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when we hang when we're done with that some kind of town. Am I a couple a couple sub plots before we had some gains where I love the slate this week and I love these games where we have teams that very their very good good are pretty good and the law are like minus four monasteries that foot that, but since the last Amazon bills, patriots result that's too bad guys, they and their great then the narrative after about just pouch of trust, back now, does he Trust him in there now became this stupid thing for today's any lingering thoughts from that game. What do you think it did to the Buffalo psyches that Germany, that everything into if the Buffalo side of things, the patriots they do, what they did in my colleague undermining football comrades? The only thing that would have been more, circulating or something more dominant and more embarrassing as if they just enter the ball once like it. I just went over Owens Edward image of this when it Mcdermott his comments afterwards

You're an obviously hide afterwards, the way they handled the rapporteur when he asked of it embarrassing and I think resell. Oh and I wouldn't you guys was, I will have you want them to respond. Well now I mean to the two to the lay person at home. That was an embarrassing law, that's really embracing was in its on the heels of Indianapolis. Laws were jump, There are still running and swore another touchdown. The question to me how'd you get off the bat now, because now there six days and you're gonna play Brady Brady is thirty, two and three all time against the Buffalo bill. One of them was a meaningless weak. Seventeen one of them was the lawyer Malloy SAM Adams Game and either one Rhine, Fitzpatrick Bynum early in the season. One time at eight, thirty, two and three. This could not be a worse man. For them, they're going to tap or they don't lose, and it's like. How do you get off the map because, at the end of the day, could say: well, wasn't Bela Jack and I read so numbers if we had just popped one of those in their fine, all that is good and well, but the unworthy to say

tables montage or the you. Don't wanna play up buffalo narrative come descent. in January, because it doesn't hold true anymore indianapolis- did what they wanted to do it now New England, it was The word emasculating was used. I think that's a little extreme, but I do think it Were you look in the mirror afterwards, you might well what the hell are. We, while they're, not tough- and you know we're at the One of the seas, and now where I went about nor as Pakistan Ringer enough a yes to more talk about this site. Where the play season our I need you to bring some things to the table. I need tough. This the malleability. I need you to be able to play different styles of games and those are the teams that advance has once we get to January February. There's all types of games the cold weather game. You're gonna have the dome game you can have. The human you just, don't know items

bills are really limited team at. I was at at my daughter's soccer game today, cuz for some reason she at a soccer tournament that have Thursday morning game and one of the parents, Tony with whose big bills fan he's like we're going to get you back. two weeks. We still. We still think we can when they have saying I'm like I love it. I love that bills. Fans think that this was aberration, it was stupid and they should have won the three paths game it. I they ve had good when all year they beat the Chiefs and weak three and they can't run the ball. Their running back situ. I would say, is below average. They only have one risk were that I'm really scared of the Patriots took out everybody s, neck aim and others when they lost weighed on defence, whose their best offensive where and I'm not sure the tough standpoint, arabic bout check was sure either, which is why his random, down their throats and I'm telling you. I said this on Tuesday I believe it now that was done about Back Jones that was ape. This is the team in our divisions

really good. That has a really good quarterback and I have to send them a message. This is a message that we are tougher than you guys and that's what I was that's, why you did it that way they could and play action a couple more time. So and the point ultimate used by without money that game right? They could, alas, again by the elements and beat him in New England, but he was proving a point and I think that's the most porn point and he is the only coach and Josh Mcdonald- might be the only offers a corner and argue macros like the only quarterback in the NFL, where they have the, he and the quarterback who is willing to take that coach the next day us- where the friend the League and unlike inner immiscible Brady, we're done the same thing like stop giving that might know Brady, I don't think a veteran quarterback says: ok, let's through this, and I spoke to Eli Manning the next morning, go Maria upon even he was laughing was like well, I don't know he's a rookie and all that kind like yours, almost perfect storm to get away with that, because Big Daniels

logic of all the equity in the building, where, like yours, the game plan and no one's gonna question it, and then the quarterback has such little equity against them. Well, I cannot say no wait. A second does not looked at least through a couple passes here. If it's possible, its everyone agreed with it and they got the job done, though the boy it's out, but it's also not just like Armstrong, Turbot above its now. This is that we are able and it's a good balance of somebody's hand you can, but given that pass, he completed JANET Smith. They went up and where it almost became an interception so they're just trying to there's a game and not turn the ball over, which was both so fresh, Mikhail Harry into your point. It will only the punt thing was weird and that's it. That's why everything is the perfect coaching? in our desire Lana. That was the perfectly indecision there's a few. There are questionable, but at a few shake your there was- and I would say, with the in the the beating the bills that way in their building in December on Monday night, if it has a greater impact than if MAC Jones through fit

passes and they won in its. It is demoralising, it is embarrassing and it was for the national audience to see it. Wasn't one o clock with the CBS B team call it. It was everyone and taken any lie, talking about it and you ve got a keep. Tilly making comments and MAC Jones did not throw a pass in the entire third quarter, then throw pass and he's like an and guess what Harris went down with an injury, and it was just like we can rely on our rookie running back to just gobble up yards and keep the chains and we're gonna you beat us and if Josh Islands, the M Bp, finds a way to win that when that game at home on a Monday night and uses arm in his legs, and does it and he couldn't so there you go, there's a them. Bp argument, if you look at super bottoms, potentially do that, I'm just dubious over the bills and ramps elements for the same reason: the running game, the. I gave an toughness parts. I just don't Ankara there and I think the teams can give it

a lot of it. I think Buffalo looks back about pats game they prepared to do to over again they probably to spread the shield with four receiver. an add on run a lot more barriers, relying on your running down your quarterback to run twenty times that sure that's a great plan and the re, the same thing. It's really hard to protect leads for both, I think the bills and the Rams, because they can't move the chains and theirs toughness, factor that I just don't see with either them. Where you know you look at a team like pit the packers the cards in the box, which, at least pedigree from last year and I ve got a NASA relevance of line the box patriots and then I don't know I liquids from the chief secular, achieve similar alleged edged them too, and that I think there's a couple a cartoon Indianapolis me Indianapolis. If a nasty offensive line and like tough guys on defence, like that's a team that in the play off you like be facing Jonathan Taylor and quit Nelson for thirty carries like I don't want to see that so their season is next week by the path.

that's tat! Is he not away? Will probably Irma, whether they made the plaster not but will also determine who are, whether we have to take them seriously in January and we might have their? Who knows, I, like that's a team. I think, since that is another team, that I am interested to see this week, because I do think the pieces are there they haven't been able to keep everybody healthy and on the field. At the same time, for a while, now boroughs got the pinky thing. Chases dramatically over the last couple weeks, which I guess makes sense because you know that's what happened sometimes debug eyes, but I do like their team. I think they can move the giant s big, big, is, and they are caught and ask a defence they lost. They lost the couple guys potentially for this weekend, but but that that to me out of the eight Senor themes, if its dampers Baltimore Verse Cleveland, which is pretty motley threesome, I think I like since the most here and we might come out of this week- they may be in third place with no chance of even getting a first base. Yeah there

into offensive Lyman last week, and you say well in our knowledge of matters like they're running team and they fell behind twenty for nothing and then Claude, all my back and then gave it away with the mixing fumble I'd. I'd say this about the patriots in the bills. I would bet a lot of money. that the next time they play no matter what the elements MAC is thrown about twenty times I think our yeah Bela check is showing that we could be to this way. We can be sure that way we on you, I ate it, won't be the same routine and that's why it's it's such a prominent and unique way to win a football game. Alpha goes the perfectly coach games as lobbyists are there like. This was similar to the rat Super Bowl or the Sinai symbolic. Now you don't have to kill Harry returning that pun it if its a perfectly coach game Adam and a few other things too. There is a couple times when a especially in that long long drive they have that kind of died at the tenure line they just where, just through the player Are you out of hand guys in the box? I have to do so,

hotter, Henrietta, forty five degree angle and it's a guaranteed five airplane. So we agree on the bills. I think their fraudulent I do think it fair to our who they are at this moment, when you lose too general and India you beat the somebody ought to be the lesser powerful teams can only be the Texans. I think they are I'm out, maybe the dolphins. When the dolphins had percent like it is fair to say that hey its December, you guys have lost your last. You home games and teams have run all over you, it's fair to say that you're, not what we thought you were going to be So how are they that much different than they were last year when the chiefs handled them pretty easily in the? I've seen a game that I had. We had the chiefs, familiar million, picks out, Marilla vows, never work now I've. They're gonna win that whole time and I think think the bills are better. Now don't have white either the rams. I think we disagree on because I have I you're on cross them off the same, I'm off I'm off, and I want to go against in this agreement and our picture and argue about it, you or more,

Bush on them from a ceiling standpoint. I feel out of the same issues I see with the bills, including like they might have the word. Run, a game of any potential play after him, and then there Alfred thing where he just hasn't. Look Stafford Dac the last five six weeks back so far better than Stafford, but I just don't like the West Africa there. I think you ve mentioned it. I've talked about, I think, is a little banged up. That's fine and as for the Running game Henderson, happy that number one alpha guy, but God they have a suitable champion in Sony. Michel has been in these games before that they put it. Has over colleague Superbowl ship has loaded Michel. Has he not had massive games for the patriots in big spots in the past in the clutch moments? Of course he has, and I look you going. I know you got there. Louis, is a superpower January's that I felt a thing? How far do we have to go back with this about shape it? I got it upside down. You look about offered the sort of way

The ball will last week and they trade our about beds come on. you don't think that's who they play. The Jackal If the german stop, don't you don't believe this issue, but I do believe it. I believe that with the two of them they're gonna buy with their offence the running game. There's this sliver of hope that maybe chemicals returns for the play off still pass what still possible. What was his injury? I forget believers in a kill. Use now he's not coming back look. This is the this. Is the time that you have to think that they ve got enough on often sitting by their defences enough players and they ve got a shot their eighty four right now in their plane, the cardinals on Monday night in the desert, where historically before this past season, they have actually on that team. I would not that again

the rams this weekend and I will obviously be embarrassed- we may lose by thirty on Monday, but I wouldn't put my money there wire to people so has led to believe in the cardinals. What's going on with this. Ok so go through it from seven seven road winds by ten plus, the feed every game now under faded, ten plus ever get historically, and this is right up your alley cause. I've talked a lot about the cardinal of late. It's like I went through the ninety. Nine rams came out of nowhere including legal way and won the super, be twenty seventeen eagles with whence came out of nowhere got the once he lost whence and then falls one to home aims in and they upset the patriots in what was a miraculous rebel. outside of those two teams. There is not a long list of teams who come from little out of nowhere and then go through the play off grind and then end up in the Superbowl and find a way winning it like usually, you have to make the trip the ravens made the choice,

Lee Evans drops the pass, and in the next year they go into Fox Bureau Chiefs. They had to lose the patriots in the average age of game in they were able to get over the home. You got through a lot of these different teams from the end of sea over the years it's like are, I think, taste of it than the following year. They made their run. I dont know is coming out of nowhere with a coaching staff that it always a couple years into Staying in a quarterback who has never won it became the NFL me saying. Ok, he's gonna go and beat Rogers Ambrady in the class and go and do it take care so pretty good case I think of some other out of nowhere team you right now, then Rams is our best possible example. Above us, a different value and an mourner, that's almost a unicorn Now I know they have a movie about his life and actually did fits perfectly well happening again, where he had this arena for Polly Guy, who just added nowhere towards its love.

Listening to our resellers podcast with her story. It hurts like I actually watched. Wonder what use and I will barring storm or for a season, unlike you're, the guy her I soon rate the little man shui right leg then, suddenly, you're, just putting up stats all over the place that at some point you find there a team in it. Can happen and just as quickly on four Warner. You remember here, really really really dicey, giant stint, among other things than he was we're back any becomes values like this lightning in about a thing and then a sudden haven't even back in He was on our show this week uncle mourning for bodies like in a week. We lose the patriots in the second, his second Superbowl. They actually be the

and they take a year they method than they come back and he's like. We start off season Owen six that that year, like it was that lots of the Patriots egg it it's good things are like we were all mess is so it took a while for us to get back there, but he said basically every season is different, but you build on the season before it. Unlike what the cardinals God bless. My love cliff and I love ants Joseph I think they're doing a great thing out there and its fun. I personally find it hard to believe I, even if the one sees that they're gonna be in consecutive games. A combination of Brady Rogers Dac Stafford, you name it and until they do it, I might be a doubt or- and this is not fair to the current group in what they have done and how they built this

sir, but to say that there, the one seat in the Superbowl favorite right now, it's I'm reluctant to do it right now, their faith and Debbie away twelve offence, third defence, the Rams or sixty Debbie away fifth off at sixty fettes. My working theory is that this is the weak actually suck everybody in they beat the ribs and an excellent cardinals, and that this is where they rope. I said this is where you know it's a Monday night. We can really watch him. I'm sure there's a lot of people who have an even watch like a complete cardinals, Guenaud, is the one eyed zone no bill if had one Thursday night game and they lost on the final play in or through a ridiculous interception, Philip hackers and that's how their defence legit good. I think that's a good idea if it's fast

three lay have I love. I have multiple game breakers on, like I like the way Connor's like this year saw their think they can run. The bar Tyler is the x factor and I just think they're better the ramp, so I you know we're going to circle back on that, but prize that the rims one that came. That's it that's. What made really ultimately made me want to do it in million dollar pics, because I think you just take Cooper Kupp out and you take the rams out. Take him out he's not doing anything are. You gonna beat us. You have been anybody in five years ahead. Guy. Do it Gerald Everett. Generally, I they are known, as that is their side had not yet ever at that guy, I don't know actually got you have that leader, who is here, though jailed ever it? Who was he killing the other day was written with the arrow he's a gay. I feel the knows there, whose the rib cited now a blanket calligraphy yeah voyages if ever it had like one of those terrible terrible,

beyond that I was like. I feel that in the past the changes dumper wording or sold correctives of now, but I just I think, if you try to take a cup cups, got there some crazy cups. That's The coroner guard games and there have out he's already about his explanation of his such down. You washed out with the replacement fires zone at a three dog Niccolo MIKE. I love it. I eat it all up it. Here's the thing, cups, a wonder. A number one Van Jefferson is a is a is a two or three and O Dell is the x factor and if we can get, I'm going to ensure arose Excalibur my dies. I look again. We rarely endeavours in good Van Jefferson Cook this week, yet talking with me then make very much it's him. As a coach of the double hug Mcveigh went first hug, encouragement and Faint Jefferson. Circling back for the second hug and

firms as yet is it. You know: Van Jefferson's, Daddy, Sean Jefferson, the old and fell wide receiver and below have grown regret, charger patriots, your and our receivers coach in a league, but like they love him, and they think you know that's why they can get rid of the Sean Jacks it's why, when Robert Woods goes down there, not losing the thought that they can number two like they believe in Van Jefferson. So let's see if he can step up in the mouse. Stop that that reminds me of the Saint stay believe case Galloway Hollow of the Magna Carta stabs Tony and I'm gonna do that. I took up my fantasy draft. It didn't really work out that well. will you take a quick break? A faint sports bug. Is guinea attend our bonus when you place twenty hours and same game parlay bad sped on a single gamers spread your bets out across multiple match ups, when everyone

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and talk about it again, and I thought I had about it. It's not. I've talked about it. Every day people. The league talking I like what happened next summer, whereas what was going on there, you go. What was that gets answers you and sell headed there remain low call time out and give the offers a chance to draw. way when they're in disarray in its jarred golf with a bunch of rookie wide receivers and no names, you call time out you come out with eight defensive backs per Did I hail marry at the back in the end zone? That's why you're buying into a shallow curl with a rookie Emmy? It was everything about. I get the fact that they fell behind by fourteen points. People are just beside themselves. How do you fall behind fourteen points to Detroit Lions You know a cliff Raymond, an amount saint raw and wherever else here, I dont think similar dimmers gonna get no matter what mean thirty nine, they might lose. Fifty! No, I think it's fine, the season, but I think is one of the areas where, at the end of the year of people, look back to that weak thirteen.

and say I know you are without Patrick Petersen and BAR and Kendrick send Dauphin Cook and whoever has its inexcusable. We could not lose that game. It's one of the worst things up reset it brought here by failing to cost us so much, and then we shall we This amazing come back. Oh, he had with her cousin sue. I didn't even know been Saleh wrote about this for the ringer on Wednesday. Her cousins is now too. Six in one is trailing heading. You know fourth quarter set high to twenty six one and even oh that and I didn't have faith in him now, it's like so here I am done I can't get on the vikings anymore. I just can't do it. I can't anything like so. Basically, Gregg Joseph He made us all that money and we have to really loved ass, the feel go now and then the Vikings took it all back from us, so we're basically net able things are now. I didn't even consider betting on biking stores. God only knows, it's gonna happen that way again, but but without Cincinnati love since

plus one and a half. I am against the Niners, the Niners there's a lot of good db away, advanced stuff with them, with their seventh db away, which does not match up with what I'm watching. When I actually watch them since he's nineteenth DV away Debo still out, he might play, don't look, he might play ABC play, he's like what sixty percent I was. I was talking to my guys their letter, like there's a hope and he was workin out. It was workin out to decide today there's a chance who knows a black eye so good that it makes a difference. Wouldn't you wait? the weak, Zog, innovate. Pious anyway, probably think load this. It's a non conference game, but why do you want a risk? I had known him out and then he's out for the year. I dont know if there that they that luxury you look at it. I mean if, if Washington rattles off a few more wins, Philly wins a couple more games in one of those Caroline Atlanta type starts winning like a couple: nothing new saints. I don't think you can take anything for granted. I think you ought to blame if he's ready Mitchell,

Looks like he's probably out we're out this again today, their down to like the fourth and fifth running back, spread one or make a back that, yes, he Ngos amiss LUCA guys include. Logan was, but I just think the lines are fighting tobacco should be favoured by too I guess, boroughs fingers freak out people. I was really impressed by them in their chargers. You know, and I lost lost forty one. Twenty two and I came away like a like the bangles. Yet they fought back, they fought back, is twenty four, nothing sound. I talked about on Sunday night they could rolled over, they didn't boroughs, hurt the corona recommend, ok, cool out, no came back and I really think of mixing doesn't fumbling. They went they had to catastrophic turnovers, that your marches play, changes everything one two and a half hidden, mixing fumbles their return, that for a touchdown, but they fought hard at his deal its December, they lost last week. Ok, whatever

back to back games in December against teams that are on the fringe, like they have to win this one. I feel like they know that this is their season. They hated the way that game went down. I think they come out and it was it This came originally was a wanna call game and they started messing with the times. It's just and thinks it's a fourth thirty game in Cincinnati, it's dark! It's it's uh, it's gonna be off, go out of your offer and that might favour the forty Niners could, but I'd always take a tough home team that can run the born. I think the bangles like this to me bro with nine fingers is like I'm going to lead us to victory, we're going to get one. I would like if this was Cincy two and a half hour bucket, soak their game to have Baltimore Baltimore Day before, since you seven and five Cleveland is six and six there's a world in which both Marlo's is there in five, since you went there. Eighty five:

Cable Windsor seven had sex and not just that ABC North keep allowing I know my guess is that the division that delivers us to force it and if the Pats can hold serve, which seems pretty conceive book ASEAN, they have one conference last. They would really have to shit the bed down the stretcher, that's probably you'd be Buffalo and that's can be Buffalo against the apes because I think that would tend to schedule? They're probably be the three say: you're gonna be ok to stare at it. Yeah the answer that allow tomorrow or since he or Cleveland hosting Josh Alan, which I think is a nice spot for the bills this paragraph twenty minutes we take it, they can window again so that they can win that game. I had so where market dance Lindsey by the way, was ten o clock one and a half yeah? That's I like that. Do we want to break

don't make a bigger we happy with just now were lying down, we're gonna come back on it, but such Browns Ravens, though a Catholic were spent on this bronze favoured by two enough over the ravens, its equipment db. Always bad even my theory of the ravens and by angle on this bed, I'm going to try to talk you into it because I felt is involved. Then I think she stinks as to UE's, does he think has injured. Whatever he has heard instinct regardless is eager correct. Now I can't believe they're not blind case. no matter understand it advocates the weirdest. Ongoing coach decision of the season eliminates geese just looking this over and over to be like injured baker by filters by best chance, but the chap hunting is back right. We're back yard back in business at other, miss the Rights ACT, The missing attack own shop did nothing. It's the ravens last time biggest game of the season for them. Ok, kitchen sinking, for them a frederick I haven't? If you will? Yes, they have

when this game, on the flip side, the ravens they lose Humphrey, they ve lost. So many people there are the left, tackle they blustered to best quarterbacks. They ve lost like their three best running bags. It's been some other injuries date. They have like, I think, forty five million dollars of just injured cat money, their offense- it just seems like teams of unlocked at this point because they can't run the ball. So now it seems that everybody's just been asked Brian Flores to that one up, and this feels like a game to me where, if the Browns go up, seven, nothing I feel great commit, I feel awesome and I just think it needs more of them. So the question is: do you think the browns are below five hundred, Isabel Lucas Game, they're, going to finish blow five hundred for the season. I don't think they are, I think, they're to me. There are nine and eight, maybe at one thousand and seventeen, but do they win by three shore at the it sounds good to me. Hear skeptical. Tell me why,

Sir this would be more like honestly. It sounds so rudimentary and if it comes down to this like Lamar Baker and neither want to find good right now, who would you rather picking a big spot in this moment taken Baker. Lamarck is at the end of the day. I think it's gonna be one of them having to make a play in a low scoring ugly, seventeen to fifteen zero eighteen to us, team had weird game where there's a two point: conversion here in an extra point miss there, and I just think I try Lamar, more than Baker. Baker has not done anything this season to be like. Yes, he can get this big win when they need it, Do you trust the ravens to shut down Shovin Hunt? I think I might because that defence they are down so many so many players and yet wink their defence, a corner with more who I've been written rolling around saying this. Guy deserves our coaching job opportunity because of what they're doing on defence. They stop everyone in it

their number one in red zone, defensible and a third down even number one in rush defence, and it's like they have nobody on the field and I trust the system. I trust the rate, system right now that in December they can shut down this and Mimi Browns. Often I don't know if it if I'm picking this one straight up, I'm Goin Ravens, but if you wanna take Browns Bill, I've been ride with you all season. Ride with you. What we're gonna disagree on another game too, if you look at ravens really since weak six, so weak seven, they get killed by Sancy Week nine week by week, weak nine. They barely be my We can't there's an egg demolished by my Emmi we're game. We throughout the third against week eleven Chicago barely went, barely went without was with with Huntley quarterback. We give our credit for that win. That's a great we're may acquire back on the road we

of Cleveland, barely when a baker really hurt leaving next year, we thirteen Pittsburgh barely lose. last week's their nineteen points. Sixteen point sixteen ten, so this game it feels like be a sixteen thirty than anything. That is what it is something that I dont Isler. I like clear possibility run the bar I'm in a market down. Maybe we go a little later, but I just I think I think the ravens it passed the point of no return, it's more better. On that that little bunches, now. Look I mean, I think our boys and set it publicly. The reason they went for two was not because they trust Lamar and, let's when it here, it was because they didn't trust their corners on defence to stop anything because they were all injured. It's fair to say that Ben look the best these look I'll, say: mortar he's dead. He went nine for ten and was like Don't they Johnson became Jerry Rice in the fourth quarter. So could Baker do that? Could you

wide open and other members that are being covered with receivers. I think they such people back in this next one bucks bills, bucks by industry over the boat. We talked about the bill cited as I'm still by in the box. I saw bucks packers as just I believe about those themes, the bucks, I think everyone's except Antonio Brown, now they're home, as you pointed out, really get it on. They don't lose at home. There awesome the bills gone from weird Monday night, forty bout hour when game to all the plain in Florida in MID December late afternoon, kind of a guideline for thirty game on the issue, it's. It's nansen Romo on the coal and, like I said, Brady, has ever really having problems with their buffalo team. I'm so delighted to believe the three I thought can have the lay like four and a half five just bucks minus three great. I think the bug through to beat the bills. I d to the alternative is Ike. Mrs bug is his bills, goods,

What are you, but I can make an arena. They can answer the bell. Suddenly, I don't see it happening, so I go at the bucks answer, This is an interesting one, because if the bucks win, the paths are basically their crews in it but does the bills- are now really in trouble, the bells that they have no chance in the division. Less pats completely shit bet so that the path sunbeam apply this week and they could be winning and again cards rams cards by honest to increase the lack of respect for a really good team really get season, and I'm cyber cliffs. going to figure out a way to use at least the little bare right did. I nobody thinks you guys are good. Yes, he never they all year. Nobody believes in it we're not even favoured by feel nobody thinks we do. We belong in this division. Do we want to go through the quick

where it back story on Mcveigh and kings, very that they talked about on flying cultural quicker, Addle engender as yet, though mcveigh- and I hope this back ass we bought non cliff prolonged, I'm and we bring kings round like arts and what is worse, the impetus of your friendship, because as much as you guys are young offensive cautiously in a fella, whereas you go back when Cliff got fired from Texas And it's like week, eleven of the NFL season. Everyone obviously stays quite when some their job Gimme, the first call he got was making Who is I got what you wanted for our office of staff like I'll bring on, and he said he didn't know that will be Mcvay came out of the woodwork It was a gallop I'll hire you right now like. What do you want to do for us and hands up entertaining that idea and then goes to you seated. Their offensive corner then gets the Chechen review for the head coaching tab and then the cardinals one takes the carnival He's been forever indebted to Sean

go to the NFL challenges, thinner, annihilates costumes like the first two years they play that is blow out there. We do our flying coach this off season. We have found that a little bit and then I spoke to both guys before the game. Earlier, the see them, I click, add an edge to our worries. I could not happen again like I'm, not I'm not losing to this guy again and he gets his answer and obviously they went this week. I think this is like a cool deal between the two, where I think Mcveigh did not like the fact that they got embarrassed at home by kings, Mary, and I think it is clear When this moment right now, where it's your kings very toxic, players a little differently kings. Berries practices are a little different where that was kind of Mugabe's deal for a couple years. There were, he will now it's like. Maybe he's an ex kings various posts at the next Mcveigh in its it, you say well, who cares, are not playing the game, but the coaching it. I think this game means a lot sides and I kinda. I'm gonna role was shown on this one and on the road

season on the line and away stuffing version, and I'm going well come on. Go with him. Come on. You don't believe the sincere come on. Stop stop now like just just let it go, let go what this way and now in hey. What do you know what you thought you'd Santa? Santa Carla. What is it to New York City? It's every twenty year old guy like I'll walking around New York City in Santa Costume, drunk hell walk around Saturday. I just found out about, I think, can ruin my weekend. Where would you thought to be on Santa kind car? Would you gotta Santa? Can you would it cost now, he's isn't monitored is back on. Ethics is never. It's lovely every Hoboken allowing guy takes a fixture subway

our train into New York and you will end on this. Thousands and thousands of drunk twentysomethings in Santa costumes. No, it was Saturday until just now and kind of ruin. My weekend, I it's too bad. We couldn't have done a bat were I'll, take the cards you take, rams and you have had a kind of feeling. Well, since I define you with two, these fix amateur You on one of your pick out. One of my picture. You wanna do a bad cubey under parlor. Yes, I thought it would be fun, so we have a text and see hawks game which has the one and only Davis bells and Attacks seem that if you just go look at their schedule week by week, there has grim, but while they have no, instead of battle and another game, might there met his eye just go for the topic. They beat the Titans, which was really odd, and then they went back to their old selves right. So we have that one and that we also have a Saint jets case of hell verses.

Zack I threw over they George bows our Wilson S, taste them Simeon, I'm not sure. If we see Simeon somebody does either my face of semi. First. Is that so Joe flagpole MIKE White, whoever you out of there I had so. This was your idea. Maybe we could mess with the lines on fanned or we can take Texan Seahawks. We can make that under forty. Six and a half we had jacket up the adds another minus two and ten. We could also take saints jets weak, jack that up to forty, nine and a half did have to score fifty points to lose. I don't care. If chimera has five touchdowns, it won't be enough. That's minus two: fifty you put those together that parlay, as plus one o six, let's it Sophie Bet, whatever its plus one six, it's a pie, it would be a positive, come back! That's the Santa

on special. This organic called out the Santa Claus. Especial texted Seahawks under forty six now saints jets under forty nine and a half. So they think about this text and see how so the score that would beat us is like twenty seven and twenty Davis Mills just lighted up in the second half and killing us. I don't see it thing is really really you'd be taxed. May favour let's go to Houston, we're Davis, because his for it to get we're gonna. Do that anyone we ve got J Phalion, Spiro Data in Houston and Davis Mills just through an eighty art bomb to Nikko call in my God last one. I want to get the cowboys in here, because I am not by in this wash the thing at all, I'm just added. I find it all.

I watched a game last week, the forty or feel that what I said earlier, we been good to us. The last few weeks, washings been good. Us did not think that was gone through ears by case cowboys favoured by four in Washington. Some just ask you fundamentally: do you think the cowboys? This is on a neutral fields, cowboys by six and find that yeah, maybe a little less than a touch, sound yeah, I'd, say six. I have six six and a half centre. I've had its a home game for washing, so the lad, skews down record scratch. Rex screech. This isn't. A home game for washed there's gotta be ninety percent cowboys where there is a whole gave her Dallas we're getting doubtless in a home gay minus war. There is like this lake and you know they exist everywhere and you ve got friends like Washington. Fans runs deep and like when they start their client like they do come.

the woodwork little, but I know that stadium was empty the first few weeks, but cowboys weak. I could see a good one think continually like I'd like to show my faces wicked: let's go where it was the one thing we we, we will route for his efforts, the cowboy so about with you. I think in Jerry, had really interesting comments is weakened, critiquing. The route running of wide receivers and MIKE This is where the cowboys get in trouble like when, just when you want to get a little comfortable, Jerry Resources, his head and said Cynthia and you got nowhere that come in from is at the coaching staff stay and that to him is that some are very, very curious to see what in a Dallas we get this week and if it's good Dallas like it, was against the saints orbits bad Dallas like it was against the writer.

I would say their favorite here, but I would also mean I prefer to stay away and, as washes game from Afar lab, an idea lasted last two weeks washed in they were. They were seventeen points against the out of this great seventeen points against Vegas not had an office of juggernaut. At this point, no doubts, as defence is finally health. Again, they are, if you get the memo, everybody's back raced back the team that held our Lord Savior MAC Jones under twenty points. The last time the patriots last there they're back. My thought is this: we put them in a parlay with packers to beat the bears do think. The bears additive beat the Packard circumstance zone of shocked and b c in the NFL kept. There came a Sunday night. and then we have the chiefs I am against the raiders like that, and we could just put all those three teams just a win, Cowboys Packers Chiefs,

and we get any sort of parliament that one. Ok, I'm doubtlessly that suit you put the three, thus together, plus one ten shrinks. Ok, I'm in possible drew who beats us. I mean I, I guess, the cowboys without losing the Packers or the chiefs. Now, that's that's. Why, King TIM winds, twenty two seventeen and were kickin ourselves like. We know that, but that's ok, if you wanna, let's go with it. It seething. Washington is for them when this game, I'm gonna laid out for you, because I I harry I'm a little word cause date. There have been a little here that look clutch, especially if they win this game. This thou means washed his for real. and Tailor anarchy is now like a real starting quarterback like a top fifteen guy Phoebe. Now a healthy, DOW esteem with eighty eighty percent das- in that instance, he beat Brady he be can webcam was all lego. Crap cam is back. He does far better.

and he be lasting, Derek car every this guy? He wins, games, Then you look at what they ve got left on their schedule and I hate being schedule guy they only play the energy. I know how wrong is operating right now. He's talking of these guys in we went out were in the clouds were division champions like we pay the cowboys twice by the Eagles twice by the giants. One time let's go into our thing and their young they are playing loose and gosh. I could see them winning their game. ok, but heard you put the cowboys and do you think no area? I hear it. Ok, we're gonna come back with the milliner picks and we're going to reveal our underdog parlay Of the way. Hey. You ever wondered. Make your home feel safer. There's no better time. The now our friends at simply safe are giving bills. Him is past listeners early access to other

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I believe our picks. I promise you by the way. This is the only path cast of two thousand twenty one with them. With with gambling on the edifice followed by Paul Thomas Anderson, the world's greatest living director park estimate yeah he's coming up, that's actually the trailer with a little you been looks amaze, it's fantastic Girl from Hame I'm, let's go hide all did I say I love it couldn't the whigs. So we had four of these and thirteen weeks and if you add up- the matter money we won in the four weeks versus the nine losses. It's like the legitimately profit about. It makes wonder like should next year just be under

earlier this week, and we need to fix if you got away more profitable, just to bear the introductory other this week we're looking at Falcons Giants falcons. I dont like the falcon stirred thirty second Debo, but it's really just though its exact gonna get the cabinet have just cameras. They they fired the offence accordingly, any often coordinator, scoop gets fired halfway through by we might Larry was that he stepped around with another job. No, I wasn't like an affair is a, but you are right that he wasn't coming back. Acting wasn't working and I think, they ve Joe, was dear me, said Lizzie Prize. I now wait. That's not I'd like it was a favor to me, but by doing this now A million college offensive corner jobs using a paint about loader money in it fine. If they waited till, mid January. Are those jobs are filled and he's kind of a bad spot? So I don't know you can look at it a bunch different ways, but I think that that relationship was

was done end. They decide to cut ties now, knowing that net LISA leaves and opportunity for job ready to do some other things. How many passes Joe Brady Watch can throw into the ground over the head of a wider receiver in practice and in real games for his like, I gotta, find it will. The irony is that, like they brought Joanne because he was with Teddy Bridges a new Orleans and whose, like idea there, you put those guys together, they ve done it, they really get along. Well, then they got rid attacking our aid. Now go on. Go on with Arnold Okhinnah. Go work we can I'm not sure how many offensive corners would have had a successful year with what they had to go and on that season I don't who is the leader in the capacity? I can't believe you did that. Third, the two thousand twenty one draft would have whatever the rankings outbreak airline and may be one thither, Jesse Horn over back or fields, and then they change the second for Darnel. You can't do worse that are now in argument would be like what's Jason Bourne,

really go the first couple weeks in season like aid, have you gonna go and do flips over Patrick Sudan? We took chasing armor. Foreman you might have a better and if your career, but the injury really does not reveal too much optimism. Mac Jones is just slicing up to and you can be in the parliament who quarterbacks on the board and a year later, you started a quarterback about two draft that occur to wreck die after world that I simply so we're lookin at Falcons Giants the giants. I mean it's a it's a longshot its alongside, but a chick Fromm. Let's go giants right now, have an Thomas Aziz, O jewellery, Jake, Fromme, tray crowd or Lorenzo Carter, Isaiah, Wilson and J. I read they all played at Georgia. Together, they're all playing in this game as, like starters, they are the Georgia Bulldogs from a couple years ago, gonna play the chargers is weakened the date the case for this disease should the charges be favoured by not an app went somewhere. Anybody in its levied odyssey, weird things happen

the NFL, the giants who know sick one might go nuts. Let's go. Oh, I watched a chargers blow at twenty four, nothing led by three to guide a broken finger. I, like a just stay, They seem like a logical hundred I'll pick. The other one we're lookin out was Texan Seahawks, but we can get there, I'll, be out of society. Great ended up fairly weak, but but we hit by an and we will hear too yeah. Ok, I hear a pig's knowing our picks for weak thirteen turned fucking camera Kyle. We are down little under Diana two thousand for the year. We are due for big weak, and it's gonna happen right here. We're gonna go big on two games. We're gonna go smaller on four bets and where do the Enron, partly first one, the tamper bay buccaneers by precision Superbowl PIC, I had the bucks first

patriots. We have seven mega video that will become my legacy. Much like I don't know, the godfather was copal as legacy the vote. You don't get back documentaries now the Beatles legacy, my seven minute, patriots, Bugsy Project, could be that might a last point when you realise by be studying its twenty centuries from, when you ve got Henry Hill listening to it in the shower like us to lift owns a high since you got me sold, it was you also said Rahman drain. Damien errors are the thinking man's Nick Job agreement, not a damp, and even when it made that made sense or not. They might be better than children. What right now so, like I'm bill, I'm in let's go. I tried people thought I was dead as a bit

I really believe they thought it was she never gave up. Is that I don't do stick with pics. I like being right. I like putting money. I like being right. Those are my two things bucks three over the bills. I think the air is going up for the Bucs, especially another get people back asked if they can run the ball in this bills. Came I like the way for gnats and Ronald a Joneses looked ok, too, but I think the Brady he's got envy in his now time to put a substantial, moved, the bomb the chance Brody by his three Brady. Thirty, two and three all time against Buffalo that not by a normally or coincidence, that logo radios it I'm well with the box as well. That is ninety percent, or so we are going to put five hundred thousand dollars. Let's go beyond the bucks. Bucks monastery gets those are the big bad We both by glad this week to bangles plus one and a half at home. Again San Francisco, he cold

Chris Spare Cincinnati the hard turf. You know they have spent a lot of money and that, on that fake grassy says that at guessing they deftly cut corners and that they get it he's gonna be like some not a fun feel to play on Sunday, yeah Niners, banged up Bengals little banged up dams little more banged up this to me as a Jimmy G thing, I'm so glad the Patriots went back Jones and didn't try to set Grandpa for Jimmy GI from what I've seen week after week. I answer it feels like he's losing his confidence or a bit. I dont see this part from him. I don't see that Canada that little tying swagger, the guy you might sit down next year girlfriend when you're in the back Taylor away where's that, like that guy where'd it, where did he go, he's gone bangles, plus one and a half or put five hundred thousand. That is well yeah. That's contrast you, since you come on and then for smaller bets when you put two hundred can't each of these

agree with this one browns minus two and a half part of our ideal. As you might conciliatory. Sometimes we disagree happened in the godfather Tom Hagen and end the Corleone. Sometimes they didn't see eye to eye, but they always respected the process. The family we're gonna, go brands by two and a half. I just have a few about this one I'll be your radio had on play. I will be your Tom Hagen. I will be saga, let us not my head right so too do shakes. Does degrade the down arrow, a brown by two and a half brown she's giddily just get at some point. Led baker throws about twelve times. Take us up next, when you're good this when he their cards minus two against Ramsden. I am buying the cards this week. This is to regulate. This is

they will listen? They really ready a card saw there might be parts boxes, it who's the best at an end that eventually the letter stamp, but its act would be this week. I don't trust, is Ramstein we're in a put two hundred k, brands modest enough to undertake cards by two two hundred k, plus one ten cowboys hackers chiefs, all them after that. One. I like that when I like you like that would end. This is yours. Is your bet, but two inch. Can this Saint account Seneca the Santa com, parlay the weak, Texan Seahawks under forty six and have seats. it's under forty nine and a half parlors, plus one o six open to educate that your conduct, the Santa com under parlay, where we just go, get back you bees and hope discourses hate, Santa Carla or voting against this one? We don't like points we are going under sweetly upon. No, we don't want fun, you don't look, we do what takes six it.

Fumble tat sounds a lot. We want a gray, we want punting, we want thirteen fourteen we want draw plays, and seventeen and little wide receiver screens rocket working and never had clock with Ngos, and never one here addresses Leon over Scott Hansen's voice. No read some just right from forty to forty. That's what we want this Why would they ended up proudly the week which costs vandal? one point one million dollars last week in re real money, not merely Dar picks. My factually lost several figures on this last week were for night on these, which is actually winning were figure. Flyer, falcons giant went not going against the weird charger steam it's war about. Should the charges be favoured by most ten points over anybody, probably not should came Newt be favoured. Over anybody, probably not so we're gonna play the odds, Falcons Giants plus eight. Ninety, I'm! In a boost this up the tender one shyly, invest

oh for permission or doing it anyway, yeah ten to one. Those are the main topics for weak fourteen Peter Sugar, but essentially miscreant loved whatcha. Watch the Music Box Documentary Data about Mr Saturday night, the lot of Brooklyn stuff Is there a lot earlier glad? I'm are our records thy love, Sir Knight Fever. I love the in the whole bears on a bridge in everything with we'd, be Ridge, I can't wait I'll watch it. It's good. Ok, it was the good morning. Football is Cow Brandt. What's he doing in Vienna, and show this began. He is, he like took like a stoic photo of himself in the blue Jim. What was that, I don't know, did I think, he's doing sees us up. His sleeve CBS will promote his brigades Jesse, yes on Sunday morning, he's on their showing you ve got something very dramatic. I'm sure you're on CBS on our land. Fox here, today's on CBS your head tat. This is like this is a wrestling. This would be how somebody gets it. I still chair of the Hudson

don't break the Cosby show is just go and find it in the Simpsons came in and were like. No, no, no, we on Thursday night. This is because work it out, and I have been a good to see you as always. Good luck in the MC, vague kings bar. Thank you. I promise Edison is here shall fantasy issue? We did this in December of two thousand seventeen years came into my office back when people interacted and we discuss phantom thread the movie both shouted. I really loved you meant. During that time, your lamp calamus arouse something good, but you're elusive. We're doing this and zoom. I just want to say I had so much fun when we're in the studio together I ate if we could get fifty percent there therein, the zoom obvious, but I know you're doing these interviews. I zoom it's. Probably you probably feel the same way as we do right. I do

but I mean well my proof. I would prefer to be on the telephone and even but but preferring to tell if I were a wider audience you I couldn't be in there you are, we would we would have done it, yeah we could have said Charlotte. Odds varies fearful about contact. That's not true! I would have loved to have seen Paul. I don't need to see you bill, but I would have loved your shirt off of eight. So last time we did this. I told you about my process for moving Where I try to avoid everything I try to go and sit in the theater and have the expense filmmaker wanted me to have which it. Yes, I go in with their baggage. Watch the movie. I react to it. yeah. I do you had to first time actors, I guess we'll cut. I didn't realize one of them was from home so the credits, even though she looked familiar, I didn't realize it was filled. Seymour, Hoffman son until like a week later, and I told show us that of the Taos Hoffman son, I'd I'd

idea, I'd know baggage with a sigh. I was looking at it really objectively and at that both of them were so great. You ve talked about the process with this, but the Hoffman connection. You talked about last time, you're out with him night. Ye did six movies with him and I are directing it. Son, and it seems like it. You took a roundabout way tat even get there and cast him. So can we talk about that course the agreement. Also her I mean I'm glad you you. Obviously, the things that you're lookin out are able to cattle feed, you information that you want and need and you're able to avoid stuff, so you can go into movie cleanly. That's that's! That's great! That's great! So Cooper! You won't have a Cooper, Korea Hooper whatsoever in the end the and the lineage his mean his dad was in

movies that any actor you, I think you ve done movies with right. Yes, so it was. It was was probably a no brainer, but in the end you know you know anything, it's no brainer! You have to make a struggle. Somehow you have to trust, make sure that our are you go through some search? We just recast. how many traditional way initially, you could have occurred in directorate you, the shaping of a certain type you between the ages of fourteen and said, Nineteen. It could be eighteen or nineteen as long as they look a bit younger ancestor of any description, and then we saw a series of actors. Some which were very good, most of which, were you know, very irritating and kind of polished and, like you like, ready ready. For I don't know something shiny and kind of, not you not not not right,

and but more than point, even with some of the actions that were good, they weren't connecting with Ilona shit. You could just see in her face like there's, you just sit and across the table from someone who's like saying lines is more little, probably a little bit more interested in their own vanity or like getting up. You know series? Then then, then, what aren't wise Juno, they were really not trying to connect so that my thoughts turn to Cooper because I asked myself like I do. What do I know any there charming, personable empathetic grounded in connected. Themes. Sixteen seventeen year old boys was like well yeah. There's one right in front of your face. We ve known since you were a child said since it was a chop and that's it that's how it began. and, I suppose There is a long time

navigation of feelings, you stood a wonder like Hon, forgetting the process of making the foam because you know that that can be wonderful, create. collaborative experience, but let me jump ahead to what it means to put movie, to the world and and and have to have him that and what does it mean and at work? weighing all them pros and cons of all that built there. But it's worked out quite well very problem, whether both pretty great- and I felt you here all the time like when and actors guided, our young kid has got they just they had at that, like an indescribable charisma or something but still be put to people who ve never act in a film before at the centre of your movie like how do you coach them through how to be this of a film. How are you gonna teach them on the job? How to do it? what is it

I'll tell you what I'll tell you that there are probably to their due who equally waited sides to this continent that wanted One is a, but there's a dial. in a discussion about what the story is in all that time, stuff what you'd probably trying to do too much of because you you want instincts- and you just want facts you dont want- I do I not directed at needs, have endless was dialogue about motivations and always kind of nonsense. It's like it's either there and are clear to them or not it s, not joking. Is that what you really need to do with two people in an ever done before? Is that she needed teach them very, very pragmatic things and other work. Did you get enough sleep last night? What did you eat this morning? When was the last time you ate? I mean I'm really not joking. It really is, like you know, due to two took two to go for sixty five days of shooting a thumb where ten hours do those ten

your shooting for ten our days beginning with kids and your shooting every second of those ten hours you, maybe you take a breath, for ten? Fifty minutes we turn around, but it really a high level of concentration is needed and you bitch How much of it is just really pragmatically making sure that they have the stamina to place themselves, I told them very early on, I said there will, if you think that you can push off learning a scene until the middle of the movie you know like, like you, would school homework you're, making a huge because once we start you'll be you'll, do you would just be playing catch up, you'll, be and learn a big scene, the Sunday night, before approving a shooting and on a Monday and you'll, where do it because you'll be so exhausted? You won't have any clarity, so they they learn the script really from the beginning to the end, before we even started bad months and months to prepare so that were always ready at a moment's notice to do what was needed in the movie

but again with a sixteen year old boy, I'm in seriously. You know she alone knows how to go into her. So she knew how to compare yourself through that, but Cooper. Even now You can see that he doesn't wake up until eleven o clock in the morning. Normally on about you or I want- the schedule good scenes after three referring afternoon. You know it sounds kind daily, but it's really really true because and the reason why backs the most because their instincts and then their natural talent is what you're trying to preserve and make happen. You're not trying to get them. Then some headway in saying that a new, no direct movie director, trying to trick them into not dog, is common sense. The slight bus silliness. What about them? what about the parenting lineage with you, because you for kids, you ve couple teenagers is: did that, make it easier to kind of walk Cooper through them

and even even a lotta like I know, she's older, but it's her first movie so away it's it's she's like another. Basically, a movie teenager below he's an adult, but you have the kind of work them through. No yours, actually right I mean it's exactly right. You picked up on it is that my my years is a dad is back came into play just knowing that the management of moods and and emotions and and and dumb do you know It is time management when you're a teenager, we'll cut time management. Did you possibly with a teenager. You know you did not like it's also elastic and confused but you never really think to do anything in advance of it. So yeah I think I recognise that is it as a dad and then I applied it tells you feel like it. I think they are better time management skills. Then our generation did because I, like your your way more conduct.

to everybody Ray and there's more reschedule, it's easier to keep a schedule. I feel like our generation was completely, The aim was set up to the kids. It must stop. It's probably. probably more like liquid, like just yeah, yeah yeah, I guess you got known remind you at all times where he spoke here. What is supposed to do, but nevertheless I Now there is an instinct sure, there's a kind of thing inside teenagers that they'll get to it in a minute, get to it in a minute, get to it in a minute. and those minutes evaporate, can you talk about em saw. The lotta like lead, got never acted before but is this revelation, is parliament's she's gun. I read some of this stuff, the last couple days like as people, everybody gets it. They get me China do it this and she's everything in one from a movie. This happens sometimes when you discuss bring somebody

in a movie that you ve never seen before, and that a lot of times for me, that's my favorite part cause. You feel, like you're kind of meeting somebody you falling for them, whatever way there, as did the friend you as one aid or somebody of oppression or whatever you ve done this person. For a long time. At what point did you go see here like carrying a movie. That's a pretty big Lee, From just somebody, who's onstage and in your life, that's true and it was about forty. Years ago, five years ago I would say I'm out we copy start working together so sudden, seven or something years ago. And by the way it operates. Also it's not just the it's not just the through, whereas that she could do but an awareness of what this story is, and this kind of perfect aligning of about food.

From elements. I hang on a second there. She is in front of my face. There's this story about a girl. It works in doing this and there's this is peace in this p this is all kind of aligning, unlike like completely undeniable, but. She, Funny I I kept really getting very nervous when I first showed the movie two people, because I think you get burned quite concerned that you have a cool aid you'd been drinking. Your own coolly that you have like spent a year of your life staring at the performance, and you like, like if someone's going to turn around. So I don't know what happened to you. He's absolutely lost it. You know b12 lusional. This girl is not that good. I don't know what you saw on her, because I just kept seeing his performance in front of my face. Like

when is this gonna? When is she finally going to show up and not and not be able to be, hitting doubles triples, like fucking, now inside the par comrades I teach by on fire she's, just absolutely incredible. The watch- and I guess I I instinctively knew from working with her, but and they once she was reading the script allowed just sitting in the living room reading it if you saw what I saw, I wouldn't have been so crazy- wouldn't have been such a leap, it would you you wouldn't have sat there too and like yeah I mean that this is just like me, Words are coming out of her mouth like she's, making them are Did she sounds like she's improvising, even though she's reading something straight from the script, What there's something about Alana she's, the baby, family. I says: she's got this like she's got

This, like terrier energy, like cards like half carrier, have rights, and that is all she's always scrap and for a fight, even though she smiling and she's. I got this real soon, energy- and this smiled at just beams he's not just scrapper she's a little Sheila laugh heads credibly In quality, in general, but particularly in some character and found him. I'm babbling, you guys get me bad one. Would you know this is this? Is it why you wanted to come back gotcha? What what why This movie go to the front of the line for you like. Why was this the one they shows them? I was thinking about, as it is at this stage or out is apparent. Is thinking about your childhood? Why did it become the thing to do? You know it's very. Question: do it just did like thing lives? I collide

the timing of it all was see me, you don't make even going to make movies for timing. That's not even the answer is just the sort of one thing, just something just to start coming over you taking over. It's like you see it headed you see the horizon You see the end of this is like. The end of the tunnel, and you just start having towards you like this? Is this is happening? I knew halfway through writing it that everything Who's gonna be abandoned them that I had to make a market schedule and say this is good so well? This is happening, on powerless to stop it? Even after doing a system of checks Ass, isn't checking yourself and say like a book, make another movie in the valley again, when one make another movie to take place in eighteen? Seventy you know, because you here you're, one of your struggles should be as a person does this just to make a variety of different worked to not have everything will be something different. So as a matter of fact you trying to

Yourself out of it- and you know that if you can't then then what he then you'll have to keep going, but the story- you don't know anything about being apparently just into a clearly because also to the other thing, is that I was. That if you're writing what you know, I'm surrounded by teenagers a lot these days, I got them cut crawling all over my living room or pick them up or driving them places. You know and that's pretty easy to help. Get you back in touch with the stuff that you went through as a teenager. Does it gets you get your mind running about those times, while I loved being in the valley in the ninety. Seven is with the again arrives. Devastated you didn't do like the brief crossover wink to my beloved buggy nights. Have somebody living next door to Amber waves. Just like us. It was just a great as at thirty ever waves,

Driveway would suffer either of you. You ve got backwards a few times now, with this movies and this island, I love being back in eighteen. Seventy three young and. It really made me think that I I need to see this again, I'm so psyched that it's at its in Westwood at that Awesome movie theater I'm going to go back a second time, but it made me think of is different time of social interaction that we're talkin him for it on the zoom about just how different everything is down. How connected people are all the time and you can. Literally talked anybody want or text Amor there there, but there, really there a lot of times their distracted and in this era she wanted to see somebody. Might not be able to see them. You may not know where they are. Young might not be able, and into them. You may go to to spots and they're, not their young, all that this justice different air about with

One of the reasons you wanna do this like just gone backwards into that era. It wasn't one of the reasons, but God it was a huge appeal. I'll tell you it was. It was exciting to think of situations that at least have some goddamn. Mr Perry she's all been yanked away from us. I mean fuck him mystery anymore, which is really a drag. I don't know you know, that's, ah, that's p will not again where the people, you know a generation Caesar's problem problematic. Now they eventually will come on it's our lawyer. I'm a collection of pictures of my song, ah up from the places all over the world and its it's him standing at phone booth All over the world abandoned phone, generally. You now generally do to get a six year old to take

a receiver off the hook and stare at it? Is its flight, the dying man, miraculous collection of a phone, both pictures I bet they do know what they are thoroughly, but the first couple of him looking at it as if he had no idea what it was. I thought was set the tone for the collection- and you know the kids when they were filming the with pinball powers that sequence there. There was a double there. Not only you know they were they hands. each other in a long time, because of all the way the world had gone, but they were face to face then that we all had when it's our Kader a machine that that day, they felt gypped their light that we want this read we will then we didn't. I went on why we will have this, but this is good enough for us

because they realize it was. Maybe it was a little bit about combined machines burn. It was about a central meeting. Point then find and looking cranny in an alley way behind where you good smoke cigarette or make out with a boy or find here. Do you know what ever you needed? You could. and whether you rode your biker got dropped off areas is important. something a little bit more interesting than I don't know a fuckin mom. I you know wait. Balls are coming back, be careful, not all come back. I don't understand it, but bye, bye, bye, suds, but go to the ball lately in its like a thing apparently you know what I'm ok with it. It's, I suppose some of it I don't know

the Moslem. All these days, you know malls are like their backlog delay universal by thy, a recreation of an actual street with state of the art. Ever they used a veil of different. The movie looks like there's a lot of fun to make, but you you made it during covert like was actually just upset horrible was it Was there a challenge that was interesting about that great? While we were meant to start shooting movie in May so It was that we were all on course to another shooting two thousand twenty, that's right, yeah so and then we stopped me. And we just sort of sat waiting and waiting and waiting awaiting the first opportunity we had was to start in August of twenty twenty and made me look. There was a lot of people really suffering. We were voluntarily going into a situation to make a movie, so it was my mother

playing about that. We like we, we to do what we wanted to do, which was to give ourselves something something to aim at each day the IMF same thing about it, was no. It's not directing the mask nothing's that one doing enough in a mask, but the way that it was, but the great thing was that all our families are. Might my kids friends their families is interconnected group of people felt in Annabelle pressure to down the hatches dont be the idiot. The goes runs around the weaken it does something stupid were light, is only one mission in its makings movie. And you can do anything for sixty days. If you put your mind to it. So, let's get on with it so there feeling that you are doing something special where's, their pressure. Even if, even for just surviving right. You know what the most excited person was, the guy

in our somewhere and allay who had a hundred classic old cars that you needed to spread around sitting right back, I might have been delighted at that here. You're making will be, they did seventy three that don't tell you, they were the most happy because their generally individuals that you can hire out right. You have a service and you should some guys have more than others, but their people that you how can you not made enough period? Folks know you, you have a call sheep and they loved it the most because- they were gonna roll up nine. I worry about getting tested therein. He dropped a bag, full of nineteen sixties, seventies, clothes ass to be thrown them on and then drive around in circles all day and given the radio and they never had to get out of the car, they never run risks. They were. more than happy, but we were starting up at a time when, when even background extras were, were reluctant to get into the game, because nobody quite knew what it was gonna be. It

Luckily, we didn't mean need that many. We need them at the teenage fair sequence you wanna get arrested and we need them in your wax are met Campaign obviously needed some extra help their books. other than that everybody seeing the movies somebody we know we know personally, is a friend of ours. I let's get her. The part shown really cares about more than anything right them. Why that shopping? So we know you have a list of the actors, you, don't you dare to tell us the less. They know it's your secret list, but where's, seven, nine, eleven out of their how many actors and actresses I and they began to work with this person. At some point you mentioned in the last part, we did he thought by LEO like. is the Ugandan Buggy Knights and nearer like, while at some point some point I'll get it? it'll happen. I know what happened at some point in my life, you are actually had a baby, his dad in this movie, but then? I'm guessing was on the list at the top, if not very close to it.

And has been for a number of years, number of years now, let's get lights. His has been since I saw an esprit coolly. Why are you I mean I shant was: are Robert Deniro Right, that's for sure why a hundred per cent he was ass, counted as poor as elusive and just downright rad right then so, and also the mythology around his is commitment to his characters getting in character, staying characterised this kind of stuff, but on so I've known shown for a number of years, and I have been asking him. I asked him to play the off from In a part in Bulgaria nights near beloved, bookie nights. I asked him to play their part thinking that that would be great.

Man you work, have I got the right man for the job, just like that's that when you say so by that I need time to recover around was saved by guys we it's a dangerous game too, that we are here to hear directors say sometimes a somebody that was their first choice can always rattle you, because there are inevitably fucking totally wrong and I'd they. What were you thinking and- and you always end up getting the person you're supposed to get all always that happens, every single time and directors sometimes can ever see. they ve been. They have certain blind spots or they think something would help their former people to go, see whatever it is, and if you're lucky you, you think, Should you know someone who smart like showered turned me down and no I'm not a guy made me want to work as minister flattering, but we'll get to it, and I continue to ask them to play cards- that he probably was right for so this was like.

You write this one for him, or were you wear it? Why can't thinking I kept thinking he not going to say no to me this time, and now I'm I'm old enough and wise enough to know that I'm going to force him to do it. If he's and now that I will be letting him know that he is wrong, and I'm right, you have to do that. So guy thought I out of him straight away, as I was writing it because it's I'm William Holden Type character, and you know you know and that's that means gravity that beautiful face that he has now you know. Is he gets all burn is looks and cooler than ever and elsewhere. The guys we grew up with a guide, the the guys who looked like they ve had a few cigarettes and if she scotch their day. The latest elect them, those at nice, close zombie. You could see the years starting. He moved on their face or a bit. I always lie

the I always liked, especially at this at the inn at this time, so the seventy Germany to very frequently for they would still have the same hair cut. They always have been the little fibre- and that was that was just that little touch to current trends and are always looked so out of place so strange. Looking back it yeah William or blame all than drawing up was my favorite actor. I hear mine and he did. He reminded me of my father and my father's friends. They all kind of looked like bad. They looked like they'd be bodies. Drinking bodies Storytelling bodies this of stuff, I William Holden, like Sean, is also like a little elusive. You know he he added you know, he's always. Where is he while he's? Were you think

is: is saving eighty you saving offering you the chance. Work with cars are incredible. Like an you know, I can remember one there could be commentary about, or Marcie Commentary about his his desire to save the world, nor was laughing when he had stadium up and running right in the middle of a pandemic and There wasn't anything start you could say about back was testing million people a week when everybody was falling down. So and William Hold and had a similar kind. Words adventurous spirit. Were playing the M that game last night. When done our talking. Like always this breezy, that allow on his carrier- is reading the script from in front of pieced together, but the real and not real Hollywood stuff. you, ve made of the movie just feels really steeped in like a Hollywood legacy. Like

Any other movie that you made even recasting, well known, filmmakers, kids or LEO's. Dad like was all of that like something that you originally started with three one build this almost like minimise Rushmore to Hollywood history. Now I just coming my way, because the story gent, the genesis of the story is with this guy Gary gets men who the producer, if it were Tom, Hanks, bruising partner, back up, use, giant dummies producing partner, up to the original incarnation of his life? He was a child actor. in the valley. And so I thought I was just following his life following his he is career path, which seemed to collide with every peripheral show his person or even large scale. Showbiz person he's just bouncing and satellites are offering all these people, so that was all fact that was like

That was just me telling the story. As it was told to me- and you know I would look up things at the amusing was that com is my number one source of research like the allay times, basically need Pudding Gary guest. When you can go back- and you can find these these some quick little bits of like valley, entertainment life like Young, Gary Gatesmen, will be singing and dancing at the Chad NEWS and Sherman oaks. This Friday night is a marvellous young, entertainer and with with chatting- girls Chinese grows, never say. Never, even if our stuff, I'm gonna, lie okay, so he's in the bow. I'm doing this showbiz thing, then sing. He knows his is you got a pardon divorce american file, they got pardon yours, minors or So now is on his way to the at solving show with burlesque dancers, chaperone him Kiki page. We lived in his neighborhood psych. Ok, keep Kiki page. Will look her up and

it just keeps gathering in and more China oddball showbiz stop as it goes. Along takes. detours in the water by World Googe, but always has attached to the end. Sizing world, and that was that, when I was, I was witnessing this world. I know this was my dad's voice over stuff. That he was in so that was familiar to me all that kind of light dj in radio and advertising stuff. I threw drew up near enough to that stuff. It was light. It was just speaking too Like I know this, I mean I know this, as well as a new anything what reaction, beggar at some point: you're, like hey, I'm working on this movie? these guys kind of based on you a little bit but its it. It goes well beyond that, but you are, One of them for a long time, right, you're, also taking liberties with certain things, your creating you know, your own version of whatever of the narrative but you're taking these little pieces. What is that like for him to watch it.

I think it's very satisfying, that it's the fictional eyes Puget thirteen version attack better. I think that he didn't take it seriously. for the longest time and thought. Maybe I was just good years we're going by and I was still got, I would go back to Nor is it really? Why can't you just gotta, ask me something about the waterbirds and, I think the course of many years. He just maybe he was staring size up. I wonder if he really serious about this until the point when I had a false grip, I say: ok, I'm I'm serious, I'm gonna do it And you said of the Microsoft word Doc file prescribed having given you heard about from last year. you know, There's no automatic got out my approach right. I think it's great.

say where that are like final draft. That still haunts me I'm a loner tells a story he's, sending her Microsoft word of the script and she had to download Microsoft word. You know that Am I gonna get started by Microsoft? Word I'm like us right now, Gary no. We learn Gary gear. You know, I don't, I think, he's I think, he's very happy. I had a magic magical moment. What I believe to be raised. A younger brother Gregg has very much at very accurate he's about eight or nine years, older than ham and their mom. Wonderful woman, Anita was you know, was very, were a great mom, also was work issues. Single mom says she was really busy. Wasn't his latch key kid tax situation, but it was like carers very responsible anyway, I have is beautiful.

to show the movie, the two of them a night sitting behind them and watched and watched them watch the movie when I knew when I knew they'd, be happy and they were very satisfied because its You know he knows my heart is in the right place and that all I have is admiration for him, and I wasn't coming for many weird angle eyes. I was just trying to take advantage of all this fantastic material yet What movie feel good? That's why? I think the movie feels a little bit like somebody's telling you a story. in a bar like driver to him at the time I was right, rested for murder like a day and then it leads to another thing like wait. What happened in that? All in all, we were the tell the cup so kind of feels like back to me. I keep describing. It is like a perfectly reconstructed memory. You know it's just not most movies, don't feel that way if you invented this doesn't feel invented good, good, yeah, I'm because everything has attached to some colonel truth

Even if we'd movie fighting or whenever we needed to do to keep keep propelled along a little bit, there's always something you can touch on that is is a real thing. What the branded the bloody Cooper pieces my favorite piece of a movie and like four years and sets another thing hate you take the job, Peters Ledge, their Hollywood producer dating strides in at the time. I don't know why. I have no idea. If he's a nice guy or not, but you decide to have an incredible amount of fun with him, but you had to get to ask him right or did you get the heads up, How did you handle that cause? She turns them into a crazy person. think he, I think he's. I think he is quite enjoys not that he's portrayed as this this wild man I reached out to him as a courtesy think I've never met this man.

I should really tell him. You know- and I went, I told him any severity was so sweet what's goin on here, I said sat already read just tell me the just tell me the story: We read, I just didn't you didn't want to sit down. I read a hundred thirty pages of mine. Nonsense is thy. Do that's cut cut to the good stuff nice I cut to the good stuff, and I I was telling him as I had written a sequence. You know he they arrive, set up. His waterbed Without giving too much way, there have cross again and I had written that he's screaming and yelling at them. The entire betimes parading them for their inability to get in done properly and I could see it face changes. I was letting them know that I was I was losing him that he withdrew. He was, he was his mind was drifting and

got all the way to the end and he was very sweetly service in your great artists and I love what you do and I would never never and show you how to make a story, but. What does she look like in? I saw she's beautiful young girls yeah I'll get. There is absolutely no way I would scream at her eyes toward what would you do that while I would transfer like? Ah ok now Do that, that's better I'd, much much better at that is that's. and I realize, like you, got a great note from John. Peters everybody's. Let me go back and fix that Dan as I was leaving his home. He said you each this have to do me a favor. Please get my picture Finally, there are so what is it he said? I will. I will go to a girl, and I wouldn't I would say, excuse me: do you like peanut butter? Sandwiches

I said what did they do? You said they would laugh and it would work and then we'll start talking. You got it. So it's in the phone. While I wonder if that's the works are vision, Later people are languages, probably not. You probably have to go with a peanut butter on rice, cakes, similar to help their version that this casts doubt the whole constructed the cash. Our both fascinated by we have two people have never acted as the lead people. You have to have down most famous actors we have just in. There would like these ended cameos, basically and then a whole bunch of people. I'm like I know that person. I know this path, and they all have these great scenes. I bet that child what was said the child what Harry Harry taxpayers that she's, like mine blowing in this movie it? So it's are these people you just have a file of like I like that person.

I gotta get them in somewhere that cat. How do you over and over again Harry able to find these people pull these like five? Seven minute performance is out of them people I have really thought of in that way. I do have a list. I also keep a list says I'm going along war. Usually I know right away that there's been some one and only person. That was the situation with that part. Where I worked with her on phantom thread. There's a sheet placed the drunk american era that they come and listen. The dress of a right. So I am I had Second, my sights. I got very nervous at a certain point because it was the cove at times and all that she was in New York she's on these coasts. So I knew I had to make a call the herd say: would you risk your life and get on an airplane? This was still when everything was such a great mystery, which you know can end. I'm out here. She said yes, so that was no right

If she had not said yes, I don't know what I would done, but I think what your touching on is that Why? I think it works is that you started Thelma to people you ve never seen before. People and organs is an open book. There lie I'm I'm down for this. If they're gonna be good, there are open to it. I don't If anybody needs, this kind of horse should thing for so long like you guys, the movie stars and to put them on the post on icon, stuff, stay no, I think any bonnets is gonna, give give somebody the benefit of the doubt and they deliver and Cooper along deliver. and then right as their stories reaching a kind of peak. You don't know how much is last before something really sort of starts to break it. We introduce a movie. Are in a movie star playing a movie star, is a terrific entrance in you know, and you and you go with that. You hear Sean's voice before you see him and then you see him and others.

there's something actually the lifts, the movie up to another little space. You think: ok, something's disguise nodded in turn up and nothing's going to happen or there's not just gonna, be one scene Sean. When Sean emerges you you expect something, as you should like. I want to see fireworks a champion And then you had Tom waits to it, and you realize that always we ve got a double charged cannon in now Something is really a foot sampling when having Bradley play a kind of big Hollywood producer, so having big movie stars played a part that can fit the way that the main thrust- the story, which is really two kids. You never seen before. I think it's the only way you can nav to make it work in and yeah you know. I've got a lotta years under my belt, great people that I worked with, or even people that I've audition that weren't right for something that I keep in the back of my mind in a nice little folder than a list of people that I'd love to get back to her, that that can be

in others, so many actors out there and have never had opportunities to do what they really capable of I mean telling you. The list is like so long. It's like any other professions, where, if your great you know you, will you will rise and you will find that stuff? You know what it's like its answer. Like basketball and that's the way you approve, It reminds me of like a really good basketball franchise where Basque, why? These guys that gold state has is doing this right now with the Gulf States really good this year and they built the steamer on ferry. Have these roll these have been, in some cases, guys you're, another teams right, but on this team, because it's this high team, everybody has had a move without the basketball should really smart, like they make sense on that team right, and I think this happens with movies and tv to were

you see like succession right now, Germany strong as somebody who I think has been good and a bunch of things and then on succession. They happen they figured out- and I think that's you know- I think that's one of the enduring susie your career, now that you're tuna decades, you ve over and over again been able to find these people put them in a red spots. I wonder how much that extends to like. In the same situation like you, told him about a golden state like locker room, like everything from from in coaches to you know physical therapy dues and that just because I think that I think of our, but I think when you talking like that, I think of My camera operator, my first assistant camera the people that are right there that are getting really making the foam. If that five is good it's gonna- make make these young actors feel comfortable. There's gonna be a comradery between them, so it's not just the lineup that you're gonna see on the floor every night, The line on behind the scenes is, is critical,

you dont you have no idea how, but he's day as an actor can get completely fact within. The first remains turn and there's somebody in the make up chair who says the wrong thing or makes an ear. Some annoying music. Like start your day off right and the next thing you know, you're, like you and I can recall first a year. It's it's and the scenes and stop the happens is well aware that a fat teens is good Daniel. Then you're gonna win the championship in Red. I love love the soundtrack. I am in a pitcher theory at you tell me if the amount to something I feel like a lot of this The pact are by bands axe singers, who are a little bit out of fashion, where maybe not considered as cool. as they were when they were hitting in the seventies, blood, sweat and tears, the doors Cetera was that do

Thinking about that reduced trying to recapture stuff that was popular at that time. well. No. I was not thinking that there was no now because that's that's too much thinking you guys like lucky enough to get a song that works, for the movie. That idea really is an over used because this, but you know that listen, it's fuckin, seven, these movies, you know, there's no shortage of them that have have hot soundtracks, either it's the same old shit or even if the great songs or a certain point you just control your eyes. Falcon heard this one before you know. and they're usually kind of slit in two for something up like. Why bother John the story just play like that greens clear what but you know revival song, and now they are about to put Vietnam right. Does that we gotta jump forward great, so I think.

You know it's a combination of things that can help tell the story things fit within a sea not clash with the dialogue stuff. It can raise two full blast and, like an end anything? You actually have to ask yourself. I think, have talked about this before like view balls to use data, both life on Mars or upon accordingly, me role. It you you, you have to earn it there Are there not cheap and I don't mean money wise? You know it's like don't. Not do your work and calling. The boy to help, do you work for you, you know, and so can I get irritated with thousand. Do now when the liar I have some takes on this. He shot. I've never told you this one. I think if it's the, if a movie is passed, a certain level quality like above some sort of quality wines,

Any sign that used in that movie like take my beloved book in its spill. The wine is limits now for all other movies issues out, it doesn't get to be used anymore right. It is it's an indelible movie that we watched over and over again the signs are off the table. You don't get to use them again. That set- and I always get mad if it's you know from some movie that I lovers obviously like from a pop culture. Standpoint matters thence of director, ten years later, as good a graph tat were to get at the go hands off they say in mulatto. Is the songs become characters in the movie made its way? kind of disorienting. This see them in another thing. Had an odd sort of my word: they let let me role. It is now off the table. Let's get you anymore, you got yeah You know what out what s happening sometimes is, I think, sometimes it if I can make you feel good if there's some some boy

side stuff for stuff, it's not to popular than turns up and television commercials. You stood a winced at first, then you go well. You know the least that songwriter, whose family skins and cash for their acres- I know how hard is out there, you should account Somebody discovering certain songs and that can always back that always Jos good is heard disposable. You realize how somebody got some cash for that. I'm in palm according to need the cash, but you know there's some other tunes that that hopefully people discover, you're, always on the lookout to you like this, that radio, on I mean he's, got an based. I will say crazy thing about nineteen seventies, once you think you ve heard it all suddenly discover like five songs you like, and never have heard this before. Wife did this come from crazy, would take it about like set movies in the seventies verses like now things that that the last time you around you come to die like azure, even in the middle of making a movie. You so

natively inspired that. Sometimes the idea for the next move, your pop up. You might even start, MR out that how many how many like things are you working on at a given time that might in May we might not even see ninety percent of them, but how many like ideas you messing around with either? as you make it a movie or right after when you have that, let it kind of the creative neuron after finishing movie, when you just want to go the next one like where many projects that's a good, Question I like at the moment, is to two to three two and a half to three. You know and, and and some of those things are. Things that about the table or for a long time, ten fifteen years, And these will go away from them and I used to get nervous about that. I find the back of my life and I realized I well. You know talking about your beloved book. United as night, I wrote that when I was seventeen. I have a short film on seventeen may get for another ten,

is because I wrote draft after drafter various incarnation of it, so I dont be myself up the way that I used to about thinking like. Why can't you finish this is like Sometimes things leap frog over each other and they take that long so we have a sounding board or anything. Do you talk to people about their one person, detect your wife about it, or is it just like all internal? A lot its internal and there is the point I saw bursting at the seams. I can't I need help from drowning out to try call somebody in people that I work with closely. Producer elder my, I try not to bother too much because. I don't know if you have. This is a little like, bother me with a Monday you now Father Father with, bother me with it on a Friday. By time you ve worked through all that yeah, not in your head, like and don't call me a Wednesday either I mean it come to me on Friday

you feel on Mondays, not going to tell you how you're going to be on a Friday? So just and I yeah writing can get lonely and you can you can blink sometimes in that loneliness realise side share this with somebody and really big, no one knowing it might maybe they're anxious to hear what you're doing and they're curious, and I want to know when we're all going to go to work. Then they can come together. They want to schedule their lives, but also don't want to be bored with your bullshit that you're trying to work through you know this is You know them again their collaborators that that you do need to be borne with your bullshit to help help you separate material from Ebay Material is certainly sometimes you start right and stuff, and you can go now rabbit holes and have a couple people my life, so help me sore through that The last time we talked reaction, recommend a movie of your member this Europe more attractive. You out and about how you re the watch, women running or anybody

and you have some of this and in Europe only yet again, and then you made this movie, and I was like woe. Is that was that item on your green, when you were right, This is why is there so much running liquors pizza like they tell us about that, That's weird! I never put that together I great I mean gray at least not consistent, that's nice, on you know running is so cinematic, especially if you have a story that doesn't have the exact peace through special effects. Are you just got teenagers? You know like running running momentum. Running is an action sequence running is, I don't know it ends up also ends. It gives you it's like a body and Clyde feeling. Isn't it particularly to these two people like throwing around for them bang they're trying to outrun something

and there are running the inevitability of what's going on between in that which they can't can't face so the more you run just keep running, maybe won't care. With you, whatever the problem today, is our great amazing. I said that we, shot. I shall just add a kid say: does know this feeling it you have four and euro. This is sixteen right air, eighteen, sixty ticking fifteen I made either. I have a sixteen year old, unfortunate and As you know, you had a point where you really just want to impress your kids. Nobody else matters if it could state that have such a you're such a loser, That shows that there has to date, if what's wrong, I can get a win with them. It's amazing this is probably the first. movie made. No, while that you could actually just take all your kids to write the sooner they think of it

they love it. Particularly sixteen year old, my son. appeared to really love it until he admitted about like two or three months ago. He said you know I dont want. I don't wanna, be I don't wanna sound mean, but the story of this movie actually doesn't make that much site our own is not alone. I mean he likes. He likes domes with stories. He likes, you know Hawkeye. You know I've been watching this there's a story of mobile phones have stories proper stories. This film is pretty. void of a proper story. You know I mean, of course it has won and accumulate to a story, but in any traditional way he finally admitted like he's not you know, is nervous about it, but

I know that was all right. Will you write about when you're hanging out your kids? You right especially during the pandemic, you just watching stuff for us, are you do you wanna go out so did that that get you thinking like wow? Should I just what? If I just made my version of big What is movies like what, if I made a movie like literally geared for the people, I'm in the room with cuz, you haven't really done that this? Does your brain ever go that direction? No not really, but at but again you know what we're sitting around in this. We are already planning to make this film, and I was I had seen this as an opportunity. Listen secretly. are there not they're gonna like it or not, it was. I could cast all of them and their friends because I needed that was the nature of the story. So I was using and abusing the privilege of having my children like youth you're in the movie here in the movie. You ve got those friends back upon her back its good and they ve been a part of this whole process.

my eldest daughter read the script, so she was able to see it from that point of view, but they DE dailies, every night air, my house, so we and the whole from a shot here. with an yet out of the house. So you have to understand: the environment is very collaborative that way. Then you know when the fifteen twenty they're going to watch daily, show up at my house and we're going to project dailies. All the kids are down here, watching them too, so they're eating their eating their back and watching the dailies and they're able to see take after take see what we're doing and if they grew up with for as well so they're watching his work and made a very close to the longer I mean and in their lifespan they ve known alone of all their lives are half their life. You know, so I take that to them. Level, which is that we went into the second lockdown right of Ruth and shooting, and we were editing the movie so they're doing so.

school. I was editing. The movie gathered there, their active participants in the course of this film. That's and were singing evolve, tat very cool yeah. to the point where they were upset. If I take something out name or they make suggestions, I don't know about that, You didn't, let me looks like you saw, it looks like he's memorizing his lines say yeah, your actual actually right could call thereby also attest audience. What, if on school, for your kids, yeah yeah. Reboot Sean wants to be invited, firm and eat any Dallas read it and have the teenagers. How will the owl this year? How does your baby she's five months this week that your first one first one year as crime, recent model, but it only Heather and only is better I'm I'm enjoying- and I was thinking about, was wondering about when you watch that with your kids, specially look if you're watching Hawkeye

Is it changing your attitude about the things that you, like all the things that you wanna do? Maybe in your in your work, I think does change things that you like that you if they like it, you see it through their eyes and you're and you're far more open, probably Ben Ben Ben. You might be going again there's some stuff to pay look at that it did. that I do not like, and I can't find a way How much I love them! I would rather just leave the room This is annoying. I'm watch this nice and acquire Thou brother yeah subterfuges. It's tough! It's bad yeah! It's not good, but it's a little bit like up it's a bit little bit like

I was told once I think my mom was told this when I was a kid I didn't like reading anything but but with comic book Serbs, things below the reading level that I was supposed to be at some teacher said there is, I don't don't ever worry about whatever their watching whenever his reading is as long as these reading and always stuck with me, like don't be the party pooper, don't jump in on this. me no pissing on their parade. Her young, her young, like well, let it let it evolved. Gonna happen yeah. I say that in my house, except for when my daughter watch fifteen seasons of Grey's anatomy and I actually felt like it start to affect her mood if it sucks like a melodramatic, crazy things happening every episode and she actually was like

Way more somber that she usually as we were, that you have to watch that show it's like actually affecting you. Well, how did she get on Greece anatomy? How did she know grace anatomy. There was a pandemic thing: it was it it's a big thing with teenage girls because they were on Amazon Netflix Any just kind of keep go in. There is some sort of crisis, and then she said Did she wouldn't be a doctor, but didn't want to go to med school, so she wanted adjusts. She was like this should just be a shower somebody's, a doctor, but they didn't actually medical training. They just learned everything from grace and address it. That's definitely not a show nobody's baking batch of. But yes she just you know you binge watch the stuff and review pinch watch succession right now, vizors, like twenty eight besides, like you're, probably gonna, be screwed up a little from a social standpoint for a couple days. I would say after that

tat, the carriers are bad, they are yeah yeah I mean at that, but it could completely. You know, you know the movie, the fish that save Pittsburgh right, my guy Yes, I've, a poster I proposed a right now really must have talked about this last time clamour. I went to sea fish that save Pittsburgh as like some of those those g and cut off George, like gave Kaplan have secured, think fast break. Am I think you better pregnant. You get you got your terrible seventies. Basque baboon could choose what gave cabin is often efficient, say Pittsburgh. No, I don't think he's in that one. So ok, fast break is geared cabin and Jean shorts, yes, is asked the boy coach yeah, but Where, then, is the fishes say Pittsburger what were they eat the bag? We'd? That's fabric,

Fish is Doctor J on a terrible basketball team, but they meta a psychic who changes the fortunes of the team. Yes, and it has the great. Song the fish that is a fast break, is now I think it actually. be the most politically incorrect sports movie about them. I haven't seen it since you got about it, but I do remember but look, but talking about how do these things effect as well. They do affect us, you know, especially if you know if I want to go, get Jean shorts like far ahead think about bad news bears Tanner the abrasive racist shortstop was likely to halt hero the bid seven days he was. He was confident, but there's futures about theatre, this kid what's gonna happen again. No one wants to be Lupus people on how to be the worst character thing. What what media consuming these days when you watch it has now now basically do impress for this move

you haven't start another movie at and do you go and do you just are watching stuff like? What's your process frontier between them? I don't feel I'm between movies Jack? I don't have that real, I'm still sort of pushing it up in the world still gonna finish some technical stuff here and there to get it up for Tom Video release. Eventually I made the time without question to watch get back. Jackson. I was gonna, get you watched it. Let's talk ass, lady. Let's talk wouldn't tell us what he thought. Well, I'm I mean I've I felt firmly in the camp it if it had been eighteen hours. I'll, be perfectly happy, that's right, but that I said I was so frustrated about three and a half hours in like when will I get to hear get back, how much longer do I have to wait to see them struggled through the song and it was

Really he really put you in the room because you went through all these emotions I can't wait any longer, I'm going fucking bad, you know and that when you have sleep when he does when it gets to the rooftops. Transfer is like the floodgates open. and it was so thrilling, but the overriding hence a melancholy from the whole thing so strong. I suppose it goes back to. I think we all we probably we feel like they had to be one thing like if your parents divorce like what the one thing that happened. Others there's something happen, and now One thing happened: a million tiny little things happen, and it happened in slow motion. Don't happen over the course of time, and so it was like. Divorce, a divorce happening from your eyes, it was so slow motion and melancholy, but it just verifies that their endlessly cool.

Endlessly the most fucking brilliant guys that ever gotten a room together, and I had never heard that go and see how was the illegitimate possible election child of Orson Welles that was really interesting to, that I learned that, after what is not crazy, stuff aid hardened to think that that's not true I'll get his face. Yeah yeah- looks like a little little little. Many me little arson, but I love here in his big plans to go out to Libya and how is that was classic director, but there are other stuff right like yeah right. But what are we go light some shit on fire and you gotta play and I will go an orphan if not what the real sick ones now the real sick. Once you know, that was great the biggest thing had changed for me in wheat? Shouted out both thought about this in our pockets, I'll make a quick for the bulgarian think genetic Jessica.

you know. I said this feeling that Lenin Macartney really turned on each other, and I think a lot of that had to do with the interviews that especially Lenin gave in the seventies that made it seem like they were in such a bad spot. But I watch this that I just I saw two guys that were come, we re connected, create away, who really loved each other, and maybe there these other factors that undermining that, but ultimately they really loved playing playing other people. People see it that way, necessarily, but that's how I saw it. I saw guys were really connected to the point that George actually Cotta had you know he had self confidence issues about it. Can he there is no way to break into the these two guys thou disliked, then what it? How did you see it? I saw a similar thing, but I also saw that do this marriage, dissolving and Paul being the one who is really trying to keep it to China say that yonder trying to save it and that there were moments of of John Lennon just

backing out checking out in a kind of of a kind of self imposed, ambivalent site? I, because that would like was surprise him. Loans are moments would happen when they would connect, and you just saw the whole place light up like. Oh you can't you can't get away from this when you guys connect to each other, but it was a classic bring to light were very british way. to deal with things too, like no one's really saying another sang and under their breath the first situation there, any shit decided then sounded in here. No one really knows what are we making movie. Are we making a record? There's no action. I wished it actually gone back a little bit more to what was touched on. The beginning is missing that father figure, the Brian Epstein, figure that was so interesting and Polly S visit. You know like what we ve been a bit. You know rudderless whatever it is, but it's a class For example, many creative situation found herself in July. You you

is a lot of people chatting around- and we realise, like it's like this fog, if you can just snap out of and you get a change of scenery. Something else interesting can happen like the second they get over the apple you feel them all come alive again. The like, I don't know it must, but must have been, must be rough for them. At that point,. it's the headlines around the corner. They can't last forever. Thank God, I didn't. You know I don't know em but no one really wants to Paul. Normally now wants to break. But everybody does and you feel it. I don't know it was magical magical. I hope. There's another eighteen hours release, I'm go back. and here you guys talking about I join a year. I will send it to. You have to go, this movie relied yet it we're getting. Where you have to go to a movie was fantastic. We love that shots in it twice

but to say it twice, Smiley roared. I look forward to seeing the reactions while the people it's only in my company, like four theatres right now at the moon- it's only a fourth eaters, but it's gonna sneak privy this weekend weekend and then the next weekend. Those gonna come out a lot more yours on Christmas day, but you know board trying to try to get this money to play in theatres back in the old days, used to have a movie replant fitter for a year right a year like exorcise plate to feed his three year in L, a fascist, how did it so we're trying to emulate a little bit of that just like play better theatres for a longer period of time, avoid it on your phone for as long as we can just tried. Take it back to a bit of it. Oh yeah Sean you, you ask him about that about just what it's like to really the movie in the marble air. That's a movie like this that your China slow slow burn. It's it's! Alright,

heart than you do. We haven't seen a lot of people pull that off. It's it's. It's a super hard nosed, not as hard as you think. It just requires a patient's stamina and just keep reminding people that is there and just just China You know feeding the beast in two guiding people towards where it is, and the funny thing is not. Not wildly inventive. It's just hasn't been done in about five years. Suddenly, it's like oh shit, that's right! Member those days release movie in the search for Chauncey. At sobbing right now, this well everything he I'm, I'm glad you're doing it. That way. I received it. You know you're, we do the shown on the network of the relaunch of us where we talk about one movie, that we love and we were taught me to go back to the future last year. I think back to the future is the number one movie at the box, often like November, and then again in, like March, How did this happen? How crazy that is and how we gonna miss that, but you should you should,

back in doing so. The relaunch both movie, the away where we're forcing you to come back like a force on pan. every member of our food binary watch was registered. Tonnage is badly until the good luck with good luck, with everything up with them, allow congrats on the movie we loved it? You did it again. I love talking you guys. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thanks pal, that's it for the podcast thanks thanks to Thomas Anderson, thanks to shun fantasy thanks to Peter trigger thanks to car Creighton, who produce this podcast I'll I'll, be back here on Sunday night opiates watch music. backs the film Mr Saturday night threat by Jan MACHO, Isabel Bonn, HBO Max and HBO right now,

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