth corey at his hands on his knees again, you know, and and then he got talk about stat padding at the end. That game was over and he end up get like six more points, but I don't love the matchup, them on that rated a panic get harris is more trade will this year than it was last year. Thirty seven point six to share in it the nine point two next year that

they don't have allowed a pic flexibility. But you know I do. I have a feeling team. We watched- and I won't be the team them february- I'm gonna- to throw this overreaction back. A faint I should have make Antonia coach of the year adds up because I think I have said this before the cesar Maceda get delicious short the way they look today looked like same old sixers super, so bad transition, defence Let's get bogged down, I didn't love the body language, but hearted and actually pretty good. for what we're going to expect from hard, and I that that was in the higher and what you're gettin. But I've said it for formats. If this team is like eight, after sixteen games, eight, nine or whatever so start. That's it they're going to make coaching changes, can have an egg straight today, Antonia not sam, to sell off their batch yeah who,

where it is, but I would assume Obi downtown ages, causative familiarity with hard in the fact that he's coach than a bunch of big game's over like her. being over to an untested, had coach during a season. Don't you go with a steady hand? Now I think I do think that be such a huge chemistry shift baby here to bring a dancer into a team with a b honouring dog back last spring. Nobody remembers this that it was the staring contest, the lakers, knowing is one of the higher doc sixers want compensation I mean they just gotta looked at each other for eight weeks nothing happened. It felt like dogmas trolling from what he throughout the herald, the annual up, yeah where's, I will I like. I know tyrell has his limitations, but but your face and two great wing scorers and tatum and brown, and not putting him out there and also- I think you get a max

We had some great moments in that first half he, whether it's harden's fault or dog's fault- I don't know, but you gotta get this guy some more consistent touches. He only ran fifteen pick and rolls tonight that not enough for him. Given his talent level, we ve seen getting to the basket porn from three yet again, more wraps and pierre Pienaar. This is an overreaction actions. Is the question: are we sure maxis that the second best buy them. I think I think hard and is still because of his play, making scoring upside the number two, but maxie can be the number two on and I think that's a fair thing to say, and maybe by years and if you get opportunity and gets a higher usage and he gets more of those oddball opportunities approve what he can do with it then yeah. I think he could be the second best player, but given that the fact we haven't seen it yet, I don't think we can go that far yet hardens defences

kid cities to be abominable and how many thousand he discover like you know, levies, arrive resolutions, and I am I got it ass. It was such a lamp for the sudden. no judge, no chance are gonna, be the number one defence, but that effort my every action. Hey palmer called this out in the arena. Damage show in any. this whole model. Firmby BP and looks at like age range is in here. Hoping that it usually on Thirty, in the guys that specific point, he thought the best value, but was tatum at thirteen one tatum looked incredible in it and you know looks like the guy from the net series and mark April tatum as a two way guy. It wasn't just the ease that he was going, the defence if he plays defence like this, like he did tonight for the whole season he will be on the defensive. Did that his borderline dominant on defence and good general that seem defence without robber lambs. I was pleasantly surprised by but tatum as

thirteen, the one eyed? I think the odd should be a little lower on that one and in general, like the south, exert be good he's. There be one of the separate best players in a week and he was rarely mentioned. Ah the conversation he was absolutely. social. I mean, I think in the final see at times it's more like a number two than a number one yeah, but the weak I, like a large sample size during that policies and run during you know the irregular season, not just this year, LAO past year but past years as well data, has that upside to be a top five top sixty. Seven player in the nba, and we are right to highlight the defence of effort by, tonight. I thought he set a tone right from the jump in the game early in the game. You hit that three and then he blocked maxi after a switch on that dribble handoff philly ran for him and and tatum screen his lungs out after the play I felt like he was setting it atone for boss them with his volk vote with a peevish vocal with that

genes, whereas a bead, you mentioned some of the body languages Bobby moody the air ties ready when he d had a having even need ina much appreciation for you kind of can excuse that. But at the same time, like you still get a set of tone on opening night suckers gathered tat. I ve been working out for our stay minds. They had their fitness them. There's turn the kit turned the tick tock enron cow There was a moment in the south east game when, indeed, caught up with smart and it looked like he was trying to break his arm, Dwayne wade style. I caught the dwayne wade, nobody, nobody did bard dastardly, dirty stuff, then Dwayne wade, but never in credit, fair play a fraud of soda, my god, you fill in leeds banned in smart thing. Back jailer brown came flying in to defend him. I thought he was actually in a fight and be than he did that a finger point thing A lot of import, mama, here's where they got their asses hand. Now to them a little bit by pga, tucker and butler. Last year from physicality intimidation standpoint,

then dream on in the files standing. Of a brown game to kind of flip. They say they got bullied a bit by dream on who then go with the bad it when you did the park ass with J, J and tommy over the summer about you know how I took two brad's manhood it was interesting that brown stood up and smart enough. Guys and they all got pretty agro now. I wonder if there can be posed, came quote about this. Well, there was his way. The brown said this is what Brian robber barons order the bad. Indeed he was getting It was a lot of unnecessary, pushing and shoving. It seemed like he was trying to hurt smart in a sense, we're not taking no mess this year. about us is more class. You see the smart growth and waste. He said its maturity that I didn't crack his head out and with that right around me, rounders, when the second time make bit these plans teddy kgb, and he comes back hard with like a re rays and teddy

kgb, say he laughs as they are you you won't be pushed around and but I think the ethics are enough. Is there like fuck everybody, we're not going to be bullied again, like Definitely one hundred percent saw that dream on video and I think There's a big thing for him. When he was during the season and probably before he got bounced in september, is like we have to be tougher. You guys got a stick up for each other. You guys got it offend yourselves and I thought there was little attitude with them this year- that didn't have in part that seasoning from the finals part of its coming up short, some of the codes Tatum had I thought, and Chris Mannix peace was really hang about how bitter and angry he was but they lost, and you know I thought they were going to win tonight, but they they had a little edge to them that I don't feel like they had last year. To you know I mean we, I and like they had that edge, and they also just had the stability to liquid smart, limiting turnovers broaden

limiting turnovers. They have like thirty ability to stay calm, but also to get aggressive. You're talking about Ebay. They have both of those extremes that you see as a championship quality in Boston had little bit of last year, the developed that after the new year- but I mean for them, not the waited they on opening night. That's very encouraging. I picked I pick. Celtics worries about the files am. I beg the mismatch, but I think- and I could wars to repeat and I'd, stick with that, but at the same time, boston use take them for getting robber williams back some point during the siege. in adding him to this group with a broad din and smart in white, the stateless, stable back court. They have They cannot and in how you have egg hauser details that are dealing with The coroner deny bill miller three minutes. My dad doesn't devastated. He's really carried out of the share of the blame griffin thing. It seems like you,

play a little bit. They threw VON lay out there for twenty minutes I'll be interested to see. If that's the same case- and you know fifty games, but I think people overreact the limit to the gown erie injury they under reacted to how good bragged than his own is that they use magnificent tonight. Just come off the bench when you think like how much trouble they had would a tightrope at work if brown antietam worn out there or if your moved one of them and how delicate that had to be where you just like they, basically survive unless one of those guys was out there and if Jane, was having one of his shaggy halves, now you're gone. I have no offence of greater, but now this brought them they saw the tape as a thing from a six minutes in the fourth quarter and there through our ways out. That was that happening last year and broaden. I noticed this during the preceding, We have no idea how many games is gonna play just full caveat. You could tell me he's got only thousand minutes to you can tell him play eighty gee, I don't know, but dramatic differences just he's

more size than you realize to keep fits in with the whole way that they can swim. john d and he's just lights out. Shooter he's just good at basketball if they keep them on the court. Huge addition he's a stabilizer like the the A pass he makes as its immediate its instantaneous when he catches the ball and swings at all the court or his drives the basket in the shop pocket of a guy shooting a corner like he is just such a good to the straight up. Good players could feel in the picture like he. it looks like he's been with the team for a couple years now, yeah does that mean that maybe it's always I jus kyra mean the reason he fell. Ass. The medical's in the EU that was the only reason you ever see only raise me would have been a higher budget reward for the medical's. I like that they added a Bulgaria has and unfortunately gown areas another hour, but he got hurt, but these these guys also haven't an tasty. Yet you know makes another one blake whose either at them retail and of his career, the almost tail and of his career? But you know

ever got over the hump, never was able to win title and is a great. I think funny because he was one almost dislike, most disliked players at his pride special by other players. But now I think, he's like her. pretty well liked better and he's respected. I think he's fitting great I haven't heard anything other than great stuff about and behind the scenes, and just like that, one more in the room. I was surprised that they didn't figure out the grant limbs extension, though I thought I was, can be a lab. I saw the brain and clark witty fifty two for four and I figured out that means grandma get somewhere between fifty and fear five for four. They didn't agree to it. They're gonna role restrictive frisian see. It also makes him a possible trade candidate, in the season causes so be the last season or be release. It had shade for him. We surprised that in the extended not really I mean, I think, grant wants to prove himself judging from his quote afterwards, he he said something about you know. I don't want to. You know: ruin the market, as you know, a high,

guy high up an mba, not that he has done necessarily a tone said yeah. That sounds great yeah I do think grant. He has shown some improvement as a ball. Hamburg heed the he'd use that he showed that hesitation, dribble and analyses, and tonight he s a nice finishes around the basket grant. Maybe he and the inside wants to prove himself if he can be more than just a spot up shooter the coroner in and in a great defensive player, he feels that he can prove more over the course of affairs, and so I understand in a sense would take Iowa breaking, do couple more reactions. the. We can talk about the dream on party tonight as a real super weird. documentary? I don't have it. It was limited documentaries. I get a little better self eleven, how that was as propaganda degree, I'm propaganda for the private network. I was so strange twenty minutes for free game,

so weird and then here is, I can't say, he's with super remorseful about the poor punch and it all led to the crux of this infomercial thing we had to watch where he justified, where he sits down, postpones like this, Someone told me the world has been able to see what your worst moments look at the upside down and then is like It's a totally different way to look at it like what what so you're saying you, you couldn't think lower, so its doors there's only one way to go from here, fuckin oj for part of that southern trial. Hey sorry,. there's only one way to go to put up for bay? I just got the The lack of remorse was almost strange. He had a little more said, the press conference, but for the most You're almost seems kind of pissed off that this became a thing he was saying. I realized

I went home. I don't really check twitter. I dont really look at that's, why you have a podcast, you don't like a comments at all. I thought the whole thing was. very, very strange and then the vibe viable ring night. I couldn't tell they it's the imo, you like they fumbled with the ADI, our something I couldn't after any booze. I don't think they're, probably whereby those way that or clay inquiry and poor seemed to be the big three in general is just a weird vibe and than him and pool and their get the rings, and there never quite next to each other. They never did a hog they. Never up and for an anti body in a just kind. Like go call these guys guess they could have put up here. And pool game- and I saw a pass at one point four lab, but for the most I was kind of hanging over the whole night in a way I was a little uncomfortable like being out of family event. Right, like a thanks. Give your christmas, where you're on your own college is got in here. fight for weeks before an hour at the dinner they pay. So how things that were everyone

at their head is take your leg. It bobby cajolery huge fight last week. I was a little weird. Would you think it was definitely weird whereby the fact he turned it into contents and it was on this project strange delay on the pi, but I did do it further. Stena twenty five minute propaganda by you punch chris burn in you, don't talk about on the park ass, you talk about it and some toward him in it. Back you better be furious, where there are the priorities that are the best bad, sooner fend off ebay and think till it can put this of the dispatch anyway, very weird, but I still think they're gonna tradable really, developing some. Would you put ads that the earth odds baker but suit? Do you think it's more? where they trade, armor, don't trading because our life Bobby more likely, they keep em right. I think more likely they keep. I do I just

me, and chris talked about as I do. I look around the league who is going to make an offer. That's gonna make any sense for golden state to take it. For me, it seems like the type of thing they would wait until next summer then address it, make another title ron, even if it's weird and then you assess things max off season when he does have the player option and he can decide to opt out or are back at a distance grab. Him. The toy especially merrily letter there, a little bit better than people thought the hawks clocks iconography, they were some sense pair him would try and murray hawks. I could see I could see sense. The three team air miles turner's above cassettes, will, the lakers be around. It is yeah, but after watching the lakers the last thing I want to do them avows trade for J. My green, I don't think that's what they did. I was a watch. The interbank our man of german green, was on the lakers this a totally different way. Man was also mentioning the game itself he was one of the more forgettable guys in the game in ours

However, it was in his type a game. Its opening night is weird Witherin night, but the fact that wise then can we do Can you do that overreaction? Because I think this is a peace. I mean you're overreacting here, not lies lead role, the basket with his hands out a little girl, I like that irish, eleven, seventeen minutes, but listen whatever, don't trust stats of being. I thought at the time at he passed darker in the bus rankings. He's still for sure that such a low carbon. I read it would seem that the article that, even with darker three They have any benefit to yeah dead past oh, go poker. Him just go back and forth. What would I do hope you re labour frog, each other back and forth. Now I thought I know he was biased eleven, but he how many those bennets did you play with curry at that

not even a second unit for them a lot of our in that the warriors missed a lot of Shots in the lakers defense was pathetic and I actually read the words could have scored a hundred fifty points it there shoot better, but look. haven't seen lisbon play basketball, we saw they're in the pandemic season a tiny bit. I same at all last season, we barely saw him in college say I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know if he was a complete write off past, where the words were I'm talking about him, you know like he was buzzfeed star. There's something by now. You want to get in and outside our be asked. this is in the size, its there, so whether they parliament can they turn him into a twenty minute, a game guys? What does he twenty one years old, yeah I don't know I thought it was encouraging. It does seem like yours encouraged. I mean it's encouraging by nor was so low. I'm not you know, do would jump jack's over here over what we saw his little simultaneously thou killing haze you had been thrown upon

the main oil disasters and killing, and I have to say MR turned down wisely peculiarly. or hang it up. Hang it up and hang it up with that for damn sure. Now I liked what I saw from weissman I like he, he look he's shown potential I mean. He showed he shouted different element, but the warriors haven't had. this room running and if he can become an enforcer, an anchor for that defence. and it makes trading dream on whether it's at the deadline, whether it's next summer, whether it's some number of years now, and make that easier to do, because, if you're moving dream on you gotta have somebody who can be the anchor your defence. Besides, given monet, given loony only a twenty to twenty five, may, for game guy, maybe twenty eight to thirty minutes in certain season match up. So red lies beneath the reach that level than he can do that, but yeah he's? Not my? You know, overreact. draft, but I was left with. I think one of the things I be overreact to his jordan. Poor girl

You didn't have a good scoring that it was only for fifteen. I thought the play me Can he showed It's really really impressive that that was true in pre season as well, but the five assist he had in the first half had some. You mentioned wise when rolling, he had a great pastel wiseman in the pick and roll where he took an extra dribble to hold the defender before whipping the pass to him. The warriors on the sideline play with stephen curry or sometimes stuff comes over for a handout for three pointers. Sometimes he cuts to the rim. In this instance, he cut to the raymond pull pull delivered. This perfect balance pass the staff on the cut. I just feel like pool he didn't score tonight. The heeds doing a good job each year of targeting between scoring in plain again and with him he's not gonna get my clays taken, a lot shots

not going to get all star usage, but it feels like if this trend continues for Paul, he has all star talent. Even if the usage is a bear, I agree they want to keep curry's minutes. It was thirty four point. Five last year in the eighth season. It was thirty two. I think they want em around thirty. Two, which means pool need surrendered. for those other sixteen minutes and you dimension deep out now his game. If it's if he's ever going to really make it as an elite bench. Guy It would be an this where's team with the way they move in this stuff you bring to the table. Does remind me, like the redeem team- that really fernandez, as has the sole moment in their redeem team back and it brought me back to fit in years ago, when, like all of us, had Rudy Fernand as that

it was like having the king grisly upper deck cards and they did mandate for all of us, said Fernanda stock, say this: the year for food aid as any just on paper looked and you'd watch him he's a cat. This got to do everything and different sheds are reminds me a little of that. He he's so skilled as an ot like he can go to the basket is a good passer. He can shoot righteous fundamental is a bench guy. You want those Thanks and yet I have no idea, if he's ever going to be able to put them together and that's why he was only available for basically a one year flyer, if it's african habits, given this team, I mean he made a good decision, go into golden state, what a place to try to restore your value and prove your worth more money than than what he and the funding for sulphur him. So if he is able to stay healthy shoetrees makes himself visions off the double survive on defence he's gonna get paid near it's a little late, the curry warriors are becoming a little like the Brady pats, where peep argues,

I stopped by for a year to either restore their value, try to chase a ring whatever and they'll take the discount that the experience for one year, just see how it goes, though, always be able to get those guys. It feels that is that a good thing in the case, in the sense that you know Moses moody, plays only eight minutes tonight and he's looked pretty good defensively, versatile long stride he's got strength and his spot up, threes very weak trouble. I moody's a good player but yelling only eight minutes behind coming behind. Even chance. I'd like to see him get some more opportune this behind what I didn't green for that matter to yes, he I didn't like the jamaica, green. I was surprised he played twenty three minutes. I thought those at that it can be moody minutes at that there the smaller neighbours cousin the match up with their playing- I don't know, but I'm with you. They talk that moody big time before the season Made it seem like you is: this are super poor person either J. My thing.

I dont know how plays out. I don't think I would wanna bet either way on a yet, and I do think he has done should make it worse is the other factors that are given that that documented thing, whatever I be delighted about that. If I was on the A run of the warriors say why Why is this on the internet? Now? Why is this on twitter? Why do it why? Why is this still going? Like just let it go put it behind you. talk about it, you know the internet goes people talk about, and then they move on and the next thing people can move that the next thing night was, can be the last piece of it and now feels like it's gonna come back up the gave him life for no yeah? For no reason, the curry piece of this was fun tonight to where you think, like. They're coming through the and lakers come at currys house lebron was the prayer, the generation and curry caught. It took

over at least the lunar bad, these last seven eight years they their shared in urban and master curry, really took the reins. Then the broad comes to his ass same number titles, even though a curry was aaron soften that ring thing like it's just like that's his house there, his fans, there's no other, they ship, like that with a prayer, an essay A franchise and you could feel it even in rain- I like no other player, could win and have the and of the room like that and that's you know the one Leubronn gave up by not stand in cleveland he's, not gonna have a connection like that with another fab ass, you know. Did you see the bob cost us any other kind of went viral until after the other day, where is talking about after Michael Jordan as finals. The changing and be a how stars weren't staying. one place at one time anymore, and what that meant for vans would the identity of teams that they were for it s It's kind of prophetic in a then released

what you're saying now about what the broad doesn't have instead does, while we have janius has it with be? I think tatum has a chance tablet, boss than if you want I think can beat, has a chance to habit with philly. He needs to win a title. All these guys need to win a title. Janis already, did it luke as a chance to do it in dallas and jaws a chance in Memphis, but you know first to win the title. Flora normative renewal of bond again at so early for them too, but you gotta get the title that pushes the bond think about how different pieces celtics career was how kgb received the boss than they won one title, but those guys their printed for life in Boston, cause that one title I don't know how that's going to work with Davis and the lakers cause that bubble title was so strange that there are no fans in any of the games. I dunno, if that carries the same sort of didn't even have a parade. There's no pirate

It was a. It was a weird one, but man I remember going to the celtics parade. I mean it's one of the most. You know made an imprint of me going there. You know been on there on the street. I keep that not even be able to celebrate that finally how, after mature after operators in a car- and I was like leslie elbow to market. I ran over the woman, thanked him for the title. Who is it What's he gonna do with his became for game too, in three. Wherever, where do I find us about that? Almost twenty points, but everybody I picked them. I did my picture before we go. You had so you have a go and stay boston. Rematch I did my walking in Denver. I talked about it last week with house, and so did? The overlanders were really high denver and I was I had on fishing by my I want more more week. I want to read. I wonder I love the quotes before the seas and all that little stuff. I had to do my whole process Danvers this. they came to Me- and I think people are pointed to the clippers, but that was then in sing outcome. Tonight we forgot to talk, but this week

like a lion, Paul george that do oh, I think J linen and data better than calliope, despite those guys are all there. Trust them to play a straight. since I don't know how they can stand the court for more than sixty two sixty five games at trust it, and I know what I have with tatum or branches, think there safer bet with denver when you think the floor for that team, removing mary importer and forget about adding Caldwell pope and bruce brown, their floris forty eight, when I dont know how they're not eight to ten wins better and that there is a better vandal. I think, plus by fifty four, the once said to me it's state or them for the one seat. I think those it to safe is bad, but I think damage can be off the charts offensive that they share. What do you think, I think, Michael what're junior is gonna, be the key to that they be lucky

more like the guy who average nineteen points on forty five percent from three inches jack and shots from everywhere and still hidden them, the regardless of the defence and priests and self he's able to conceal, saying that or even build on it and keep getting better, maybe become a twenty three. Twenty four twenty five, paper game guy with more bag and all our support, ladys and said c p bruce brown. They got some depth a versatility bones highland. Maybe better, as a young player to will definitely be a little better. They they should be better, so denver on another year MR ribeiro Gordon too, for that matter. Yet danvers get a real shop, they do and the lock you can't better against giannis us and Chris Middleton when the best players top twenty five, thirty guys in the leg is well come back. Point early in the year. I think that's a fine bed Milwaukee would right there for me next to boston. To me, that's the two clear best teams in the eastern conference in gold. Denver there right up there for me in the west and

gonna make an argument for top topple other teams making the finals, but ultimately I died gilad go states all right now, denver, probably in the west finals grizzlies they have a shot still too young. I think they're hooper clippers. I mean every like it's really a health bet with them Yeah, I think the two teams you had the two themes I had. To me, the clear for that are likely to face bats and then the clipper These are the wildcard bat and fully in the east. If I leave either at all channels it we have mentioned member sons, but of little, but here for you no question. Now what we added make albania was on the ringer today and he did nineteen percent since came out hot first ringer peace any hadda. He had increasingly boy predictions in two, of course, flat out jealous of the Chris Paul with the sun straight crisp.

Their decision, as it were forgotten how to wire retarded sudan. How about a laugh when he had won a heap clearly goes all I got out of the way we think about tat back chris power. not only that we have the will miami move on from Gibby butler as his last prediction that, but he had big trades. I was like how he's gotta work for a suitor one of the trees were his jimmy, but the denver- and it was porter and anna cup other pieces, and I am address by headstart, erasing that, whereas it that is real, really interesting of miami feels like they missed their window. You have danbridge, god we're close down the answer a porter wishes, grab Jimmy jimmy buckets and really run here. I was intrigued out of the euro. but I thought that was one of the best big trades had read nowhere. If your denver- and if you have

I have concerns about porter junior moving forward. Then yeah, you try to shop him, but if you've, you've you're betting on this guy to stay healthy, dude, his upside. So I like the got enigma six foot, ten clay like shooter, those on believing will he can jacket from thirty feet? He could jacket come off a screen. What to do There is broad over him and from the corner. He can pull up for mid range, highgate turnarounds and if he continues getting better getting better with his going to gonna, be oda into the basket the even greater efficiency as well porter I mean like he's the he might be the x after the entire nba season for talking about finals teams has what he at her in denver into as a team of their pit every single year, what that's, what out get about them as a one seed that, even if they get sixty games at him, that such an ex fact average is say. Oh we're going to add this. This a twenty point, score six foot tan and makes twenty five footers moves. Without the ball who's gonna, throw him into this mix. We have already. I thought I went. There

thought and why I dont think that shaken up happen, but it talk about it. Then was open trading porter that make me not want to trade for because I beg what do they know for sure, you know it's. Ok, man! I got this unbelievable poorest. I've been I'd, hate them with the same but are also it yeah. Now they engines great- and I spoke about Why you try to sell that cars beautiful? Why do you want to get rid of it? So I think they're, probably stuck with porter therefore, our better or worse than will probably be better. I think we both think he's you on paper, just an unbelievable fit with yoke edge in what they have. But yeah he could get hurt in April, and that will be it I remember when I was in denver a couple years ago, an interview, their former gm him calmly. He said something to be like with porter jew. here. The only concern is injury. That's a yeah! I think that was the mindset with them just given him the money, even though it babe bite end up being a mistake. If you keep scan

and you stuck with that contract. But all you really need for a chance to win. One is her hand to be healthy, wants April may and then possibly joint activities of one time just wants over the duration of the car. right. And if you win it, then it's worth it ass. It is now eleven. Two pacific time saw a rapid up. It's good to see you were here and the mismatch will see on youtube feeds when one is the void, kick back up. not sure what figure that out? Ok May god, november december, some like that, you had tik tok does lotta when banana scoot coverage common skip, that oil lot draft coverage, I'm looking for to the and b a draft guide. The shares this, the fight, after all, even beyond those guys, I gotta see things I arrived Patrick. here he put the eta for a long time. He is on amazon's pre game. Half time post games, stuff, thou trying to figure out. What's that's what you think a tv first ma

I've been pretty good. I've been joined it. A part of me is travelling from city the city get the sea former teammates coaches trainers the guy's, all that keeping in it and the tv aspect in knowledge, as me. So I get more in others, Does this go with? There's no usually say no, but I decide aware in any way- and you know just working with them eyes and work away. Thank Christa richard sherman S, character and andrew worse than fine, tony Gonzalez had been fun so were enjoying it so far I got through until one of those studio shows for mba like ten years ago, and there are these little things that you just don't realize it You're actually doing it right like it, looks really bad of your nodding vigorously. As somebody who the fuck it looks bad of your fidgety, you wanna make it Quite unlike you know, twenty five, thirty second straw, not just kind of ramble. You'd want to chew up the five minutes segment. You know

say if it has to move around their body. What else have you learned, what other low tax yeah we ve got? We have to hold our makes the whole time. so I went out when I do in theirs is taken up too much interference. So we're not doing the madonna might we're doing the normal mike, and so they keep having to tell us, especially in these loud sapiens. Like kansas city, for instance, our first we doing it Might it not because we're talking then you're moving your head, but you're not moving the mike and the audio isn't picking up is good is shared so Some of that. You know for me: it's bans is moving ahead loud. Fourth yeah yeah I got away, here the camera, don't worry about it, you're talking and haven't discussion on I'm right in the middle, and so it is constantly doing in this and then having to go to the chiropractor after the and for that session you know with all the neck movement the nodding- and ah you know, when you're on camera and when you're not making goofy faces at people, but- that all that has been found to learn about,

see, I was smart. I worked with the girl beno. When I did I, when I did the mba- and I was like give me this side seat, I'm not doing the bobble head back and forth eg out of the ed like barkley. Let me do that. Let's talk football stuff, so the big, I guess it's becoming a trend. Is this whole everybody's trying to take away the explosive plays? and I can't thou we're only six weeks in- I don't know the difference between a fad in a trend, but we argued and less exposed supplies every m, is going under its like sixty five percent of the games are known under an it. Does like a little more of a great grand canna season, which is good for my beloved patriots cause. That's all the ball player then you know twelve play dr type, a team, but is this a fad resistant, actual trend for you I think that is a lot that goes into it. I think first of all, quarterback said he being more risk averse.

I see that a lot in with some of these new offenses, and you know, if you think, they're playing to take away the deep shots, running game should explode and they're, not really exploding, and so some of these new offices as such, even a washing just in herbert last night, when he had fifty eight attempts are someone an average four point. Two yards per attempt, it now and so there's a lot. The issue I have with a these newer offices is: when you look at receivers catching the ball. Their shoulders are facing. The quarterback their away from their end zone, and so this run after the catch up. What you see with San francisco, some of these other genes cash in the bar on the rhine and hidden it going is more passionate. Looking at the quarterback face, phase and then having to turn around and so you're gonna generate less explosives. That way and you're gonna generate less explosives were not taken the shots down the field

So the part it remains below frustrating to wash their watching the patriots washing baileys happy is its happier. we can observe happy with work on arms happy. You can comment on his calm, the best quarterback and for papa carmelites abbot, does about her but we've got a young guy that comes in and right away on. A third down takes a shot at the debunk de monte parker, who goes up and gets it and brings it down right and so there's some of these past down the feel that you're not seeing with some of these other guys. You know aaron rodgers, for example, yeah, there's a lot of the appeals and just get it out of his hand and summits, probably trust with receivers, but More down the field, shots man, that's why I'm hoping james places weak for us on thursday night. You know you can put it down the fields. Why god you're I'd, take the shots. I used a hate when the patriots played you, because you and flat were the two that you just three step: job, just chuck it down the side.

and I am always the most scared. That is a fair as if I've gamble on the other team or a farmer fan. I just feel like the three outcomes: basically incompletion completion or pass interference. right- and you saw baltimore just for five years there with flacket, where there is likely to keep its keep goin. Let's keep up the pressure. I absolutely hated it out. I dont know why the charge, don't do that with Herbert. Again. If I could change anything in the nfl, this isabella just run that often superb, let him spring it you know they did. They had a game plan going and where they are going to attack the guy opposite of certain. Last night, it through apple, deep ones on him, where they got the eyes but they're, just there can be more of it. There can be more, as you know, the quarterback at the line, seeing one on one coverage and being able to take advantage, because some of these receivers are so impressive and sociale coming out of college. Now you know that in the last five to ten years that's been the

crazy thing for me to watch us killed skilled. Some of these guys are coming into the nfl nfl ready, because it's a tough position do that in europe and more and more guys are making that jump, he's your every year. Will you had, but you played with parker like that it's not like he's going to be opened by five yards. He wants to have contact, go up in the air and bang off people and go get the ball well and- and you think you know- We did the bearers game, Emily justice talking about just in fields in what he threw in college, the ilo in his he really his receiving war, is worse than it was in college, no disrespect to the guy's history. Two, but the one I forgot about ethic. Jamieson Williams was on that team as well as at some point, but smith and jake butter, their sand, better than a lobby and better than wilson, like the other guys who was trying to and the guys the town

drawing. Yes, there's so much separation, and I saw that we too are when he first item. I m e. You take the risk. Where's yet alabama in their competition level, and there is a difference sky open in the nfl than there is in college and in that I think, would somebody's quarterback struggling with young ones, especially as they get to the nfl so serve. You just did that bears game and they don't have a lot of talent. Obviously- and I I'm more on the side of I don't know if fields ever makes it as like a top fifteen guy, because they just call me nuts, but I love accuracy and completions is one of my when my thanks for quarterbacks, I like even somebody like Zappei, like I just cycle guy food, it opened it with that said it does feel like there's a different version. Of an offence for him that might be more fine right, where you take advantage. Resolutest ism in use haven't chuck it down field. What you said before about the fear of interceptions. We

as I come from, is that the coordinators or is that the quarterbacks being afraid of the impact on the stats? I think is the stats and you can. You can always tell in only you these are not the end of half or end of game. Hell marry, you can always tell quarterback and what their thinking it. on about that, one that accidently takes a sack per year- hey, let's through real quick for that- fifteen yarder and maybe get into the endzone. The guy it throw the hail mary bounds and then you could tell certain guys are thinking about it and trying to protect, protect what that in stat line looks like, but I think that's probably bits, rises, social media and the hatred on there. In an hour, It's been able to produce a stat line at the end of the game. That's like! Well, I guess he didn't lose the game for us. Look at his stats. He didn't throw any picks. Ah, that part is becoming more more private, let the goal is not to throw interceptions, obviously, as a quarter back but

the goal also specialty offences that are struggling. I look at denver, I'm taken. There were three shots: the jury duty and taken two or three shasta cortlandt, sudden every thing gay, because if you haven't you. time generating yards and you're having to go on these fourteen fifteen. Sixteen play drives where a basketball, a holding, call for a start. well last run a sack, and also you can extend that dr shots down the field. Are the way to overcome bad offence, weather He says it's a p. I it's a catch, earn an income. Listen there's two of those three things that can be pretty good for you. funny way said about the hell Merrick, as a basketball started happening like fifteen years ago. The end The quarter ended a half free pointer from half court I just started wait until a split second after the buzzer before they shot it. because I don't want to hurt there three percentage ray. I I'm gonna start looking for that. Now it thou be fun

thing to follow football games. Yeah. That's so you have a and hap when you're looking at the end of the half and the guy takes the five yarder off the line, and then the receiver runs for thirty and the jog into the locker room. That's another big one he's got good yeah. You had a couple, here's you had in buffalo you through twenty three pacts in sixteen packs back to back seasons. seventeen picks and the jets one year, but you were let no fly. I always felt, like you know, like you, were kind of a thorough to sixty seven is where they just didn't care about the stats as much. It was more. You know How could I move the ball? What are my things like? What would you do differently when he looked back at some your satellites but some of the twenty three pigs in the bills. I led the league that year thing I tied, maybe either but some of that a lot of that was also decision making it was down behind in a game and you are making.

And dumped frozen decision. So it's I'm not saying like. Yes, you need to lead the league in picks, you need to have fifteen intersections, but the fact that you know there's fear, especially when you're losing a game of taking shuts down field and making lays. I just think there aren't enough guys. There are willing like those shots right down? There should be more it and look even just the fields and we watch when we I wash out his take gone up into that game. It was a beautiful day. but again I game. He drew one day, bald acid pettishness, courted touchdown on it, other than that, the only way they generate yards from him scrambling. So why not dial up two or three again He put the ball in the air and, let me read down feel it just its head: scratchingly meet sometimes work, What's your favorite young quarterback re or who's, your very young quarterback right now, if he had to pick. is the one you just enjoy watching for other ends. You like you for still for still counting Josh as yet

quarterback Josh now just any I had just off the table. Ok is Joe borough off the table. Now now, can I I love. I love watching Joe, but even in a week when he comes through and just lays an egg vs, the steelers he's he's got the pixie make some bad decisions even after that he's getting stacked a bunch and people are critical of his offensive line, but he realizes a lot of it is self. Now you see the numbers and how quickly you get my ball out, but also its not just a short. Or on the ball, the strains and all that he put the ball down the field and in lucky for Joe he's, got jabbar chase, t Higgins. business, underrated, receiver, indiana, FAO and other boy, so he he's got some players and handed after Joe mixed in sweden a great spot, but I really like him the way he plays. He plays without fear in terms of

taken, no shots down the field and even hanging on to it for an extra second and taken a shot. While let go the ball, I really like the wind blows. I do as well I have him on my fantasy team, so I was watching him even more closely. I went all in on him had chase and it's, I feel, like he's, been figuring out his team, As the season went along as we are far out bangles they improve their offensive. Might I thought there would be better, but that pittsburgh game with such issues, or another going it's why it may be. Why was you got her then but he's just a freak. Maybe he blew them up. I now but over the last five games at that that saints game was pretty important for them where they had to come from behind I think this season craters if they lose that there too, and for with them with some games that they blew and they just and disjointed but chase finally rips one off another three and three which the he just you don't want to be tuned for at this point in the season, but

I am with you the thing you said about. He waits that extra second, but you know he'll take the hit if it's going to buy him that extra second, because that's going to be the completion ama couch. I don't sound like their power, I'm just a guy, my couch, I don't. You're like braiding rogers are waiting that extra second and more especially brady bread, it'll be seems, like he's, been business decision in these first six weeks, and he just You wanna get here. What do you see when you watch Brady. The I mean also forty five years old is the aids it's his career. You know when I think about his career and how durable he's been a menu get some these games are haven't. Schuyler thomson goes in for miami and bangs is hand on a helmet. You, ve gotta, tell redrawn goes in concussion, holier concussion, yet these guys there are going into these games. Getting her right away, like tom other than the acl hasn't really miss anything in his entire career, so yeah,

in a lot of that is toughness in the way that he prepared. Some of that is luck, but it's also longevity in the way that he plays and get rid of the ball. So I you know I just for watching him this year. I know. There's a lot of stuff is going on in his life. You know that the kind of he's been rumoured to hear about, but I just don't see that same fiery just seems a little disinterested in. I feel like in the kansas city game. He was. to turn it up in other You really have a chance in that game. Cause kansas city's offense was great, but that was kind of the first time where it was like. Okay, I see the interest level. I see this guy played against them so many times, me when they are beating you, it's not satisfied with winning by three. Here by seven whole game and in the most impressive thing for me, his entire career shall focus he can be done. Every single dry that every single game- and I just see allow

There are this year when I watch them play. So I'm I'm a huge pages vein. I was saying Watched and incredible number of against in Maybe I don't know what the reverb is, but something different and I see a guy and again I don't know anything. I would soon when personal just watch not to be, but I see a guy who doesn't it my keys, all in a painful baltimore and you can just see the way the look on his face, how he used to be like the ultimate team guy- and he was always tried to inspire- and he was just locked in- and you ve felt like you- is really really leading the team that teams rudderless to Me- and I know they let the last arians too, but in your losing to pittsburgh, you lose kenny pick it is basically is. I think it's a second start. He goes out This comes in who they were like sent back in february to get offer them. You know a fourteenth round back here,

then he's back third down froze and like to lose that game. I thought was alarming and I try not to overreact in october. But that was alarming because it doesn't feel if they move the ball in the same way, I don't think they can run the ball either their offensive line isn't as good, and I just wonder, does he does he just have regret Does he just say bad? Why did I come back and the end is that starting to seep on the field? So would it? What do you see with that? Well, I I think I mean I think, I've seen it from him. for his last year. In new england, another Jim out he was, example just a year where there was so much visible frustration from him. He was kind of exasperated alla time by his teammates in play. Holly and you could just visibly see him upset more than usual on the field. On the sidelines and What this year feels like a little bit. That being said, I played for todd balls in the air. Work at the age

somalia is defensive scheme- is great. It's tough to go against he's very aggressive and that trickled down. team. Now I think they once and those games early because of the defence and I haven't performed as well as late, but I still see the box is a gene that they're going to sleep. their wait. Ten and seventeen in all and make the players, and then hopefully all comes together because maybe Tom becomes time again in the play off yet the chest. That's enough I know what this season feels like right now for me and that's the case four Brady's, I accuse than twenty two twenty two seasons of these like he knows I get doesn't really matter until we get the thanksgiving without your team is the daddy that's all When the amazing thing about him, though, when I watch him is even though it's been so long, he so locked in all the time It- was an inferior opponent or a big game on sunday, monday night thursday in our jesse.

He was always so locked in, and I just amiss in that a little bit. My watch him monsieur. Why thought that the retirement come back was obviously on the day hiatus in the middle of trains. had been august. That then seen great he's dead, he's not with them are wednesdays and the friday night thing. I was really surprised by. I thought that was as unusual. I believe you paid a lot of football seasons, I'm in a guess, I don't wanna, be where the team is on a friday night, when the game is sunday at one o clock on these coasts. Am I missing something yeah? I know it's it's one of the things he had to know if they win the game, it's not a story, and if they don't, then it is- and I don't think a whole lot of people went into that game. Thinking they going to lose that game to pittsburgh, but a send it becomes a story and something we have to talk about, because nobody else in the fellows getting that privilege to go to earth buddies, weddings, ass

you know if it's. If it's one thing, it's not a big deal, but this is like five or six thing. now and they just start adding up where you goin. Football doesn't work like this like the great thing brady with when he was on the patriots, turn the best times's. He was always even though he was one of the guys, he worked hard, everybody else he was all in and he was the ultimate teammate and that's what all those guys from who played with them further, then some of the guys that of combating its rogers Russell Wilson, where you have these people kind of conifers grenades, the ex teammates there's. None of that with Brady like nobody from the patriots you ve never heard anybody say anything other than that I was an incredible teammate and this this year, It doesn't seem like he's an incredible team at it. It feels like he's being grandfathered in as I'm the superstar ah up, you know Catalan. I want, and I guess you tell me different, but I dont of football,

that way when you fifty three guys a businessman same page yeah. And that's you know if anybody gets a pass at him, because you know he's widely considered the greatest of all time and then the it's almost like. He did the bucks a favor by coming back, in a way I'll come back under my own terms. That kind of thing- but I will say, is no one, some of the guys in that locker room specially guys, his throne to Chris guidelines of the world in the MIKE evans, those guys, love and respect. Jim, you know they have zero ego, and you know you're, not gonna see the innocent oh brown type blow up out of those guys. They really there there to win, they love playing with them, their true professional. So I dont think I don't think there's go south because of this last incident or multiple incidents. I think again, they're gonna

work their way to the off, and hopefully it all comes together. Well, the football season so fucking long leg, its weak six were barely at the one. Third, and I think we ve, learned anything over the last few years that the chiefs for three for last year- you know the bengals ten weeks in the season. Nobody was thinking about them as any sort of a super bowl possibility. So it's a long since you know you have a unique way. in patriot van history, some share your, whereas you you murdered our last season with Tom Brady. They are it was. It was It was an assassination was even a murder. Is nobody was expecting it and we- losing home field advantage they're getting trounced in the playoffs, but did you feel like this is deep inside patriot stuff, but it felt like you guys thought you could win. That game

The guy you saw your team saw something in the patriots that I don't think a lot of us saw were related it is bad, but don't turn it on the foot, the switch they did at last year, but you guys, actually you're better than that accurate, why it was as you can go back to when we paid him at the beginning of the year, and that was you know the worst roster ever assembled in their taken for to dominate fox worthless. This isn't fair to me players, you put them in harm's way. Is there so bad right? And we really we we? They just cut everybody that had any sort of ability and his black eyes off the street that but here was so rewarding for me because we started owen sadden, but the way that we face in that year, in the belief that we had in that locker room and greed together throughout the season.

That was a big game for the dolphins organization, for us as players to be like, ok, look out These come. We can do this, we could actually be these guys and the patriots were flawed that year they just talking about the budget. sleep blocking a tenant sailor, maybe this year, whatever there record wise. They were kind of sleep walking the way through the season there, and there was some stuff that wasn't right, and you know going back to the tom's body language throughout the year, and you know some uncharacteristic stuff as he watched their offense. They were really what their record was and we did We believe that we could do it in that game and it took us going down and in our scorn, two minute dries at the the game, but there was very fulfilling the elder. Do that hospital it wasn't fulfilling for, Some say that really can play remain alive. We made a lot of supervised

I was. I remember, quarterback side. I was asked this question, so I would ask you that position just for what succeeds it's that talent, you have set up some talent. But to me the charisma, the poison smarts, is so important that confidence all these intangible. Second that position where your basically like you're, like a fighter pilot you're, one of the only people in the world who can fly the top gun plain ray. It's like top gun maverick they get the twelve guys like you are the twelve people who could do this mission. a lot of people can't do the mission in over and over again with the draft, the same kind of guys drafted in the same kind of guys fail, and then you look at the guy, that makes you mentioned borough earlier right, cool customer, tough as nails super smart. Just something different about him, that you can see why Can we not get the quarterback thing right with the valley?

patients. Why do we always over and over again look for the wrong things? Baileys app is good example, has poise, put a bigger fats in college, but it seems almost on a little bit on our feet over its early, but you know, but it's it's hard because part of it you wait until all of it is what you walk into an this point too. eyes, and one of these is becoming a better example, but the two guys I point to then rather, and russia, Wilson and the success that they had right away, but the situations that they walked into there was an infrastructure on both of those teams with a great deal and they built around the ball. So you see them both into those situations and get better. A ban was not a great court back when he came into the league, but over the years you just saw all of a sudden that change from steelers, great defence

run again to then or office christine air in the bar making plays down the feel them rely more and more on him, the one gains for them. The russia wilson examples very interesting in all our man sat with richard and who has very strong opinions on it. But he's got a historically dominate defence. You ve got a good running game all of a sudden. We, Some of that away- and he goes to denver- varies in a new system. Now there frances years been phenomenal. But did you see to be something that's not working there, even when Josh allergy now there were there were questions about. Josh coming from wyoming smaller school. Can he do? It is two years in the league is at fifty something percent completion percentage and all of a sudden something clicks, and there is a physical talent with some of these guys Josh and herbert are probably two examples that you can't replicate what

just entails an example by a guy that is so physically gifted that you're willing to take chance on them early in the draft, because be the eagle overcoat. You think that you can develop them into something that it's just start a new you're, not gonna, see many of the dailies happier in those forthwith six them round and drafted guys as quarterback much anymore because there so many guys with the way the directly wage scale change everything that are going in the first round that you're gonna take in the top ten. Look around the lee how many non first rapporteur, baxter opening day star, First, there aren't many unequal pheasants is one of on deck. Trust dots, one alone, but there are a whole lot of them. Anymore, will think about just a guy. one on sunday, Sakina smith, Mary. I do. I know as a first round peck, but anybody could have had em over the width right

to build a together again appy you go into the land, it sank. Half of the guys were afterthoughts, yeah- and I love it. I think atlanta, arthur smith, is doing such a wonderful there? If you look at a guy that is taken what he has an he is using market. Mario is best tributes and making sure he highlights those every game he's making game plans that highlight who they are as a football team rather than just copy paste. You know throw in plays out there. I think arthur's the example of a team. Now it's on the rise, maybe not because talent they have, but the way that he's cogent football team right now. I always thought that was bout checks greatest scale as a coach they get it. I'm gonna be like what why did he succeeded? Was I ve always looked at his prayers and then figured out what system would work for the place he had for that year and I don't think a lot of do that. Yeah and you look, you know when you look at the last two weeks.

going on here. Sometimes we forget its now they're gonna be terrible this year that there We're gonna be terrible with bill. Is the coach ray? I guess I'll, suddenly as two weeks, a team that look lost and looked like you know: they're gonna win. Three four five games has blown, Few teams out they shut out the hottest, in the leg. yeah. They gonna make clear on that. Silly with you know it's a kid that it these appy. What he's doing right now pretty incredible, because you know we had the often supported our dilemma, were they ve got a guy? That's never call off and plays in the, excel or death may be anywhere and Bailey's api's, not getting a ton of wraps. You know in the off season so he's come in and done what is done with limited wraps as well. Ah, but it's almost like putsch belgic fries on adversity to write when, when things like that have any just the eu, the the greatness of his coaching comes alive.

What he I knew I set it on the park ass, tat night when they lost and packers, and I saw how, into the game he was in his throne is headset in. It was a very patriots type game where they control the clock. They became an adjournment was great That kind of maximize wherever the possibility was a just wasn't ready. They need to make to throw lambeau an age has been when the fire he could do it. I think you could do be now might have been able to do it, but I had a feeling that game I as like. Oh he likes this team cause. I just felt he was invested, you saw what they did to quiver last week. Was a classic biology games like oh you, you love to run while nick Chubb and you're not gonna. Do that today is that happening. What else do you got, and you know that in the beginning, the game long drive aid. I would take the three points that be great. I am here

did he go up three? Nothing! I that's another thing. I've been complain about the slot on my pod is I it people are afraid to take points out. Let's say I looked about chart its. We have seventy eight percent chance. If we go forward and said six percent, if we derive s good I'll, just go for that. You know it's nice three points of tabs, especially you think it's a low scoring game at up. Where do you stand on the sole revolution? Yeah talk I think, you're going to like the bills Kansas Again, this last week say, ok lot, three points I don't know they both had that mindset right three points. Isn't it we're gonna, win this game and buffalo bill for that in the forthcoming they had. I will deal with that. I'm sure you worth it for that, but there is also times in a bar. The more had a decision against buffalo this year were they decided to go for it, not kick a field, and it just some of these. You not just taken into

how the other team, but that game is a rainy game right. There's there's just this conditions, as other factors were, I dont think we can just take me amber for the analytics? How is the game going? How is there often look how's, our defence playing There are so many other factors than just the simple seventy eight percent chance of winning. If we do this in that go to the denver game that we had on a thursday night. Were you know, Russell throws a pick, verses indy her down, because they're trying to get the first down in the ends on at the end of the game and he had no business being in that game. I ran away if they just around the world. Again, but the clock play downy kicker feel going by shakespeare And he's gonna go down and score touchdown I'm so glad you said that yeah, just just that ransack on eighty five large? You kicked the shit out of him. The entire game he's got, no receivers left just take the feel, go, make him go

if five yards he does it so be it. But then it comes out of the game. Wilson's hurt, so it's like was the wilson was hurt and you still effort and fourth and one Ask because that doesn't make sense to me either now his his shoulder look at this week, though, do you think it was a little conditional ledger, yeah man, I dunno, I have a question for you about belichick. Was there ever a game when he just completely picked the butterfly wings off you? where you're like, oh, my god, this guide them me? I don't I I have to reevaluate my entire career after this. Yeah I'm sure early with buffalo. It was that, ah, for sure, But in other thing I always that's love by the in knowing all those going against trying to scheme the patriots, because you kind of always knew what you're gonna get me now. They cover zero demand coverage for the soft alone and you knew they were going to challenge you on every throw away.

And try to take away your basket, and so in knowing all those things and trying to scheme against it, it was always fun for me, too into those gains in on it. The problem was when Tom was there was just he also difficult when that off was gone as well to keep up a lot of the time, but I felt I towards in my career, there was a dna in buffalo in new york. well in miami twenty ice started welcoming that magic as I really enjoyed planting and salmon that defence. What age. Did your brain pass your body as the quarterback, where your leg see everything I at least mentally egg. I again it well, I think twenty forty It was a big year with me. I was in houston with bill O'Brien, and that was the first year I was exposed to the new england offense in the new england side of looking at for all I

Well, you're, a it! So you thirty two at that point: yeah yeah thirty two and play they had started a number of years and had a bunch of experience under my belt enough, not to say the figure now, because you know still so up and down and had a good gains in the bad gains. But it's a really hard position why- and I marvel at some of these guys that are so every year in every game play such a high level, I we have to go gimme. these two teams, who are the two co favorites right now no, that's, not how it works. After week, six one of these teams will bounce and not make the super bowl philly or buffalo. If you had to say one of those teams is bouncing, which one do you pick philly yeah, I think I'm with him buffalo looks great in buffalo's one in both sides of the

The way that which is like that's happened in one ten years, they've had so many injuries do on defense and that defend that scheme is such that they can overcome. Some of that, which has been pretty incredible, did you like being on the pi ass. You can come back loved it. Thank you for having we we, we should say we tried to hire you for the ringer and then I'll, send you to an amazon tv that was it, but I I wanted. I thought you'd be great at podcasts, so the door is always open to everyone to be in the ringer team. You said whereby avenue later in the season, your come back, I appreciate say: if I go to see it I'd that's if the black ass thanks to ukraine,

and tasting dumbarton steeds really as well. I will be back on this. Need thursday, see them.